The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 49 (Best of 11/5/18-11/9/18)

Episode Date: November 11, 2018

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These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah, so without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. What is something you think is overrated? Okay, you know I love this part. I know I love overrated, underrated. So. Larissa from 90 Day Fiancé.

No, I'm joking. Anyway, let's. No. Stop. Nope, that's another show. Don't get me started. Okay, so I think that what's overrated is, like, backlashers, you know? Like, people today were posting all of these selfies

with their I Voted stickers. And then, of course, I was like, how many seconds till the first backlasher posted their little, oh, I'm an edgelord status word. No, where they're like, oh, I love how we reward ourselves for doing the basic minimum of democracy. Oh, wow. By posting us, oh, narcissism combined with democracy, that is so American.

And I was like, Jesus fucking Christ. Just shut the fuck up. The people have to come. You know, the haters. Can we enjoy this? I think what you're calling that is actually called haters. But it is a very specific thing where it's like they get the very front end of a trend that is just a positive thing and just have to jump in.

Like what's the contrarian angle I can take on a thing that everyone is just appreciating and enjoying right now? It annoys me that it becomes a thing. For example, people talking about the doors sucking. I'm like, objectively, they're a fucking great band. Yeah, they're fine.

You just don't like them. You don't have to like them. That's fine. But to just be like, suddenly, they're trash. Oh, they fucking suck. Yeah. It's just like the back the backlashers for the sake of being a hater there's a lot of doors hate in this building people don't know very close band to my family I love them

I think they're a great band when you're a certain age wow dude I'll straight up stand for sublime oh I'll stand for sublime. Oh, I'll stand for Old Rally all day. Fuck you. I was just at a 311 concert, okay? I can't be stopped.

It's a good-ass band. I feel like the Backlasher is a social media thing that has taken the place of what used to be newspaper columnists. Newspaper columnists used to be like, what's the deal? Like the Andy Rooney's of the world. Now, why do we have to have these stickers? That is a take you would normally get back in the day on the life and style section of the fucking USA Today or whatever. I feel like it's almost like the 90s turned up to an 11. We were all into Chandler and we were like Daria.

We were like, oh, sarcasm. That's the way. Right, right. And now it's come back like as like a horrible deformed monster where it's just. Just, yeah. Just like haterate. Cynic source. Yeah.

Just horrible. Cynic source. So, yeah. So that kind of. I love that. I love that overrated. What is your underrated? My underrated is liking things a medium amount.

Okay. Because I think that's what's been lost in this going black and white about anything all the time. And these headlines and people going for clicks by being like, this is the greatest thing. Or this is the worst thing. Fucking sucks. Yeah, and I hate that. Sorry, I don't. I dislike it.

It's fine. Mildly. Even as you do this, like, oh, God. I'm doing it right now. I can't feel strongly about anything. Yeah, yeah. Most things are fine. No, here's the thing.

No, I think we can feel strongly about things, but I think, like, that Haunted Hill show right now that everybody's talking about i watched it i feel a medium amount about it right yeah i feel like it was good it was fine yeah but i can't post that because like people are gonna be like are you kidding me that was the best thing i've ever seen i killed my mother right after seeing it and guess what didn't care at all it felt great that didn't even compare to the shit i saw on the net yeah and now it's just like i just want to be able to like things a medium amount and then when we talk about things for me to be like yeah that was okay and people are like you know what

you're right that was okay you know just let allow people to have their opinions you know if they don't like it full bore like you then whatever like that doesn't make that doesn't make your point less valid or theirs. I think people just look at it in this comparative way. I think it dumbs down the level of our cultural discourse. That's really why I don't like it. Because I would like to be able to talk about a movie or a person or an opinion and say, hey, I think so-and-so's politics on this are great,

but I think that is pretty problematic. Instead of every headline being like, this person is a pile of garbage, or this person is a saint who inevitably is going to become a piece of garbage next week when you find out something from their browser history that you are disappointed in. Right. And I just really want to be able for us to just be realistic and to remember that. Video game fans who are notoriously even measured

basically threatened to kill someone for giving Red Dead Redemption 2 an OK score. They were like, it's good. No, that was bullshit, man. People got real mad about that. I was pissed off. They were like, it's good. No, that was bullshit, man. Yeah, people got real mad about that. I was pissed off. They were like, this is the asshole who's bringing down the meta score?

Exactly. I told them, I was like, yo, if when I see you it's ugly, my man, you could bet that. It's on site. It's like that stupid Yelp reviewer where you go and you're like, oh, this restaurant has all five star reviews,

but there's this one star and you read it and it's like, it started on December 4th, 1982, when my daughter was born. And then you keep scrolling, and they're like, we came there for her graduation. They were not able to accommodate her aloe vera allergy. One star. And you're like, what the fuck? Well, so many of those Yelp reviews are just people having bad days.

Yes, dude, get a hug instead of writing this. Or someone's like, oh, you tried to set up a date for your girlfriend and you fucked up earlier in the night and y'all were still mad, so your Yelp review is about how they fucked up your anniversary when the problem was you panic booked this restaurant because you forgot my name yeah 100 your use of the word accommodate in your uh fake yelp review is so on point they use accommodate like five times in every review

the chronic yelp reviewer they would care about their customers they would not accommodate they don't i guess the customer is wrong in this instance. Or it'll be like something you could never expect from where they're at. They'll go to a concert and there's porter parties and they'll be like, what do you mean? The porter party smelled like someone had pooped in a hole. Yeah, bitch, someone just pooped in a hole. What were you thinking was going to happen? We're going to talk about the elections

that are happening tomorrow. The New York Times kind of did a recap of where we're at with the House and they acknowledged up top it was on their podcast the Daily or Daily? I don't know.

Michael Burberry? Not familiar't know. Michael Burberry? Not familiar. Yeah, Michael Burberry. Some third-rate podcast. Yeah, some third-rate podcast, some third-rate daily news podcast, where they acknowledged up top that we had it wrong.

We said 85% chance that Hillary wins heading into things, and people were just like, well, that's pretty good. We win. Yeah. And didn't bother to vote enough. But their polling expert pointed out that if you're just like looking at the live odds in a

sporting event, an American football team that has a one touchdown lead going into the fourth quarter has an 85% chance of winning. Like you wouldn't turn that game off. You'd be like, oh shit, this is going to be a good finish. So that's about actually where the Democrats are when it comes to taking the House. They're at about 85% on 538. And the poll expert was breaking it down that the Democrats need 23 Republican seats. They need to take away 23 Republican seats in order to win control of the House. And he said they're comfortable in about 12. And then there are these 30 that are too close to call, and they're not getting any more Democratic as we approach the election. Now, that might sound like, okay, well, the odds are in Democrats' favor because,

Now, that might sound like, OK, well, the odds are in Democrats' favor because, you know, let's say they're all toss ups. It'll go 50-50. That's still enough to get to 23. Except he pointed out that's not how national House elections work a lot of the time. The too close to calls all tend to break in one direction or the other because they're all reacting to the same stimulus and the same trends. So, that begs the question, what trends may they be reacting to this election? And they kind of gave their ideas and they still made it sound like a toss up, but I just feel like worst case, but very realistic scenario, and the one that I find the most convincing is that this Trump fear-mongering

and like race baiting and just like swinging the wedge issues around like an axe murderer uh have probably worked like they've successfully recreated the conditions of 2016 the kavanaugh thing basically recreated the protect our white men way of life, fuck me too thing that the Access Hollywood tapes did. And Trump has brought back all of the racist stuff and the immigration stuff. And arguably, he's been more successful this time because he is the president now. And back then, we were like, ah, he's just some hack who's going to get, you know, swept in a landslide. But Republicans are going to vote. There was a point where people were like, it's going to be a blue wave because Republicans aren't engaged. I think Republicans

are going to vote in unprecedented numbers, like for an election where they have the White House. And it's because no major American figure has been this openly racist and shamelessly populist and just shamelessly shameless in the history of our culture. And his approval rating is rebounding everywhere. And I don't know, Republicans are going to turn the fuck out, possibly in unprecedented numbers. And it just comes down to the Democrats, like whether Democratic voters are also going to turn out in unprecedented numbers and it just comes down to the Democrats like whether Democratic voters are also going to turn out in unprecedented numbers and it really comes down to Millennials to be honest because they're just at the point where millennials Jack yeah that's right you guys told me I'm

okay I'm on the cusp I'm 80 I So you're back, okay. I'm 80. I'm back with Gen X. We'll see if you guys fuck this up. All right, Pepsi, generation next over here. That's right. But millennials are just passing baby boomers for having more adults in the world than baby boomers. And it's there for the taking. Right. And like it's there for the taking.

Right. But there's a poll that says 30 percent, like one third of millennials say they're definitely going to vote. Yeah. Which isn't enough. Well, 80 percent of millennials have shit follow through. Exactly. Yeah. You can say all that shit you want to me. Get your ass to the polls.

A third is not good. Like a third is not enough. Like they need to show out in huge numbers. So I don't know, man, I think this is not necessarily going to go in the direction that everybody was thinking. And that even we were thinking in like a few weeks, I mean, we'll only know till we know, you know, like, I think we'll only know till we know. Right. I'm optimistic that I think in certain races, people are very motivated. I think in other places, maybe not so much, but there's definitely, there's energy on both sides. That's for sure. And it's,

it's only slowly ramped up on the right, but I think even to the point about the, all the, uh, toss up races, I mean, the fact that those are even tight is a good sign because a lot of those seats were like solidly red seats. And the thing to look into that means that there's some kind of shift happening there. Hopefully it breaks the way we need it to. But yeah, I think there's another thing that kind of gets lost in that analysis about a lot of those seats is like, I don't know if we talked about this, but like there was a Washington Post poll that was like, oh, it's things are getting tight. We don't know about those blue wave thing. But they were analyzing, I think something like 69 different toss up districts. And they were

noting that like 61 of those were solidly Republican ones that were becoming more blue. Right. So, you know, hopefully there is that momentum can carry through. But yeah, I think the bottom line is complacency is not going to help anybody. Yeah. And like the to begin with, the election map was really unfavorable to Democrats just overall. So even though we're seeing a shift towards some counties turning blue, it's still not necessarily going to shift all the way blue just because they got bluer. And I just feel like the stuff that our listeners are seeing in the mainstream media that we're seeing that we

were saying Pence took an L with the Oprah thing but that's being circulated on their side as just like a total fucking win for Pence and Trump and the right because he said this isn't Hollywood because he said this isn't Hollywood A. I don't really

trust polls because how are they getting their information because he said this isn't Hollywood. How do you feel about that? Fuck yeah. A, I don't really trust polls. Yeah, right. Because how are they getting their information? Are they calling voters? Are they knocking on doors? And then B, I'm really thinking about redistricting and census and the long term because the reason why these districts are so red

is because of how redistricting happened in 2010. And now we're facing the 2020 election, so there's going to be redistricting after after that there's all this work being done to dissuade immigrant voters from doing from signing up for census they're trying to like make people who are i think immigration is up to be written down for census like your immigration status right like asking the citizenship question on the census right and. And so all these, I think we do have a lot riding tomorrow, but I do think that we need to take a bigger step back and look at the system that's in place

that's keeping the Republicans in power and how these precincts have been chopped up. And that's kind of the bigger fight that we need to fight. That and also like how voters are being purged from the rolls, which is another one. Yeah, and I think that's why we also reiterate, don't just vote for those big ticket items.

Don't just vote for your senators and congresspeople. Vote for the secretary of states and attorney generals and your local politicians too and your state legislatures because those are the people who are actually going, those are the people who have a little more power, the most power in terms of redistricting and things like that and who you select to put in the governor's house as well. So, yeah.

Well, let's talk about this doctored video then that the White House released to justify their bullshit about Jim Acosta. Yeah. So let's talk about the context. This is at Trump's just ranting press conference where he started out as a mafia don and transitioned to WWE villain. Oh, got a comedian here. Yeah. He literally said, oh, we got a comedian here.

Did he? Yeah. Really? Who are you with? Yahoo. Okay. Yahoo, you guys doing? Hope you guys are doing well.

All right. Like, it was just a total fuck. How about you, AOL? Yeah, what about you, AOL? What's going on in carta you read about this i mean he's good he's a good bully like oh yeah in terms of being a bully he is good at it nick and i were watching the press conference and we were laughing because on one hand it was such masterful like new york asshole bullying but then you're disheartened

when it's like the president and it's trump and it's not a sketch on snl, but then you're disheartened when it's like the president and it's Trump and it's not a sketch on SNL. And then we're like, oh fuck. But also, hey man, I like that comedian over here line. Yahoo, okay. Okay. It was almost impressive responding to that question of do you think your messaging has incited racism?

To respond to that with that's a racist, is truly the most horrifying and accurate definition of gaslighting and just bullying. Flipping it on them. Maybe you're racist. What? I just said, you call yourself a nationalist, and that might embolden white nationalists. Oh, that's racist. They're racist. I'm not racist.

You're racist. You're black, so you're racist. That's what racist means. So yeah. So, yeah. Anyway, that press conference got heated. We saw Yamiche Alcindor, who was the one who had that little interaction, and then Jim Acosta, who, you know, he always has his moments with the president. He went big. Yeah, he went big.

He swung for the stands. We could tell. It looked like he was trying to get our boy, old orange hair, to fuck up. But at one point, a White House aide came up and tried to remove the microphone from him and first reached for it and he was just kind of like, no, no, no, I'm still rocking the mic. And she did it again and he was like, no. And then she put her

hand on the mic and he kind of just turned away and was just like, no, I got this. Pushed her hand away. And nothing in any way that people in the room were like, oh my god, what the fuck did Jim just do? Yeah, nobody thought it was. It looked like it was like if you're playing keep away from a child.

Right. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no. Right. Well, get the fuck back. I got the mic right now. I call timeout. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, during that press conference, I think Trump said he was like an awful, terrible human being, as my voice cracks.

And like shouldn't is a disgrace to CNN or whatever. human being as my voice cracks uh and like shouldn't is a disgrace to cnn or whatever and then later that day we found out that the white house had revoked his press credentials had taken away his white house hard pass to basically say like man you're not even coming near this motherfucker anymore like see you later right uh and everyone was like this is like what is going on it was overreaction yeah it seems so transparent based on what had happened earlier he clearly him and jim mcc Jim Acosta just, they get fired together. And then so after initially people were asking like, what the fuck was that about? Whatever.

Sarah Sanders tweets out this video about, you know, they created this narrative about how he had attacked a White House aide and put his hands on her or whatever. And she tweets out a video where, you know, it looked like he not really hit her or anything, but kind of just did a very short karate chop or something to be like, look at the way you go from my mic. Yeah, it was violent. It looked violent, or at least more violent than what happened. Yeah. I mean, I guess more the speed was fast.

I don't know if it was violent, but she was saying, look at this video, and I think there's no reason to argue what had happened. saying, look at this video, and I think there's no reason to argue what had happened. However, that video has been fucking altered, edited, and sped up to make it look much more severe than it was. And then so now, you know how the internet is, especially Twitter, all the Twitter detectives come out, all kinds of side-by-side videos came out of all the discrepancies of timing and things like that, and it was clear that it was doctored. So they just sped up the part where his hand goes down.

Yeah, just to make it look like he was hitting her. And they added him going, and then her arm came off and blood. I don't know if you remember. They added the blood. And kill Bill, you know, when she goes wild, the blood just sprayed all over the East room. Yeah.

And so again, it was just a really odd thing. And now, yeah, we're at that point where the White House is going to use doctored evidence to try and restrict the access of a journalist. No. No. This is fucking horseshit. I mean, like, super scary only because, like, it was such a subtle edit. But it, like, changes the color so much.

Yeah. It's just, like, if you had shown the real video to anyone and like preconceived biases aside, if you had no political affiliation, I think everyone would agree. I would be confident that everyone would agree. Nothing went wrong there. Right. But then just the slightly faster chop

makes it seem so much more like aggravated and pointed at the White House. I mean, look, if attempted rape is horseplay, then that ain't shit. Yeah. Yeah.

So let's be real. Like, look at your own overton window republicans you know what i mean like that is not even close but again a lot of people came out the white house uh correspondence association was like this is we absolutely reject this decision from the white house they need to take it back they need to recredential him cnn was like we need to boycott the white house and that's all well, I understand what you're saying. But in the Washington Post, I think it was Jennifer Rubin had an interesting

point of like, you know, don't just say that you oppose this decision, sue the White House, because they're actually infringing upon his First Amendment rights. He's not doing anything. He's doing his job in the capacity of a journalism, asking a question, and then they're going to retaliate by cutting off his access and thereby you know hindering his ability to have any continuity to his job and i think that is a thing that has to be looked at more is like we're now we're looking at people's rights being violated it's not just oh he doesn't like jim acosta you're not allowed at the party anymore they should let him like there's i don't understand this idea or why at least we're not making a bigger point of like what they're doing.

And also Sarah Sanders in her capacity as a White House press secretary. You know, they all take an oath of office. These people, they work for the American people. And to then begin using altered video to try and obscure their own misbehavior, their own misdeeds and transgressions. That is a fucking it's an abomination, for lack of a better word. It's a very, like, Soviet Russia did it a lot. Like, they were actually at the forefront of Photoshopping

because Stalin always wanted people he killed Photoshopped out of pictures. So they were really good at, like, just getting rid of people from pictures. And then Putin has had people removed from interviews like from interview shows basically that like when they re-ran that person was just gone from from the set of the show so it's very much russian behavior and now they're basically just trying to photoshop jim acosta out of all future press conferences i guess for a video i guess

we'll switch to premiere right they're premiering yeah yeah out of all future press conferences. Well, I guess for a video, I guess we'll switch to premiere. Right. They're premiering him out of, but this is the same thing. The White House does this too with official transcripts, altering transcripts too. So after the fact, you're looking like, wait, hold on. These whole lines of questions are missing because they're trying to completely alter history. And I think it's a shame that this is happening.

And to see someone from the White House sort of distributing altered footage to not allow us to have, you know, we already have a problem with people agreeing on what is factual in this country. So to perpetuate that in their capacity in the White House, I think is fucking criminal. I think there's also like there's a slight gendering of it, too. Right. Or it's like it's very specific that Jim Acosta is doing this to a female White House. Right. Or it's like it's very specific that Jim Acosta is doing this to a female White House. Right. And so that also like belies like a lack of moral character. That's just so like, oh, man, like you guys don't care about anything. You're just trying to make your point, whatever.

I think, you know what, just just stop going to Sarah's press briefings. Yeah. Yeah. At the very least, because you don't need them. She doesn't say anything that isn't spin. It's all spin and any other thing, that news will come out regardless. Because every time it's just the president does something and then they go, teacher, teacher, teacher, what did he do? And she's like, I don't know shit. Sit the fuck down. I'm going to say some lies.

Like it's fucking useless. It really is completely useless. Yeah, there's no point. It might as well just be like Breitbart and Fox News just in an empty, otherwise empty room. Just being like, that like, yesterday was awesome. That was sick. Fuhrer, I mean, oof. Miss Madam Secretary or whatever you are.

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Yep. Not metal for black people. Not metal for black people. Very dark, yes. The dark shit. Have you ever been to a UK record store where just like rap and R&B are just titled black music? No, really? I swear to God.

I mean, back in like 2000. Oh, cool. What the entire section of a record store, it was called. Was that over at the HMV? Yeah. Right. Well, no, there was a researcher who was trying to figure out like what the appeal was of black metal music, because it's sort of the same thinking of like how violent video games,

people were like, well, these are going to make people violent. Right. So if you listen to black metal, you're probably an aggro murderer. Yeah. Because that's what the thematically what the music is around. So, you know, he decided to kind of do a not the most scientifically sound study because it's a lot of self-reporting, but he got a group of non-black metal fans and a group of black metal fans, self-described black metal fans to take a listen to some tracks and see how they felt after.

And some of the tracks that they were listening to were songs like Slowly We Rot by obituary waiting for the screams by autopsy my wedding song obviously the cannibal corpse fucking classic hammer smashed face yes if you remember in ace ventura the first movie when he goes to a concert when he's meeting the dude uh where he has to do the new england clam chowder code he's at a he's at a metal show that's cannibal corpse playing oh really yeah okay uh anyway so he found that after these people listen to the music that you know the non-fans are like it just sounds like people screaming because they're whiny and hate their parents sort of like they were put off by the music where the actual fans they report experiencing feelings of empowerment joy peace and transcendence uh and so he was, and it wasn't like, it had nothing to do with

anger or tension. They never felt like that at all. And he was sort of scratching his head and was wondering, okay, then like the appeal of it must be sort of that, the fact that the lyrics are so aggressive and pronounced that it's very divisive. So you're either going to love it or you're going to hate it. And he found that a lot of the fans of black metal are already non-conformists. So the fact that people who like it, it helped sort of self-define them a bit more, like they can wear it as a badge of honor. It's like,

yeah, this music appeals to me and I'm not interested in that music. And to him, that's what he thought the appeal was of metal. I mean, it's just, it's just heavy music, you know,

wants your head to explode. There is something about a numbing effect. Right. That might bring on a peaceful feeling that the music is more aggressive, loud, and angry than you could ever be. So therefore, it sort of calms you because you thought you were aggressive and angry, and now you don't feel as much because this music is way more intense than I'm feeling. Especially if you listen to sludge metal. That's slower and way heavier. And those people at those shows aren't violently moshing.

They're more just intensely just headbanging to it. And again, these are sounds that people are custom-making instruments to hit frequencies that are just so low and so heavy that they'll just make your chest cave in at a show. And I mean, they're hearing, they're legitimately, the sound is hitting their brain in a different, it might as well be a different sound than the sound hitting our brain as non-fans. And like, it's just they're processing it differently because they have so much context and they know all the different,

like they know where each note fits within the context of all the other black metal they've heard so uh you can have the same debate though about cardi b in my opinion yeah well cardi b we we happen to be fans of cardi b but i think my brain i think that's yeah so the um it falls on either side yeah i think some people are like what yes I think it's a very divisive. Yeah. Very divisive. I mean, how heavy do you get, Jack? What's the heaviest shit you listen to?

Oh, I don't know. I guess like Guns N' Roses and some Metallica would probably be the heaviest, which is like every fan of black metal just like scoffed. Yeah. Yeah. Kevin, what about you? What's the heaviest music you listen to? What's the heaviest you go? Yeah, it doesn't really register.

It's not on the playlist in any way, shape, or form. I much prefer New Wave from the 80s than the long-haired metal band. There you go. Yeah, way, way, way more. I'll listen to some Torch, some Tar Pit Carnivore. I don't know what that is. Oh, my. Are you making that up?

No, the bassist. No, you're making that up. It kind of says it all. Right. Are you making the Tar Pit Carnivore? Yeah, it's an amazing song. Look, the bassist has a, they just call it the bomb note. I mean, that's evocative.

Tar Pit Carnivore. I'll play for you. It might as well be some like Cormac McCarthy shit. I would write out on it, but if you had headphones, it would, you can't even listen to this properly. Which is what I like in all my music. Yeah. But I just feel like before you talk about any music negatively, just realize that everybody says the music they don't like all sounds the

same. Like basically all negative music criticism all sounds the same. You're all saying the same shit and it's not true in any objective sense so like just well none of it's subjective that's the thing about any art form the most subjective thing

yeah absolutely I don't think less of someone who loves a certain music that I can't listen to a second of it's just not for me well you're not a shitty person, because I think a shitty person has the attitude of like, well, you like this and you're an idiot, so fuck you. I mean, I feel that way about Dodger fans,

but I don't feel that way. What are you, Giants fans? It's nice of you guys to suit up. Full Dodger. And at least go to the World Series, unlike your fans who left in the seventh inning. But anyways. Guys, let's talk about Bohemian Rhapsody.

I feel like this is one of those stories that was in the Zyka, just like in the firmament. I didn't see it this weekend, but I took my two-year-old to Chipotle, and we had just been listening to the song Bohemian Rhapsody in the car, and he was singing Mamma Mia, Mamma Mia. And the person at Chipotle was like, oh, did you see the movie? And it was just one of those organic conversations that just struck up, and he was singing Mama Mia, Mama Mia. And the person at Chipotle was like, oh, did you see the movie? And it was just one of those organic conversations that just struck up.

And she was a 22-year-old, and she was like, oh, Queen's my favorite band. I can't wait to see it. And she was so excited about it. What 22-year-old would have Queen as their favorite? I know. It doesn't make any sense at all. Someone who loves just great singing. If you're like a rock opera kind of person. But I think that's what we're finding out because it dominated at the box office.

I think we're finding out that their reach is. And I kind of found that like it's the band that most connects with my two-year-old son. Like their songs. Well, there was a second coming, don't forget, in 91 because of Wayne's World. And it was possibly even bigger than the first one. That's when I first found out about it. Was that Bohemian Rhapsody in Wayne's World and

then on my tape player for the next five years just constantly and I'm still not tired of it. I remember because when I demanded my mom take me to Music Plus when that was still a place to buy music in LA to buy the tape of the Wayne'sboro soundtrack for that song.

She was like, you're listening to Queen? Yeah. And she was like, I used to tour with them as their translator. I was like, well, yeah, it's back now. The kids love it. Yeah. Wow. But just some classic, great pop songs that we're finding out

are even more timeless than maybe was widely agreed on. But it seems like based on what people have told me, and Kevin, I'm interested to hear your take, that it is sort of Queen's greatest hits, the movie sort of thing? Well, they show how a lot of their biggest, most successful songs came to be. How they were either written or rehearsed or recorded or performed in various stages, which is one of the better storytelling devices to tell the story of a famous band. Yeah. Is to actually show how the fuck did you get to this song or this moment.

And even in the high note, you know, that craziness. There's a moment in the film where they show the recording of the song and in that one singer who was the drummer, according to the movie, is in the booth trying to hit that higher note. And it was just spectacular

how Freddie Mercury just kept saying higher. And he would do one amazingly high, and he'd go, higher. Yeah, the movie was spectacular. I assumed that those vocals were affected or tuned up or sped up or something. Possibly by chemicals, but I don't think by knobs. They weren't messing with the tape. Yeah. knobs. They weren't messing with the tape. Yeah. This movie has an interesting backstory because so at first, Sacha Baron Cohen was connected to play Freddie Mercury.

He actually looks more like him if you think about it. He looks a lot like him. Yeah, totally. And he ended up having some issues, some clashes with the surviving band members. He really wanted to go like full, you know, just hard R version of the story where, you know, you see all of the debauchery that like there, he had a scene in his vision for the movie where little people were walking

around with plates of cocaine on their head because that was apparently a party that Freddie Mercury once attended. But he said this on, I think, the Howard Stern show, that the moment he realized he couldn't move forward was a member of the band. This is a quote. A member of the band, I won't say who, said, you know, this is such a great movie because it's got such an amazing thing that happens in the middle.

And I go, what happens in the middle of the movie? And he goes, you know, Freddy dies. And I go, what happens in the second half of the movie? And he goes, we see how the band carries on from strength to strength. And I said, listen, not one person is going to see a movie where the lead character dies from AIDS and then you see how the band carries on. And that isn't what happens in the movie. Is that correct?

That's not at all what happens. That's not at all. So that's what Sacha Baron Cohen was saying when he was going back and forth with the band. A band member, one of the band members was like, then it's about us for the second half. And we move on from Freddy and our attempt to find a singer who can replace him and failing to do that. He was like, I don't think that's going to work so well. But somebody got to the band and that's not at all how the movie is structured.

One of the criticisms that's coming out, because this, despite being, you know, big commercial success, critics are kind of mixed on it. critics are kind of mixed on it and the treatment of mercury's sexuality has been kind of panned a little bit for like his first homosexual encounter comes when their manager who is sort of the movie's villain suddenly kisses him and then the manager drags him quote-unquote into a world of drugs and gay sex parties and that's kind of part of Mercury's demise. Do you see that kind of criticism? I would say that's a pedestrian review. A pedestrian review. In the sense that the story ultimately reveals when the love of his life, a woman.

Right. Who he was married to. Or he gave her a ring. I don't think they showed an actual wedding. Common law wife. Yeah. when the love of his life, a woman, who he was married to, or he gave her a ring. I don't think they showed an actual wedding. Common law wife. Yeah. It was always referred to,

you are the love of my life all the way through the film story. Oh, really? And then at one point when he says to her in a private moment, I think I might be bisexual, she says without hesitation, Freddie, you're gay. So that helps us to understand that she always knew what was fairly clear from the first time you meet him in the film he's played i wouldn't say completely effeminate but but with a flair right and that flair is not just dramatic or even melodramatic. It's camp.

Right. The way that a gay person who's out and open. Right. Behaves in public. Right. So Freddie, in the film anyways, is portrayed as someone who sort of lives his life that way from the beginning. Interesting.

And then it's kind of clear to everyone that he's gay. But when it is shown in the story of the film of having that kiss i think there was a moment before that actually where he gets eyed up by a man and they exchange expressions and freddie doesn't act on it got it okay so i would i would say that's a very yeah a myopic review of maybe for someone who's looking for something to not like. Right. You have to remember, well, you don't have to remember. Please consider that, again, my issue with everyone having an opinion on the internet. Right.

It also is, you know, film review used to be people who wrote essays. Right. And they were learned individuals on the matter of storytelling. Right. So now that everyone has a blog or an opinion on film, you're going to get fairly pedestrian points of view or very personalized points of view. I find like I don't want to jump into that person's life, but if a gay person saw the film and felt like his homosexuality wasn't represented strong enough, then they would take it as a personal affront because

they, I would say, have an invested interest, if you know what I'm sort of getting at. Yeah, no, I get it. So while I want to appreciate and empathize with what that person experienced when they saw it, I think the film represents a larger picture. Yeah. I mean, and the good thing about sites like Metacritic is that it's sort of a democratization where you can see like a whole spectrum of voices and choose the critics that maybe you

identify with. And I did hear that reviews were mixed, for sure. Yeah, totally mixed. And, you know, it is a film that elicits a great deal of excitement and emotion, and you get caught up in the swirl of what the band went through. Right. From Total Unknowns, Freddie was working baggage at the airport, unloading off of a plane, Rise up through, you know, the formation of the band. You really get caught up in their whirlwind lives. Right, right. And ultimately, the demise of happiness that comes with over-the-top success.

Totally. Yeah. Yeah. One other just thing that people pointed out about it that we probably don't have too much time to get into, but they were saying that his wife his common-law wife mary is somebody who he remained with like through his death and who like nursed him and he left most of his things most of his belongings and uh wealth to her and uh they were saying that he was more he identified as bisexual And so the whole like gay versus bisexual thing is, that is something that I feel like is in the future or in other cultures, we'll look back at the idea that you're either gay or straight as somewhat missing the mark in terms of how people's sexuality actually operates.

Seems like a very individual choice. Yeah, totally. The rest of us need to put a title on it so we feel better about ourselves. Right, exactly. What box are you in? Right. Exactly. I don't like this fluidity of a spectrum.

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that we as Americans don't really recognize in terms of how it operates in our day-to-day lives. And one of the interesting sort of recontextualizations that I took away from that discussion on class was this book talked about how universities and colleges are actually more about socializing you to act in accordance with your class. Like the upper class in America, the gentry class in America. That's the main thing you learn at college, more so than whatever your major is. It gives you friends. It gives you a friend group that is in that upper class. It teaches you what your beliefs are supposed to be. And so, I mean, viewed from that perspective, it kind of makes sense that college degrees are so starkly defining what side of the country you vote on or

what party you vote for. And just to the point that it's almost like different classes just perceive things in completely different ways. They'll see the same press conference and perceive it in completely different ways. Right. Well, I think in our, you know, entering the workforce now, if you want a job that could actually sustain a family and all that, you almost certainly need a college degree to get that kind of employment, too. could be one of the reasons why there's such a, I don't know, the animosity towards education and things like that too, because if it does become the sort of marker of classes, then you would be like, well, those are the fancy college people. Well, I might not have a degree and have a sort of cynical viewpoint of that. Right. And when you listen to NPR talk about, that's what I was listening to, and NPR was talking about about, well, these college educated voters versus not college educated. And they were using it, I mean, it would have totally changed the context of what they were talking about if they said college socialized, as opposed

to, but they were focused, they really, the emphasis is always on the educated, because I think they want it to be, they're talking to the people who went to college. They want you to think, well, I'm the more educated person. And by being smarter, I therefore am making the right decision. And these poor dumb saps just don't know how to vote for what's best for them. And, you know, I think, you know, Jason, you've spoken to the fact that people who, you know, you grew up with who are part of Trump country are not any dumber and, in fact, a lot smarter than a lot of the people you've met since coming to our world. But it's just it's sort of different class conventions that we adopt. class conventions that we adopt. Yeah, and even now, without recapping that whole episode we did, it's, when you say class, most people listening to this think you're purely talking about income, because in America, that's usually the only way we talk about it. You're middle class, lower class, upper class, and what that discussion was about, and we've got links we can throw in

for the people that want to do further reading on it, is that it's almost more like a map of different classes, because the whole deal, the reason Trump appeals to certain classes is that he is worth a billion dollars, but he has the mannerisms and the tastes and the point of view of someone from a completely different, what we would consider like a working class. Right. He has the accent. He is involved in WWE wrestling, which is more of like seen as it's more associated with the working class. Whereas, you know, and an example of it being divorced from money on the other side is think about a college professor. A college professor does not make good money. They are meal to meal, but college professors, or at least a lot of college professors, but they are part of that upper class. They have the correct values. They carry around the correct NPR tote bag. So this is something that's very apparent in other countries. Other countries are very aware of it, that there's money.

But you don't get to just earn your way to a higher class. It's all about what you've been socialized and what you've grown up around. And I think just America has a real blind spot when it comes to how just class-oriented our society is. rural America really ring a little more kind of leave a bad taste in your mouth if you are paying attention to sort of class dynamics. And it's not that hard to see in other parts of especially in pop culture, because when I wrote the big article about this, that suddenly became a much bigger deal after after Trump won. My example I, the touchstone was like the Hunger Games. Because when you watch that movie, the hero is a rustic rural hunter living in like a shack who hunts for food and works with her hands and she's kind of dirty or whatever.

And then the evil people live in this fancy city. They wear ridiculous, gaudy clothes. They're very pretentious. You know, they put on airs. And without having to be told, we automatically hate those people. And we automatically like Katniss because she's salt of the earth. She's tough. It's more masculine values, right? Because she's a hunter.

Where in the city, in the capital, it's all of these prissy guys and their sequined clothes. So even among the rest of us, like that code for the snooty upper class versus the salt of the earth heroes, it rings true. You know, that's Luke Skywalker living on the desert planet, you know, farming humidity or whatever the hell they did. Yeah, humidity farmer. Moisture. Yeah, they're humidity farmers. Yeah, moisture.

Yeah, and then whereas like Darth Vader, they lived on the state-of-the-art Death Star, and that automatically, that code says urban versus rural. Right. Rural is the good guys, urban is the people who are out of touch, wealthy. Well, that's all it is. It's the way they see everything that's symbolized in urban people, the education level, the income level, the people talking about, oh, have you seen Hamilton yet? Oh, you've got to go.

Oh, it's amazing. It was like the rest, the other 98% of America who do not have access to Hamilton in any capacity got real sick of seeing sitcom episodes where all of the characters are trying to get Hamilton tickets. Like you get these signals that like they're living on a different planet and it's a different planet where they're detached from real problems you know and again that's obviously us on this podcast think that's unfair but it shouldn't be that hard to grasp because it turns up in pop culture everywhere yeah well yeah that idea though too that we live in these separate near almost planets within a country i could kind of see that sort of being amplified when I was looking at how a lot of the QAnon people were so disheartened by the results of the midterms because they were promised a red wave by Q. And they were fully invested like, oh, okay,

this is our time. And when that didn't happen, they became so disheartened. And the talk just became like, oh, man, when are the Moabs's going to be dropped on their city. Like this idea that like the military needs to come in, that there's this view that there are all these people who are, you know, part of, I guess, support this deep state or whatever force they're diametrically opposed to is, you know, exists in this other part that is like so well defined that you could just drop bombs on it or send the military in as if it's like this other word, like a, I don't know, a rogue army or something that's just like gallivanting around the country. Yeah. Another thing I was just thinking about is that, you know, when you look at the endowments of these universities, Harvard University has a $38 billion endowment. Yale has a $26 billion endowment. Stanford, $22 billion. Princeton, $22 billion. These are universities that still charge people hundreds of thousands of dollars for a four-year education. Why would they do that?

They don't need the money. You're gatekeeping. Yeah. It's gatekeeping to a certain extent. It's insane. It came up in this Supreme Court case about affirmative action. And it was just kind of I hadn't really thought about it in a while. But the fact that colleges still use legacy is insane. Yeah.

That why would you in a society where, you know, this is a huge part of the sorting process and we're supposed to be a meritocracy. part of the sorting process, and we're supposed to be a meritocracy. And I know that might seem like willfully naive to think that America isn't meritocracy, but it's just colleges, I feel like, are very complicit in this whole thing, in this whole divide. Yeah. Well, I think, again, with Harvard or the Ivy Leagues, to even go to one already puts you in another class, another culture of people. And I think the more obstacles there are to attain that, that's how they protect that class of people. And I think just with even when you look at education, it's increasingly harder and harder

to not have a lot of cash at your disposal and still try and get a college education without, you know, having to work multiple jobs at once or rely on like, you know, predatory loans or something. It's just, yeah, it's just sort of set up in a way that's really just kind of making it harder for people to sort of move into that. Right. By design. And this is something that it's a subject that you rarely hear discussed, which is the idea that you have classes that specifically are built to keep other people out of that class, out of that social class. It's a subject we don't like to talk about much at all. We love to talk about economic class. We love to talk about race, but the idea of social classes and how much of a role it plays in terms of what opportunities are available to you, it's entire sections of the economy or of society where which school you went to and which fraternity you're a member of is everything. That's part of what gets you in the door. I remember when Trump was determining who his final list of Supreme Court nominees were going to be, that they distinguished Amy Coney Barrett as being different because she went to Notre Dame

and didn't go to Yale. It was seen as weird to have not gone to one college, to Yale. They were like, and she's very different in addition to being a woman, she didn't go to Yale as opposed to every other member on the list. But Trump might want more of a Yale guy. It's like, what the fuck are you talking about?

What does that mean to you? But those are the optics to someone like that who is just like, oh, it's a signal to him. Okay, Yale equals this thing. And it's like sort of a myopic view of what people can accomplish. And Trump's relationship to class has always been very complicated. He was a Queens guy who always wanted to like break into the island of Manhattan. And, you know, he claims to hate the New York Times, but he always wanted the New York Times to write about him. And, you know, so there's

also some degree of, you know, aspiration, I think, probably embedded in him even now that he's the president of the United States. So there might be alien life, turns out, if I'm reading this right. I know. I'm a little blown by this story now. Come on, you guys. Well, no. I exhale because originally I think we wanted to talk about it in the event that things went horribly awful. And we're just like, whatever, dude.

An alien ship might just come kill us all and take us out of our misery. Amu amua. Okay. That's pretty basic to think that the aliens would want to kill us, Miles. Thank you. Okay. But I don't know if you noticed. They are evolved.

They are going to take us with them. Oh, you're right. Okay. My bad. My bad. Sorry for the backlash but uh but jack was pronouncing the name of this object this foreign object that they have detected sorry did i say something i thought i just blacked out there for a second no okay so to set the story up

y'all uh what happened was like a while back i think a year ago or something. Yeah, last year. Yeah, the astronomers, they detected this gigantic object that was very sort of odd-looking, dubbed, Jack, as you pronounced... Amu'amua. Or Omu'amua or whatever. Hey, whatever you want to call it. Amu'amua. Hey, all right.

All right. Yeah, they say it arrived from interstellar space beyond the bubble-like region that demarcates the sun's domain. Sort of dildo-shaped. Yeah. It looks like. Splinter-shaped. It looks like an eclair or a ladyfinger.

Yeah. I think is what you would call that. Uh-huh. But the thing that got people sort of interested in it is that, especially these people at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. So, you know, they're not just lying to you. That they're saying, you know, first they're like, oh, maybe there's a comet, but they have a very different theory. So some of these astrophysicists

claim that Oumuamua could be a, quote, fully operational probe sent intentionally to Earth's vicinity by an alien civilization. Oumuamua deviates from a trajectory that is solely dictated by the sun's gravity. This could have been the result of cometary outgassing, but there is no evidence for a cometary tail around it.

Moreover, comets change at the period of their spin, and no such change was detected for Oumuamua. So they're saying, yo, this thing is moving around, not like anything else we know. What's going on here? Yeah. And there's also... I also like that one of you thought it looked like a dildo on the other one, like an eclair. Right.

It's like a hungry, horny situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just depends on who's got dicks on the brain and who's got- Truth be told, there's no amount of marshmallow fluff you can put on a dildo for it to taste good. So they're talking about it being potentially a light sail. Is that something where you're using the speed of light to, like, transport yourself at the speed of light? Is that the idea?

Well, they're saying that they, again, this is so science, and I did so terribly in science in school, I had to cheat to pass. Okay, so I'm sorry. I'm a little confession for y'all. to pass. Okay, so I'm sorry. A little confession for y'all. But the way that it's moving, they're saying another explanation is that the quote, extra force exerted on Oumuamua by sunlight, that is what's

moving it, and for that to be possible that the actual object would have to be less than a millimeter in thickness, like a sail. So they're saying that this may be some kind of light sail produced by an alien civilization, but it's also kind of a thing that we're kind of working on on this planet, too. Yeah.

Yeah. Anyway. Never heard of a light sail? No. Pretty embarrassing. I'm a broke boy space explorer. I have a Dodge Dart. It actually also comes with a light sail.

That's actually the color of your car is light sail. Right. One of the theories that i've heard and by the way we'll talk about people who are debunking this because the scientific community loves themselves a backlash yeah they love a good debunk yeah well let's really look at this object i'm really into bunking i mean essentially the point that somebody made in debunking this was just that a theory is just something that you can't prove incorrect right right which is true it's one of like a thousand possibilities but this is a very interesting possibility so it's worth talking

about yes and uh you know it helps explain a couple things that haven't been explained otherwise. But a theory I saw somewhere was that this is part of a ship that has been cast off from another craft that has been now slowing down in its approach to Earth. Because if you had our spacecraft, you shed different parts of it that are powering it as you're going up through space. So if you shed something that was part of a spacecraft as you were slowing down to approach Earth, then that thing would go flying by the solar system before the ship actually arrived because it would be slowing down. Oh, shit. So we might be seeing what was actually coming here.

So that's them ditching the rocket booster. Right. That's the rocket booster that they ditched. Woo! The real deal is coming for us. So that sounds like Independence Day, the second part. And now I'm terrified. I feel like the way you look at aliens is the same way people were optimistic about the election before and after 2016.

There are groups of us who are like, yeah, baby, any signal means aliens or means Hillary's going to win. And then there are other people who are like, no. Even though I'm an expert, I need the fucking alien to come down on the planet and be able to shake its hand for me to acknowledge it. I just also hope that they love 90 Day Fiancé. Oh, my God. They almost definitely will. That's the only thing I care about. That will be the ultimate 90 Day Fiance is an alien life form coming down to Earth. That's the best new season idea ever, Jack.

They're like, Bleak Blorg was way different than when we were first chatting online. Right. He said he was a multi-cell organism, but actually when I met him, he was more of an amoeba. I was like, i thought on earth you guys have gold and go on vacations this is not what i signed up for god he didn't meet you with flowers where are my flowers larissa anyway we have to figure out how we're gonna talk about the show one possibility uh that i've always thought was like more likely that i didn't understand why people don't talk about more

is that like we would encounter an alien civilization that had like died off a million years ago and we're just like seeing evidence of it you know coming to us through space and that's something that i saw mentioned while people were discussing this report that like it could be a long ago civilization right it's just like their ship passing by. Their space shit is only making it to us now. But that would be fucking dope if we found out about an entire civilization's history, an entire species' history, but we didn't have to deal with getting killed off by them.

We just got to read an entire history. Yeah, we go, oh, cool, a dead body. But wouldn't it be crazy if it was just our history and it like ends with donald trump right right we're like yo dude you still couldn't get people to vote him out of office that's a script that's a script write that down i like honestly though i can just imagine like us being like, holy shit, this is our history. And the next year, Donald Trump ends the world and people be like, not fake news. Like you would just it would go exactly the same way.

I've said for a long time that the aliens are very bigly losers. This is a crisis space refuse. Right. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. Means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks.

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