The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 453 (Best of 10/19/26-10/23/26)

Episode Date: October 25, 2026

The weekly round-up of the best moments from DZ's season 461 (10/19/26-10/23/26)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:32 dastardly individual like you. Listen to Get Worse with Kyle Pru on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the weekly zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one non-stop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Uh, yeah. So without further ado, here is. The Weekly Zykeist.
Starting point is 00:03:04 What's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, okay, I'm not a huge horror movie fan. I like spooky. I don't like full on scary. Okay. So I recently, my boyfriend was watching backrooms, and I was like, I'm just gonna read it.
Starting point is 00:03:22 So this is what I do with horror movies. I mean to read it. I went on Wikipedia and I just read the plot. This is what I do with horror movies. If I'm just like, I'd like to know. Yeah, I'm just like, all right, what's happening here? Oh, that's what happens. How long was it?
Starting point is 00:03:34 Like one paragraph? Yeah. It's a lot of. It was very short. Then he goes into another room. Yeah. This one? Also a back room.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Then his therapist don't believe. Yeah. It's not, I go, I'm going to get eyes on this. Okay. Now I know what it looks like. Let's go read it. Did you get to see his like weird. The thing.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Yeah. I saw that. And I was like, I don't. I will not watch this, but I will find out what happens. This is how. Honestly, it's how I watch most horror movies. If I'm going to try to sit and watch something, I will just, I need to know what's happening ahead of time.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Oh, and that sort of disarms. Yeah, yeah. All right, I know where it's going. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Because I'm that level of control freak. Sure, sure, sure. But yeah, it helps me a lot.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I do the same thing when like a meme comes out from a horror film. I just have to like, yeah. I'm like, I don't fucking tell me why. Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. So that's what happened to the older cult members in midsummer. I see.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Exactly. I'll start getting stressed out. If I'm watching and I'll be like, I'll just skip ahead and see what's happening. Let me spoil this for myself. Oh, okay. Yeah. I love to spoil things.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Have you ever read something and been like, oh, I mean, not really, but or just, what if I was like, oh, Wikipedia? Oh. No. Description of that event. I thought backgrounds was terrifying because I'm scared of the color yellow. Yeah. So that really freaked me out. Yeah, that kind of office space.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Yeah. Yeah. And that too. I think the way I came away with it, I was like, it's cool visually, but it's saying nothing, but I expect that from a filmmaker so young. Yeah. It didn't quite have like a real sort of. piercing message. The thing that I liked was like, oh, this is kind of fucking weird, though.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah. Good for you. I'm glad we made some just weird shit. Yeah. All right. I'm interested in the line between spooky and scary, though. What is the scariest movie you like? And what is the like one that's just right over the edge there for you? Like, right over to edge here for you. I like a scream. Okay. Yeah. You like a scream. I like a scream. I like Evil Dead one and two. I think. I'm pretty I won't watch the new Evil Dead. But they're kind of campy. There's like there's a yeah. Yeah. I need campy. I need a tension breaker. I guess the evil dead is like as much a love letter to Looney Tunes cartoons as it is like a scary horror movie.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Exactly. I can handle a couple of jumps. I don't like grim, I think. I don't like just like a non-funny grim time. I don't want to watch a dead none. I don't want to watch like anything like super, super natural that's not like fun at all. Yeah. It's not for me at all.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Yeah, yeah. Like 2X supernatural. Yeah. Super supernatural. Did you watch Windows Bay? I did, and it scared me. Yeah, but was that right on the line for you? That's right on the line.
Starting point is 00:06:06 That's for me. Like, I was like, I liked Widows Bay because it has that. Yeah. It was like, there's good, like comedic moments, but still being freaky. Yeah. Scary stuff happening in back rooms in that show. I'll tell you what. That's true.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Yeah. Yeah. Dougie fresh. Michael Winslow I think this should just be what the show is. I'm Michael Winslow. You've got a full Michael Winslow. Hey, don't go, man.
Starting point is 00:06:43 What do you think about that? Yeah. I'll have some like sound effect. Yeah, we don't. Yeah, we don't. Yeah, we don't. Yeah, we do. It's cool clack or thing.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Podcasts are at a point now where we're either becoming full talk shows or morning zoo coos. Yeah, yeah. We're fighting for our fucking lives right now. We're fighting for our fucking lives. You don't know what we are. Man. You don't know what it's like. What is something, Janie, that you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:07:15 Okay. I couldn't find, I had a hard time with this, with all of these, honestly. Where did I write this down? Over, under, well, I think personally, the album Crisis Acting in the End Times, or How to Kill the Antichrist and Save Rock and Roll by Janie Danger is a criminally underrated album. Yeah. But a lot of people are saying.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Many are saying. I think that's very underrated. It should be very, very highly rated. It should be going just off the charts rated. Should be. But aside from that, I had a few here. I wrote down, honestly, I wrote down. down Nathan Fielder, but I feel like we're going to talk about that later. So I might save that.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Okay. I wrote that down because even though he's one of the most highly rated things ever, I still feel like he's misunderstood in a sense by a lot of people. So we could maybe save my thoughts on that. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Here, I'll go with this one since it's Halloween time. Uh, free movie, free movie sites. Not everyone is good at torrenting. And I understand that. I've told Some of my coworkers, one thing I really like to say, and I say it like this every time, is how it feels to not have any streaming services at all, not pay for any of them, is,
Starting point is 00:08:32 and I'm doing like a motion of handcuffs with my hand, and I'm breaking them, and I'm breaking them, liberating yourself. It feels so freeing, not having to pay for anything, and just finding it. And I still probably spend, I still give more money to, like,
Starting point is 00:08:49 movies I like and stuff, than I ever would by using streaming services. But I will say there's still to this day websites out there on the regular internet that you can just click click, click, click away. And it might not have exactly what you want. Sure. It's going to have something beautiful and crazy and especially around Halloween. I'm a big fan of effed up movies.
Starting point is 00:09:13 And it does have a lot of really bad shit in it that I'm kind of working on a secret little project about right now. But it has a bunch of just normal-ass, like, dope-ass movies. Like, it's got, like, a bunch of, like, slasher's and Gialo, and it's got, like, Harmony Corinne movies and, like, anything that's effed up. Right. And it's just, it's just there. I was surprised how much shit was on the Internet Archive, too.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Like, I was looking for an old Comedy Central show, and the entire season was just, like, uploaded it, like, it was, like, 360P, which is fine. It was, like, from the 90s. Yeah. But I was like, it's all here, and it's not on a single streaming site. It's probably better quality now than it was watching it on like a CRT in like the in 1994. Like, yeah, so shout out to free movie sites. I think they're so underrated.
Starting point is 00:10:03 I don't want to say too many because I don't want to blow up their spot. Yeah. Go on Reddit. You find them by just searching. Yeah, go on Reddit. Also, there's free movies on YouTube. You can watch Inland Empire in full on YouTube. I don't know how.
Starting point is 00:10:20 It hasn't been taken down. You can watch Silence of the Lambs on there, too. What? Maybe if it's like a free? Premium? Amazing. I don't know. Amazing stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I saw it and then I was like, y'all are changing the words. I have to, I can't watch this version of Silence of the Lambs, actually. You realize you're watching Seinfeld of the Lamb. Cramer, what are you doing to these girls? What are you doing? They put the lotion on a skin, Jerry. I can smell your, like Kramer's Buffalo Bill. And Newman.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And it's like, I know how to catch him, Clarice. With that Wayne Knight laugh. Yeah, Clarice is, you're like, I don't remember Julia Louis Drathist being in this film. Hello, Elaine. I could definitely see her coming around the corner to his cell and just Wayne sitting there with a big smile on his face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:13 That is an awkward moment where Hannibal Lecter is just standing there in his whites with like his hands behind his back or like on his hips. Yeah. Very cute. Fucking George was in a Jacob's ladder, which I remember the first time I watched that. I was like, what that? That's George. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Great 90s or late 80s run. And it was great, too, because Jason Alexander was wearing so many wigs in different roles, too. Are you like, oh, he got hair in this one? All right. Yeah. Yeah. That was kind of the prototype of just, like, guy in a silly wig. Like, every episode of, like, it's always sunny where Frank Ray's a wig.
Starting point is 00:11:45 It doesn't have to be a joke. It's just always funny every time you should have a wig. Just do it with a straight. face. What is something you think is overrated? Sports. I mean, by by virtue of the fact that here's the thing, I don't know if you guys are familiar with Gretchen Rubin, who wrote a book called among many books. One of them is called The Four Tendencies. And the tendencies are regarding how you motivate, whether you're more a motivator from the inside or from the outside. And the four tendencies are, there's the people who are motivated more internally, more
Starting point is 00:12:20 externally, then there's both, and then there's neither. And so she calls the ones who are neither rebels, and their motto is, you can't make me, and neither can I. And I am the kind that is an internal motivator, which is called that she calls the questioners. The ones who both are called upholders and the ones who are more externally motivated are what she calls obligers. And that is the largest group of them. She says, of all the people, you know, in our society, perhaps in the world, more people than any other type motivate, but what's the group doing? You know, like, I'll go along with this political party or this religion
Starting point is 00:13:01 or this, what we do in our family or in our community or our culture. And we all do these things in many ways. Like, I'll drive approximately the speed limit, not because it's just the rule, but because I think it's a good rule and it's a good law and it's safe to do it. So I internalize that and I'm like, but I question, like, is it good? I don't follow every law. I follow the laws that I think are, you know, good and reasonable and kind to people and will cause the least harm. And the reason I bring this up is because I think the whole question of what is overrated and what is underrated.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Oh, shit. I'm not trying to take down your whole system. No, do it. But it involves— This is the last episode of this podcast. It involves my—I think, the way that I'm interpreting, it involves my imagination of what other people think. thing, right? Which based on what I'm seeing, I'm like, oh, a lot of people are talking about this or a lot of people are complaining about that. But we live in such, you know, unique times now compared to, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:59 10 years, 20 years, 30 years ago, where it used to be we kind of, the monoculture was showing us all approximately the same thing. But now, like, there are people, like, I'm on threads. I love being on threads and the discourse on threads might seem like it's everywhere, but then I'll talk to a person who's not on threads, and they'll be like, I actually don't know anything about anything that's going on. So even the concept of rating is like more locally situated. And so I think that for me personally, like, I don't begrudge anyone what they love. Like, if you love sports, It's like I'm not saying, like, as an ethical concern, like, people have to stop caring about sports as much as they do and be more like me and not care about it as much. Like, I want the people to be happy.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I live in New York City when the Knicks won people were happy and I'm happy for anything that makes people happy. I do like that in art, there's, you know, you don't have to have losers for there to be winners. But I get that sports is an arguably different thing than art. But for me, many people, it seems outside of myself, that people rate sports in a higher fashion than I do. And so I have no judgment. I want to play your game. I follow your rules. I tell you what I think is rated higher than I would rate it.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And one of those things is sports. But I love you, sports lovers. Sports lovers, look, I don't hate the player. I don't hate the fans. He hates all the games. I don't even hate the game. I just, I love the people, and the system is fine. I will say, yeah, one of my arguments for sports is like, well, look how great it is when everything comes together and, like, the biggest city in the country is all happy.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And you have, like, dopamine going through everybody's brains at the same time. That hasn't happened in so many years. And like every year there are 29 other cities where they're just like, fuck. It's just a unnecessary dose of whatever the opposite of dopamine is. So, yeah, I do still love it. But I think it's a valid point. I mean, I'll just say on X the Everything app, obviously, loving, loving sports is a core pillar of the economy. you know, the economy, the world economy,
Starting point is 00:16:35 because how else are you going to gamble your house on sports betting? So you got to think about both sides. Betting, I'm way on board, obviously. That's the greatest thing. That's the only good thing about sports. You got to check your Bayesian priors. Oh, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:16:55 That's the best. It's like people who shouldn't be doing anything with like one week of economics class or statistics class betting their, betting all of their money. Yes, exactly. Yeah. My future self and my children, my future college age children will be fine with this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Hell yeah. Amazing. Well, thank you, Mike. We, you know, have our work cut out, finding new questions to ask every guest because underrated and overrated, clearly. Oh, yeah. You know what's overrated is asking people what? Over real.
Starting point is 00:17:31 People love doing it. Yeah. Also, you said, like, maybe it made sense 10 years ago. That's when we started this podcast. So maybe we do need to take another look at this. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back to talk about Airbnb. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:18:27 Elon Musk, Dario Hamaday, Alex Carr, Faye, Faye-Foe-Fei Lee, Palmer Lucky, because I wanted to understand what the most consequential builders believe, what they fear, and where they think this is all headed. Silicon Valley is always saying the cliche thing about the way to predict the future is to create it. Well, yeah, it's up to us. But when you say us, who's us? Is it 400 people that you know in Silicon Valley? Is it me down here in New Orleans?
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Starting point is 00:21:23 Okay, here we go. But over the past decade, the crown's been slipping. They said, goodbye to swimsuits. Now, hello to lawsuits. I'm Bridget Armstrong. Last season, we took you inside the world of America's next top model. Now I'm back with season two of this podcast, Curse of Miss America, investigating the rise, fall, and uncertain future of one of America's most iconic institutions.
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Starting point is 00:22:43 hundreds of millions, basically to try and keep the Senate in the hands of the GOP, or maybe recently he was talking about slowing down Starlink in Ukraine. There's all kinds of things going on. He blamed the White House. He also has a documentary that's coming out that many people are wondering, like, first, will David Ellison, you know, be the leader of Paramount Skydance, HBO, Warner, whatever discovery this new fucking conglomerate is, will he actually play Alex Gibney's Musk documentary on HBO because it is an HBO documentary or will he just back up the oligarch
Starting point is 00:23:18 homie and Elon Musk and then we found out his dad. His dad owns TikTok, Larry Ellison, he permanently suspended the Musk account on TikTok. So that was, yeah, just some oligarch news. And I believe that it was restored after a few people were like, what the fuck are you doing? Again, I think we're going to see more things like this happen and people give bullshit excuse is like, oh, that was actually like a mistake or something. Just had to reinstate that. Yeah, a lot's happening.
Starting point is 00:23:48 But with Elon Musk specifically, he's looking for something to get the Tesla stock going, to get people to believe that he's not just a total liar who has an affinity for doing Heil Hitler salutes in the middle of America. So now he's given us the new Tesla Roadster, which apparently has space X jets, built into them. He did like a whole fucking demonstration where a car basically went up like a fucking half pipe
Starting point is 00:24:20 and then used like air jets to completely land itself. So for this one was it's driving up vertically on a wall. Then it's inverted driving up. It's like a half loop. And then the car it's, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:37 It's stupid. I'm not to describe this. Like this is the music playing. It's just going up a wall, like stuck to a wall. And you're like, oh shit, the future is now. The thing was able to stick to a wall. And here comes the coup de grace. It goes up the wall.
Starting point is 00:24:54 How do you get invited to this? It goes up the ramp, turns around, and then lands with a bunch of air brakes. So that is distracting. I will give them that. That did distract the shit out of me. I don't know what's going on in the world. after seeing that. So this was at a Tesla at their test facility in Texas.
Starting point is 00:25:20 It's the new roadster. It's a two-person sports car that not only can go from zero to 60 in less than a second, so beyond record time, but he said it used suction underneath the car to climb up the steep ramp, hang upside down before spinning, flipping, and using air jets to land. It was sort of like the technical description from the Tesla. the people. It is weird that they made it a two-seater because anyone who would drive something like this has no friends.
Starting point is 00:25:51 There's no reason for that extra seat. Or you just, yeah, or that's the only thing. Your entire personality is like, hey, get in my Tesla Roadster. You want to drive up a wall and flip? Yeah. Even before you finish that sentence, no one's going to get in because they know you're like a creep. When you said get in my Tesla.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Yeah, get in my Tesla. That's the end of that conversation. No, thank you. Are we about to, you know, go do some dirt? I have no fucking clue. Get in my Tesla and allow me to mansplain everything. So this is actually air suction tanks from Elon Musk's space sex. You're not going to fucking believe this.
Starting point is 00:26:24 He could take me a long. It's going to take me a long time to tell you how this works. Yeah. You don't got anything to do after this, right? Yeah, you just drink that white claw. All right, good. All right. Let me pull up a video really quick.
Starting point is 00:26:36 This is from Jordan Peterson. You're going to fuck up this. Hey, come back. I've played the video. Come back. It hasn't even flipped yet. And then he presses the button and the whole fucking roof rips off and they end up in a mud puddle. He says, this is meant swamp.
Starting point is 00:26:50 A mud puddle. I like mud puddle. You're not wrong. You know what I mean? The way he makes these cars, when he presses the flip button, God knows what's going to happen to the people. Oh, yeah. Like, I'm surprised that it didn't explode. Again, it's using ultra high pressure air tanks, according to him, to move through the air and land on the ground.
Starting point is 00:27:09 He says production, it's going to go into production in 2028, which we all know. is a fucking lie because everything Elon Musk talks and Elon Musk talks about it doesn't come to fruition 99.9% of the time. Roadsters in the mail. At the end of the
Starting point is 00:27:25 fucking demo, someone in the audience was like, hey man, so like is this car like street legal? Like is this some shit I'll be able to? And Elon Musk's response was, uh, yeah, yeah, this quote, depends on your street, but it'll be a viable car. And he just like muttered on like just kind of
Starting point is 00:27:41 under his breath about, yeah, it'll be viable. The Tesla's own. I better hope so. It's so vague. It will be sea worthy. What? It's a boat. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Buiable car. The roaster product page for like Tesla's own product page, it contains a disclaimer specifying that the vehicle, quote, is not approved for public road use. And that the, quote, rocket model, which is presumably what we saw on the display during the event, is invite only, describing it as, quote, air ready with seating. for one. So Blake, actually to your point. Oh my God, it's seating for one. Yeah. And the reason is the air tanks that the rocket fucking version used to do like the kickflip over the other cars were occupying the passenger seat space. So it's like it doesn't even, it's going to, it's only going to be one person if you needed to do. I want to just have a terrible accident in front of a
Starting point is 00:28:35 group of on-looking teenagers at a fucking Walmart parking lot. That's how you know they name cars, you know, like, you know, whatever they are, the Nissan Armada or. or whatever. Like, there's always new names, you know, more and more dystopian, you know, like the Toyota Destroyer or whatever, you're next to it in traffic, and it's like a 700-foot-tall pickup truck and you're driving a Honda Fit and you're like... Yeah, I'm in my Honda Fit. Oh, well, I'm in a fucking Mazda fucking, what's the...
Starting point is 00:29:02 Avis Shagin Genghis Khan. Yeah. Well, right, and the name of the roadster, the name of the Tesla Roadsters, the name of the Tesla roadster is going to be the male loneliness epidemic. True. I mean, it's definitely shorthand. The rocket version only has one seat. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:29:18 600 liter pressure capacity. Like the little tanks they use, 600 liter capacity, a total of 250 kilos of air. That's why there's no passenger seat. Again, the company doesn't care if this is realistic or even going to work or even legal because they've already begun courting down payments for a massive quarter million dollars for a reservation deposit. Or you can make. make a $50,000 down payment.
Starting point is 00:29:46 That's $5,000 up front and then $45,000 do within 10 days of the first payment. You know, just like, we get it. You're going to have to move your, you're going to have to liquidate your retirement to buy this. Someone do a documentary where they interview every single person who pre-orders those and it'll be a great documentary. Oh my God. Yeah. Like I need Nathan Fielder to do that. Like the, the fucking, the pre-sale Tesla people.
Starting point is 00:30:08 That's a great idea. Well, you know this story. You're probably still going on the thing, but you know about the. You know, that it wasn't, it was hollowed out. You're right, Chris. No, no, no, I mean, you're still telling the story. So go ahead. Like, I mean, probably, you know.
Starting point is 00:30:20 I mean, there's really nothing else really to say. Like, aside from it. Just that it was hollowed out. And what I really liked about the story was as a fan of car jumps and a fan of the devil at your heels and Ken Carter and all that stuff. Like, Carnies came out and we're like, yeah, we've been doing this trick since the 70s. Like this pressurized gas, the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Oh, interesting. This is a fucking middle of the high school foot. ball game stunt show trick. Wait, so what do the carnies do? They use that to get it more of like velocity and distance basically. It's the same thing. They're like this is the old car flip gag where you use pressurized gas. I mean, it's like a fucking thing that's been done for like decades by, by as a, as part of a tricksters.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Yeah. Like, like, you know, like it'd be like. Elon Musk opens up a fire wallet next. Then it's like for 80 grand, you're too going to have fire shoot out of your wallet. Yeah. You're not going to believe this. can buy a human cannonball kit, a Tesla human cannonball. All you need is a net, a helmet, a complete lack of judgment. You have to be really lonely. You just like the kind of people
Starting point is 00:31:24 want the... Right. It's definitely like the mechanical Turk in the same way that that's been around for centuries. We're still doing things where we're saying robots are doing stuff only to find out it's a call center with human beings doing the fucking quote unquote AI work. Yeah. But you hear these people who I guess are on like whatever, just like some probably drugs. Like, if you go to that demonstration, you know what I mean? You probably take mushrooms or something. I mean, the kind of people who would go to a Tesla, like, invite only, like, we're going to show you our new roadster. Every kind of bro who goes to that is going to be like, let's fucking take, you know, let's roll.
Starting point is 00:31:57 We're going to be rolling when we see that. That's going to be awesome. Let's take ecstasy. Let's take whatever. So yeah, you see like a stunt, like a car stunt on ecstasy. Your judgment about it is like, it's magic. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Because you're going to be like, no, I was there, man. And it was way fucking cooler. Also, again, tell me how a car that does a fucking hard flip off a fucking vert ramp is in any way helping society in any measurable way outside of just, again, dumb fucking parlor trick for rich people to be like, again, I just think this is probably just going to lead to some Darwin effect where people are going to be like, yeah, like the first three people to try and flip their cars, they fucking died terribly. Yes. On their tennis court outside. Yeah. And on their tennis court, they're like, listen, let's go out to my. tennis court and I'm going to show you this fucking Tesla flip
Starting point is 00:32:44 and then you see like four charred bodies. Right, right, right, yeah, yeah. Next go to Thelma. The car's still sitting. The car's fine and still sitting still sitting still in a normal position. The car's laughing. It's like sentiently laughing. We don't even understand how they got burned up. I mean, the car looks fine. I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 00:33:00 What did you fucking think would happen? Um, car looks young. Oh yeah, the car just licked its lips. What is that? Spider caught a fly. What? That card. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:33:13 What was that to a flip, bro? I mean, beep, beep. I mean, now we're getting somewhere. All right. Let's also keep talking about. Yeah, file that one down. Put in the rule of this.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Also, just want to talk about the, again, convenient arguments I think we're going to be seeing to justify censorship and voter suppression. Last week, we talked about a story how the state of Texas failed to send out around 600,000 ballots to voters. Obviously, this is in the midst of early voting beginning. And Texas being one of the, it is based on spend, the most consequential Senate race happening in the U.S. right now.
Starting point is 00:33:50 The millions are being poured into the Senate race between Ken Paxton and James Talleyco. And so having 600,000 people not being able to vote probably helps when we're talking about margins in the maybe tens of thousands potentially, maybe a who knows how close is it's going to be. But again, their explanation was, oh, is it a glitch in the voter registration port? Well, that's crazy because we're not trying to fucking obviously suppress votes. This damn glitch in the portal is to blame. So we're getting on it.
Starting point is 00:34:20 We're fixing it. And again, they just claimed, oopsie. And hoping that now. Yeah, they're, they're going to, oh, yeah, I don't know. We don't know why Starlink went down. Crazy. It's got glitches all over, it seems. A similar incident happened over the weekend with the No King's rally Instagram account.
Starting point is 00:34:37 So there's no, no, no, kings of, you know, protests happening across the country this weekend and it was shut down on Saturday, again, when this, in the midst of this nationwide action happening, and the administrators of the, you know, No King's Coalition, they couldn't access the account for hours. This is what, this is what Meta had to say was their explanation. Quote, this is again very techno-babble bullshit, but it'll make sense on the other side. Quote, our engineering team discovered that the spike that triggered the incorrect enforcement was primarily in the account's reading behavior, specifically our network security systems detected the use of a clod tool, AI, reading profiles, posts, and hashtags the rate of which sharply increased in intense bursts.
Starting point is 00:35:18 These abrupt high-volume sequential requests in a short period resembled automated bot traffic rather than an ordinary human. This activity caused our automated protections to incorrectly take the No King's Instagram account offline. An automated re-review of the removal action an hour later recognized that shouldn't have happened and restored the account. It unfortunately took an additional time for us to straighten out the situation with admin access to the IG account, and we want to reiterate our sincere apology for the error. We'll just do a new rally then. We'll just reorganize that humongously impressive, coordinated rally now that the accounts are back online. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Sure, sure. I mean, again, for them, they're just like, whoops, dang computer glitch. Did that, it definitely wasn't us, the company that is in bed with the administration, who is the aforementioned king that we are saying no to. It couldn't be that. It's just a fucking glitch, and that's what's happening or not trying to roll back people's rights or censor them. The reasons meta gave, though, for the shutdown
Starting point is 00:36:23 don't make much sense to the no kings people. They said, quote, in the 24 hours before our account was shut down, we posted only a handful of times and live streamed to thousands. Mehta's, quote, high-frequency excuse doesn't add up. Beyond shutting down our Instagram, we've received reports that hashtag no kings and early voting, content was inaccessible, restricted, or seemed suppressed across meta platforms. So, yeah, this is.
Starting point is 00:36:46 There's so many things in there that are, that could be discussed before we leave that. I just want to mention, because you said James Tala Rico, I just want to tell you, like, does anyone else not think that James Talafrico, who thinks there's six genders, makes him sound like the most badass candidate of all time? Yeah, everything that's back. Everything's backfired when they're like. Like I'm like, holy shit, sign me up for the fucking easy. I mean, it's also just funny to see them just flailing to be like, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Let's try and up the attacks that we used in 2024 about like transphobia and be like, do this guy believe in six genders? Nobody thinks six genders sounds bad. That sounds fucking cool. I'm like, and people are like, you know, I'm actually, I'm open to hearing more. Even that. Tell the motherfuckers are probably like, listen, I'm ready for fucking six genders, flipping cars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:42 We've got a car that goes upside down. We got six genders. It's 2026 genders, bro. Let's fucking go, James Talafrico. But the thing about that excuse that meta used, it's so funny because they basically admit that if their excuse was true, which it's not, it would still be like an argument against AI. Because they're like, yeah, AI made it impossible for it broke it. And then it made it hard for us to fix it, which is everyone's experience with AI. Anyway, it's just part of this inevitability argument where they're just like, yeah, well,
Starting point is 00:38:13 we can't get rid of AI, even though it's like the whole reason this happened allegedly. I mean, it's just so complicated and how much they just. I think it allows for the actions of these people like Mark Zuckerberg. So they don't have to be completely painted with the, I mean, obviously it's clear to us. But like outwardly, if they go, oh, it was a computer glitch, then it doesn't have to be. Mark Zuckerberg helps Donald Trump by suppressing no king's rap. on the day of the no king's rally because Trump is the king and doesn't want that kind of information to be spread on the internet that he's basically bought with access to the White
Starting point is 00:38:47 House. So then it's easy to be like, it's a, it's a, it's a techno glitch. It's some technical stuff. We obviously, it's not us. It's a technology. And to your point, Chris, that means, well, then it sounds like this shit sucks. Yeah. It fucking sucks.
Starting point is 00:38:59 And this is the issue with like dependent, because it's not just like a shitty company that is like there aren't impacts that that. doesn't have impact on people. Like when you have an algorithm that's run by AI and businesses, like you see like a business account or like a personal account that like people depend on for income, get locked out of meta, you know, because an AI bot accident. Say it even was a mistake, which this clearly fucking wasn't. So say even when they're operating at their best, when they're not being devious little
Starting point is 00:39:29 fucks and the algorithm just blows and it isn't good, then a business's account can be shut down, they can't get income from it. You know, and by the business, I mean like a mom and pop. By a business, I mean, yeah, yeah, like Nabisco. No, like a mom and pop business. By Procter &G. Yeah. Yes, they're Procter P&G.
Starting point is 00:39:47 So, but it is disgusting where it's like, so you have a bad company. Like they don't treat it with the gravity that it deserves, I think, is what makes me so fucking mad about it. Where it's like, you built this monster that people fucking depend on. Well, and now you're, you got all the. human beings cut out of it who can actually like resolve an issue right away. Why did it take you an hour to get the account back online? Yeah. You've, it's a bigillion dollar fucking company. Just put it, just flip a switch, put it back online. I think why did it take an hour? I think that's
Starting point is 00:40:19 where we have to kind of like took an hour. Yeah, well, I mean, I think that's where like we're fully in this era now where it's like these people aren't, they don't give a fuck. They're saying, everything's become, well, I've created this kingdom where I control social media and I can now, I can, I can, I have more access to power because I can tell the powers that be, I can fucking flip the switch and get this account gone because I can, I control that part of people's reality right now. I can freeze your bank accounts. Yeah, exactly. It's not, it's not really about like, are we making the best product?
Starting point is 00:40:48 It's how much control can I exert with my business. And how do I leverage that for my own profit, access to power, et cetera? And I think it's, it's really hard to come, like, look at these people in any other light than that. Yeah. And there's no fucking help either. It's not like, oh, I'm going to call customers. There's no customer service anymore. It's all shit chatbots.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Yeah, it's like, hey, just hopefully you'll quit before what you sue us and then we'll, you know, it'll cost you all this money. Right. Like it's just a fucking total nightmare. Sorry. It's a nightmare. Yeah. Oh, no. No.
Starting point is 00:41:22 It's, I mean, I, I, I just can't believe, like, we're seeing this. I never understand, like, what the joy is for these people. I mean, I know, I guess, like, just the joy of control. But, and the joy of control, the joy of power, you know, that's all. But, but I mean, like, oh, do you mean the fans of these people? The fans of these people are just desperately, like, that's basically a breadline. Some people who just want to be close to these people because they just want to be perceived as on their side. So when they're passing out the food rations, they get some too.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I mean, I think, you know, I mean, I don't think they see it that way. They see it themselves as fans, but it's much different. It's much more a dystopian than that. This is, we're not seeing fandom of these people because these people are objectively stealing everyone's livelihood. And if you're a fan of them, you know, you're not thinking straight. But you think you are. You're like, oh, yeah, like, I'm down with this. I mean, it's just being down with your oppressor because you just are hoping you'll be the exception.
Starting point is 00:42:19 You'll be on the, you'll be on, your name will be on the protective scrolls. They won't freeze your bank account. Your name won't. Yeah. Because it's really like now they can show a picture to a drone and that drone can, you know, decide whether it wants to fucking. shoot you or turn off your bank account. Obviously, a drone wouldn't have to be involved in turning off your bank account. No, no, they have those drones now.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Or give you tickets to the next metallic concert. A drone did it. We were in here. We had our drone that turns off and on the No King's account and it was flying around and we had it set on just fly around, but it went on its own and it shut it off. And then by the time we got it untangled from the ceiling fan, it just took us a while. So we did get it back on.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Yeah. Holy shit. All right. Nice life. You're like, weir, right. Nice fucking life. You guys have created for us.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Yeah. Yeah. We're living in your fucking dumb nightmare. And for yourselves. Like, I mean, that's really, what's the joy in it for anybody?
Starting point is 00:43:12 I mean, and you look at Elon Musk, he's obviously miserable. I mean, on the top, you pick a line up of people who's happy and who's miserable. Elon Musk is not happy.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Number one at the top. All right, let's take a break. When we come back, let's catch up with some pop culture things because a few things happened. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:44:03 If there's a million times more digital intelligence than there is biological intelligence, it's hard to imagine humans being in control in that scenario. I'm Walter Isaacson, host of the new podcast, The Builders. Right now, we're living through an AI arms race. So I went directly to the people shaping that future. Elon Musk, Dario Amade, Alex Carr, Faye, Faye, Faye Leaphe Lee, Palmer Lucky. Because I wanted to understand what the most consequential builders believe, what they fear and where they think this is all headed.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Silicon Valley is always saying the cliche thing about the way to predict the future is to create it. Well, yeah, it's up to us. But when you say us, who's us? Is it 400 people that you know in Silicon Valley? Is it me down here in New Orleans? They're brilliant, controversial, and they're already shaping the future. The question is, whose imagination do we want to live in? This is going to determine the fate of nations and economies and the future of humanity.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Listen to the builders on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hamza. And I'm Martin. And we're the hosts of Out of Character. It's a podcast. I know. There's a lot of them to listen to these days. How are you going to get to us?
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Starting point is 00:47:36 I'm Bridget Armstrong. Last season, we took you inside the world of America's next top model. Now I'm back with season two of this podcast, Curse of Miss America, investigating the rise, fall, and uncertain future of one of America's most iconic institutions. The Miss America pageant. I never received scholarship money to pay for my student loans. He looks and he goes, you don't look like you suffered in a evening. disorder. It's gray, but looks too ethnic.
Starting point is 00:48:08 It's a story the Miss America organization really doesn't want us to tell. An exploitation of our Miss America's is treated by the Miss America organization as an attack on Miss America itself. Listen to the curse of Miss America on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. And, man, first of all, this is just a story about the fact that we, uh, We've been doing this show for way too long.
Starting point is 00:48:49 The story was four years ago. Really? Really? Yeah. Oh. Yeah. I just remember at the time, it was just like one of those things. It was kind of like this love story too.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Right. Like, they love each other though. It was just funny. As a nation did the K-I-S-I-N-G. Oh, T-J and Amy sitting in a tree. So again, yes, this is the story about the Good Morning America anchors, T-J Holmes and Amy Roboc. They were married at the time.
Starting point is 00:49:19 And they said they had great chemistry. Not to one another. To the Bloids. Frigin outed them as a couple. And they went public. And then everyone was like, Oh, wow,
Starting point is 00:49:29 they're together. People loved it. People loved it. People loved it. People loved it. And there was no, I'm not sure if it was necessarily like a salacious affair. If they were like legally married or whatever,
Starting point is 00:49:40 regardless. Yeah. I have a feeling when you're married with another person, it's probably not the best situation. for the other spouse. So now we're hearing something out of a TV show. Their exes are now about to get married. What?
Starting point is 00:49:56 So Amy Robox X, Melrose Play star, Andrew Shue, yes, brother of Elizabeth Shoe, if you had to ask. And Marilee Fibig, who was T.J. Holmes's ex, are now officially engaged. Wow. Now, T.J. and Amy, they just got married last, like last month or some shit. But this is what Andrew Shoe had to say. he's very grateful and hopeful about the engagement
Starting point is 00:50:20 and said that after growing closest friends, he and Marily have found their, quote, happy ending together as they plan their wedding. National Nutte. Oh, boy. There is. Damn it. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:50:31 We were almost a news show. Now we're back to Morning Zoo. He's a member of Cobra Kai. Oh, shit. Andrew Shoe? Andrew Shoe was apparently. He was a heater from Cobra Kai. Oh.
Starting point is 00:50:43 I mean, they're a good-looking couple, though. They are a couple. They look great. They're kind of hotter than T.J. and Amy. They are. I actually think so, yeah. I'm happy for everybody involved. Do you think the exes get invited to the wedding?
Starting point is 00:50:57 I don't know. Yeah, where are we on speaking terms? We're all just good. You know, what if, what about that? This is him and Cobra Coy. He's not one of the main blondies. He's just kind of a background Cobra Cuy. Jack, that could be your.
Starting point is 00:51:11 That could be me. Oh, wow. You should get a black karate guy one year. Cut the sleeves off, dude. Cobra Kai. I like over laugh because I already have one. Yeah, I'll get one next year or something.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Oh, yeah. Definitely don't already have one. Sweat stands under the arms. Are you okay? Yeah, but I feel like I see stories like this. You hear about like, oh, people ended up with the other person's spouse, but it's usually like elderly people.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yeah. They're like, we were the four best friends until our partners died. Yeah. And then we are now together. And then rather than going through the process of meeting someone new, we just figured why not?
Starting point is 00:51:50 Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think the best example, the most famous example, there were two Yankees pitchers who were pitchers on the same rotation for the Yankees in the late or early 70s, and they, their families hung out together all the time. That starts.
Starting point is 00:52:09 That's happened. Exactly. So this is a lesson to anyone, okay? That's why our wives don't ask too much. Exactly. She's like, are you worried about Miles and Jack? You got to have an Ugo couple friend. That's how you keep it.
Starting point is 00:52:24 That's how you keep a good. No, don't hang on your podcast, host friends. No, no, no. Widely known for trading families with teammate Mike Kekich in the early 1970s, pronounced Kukkich. And it should be because it's kind of wild. I always heard the story that they switched, but it was really like, it's clearly this one couple wanted it,
Starting point is 00:52:45 And the other couple was just like, okay. They didn't stay together for more than a couple weeks, the other couple. That's a lot of trauma bonding, not really. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The couple that, like, lasted to, like, old age was, like a guy who was an all-star pitcher. And so he basically was like, hey, I think we should trade wives to the guy who, after they traded wives, he was traded away like that season. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:53:14 It went south. Wow. Wait, I don't understand. That's how it was just, it was just a proposal? He's like, hey, bro, what if we don't know exactly what happened? What we know is they came to spring training in March, 1973, and announced that they were trading wives and children. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Are they just so it to get the wives to go along with it? Are they so sports-brained? We're like, yeah, we're doing a draft. Yeah. Yeah, there's a bracket system for which wife. She's like, first big, I'm actually going to take your son, dude. He seems pretty cool. No, you're cool, too, junior.
Starting point is 00:53:52 You're cool, too, junior. Look, if you're around in the next, if you're around in the next round, I'll definitely, I'll think about you. The stats on this kid, though. Yeah. Peterson and the former Susan Kekich remained married, but the relationship between Kekich and Marilyn Peterson only lasted a few months. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:54:08 The kids were just had to be given back to the store, I guess. I don't know. Did they have a receipt? By June, the Yankees traded Kekich. Oh, man. So Peterson, like, must just be world-class, like, sociopaths. Because he got, he was like, okay, I get your wife, I get your kids, and then I go to the Yankees and I'm like, that didn't actually work out. I mean, now it's kind of awkward for me to be around him.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And the Yankees were like, yeah, get this deadbeat out of here. Feeling like that's where I'm kind of in a slump right now because he's around. It's kind of freaking me out. Did they go to the World Series that year is the question? Like how, what's his record look like after the switch? Because this could just be like a super, maybe it's a superstitious thing. Oh, yeah, baseball players are super superstitious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:57 They finished second in the A.L. East in 1970s. Not good enough. Wait, what season was this, you said? This was 73. Oh, 73. Mm-hmm. They finished fourth in the A.L. East. Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Yeah. Not worth it. Not worth it. I wonder why. Like you hear about, you know, clubhouse problems. I can't imagine why this would have caused any. What's like Peterson's explanation? Oh, Miles, it's actually a pretty beautiful story, according to Peterson.
Starting point is 00:55:23 A quote, it's a love story. It wasn't anything dirty. Peterson told a reporter on 2013. Yeah. I could not be happier with anybody in the world. Mama and I go out and party every night. No. We're still on the honeymoon and it has been a real blessing.
Starting point is 00:55:41 That's in 2013. That's in 2013. He is like. It's a love story. Yeah. Have you seen I think you should leave? I basically did the relationship equivalent of, give me that. Give me that.
Starting point is 00:55:53 My wife? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You got my wife, please. You want a bite of mine? A bite? No, no.
Starting point is 00:56:03 You get out of here. Is Mike Kekich okay and the other lady? Are they okay? That's a tough one. Yeah. Family style. You're doing a, do it. You're doing a relationship spooko de Beppo style.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Oh, my God. In 74, he went to Japan to play baseball. Damn, man. Oh, man. You come over with your family, and they're like, oh, have you dined with us before? We do things a little bit differently here. I get your wife and kids.
Starting point is 00:56:26 We do things different. Give me that. What? You could have mine if you want, but you probably don't. But, you know, if you want, I'm a little bit tired of them. Wow. Oh, so first he went to Cleveland, then he went to Japan. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:39 I mean. Yeah. You love to see it. You do love your Fritz Peterson. Yeah. We were actually talking about the famous show Wife Swap for some reason. And Super Producer Justin was pointed out that there was a Chappelle show sketch called SpouseWap. Trading Spouse.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Trading Spouses. Trading Spouses. And that actually came before the TV show Wife Swap. Somebody saw that and was like, let's do that. Wait a second. I wonder if like the trading spaces, people were like, they're like, their first. The first idea was wife swap and then like, let's ease the public into this concept. What if people switched rooms in their houses to design?
Starting point is 00:57:18 And then we'll get up to that. Yeah. Yeah, there's an era of reality TV that was more, so much more unhinged. They were like human rights violations, basically. And also, like, the way they were produced. I had a friend who, like, worked on Elimidate. Do you remember that one? Oh, yeah, that was that MTV one, right?
Starting point is 00:57:34 Yeah, no, no, no, a limitade. It's a truck full of suitors, right? It was like a truck full of them, right? Yeah. A limit, and it would go, a limit day. And yeah, exactly, they'd come out of a bus. Yeah. I think you're thinking of next.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Next. MTV's next, I believe, because let me use my stupid memory for that one. That all of those shows at the time, like shipmates, do you remember shipmates where they would put a blind date couple on a fucking cruise ship? Wow. And then just feed them fucking alcohol and like let the, let shit just completely devolve on camera. Like where you would see, like, looking from our perspective now, like, this guy's like an abusive fucking freak who's, like, losing it because he thought like this one was going to hook up with him and he's too drunk to like figure it out. Yeah. And that was just like the whole format. I don't know. The guy crashed out on camera.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Drunk. Yeah. Yeah. It's shocking. No one got thrown overboard. That we know. That we know of. That's very true. We know of. Yeah. So much of reality television is like, what if like we got people drunk but didn't acknowledge that they were drunk and just pretended this is how people behave? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Behind the scenes are like, you need more boots? Any more boots? I feel like you're a little thirsty. Yeah. another friend worked on Jersey Shore who used to work on Real World
Starting point is 00:58:43 and I remember she was saying that that first season they were so used to the production culture of boozing up your cast people to get them to do shit on camera she was like this was the first show we didn't do a single fucking thing like in terms of- and they were like hey we're about to go to this other place
Starting point is 00:59:02 and like what I thought you guys were hanging out like no no we're going up like shit okay we got the camera crew together and they're like they were fucking moving barely keep up. They couldn't keep up with the fucking Jersey Shorecast people. They were natural. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:15 They knew. They were in their element. They were in their element. Man, well, congrats to the happy newish couple. Yeah. You know, I hope they go the distance. I do too. If anything out of spite.
Starting point is 00:59:26 If anything, just how much, like that is a good interview question. Like, how, like some of it is spite? Yeah. You're like 5%? Is it 40%? Yeah. Like, what, how much of it is you picturing the other couple in your head as? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:59:39 I think that's hard to stop at a certain point, you know. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. Or if they're like, who it's actually none of that. Like we don't think about that at all. Like they don't know, they don't realize that that's what it's about. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Or the Good Morning America. I don't watch the show. Are they still the host? No, no, no. Oh, okay. They moved on. Yeah. I think they were fired for it, right?
Starting point is 01:00:02 Or like one of them was. Yeah, it could have been. It feels like you're crazy. It was treated like a scandal in a way that I was like, well, not. Really? According to them, they said functionally, they were all saying, like, the marriages were pretty much over. Sure, sure. So it wasn't like, that's why these couples are not being like, they're cheating pieces of shit.
Starting point is 01:00:20 They were just like, yeah, shit was fucking cooked anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say this. He did say, this is what Andrew Shoe said, quote, I had to accept my own part in marriage not working out for me. And is, and like in not understanding myself well enough and not understanding what matters in a relationship well enough to find the right person for me. And that has been an extraordinary gift. I had to grow through a lot of pain and a lot of struggle and a lot of humility. I think the magic of love is when you go from a need to giving.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Hey, that's a man. That's been just some therapy. Yeah. Yeah. So like it feels very like everyone's kind of like, yeah, all as well. It ends well pretty much. Good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:52 You know, good for everybody. And I'm saying, bro, this is this is the hotter couple, man. Yeah. You guys are killing it. You guys are killing it. This is what it should have been. I will say the story update that I'm waiting for is the wife of the guy from the Coldplay concert.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Yeah. Oh, hooking up with Chris Martin from Coldplay. Oh. That would be. That's a fun full circle. That would be a lot of fun with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I'm doing the Britney Broski to that one. Yeah. Okay. National Nut Day and D. Yeah. And finally, continued fallout. From the hit movie,
Starting point is 01:01:31 you can see everything. Oh, yeah. Have you seen it? No, no, I've been. Never mind. No, I've read a lot.
Starting point is 01:01:38 lot of bad. I just haven't had three hours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, it's worth your three hours. Yeah, yeah. We've moved to the next phase of this being like a culture phenomenon. Yeah, it's going to be, it's one of the top couples costumes for Halloween costumes this year. I don't think about that. Nathan Fielder and Elizabeth Holmes, which people are set. You could always go as Billy Evans and Pamela Henderson, which is a reference that you don't get, but not yet. Not yet, but you will and you'll love it.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Our writer, Jan was pointing out that, like, I think people are just going with black turtleneck, bright red lip for Elizabeth Holmes. Yeah. But for Nathan, the thing that you really need to lock down is that $7.99-Hamilton Bull schoolmate headphones. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Wow, people, they got the exact model. I had this in the back of my mind, the whole movie. He's, so he's like listening to the audio that they're getting the whole time. So he has these headphones on the whole time. And they look like the oldest, like the ones that are made out of that cheap black foam. Okay. Yeah, yeah. It has a lot in common with the sock they give you when you're trying on shoes at the, like, really cheap.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Oh, fully disposed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I was assuming that like that can't be what it, that it has to be like some expensive piece of sound equipment that he's, that just looks like that. I have a feeling like if it's like the sound guy who's providing it.
Starting point is 01:03:07 it's probably part of like a whole kit for that whole wireless setup for him to have the monitor that like the guy with the cans is like, dude, I blow through these fucking things constantly. I'm not going to fucking spend 100 bucks. Like I get them for eight. They don't need to be super high fidelity. Yeah. They get the job done. Thank you Hamilton Bull. School mate head phone.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Yeah, it's like a waitress with a pen. You borrow it. They lose it. They're like, no. I'm not getting the good stuff. You're just getting the cheap shit. This is a fucking bick full. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I have fun with it. Also, multiple lookalike contests being held in New York. A La Timothy Chalmay contest. New York is the fucking, like, capital of lookalikes. Impromptu lookalike contest. Is it in Washington Square Park? Like all of them are? It is in Washington Square Park.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I imagine so. 1 p.m. Sunday, October 25th in Washington Square Park. Elizabeth Holmes, Nathan Fielder lookalike contest. And then there's also just Nathan Fielder lookalike contest happening. I'm just really excited for all the guys that are going prematurely gray to just really have their season. Lean. Let's go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:06 It's always look good. but now you're even more validated. It's great. Yeah, I feel like Brent Weinbach kind of looks like Nathan. Yeah, he could do well for sure. I mean, he's got his own thing going. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Obviously, but, you know. Yeah, I think Nathan Fielder should enter Brent Weinbach. Uh-huh. Let's talk about that. Yep. What about that maybe? Yeah, Nathan, you too good?
Starting point is 01:04:25 What's going on? I feel like he's going to show up to these himself. Yeah, probably. If anything, this was put on by Nathan Fielder. That's like a larger sci-op. Yeah. And he's just like, he's going to be in the shadows like this. How many times he's thinking the CIA has approached him and been like, hey,
Starting point is 01:04:41 yeah. Would you be interested? He's like, no, I'm Canadian. We love the way your mind works. Yeah. We have a little bit of that juice. Yeah. It would be really interesting.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Oh, man. He's like, what would you have done with Gaddafi? Yeah, yeah. Just kind of like, I'm kind of big. I'm going to see how you think about stuff. How do we know he wasn't already? How do we know that Venezuela was not just a like buzz marketing campaign for that sweatsuit, you know?
Starting point is 01:05:05 I mean, honestly, it could. I don't put anything faster. The Nathan Fielder episode, he goes to a struggling Nike. Yeah. And he's like, and the challenge, get the Nike tech suit trending again. And he's like, okay, we're going to take Maduro and you put him in a Nike tech suit. Send him 20 of these for free. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Yeah. Just see. Just see. I mean, then it also lost all of its fucking cool factor when like fucking Ted Cruz and those other joker started wearing tech suits to be like, hey, look, my fucking. Well, not all of his schemes of work. That's true. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:36 We don't know about the graveyard of failed schemes that he's got going on. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure there's for every, for every episode that we see, there had to have been like three to five threads that just completely went dry on them. They're like, yeah, we can't.
Starting point is 01:05:49 This isn't going to go anywhere. Yeah. There are these like series of billboards that play into you can see everything that I remember driving to a recording, taking pictures of and being like, what the fuck is this like a Nathan Fielder scheme? The like founders? inventors.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so weird that it did end up tying in. And then you end up finding out in a very weird way. Again, check out. Check it out if you've got three hours. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Yeah. All right.
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