The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 50 (Best of 11/12/18-11/16/18)

Episode Date: November 18, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before, try to assassinate the President of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nickname Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer,
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Starting point is 00:02:38 weekly Zeitgeist. So we all felt the chill realizing that we are soon going to be replaced by AI because late last week China released a video of an anchor and then used that to make him a puppet, essentially. Like with facial expressions and everything, using machine learning. The voice you can tell because it's so synthesized. You thought it was a... But is the body like a real robot android or is it a... It's like a deep fake, like where it's animated video. Like I'll just, you can see that's sort of what it looks like. Oh, that looks amazing.
Starting point is 00:03:23 So it's basically just... It looks exactly like real life. Yeah, it looks like a person. If you look at the mouth, you can kind see that's sort of what it looks like. Oh, that looks amazing. So it's basically just, it looks exactly like real life. Yeah, it looks like a person. If you look at the mouth, you can kind of see little sort of things here and there. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:30 it's still learning and this is a technology. I guess they're developing. But also, is it an AI that's only designed for journalism? I think this is more
Starting point is 00:03:38 just to under, like the AI is more around presenting a human looking thing that you can then just make parrot whatever quote unquote news you needed to. Because I did, when I was in the UK, I did a show called How to Survive a Disaster Movie and I had to go on a date and I was presented as the AI. So I went on a blind date with
Starting point is 00:03:57 three people and they were told, you can keep asking him questions. He'll take a while to answer and then he'll answer, right? And that's because i had a little earpiece and whenever they asked me a question the producer would put a question in this ai right feed me the answer that i and it was always very weird answers because the ai wasn't human right right and i responded quite weirdly and anything to do with emotions or whatever i you know the ai was really struggling right right right um and that's the alan turing test to see whether... Yeah, can it successfully mimic us? But yeah, I think...
Starting point is 00:04:28 But it's going to get there. Yeah. Right. It's close. It's very exciting. There's a book called Life 3.0 by Max Tegmark, who talks about...
Starting point is 00:04:38 Who is a robot himself. He could be. Max Tegmark. Yes. Max Hedrums. Max Voltage. He talks about how AI is going to... It could go in so many different paths right now.
Starting point is 00:04:47 And we're still sort of in control of the path that it could take. Right. It could go very much like we're in control of it. And if we're in control of it, is it conscious? Because if it's conscious and we're trapping it, then is that torture? Like we'd be trapping this conscious thing. If it's not conscious, if it's just a zombie system, that's AI, then that's fine. We can use it.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Like Siri's not conscious or is she? So it's really like weird because we don't even know what consciousness is. Yeah. So what can we do with AI at some point? What is it going to be like? Is it going to be alive? And if it is, what can we do? Siri, are you conscious?
Starting point is 00:05:24 Well, I do journal every day. Okay, fuck off. All right. Fuck off with your cute little line, Siri. She's fine. Get back in your box. We've successfully mimicked an asshole, Siri. On the other hand, we do have the functional equivalent of this with Wolf Blitzer in America
Starting point is 00:05:43 because he's a dumb person who will say anything you put into it yeah i mean i think this this whole thing is kind of freaky though because when you think of like china just sort of a country that loves censorship and loves like obscuring actual news like whether it's you know people who are you know dissident voices or just trying to uh you know obscure like the oppression of the Muslim Uyghur community there. I can see how now they're like, okay, let's just fucking completely remove this from human beings and we can just make it a human Twitter account.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah, it's quite scary because it depends on how it's programmed, right? Because if it's still under control of the humans, then essentially it's not AI. Well, yeah. Well, I think the AI, I think they're just using the machine learning to mimic human facial expressions in a video sense. They're still feeding it the words that it has to perform. So in that way, it's not creating the news,
Starting point is 00:06:32 but just more like, hey, we don't even need humans anymore to be journalists or anchors. I mean, pretty much every single job is going to go to AI at some point, which is pretty exciting because if the governments get it right and give us the free time
Starting point is 00:06:46 like if there's a basic universal income uh which i think america will be last to do of course it always feels like that like the basic universal income is already coming into like some european countries yeah i think netherlands is doing it or denmark something like that like a pilot program or just yeah try and just in a very located well they've done it in done it in California. They were doing it in one town in California, and I know in Canada they were doing it as well. I mean, there are places trying it, but I know you mean like, yeah, like in terms of actual, like at the federal level, they're going to be like, get back to work, slaves.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And I mean that in the capitalistic sense, not the, you know, antebellum South sense. Yeah. Let's talk about the pink tax for women commuters yeah this is really interesting yeah this is really interesting well there was yes i was perusing the usual uh news outlets and there was a survey that had emerged about uh women who are commuting in new york city and how they spend anywhere from 25 to 100 more a month than their male counterparts to specifically avoid encounters with gross men and harassment.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And so according to the survey, there's some of the stats they came up with. And there are some caveats that we'll have you keep in mind after I read these. But 75% of female respondents said they had experienced harassment or theft on public transportation compared with 47% of men. And they responded differently. 29% of women said they don't take public transportation late at 47% of men. And they responded differently. 29% of women said they don't take public transportation late at night because of it compared with 8% of male respondents. And they spent differently as well, where 42% of women said they felt safest taking four higher
Starting point is 00:08:16 vehicles like Uber, Lyft, and just 15% said they felt best on public transit. And, you know, a few things to keep in mind about this survey. It was done online. And even they themselves, the people who did the survey, they're like, our results are a little lopsided because more than like, I think 70 or 80% were college educated people. And a lot of them were Upper West Side people. So red, whiter, richer than normal, which, and they know that, but they're still saying, which begs the question, even for the people who did the survey, what of those people who don't have the flexibility or the access to alternative modes of transportation? What are their lives like and what can the city do to improve this so women aren't put in the place to have to overspend to avoid toxic male culture on the streets oh man i'm as one of the only los angeles uh commuters who does not own a car uh yeah i mean i i've never lived in new york but i've lived in
Starting point is 00:09:16 boston and la and there reaches a witching hour where you especially if you're alone you just like can't be on the train by yourself or if you, which like I've been in the position where I like couldn't afford an Uber or like you have to just be careful and make sure you don't fall asleep or like have your guard down. Or my thing was always like I don't want to be the only person in a train car with one other person. And it's usually a man. And if it's late at night, you just don't know if you're alone in a car so sometimes it would be either that i would like hop cars to find other people
Starting point is 00:09:51 right or i mean there's all sorts of like shitty strategies you have to employ to feel less nervous after a certain time yeah usually oh for sure yeah in japan they have like women only train cars uh because like there's a lot of, you know, chikan as they call it in Japanese of just perverts who like, you know, like grope women on the train. And then, yeah, Russia, because people pack the trains, they'll have cars that are just for women or like women with their kids just so they don't have to deal with like any possibility of that.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And like in the people who are behind this survey are also saying, you know, there are many things that any transportation or public transit system can do, like having more staff be visible in areas. and working in these organizations so they can actually bring their experiences or the realities of what all kinds of commuters experience into the actual implementation of these systems or whatever. I saw a dick on the bus last week, man. Yeah. But it was dealt with so well by a female bus driver who I was sitting seat over, but there was someone who, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:06 just felt the need, took his dick out. It was literally one in the afternoon on a packed bus on the two, which goes down Sunset. And the woman sitting next to me was just like, she like saw it, registered it, and then just yelled like, penis. And then the bus driver lady was like,
Starting point is 00:11:23 did someone take their dick out? And everyone was like, yes. And then she was like, get him then the bus driver lady was like did someone take their dick out and everyone was like yes and then she was like get him off the bus and then there was a guy who was like okay you need to get off the bus and it was dealt with relatively swiftly thanks to uh citizen justice everyone was looking out for each other they're like there's a dick out let's get the dick off the bus could have been much worse that's so great because that's clearly not what he was looking for. It was like so businesslike and swift. He was probably on it. Really?
Starting point is 00:11:50 I know. Yes, there. Go. Penis, go. Was the person mentally ill or do you think he was just a pervert? It seemed like there was something going on. Right, right. And it wasn't like he was handled violently, but they just got him off the bus.
Starting point is 00:12:03 The bus, right. So no longer be exposing but it's that it's like that commuter mentality that i think is like interesting that this study is finally being done because you have to just like any commuter of any gender has to just develop the like mentality of like this could happen at any moment right and the woman who who uh the woman who yelled penis the woman who cried penis uh the second he was off the bus, just like went back to reading her book. She's like studying for a test or something. See something, say something.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Fucking hero. Star Snitch. Woman rule. She just was like reading. I don't know. She went back to reading whatever she was reading. I was like, all right, cool. We should start a hall of fame of just everyday fucking heroes on this show.
Starting point is 00:12:39 That woman would be the first inductee. Again, yeah. See something, say something. I mean, I think this is, like you said, there's an inherent bias, but it just shows. Yeah, I mean, imagine how that is in any other city. Because, I mean, I lived in New York for eight years. The subways are not just only men
Starting point is 00:12:56 because all the women can afford to take cars everywhere. Like, it's 50-50, and it's just those women are in a really shitty situation. Well, they said it's even worse if you're a breadwinner or you're you're the caretaker within your family because then you have your kids to also consider and that can factor into like avoiding certain modes of transportation to also protect your children and then and then imagine on top of that like just for people who don't have the you know again the money to be like you know what i'm just taking a
Starting point is 00:13:23 cab or uber well you, like uptown or whatever. Think about rent. I mean, like, you know, you have a whole host of, you know, living options that aren't available to you, right? Like, because, you know, you don't want to live in a building that doesn't have, you know, certain things that make you feel safe. So you don't want to live in a building where the laundry room is in like a basement with one swinging light bulb above it. It's like, why is it always swinging? Did someone hit it?
Starting point is 00:13:51 It's just always swinging. But then even if you're in an Uber or Lyft, there's so many studies that even that is not historically super safe for women either. So it's just like, you know. Which is why we're pro open carry here at the Davies. You should be able to drink a beer wherever you want. That's exactly what I meant.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Crazy shit was happening in the Los Angeles, just all up and down California over the weekend, you know, particularly in the city of Thousand Oaks where they were just, you know, processing a mass shooting at a nightclub that Miles used to go sneak into when he was underage. And that it was still like an extremely fresh wound, and then a wildfire ripped through that same town.
Starting point is 00:14:41 But just all up and down California, there were, again, you know, I remember, I think it was last year, wildfires happened that had people, firefighters and climate experts and everybody being like, this is unprecedented, but this is the new normal because of climate change. And now, you know, we're seeing yet another, this is going to be the biggest wildfire in the history of the state of California. This one is? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Wasn't the last one the biggest one? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The one like that was two months ago? Yeah, yeah. It just keeps getting. New one. Yeah. Did you guys see it?
Starting point is 00:15:19 Yeah. So on Friday, when I was leaving my house, I like was just pulling out, and it looked like there was a volcano. The only thing I've ever seen like it is footage of Mount St. Helen because there was just this column of ash just going straight up in the air
Starting point is 00:15:36 because the wildfire just went from not being there to being huge in the matter of an hour. So it was just suddenly all the smoke was pouring into the sky and by saturday morning there was ash like snowing from the sky like on my neighborhood so yeah it's pretty pretty crazy and i think i think everybody was dealing with that everybody oh the air was terrible i was i was just trying to do stuff on the weekend i had a bane mask on yeah I was riding a bike. Unrelated.
Starting point is 00:16:07 To be fair, you've never not had a Bane mask on. That's true. Well, I was born in the darkness. Yeah, and then I fell on my bike. That's a side story. I'm not meaning to make it about me. But yeah, the fire tore through. And that's the real tragedy. And that's the real tragedy. I fell on my bike.
Starting point is 00:16:23 And I hurt my back. If anyone has any tips, let me know. But yeah, especially there are parts of like Agora Hills. I have friends whose family members lost their houses tragically out there. And yeah, it looks like, I mean, people all over the area suffered from these wildfires. And then, you know, while Trump was out in France disrespecting the Americans who lost their lives in World War I and all the people who lost their lives in World War I, he was like just in his hotel room tweeting some shit like, well, if these fires don't stop,
Starting point is 00:16:55 I'm not going to give you all any more money. Right. He was blaming California firefighters for this. And also just one fact about that, the federal government manages 40% of that. of that so right manages 40 of the land and the land where the fire started so uh smoke that one homie yeah but uh yeah it it's making me wonder like i don't know how are people still openly behind this dude like when a racist guy in the midwest is like saying to his wife and i guess they're everywhere race guy anywhere is like you know he's shitting on traditional american heroes while they're fighting fires like don't we have to stop driving around to like his rallies like
Starting point is 00:17:39 isn't this like right just against everything the other thing that like about this fire in particular was like there were a lot of high profile famous people affected by it. And I was like, well, maybe he'll give a fuck now that because he doesn't give a fuck about regular people. Maybe I'll give a fuck about it. But he just doesn't give a fuck. It's a lot of his critics, too. I'm sure. He's like, he's like Alyssa Milano's horses don't care.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah. Turn of the glue. Conservatives on Twitter, like MAGA Twitter, was using this as an opportunity to be like, ah, look at. don't care like it's yeah turn of the glue conservatives on twitter like mega twitter was using this as an opportunity to be like ah look at these triggered libs ha by their homes burning down their lives burning down um come on now yeah it became sort of a political thing which guillermo del toro's museum house yeah oh his house burned down too I never got to see
Starting point is 00:18:26 I think I believe it did I mean I know Anna Jose was really affected because the bachelor house burned down yeah
Starting point is 00:18:33 the bachelor mansion she came in with a fucking tattoo on her face the day it happened I was like damn that was quick the Westworld set like the old Westtown
Starting point is 00:18:42 where a bunch of westerns but most recently the Westworld movie was set there. No, Deadwood, like they built their own. Oh, did they shoot it in the Dakotas? No, they built their own town, but it got torn down fairly recently. But maybe they were shooting the Westworld. It burned down in that other fire.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Yeah. God. But yeah, so Westworld, they're going to have to rebuild Westworld, essentially. Yeah, who else? Miley Cyrus' house burned down. Yeah, a Westworld, they're going to have to rebuild Westworld, essentially. Yeah, we lost Miley Cyrus' house burned down. Yeah, a bunch of celebrities. Neil Young's house burned down. Two of the original Charmed members,
Starting point is 00:19:13 Alyssa Milano and Holly Marie Combs. Jesus. And James Wood, there was all sorts of weird bipartisan celebrity Twitter coming together where James Wood is like, we got to save these horses. And then they end up saving the horses. And then I found a horse hack. If there's a fire and your horses are in danger, you spray paint your phone number on them and then you let them go.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Oh, interesting. Horse hacks with Jamie. Horse hacks. Damn. That's really cool. Your horse in trouble does what you do. Did James Woods? Did Woodsy tell you about that?
Starting point is 00:19:42 James Woods literally tweeted at Alyssa Milano, spray paint your phone number on the horses and set them free. I was like, whoa, cool. Because they just will have better instincts than our horse trailer asses. Or just waiting for someone to get there and save them. Which is funny because he's Mr. Maga himself. No, he is. Yeah, right? For him to all be, I wonder what they think too.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Wouldn't he clap back on right wing Twitter who's like, yeah, serves him right? He's like, hey, asshole, this. Yeah, Alyssa Milano had to tweet be, like, I wonder what they think, too. Like, wouldn't he clap back on right-wing Twitter who's like, yeah, serves him right? He's like, hey, asshole, this. Yeah, Alyssa Milano had to tweet out later, like, listen, I needed horse tips. James Woods happened to be the person who had the best horse tip. I'm sorry. I've been horse hacked. Yeah. He also found a way to, like, make it, for some reason, the hashtag was, like, James Woods.
Starting point is 00:20:22 James Woods fire, yeah. Yeah, James Woods fire. James Woods started the fire. Which was weird. There's also some weird Mad Max post-apocalyptic shit with Kim and Kanye paid for a private fire battalion to fight the fire in their neighborhood and saved a bunch of the houses in their neighborhood
Starting point is 00:20:41 by hiring these firefighters to stop the fire from catching onto their properties but so usually it's just really random like we we know all sorts of people who's uh i know people whose houses burn down i know people whose houses super producer sophie was talking about a friend whose like house was the only thing on the block that didn't burn down but it's like usually just completely random because there's these embers just sort of floating through the air. And one might land on your roof. Yeah, if it lands on your roof, your house burns down. If it happens to hit a gust of wind at that moment
Starting point is 00:21:15 and pass to your neighbors, their house burns down. Damon Dash also was a person whose house was the only one in the neighborhood to not burn down. The photos were wild of just his home and the only one in the neighborhood to not burn down. Like it was in the photos were wild of just like his home and the cursed earth. But up North in Northern California, this town called paradise, which has just been a fucking factory of shitty headlines,
Starting point is 00:21:35 uh, about paradise lost. Uh, but this town just was not like that at all. It was just like scorched earth, the entire place burned down, like the entire town. And if you look at footage from that,
Starting point is 00:21:48 it's, and all the, all the firefighters and wildfire experts are like, yeah, this is not what's supposed to happen. Like you're supposed to, like fire goes where it's easiest for it to catch, but this just like burned everything.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Right. Like when you look at footage from there, it looks like the aftermath of the Terminator 2. try to clear detonation especially when you have trump again trying to weaponize it against like the state of california when people are losing their lives it's just it's not leadership but i was i have a question is there like a like a fucking black water for firefighters i don't know mercenary firefighters right like like you go to a bar and you're like hey like you find that to a bar and you're like, hey. Like you find that old legend firefighter.
Starting point is 00:22:27 You're like, I got a fire that needs fighting. Yeah. He's like, I don't do that. I was two days away from retirement. I don't do that anymore. He's like, I've got a million dollars. Maybe one last job. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:38 He's just out there saving Kanye's house. It's called One Last Job. Sounds like a bad Clint Eastwood movie. Yeah. Don't worry. That's being written. It's called One Last Job. Sounds like a bad Clint Eastwood movie. Yeah. Don't worry. That's being written. It's in the process. One of the nice things that I heard in the follow-up of this is that Airbnb was encouraging people who live just outside evacuation zones to make their homes open to people who had been evacuated. So there has been largely at least places of shelter.
Starting point is 00:23:08 And the same for like there was like a big over the weekend, a bunch of my friends took in animals from the area and are like fostering animals. Right from the shelters that had to be evacuated, right? Yeah, yeah. So it's good that people are taking care of each other, but motherfucking global warming. Also be vigilant if you're in one of those
Starting point is 00:23:25 situations because we interviewed somebody who had a situation like this happened to their town up in canada uh like their entire town burned down and uh in the evacuation zones like all these like fraud like rocksters hucksters like poured in to like take advantage because anytime there's like an emergency they know people are vulnerable they know that it's gonna be easy just like financial shit and i think robbing people and stuff like that um yeah so that's a bummer but it is good to hear that i'm sure not everyone is that way uh so just yeah just kidding don't let anyone in your house, especially if they need shelter. Yeah. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.
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Starting point is 00:24:39 You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.
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Starting point is 00:25:28 I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. They lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team?
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Starting point is 00:27:08 This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.
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Starting point is 00:28:07 Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Well, Papa John's, guys. Smooth transition to Papa John's because he's back. He's back. He is back. In legal trouble. He already did that at the time with that fucking headline a second time he is back well you know we've been closely monitoring the downfall
Starting point is 00:28:34 of papa john's and i know that people some someone came at me sideways on twitter was like actually papa john's is the best pizza i strongly disagree and I would check your blood sugar, sir. But this shit is too sweet. And again, look, he said racist shit on his earnings call using the N-word. He has hot tits. Not the person on Twitter. I'm talking about Papa John
Starting point is 00:28:57 Schnatter. Is that his name right? Schattery. Mr. Sweat Bomb himself. He's just a whack dude. And we've been watching, kind of laughing gleefully how his business has been going down the tubes. But now it's gotten to the point where the franchisees, the people who have their own little Papa John's operation, they're trying to get their living through this cursed brand.
Starting point is 00:29:21 They're now trying to lawyer up because they're like okay dude you fucked us over so bad like it's it's hurting my business now because of the outward image that mr papa has created so now they are trying to say like yo what's good we got to do something because they're saying uh what sales plunged almost 10 the last quarter and the like the parent company's been doing a lot of giving them marketing budgets and other financial assistance because they're kind of like, yeah, we know it's kind of shitty right now. But I think now,
Starting point is 00:29:51 I think the lawyers are kind of being like, okay, we're going to have to really figure something out here. You need to explain something. Yeah, you can sue him because once he's out and you're the board, you've forced him out. He's just costing you money at this point, right? But again, I feel bad if you had a business on your own
Starting point is 00:30:12 and you had your Papa John's and doing all that. So I hope the parent company gives them what they need or can find a way to keep them afloat or rebrand. I don't know. Well, it's a bunch of, like it's all franchisees, right? A lot of men. Yeah, a lot of different people who are small business owners who own individual Papa John's,
Starting point is 00:30:32 and they're getting screwed by this multi-hundred millionaire, sweaty, cokehead, alcoholic. Allegedly, allegedly. Allegedly, allegedly. Allegedly, look at the photos. We should start a GoFundMe to get little signs that say sucks and then
Starting point is 00:30:48 send them to the franchisees so they'll be like, hey, Papa John's sucks. Get some pizza so I can pay my rent. I'm a rebel Papa John's. Yeah, I'm a renegade Papa John's franchisee, bitch. You can have that idea for free.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I still want to look into how Papa John's became so popular in the first place. I think it's just the sugar. It's like because America had so much sugar in their blood, it was like everything needed to have some sugar in it just to get back to base level, like the way a drug addict needs to get right by having a couple bumps. Oh, it's really bad. You never had Papa John's? No, I didn't grow up near any, though. Are they not
Starting point is 00:31:30 really around in Boston? They weren't around where I grew up. Yeah, we had Little Caesars and we had Papagino's. We were more of a Gino's district. New England is weird when it comes to fast food. It has sort of its own universe. We also don't have a lot of subways.
Starting point is 00:31:46 We have D'Angelo's. Yeah. Do they have the sub untitled? How does it feel? All the guys are just ripped and you can kind of see their dicks when they're making this D'Angelo video. Slowly rotating.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Can I have less pubic hair in my tuna salad? That's gross. A watchdog group is trying to end something called freak shakes in the UK. Miles, that I didn't even know about that you told me about. Well, you know, I didn't know the term freak shake, but this group Action on Sugar, they're trying to, at the very least, label like ovary sugary milkshakes, if not outright ban them. Wait, ovary sugary? Ovary.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I'm sorry. Ovary. Ovary sugary. Ovary sugary. Ovary sugary. The sweet taste of ovary. It's delicious. And it's, you know, it can't be replaced.
Starting point is 00:32:37 But yeah, these things they've labeled as freak shakes are just things that are like a thousand plus calorie milkshakes with like,hakes with like 10 times the daily sugar you would need for a human being. So one that they point out to is a place in UK, Toby Carvey. And I could be saying that all wrong because I've never been there. So it could be Toby Carvey. I don't know. Holler at me in my mentions and shame me. But they have a thing called the Unicorn Freak Shake. And it has 1,280 calories as well as over six times the recommended daily amount of sugar for children.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And I guess so that's like around 39 teaspoons. And then they also called out the Five Guys Banana and Chocolate Shake, 1,073 calories with the equivalent of sugar of more than four cans of Coca-Cola. Well, that's not bad then. Yeah, well, by comparison, right? than four cans of Coca-Cola. Now, well, that's not bad, then. Yeah, well, by comparison, right? So they also, in this article,
Starting point is 00:33:29 they talk about the medium Butterfinger Blizzard from DQ only has 730 calories, okay? So fall back. When the Butterfinger Blizzard is like your, like, control where they're like, see, you could be as good for people as the Butterfinger Blizzard. I just, you know, I like the peanut buster parfait, to honest if i'm at dq getting my q on is that what what is the peanut buster it's just like a bunch of peanuts and sugar and it's just it's like soft serve with like
Starting point is 00:33:55 hot fudge and peanuts so if you like peanuts you know that's the way to do it i'm a big butterfinger blizzard guy big buddy blizz guy buddy you know I understand what they're trying to do because obviously for young kids, you can't be giving a child that. But look, if I'm a fucking weird adult and I'm just trying to act out my childhood fantasies where my mom's like, you can have two scoops of ice cream. You know what? Let me be an adult and make those wild decisions for myself and drink the two pound milkshake from McConnell's ice cream.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Well, maybe they should come with like, you know how like cigarettes have warnings on them where it's like they show you a diseased lung? Like what if they just show you like the amount of sugar that is in there and then like what you'll look like after you drink it? Or like a necrotizing toe for diabetes or something. Wait, so you're saying sugar is bad for kids? I don't know. Wait, we had it and I'm fine. I was going to say action saying sugar is bad for kids? I don't know. Wait, we had it, and I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I was going to say, action on sugar is just a description of what my kids are like every day. Yeah. All right. Yeah, sure. I hear that's a real thing, though, huh? Kids get real hopped up on their sugar, huh? Yeah. Well, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:34:59 After actually Halloween, my friends who have kids were posting videos of their kids off their fucking heads. And I was like, wow. Yeah. I don't want that at all. My son is still talking about Halloween because he got like three lollipops. Oh, wow. That whole night and was just. That's like the memory he's holding on to.
Starting point is 00:35:19 So you like have all three, like chain smoke all three of them at the same time. There's something like inherent to the human mind about, the appeal of sugar because he was handing out candy with me and, like, couldn't let go of it. Like, he was just, like, the kids had to, like, pry it out. I'm sick, Dad. I need it, man. This needs to go in me. Yeah. Anyways, the war on sugar that's probably like the
Starting point is 00:35:45 health craze of the future or yeah well I mean it's terrible I mean the amounts of sugar we're eating are like just
Starting point is 00:35:51 astronomic astronomical it's in everything too like things that you consider healthy like orange juice and bread and juice is really bad
Starting point is 00:36:00 orange juice has so much sugar in it like a lot of juice I mean if orange juice is really pulpy you're at least getting fiber in it. Like a lot of juice. I mean, if orange juice is really pulpy, you're at least getting fiber, but there's a lot of fruit juice that's almost, if not just as bad as soda. It's just flavored sugar drink. Yeah. It's important to remember that all fruits that we have currently, like people get worried about genetically modified organisms. All of our fruits are made in a lab to be like extra full of sugar.
Starting point is 00:36:27 They're just like specifically bred with other fruits until like bananas used to look like tiny little bird shits. Yeah. They looked exactly like bird shit. They taste like caterpillar. But yeah, when you look at what they originally looked like and what they look like now, it's like, oh, these are all man-made things. And so orange juice is just like finding a natural way to produce candy that is liquid.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I remember like when that whole, like, you know, years ago when they're like, just check how much sugar is in your juice. And I used to drink like naked juice all the time. And I looked, I'm like, man, there's no way this, oh my God. It was like fucking 40 grams of sugar and a mango oh and also yeah and i was reminding me of my uh horrible addiction to kern's nectars yes uh which is essentially like concentrate yeah uh uncut and yeah so what i get bad headaches and i pass out every time I drink one. Katie, you grew up in Southern California. You know of Kern Nectars? I do, yes.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Kerns? Yeah, Kerns. I mean, I had very strict parents growing up. So I don't remember drinking all that much fruit juice. I think mostly I got chocolate milk, which I don't know if that's any better. Right. No, I'm the same way. Like my mom, we didn't have soda or anything.
Starting point is 00:37:48 So I would have to go to my neighbor's house. Shout out to the Shrek family. Not to be confused with the DreamWorks animation. They had like, you know, we didn't have. Sorry, it's just going to happen. Yeah. I'm going to confuse them. It's the Shreks.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Yes. And Donkey was my, was their friend. So you like hit them up for Kearns? Well, no, because they had like the quintessential American sort of thing where they had a refrigerator in the garage and it was only just sodas and shit. I was like, so I would just go wild.
Starting point is 00:38:13 What's with like garage fridges and the bounty that they have? I don't know. That's a thing. Yo, shout out to Americans. Because my grandpa had a garage fridge and it had like, had fudge pops and soda and candy and cocaine.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Just all the best stuff. Like a human skull. It was amazing. And when I was good, we'd get to have licks of the skull. And it was made of cocaine. So there's a little feud going on between the NRA and a lot of people, actually. The NRA has an enemies list that includes the American Bar Association, the AARP, and Bon Jovi?
Starting point is 00:38:59 Yeah, for sure. Yeah. No, for sure. Bon Jovi. Even though he had that song from Young Guns. You'd think that they would be cool. I'm a literal young gun. But apparently one of their biggest, their arch nemesis is-
Starting point is 00:39:14 Big Beef. The field of medicine as a whole. Oh, yeah. Right, because they do research and shit. Right, right, right. So the American College of Physicians published a position paper outlining the need to reduce firearm violence, Right, right, right. which would involve like physicians counseling patients to, you know, if somebody's injured in a gun incident that like you would counsel them. Like if a kid in a house gets to a gun,
Starting point is 00:39:52 then the physicians would be prepared with like statistics and also like, you know, be trained to help that person, you know, make the right decision about leaving their guns laying around where kids are playing. And they also suggested some legislation, like, you know, some educational programs and laws prohibiting convicted domestic violence offenders from owning guns. Oh, that's just bullshit, dude. Right? That's such a crazy thing because, like, one of the patterns you see with these mass shooters,
Starting point is 00:40:22 almost every single one has had some issue, either domestic violence or violence against women or sexual assault. It's such a pattern. It's incredible. Yeah, but what's that based on? Your research? Your fucking Harvard doctor? That's like their stance, essentially. Domestic violence victims need to be armed.
Starting point is 00:40:44 That's what we're saying the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun after doing domestic violence is domestic violence with a gun before the bad guy with the gun oh god here we're gonna work it out for you guys in a uh in a diagram yeah we're gonna flow chart that one for you and we'll put it up on our instagram but they also tweeted out in addition to firing back with an article of their own that was based on no research. Oh, the NRA tweeted this? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:11 They tweeted an article that were like, we wrote a paper. We can write words. Idiots. They also tweeted that doctors should stay in their lane. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. Way to capture the voice of a generation. We're the gun people.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Why don't you guys sit down in your little ORs with your, with your little scrubs and do your little operation. Right. We don't need you. And if I end up in one of your hospitals, don't fucking touch me. And the annoying thing is that I have more infuriating thing is that it is possible to kind of shoot holes, so to speak. I didn't mean to do that.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I didn't mean to. I'm going to excuse my first Tucker Carlson thing now. Shoot holes, bits. In the research paper because there just isn't that much research on gun control issues. Because it's been chilled, right? Right. By the NRA. It's been killed by the NRA.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Chilled, another way of putting it. A cooler way. So you don't say killed, Jack. Right. NRA and chill. Yeah. NRA and chill. Just to touch on the whole thing, we've talked about this.
Starting point is 00:42:21 I mean, I feel like every time there's a shooting and we did a whole thing on like the history of the nra's just sordid behavior and shit that they basically have made it so groups like the cdc can do no meaningful research to try and actually quantify and offer analysis on just how dangerous gun ownership and gun crime is in this country. So everyone's like, I don't know where your stats that we have suppressed completely. Right. Exactly. We leave that to like private organizations to try and do that. Right. But we as, you know, the CDC could do them, you know, could do a good job too.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Anyway. You know, you have a strong position when it's like, don't look into this. Right. A lot of doctors were, you know, saying, do you have any idea how many bullets I pull out of corpses weekly? This isn't just my lane. It's my fucking highway, bro. They didn't end it with bro. But it did say, this isn't
Starting point is 00:43:13 just my lane. It's my fucking highway. It was the exact tweet. And they dropped a scalpel like a mic. Yeah, exactly. But then it was on their foot. God damn it. That was cool, though. So sharp. And somebody said, hey, at NRA, want to see my lane? Here's the chair I sit in when I tell parents their kids are dead.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Oh my gosh. How dare you tell me I can't research evidence-based solutions. This is my lane. This is our lane. So I don't know. I find that fairly convincing. Yeah, I saw one where they're showing a picture of their scrubs that was just like covered in blood and like hey here's my lane this is my scrubs after
Starting point is 00:43:51 treating a shooting victim who died on the or well you know i think they the nra definitely sees that the clock is ticking in terms of their influence because it's already like even in florida they were able to get a lot of nra backed politicians out. I mean, they're still a very powerful lobbying organization, but they're starting to get more like flagrant with their rhetoric. I mean, it's like, especially with like the, I mean, it started with all the Dana Lash stuff and even beyond that. But like, I don't know, I think you can tell that they're seeing that America's changing in a way that's slowly kind of coming against them. The only way to stop change in America about guns is not change with a gun. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:32 We'll workshop that. Don't bring legislation to a gunfight. All right, pal? This is our lane. Exactly. They're so entrenched just in ways that I didn't realize at first. But like all these like NRA clubs for like high schoolers and like, you know, they teach the classes on gun safety. So like they just have their-
Starting point is 00:44:52 Here's Gunny the gun. Right, exactly. So I don't know. I wouldn't underestimate the NRA. No, I wouldn't. But I think, you know, I think FedEx finally cut ties with them. Like more businesses, you know, it's taking time. They're starting to realize like this wasn't the case five years ago.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Right. So I think at the very least on a continuum, you could say. I feel like they're going to just like start lobbying to like make doctors replace all their surgical instruments with guns. Right. Like, well, we're going to have to operate and aim very carefully towards the aorta. Right. Like you need a background check for that scalpel.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Yeah. Hey, it's been done before. The Listerine invented gingivitis because they used to just be a place where doctors would keep their surgical implements to like soak them so they wouldn't have germs on them. And then they were like, this does not have a future. Someone's gonna
Starting point is 00:45:41 invent something better. So they were like, wash your mouth out with it. What? For real? Yeah, that's where Listerine comes from. So it's a barbicide for doctor's tools? It was a barbicide for doctor's tools. So when I just chug that barbicide, that's okay?
Starting point is 00:45:55 Yeah, that's fine. I was asking, why is your tongue green? I'm supposed to chug Listerine. I have the freshest of breath. I know, but it gets you fucked up quicker. Have you ever had original Listerine? The yellow one? Yo, my grandpa used to swish that shit around. I remember
Starting point is 00:46:09 when I was four years old, like burn my fucking tongue off. It just doesn't even taste like it's supposed to go in the mouth. No, it's like nail polish remover. What's your favorite nail polish remover to drink? Oh, definitely just the CVS Brown. Oh, you're fancy. It's cheap.
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Starting point is 00:50:30 or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Alright, Nick, drop that conspiracy music, because Fox has not tweeted. Fox News has not tweeted in five days following a long ass meeting between rupert murdoch and someone down well actually technically six and if at the time of this recording it will be six days could possibly be a whole fucking week right that
Starting point is 00:51:00 they haven't tweeted and their explanation is it's a protest against Twitter's handling of Tucker Carlson's lie from last week. Yeah, pretty much. You didn't take his lie seriously enough? Yeah, they said they wanted to stay silent while protesting how, quote, Twitter handled posts targeting Tucker Carlson, specifically ones that included his address. Hmm, interesting.
Starting point is 00:51:24 He does that on his website all the time, though. I wonder, I wonder if he, uh. Mr. Doxo over here. Has any things to say about, uh, maybe he should stop that too. Right. And then other people were like, you know, Drudge deleted all his tweets, but that's like. Drudge.
Starting point is 00:51:39 He doesn't all the time. He doesn't all the time. He doesn't all the time. He doesn't all the time. He doesn't all the time. He doesn't all the time. He doesn't all the time. So there are a lot of conspiracies swirling, you know, because they noticed other accounts hadn't done anything like recently to like WikiLeaks had gone dark and Rudy Giuliani's thing.
Starting point is 00:51:51 And the one that was very interesting to me, which is why we have a little bit of a conspiracy here. This is left wing QAnon shit. Yeah, exactly. Someone said, I think I know what's up now. Just figure that out, guys. Way to start that post, my man. Well, woman, I don't know who this person was, but it says. I think I've decided what's going on.
Starting point is 00:52:09 It says, U.S. attorneys do not just work on national holidays. Murdoch is meeting with McConnell at his office. Matt Drudge has deleted his Twitter account. Not true. WikiLeaks is silent. I suspect that Mueller has confiscated all of their accounts with a court order. Rupert meeting with Mitch on a holiday can only mean one thing. Something big is about to happen.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Very big. It could be a Mueller press conference. Would that be that big? Yeah, Jesus Christ. Well, somebody was saying that recently, that one of the smart ways he's played his hand is that he's been completely silent. You haven't heard his voice. He could come out and be like, hey guys!
Starting point is 00:52:46 You'd be like, oh shit! Like the first time you heard David Beckham talk. And then he says, you know what I think it's going to be? As I said back in March, I think Mueller is filing a RICO case against all of them. Fight me! Fight me! What a weird way to end that post.
Starting point is 00:53:01 The first sentence is, I think I know what's up now. It ends with fight me. I think this know what's up now. Yeah. And it ends with, fight me. Fight me. Uh-huh. I think this person also knows it's kind of stupid, but I think it's definitely some fantasy.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Also, this, that we've, you've blocked out their name. It says, added five new photos. Right. Like, is it like, here's Mueller,
Starting point is 00:53:20 and here he is. Right. And he's in an airport, and here's a U.S. attorney. Here's the holiday. It's all connected. Here's what the he is. Right. And he's in an airport, and here's a U.S. attorney. Here's the holiday. It's all connected. Here's what the holiday is. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Here's a picture of a calendar. Here's the calendar. That is a, quote, holiday. That's what the day is. Mitch McConnell would never meet with someone on Veterans Day. We all know that. If there's one thing we know about Mitch McConnell, it's this completely arbitrary thing I just made up. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Yeah. I mean, this seems like it's reaching. I do think the Mueller silence has people kind of wondering what's going to happen because he had gone quiet for the election, supposedly, and there were a lot of different people talking about that he might be doing some things behind the scenes, getting ready to indict various people. Junior, yeah. Junior's up.
Starting point is 00:54:09 DJ TG. Doju. DJ TJ. But there's been nothing, so I think certain people on the left are getting a little antsy, getting a little restless. Well, I think there are probably more indictments coming. No, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Oh, yeah. I think so. I think that's fair. I mean, like everyone's going to be indicted. I just don't know if we're going to get hit with that fucking he's like everyone's gonna just don't know we're gonna get hit with that fucking puerto rico oh i don't know right like i mean this is all i mean the fact that muller's so quiet he's just he's just a serious man yes he takes his job seriously and he saw what ken star did like it's like don't make he's like the less people know the less they can
Starting point is 00:54:41 fucking obscure what's going on yeah no i'm gonna do my job and i like i've never smiled in my life and i'm gonna keep that up right for this i look like that eagle from the muppets i think everyone is so so like set and obsessed with the idea that like muller's gonna fix everything and like this is it he's gonna like yeah bannon's gonna be executed like i saw like louise mensch tweet like that bannon's she like heard from a source that he's like gonna be executed something for treason a source that he's going to be executed or something for treason. It's unbelievable. And so you're hinging all your hopes on the results of this investigation because it does seem like it's the only way to get rid of him.
Starting point is 00:55:15 We're still going to live in hell world after this. It's still going to be hell world until somebody does something electorally to get this dude out. My God. I love the desperation, though, of some people who just want the nightmare to be over. We all want it to be over. Yeah, we do. Okay, look, but let's be real. This is not – even if what he has really just shows, lays bare all of the transgressions of this campaign and this administration, it's only going to pour more fuel on the fire.
Starting point is 00:55:43 And you're going to see the right get even more wacky and be like, they're stealing everything. Right. It's all like thinking that this is going to solve anything just means you haven't been paying attention for three years. Right. Like what he gets away with, what he wants to do, what people let him get away with and how people react to him just being like, I didn't say that. I didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:56:02 It's all, it's all the deep state. Like, yeah, it's not gonna. And look at this. We don't even care about the't say that. I didn't do it. It's all the deep state. Like, it's not going to. And look at this. We don't even care about the pee tape anymore. I know. Come on, guys. What have we become? I mean, I don't care about it just because I know it's real.
Starting point is 00:56:13 And like, you know, what are you going to do? Are you going to watch it? Are you going to not watch it? We're going to see it. We're going to not see it. It doesn't matter. It's real. They had their window to drop the pee tape.
Starting point is 00:56:21 They missed it. Right. They missed it. And now it's going to do horribly on the charts. It'll be like Chinese democracy. It'll come out way too late once nobody cares anymore. It'll be all poorly produced. And all right.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Well, guys, I have to move on to this next story because, boy, do I have egg on my face. This is the last time I put my good name on the line to support Tucker Carlson. I didn't know I was doing that. I just came out as anti-intimidating his children. But I got a lot of feedback from people who suggested I was Team Tucky Babies after last week's episode. Tuck Team. Tuck Team. Team Tuck.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Team Tuck. I do stand by the fact that we shouldn't physically intimidate the loved ones of even war criminals, but especially their kids. But you're not saying avoid direct action against people like Tucker Carlson. And I think the way you saw the story too was the version where people were getting like wilding out. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Right. Yeah. Right. And I think I'm also biased against this sort of thing because I grew up in a small town where my dad was the basketball coach. And like a bunch of people, when the team was really bad, like came and put for sale signs on our front lawn and stuff. And that was kind of scary to be like, oh, people who hate us want us to leave town. Right. Yeah. What if you got like a really good offer, though, on your house? Right.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Too young for him to understand. I get that it's intimidation, but... Right. It was a hot market. I mean, where'd they get all these signs? But anyways, as I should have guessed, it turns out this whole thing was Tucker Carlson looking for an excuse to get his base of white supremacists fired up
Starting point is 00:58:06 about the coming totally unfair anti-white supremacist battle because there's no evidence of any damage to any door. That was kind of the point that people were focused on and that I thought was sort of suggested that the behavior was a little more violent than would be optimal, that they had like cracked his front door. That was something that he came out and claimed that they had like cracked the door by like beating on it.
Starting point is 00:58:38 And people have found the police reports from the incident. And, you know, you would expect them to focus on the main thing. Right. The broken door, the fact that they broke the door. But nope, nothing. It was a spray paint of an anarchy symbol in the driveway, I think, that they reported about. Yeah. And they also had those people who protested, they brought legal observers.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Right. On their behalf to be like, just so you know, we have people here who are here for receipts of what happened here. Yeah. So it seems like it was more well-planned and less out of control than I thought. So I am going back. I will no longer be wearing my bow tie
Starting point is 00:59:18 in solidarity with Tucker Carlson. And yeah, fuck that guy. I still stand by the fact that I don't think we should intimidate children of Adolf Hitler even. Right. But you know what? But the thing is, that wasn't happening. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:59:32 So that's the thing. But we get what you're saying, Jack. Yes. And you are uncanceled. And now I will speak to you when we're both in the bathroom. Okay. When we are both in the bathroom. We should, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Oh, yeah, I guess people don't realize that we have the one person bathroom. Okay. Well, what were you going to say? Oh, just, I think like, like people complain about the,
Starting point is 00:59:52 like McConnell's at a restaurant and you're like, yeah, we don't like you and boo. I think that's good. Cause that's nonviolent. like it's mild harassment maybe at worst, but it's like, that's a form of protest yes so as long as you're not yeah i mean i agree like don't attack children and but like if you're just
Starting point is 01:00:14 protesting like the actual dude and if they're in public and you're like hey you suck yeah you know or like organizing a protest uh outside their office um I remember one, I think, oh, what's her name? The one who was like, not McCaskill. Sarah Suckabee Henders? Sarah Sucks? Susan Collins? No, the one, remember with the child separations? Kirsten Nielsen?
Starting point is 01:00:38 Kirsten Nielsen, that's one. Outside of her home, they were playing the sounds of children crying. That she had literally caused? Her children crying. That she had literally caused. Her children crying. No, no, no. Yeah, the children crying that were in the facilities that had been separated. And to me, that is like you are bringing the suffering to them directly. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:00:58 And that is a good protest. So I think that it's not black and white. It's not like never protest them at their homes, never protest them out in public. I think it's just like, yeah, don't harass their families, but protest. And even if her children were scared by hearing that, she was literally causing that. So she should have to answer some uncomfortable questions. Hey, don't put your family at risk by being a fucking racist. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:27 How about that? Is that simple? You know what I mean? Yeah. And, you know, know what you're doing and know what the, like, yeah, anyway. And part of my concern is also that it, like, is a bad look if you are, like, trying to beat down someone's door while their family's inside and they're at work. But obviously, again, that wasn't what's happening.
Starting point is 01:01:45 And also, just on his kids and his wife's behalf, there's no chance that they don't fucking hate him. Like, they definitely hate Tucker. Well, like anyone who has a dad who wears a bow tie. It's like, fuck dad. Jesus Christ, man. Wait till they're teenagers and you're like, well, can we go to Rick's house? He's like, no, dude, his dad, Tucker, is a fucking douche.
Starting point is 01:02:04 He doesn't even have a garage fridge. Oh, no, he's got a garage deep freeze, probably. His fridge is full of mayonnaise and Brussels sprouts. Mayonnaise and Rockstar Energy Drink, which they blend together in a freak shape. Oh, Jesus. Let's talk about the last week in the world of Trump. He went to France to commemorate the fallen soldiers of World War I with other leaders
Starting point is 01:02:30 and just took multiple Ls. Left and right. Yes. Just constantly. Good God. Just like he was stepping on rake after rake. Like sideshow Bob Terwilliger. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:43 So, you know, we sort of briefly mentioned this yesterday, but there was a moment for him to go visit a cemetery where there are 50,000 American soldiers being that were laid there to rest. And he basically gave the excuse like, oh, the weather's too bad. Yes. And then people were like, what the fuck? You won't even go see American fallen soldiers? What do you mean? And he's like, well, it was actually, uh, the motorcade wouldn't be able to get there.
Starting point is 01:03:07 And then he blamed the secret service about the helicopter not being lent. All this to say is that he didn't want people to see his wet hair look because that would have, you would have seen the secrets of his scalp. It was wet. Oh yeah. I think the, like as terrible looking as he normally is,
Starting point is 01:03:25 I think Trump with his hair dry versus Trump with his hair wet would be like a raccoon with their hair dry. Right. Or a hairless raccoon is like the scariest looking thing you've ever seen. Like a wet mouse. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it would just look, yeah, because he's doing so many tricks.
Starting point is 01:03:43 There's not enough product you can put in there when Mother Earth starts spitting karma on your scalp. It's a very delicately assembled feat of physics. And any momentum downwards is going to mess with it. That's why I like wind. He doesn't fuck with wind. Yeah. He doesn't like anything that reveals.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Anyway, so that was a huge. Yeah, and didn't he throw his Secret Service under the bus? Yeah, he was like, they told me. Literally, the people who can't say anything bad about the president and they risk their lives to protect him. It's like, oh, they didn't want me to... They're a bunch of assholes, huh? Can't believe these...
Starting point is 01:04:17 They said it was not secure. Get a load of these assholes. Look at these bunch of capernicks I got rolling with me. So then there was a ceremony at the Arc du Triomphe where many people spoke. But Macron, Emmanuel Macron specifically fucking shaded the shit out of our boy, President Trump, when he basically said he's like that nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism. And like people were like, oh, shit. I think we know who he's talking about.
Starting point is 01:04:42 And that left him very upset, too. Right. And then when he brought his stinking orange ass back to DC, he couldn't even visit Arlington to lay a wreath on Veterans Day here for the soldiers at Arlington National Cemetery. Was there a fog though? Was there a slight mist? No, I think that was a weather thing too.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Wind. Wind. It was windy. Oh, right, right, right. And you're like, what the fuck? You can't even, you'd think the military,
Starting point is 01:05:08 he's so all about honoring the troops or whatever with his like flag kneeling nonsense and national anthem. I thought that was their jam, like the jingoistic kind of stuff. But I think that just shows you
Starting point is 01:05:17 that there's actual no values there. It's just, they just weaponize certain things to begin to like win a rhetorical argument. Of course.
Starting point is 01:05:25 And again, I have to believe that people are seeing this, right? Like people have to see like if Obama had skipped out on going to Arlington on Veterans Day or skipped a like honoring of fallen American troops, like Fox News would just show a him burning an effig, like one of those Yuletide log streams, like for two weeks straight. That's like all they would show. Lou Dobbs would have the worst hemorrhoids ever and just be screaming with red, white, and blue streaming out of his face. Yes. I don't know why I thought that, but that's just what I saw in my head. that but that's just what i saw in my head do you think like some i feel like a lot of his supporters just they will overlook things like that they have to an uncanny degree where it's just like like you know oh i'm sure he means to because a lot of the there's a lot of like with political
Starting point is 01:06:17 posturing as long as you can kind of get people to buy that you you are on their side like you can sort of like be like oh you know of course i i love the troops blah blah blah but it's like all very superficial he hasn't even gone overseas that's the crazy thing he hasn't even gone to iraq or afghanistan or anywhere that american troops are stationed overseas and like if you think about what would be the thing that he likes the best it's like a good photo op where he's coming down off of Air Force One. There's a bunch of troops there saluting him. There's a bunch of horns playing or whatever the fuck he's into.
Starting point is 01:06:53 And he still has not gone to visit the troops. Because he doesn't give a fuck. Because he's scared. He's such a fucking coward. He doesn't care. It's just because he doesn't want to wear a flak jacket. Because can you imagine him with a flak jacket on? I think he would love to wear a fucking fl he doesn't care it's just because he doesn't want to wear a flak jacket because can you imagine him with a flak jacket on i think he would love to wear a fucking flak jacket he'd be like look how cool i look makes my chest look amazing uh but he's i guarantee it's got it's
Starting point is 01:07:15 gotta be cowardice because like he will go anywhere for a dope photo opportunity his own personal vietnam yeah within women's vaginas yes he was like he's like my own personal vietnam was i mean when i was in the tit offensive battle of the bulge yeah uh but you know all of this criticism i think basically got him to a point uh where we all know what trump does when criticisms get too hot he pivots by just tweeting out a bunch of wacky shit and gets people talking about everything, not about his utter disrespect or lack of respect for the troops. And we also know he just has kind of a hostile relationship
Starting point is 01:07:53 with the military to begin with. Because remember when he argued with the NOM vets about Agent Orange and he thought the differences between Napalm and Agent Orange and he was using Apocalypse Now. He was asking about Apocalypse Now. He was like like that was a good movie he was also like it was like that he blocked like that uh veterans group on twitter i think yeah because they corrected him yeah yeah about a scene in a movie about vietnam yeah well
Starting point is 01:08:16 he doesn't believe it but anyway so he had to do his classic uh twitter pivot and so he just went in on france and mac Macron and everything and anyone. So first he said, Emmanuel Macron suggests building its own army to protect Europe against the U.S., China, and Russia. But it was Germany in World Wars I and II. How'd that work out for France? Ha! They were starting to learn German in Paris before the U.S. came along.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Pay for NATO or not. Okay, Abe Simpson with your hot take on French defeats in the world wars. Bonjour. Yeah. Cheese-eating surrender monkeys. Yeah. Thank you, Willie. As Willie once said.
Starting point is 01:08:51 But yeah, and so that was like, okay. Then he goes, and he goes, on trade, France makes excellent wine, but so does the U.S. The problem is that France makes it very hard for the U.S. to sell its wine into France and charges big tariffs, capitalized tea, whereas the U.S. to sell its wine into France and charges big tariffs, capitalized T, whereas the U.S. makes it easy for French wines and charges very small tariffs with a capital T. Again, not fair.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Must change. Okay. Really? Why are you hung up on wine? He doesn't even drink wine. I know. He has a winery, though. I know.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Trump wine? Yeah, he has a winery. That was the thing he talked to the press about after his Charlottesville speech. Wait, that he has a winery? Yeah, he was like, oh. I know about Charlottesville. Yeah, I'll tell you about Charlottesville. I have one of the biggest wineries in the state.
Starting point is 01:09:34 You're going to love it. People died. I have a winery. I've got the biggest mushroom-shaped winery you've ever seen. Yeah, so that was another odd, weird thing where it's like from all the u.s wine makers it seems like the tariffs that china is uh putting on u.s wines is a much bigger problem than the french ones that they've been dealing with forever and plus like you think french people are gonna drink carlo rossi or some shit yeah like what the fuck like they they have their their booty wine figured
Starting point is 01:10:02 out whatever they drink, their shit wine. So that was another odd thing. And then he goes, oh, by the way, this is another tweet. By the way is how it's written. By the way, when the helicopter couldn't fly into the first cemetery in France because of almost zero visibility, I suggested driving. Secret Service said no. Oh, yeah. Too far from airport and big parish shutdown.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Speech next day at American Cemetery in pouring rain. Little reported fake news. Also, a literal pilot who served for the White House chimed in and was like, I looked at all the weather stuff and the protocols we have for taking a helicopter into it. They're not even close to meeting those things. So find a new angle. Yeah. There's a lot going on. I mean, the Mueller probe might indict one of Roger Stone's homeboys.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Oh, yeah, that's right. We heard. Oh, the Mueller probe. What was that again? That's this thing looking into some kind of collusion with the Trump campaign in Russia to maybe sway the election in his way. I don't know. It's some kind of thing uh they talk about on cnn it's weird just experiencing this uh news cycle like firsthand it's just strange to like sit back and think that
Starting point is 01:11:13 we are currently at the top moment of constitutional crisis right now post the firing of jeff sessions right now there's a guy in charge of the muller investigation who can like cut off funding right and they like isn't there a problem with the procedure on that like it was supposed to be hiring of Jeff Sessions. Right. Now there's a guy in charge of the Mueller investigation who can like cut off funding. Right. And they like, isn't there a problem with the procedure on that? Like it was supposed to be Rod Rosenstein. Yeah. Yeah. And now like I know Maryland, the state of Maryland is suing.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Right. To be like, it actually has to be, there's a clever thing because they have a lawsuit involved where Jeff Sessions is named as a defendant. And now that he's no longer acting AG at DOJ, they're like, well, it can't be this guy. So just for our legal purposes, it has to be Rod Rosenstein. There's many angles for Mr. Old Whitaker to not be AG. But then there's also more stories like how Kirsten Nielsen is probably on her way out at Homeland Security, good riddance,
Starting point is 01:12:00 but who knows what kind of weird Aryan monster they're going to put into that position. And then also National Security Council Deputy John Bolton's right hand, this woman, Mira Ricardell, they say she's on the way out because she's been butting heads with Melania Trump. Butting heads? Yeah. And in addition to that, there are even grumblings that Kelly was on his way out,
Starting point is 01:12:23 but then there was a story about how Kelly was also butting heads with Melania. And that could be a reason. But maybe it looks like this NSC person could take the fall. I don't know. It's a hot White House. I just like I'm skeptical of it being Melania's fault. I feel like that's sort of a cover story to make up for the chaos and contention within the White House because it's like Melania doesn't like him. Always blame
Starting point is 01:12:47 the woman. Yeah, I know, right? She's probably having her thing. She's having her period and she's upset, so I guess we're going to get rid of Kelly. We're a hot country. This is a hot White House. Oh, thank you, Nick, for that hot Trump drop.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Hot two Ts. The conflict between Ms Miss Ricardel and Melania happened when she went to Africa and did her trip there. Oh, I remember when she was like wearing the, was it the pith helmet? Yeah, yeah. Like, I am the colonizer. Like colonizer chic. Yeah, 100%. She knows what she's doing. And if not, you know, great.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Love your ignorance. 100% She knows what she's doing And if not You know Great Love your ignorance Apparently they were Like there was an argument
Starting point is 01:13:27 Over seating on the plane Over there And there were requests To use National Security Council resources And then like That the First Lady's team I guess told the President
Starting point is 01:13:36 That they thought That this NSC Aid for John Bolton Was like A leaker And that was the reason Why there were some Bad stories coming out about Melania.
Starting point is 01:13:47 So, yeah. I like how in this story in the Wall Street Journal they say they suspect Ms. Ricardel is behind some negative stories about Ms. Trump and her staff. Ms.? Yeah. Hmm. Interesting. What do they know? Huh. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Marriage? Divorce? Were they ever married? She could never leave him. She's here on a 90-day K-12. Best she's ever had. Best she's ever had, yeah. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show.
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