The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 452 (Best of 10/12/26-10/16/26)

Episode Date: October 18, 2026

The weekly round-up of the best moments from DZ's season 460 (10/12/26-10/16/26)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Lisa, tell them about our new show. We have a new podcast. It's called Don't Lie to Me. I'm Lexi Youanu. We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart.

And I'm Lisa Di Giulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business. Listen on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If anyone wanted to commit a murder, up here would be the greatest place in the world to hide the body.

But someone will find it. He acted friendly. He talked friendly. He sounded friendly. They all knew that I did the scary boogie stuff, and I said, maybe she'll find out where this girl is. I saw him violent. Backhanded a bow! Listen to the Devil's Quarry Season 2 in the Bone Valley Feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Bloomberg's Big Take podcast has everything you need to know about the most expensive midterms in U.S. history, like the money being spent to control the Senate. Everyone has been waiting to see how Trump will spend his big war chest. He was sitting on nearly half a billion dollars. How candidates are rewriting their party's playbooks and how big business is throwing its money into the ring.

There's obviously the AI super PACs, which are two sides there. So they're spending sometimes on different sides of races, sometimes on the same side of races. Listen to the big take on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. I'm Max Chaffkin. We are both journalists at Bloomberg Businessweek. And our podcast, everybody's business, finds the meaning behind the numbers. Things like, why is ice cream so expensive right now?

Is Polly Market the new stock market? And Max, will we ever retire? Because decoding the money. power and influence and moves the world is everybody's business listen to everybody's business on the IHeart radio app

Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts On recent episodes of the Questlove show I chatted with Jojo about her music and Wallo 267 about his story and everything in between Don't invite me to karaoke

I'm going to make it weird someone's going to try to sing leave get out or too little too late or baby it's you and I'm going to be like Okay cool check out my conversation with Jojo Wolo 267 and more on the Questlove

show. Listen to the Questlove show on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Peace. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop, infotainment, laugh stravaganza. Uh, yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Oh my God. I wasn't prepared for this. Something for my searcher. Can I go look at it right now? Let's go. Let's check. Let's dive deep. So I use a search engine called Kagi.

It's a paid search engine. Let's see if it has my search engine. It's a paid search engine. Yeah, it's a paid search. It's like a hundred bucks a year. And it doesn't track it. It has no ads. Oh, wow.

And it has a lot of features that Google doesn't have. For instance, you can tell it to exclude certain sources if you're like, I don't ever want to hear from this again. Right. And it'll remember that? It'll remember that, yeah. I hope for a fucking hundred bucks. It also has, if you got to use AI, it has an AI assistant that doesn't feed any of the models,

any of your data and stuff like that. It's a good site. You must. And it's not fucking loading my stuff. Anything you've been curious about of late, Godzilla video game. Uh, God's travel. I've been, um, you know, I've been spending a lot of time shopping for, uh, vintage ceramic dishware.

I got really, I got really into, okay, so this will, this will connect to who I am, because after I became single and I was decorating my place for the very first time. And I was like, I don't like the dishes. I don't like the dishes that I've had for so many years. I want to pick out new dishes. And I got really into, uh, Heath ceramics, which is like, I have. heritage ceramics from California. I'm like, I live in L.A.

It's mid-century modern. I'm going to get the dishes. And I just went so deep on like, okay, like this is the pattern. This pattern was created in 1945 by Edith Heath. And it's coming this many glazes. And sometimes I'm like, so I'm like, okay, I need more dessert bowls, but they discontinued the obsidian glaze. Can I find anybody on the secondhand sites who's selling dessert bowls and obsidian? Because that'll go good with my moonstone.

And one of the first things I did was I bought some of the plates from them. They had an annual edition that came in like green. And I was like, oh, that's nice. I'll get green plates. And then afterwards I was so, I was like, I shouldn't have got green. That was so stupid. Looks like it's from the 70s. What was it?

I was really like feeling so much of these plates and so much about my personality. Yeah, I get that too. Like, what was it like when you looked at your old plates and you're like, man, fuck these plates. What was it about them? It just were like, I'm not this person anymore. I mean, some of the plays. had been literally I had since before me and my ex were together for 15 years and I had some of those plates

from like before we met we were using the same plates that I like my parents had got me in college they weren't bad but I was just like this I didn't make a choice of this stuff yeah yeah and then everything else in the house like most of the dish wearing stuff was stuff she had picked out because she's an artist she had a great taste yeah you know just she wanted to do that I like never made any those decisions and and I felt like I don't know who I am I don't know what my own style.

Am I a moonstone? I don't know what my... I'm a obsidian glaze. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. And, you know, like, she moved out, we're still very close. And so I know the dishes she bought.

She bought Corral. That's the very thin place. They're, like, made a glass. Dirty. Yeah. And I was like, no, that's not me. I need stoneware. There you go.

I need heavy clay. And I just got really deep into it. That's going to last. Now, I don't get their mugs. I get a Hassami porcelain mugs. You know, Hasami porcelain. No. Japanese.

I know Hassami means scissors. Oh, it means scissors. Well, there's a wonderful Japanese pottery maker called Hassami that makes like mugs that are sort of like all very pleasingly the same size and they stack and stuff and they're sort of rough. So I'm, so I've gotten really into ceramics.

I like your ceramics there. Bring some intentionality into that part of your life. I'm a big believer if you really dive deep into what you like. If you ask yourself about any part of your life, right? We do it a lot with music or movies as guys, but we do it more rarely with stuff in our house. But if you go like, what kind of furniture do I like, do I want it to be comfy?

Do I want it to look good? Do I want it or anything like that? If you start thinking about that and really figure out what you like, you will learn things about yourself. Yeah, yeah, more defined as a person. And it's really fun. Yeah. To just like, okay, I want, what, when I pick up a dish, like, what do I value?

Yeah. What feels good to me? No, I went through the exact same thing after the fire because you're, you literally started over with stuff. And I'm like, well, now, because I had the same thing. I had plates from fucking college. And I was like, well, now I'm starting over. And like one of the first things I bought were like these like really like these Japanese

glass drinking glasses that are like in ramen shops. Like they're not expensive. But for me, they're very specific like texture and I've sense memory like with these cups that I was like. Then I very much learned. I'm like for me, my style is like sort of going into my own personal history and finding things that resonate with that. you know, we learn. Yeah, that's great.

And then every time you touch it, you feel like you're getting in touch with a piece of yourself. Exactly. If someone says, oh, I like these, you have something nice to say about it, connects you.

Right. Before I'd be like, I don't know, I got in college or some shit. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Thanks. I don't know. Don't look at me. What is something, Jody, that you think is underrated? Live radio.

And I know we're saying this as real podcast people. But I'll put it this radio. I've been watching, as I'm sure you have to, a kind of reembrace of a lot of old media, right? Like, there's records are coming back. Going to the movies is coming back. People are, you know, reading a little bit again as well. And I feel like the final frontier is live radio. Like, is live radio actually going to come back and get reembraced? And as certainly in my world, it has. And I got my start in live radio, you know, and I'm doing some stuff with WMIC

later this fall. But like, I recently bought an alarm clock radio again. And I wake up to just like, whatever Z-100 wants to play me at that moment. Like just straight up FM radio. FM radio, alarm clock radio. My daughter has one, my daughter has one too. You know, some days it's just like, Phil Collins, here you go. This is going to happen to you right when you wake up. It's great.

My daughter did walk in the other day and she was like, it's just a lot of like celebrity gossip and ads. And I'm like, yeah, well, welcome to. For every once in a while you get a random song. But I don't know. I mean, just, you know, I've kind of fallen back in love with the magic of live radio, but more importantly, I'm very curious to see, as I said, if it will kind of like be re-embraced in some way in the way that a lot of old sort of top-out technology.

It's good for small talk when you're listening to the radio and you just know shit that's happening. Like, you know, you're just kind of in the same bath with everybody. Yeah. Or at least. If in Hathaway's co-stars had listened to the library, they would know who Odeo. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Probably listening to some weird obscure pot. podcast or something. Yeah, shout out to live radio. There is something, something nice about it. The ads are like so bad that they can often be entertaining sometimes. Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, radio was like definitely the way I even wanted to got interested in podcasting

because I loved the radio as a kid. Like I, like especially growing up in LA, like Big Boy was such a huge, like presence that I was like, oh, you can be like witty and that's a job that isn't necessarily. Like you're a comedian or an actor or something. It's like if you just have like the gift of being able to have good conversation and keep people engaged, like that's a whole career. Yeah, I love, I love the idea of radio being like a, being resurgent. But I guess it's like it's, I wonder if like the types of people you hear will change

because we're still kind of have like that very polished radio type vibe. Yeah. That's sort of like predominant like on adult contemporary radio stations and things like this. When are we going to start getting that like disinterested, Gen Z kind of tone, like on the air, but still like engaging. For guys who talk like this. I hope not, man, because the bottom falls out.

I got three kids in college. But even more so, I mean, I do think, like, you know, radio, like a lot of things has gotten like very sort of, there's a whole programmatic side to it and there's a sort of regression to the middle and it all sort of sounds the same. And I do wonder if part of the things that people are seeking out is something that's a little rougher around the edges and a little, you know, whether the kind of like free,

free-form radio that I grew up loving, the like, I can only hear these two songs back to back because a real human being decided for whatever reason to sway them back to back, as opposed to some algorithm. I wonder if that's going to come back. That's like the even next level. But, you know, I do think like, yeah, there's a lot of radio stations you listen to right now and they are, for all intense and purposes, your Spotify algorithm, right? Some machine has decided that this is the sequence of songs. But then there's other radio where you're like, oh, I'm actually connecting with a real human being in real time here, which I think is a thing that people, I'm being wishful here, but the thing that I think people are starting to crave more and more.

Yeah, there's a radio station that has that like the SoCal sound is kind of like this, you know, up and come. It's been around, but it's like really getting popular because like Matt Pinfield and like Nick Harcourt, these other like people from like L.A. radio or like MTV have their shows. And like they're the ones, you know, creating their playlists. And it really does have that feeling like, especially like for as a millennial, like when you hear Matt Pinfield be like, oh, are you going to like this next band?

And I'm like, yeah, all right, Matt Pinfield. Like, let me know about this. If you say so, Matt Pinfield. Yeah, and he knows this shit. So it's like, I definitely appreciate that part too. It feels like intentional. We're like, well, this person's just going to take me through some records that feel good today.

And yeah, I enjoy that. I was dialed. Like, there was a point in my childhood where I was like so dialed in that like there was a, like, the one station that played rap music at all in Dayton, Ohio when I was like, you know, 10 or 11, they like got taken over by a different radio station. And so as a form of protest, they played it's so hard to say goodbye to yesterday over and over for 24 hours in a row. And like, I remember being like, that's so badass.

Like listening to it over and over again. Hour six. It actually like gets better as you keep listening to it. Yeah. I was like up on the local radio gossip, you know? Yeah. So. Shout out to Z93, which I do when I check in with people from Dayton.

I'm like, you guys still listen to Z93? They're like, nope. But it's all QAnon. It's Q&ONN stuff. What is Katie something that you think is overrated? Well, I don't want to like, I did see in the doc we're maybe going to talk about the Keller Clarkson thing. No, no, we talked about it yesterday. So let ignore that.

Let it rip. Okay, okay. I mean, like, I was going to say that, like, when you go into a store and they have, like, the most amazing bird thing and it dances for you. I think that whole, like, the artisanal store when they're like, this is not just a store, but it's an experience. I don't know that I want an experience when I go to a store personally. like I just want to I want to get in get my birds and get out return to base mission complete

right like if I go in there and they're like I'm gonna blow your mind sure with this bird you're like you better be with the discount you're gonna hit me with yeah it's like I need I can't I can't this can't happen every time I go shopping I can't like like for there's a store that I have seen where it's like

this like curiosity stores. I hate curiosity stores because they're always like, oh, here's like a death mask of someone from the 1700s. Aren't you curious? And it's like, no,

I want bread and ice cream. You dick. Well, then they go, well, why'd you come in here? Why'd you come to the curiosity store? This is the curious. Those are the things I'm curious about. Bread and ice cream.

Do you have them? I'm curious. I don't. don't want, like I went in there because I thought, oh, I'm curious. And there was a like dead chihuahua head mounted to the wall. It's like, guys, what is it? I don't want to buy that. What is a curiosity store?

What are we talking about here? Because you just described thinking like, and there's dead animals on the wall. I mean, this, the store like describes itself as like, you know, like antiques. items and I guess it's an antique Chihuahua head with like oddities or something oddities yeah I would say they're not gonna have milk in there though 10 times out of 10 usually you know I mean I'm just saying that like I could also go for a book or an iPhone I don't know I don't want I don't want to like go into a store and then

like some like suddenly a life-size human puppet descends from the ceiling and start dancing. That's not like, that's not cool. So I don't know what, I don't know if you guys sided with Kelly Clarkson or not, but I don't, I don't like any of, I don't think that we should have any, I don't think we should have any of that ever. None of that. I don't, I know, I don't side with Kelly Clarkson because I don't, I can't identify with the injury that she's claiming she suffered, which I'm, I'm pretty sure is still, I wanted to buy a thing that wasn't for sale and they said no. or I wanted to buy a thing that wasn't for sale and they were rude to me about it. I'm still like, okay.

It is a cool bird though. Did you see the bird? Yeah. I get it. Made by some artisanal German clockmaker person and they had another one they could offer her. I heard that was identical. Like it's weird because now there's more details coming up.

Well, then we all offered her an alternative one. Yeah. And that's what I'm like, this is so fucking like, fuck all this. She's in there complaining because they wouldn't sell her a thing for 15 grand. I don't fucking care. This is also my complaint with museums, too. I walk in there. I'm like, give me that for $30. They're like, no, we have a gift shot.

I'm like, no, I want that one. Give me that one on the wall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. Give me that one. Yeah. Give me that now. It's not for sale. I said now. I'm going to tweet about it. And I'll have one lonely person come outside with an I stand with Kelly Clarkson's

inside in the rain. Do you want that? I don't know. I have a feeling everybody is wrong. Or like both sides are kind of wrong in this one. I just feel like it's weird and annoying. I'm just going to side with a, I'm just going to side with a wage worker over a millionaire, 10 times out of 10.

I don't care. Like there's nothing they can do to hurt you unless they're being like actually like fucked up and discriminatory. Yeah, I think that's right. There's also something disgusting about taking a bird automaton, a bird automaton and owning it privately, I find that weird. Like, it's,

like when it's out in public. It is meant to be shared with the world, right? Right. Like, it's like when it's out in public and then they're like, here's our delightful little mechanical bird, watch it. And then the children clap. It's like, okay, sure, that's delightful. Or like at a museum.

When Kelly Clarkson is like, I have a bird in my house. It's weird. Yeah, yeah. And I don't, you know, So, you know. We also found it weird how you kept inquiring if buying it would allow you to have its soul as well. We thought that was a weird line of questioning.

Yeah. It's not an Ursula, a little mermaid situation. Can you do this to a human body? She kept screaming. I was like something idea. Katie, to your point of like having to take this like bird for people's public enjoyment and taking it for yourself and making it private, like she's in the store and she sees all the kids. getting all the joy from it and kind of looking around like, what the fuck they like this bird?

No, no, no. I'd like to buy this. Yeah, yeah. Enough of that. I need to have this. But I like joy. Yeah. First, you hunch over the child and try and inhale the joy from his face.

But when that doesn't work, you have to acquire the joymaker. Yeah. The store's like, all right, Ms. Clarkson, we didn't want to tell the actual story. You were sniffing the kids' heads in there. And you tried to make it about the bird. We asked you to leave and you're just making our customers uncomfortable. And you said, fine, I'll take the Joymaker. Give me that.

And then you said, fine, I guess no one's taking, getting these tickets to Hollywood. And he pulled out an old American Idol prop. All right. Well, we're going to take a quick break and we're going to come back and we're going to talk about a lot of fun stuff happening. We're going to catch Katie up real quick on the state of things in the United States. Our barbaric republic. I'm so excited. It'll be really fun. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it.

Hello. My gosh. Watch all your favorite podcasts from start to finish, right inside the free IHard radio app. Gets the blood going up. Catch every laugh and eye roll on shows like the Tom Green Farmcast and park the bus. Now with full video. We're building a ramp for Tony Hawk.

It's the same hosts and the same chemistry with all the hilarious moments you've been missing. Right on your screen. Cheers. Open the free IHare Radio app. Search video podcasts and tap watch. Lisa, we should tell them about our new show. Oh my God, Lexi. We have a new podcast.

It's called Don't Lie to Me. I'm Lexi Youanu. We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. And I'm Lisa Di Giulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. I'm not going to get anyone fighting.

That is wild. I learned that about you today. Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business. And I've always got something to say. If men were just honest about this, there would be so much more peace in the world. We're going to talk about dating, relationships,

beauty, getting older, and a little wiser. We're best friends, but we don't always agree. Because you told us how accommodating you are. Obviously, I would do what I think I could do to fight the fight, but there's only so much fight I can fight. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me.

Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Liar. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I don't really care. The WNBA playoffs are here,

and while the games will be spread across seven different channels and streaming services, you only need one podcast to keep up to date on all the action. Good Game with Sarah Spain is the only daily podcast for all your WNBA needs. Be the smartest fan at the sports bar by learning all the W stories, stakes, stats, and stars,

and hear from top players and coaches about their pregame routines, the pressure of playoff basketball, and the moments that define legacies. Can we actually compete for a championship? And I think the answer is yes. You know, the best part of all stuff, is parents have come up to me.

Thank you. You helped my relationship with my daughter so much. It goes a lot further than you would think. Every time you underestimate a Yukon player it comes at your own peril. You know, when you talk about women's sports, it's like prego spaghetti sauce. It's in there.

You know that commercial? Like, it's in there. You name it. It's in there. Want to know what's really going on in the WNBA? We got you. Listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain

on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. For more than a century, Miss America sold the country a fantasy. Well, all you ready, ladies? Okay, here we go. But over the past decade, the crown's been slipping.

They said, goodbye to swimsuits. Now, hello to lawsuits. I'm Bridget Armstrong. Last season, we took you inside the world of America's next top model. Now I'm back with season two of this podcast, Curse of Miss America, investigating the rise, fall, and uncertain future of one of America's most iconic institutions. The Miss America pageant. I never received scholarship money to pay for my student loans.

He looks and he goes, you don't look like you. suffered an eating disorder. It's a great, but looks too ethnic. It's a story the Miss America organization really doesn't want us to tell. An exploitation of our Miss America's is treated by the Miss America organization as an attack on Miss America itself.

Listen to the curse of Miss America on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Every case has a story. Every victim has a voice, but will it be a story? heard. I'm Nancy Grace on crime stories. We go beyond headlines to examine evidence, challenge the story we're fed, and pursue justice for victims and their families. Please join us at Crime Stories with

Nancy Grace on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you find your podcasts. Hope you join us. I'll see you there, friend. And we're back. I just want to check in with the midterms because we're about four, three, two-ish weeks out, what, four week, three weeks out. Yeah. First of all, just quick stuff, just to get people up on things. Ohio was reporting, like, in their early in-person voting, numbers has drawn nearly four times as many voters as it did at the same point in the Joe Byron midterms. So, okay, people are out there.

They realize there's a Senate race. The Senate math definitely matters in that state. In Texas, though, Texas somehow, they have. a little bit of a, quote, glitch that resulted in a failure to send out 600,000 ballots. This is from the Guardian, quote, Texas election officials are struggling to process a massive backlog of nearly 600,000 voter registration applications after a major state computer system failure, just days before early voting is set to open on Monday. The disruption has raised serious concerns about the state's voter registration system,

with voting rights organizations accusing Texas officials of failing to ensure that eligible voters could properly register. The problem originated from a software error involving the Texas Department of Safety according to a lawsuit that was filed last week. The glitch affected a website used for driver's license applications that was also designed

to allow Texans to register to vote. Guess what happened? The lawsuit alleges between October 2025 and February 26, residents who selected yes, when asked whether they wanted to register to vote, were given receipts confirmed

their selections. However, their registration information was never actually recorded. Yeah. So it was just a box that did nothing, basically. Yeah, it was a computer glitch. You know, I don't know. It's a very convenient computer glitch

when you have another, like the most money being poured into a Senate race in this Paxton, Tala Rico Senate race. And now, yeah, computer glitch and like 600,000 people aren't going to get their ballots. Yeah. or going to have to really go the extra mile to make sure they are registered. So whether they're voting in person or not, that's just another fucking hoop to jump through.

So if you live in Texas, you may need to check in on that if you're interested in voting. You know, that might be a thing worth looking to. I just voted in Georgia. It was easy. Wait, did I mention it on top? Do you got the sticker mentioning twice? Do they have a good sticker? Well, yeah, I voted twice.

Oh, yeah, we do. We have the peach, which I love. Oh, that's nice. Ours are fucking so busted and normal. Do you guys want to? We can fill out mine on air right now. Oh, yeah, yeah. I got mine right here at the desk.

Our's straight down. Yeah, our down the bottom. I did a little canvassing for old Nithia Rahman. Their other candidates are available in Los Angeles. And I did get to talk to a, I had a lengthy conversation with a Spencer Pratt supporter. Oh, wow. Oh, wow.

Oh, that must have been fun. What part of town are you? Wild. Echo Park. Oh, wow. It was a chiropractor. Oh, wow. A chiropractor.

Yeah. 10 out of 10 doctors who go, I'm a doctor and go, you a chiropractor, bro. Yeah. He struck me as like a, like by way of RFK, like crank. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. How old is he? Old white guy? I mean, there's so many levels.

70s? Moderate, old. How red and how red in the face was he? Yeah. He was, it was so hot out. You know, I don't know if he got more red in the face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What did he say?

Like, when he said, because I mean, I remember when, like, when, you know, I was canvassing a lot, you'd go to the, you'd go to a door of someone who clearly wasn't with what you were talking about. Yeah. Did he give you the old? But was he sarcastic? Or would he go, just want to let you know, I'll never vote for Nithia? And then he went into a monologue.

What kind of interaction was it? He started with like, well, because I think it was some version of like, hey, you know, do you know about Nithia Raman? And it was like, I know she stole the election from Spencer Pratt. Oh, thank. Oh, so he's real, low info. Yeah. It was rough. Yeah.

It was that, that part was really rough. And then, listen, shout out to everyone volunteering for any, honestly, political campaign, the more the better, even if, well, no one's actually volunteering for any of these horrible folks. However, if it's for Hakeem Jeffries. The person with me was a very nice guy who I may, I would maybe also categorized in somewhat of the low info sort of guy. Because he was like, let's talk to him.

Let's get into it. And I was just like, it was one of those things I was like, I don't know, man. I'm just positive that this is not going to be a good use of our time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like we could be knocking on doors and actually converting people that might be on the fence rather than a guy who's like, I subscribe to Spencer's YouTube channel. It was all those boats come in. That part was rough. Again, everyone's, not everyone.

One of the parties in the story is not very nice, but the other person. Yeah. Well, and that's all part of your, you know, people's political evolution. Get out there. Or not. Learn what you like. Learn what you don't like. And then you figure it out.

Direction, you know, things are moving in directions, I guess. Yeah. But this was wildest conversation I've had in Los Angeles, I will say. Wow. Which is, that that speaks a little bit to my bubble, I suppose. Yeah. I remember. I was like, this shit is crazy.

When I was at, like, actually on a different planet. When I was at Condi Nast, I went to, like, one of the early Trump rallies in Orange County in 2016. And no, 2015. And that's when I was like, oh. Yeah. You all are talking like, it's the 1950s. And yeah.

you're really, and at the time I was naive enough to be like, he's got too many negatives against him for him to win a national election. I was very much, you know what? I was in my blue blay. Yeah, well, I was producing like content and stuff. And I wanted to go because like we should go,

like we need to put cameras like, we need to put microphones in people's faces. Yeah. Anyway, pretty freaky shit. All right. Yeah. Also, I just want to point out on the thing or on the thing. when we're talking about like the turnout and things like that,

you know, it's quadruple what Joe Biden, what the turnout was for Joe Biden in 2022. He obviously still in a midterm. Yeah, still in a midterm. Still in midterm, which is low. Lower obviously that it's always low. But this was also a midterms where people were very much talking about inflation and Joe Biden's role in it,

even though it's his inability to come back corporate greed. But yeah, we'll call it that. Yeah. And at the time, I just want to point at some polling that was happening at the time, Biden had about 29% approval in those midterms on the topic of inflation. Trump is currently at 22% approval. He's even lower than Joe Byron was when he lost the house. So look, you know, I think we're talking about this is the 7% of humanity that's like, I fucking love Donald Trump. 7%.

Like a third of those people are like the inflation thing that was kind of bad. Yeah, it's fucking, I mean, because it's hard to ignore because you can't look at your bank account and pretend the numbers you're seeing aren't the numbers that you're fucking seeing. And I think that's where the rubber meets the road. Yeah, and also like there was another poll that came out

that was saying that like three and 10 voters who are like voting against Republicans want total upheaval of our governance system. Like that's like that's a new bracket of people that are so outraged over the status quo that they're like, no, I'm not, I want some change. Yes, I want a total upheaval. Yeah. Yeah. And those numbers are only going to grow as long as you have, you know, the politicians in office that will just hide behind terms like inflation because I think that's a thing.

People would rather see a Joe Biden at that time be like, no, this is fucking corporate greed, man. Like we got to fucking do something about it. Like we got to stop calling this inflation. If he was even out there articulating something like that, that probably could have helped. But again, Keyetians don't just have to be for political figures. Yes. Certainly. Certainly not.

That's me quoting alternate universe Joe Biden. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The one's like they don't want to find out. You know what I mean? They don't want to find out. Yeah. So let's move on to the state of Texas. I guess stay in the state of Texas.

We were just talking about their ballot registration system. But Texas's SB 12, Senate Bill 12, is one of those laws that was passed last year. That is like the Florida, don't say gay bill. It's a bill disguised as a way for parents to be in control about what their children are learning in our public schools. When really, it's just to completely censor subjects like DEI, racial equity, and anything related to like sexuality or gender identity, LGBTQ plus topics, anything like that. It's like, don't bring it into the, don't even bring it into the consciousness of these. kids. The bill, obviously just another step towards the Project 2025 fascistic takeover of education to like create mindless students who will be taught that there are only two genders,

Coke or Pepsi. And this has nothing to do with parental rights. The law, again, it's so far reaching in sort of it's like nebulous definitions to just sort of like criminalize anything of like that's outside of like cis het culture. Right. That it's end. the high school production of Little Shop of Horrors because a girl was cast as the male lead as Seymour. They first tried to recast

her. Which by the way, Seymour not exactly like peak masculinity or anything like that, you know. And also, I mean, sorry to butt in here about this, but like throughout the history of theater.

Yeah. Like women have played like Peter Pan, but most of all men have played women in theater. That's where drag even. Yeah, think about Shakespeare. Like women weren't on stage. The term drag dressed as girls comes from from Shakespeare theater. And so it's like, but these people don't care about that obviously. No, no, no.

This is merely because they're like girl dressed as not girl. Yeah. Then this is a crime. This is, I just want to share a clip of like the local news broadcast of like of them talking about it because like it's just it's just so stupid to even hear people talking out loud about how this is a problem. It got to me. We're going to hear from the girl Anna Motta who is like the high school student who got cast in the role of Seymour who then had the role taken away because again she's a girl playing a boy in a play. The traditionally male lead in Little Shop of Horrors. After I found out I got the role I would direct to school and I was.

listen to just the soundtrack and to work and just the soundtrack. But five days later, she was told she wouldn't be allowed to play the part. She says the district wanted to replace her with a male student and have her share the role of the female lead. She declined. It wasn't the role I was given. It wasn't the role I earned. And I know that if I earned something, then I want to carry out and I want to do that.

But if I don't, then I don't. Butta says she had a problem with the district's reasoning. She'd already played three male characters before at the same screen. She says district official told her it was different this time because it was a romantic role. Why? She fell in love with a fucking plant? Because, I will say when you first brought this story up, I did think that there was a chance. It was because a male was Audrey too.

Yeah. No, I mean, and I am actually surprised that it's caused as much of an uproar as it has because typically it would be like a male and like female drag. Right. But yeah, this is, I mean, to be quite honest with you, like I went to high school in Georgia. I mean, it's not that much different than Texas. Of course, there's these insane laws in place now.

But like, even when I was in high school, like, you know, there was shit like this. Like I remember my principal called me when I was in like 10th or 9th or 10th grade called me to tell me I couldn't come to homecoming because, you know, I was going to wear a dress. And he said, well, you can't wear a dress to homecoming. You have to wear like a suit. And I was like, well, I'm not going to do that. And so he was like, well, you can't come. And I feel like that's just kind of like a standard kind of practice in the schools in the South. Yeah, and then now. Yeah. And now they have a law where they can say, okay, well, this is the law that backs us up.

And it's just absolutely stupid. That's what the school district is kind of doing with. like, look, we need to just need to be in compliance with the state law. That's what this is about to try and again pass the buck. But at the end of the day, you're keeping a child from engaging with like an art form that they're clearly very passionate about. She's talking about she's going to work. She's listening to the soundtrack. She's doing everything she should be doing. And you're going to just fucking deny her this opportunity because of this bullshit law. And it's a tradition of the art form is doing drag. Like, how. Like, how many times have you, I've seen Peter Pan, somebody, I don't know if I've ever seen

somebody play Peter Pan that wasn't a girl or a woman, like on stage. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I went to high school in California, so this happened and it wasn't that big of a deal where she also mentions, and she's been doing, like, she's been interviewed a lot of times by local news because it's like a big story there. And she said, too, you know, like a lot of the times, there aren't a lot of guys who are in theater. And there's a lot of roles.

Because they're not as interested in it. They're doing sports. Yeah. And so. And they get bullied for it. And we just, we step in and we just play a role because it's theater. That's true. It's a performance.

Yes. Again, the legal argument, like you're saying, it's about SB 12. When the wording there, it's about prohibiting sexually oriented performance on public property in the presence of anyone under 18. And I guess that's what they're trying to say is because Seymour is in love with the plant. The female plant. Yeah. Like any suggestion that something might be not cis, not hetero is. Sexually oriented.

Yeah, that's the part that's like, what the hell are you talking about? Yeah. But she has said in other interviews, she's like, well, you know, like, she may, there may be some, like, legal help coming into because she's like, this feels like a Title IX violation because I'm being denied an opportunity discriminated against based on sex. I'm not doing anything other than I'm playing Seymour in Little Shop of Horrors in a high school play. Yeah. And this really does feel like kind of when you see. like this, the sort of goals of this project 2025 conservative movement show like manifest in the most mundane ways of our day-to-day lives,

which isn't just like they're shutting down this clinic because they're helping people transition or whatever. It's like this girl is playing a boy. It's like this most, it's like stupid ass. And I, it's like comedic almost and stupidity. And I'm not even sure if it was mentioned here, but like I'm not sure if this was even reported by somebody like where they.

reported it to the school or reported it to the school board. Like complaint. Or if it was just, well, the school made this decision and then they had this law to kind of back it up. But it's just, it's just fucking stupid. Yeah. Yeah, right, exactly. Even if they have, like, the fact that they even have a legal argument is whether or not they were saying you need to enforce it, I think is moved. Yeah, because precisely.

Not to get all, like, daily showy, like, oh, they're hypocrites. But, like, if the performance. of a man falling in love with a plant is sexually oriented. It's actually sexually oriented, no matter any of the genders. Right, and that shouldn't be for kids. Yeah. If it's like the whole play is that, then you can't do it for kids. Right.

Well, not in front of it. Otherwise, the gender is like not part of it. Yeah. Well, yeah, they're going to cancel a screening of the clumps soon, too, because they don't want Eddie Murphy dressed as his mother in that. All right, well, let's talk about Halloween Horror Nights. Growing up in L.A., this was a huge thing, one of Universal Studios, using one with, like, your friend group.

You could get, like, $10 off because you had, like, a sprite can. You brought a dirty-ass spike spray can with you to the gate. But now it's a much bigger thing. It's big in Orlando, too. And, like, this year, they've got all kinds of attractions. They got stuff for sinners, Evil Dead, and Ozzy Osbourne. some reason. I'm sure they were quick to license his likeness for a...

Is he a universal property? I'm sure, look, maybe Sharon was like... Yeah, I think he might be... Why don't we license his likeness? So I'm not sure what's going to happen if you're just going to hear the voice going, Sharon, constantly through the park or what, but whatever. Yeah. Like very slowly.

Yeah. Shaking. Damn. But the hit of the year. obviously obsession. It is being represented by an actress playing Nikki who roams throughout the park. And when it was first announced, a lot of people were like, isn't this kind of backwards? Isn't Nikki the victim of the story?

Not really the villain, which is kind of the thrust of the film. And they're like, they're like, should we really be putting her up there with the likes of, you know, Chuckie, the doll, or Ozzy Osbourne? Is this really what we should be doing? But there was a clip of this woman going around went viral because the character, this character, had to cut a meet and greet short and, like, break character because she was being screamed at by a bunch of teenagers who don't know how to act. They were just kept, they were just doing the, no, no, like, just kept screaming no at her in unison from the film. And I was to the point where she kept trying to talk to these people and then had to be like, I'm so sorry about, like, just fully.

broke character. Yeah. Just because these kids were just screaming. I think that's nothing new in this post-lockdown period of people not knowing how to behave in public. But this has been an issue even since the beginnings of Halloween Horror Night. So like back in 2015, the Orlando Sentinel, they had like an investigation they published into the violence and harassment that performers are subjected to, like including fake zombies

being just punched in the face by guests. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Another guy got kicked in the face. An intoxicated woman, quote, kicked another actor's stilts and almost knocked him to the ground. Oh, God.

Yeah. And Universal's website warns people, if you mistreat any of the Halloween horror nights performers, you'll be sent home, parenthetical, possibly in a body bag. Oh, yeah, it's like little jokes. Good. Yeah. But employees at the time were like,

Dude, they're not doing shit. They're like, if anything, they're doing like what the Catholic Church does. And they'd be like, okay, well, don't be in this part. You can go over there now. Do your shit over there. They're just moving people around. Yeah. Yeah.

And a lot of female employees were quitting due to just the widespread sexual harassment. They were just facing being in costume around drunk fucking people thinking that you're in a costume. So there's some kind of fucking monster or non-human thing. Another one, in 2014, an actor was, quote, attacked by six men leading to a brawl that resulted in security deploying tear gas and tasers. So it's not, look, it's not just, you know, kids who don't know how to act. The big thing though that they really point to is like the alcohol consumption. Because like it's a huge earner for the human right, right, right.

So they're like once you, yeah. Yeah, they're balancing profits over the safety of the people who are, you know, the workers. Especially and it seems like especially women, this would be. this would, well, I'm not saying that women shouldn't be scare characters, but maybe this is a time when we would have some men and women's roles so that they're getting beat up as Nikki from obsession or whatever. And I will say like obsession, when I still haven't seen it. I was actually in San Fran recovering from my surgery during that time, so I still haven't seen it. But obviously I know about it and I've seen it memed. And I do find it fun.

how the female character, Nikki, is like the meme of the movie when I'm assuming in actuality, it's about how this guy is like a total asshole. And this is kind of, I guess, the new, like, bro. Like, every few years, we get like a new, like, kind of bro cinema movie. And I think this is kind of that for this generation. Well, clearly a lot of people, the message was lost on a lot of people. And I think they just, they're just, they just, latch on to like, well, what was the scary thing?

Yeah. Yeah. Just like with, uh, like all of these other kind of bruce sentiment movies that pop up, they totally are lost on the message. And, you know, in this case, they have like aimed their misogyny at these, these women's characters. If you were a theme park designer worth a damn, the scariest realm would be what happened to Nikki during that movie?

Yes. Right. Like if you, if you, if you, if you, as a maze or something. Trapped in whatever the fuck realm she is, we see, we hear her in for like a fraction of a second. Yeah.

What the fuck is happening there? It's really, I mean, I think this is also maybe, it's just like this idea, like just one dystopian level further where you can just pay money, drink,

and beat up human beings. It's like West World. Yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah. Or just like get out some weird, deep-seated shit that's like, we're getting brought out to you

because you see someone on stilts or a clown. I think so many people like, you know, like with horror, there's certain things appeal to people's subconscious on a certain level. And like to go into a place you're surrounded by that. And these people are like dressed up pretending to not be people. And that sounds like a fucking disaster for America because no one is fucking, everyone needs help.

During like the zombie walking dead era, there's like a whole subgenre of like white dudes. that were fantasizing about like zombie apocalypse. Apocalypse, yeah. Because it would mean that they would just be able to like shoot, like, kill people. They want to kill people. Yeah, they want to kill people.

And then I can protect a woman who will date me because I could shoot the zombies. Yes, exactly. And she will be called, I don't know, I haven't thought of her name yet, but it'll be nice. The thing that's also wild too, right, is like, the alcohol, everyone says it's the fucking alcohol that is like one of the biggest drivers of the problems.

In 2017, the Orlando Sentinel, just two years after publishing that investigative report about the fucking, like, just the fucking chaos of being a scarecter at Halloween Horror Nights, they published rules for a Halloween Horror Nights drinking game. Yeah. And then they pulled it down because people were like, oh, fuck yeah, we're doing this. And we're getting, quote, a little handsy with the scare actors. Yeah. Which seems like pretty cavalier way to describe assault. This is how they even talk about it. This is from the archived post of the Sentinel article about the drinking games.

It says, so somewhat overzealous partiers get two sloshed and a little handsy with this characters. So now I have to give the dad talk. No one likes to be grabbed, goose, or groped. Just like in the champagne room, there's no touching. Yeah. In the champagne room. What the fuck are you talking about in this arch? This is what they...

This was the little caveat they attached to their drinking game after they know they're like, yeah, it's the booze. All right, here's how you get fucked up there. And don't goose them, will you? Yeah. Talk about assaulting people.

Like, maybe if you... Like, there's never... The phrase, a little handsy, is never anything other than straight up sexual assault. Yeah, that's a very 2017... The entire statement is all very, like, euphemisms, like the champagne room, I'm like all of the, like, what?

Well, and like the champagne room, you're talking about a private dance with a stripper? Right. So we're already making it. What is this? So these people are here for your pleasure. Like, you're like, and just like the other place

where these people are objects to you, let's not think about the humanity, but also just no touching. No touching. But at least at a fucking strip club, if you're touching a big ass bouncer come and beat the shit out of you or fucking scare the fuck out of you

and protect people, they don't have that at universal. So. Well, it sounds like they need to have some bouncers. Yeah, maybe they. Because again, it sounds like everything like so much of American culture, like where people just don't know how to act is because there's such an inability to tell people to fucking stop or people aren't reprimanded properly.

It's always like, well, you know, this person's rich or, well, this person. Yeah. And we make excuses for not being like, no, bro, this is not some shit to play with you're fucking out of here. But they're making fun. The customer is always right. is assault on workers. Yeah, exactly.

That's all that phrase exists. It is. So, anyway, if you're out there, please don't goose or grope them, okay? Just like the champagne room. Don't assault anyone in or out of Halloween horror nights. Or the champagne room.

I think, and also, please bring the strip club bouncers to Halloween horror nights because according to, like, a survey of people who are working as scare actors, 82% of them don't report any kind of assault or harassment because they felt it wouldn't matter since nothing happens. Yeah.

That's a fucking huge failure. Damn. Yeah. Just to be like, it's, I mean, again, reflective of so many transgressions people face in this country, there's always a thing that's like, I don't even know if anyone, I don't even know if I can receive justice, actually. And I'm sure they're paid so well,

and I'm sure that there's, you know, benefits and all of this kind of stuff. Oh, sure, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. college tuition and all that. All right, let's take another break. When we come back, let's just get fucking swallowed by a whale at this point. Just fucking give it up. Please.

I want a whale's gullet after this. Canadian women are looking for more. More to themselves, their businesses, their elected leaders, and the world are out of them. And that's why we're thrilled to introduce the Honest Talk podcast. I'm Jennifer Stewart. And I'm Catherine Clark. And in this podcast, we interview Canada's most inspiring women, entrepreneurs, artists, athletes, politicians, and newsmakers,

all at different stages of their journey. So if you're looking to connect, then we hope you'll join us. Listen to the Honest Talk podcast on I Heart Radio or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Lisa, we should tell them about our new show. Oh my God, Lexi. We have a new podcast.

It's called Don't Lie to Me. I'm Lexi Youanu. We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. And I'm Lisa Di Giulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. I'm not going to get any of your fighting. That is wild. I learned that about you

today. Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business, and I've always got something to say. If men were just honest about this, there would be so much more peace in the world. We're going to talk about dating, relationships, beauty, getting older, and a little wiser. We're best friends, but we don't always agree. Because you told us how accommodating you are. Obviously, I would do what I think I could do to fight the fight, but there's only so much fight I can fight. Don't lie to me.

Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Liar. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I don't really care.

The WNBA playoffs are here, and while the games will be spread across seven different channels and streaming services, you only need one podcast to keep up to date on all the action. Good Game with Sarah Spain is the only daily podcast for all your WNBA needs. Be the smartest fan at the sports bar by learning all the W-Stories, stake stats, and stars, and hear from top players and coaches about their pregame routines, the pressure of playoff basketball, and the moments that define legacies.

Can we actually compete for a championship? And I think the answer is yes. You know, the best part about stuff, but is parents have come up to me. Thank you. You helped my relationship with my daughter so much. It goes a lot further than you would think. Every time you underestimate a Yukon player comes at your own peril. You know, when you talk about women's sports, it's like Prego spaghetti sauce. It's in there.

You know it, it's in there. You name it. It's in there. Want to know what's really going on in the WNBA? We got you. Listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. For more than a century, Miss America sold the country of fantasy. Well, are you ready, ladies? Okay, here we go.

But over the past decade, the crown's been slipping. They said goodbye to swimsuits. Now, hello to lawsuits. I'm Bridget Armstrong. Last season, we took you inside the world of America's next top model. Now I'm back with season two of this podcast, Curse of Miss America, investigating the rise, fall, and uncertain future of one of America's most iconic institutions. The Miss America Pageant.

I never received scholarship money to pay for my student loans. He looks and he goes, you don't look like you suffered an eating disorder. She's great, but looks too ethnic. It's a story the Miss America organization really doesn't want us to tell. An exploitation of our Miss America's is treated by the Miss America organization as an attack on Miss America itself. Listen to the curse of Miss America on the Iheart Radio app,

Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Every case has a story. Every victim has a voice, but will it be heard? I'm Nancy Grace on crime stories. We go beyond headlines to examine evidence, challenge the story we're fed, and pursue justice for victims and their families. Please join us at Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you find your podcasts. You join us. I'll see you there, friend. And we're back. We're back.

And a new character has entered the chat. Yeah. In the run-up to the midterm elections, it's, you know, Democrats, Republicans out there, making their cases to the people. We focus mostly on national politics. And you forget, it's easy to forget that the real fun is at the local level, not just for how your community can change for the better, but also the kinds of. Because, you know, there's a little bit of a filter you have to pass to get on the national stage.

Local, it's about the people. Unfiltered. And in this case, in Indiana. Unfiltered Reds. In this Indiana City Council race, this woman named Jamie West, she seems to have a backstory like a lot of new candidates, people who are new to politics that decided to run, given what's happening with this administration. You know, she's a mom. She does gig work, and she cares about her local community and the environment. And that inspired her candidacy.

And so she had the chance to talk to local news recently and get in front of voters. And shit was a little, people think she's wasted. Right. I think that's the big thing. People think she's wasted. However, I got to say, everything she's saying, it's like one of these things where everything she's saying, people are like, no lies detected though. Right. She may be wasted, but I agree.

I agree. So this is a clip. It's like legend of drunken master, but like for politics where she just like gets up there and she's like, yeah, this is what I need to get to. She starts off with like a Forrest Gump like line and she's like, and that's all I have to say about that. Yes. So she's finishing. She's finishing.

I watched the whole thing, which is also very interesting because the first question is like, why should people trust you as a city councilor? Very damn. She's like, I do gig work. And I deliver a lot of groceries. If you trust me and deliver your groceries,

you trust me to be city council. And you're like, all right, all right. Okay, I'm cool with that. I'm in. So this is where she,

goes on now. She's asked a question, you'll hear. She has a little trouble understanding it, but then gets going and finally delivers the real answer. So here's Jamie West, Democratic candidate in Indiana. Oh my God, just from her pose, you can tell. This is her going, and that's all I got to say about that. Costure is the yoga pose beer burp. If I look like this, I'm, I wish I could go home and go to bed. I'm too drunk at the bar. Glasses off around your neck. So here we go. Jamie West, take it away. And that's what I have to say about that. That was the opening. And our last question of the night is, if elected, what is one decision that you expect to make that may be unpopular with some voters, but you believe

ultimately would be in the best interest of Fayette County? I wouldn't raise your taxes. What is the one decision that I would make? Hmm. Take your time. Repeat that again. What is the one decision that I would make? That would make that might not be popular for fake. Right, that may be unpopular with some voters. Some voters.

But is in the best interest of the county. Here we go. Firing all Republicans, I wouldn't let them, I mean. I don't even talk to them. I don't like them. I mean, they voted against our stone state representative voted against her own party. I mean.

Yeah, I'm not sure what that was about. What do you want me to say? I don't like being around them. I mean... He's doing the thing that when you're so drunk, you're hoping just your facial expressions are going to get the communication across because you don't have the words to be like,

I mean, what do you want me to say? These people are fascists. They're opening the door to have our neighbors taking, which is like, I mean, I don't like them. And they're just like, you just got to get out of here. So I need to see another interview with her. I know people like this who are just kind of seem drunk all the time. Yeah.

Have like something going on with the air air. Before you say she's, I'm like what she could have a lot of people weren't like the person who first posted on Twitter is like I was trying to find any information if she had any kind of like neurological condition or anything. I didn't want to just jump into this and be like, check this shit out. They said they couldn't find anything. So they're not going to speculate. But they were just like, this is just a wild interview regardless because she goes on later on to talk about, you know, like Democrats are strapped to. I think her closing statement. They're like, what's your closing statement?

She gives like an equally long, like, pause and then here. We'll hear her closing statement because this is where she's, that got a lot of headlines. And Republicans are like, oh, this is really bad for the Democrats. We get it. You know, there are good Republicans out there. But then there's these maggas who are just racist and aren't very intelligent at all. They call you names. They, I might, you don't share.

nephew's trying to blow my head off. But, you know, what are you going to do? Well, that brings us to your opportunity to say just a few last words to the voters. Amazing supporting work by the interviewer. Last words. We have guns, too. Tell them. In Indiana, definitely.

What's your close statement? We got guns too. I think I sold them all? I love words. She's like, you know, it's so good a republic. because, but there's these Magas. The sheriff's nephew's threatening to blow my job. Is that related to MAGA or did you, the sheriff's nephew?

I mean, the thing is, you know, it's like, which she. One of those things where, again, I'm watching like, yeah, I mean, yeah, I get it. Purge the Republicans in the office. I understand that impulse. I understand that you're saying like, yeah, these people are actually the architects or they've rarod this terrible wave of American governance in 2026 into our lives. But she also just says like some really interesting shit too. She was asked earlier about data centers.

Yeah. And she was like, I'm against them because I'm an environmentalist. They're bad. And then she's like, well, what would it take for you to accept the construction of a data center in your county? She goes, well, what would it take? They got to pay for everything. First of all. And she's like, well, it's like everything.

Like you got to make sure everything's clean. Like the energy, it's got to be solar. It can't be bad, dirty energy. Then the water they use, it can't be water we need. They got to figure out how to do that without taking our water. Also, they need to give every resident in the county a $10,000 annual payment for having the data center. Okay. Then she goes, then I want college tuition guaranteed for every child that Garrett graduates from the local high school.

And I was like, and she was wasted. Whatever was going on. That's awesome. That was her, like, she knew how to be like, what's it going to take? Well, it better be transformational for the benefit of every person who lives here. And I was like, it's odd to see, like, you know, because you see like racist people end up running for office for the Republicans, obviously. And they don't really know much except like they don't like foreigners or gay people or something. And that's all they have.

This woman is kind of similar, like, she doesn't know all the technicalities of governance, but she knows something's deeply wrong. Yeah. And there's a better way to. do it. So I'm kind of like, yeah, all right. Like, I hope this isn't a milkshake duck situation where we find out something else after the fact. But she seems sturdy. I just love, I love your sentiment. I love where you're coming from. Yeah. What's it going to take? Give everybody everything for free. And I'm like, yeah. Yeah, well, we need a little corporate socialism. They got to pay into the

thing. We got to create a sovereign wealth fund. Yeah. That's wonderful. You know, she's a lady at the end of the bar. At the end of the night, she's a little, you want to be dismissive. And then you realize, oh, she's lived a life. She's actually spitting fast kind of. Yeah, she knows. Instead of means testing, we just do like blackout testing. Right.

They just like democratic ideas go through a filter of people who are just like, what do I do about it? We got guns to. So she is. She ain't scared. So you know what, Jamie West? I'm really curious to see how your candidacy ends up. And finally, we got to talk Pringles. That's what you're here for.

I can't wait. They've announced a surprisingly ghoulish contest. It's called Once You Drop. This is real. So, you know, this is real. This is real. It's rare that junk food brands. Are we participating in stunt marketing right now?

We are. Did they do something so outlandish that they're trying to get guys like you to describe it on podcasts? They did. They got my ass. God damn it. Jack wants a platinum bringles can, I think, for his house. And I'm just saying, why not me? Is this going to be like a hands-on-a-hard?

body situation? Is it like... It's sort of, you have to let that, you have to sign over something that they're calling your last will and tastiment. So do you see what they've done there? Yeah. What does that mean?

Instead of will and testament. Oh, tastement. Yeah, will and tastiment. And that allows them to bury you in an iconic platinum Pringles can. Oh, you can get buried in a Pringles can?

You have to agree to be buried in a Pringles can, and then you get to be buried in a Pringle's can, and you also get a afterlife supply of chips. After lifetime supply. After lifetime. Wait, I'm sorry. The promotion is if you agree to be buried, you have to agree to be

buried in a Pringle's can, and then what you get is you get to be buried in a Pringle's can. Yes. And chips. After you're dead? Yeah. What is the? I know, you get the chips right away. Is it just free Pringles can? coffins? Is that what's going on? What's happening?

So this actually, there's a old piece of lore that's actually true that the Pringles creator, Lawrence Bauer, had was pre-made and had part of his remains placed in a Pringle's container. That was his last Will and Testament. And they had to be like, that's actually not true because there were a lot of rumors that like he, his remains were in Pringles. And so they had to be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But now they're like, fuck it, man. This is what marketing has come to.

You're eating old Larry Bauer dust. We can't get Kelly Clarkson to get into a feud with us. So this is what we have to do. A little bit of Larry's in every can of print. A little Larry. That would be great of like Dave Thomas was in all the Wendy's burgers a little bit. Right. They just grind him up and just like a little couple of miles.

Was Dave Thomas a good guy? I always worry about like old grandpa white people from the ages that I thought were nice. So he was a, so if you look at, him up. He was considered a good guy because he adopted so many children. But he adopted so many children that you're like, that's too many. You know, of all very diverse children, he adopted like many, many kids. I think he was, I think he was a nice guy in the old Christian guy mold. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Like 40s, 50s, people are like, there goes the nicest guy I know. And now people are like, hmm. Oh, because he was adopted.

Oh. How about that? So good for him. Wait, was Wendy adopted? Was Wendy? No way to know, Jack. No way to know. Yeah.

Wendy was his daughter, I believe. Yeah. Lied to? Yeah. Okay. Is there another product with a more iconic container? That's what, that's ultimately, I think. We were talking about the Diet Cook.

Martinelli's Apple juice. Martinelli's Apple juice is a good one. In the Apple bottle. Yeah. Comes in an apple bottle? Yeah, the glass bottle that's shaped like an apple. I've never seen that once in my life. Oh, really?

It's not as iconic as sprinkled. but it's a great pool. You're not raising a bunch of young kids who love a bit of martinelli's in the glass bottle. Also, I grew up, that was like the one thing. I couldn't have soda. I could have Martinelli's apple juice. Oh, wow.

That's why I drink soda every day now. That was what we would drink in, like, on Christmas for Christmas dinner and like a crystal goblet, me and my sister would drink. It was always kids champagne, for sure. Yeah. What else? I think Big League Chew coming out to tobacco pouch.

Nothing else. I love how the Big League Chew has the whole story written on it where it's like, you know, baseball players were chewing too much tobacco. And so we came up with this bubble gum that looks exactly like tobacco. Yeah. For the kids. And that's an early way of introducing them. Yeah.

I mean, the Coke. The original Coke bottle is like the most iconic, unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. That shape. What I think is funny about Pringles is everyone loves that can. No one talks about how. the chips are bad.

They're the only potato chips you can buy that aren't fried slices of potato. Every other potato chip is like they take a fucking potato chip. They're deconstructed. Yeah. They are reassembled. They are the particle board of, you know, they're the IKEA laminated.

Particle board potato chip. Yeah. Because it's like pink goo for potato chips. I like my potato chips to melt in my mouth. Like even if you buy fucking late, Lays is like they just took potatoes in frying. Yeah, you look at it and you're like, that looks like a potato.

Whereas that, Pringles are its own thing. It's like its own substance. Yeah. Every time I see them, though, like, I think the original ones suck. Like, I will never eat a regular. It has to be flavor.

It has to be, the only things I can really, with pringles that I like have the flavor. The regular ones, I think it's so jarring. Yeah. I'm like, this isn't a fucking potato chip. Yeah.

I think the main one is greens to like a sour cream and onion. Yeah. you'd get. Yeah, that's a good one. Okay. I think that's the only good one. So,

so they reconstructed the Pringle in that particular shape so that they could all stack and fit in a can. Yeah. Why is that good? Like, why do I particularly want to eat chips out of a can that are in a column? Like, I understand it's iconic.

I understand we like the look of it. But like, how is that better than a bag? They don't get, they don't get messed up. They don't get all cracked up and crushed in a bag. What if the potato was really long? Yeah.

It was just really long. That's the question that it asks. And I think it's also just good marketing, too. Because suddenly every other, I'm sure the guy, Lawrence Bowers, like, every asshole's putting chips in a bag. What we're going to do is we're going to chew up a bunch of potato chips, spit that out, and then flatten them into our own chip paste, then put that in a can, and everyone's going to be talking about this crap.

Because that's what it feels like masticated potato chips that were repressed for your enjoyment. Right. You think the Pringle's guy and the, the Monopoly Man are married? Are they definitely? They ever fucked? I think they're definitely in a thruple with the National Bohemian guy too. The Can't the Baltimore Maryland beer, Natty Boe also has a

very similar Pringle-esque face. I don't know this brand. It's a very regional. Look, Zite Gang from out there. Chesapeake Zite gang, let them know, Natty Bo. Yeah, it has here. Let me just show you. I'd love to see this. the image is like this. He's kind of like the Pringle's guy.

Oh, yeah. Look at that. Oh, yeah, there he is. Oh, wait. What about Utt's potato chips? Is there a Utt's guy? Oh, maybe that's a little girl. Oh, man, maybe.

I think it's a little girl. Yeah, it's a girl. Yep, yep, yep. Okay. Yeah, they all have very, they all seem like they're from the weird family of all one-dimensional faces. You know, beer a Moretti,

the Moretti beer guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. A stashed guy. who appears to be crying in his beer. Yeah. Yeah, so all the mustached lonely men from labels. They all get together. It's like a TikTok house.

Trying to figure out how to get their shit going again. Oh, yes, you left me. Trust me, but we got to hit this dance right. I'm telling you, it's the scuba, right? Fuck, she was right. I'm a fucking loser. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world demiles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday. Bye. We have a new podcast. It's called Don't Lie to Me. I'm Lexi Yuanyu.

We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart. And I'm Lisa Di Giulio, the old one, which must be. means we have wildly different references, occasionally different opinions, and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all. Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes, good taste is my business. Listen on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If anyone wanted to commit a murder, up here would be the greatest place in the world to hide the body.

But no one will find it. He acted friendly. He talked friendly. He sounded friendly. They all knew that I did the scary boogie stuff And I said maybe she'll find out where this girl is I saw him violent Backhanded her a pow

Listen to the devil's quarry Season 2 in the Bone Valley feed On the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts Or wherever you get your podcasts In recent episodes of the Questlove show I chat with Jojo about her music And Wallow 267 about his story

Everything in between Don't invite me to karaoke I'm going to make it weird. Someone's going to try to sing, leave it, get out, or too little, too late, or baby, it's you. Oh, no. And I'm going to be like,

okay, cool. Check out my conversation with Jojo, Wilo 267, and more on the Questlove show. Listen to the Questlove show on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

Peace. Bloomberg's Big Take podcast has everything you need to know about the most expensive midterms in U.S. history, like the money being spent to control the Senate. Everyone has been waiting to see how Trump will spend his big war chest. He was sitting on nearly half a billion dollars.

How candidates are rewriting their party's playbooks and how big business is throwing its money into the ring. There's obviously the AI super PACs, which are two sides there. So they're spending sometimes on different sides of races, sometimes on the same side of races. Listen to the big take on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. I'm Max Chaffkin. We are both journalists at Bloomberg Businessweek. And our podcast, Everybody's Business, finds the meaning behind the numbers.

Things like, why is ice cream so expensive right now? Is Polymarket the new stock market? And Max, will we ever retire? Because decoding the money, power, and influence that moves the world is everybody's business. Listen to everybody's business on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.