The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 5 (Best of 1/2/18-1/5/18)

Episode Date: January 7, 2018

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So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. There's a difference? Yes. Farm-raised and wild leeches? So I recently got leeches. I got leeched for the show I do on Super Deluxe. I know, and everyone was so – people were asking, like yo, why is her like lip is a mess, like still bleeding?

It was. I think it's just works that way. I was. Oh, you bleed for. So another fun fact, when we recorded Santa University, I was still losing a lot of blood. I had a diaper strapped to the front of me while we were recording Santa University. Jesus. So.

And you are a true warrior because you didn't mention this blood diaper one bit and you powered through that reading like it was any other day. I was also bleeding while I wrote Sanhedrin Diversity, which I think really shows. I was losing a lot of blood. Bleeding because you did a leech thing for Super Deluxe. What was the leech thing? So the leech thing is that like it's like this old kind of ancient practice where leeches can, in theory, they suck out like toxins out of your blood and like remove blood clots. It works like a blood thinner. And then they spit in leech stuff. I think government secrets.

Leeches. Yeah. The leech state. It's a little bit of a black mirror, if you will. But the leech. We will. So no one told me that after you are leeched – because I was leeched in my – I had two leeches in my belly button, three leeches on my face, one leech on my tongue. Wow.

And no one tells you that you bleed for 18 hours just freely afterwards. My face had clotted by the time we recorded Santa University, thankfully. But yeah, I still had a diaper strapped to my front because my belly button was really... I was losing a lot of blood that day. And when you say this, I'm just picturing you because

you weren't sure how to address this blood thing, so you just straight up bought a diaper and duct taped the shit to your stomach. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not like any proper gauze or anything. You're just like, fuck it. I'm going to put a diaper on the front. The leech lady was like, I was like, what should I?

She's like, you're going to need a diaper. Really? Yeah. She was like, you got to get a pack of diapers. Diapers are actually super useful in just everyday stuff. They do everything. Do you use them as like paper towels? Yeah.

I've used them as paper towels. I've just put them on my back so I don't sweat through my shirt. No way. Hell yeah. Yeah, because I had my son's A diaper in my car, and I was just like, yo, I'm sweating through my shirt. And my grandfather was a basketball coach, and he was a real sweaty dude, and he was tired of ruining his suits. So he would put diapers under his arms. And one time he was freaking out on the refs, and foam just started coming out of the sleeves of his suit because he sweat so much that the diaper dissolved.

That is how sweaty my bloodline is. Oh, my God, dude. I'm good. Oh, there's so many diaper secrets coming out. Oh, yeah. Hit us on Twitter with some more diaper hacks because I'm sure, aside from the obvious things of being so absorbent, there are many other uses for diapers. Yeah. So the lifespan of a domestic – because – okay.

So the reason – now the leeches are my pets because the leech lady was – I was like, well, what are you going to do with the leeches? And she's like, well, they can only survive on your blood. So if you don't take them with you, I'm going to throw them in a vat and they'll dissolve. Oh, my god. I was like, well, the stakes rose very quickly. And so I was like, well, I'll take the leeches. And so now I need to go – they can live up to 10 years, but they can only feed on my blood. They can't feed on anyone else's blood.

So like once you blood them. I don't know. That's what she said. She was like, you have to like it's someone else's blood. It won't work. So leeches can live off of a single feeding for like a year. And then usually they'll just die. But I can keep them alive with my diaper blood oh if i want

he's gonna wring out that diaper i really and that well then i saw the shape of water and it was you know uh women falling in love with the sea urchin i was like it's basically me and my it's your life also all adult leeches are women. And so I just feel like sisterhood. Yeah. I got to feed them. They're your dragons. They're my little dragons. You're the Khaleesi of leeches.

You're the Khaleesi of leeches. Khaleesi. Hey! Hey! Another development. As of Monday, yesterday, weed is now legal in California. Hell yeah, bro. Sick. Sickest day of my life. I'm going to have to become a weed is now legal in California. Hell yeah, bro. Sick.

Sickest day of my life. I'm going to have to become a weed cop now. Right. This is my black mirror. So I have not partaken in many a year. Wow. I'm so cool. Officer O'Brien.

Right. But I am curious how this will affect. Will this change how you acquire and consume marijuana? No. No. You don't think so? I think already in California, we've already been operating in this gray area of really easy to obtain medical marijuana licenses. of like really easy to obtain medical marijuana licenses that essentially if you really wanted to go to a dispensary, you could just get the, you can Skype a doctor on your cell phone, tell him you can't sleep.

He's like, I hurt. Yeah. And like the guys like, dude, some of the guys are like in their own beds. I don't know if you've seen someone ever Skype call a weed doctor to get their card. Like some, some of these guys are so fucking lazy. It's amazing. But yeah, that you can just go and you can still get like the top shelf medical weed at the place with just a card but like i guess now you know some places like with all the state and local tax supply like you can be paying like 45 tax

on like this legal weed so a lot of like people are like yo just get the card you're not gonna pay the taxes to avoid the taxes i think also if you know, like most people know somebody to get weed. I don't know how much it's going to change, but I think it'll, as they figure out all the regulations and make it easier for people to just pop in. Right. I think then, yeah, I think people will probably go to the store to get their legal weed. Right. My experience with weed in college where it was just like whoever could get you a bag of like really shitty like seeds and stems was not indicative of what it's like to buy weed now. And no, because I mean, like even like weed is so cheap right now, too, in California, because like it's because of like the medical marijuana industry and things like that. It's not as crazy as it used to be in terms of like what the most expensive

weed is now. And I think, yeah, for this, I think it's, this is good for people who are like, have a lot of money and not any cool friends that now they can just go to the weed store and pay like a markup on weed.

But I think the biggest thing too, is like the amount of, of tax revenue that it will bring. And I think that's the most exciting thing because, you know, we are now the largest legal weed market in the country. I'm excited to see the stupid, cheesy, like, weed advertising. I've already been enjoying, like, the very, like, pouty model weed billboards of, like, there's, like, one outside of 7-Eleven I frequent, obviously,

where it's, like, these pouty, hot kids. Not like kids, but like cool teens. And it says like, it's legal now. Relax. I was like, why are these teenagers so pouty and hot? I love it. It's great. Yeah.

Is it going to be like – is it going to replace alcohol in terms of like advertising and like lame old people, like the way they treat wine? Is it going to be – God, I'd love to see those print ads. It's like everyone's just like on their face on a couch. It's like, dude, check out the new OG Kush. I'm not good at weed. You're not good at weed? I'm not good at weed. You're not good at weed? I'm not good at weed.

I try. I can smoke, but with like every time I do edibles, I fully, I'm just like, I'm going to run into traffic. This is it. Oh, wow. I had weed nachos not too long ago. Sounds like peak stoner. And I'm 99%.

I peed myself that night. 99%. I was like, this is actually, I needed a diaper. Well, just shift. Yeah. Just shift your stomach diaper. You've got one on. I was like, this is actually I needed a diaper. Just shift your stomach diaper. I had enough diapers. There was no excuse. You were just so high you didn't even know how to work it. You're like, I don't know. Strap it to my back.

Alright, so as we mentioned, I had a very cool New Year's where I watched a lot of New Year's Eve coverage. It was frustrating. Like on the West Coast, you can't see the ball drop live except for like a feed online. It was the only place I found it. Oh, weird.

Oh, because they really want to keep you locked into it. Yeah. So they have like a feed that says live on it, and it's actually like three hours earlier on the East Coast. It's really annoying. There's right east coast it's really there's nothing that is that why can't we just get like a west coast why can't we get let's get our own yeah exactly uh so this was my frustration but apparently so cnn apparently had the like hottest uh new year's party going down uh anderson cooper and andy cohen were chilling and it was apparently like really edgy and uh offended a lot of conservatives and like parents who are watching with their kids because

of the two of them or just other shit uh well so the two of that there was a lot of drug shit going on so uh there was a segment that is getting the bulk of the attention where they like threw to a reporter who was live in Colorado celebrating New Year's Eve at a puff and paint party where people like smoke weed and paint. God, there's nothing worse than a paint night. Nothing. Fucking animals. Nothing. I don't even know what a paint night is, but I'll scream about it later. OK. But and she like had marijuana earrings on and like lit somebody's gas mask bomb and was seen holding a marijuana cigarette.

No. A jazzy cig. And because of that, my child, my child has now turned into a marijuana. jazzy sick and because of that my child my child has now turned into a marijuana right um um which i i think people are overreacting to there was a weird moment though where andy cohen here let's listen to to it i think we have a clip well it's about 11 degrees here in times square but it feels like 10 or 9, I'd say. I agree, actually. How's this heat? Is it surging? This part of me feels very hot. The rest of me feels very cold, so I feel very unbalanced. You sound like you're on heroin

or something. How does that even sound like? Isn't it like waves of heat or something like that? Oh, that's what you're referencing. I don't know anything about it. What? Good save. I don't know anything about heroin. I don't know anything about it. What? Good save. I don't know anything about heroin. I don't know.

I just speak knowledgeably about what it's like to be on heroin. And then put you on the spotlight, right? And you're like, dude, what? Nah. I don't know anything about that. Don't make Anderson Cooper have to deny it. And Andy Cohen, who's the former E who then became like an on air personality. And yeah, he was he was apparently super rough the whole time.

He just like and I noticed that actually in a couple of the broadcasts that I watch that people were it was so cold. People like couldn't think straight. Right. And we're just like having trouble like the Fox production was a disaster. Like, obviously, Steve Harvey is always the best. But but everything else, it was just a mess. Yeah. But but I don't I don't know that I can kind of see where some conservatives are coming from. If if they focused on the heroin comment, the weed things, I don't know. I mean, sure. You don't, I guess. Yeah. Because we've never, they've been really like strict about showing people straight up smoking weed on TV.

So like doing like a hard cut to someone doing a gas mask bong on a CNN thing, I think would be jarring for some people. I can see how if you were like a very like strict parent who wanted to shelter. Watching with your kids. Yeah. And then you're like, suddenly they're like, what's that? if you were like a very like strict parent who wanted to shelter kids. Yeah. And then you're like, suddenly they're like, what's that? And you're like, I actually, I think that if you were like watching with your kids, like that would be what would stand out more than Andy Cohen's weird heroin.

Yeah. That was just like a random thing that someone like pointed out on Reddit. Yeah. Wow. What a fucking funny. So fun. Cause it's like, yeah, of course Andy Collins tried hair. But also it's like,

you can feel like, I'm sure the two of them like have partied together and they're probably just sort of like, look, bro, when we do this, like you can't just be saying crazy shit like you do when we're not being broadcast on TV.

Talking about me being like people on heroin. Right. Super producer Anna Hosnier has just entered the recording booth after spending the morning recording a batch pod. Bachelor podcast. You are a bachelor expert. That is correct. That is not what we're going to talk to you about. But worth mentioning.

Worth mentioning. Just to set this segment up. Just to set this segment up. I wanted to sort of get a primer from you on the Iranian protests and just like how do you feel about them? What's going on over there? Okay. So currently what's happening in Iran, there's protests that are coming up mostly from poor communities within Iran. Right.

And a lot of it, it's based off domestic issues. So right now there's a very high unemployment rate. The cost of living has like skyrocketed. Like the cost of eggs has risen like 40 percent in the last year. So people are just like, what is going on? Yeah. And people truly believe that the government is way too focused on what's going on in Syria and Palestine and not what's actually going on in the country and what the people are dealing with like every day. They're at this point taking away money from welfare programs and then giving this money to like religious groups or like the mullahs and the religious clerics who, you know, are kind of the people that run the country on the back end. You know, a lot of, you know, Rouhani is the president, but the supreme leader is the person who makes the ultimate decisions.

So there's a lot of – Snoke. Snoke. Snoke. Supreme leader Snoke. Is that Andy Serkis? Yes. Yeah.

So the current supreme leader is Ali Khomeini, not to be confused with the original supreme leader, Rouhallah Khomeini. We weren't going to confuse so he's he's currently the person who if ruhani wants to pass a law it technically has to go through the supreme leader the supreme leader is going to be like hey is it up to my religious standards and they're calling for the death of both of them right yeah but that's the thing is the weird thing is like iranians when they start to overreact they automatically jump to death it's not like impeach yeah kill this motherfucker to our president it's like slow down slow down um because same thing like when it happened they'd be like death to america whenever we oh yeah to the great satan i remember that yeah basically when trump came into power there was a

lot of death to america which is like that's that's a lot of work you know you don't have time you got a really good worry about how much the price of the eggs are priorities yeah and so and you know when the sanctions were lifted because of this nuclear deal the iranian public were like oh perfect this is going to make it easier sanctions are lifted more things can come into our country we can things will get interact more with the outside world right you know like textbooks are coming into the universities and the students are actually like able to like do the research they want and learn things and discover things and like basically brain drain into the U.S. in the end. But that's that's mostly Iranians. They're just trying to like get to learn all the stuff and then come to America. And so that didn't really do anything.

Right. And Rouhani is like, oh, well, you know, the problem is that like everyone's corrupt. So there is a chance for this to go down. But all the money is basically being taken by like just people that work in the government. And there's all this mismanagement and there's there's blatant corruption. But I have to say alleged corruption. My family does live in Iran. And if I ever go to Iran, I'm not trying to get arrested and used as like a political

bargaining tool, which is not a great idea for me to be talking on this podcast but anyway um yeah so that is because the basis of what a lot of it is and a lot of women's rights issues like these women are out here fighting like it's kind it's actually really amazing because these women can be put in solitary confinement spend the rest of their lives and never see their family they could get public lashings like literally hung up on the streets and lashed for the public to come see right that's the level of intensity of trouble you can get into so i think it's very important like what they're doing and how they're like putting themselves out there and fighting for what they believe in because technically they live under a regime. Yeah.

So, I mean. Because was Rouhani like seen as sort of like a reformer too, like to kind of like bring in, like usher in a slightly new era in Iran? He's like the liberal, as liberal as you can get to be an Islamic Republic president. Like they were like, he's on Twitter. Like that blew people's minds. Like they were like, he's on Twitter. Like they were like, this dude can tweet. And a lot of the top officials were educated in America and went back to Iran.

So like Javad Zarif, the foreign minister, educated America. That's why he's always out here on Twitter. Like, yeah, his clapback game is real. Yes. Yes. If you say if anyone like Nikki Haley or anyone says anything about Iran, this guy is literally sitting there like – He's got 240 characters waiting. He's got drafts on drafts on drafts.

All right. That's that. So yeah, that's a bit of an – that's what's going on. Well, yeah, it's interesting because like you said, it started with all these sort of grievances about the economy and like what the day-to-day life was. economy and like the like what the day-to-day life was and then slowly like it started in like these very conservative parts of iran which are like i think i think it was the ayatollah who was trying to say that these were like fake protests or people trying to divide the people but then it spread so quickly and then like the messages really started changing to be about so much more and you're starting to see like the people there are really they're not really waiting for this

like very small slow incremental change it seems like the iranian people really want to like be participate in the world more freely and just have like a more modern country it's interesting because they don't want the shah to come back because they don't want that world of like we're basically run by america but at the same time they don't want this aggressive like religious cleric looking over them and being like no right you can't have that and no i won't answer your questions because i'm literally a supreme leader which is like yeah okay yeah that's like some i don't like i said i don't know if this will actually lead to change because it it is a regime and they can silence people and in my experience when i've been in iran and watch the news there oh it is just delusional the shit they're putting out there

like you are literally watching a like just propaganda and just fake news like you are they are the kings of fake news over there because they are just putting they'll say there's a protest going on and then they'll play the same clip over and over again and then they'll tell you the protest is like it's a march for like happiness and you're just like what these people are screaming they're like no they're screaming good things yeah and then you're like okay because i've had actual like i've watched and i've been like what what what this is confusing then my cousins literally go oh no this is all fake this is iranian news station you're not gonna see the truth right and then i was like where am i yeah so trump is openly advocating

for the protesters which seems like a surprisingly cool thing for trump to do yeah but i also think he's just trying to rile up the situation because it goes against the iranian government i don't know i don't think he's on anyone's side i think he's just trying to fuel a fire as long as you're not protesting him right yeah he's for it he's like yeah not me a fire. I mean, as long as you're not protesting him. Right. He's for it. He's like, yeah, not me. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, but I mean, like last week they were like, death to Trump. You know, that's quick to do. Well, because I think what, two people were killed already, right?

Like were shot. Oh, 20? It's because, yeah, they're saying that they are attacking. The thing is, they won't explain how they die. They just say they're dead. Right. That's the weird thing. They will never reveal're dead. Right. That's the weird thing. They will never reveal

how the deaths. A minute ago, somebody tweeted 12 news, tweeted six days of Iran protests, 20 dead, 450 arrested. Wow. Yeah. Well, and also it can't be very helpful for someone that the country openly hates to be like, love what you're doing over there. Like that's just not. Yeah. Yeah. Deflating. Yeah. All right.

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a overall trend that they're seeing. Like Miley Cyrus had her big, uh, you know, run of appropriation. And then last year, apparently she released a, uh, country pop album, right. She was wearing her like cowboy hat all over the place. Um,

and lady Gaga, uh, released a more like stripped down, authentic album that was less like poppy and, uh, more like piano music. And she was wearing a cowboy hat so there's like something with this cowboy culture like being seen as more authentic for white

artists and i had actually just read a really interesting uh run on uh from Robin Panaccia. I'm probably pronouncing that wrong. She's a writer for Wonkette, and she talks about how there's this, like, big conspiracy. We had actually written about it, Cracked, but I totally forgot about it, about how in the early 20th century, Henry Ford, one of the wealthiest, crazy anti-Semite racists to ever have just all the money in the world, decided he wanted to launch a campaign to give white people a type of music and dancing because he was worried about the influence of jazz and R&B. Which he had an interesting name for that, right?

Yeah. He called it like jungle music with like monkey howls or something. Jungle buggy. Yeah. And so he actually like started a campaign where he tried to make square dancing popular. Like he basically invented square dancing. popular like he basically invented square dancing it's only like 40 50 years old and uh like started uh paying schools to put it in their uh pe curriculum did you guys ever did you take square dancing and pe no i did i didn't i didn't take i remember it was one day and like they

brought out a fucking record player yeah that's why one of my memories because i was like seven years old i'm like a fucking record player and then it was like playing some like weird thing and we were all confused like this is not that was part of my education yeah but for like two days in uh gym class you had to like square dance and like nobody nobody enjoyed it like it didn't really accomplish anything but so the reason for that was all part of this conspiracy by a racist, Henry Ford, the car manufacturer, because he thought that like jazz was a Jewish conspiracy to make black music popular. And so I don't know. It's just interesting that we're associating, you know, cowboy hats and, you know, country music, which also was back like white country artists, but it was an actual conspiracy, uh, to make white people like country music. And it worked.

Apparently, um, we didn't have the square dance in elementary school, but we did the electric slide. That's pretty cool. One day. That was fun. Coach Pat,

shout out to coach Pat, central elementary school, Pasco, Mississippi. Uh, we, we did the, uh,

you also misspoke. You said that square distance is only 40 years old you got to remember this 2018 y'all 40 years ago was 1978 yeah okay 60 something years I think jungle music had taken over by that time it wasn't nothing they could do at that point it's too late yeah that's that's that's that's not a new thing though man you know like popular culture hip-hop culture is popular culture. And it has been since, I would say, probably the mid to late 90s. Yeah. Like.

Yeah. It's crazy how consistent this pattern is. I would wager to say, like, the early 2000s when it really. When it really, yeah. Because, like, to me, like, when Get Rich or Die Tryin' came out. Yeah. That's when I was surprised at how many people were like, yo, man, I fuck with 50 Cent. And I was like, what?

You know what song is, like, the ultimate, like like white dude song that i don't even know the lyrics to forgot about dre oh i don't know the lyrics to that song i don't know how it goes i just know the hook right but all of my white male friends know all the lyrics to forgot about dre jack do you know the list i know most of the lyrics to Forgot About Dre. Yeah. That's my favorite song, Carl. Okay, so maybe we get, I believe you. That can be the year right there. 2001, when Forgot About Dre came out.

That was when it. That's it. That was when hip-hop culture became. Yeah, because I guess also Eminem. Eminem, yeah. He really, I think he really mainstreamed hip-hop for a lot of white people. Yeah. I was going to – I mean this kind of brings it back to our overrated because it does seem like there are some average-ass rappers who get very successful because they're white people. I don't know. I mean I think there's just as many mediocre black rappers too.

Yeah. Yeah. I guess. But it's our – we can be mediocre. Rap is the one thing that black people can be mediocre at. Everything else we've got to be great at. You've got to be LeB Rap is the one thing that black people can be mediocre at. Everything else we got to be great at. You got to be LeBron in the NBA. You got to be Cam Newton in the NFL.

But you can be Kodak Black in hip hop. You can be Takeoff from Eagles. Takeoff is tight. Is he your favorite? I think he's the weakest one. He's not. He's not. I promise you.

Listen to his catalog. Listen to Takeoff Essentials on Apple Music or wherever you get your music. And there's no Takeoff Essentials. But there is a list of songs that he is the feature rapper on. Right. He's tight. It's just they're different. He raps like Offset.

Right. Offset! Offset is like records on records. I got it. And then Takeoff is... That's a different... It's a different tone. Offset. Except. Offset. Offset is like records on records. I got it. And then take off. That's a different. Typical.

It's a different. It's a different tone. Different cadence. I like them. There's a article from the New Yorker that's talking about how China is viewing Donald Trump and our country by extension. And it's not very reassuring. He wasn't the the article just all the laughing cry face emojis yes it was just three pages of that in a line uh no but so it talks about how at first they were and i think this is actually a good sort of description of how everybody viewed him at first they were like wow he really pulled off. He must be secretly like a genius. And they were like, really, you know, worried. They thought he was going to, you know, take it to them. And then they met with him. He that that Mar-a-Lago visit where Trump came out and was like, I think I think she likes me. I think. cake time yeah yeah it was a lovely chocolate cake uh and and his response i was with me was

i think he likes me i think so maybe he hates me but i think he likes me it was like what the fuck man why are you so sweaty you can't pull up to like a sit down with that kind of energy and the uh xi jinping left the meeting being like wow he like takes everything literally he doesn't really yeah they were like like he had a he's like i got these fortune cookies for everyone in order to use xi jinping they were just like taken aback by how like simple minded and like how simple his view of asia was like how little he knew uh and like the fact that he came out of the meeting was like wow this north korea thing is really complicated they were like what you didn't know that i feel like there's been an article like that for Like the fact that he came out of the meeting was like, wow, this North Korea thing is really complicated.

They were like, what? You didn't know that? I feel like there's been an article like that for everything, right? Like he was like, wow, health insurance is actually pretty complicated. Wow. This immigration thing is pretty complicated. What the fuck did he think? Right.

I think that's what appealed to so many people. Because he's a simple, he's a simple. At least it's relatable. Yeah. Yeah. This shit is, this is complicated. It's like, like yeah but we've been trying to tell you that for years they don't want to listen to you right right yeah and i mean it's very easy to identify with i certainly didn't know how complicated all that shit was um backs away from Jack again. I totally identify with Trump and his views. But so they're, they're now viewing the Trump presidency as like a huge opportunity to become the leader on the world stage because we're asleep. Yeah, essentially.

And, uh, it's sort of a national mood that's like sweeping through this past summer. They had their most successful movie in the history of Chinese cinema. And it's just like a action movie. It was actually part two of the franchise. It's similar to have you seen Rambo 2? No. OK. So Rambo 1 was like a decent sized hit. Rambo two was this monster hit. And it was like because it like in it, Rambo went back and won the Vietnam War. Oh, yeah. And like just defeats the entire Vietnamese army, like North Vietnamese army by himself.

And so it was like clearly like dealing with a wound that America had in their unconscious. And like, so it became like five times as successful as the first one. And this seems like a similar thing. This is a sequel to a just a standard action movie that became their most successful movie ever. And its climax is this Chinese action star beating an American to death. It's about China taking a bigger role on the national stage. They're like – he goes into – I think it's an African nation where there's like an uprising where they're trying to kill diplomats on the ground there.

And they make a point of like they – one of the people they're saving is counting on the Americans to come through and save them. And like they call the American consulate and it's closed. Like that's like a big point. So like everyone in China was like, fuck, yeah, they're super excited about this. I hope when they get to the American consulate and it's closed, like they're ringing the phone and you cut inside of it. And all this is just like a black dude with headphones on mopping the floor. He can't hear the phone ringing. Please open up.

I need to get in. Please. He's just like whistling to himself. I'll be stroking. Well, that's interesting. Cause like also China's been like, they've been way more active in Africa than the U S too. Like investing, building infrastructure. Like, you know, China's interesting because also China has been – they've been way more active in Africa than the US too, like investing, building infrastructure.

China is definitely – they know that America is asleep at the wheel and now is a better time than ever to kind of reestablish or not reestablish but fully establish themselves as a leader because that's already kind of happening. It is. Especially with like – they're being like somehow the leaders on climate change and other shit, too. Like, yeah, we've sort of, I don't know, abandoned the throne. Right. And they're because they're smart and diplomatic about things. They're not like openly coming out and being like, ha ha, fuck you, America. You're fucking up. They're just quietly like taking over power. And then behind closed doors, this article says they're like acknowledging like china is now the new monolithic power um but this was also being predicted by like economists

since like the 80s right like you know like that by this time that like china would be the world's biggest power like by 2020 it's still pretty lopsided when you look at like the size of the economy right america is still way bigger and this is speeding up a shift that people were seeing happening right right um i like i had always read that that china was eventually going to take over and it was inevitable but when you actually look at the demographics the reason china is having this like huge juggernaut uh economy is because of the one child policy. Right. And like basically the way their demographics stack out is that they have like a great what's called dependency ratio,

where they have way more working age people than they have retired and like babies. Right. And that usually helps an economy. Like that's almost a single indicator that you can see how successful a nation's economy is our dependence ratio is not that great right our dependency ratio was trending was great for a number of years because the baby boom was moving from 18 to 65 so the baby boom was moving through working age and when you have a huge like glut of people who are working through that age you're going to have a lot of economic success. The Chinese are just coming to the end of having the people who were the parents of the

one-child generation going through that stage. So they had an artificially really strong dependency ratio, but now they're coming into the part where the working-age people are the one-child generation. So they're going to have an artificially low, like an artificially bad dependency ratio. So it could go either way, but this is certainly not helping. And I don't know. With the North Korea stuff, it just seems like America is standing in the world. There's been a war of tweets that we were referring to earlier with the button thing. But it just seems so clear now that people were always like, Trump's playing chess and everyone else is playing checkers.

Not even that. 4G chess, my man, if you're on some certain subreddits. But so Kim Jong-un is driving a wedge between South Korea and the U.S. by like opening up relations and like opening up communication with between North Korea and South Korea. And Trump is responding to that by like bragging about the size of his button. Right. Like how much his button works. Because I know like North Korea, they're looking at it like, yo, if we get America out of the picture, then we can just figure out our own reunification thing. I know Kim Jong Un, his mind thinks if America's out of the picture that he can somehow unite both Koreas and somehow Pyongyang can rule over both, which is a bit of a long shot. But at the very least, I think South Koreans also see a way of like having like a federation while keeping their like total unification agenda at

bay a lot of our stick with like our carrot and stick with north korea is like sanctioned based and sanctions only work if you can get everybody else in the world to agree to like withhold and so if he's you know striking up a relationship with south korea and you know having a strong relationship with china that then amer America is not going to have any ability to negotiate. Yeah. And we've I think as a country, we have a track record of showing like we really don't do shit when North Korea acts up like they took the USS Pueblo when like 1968 didn't

do shit. Right. And all we did, all we do now are just like sanctions that China undermines. Who knows? I think maybe that's why they may look at Trump a bit differently because he's just so erratic. But if you look at sort of like the history of like, you know, what the U.S. response is to like North Korean provocations, it's typically just sort of sanctions that can be worked around or undermined. I've been struggling with this thing where I worry I'm underestimating Trump because I did during the election. But I don't know.

And you still see that, like, in the comment sections of an article where Trump does something stupid. If it's not, like, on The New York Times, if it's a place where, you know, there are right-wing people. Or Trump's, like, made his career off of, like, people underestimating him and, you know, just assuming that he has like a long game that he's playing. And I don't know. There's an article about the 68 election and how, you know, America has a long history of overreading election results. And, you know, we just like really focus in on elections as being these hugely significant things. And I don't know, I think that might be what I'm doing. And when you look at there's a Politico article called Donald Trump's year of living dangerously, where they just talk about how basically everybody on

his staff is just like China sort of gave him the benefit of the doubt at first and now are just sort of taken aback and are like finding ways to, you know, work around him and keep him isolated from any really consequential decisions. So it seems like the only people who are still left in the camp of now, just let's see where he's going with this. He probably has a plan are, you know, his supporters and even the people who like work with him and for him are just like,

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I mean, there are people doing it in Maine and the Pacific Northwest, but a lot of vocal people in the Bay Area. Right, and it is a health craze sweeping the harebrained idiots of America into raw water. Miles, can you explain what raw water is? Raw water is for people who feel like drinking tap water is full of poisonous fluoride and shit like that. So they want to just drink unfiltered, untreated water that comes from springs and rivers to just really get back to earth because they feel like there's probiotics, which I think the FDA would call those pathogens. But yeah, they just feel like there's health benefits to drinking this raw water. And one of the most vocal people about it has been that guy who started that Juicero company.

That was just like those bags you scan, and it was like a total sham. You just squeeze the fucking juice out of the bags. It was just a bag of juice that you had to buy a juicer to squeeze the bag. That was the thing. I'm 40, so I remember being in college when Odwalla hit. Right. And that was a big thing to see a person walking around with a 12-ounce big old green drink. Oh, right.

It wasn't pasteurized. Right. So everyone was just thinking, like, you're just getting the best. You're taking two poops a day. You know what I mean? You're feeling good. But then you got somebody and your friend's sick. And then you're like, well, why do you miss chemistry?

He goes, yeah, he's in the hospital. You know what a t as a tapeworm you know there's always this interesting thing about um about water where i feel like the like we're all getting duped and most people won't challenge it because it's natural they'll say it's water it's fruit it's something from the earth it's not man from the earth it's like drinking from mother nature's teat. Yeah, exactly. It doesn't get more pure than that. Which is not true, by the way. And having filtered water is a fine thing. And actually, in some places, it's considered a luxury to not be drinking from streams where there are pathogens.

Exactly. Let's reevaluate. I think that's where all that water is going to go after it doesn't sell. You're just going to go over there. Just dump it out in the fucking park. Sally's show is another with a pallet full of water. The fluoride thing is like an ancient – not ancient, but a really old American conspiracy theory that the fluoride is a mind-control chemical. Wait. When did that come about?

Because I heard that. It's gone as far back as when the government first started putting fluoride in our water, which I think was early 20th century. The only difference now that most of the water people drink is bottled water or a lot of the water people drink is that Americans have way worse teeth than they used to. Is that? they used to is basically like that's why the fluoride was put in there in the first place is because uh like people were suffering from horrible dental health and so we started putting fluoride in the public drinking water and we had some of the best teeth on the planet well there goes that one yeah and now and now we have gone all the way back to drinking in streams uh but you have to look at the pictures of the people who are spearheading this. They're pretty awesome.

Just like almost two on the nose. They've got like beards and weird robes and shit. So we want to move on to the Trump administration has announced that they're going after legal weed and uh so that that was fun while it lasted weed was legal yeah i guess we'll have to throw it away um so uh miles one big fire man yeah so basically obama put out a memo saying the federal law and the state law are in conflict and that's you know of the way the U.S. government works, is you have one law that's one thing and local law that's another, and they just clash and you never get anything accomplished,

and that's sort of by design. So Obama came out and was like, let's just let the states do what they want to do in this case. And Trump is expected to dissolve that statute or whatever in the next 24 hours, which isn't totally surprising because Sessions, his attorney general, has always come out and said the only bad thing about the KKK is that they smoke weed at one point. That's like a quote on the record from him. So he thinks marijuana is like heroin, basically.

Yeah, so this has gotten a lot of people, especially in the legal cannabis industry, like, oh my God, what's going on? A lot of the reporting is like, oh my God, they're going to take away our weed. So a friend of mine, Ben Rexchus, he's a California attorney. He practices law at Rexchus Law here in LA,

but he's like a criminal defense and cannabis business lawyer. So we want to bring him on really quick to get his take on exactly like how lawyers are actually looking at this memo. So we're going to call him right now. All right, Ben, are you there? I am there. Thank you so much. So, Ben, as a lawyer working in the field of cannabis, you know, what can you tell us?

I mean, like I feel like a lot of people are, you know, kind of freaking out about this, but I feel like from a legal standpoint, it's not going to be as easy to just sort of eliminate all the, you know, recreational weed that is occurring in this country, right? Absolutely. You know, and it's especially on the scale that it's grown to in the past couple of years. You know, we have more and more states legalizing. We have states like Colorado and Washington that have been doing this since 2014 and have well-established programs. So yeah, to dismantle this would take a feat that I'm not sure that the Department of Justice is up to it. But again, I'm not ruling out anything because if there's anything that the

last year has taught us is that anything is possible. So to you, like, what are sort of the big impediments or obstacles that the Department of Justice would have to overcome to really sort of cause problems in these states with recreational weed laws on their books? Well, you know, the first issue is one of funding. And, you know, there's the Rohrabacher-Farr, which is now the Rohrabacher-Blumenauer Amendment, which prevents Congress from appropriating funds to the Department of Justice to go after states with state medical marijuana programs. It's not anything certain. It's part of a budget that's supposed to be approved later this month. So we're not so sure budget that's supposed to be approved later this month. So we're not so sure that that's going to be, you know, approved again. And that's kept the government from going after medical marijuana.

But it doesn't cover recreational marijuana. adult use in these states is that, you know, what allows these states to, you know, have medical marijuana is that it's not, not to get too much into constitutional law, but preemption because the Controlled Substances Act, which is a federal law, deals with recreational drug use. So if the state has medical marijuana, it deals with a separate issue and it's not preempted by state law. So we need to see what's going to happen with the Rohrabacher-Blumenauer Amendment. So there's the issue of funding. We also need to look at the memo, the new Sessions memo, a little one-pager that was released today.

And the language is very interesting. And without getting into the details, basically what it appears to do is it gives basically U.S. attorneys the discretion to go after medical and recreational cannabis businesses, but it's not an absolute green light. But in combination with rescinding the Cole memo, the Ogden memo, and a bunch of other memos, which basically told the government, the federal government, to keep out absent any concern, there being any issues with minors getting cannabis. It's all up in the air. And also, do you foresee, for example, DEA agents coming through a medical marijuana dispensary and arresting people?

Obviously, the optics look bad, but it sounds like, too, there are a lot of states, like AGs, attorneys general, that are also talking real crazy. They're like, yo, don't come in here with that because we will fight for this. Absolutely. And the DEA has not been raiding dispensaries for a while. And there's a big difference now. Back when these raids were going on in 2007, 2008, these weren't licensed businesses. We now have, in states like Colorado and Washington, licensed businesses.

So, you know, the optics are never good when you have the DEA coming in and crushing little businesses. But, you know, it's especially bad when, you know, it's state sanctioned business and these are businesses that are paying taxes. And so you not only have the business owners being aggrieved, but you now have the state itself being aggrieved because they're going after businesses that are providing them with tax revenue and are licensed these through a state program. Right. So, yeah, it's a big, big difference here. Yes. It seems like it's an uphill battle. How many states is marijuana like legal recreationally, by the way?

So I haven't done the exact count. I forget. But, you know, it's Colorado, Washington, now California. I think it's about 12, but we have more and more on the way. You know, for instance, in Vermont, it's going to be the first instance of a state marijuana program, legal marijuana program being instituted by the legislature. Most of these have been through you know propositions. Voter initiatives, exactly, ballot initiatives.

So now we have states taking this issue by the reins and adopting it themselves. So the momentum is picking up. That's the big point for legalized marijuana, both adult use and medical.

So, you know, this is just something that goes completely against the will of the people of the United States. And, you know, the real big issue is that this is a state's rights issue and which states rights is a huge conservative. Yeah. Yeah. So don't tread on me yeah uh and i mean i i have i know somebody for whom this was the line like they were were down with trump up to this point and then they were like no fuck this they cannot do this yes so yeah don't tread on me Don't tread on me. Don't tread on weed. Exactly. Absolutely. And I've been saying, you know, all along that this is going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back. And, you know, I've said that Jeff Sessions doesn't have the political capital to do this.

You know, he's all tied up in the Russia investigation. So what's very interesting is that not too long ago, about a couple of weeks ago, the Department of Justice rescinded a number of guidance memos, but the Cole memo and the Ogden memo were not one of them. So it's very curious that he's just now rescinding them. And it really speaks to the possibility of this being some type of political ruse to detract attention away from the really, really bad news that's coming down on the Trump administration, you know, regarding Steve Bannon and, you know, my goodness, basically everything that's happening.

Where do you even begin? It looks like, and the pun is intended, a smoke screen. So, yeah, it's good to know. I really feel like a big reason for this is that CNN did that story. CNN was like the person who couldn't hang and went to a party. And the woman had marijuana earrings on and was holding a bong. And then Fox News was like outraged about it. And that's where the president takes all of his guidance from on policy.

So absolutely. Yeah, I should. Right. Yeah. No, they're they're brilliant. Well, thank you so much, man. This was absolutely all right. And, you know, it's my pleasure to be of any assistance in these complicated and tumultuous times.

But, you know, the will of the people will persist, but we have to keep fighting and fight for what's right. All right. Awesome, man. Thanks, Ben. You got it. Take care. All right. All right.

So it seems like just basically after that conversation and sort of what we've been reading, like, yes, this is a change of policy or a shift in sort of what the directives are, but this isn't going to be an overnight thing. Like they already opened up Pandora's box, a great strain, by the way, and they're not going to be able to close it. So yes, there's more to come. And obviously it would be so unpopular. Like this, the sentiment for legalizing weed is like at an all time high. So I just can't, it's hard to imagine this being a very popular battle all right that's gonna do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist please like and review the show if you like the show uh means the world to miles he he needs your validation folks i hope you're having a great weekend and i will talk to you Monday. Bye. Thank you. mtv's official challenge podcast is back for another season that's right the challenge is

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