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or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes every Thursday. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah, so without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist uh what is something you think is overrated oh uh overrated i would say i would you have two on here that i'm wondering if they tie together oh no they definitely don't oh okay uh hooters

i feel like is over i mean like it, I think the millennials are killing it. I think that was an article from months ago. Millennials are killing it, bro. Yeah, we're crushing it. I mean, our dads say killing it. We're fucking crushing it, dude. Yeah, no, they're now into Butt-steronts. What are they called?

Well, Breast-teronts. Breast-teronts are Hooters. It's like Twin Peaks and Hooters and the other ones. Tilted Kilt. Tilted Kilt is more popular now because millennials are more into butts. Yeah, but I think they're- And Scottish culture. Yes.

Yeah, exactly. Mostly Scottish culture. I think the other thing, though, too, because we discussed sort of the downfall of certain restaurants, namely Hooters, is because I think Tilted Kilt actually does like from scratch stuff. Like they're not just like they try and make the food as much as possible. The gastropub. Yeah. Local sourced. Oppressing patriarchy restaurants.

Right. Yeah. I was at home over the holiday and I like saw an old picture of me like at my 15th birthday at a Hooters because like that's the perfect time to go when you're 15. Yeah. You're like, it's like, oh, my God. This is what straight guys do. You can eat a disgusting burger with.

You had a burger? Oh, I mean, and wings. Oh, I don't know why I was so disgusted by that. What do you think? The wings aren't any better. Yeah, I guess. That's the whole point is like it's bad food. Yeah, it is across the board.

It's terrible food. And like the novelty of there being boobs there should have worn off post-16. Like I'm surprised anyone over 18 goes to Hooters. Yeah. Everyone is way over 40 that goes to Hooters now. It's a very specific demo they got. Yeah. God.

Have you ever seen just like a family or like a married couple? At Hooters now. It's a very specific demo they got. Yeah. God. Have you ever seen just like a family or like a married couple? At Hooters? Just the exhausted looking wife just being like, sure. Yeah. Or I used to see a lot. I used to go to watch Laker games

at the Hooters in Burbank in college. And that's when I would see couples a lot. And then you would sometimes see just someone was like, okay, well, this is your date night pick. Yeah. It's only at the very beginning of relationships, like early dates. Yeah, they're like, it's fun.

The very end of the relationship. The ironic, like, what kind of Hooters will be? It's so funny. And it's fine because we're dating, so it's not like you care about the boobs or the person writing their name so nicely. I would imagine, like, how hard would it be to pitch Hooters the restaurant now? I mean, Tilted Kilt and these other places came up in the last 10 years, so it can't be that hard.

Yeah, I guess. I guess if you use the model that if we imagined Hooters didn't exist and now it's just coming out, yeah, you'd be like, um. It's easier to say we're doing the butt version of Hooters. Right. We're doing the. Yeah, the restaurants now. Yeah, just like from scratch though.

What a concept. Yeah. Me too. More like me too more like me two great knockers on that one whoa ring the fucking alarm yeah yeah yeah the ezra klein podcast this week is about he's interviewing these people who wrote a book about like at first it sounded like one of those whack, like, you know, I'm a college professor and these kids are out of hand with their protesting and stuff, but they were talking, one of the things that sounded true that they were talking about is how unhappy social

media has made kids who have like grown up with it their whole life, like Generation Z. The mental health statistics for kids born, I think, after 95 is just really off the charts bad. Oh, wow. Because of the shit. One of the things I talked about that I hadn't really thought about is not getting invited to someone's house or not being invited to a thing

was just something that I suspected but I didn't have to sit there and look at pictures posted live. Digital evidence in front of your face. They would just tell you at school on Monday. Where were you? Facebook gives you a report about how popular you are.

And the pictures of it will make it look way more fun than it actually was. And you get basically with likes and shit, you have an ongoing social score tab that you can just kind of look at your score and be like, man, nobody follows me. I don't get likes. What the fuck is going on?

But the statistics for suicide and self-harm for young people is just way, way up. Oh, sure. Yeah, that sucks. Can't handle the amped up version of, of height of hormones. Yeah. Well,

yeah. Cause you could also like, you could lie to yourself when there wasn't social media about how good you were doing too. Like, yeah, I'm fine, man.

I'm having the best time. It was just easy to, yeah. Dismiss. Yeah. Like the negative thoughts. And you could live in like a fake world where like, you still might be able to play college football in your third year of community college right whereas like yeah now on social media

everyone can just lay everything out right there for you to compare there's no middle ground either either you're like popular and you're extra inflated like sense of self right which is like completely built on sand like you're not that cool that's the thing is i had to wait i was overconfident without social media right right when i when i wasn't getting likes on that hooters poster yeah or whatever imagine like you know the opposite where it's like i feel like kind of a loser oh and yeah like i feel like extra compounded right and they also pointed to parents being more overprotective and not letting kids make mistakes and that that like kind of shifted right when the crime rate went

down like parents like just started for whatever reason being like now you can't play outside until you're a teenager fucking hell i know i used to play in traffic like when i was i would just ride my bike all over town at age five like yeah yeah simpler times get a lot of mistakes when you said you played in the street i thought of the movie the program and i thought of you laying down in the street like waiting for the cars to ride over yeah they got that idea from me an eight-year-old yeah uh but yeah i mean let your kids crash their bike commit arson light arson right or i see also see parents who are like just cleaning their kids

constantly just like yo little kids are supposed to be fucking disgusting yeah they're vaccinating themselves yeah just yeah introducing all kinds of new bacteria though too or like i see people like who are like like let me wipe your fucking like finger webbings down everything yeah yeah like yo let this kid fucking rock in the dirt i picked my uh eight month old up over the weekend and a piece of like a metal screw fell out of his mouth he's just you know he just let me eat like yeah yeah yeah your shop supplies yeah you know uh he's eating a bunch of drywall screws i was like oh he's exploring the house. He just learned how to crawl a little bit, and he's just putting everything. I'm kind of looking forward to just getting an X-ray of him to see all the different foreign bodies that are in his stomach.

It looks like the cross-section of a spaceship or something. Miles, the headline on this next story is, oh, yeah, that Mueller thing. Oh, man, yeah, there's been so much news. I forgot. You forget that shit's going on in D.C. constantly. Yeah, I don't. I forgot about it. And then you look at the president's tweets on Monday and you're like, oh, OK.

Because it's a good, we get an idea of what his current panic attacks are about. So this one was when Mueller does his final report, will he be covering all of his conflicts of interest in a preamble? Will he be recommending action on all of the crimes? And he just goes on and on, hundreds of people close. He's just trying to, I don't know, act as if, don't believe what's about to come out, whatever this report is, because he never asked other people who would tell him that there was no collusion.

He's using the all-effective look. There may have been people who committed crimes in my campaign but think about all the people who didn't who didn't campaign and he didn't ask them if they didn't right so wow okay just go after the people that did that's fair right all 12 of my interns right right um clean record yeah but it does seem like don't know, people in the know, and I'm going to include the president on that because he is the president, and the subject of this report. Which hunt? There seems to be something bubbling up. There's a lot cooking. Alan Dershowitz, who has always been on the president's side when it comes to this report, came out and said,

on the president's side when it comes to this report, came out and said, I think the report is going to be devastating to the president, and I know that the president's team is already working on a response to the report. He said that on this week yesterday with George Stephanopoulos. So I think people are vaguely aware that Mueller has his report about to drop, and it's not going to be good for the president it's gonna make the story of addy don uh even look looks it'll make that look tame but yeah like because there are other people around the the muller investigation that are also like just saying all kinds of stuff like jerome corsi who is like the former dc bureau chief for infoars and Berther, conspiracy theorist, and John Kerry, Swift Boat guy.

Like, he's out here, like, doing on one America News, which is, like, the fucking even zanier non-news thing for right-wingers. They were like, like, we can exclusively report that Jerome Corsi is going to, like, reject his plea deal with Mueller and then sue him and then also drop a book about his, quote, Gestapo-style tactics. Wow. Okay. So that can't be. I mean, clearly that man is in a tailspin.

Like, the idea that he's going to have a book or something that's going to exonerate him, I'm not sure what's going on there. Then George Papadopoulos, he had to go to jail Monday and was, like, asking. George Papadopoulos, he had to go to jail Monday and was like asking, like in the last minute, he tried to like, you know, push back and be like, yo, I actually shouldn't be going to jail. And the judge was like, see you Monday, man. You're going and I don't care what you think the law is, but you are going. So, yeah, we'll see. And then also there's going to be a report that Mueller puts out on Manafort's cooperation. It's a status report.

So we'll know just how cooperative and easy to work with Mr. Manafort has been. Oh, that'll be interesting. Yeah. So there could be, who knows what's going to happen. Yeah. But one thing I also did read is that as more and more people leave the White House, especially for general counsel for the White House, Like as more and more people leave the White House, especially for like general counsel for the White House, they're like, oh, man, like the White House is so horribly ill prepared for like the coming subpoenas and all these other things. Democrats are about to to go ham on terms of investigating and things like that. So this can't be add that to the pile of the Mueller report coming out soon, maybe dropping soon. Yeah.

You almost make it sound like it's gonna be like on soundcloud or something yeah exactly link in bio link in bio it does seem like muller is using sort of the i don't know like the recording artist timing thing where you go silent for a while and then people are like oh shit no i can't wait to find out like what he's about the muller report came pre-loaded on my new ip? Not this coming. Yeah, yeah. By the way, just speaking about people, like stories coming out from behind the scenes of the White House, the story wherein somebody asks Trump how much he thinks the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman earns, and he says $5 million was one of my favorite things from over the weekend.

$5 million? He just assumes everyone's like a millionaire around him. And that was probably him thinking of like a low number. Wait, wait, how did that question... Like, poor guy. Just someone on the spot like, hey, how much do the Joint Chiefs make? I don't know, five million.

All right, moving on. Chief of Staff John Kelly has told others about watching TV with Trump and asking the president how much the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff earns. Trump guessed five5 million. According to people who were told the story by Kelly, startling the chief of staff, Kelly responded that he made less than $200,000. The president suggested he get a large raise and noted the number of stars on his uniform.

Oh, a star for a million dollars. Yeah, for every star. Look at all those stars. This guy deserves millions. At least four. Yeah. Why isn't there five? We're not in war?

Okay. But yeah, he's just not a... This is the... Wait, so someone quizzed him, basically? Like, you're like, hey, Mr. President, how much do you think he makes? Well, Kelly comes off as like an annoying asshole in the story, too, because have you ever been like talking to somebody and they ask you a question that you think they're like genuinely curious about, but they know the answer.

Oh, just to try and fuck with you. So you were just like, quizzing me? Right, right, right. Fuck you, man. But instead, Trump just started talking about all the shiny things on the guy's uniform because that's how his mind works. He's like, what's that one? The American flag?

Oh, yeah. That's pretty cool. Look at all the stars in that one. Yeah. So he should get 54. They're probably like 30, 35. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Look at all the stars in that one. Yeah. You know, there's like... So you should get 54. 55 million. They're probably like 30, 35. Let's talk about Beto.

Oh. Let's talk about... That guy? Beto O'Rourke? O'Rourke. He's up to something, huh? Yeah. He has something going in Texas, it looked like.

And yeah, he says... I know that initially he was a little cryptic about maybe he'd run for 2020 maybe he won't and it seems like he's opening up more and more to the possibility of a presidential run now I think I think he could be a good candidate

I'd love to see what the whole field looks like but he's getting a lot of buzz from like many other people I know Dan Pfeiffer, Crooked Media wrote like a really glowing sort of piece about what is good about Beto and why he would be a great candidate. And do with Texas politics. But I think there was some kind of energy he had that was bringing everybody in. I mean, not just because his policies were pretty sane and things like that, but there was the enthusiasm that was very, there's something there. There's definitely something there to that. I was one of those people in a way, because I had some weeks off and I was going to travel to do comedy and stuff. So I went to a city where I could do comedy, but also like canvas for not only a house candidate, but also a Senate candidate.

Right. Okay. So I was like going around a little bit before the election, like in Orange County and stuff where there was some seats that could be flipped blue. But then I also was like, oh, there's one in Houston and there's a Senate candidate there. So it's like, we'd be a double maximize the potential of each door in a way. And when I was in Houston, that was the week before the election, and there was Beto signs everywhere, like in Texas, which is traditionally pretty red. And then there was whole bars that had Beto signs.

The whole scene seemed to be really in love with it. Yeah. Not to mention his lack of like taking corporate money and just raising Bafo dollars, uh, through small dollar donations. Like, yeah, I,

I can see what, where they can, like, I, I, I get the momentum that if you were like running a campaign, you're like, Ooh,

this thing could run itself. I think the, the fact that like the democratic party has such an open field, like as opposed to like 2016, where there was like one and a half really like credits at the beginning, like cause Bernie was going to run, but he wasn't really like a front runner per se, which Hillary was like,

there seems to be no real front runner for this. There's like 10 kind of like has some components like momentum, but like the ones that have the most are like uh maybe bernie and then beto like the with the biggest name recognition and enthusiasm behind them and like that's the like because the open field of 2016 on the republican side was kind of similar to where there was like a bunch of whatever candidates and there was trump who had universal name recognition and enthusiasm for whatever like he wasn't if you ask most people, they'd be like, no, not really. But he had the most.

Even with his duality, or plurality, I should say, rather than a majority, he ran away with the nomination. So it's going to probably be someone like that who just has the most enthusiasm in 2020. Or just has some stellar debates

or whatever. We'll see. Right. So why do you think he failed to get him elected, John? I mean, what did you do wrong? What happened? I mean, I just got to assume that people didn't want to see my mustache. Right. And from California, they wanted their homegrown mustaches.

That ain't one of those good mustaches. One of those carpet-bagging mustaches. It's an ironic mustache. Yeah. Yeah, I get the point that you need somebody who's not just going to be the look at Trump, he's bad type of thing. Yeah, you need people who are going to be like,

I stand for him. Right, because Trump has a lot of enthusiasm behind him on the right. That is assuming that he runs. Right. Which Roger Stone, his longtime homie. Famously honest Roger Stone. Right. Thinks that Trump will not run.

He claims he has no inside information, but he just doesn't understand why he would, since Trump has literally no sense of duty or, you know, doesn't really like the country in any way, is not a fan. Basically, he said he believes that Trump likes the, quote, adulation part of being president, which I think we're all aware of. He doesn't like the fact that half the people in the country hate his guts. I'm not totally sure about that. He seems to get, you know, they say extroverts get re-energized from being around people and introverts get re-energized by being alone. I feel like Trump gets energy from just conflict and people disliking him. But then he points out he's hypersensitive to criticism. I could easily see him saying, well, I made America great. I'm heading to the golf course.

Good luck, Mike. Which would be... I mean, I buy that because it didn't seem like he really wanted to be president in the election either. I think he was fine just becoming second fiddle, starting a media empire, and then using that. Yeah. And like, it's the same reason.

Like I ran for president of my high school mostly so I could talk in front of people through a microphone. It was for the stage time. For all the wrong reasons. Trump loves being in it's on a stage. He loves performing at all those rallies. He's just doing his set. Like,

and he just loves the rallies. Just do a arena fucking tour. Yeah. You know, those crowds aren't going anywhere. And let him just exist in that. Just do your tour with Larry the Cable guy. Yeah, he can do that without being president very easily. I love this.

He'll have a certain cult following no matter what. Yeah. Still, I think this is underestimating the intensity of his personality disorder. His competitive drive. The size of the sucking vortex of a black hole at the center of his personality disorder. Oh, his competitive drive. The size of the sucking vortex of a black hole at the center of his soul. He can't take the idea that people would see him

as failing in any way. And so even if he can tell himself, I made America great again, the negative media, I could definitely see him being like, yeah, you know, I'm not going to run. And then the second he starts getting negative press, be like, ah,

I tricked you. Right. I am going to run. It turns out. Oh, you know, Roger Stone. He's like,

you say, Jono. Well, who knows what this man knows? Yeah. It's just him speculating, but he has been friends with Trump for 40 years. and you got that sick Nixon tattoo.

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and this liberal media just not not giving him his fair shake because he came out, this was a big drudge headline, which I'll be interested to see how the conservatives deal with this. But he came out and said, I blow Ronald Reagan away. Basically, he's complaining that his long list of achievements are far greater than Ronald Reagan, but you would never know it because of the fake news media. far greater than Ronald Reagan, but you would never know it because of the fake news media. And he even argues that conservative pundits and conservative Republicans and columnists, all these people, they just won't give him as fair credit because his name is Donald Trump. And if you said his name was John Smith, he would be known as far greater than Ronald Reagan.

John Barron. Wait, that's a quote? Yeah, that's a quote. If you said that conservative president John Smith did that, they would say he's the greatest president, far greater than Ronald Reagan. Wow. It's just an impressive, I don't know, like logical contortionism

where he's able to kind of dissociate himself with every negative thing that he's ever done. He's like, that's just... That makes you think my name is bad. But it's not like him. You guys are just looking at all the bad shit I'm doing. That is crazy. Ronald Reagan worked with the CIA to commit his crimes. Right. Come on, man. He's not against

them. Come on. That is the big difference, I think. It's true. We'll see how is the big difference, I think. Yeah. That is true. Yeah. I mean, we'll see how many roads they have named after him because, you know, like so many fucking things are named after Reagan from all the money people were making in the 80s and during his administration. I don't know about this anymore.

The airport in D.C. is named after him. Yeah. What's going to be named after Trump? Like who is going to go that far aside from like your kooky, like big dollar donors or whatever, who's like, I'm going to, I'll name this building after him. But like,

I don't know. I think even Trump's existing buildings won't be named after him. Right. Like there, I, that's my, my fantasy right now is that like he sees the T being ripped off Trump tower and that's when he dies.

And he's pushing a shopping cart. Yeah. Yeah. This is my building. All right. I mean, there's art that's already happening around. And he's pushing a shopping cart. Yeah. You know, this is my building. All right. I mean, that's already happening around the world, like certain areas that have it. Yeah, having to be like, this isn't working. Those aren't his buildings. They only licensed the name as a branding thing.

So like once his brand is so toxic, once he's exposed as a worldwide criminal, then yeah, probably less of a- Or he has to deal with all the vandalism because people are just like fuck this thing i'm like yeah messing the messing the signage up the only trump tower will probably be in moscow the one that doesn't exist right well one day i know i mean like that's that's the big deal we keep hearing about it's gonna happen i'm i'm ready well let's talk about uh the gift that keeps on giving. Not really. Contributing to our existential panic. Yesterday we were talking about how I thought it made sense that Paul Manafort was probably just telling everything that was going on during his plea deal to Mueller, basically, because this guy makes no sense and he's a career criminal.

He makes no sense, and he's a career criminal. And then the New York Times did, in fact, report that even after taking a plea deal, his lawyer was regularly reporting back to the White House on everything Mueller was asking about and basically just arming them with a game plan for the president's defense. I'm so disappointed. I thought we could actually trust this guy. You have always said that. What else has got to happen? Yeah.

He was taken off a house arrest. Right. After that, I thought, nope, this is the end of it. You know, because, you know, witness tampering. I thought this was going to be it. We can really, we can believe in him now. He's gotten that out of his system. But this is so shocking and disappointing.

I know. What are you going to do? You know? I think you know. You're heroes. This is America. But yeah, I think it was really interesting also to see how Rudy Giuliani, he's

also quoted in this New York Times article where he's almost gloating about it where he was almost fist pumping like, yeah, we played Robert Mueller's dumb ass. He was dealing with him. The right seems to be spiking the football on this. The Drudge Report's headline is

Mueller cornered? It just links through to an article being like yeah, Manafort was reporting back to the White House about everything. It's just like, so are you guys admit that there's something to hide here and you're just trying to fuck with the investigation?

They seem to have crossed a line where they're openly like haha fuck you we made it so you can't find out the thing we didn't do wrong i mean that's really the only hands they have left to play are just like these weird like sort of hail marys yeah and like intellectually bank morally bankrupt ideas about like how this investigation is working and where the power is residing at the moment. I have no clue. In that article, there was some line about Giuliani speaking about it.

Like, yeah, of course he was telling the president. Like, we wanted to know what was going on. Yeah, it helped us form a legal defense. I'm paraphrasing, but you're like, what? I can't believe that's legal? Well, yeah, that's the amazing thing, too, because when all these like former U.S. attorneys and people from DOJ were being interviewed on all the shows, they're all been like, I mean, so what? Like, you know, this is illegal. They're like, no, it's just unethical.

Right. Because we lived in a country where people used to give a fuck. lived in a country where people used to give a fuck. But I think that's the thing is like that lawyer is going to look like a total asshole after this, because typically the one thing they were saying is, you know, even though Manafort and Trump had this joint defense agreement, that once you flip, meaning you have switched teams, there is no longer a reason to have a joint defense agreement because at that point you are on the opposition side, but was still carrying on with it and didn't dissolve the agreement or whatever. But I mean, when you couple that with like all the shit that Jerome Corsi is also like

up against too, you're like, yo, these people know like they're in too fucking deep and they're just angling for their pardons because Corsi fucking just dumped his plea deal like on Twitter was like, hey, check out what Robert Mueller is trying to do. And that's basically like Robert Mueller outlining all of his crimes, namely that he was acting as a fucking conduit between Roger Stone and WikiLeaks. And so like you're starting to see what Mueller knows and what they're up against and just sort of like, all right, fuck it.

We'll just lie about everything. We'll pardon it. Let's just see if this thing will blow over. Yeah, they're just gunning for pardons. Yeah, but the emails that they have between, like, Roger Stone and, like, Jerome Corsi are, like, Stone's like, I just have to read in this thing because it's so vague. In this document, the draft agreement of the plea deal, it says, Roger Stone emails Jerome Corsi, and this is a quote that Roger Stone wrote, quote, get to, and it's redacted and a parenthetical says, the founder of Organization One at Ecuadorian Embassy in London and get the pending Organization One emails.

They deal with foundation. So you're like, okay, so get to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to talk about the Clinton Foundation's emails. And then Jerome Corsi just sent like some like local journalist guy who he works with who's living in the UK to go meet with Assange. And then the timeline of looking at like what these emails show and what Roger Stone was saying, you're like, oh, you guys, it's so it's like now just really in your face now. So I have a question. Things move so fast and it's so confusing.

But so this Manafort, this story that the Guardian printed yesterday about Manafort meeting with Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy. And then at the end of the day, it was like, well, we might not be able to verify that or saying like people have been fact checking and trying to reach out. But the Guardian stands behind its sourcing. Right. And so that's not something that we can count as being true. Or do you guys have any more information on that?

It was just so specific because they described what outfit he was wearing. believing a journalistic institution that claims that they have it backed up and have like exactly what his outfit was when he was doing it versus believing paul manafort i'm going with the journalistic institution just old habits are die hard you know like i really want to believe manafort yeah and i don't blame you also has, as we're recording this, a story is breaking that he said in an Oval Office interview that a pardon for Paul Manafort is on the table. Oh, God. Of course. Of course it is. But that seemed too, I don't know, like blatant a while back.

It's all they got. It really does seem like, I mean, both in the reaction of kind of spiking the football on Giuliani, like fist pumping and the drudge report, just skipping over the idea of a crime being committed and being like, ah, they've outmaneuvered Mueller. It just seems like a line has been crossed where now it doesn't matter if they committed a crime originally. Now it's just about like a game of chess, whether Mueller, who just inherently is bad because he's not on their side, whether he can find out what they did.

And so if you're in that space, then, yeah, why wouldn't you pardon Manafort? Because that's going to help you the most. And who are you going to get shit from? Not your base, which is all they care about. The base doesn't care. I think it's very, there's no way you can deny that shit happened. Right. It's just obvious.

And they know it. Yeah. They know it. They don't care. Yeah. The wheels are coming off. So that's why it's just like, well, fuck like any sort of moral argument about this. Like, well, let's just try and obscure the facts as much as possible.

Yeah. We got Matthew Whitaker in there, too. Yeah. And who knows what he's willing to do or not do yet. And if all this stuff that Paul Manafort and Jerome Corsi are pulling, because maybe they have some other greater plan with Matt Whitaker at DOJ that they'll figure out some other way to sidestep all this. But, yeah, I mean, either way.

Alright guys, let's check in with Manga. It's been a while. And not that not because nothing's been happening. So we wanted to check in with one Leslie Moonves because it's

really starting to get to like Weinstein levels with this dude he's just basically sexually assaulting women nonstop and just being like I'll cast you on a CBS show if like as a that seems to be his consolation

because we're just now finding out from women who are like yeah and then I quit because that was the worst thing that's ever happened to me so I quit acting but wasn't before like it was he was trying to act like it was like a couple things and he didn't really remember shit and it was consensual and that's what he's saying about this young woman who at the time was i think in her early 20s in 1992 she was up and coming and got a meeting with him. She didn't know he was like this big, powerful guy. And he, I mean, the quote is, he said, be my girlfriend and I'll put you on any

show. Then he grabbed her by the neck, pushed her to her knees and forced his penis into her mouth. And then the other awesome quote from him is because he's worried about his 120 million dollar payout from cbs like they fired him but he has it in his contract that he gets 120 million dollars and he said i think i'll be okay but if bobby talks i'm done and bobby is the woman who uh he's talking about there so wait. Wait, who did he say that to? To Bobby's manager, who he was trying to work with. Oh, to keep it on the low? Right.

It exposes this whole sort of weird system where managers and agents work with the- The predators, yeah. Yeah, work with the predators. Because they all get a check too. Right. And so Moonves knew. They do?

Yeah, if you're an agent or whatever and they're on a show. Oh, where you get a commission. Yeah, so for you it behooves the manager. I was like, they get a mouth shot check? Right. So this manager was like, he knew that something went on. And he knew that Moonves knew that something went on and he knew that Moonves knew that so even though this actress was not

trying to get any roles and wasn't getting anything, Moonves was basically paying this guy off by giving his other clients work and he like specifically at one point in the article says come on man we gotta make you some money like wow so he's just

but is his exit package of 120 million is that still up in the air like it's still up because cbs has to well at the time they're like we're gonna do our own investigation quote unquote or whatever yeah uh yo don't fucking pay this man a fucking cent right like who is going to possibly blame you for not paying him anything. And also, do they name this manager or whatever who's been out here? He named himself. He apparently, like, he's old and seems like he's sort of a not all there type guy. Oh. Like, an elderly dude.

He mainly represents, like, daytime TV actors and actresses. Right. But the story's weird because it, like, has all these details about this dude went to the spam museum when he was on vacation and bought a t-shirt for Les Moonves and his kid and brought it back to them like, hey, here, I got you something. Just like he was trying to get in Les Moonves' orbit for so long. What a creepy fucking gift. Yeah, exactly.

Vess's orbit for so long. What a creepy fucking gift. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, it's just an all around creepy, problematic relationship that once again just proves why Hollywood is the grossest town in the world. And just talking about what you were saying with the CBS internal investigation. So Tom Brokaw apparently has some shit in his closet there is a NBC journalist who claims that he sexually harassed her and she is coming out and basically asking Comcast the parent company of NBC to conduct an investigation with their own outside counsel rather than like leaving it up to NBC to investigate itself because— Why would they do that? Right. Jesus. It's, like, the most—she just, in her statements, is making tons of sense.

Right. Everyone should be forced to have external investigation because if it's your company, how are you incentivized to find, like, terrific acts of terror? Right. You know? Well, especially when you have stuff like in CBS's case, they're like, well, look, if we can find a way, like, you know, they're looking at a $120 million package.

How do they balance that? Do they pay him? Do they not? You'd think in the CBS case, it would behoove them to be like, well, we're not going to pay you because we don't even want to pay that money out. But even then, just to have,

it's like anything we've seen over the last all the time right that yeah these companies that are doing the or have employees that are doing bullshit they just do their own investigation sort of obscure things to you know and they're like wow i didn't see anything yeah right oh i guess this guy will keep working yeah so all right well have a good weekend i don't get also like don't get also, like, do they have to pay? Like, why would you have to pay a fucking horrible predator $120 million? Why do you have to pay a criminal? Because he has very good lawyers, I'm sure. Yeah, and they write these contracts that are just sort of like, even in the event of criminal behavior, it's like, there's this agreement.

even in the event of criminal behavior, it's like, there's this agreement. Before any of this shit comes out, he's like got negotiations and he's probably negotiating about stuff. Like if I get fired for cause and I won't trust me, but let's just say a thing or two comes out, then let's just have it in there that I still get that one 20 large. Yeah.

And he's like, and also I did kill two people, but- With my dick. I apologize. That's gotta be worth something. Right. He also did this, a very similar thing to a medical student at UCLA

who was doing a physical exam on him. He sexually assaulted her while she was supposed to be just getting a regular physical exam. And she eventually came out. She was one of the first whistleblowers. Oh, right. And UCLA was trying to be like... Yeah, UCLA basically

just... They were like, he's very powerful in this town. So... Shout out to my alma mater. Try harder, UCLA. Me too. Yeah? My wife's alma mater too. The literal medical school. Oh, really? So, come on, guys. Do better. Try harder, UCLA. Me too. Yeah? My wife's alma mater too. The literal medical school. Oh, really? So come on, guys. Do better.

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And we're back. Melania is back with her triumphant return to holiday decorating. Yo, it is... A hellscape. It is literally a hellscape. Have you seen the photos? I saw like one. Okay, here, I'll just go through it.

So yes, this year's theme was- There are Christmas trees made of blood. The theme was American treasures. And the statement is, the White House says, decorations include a tree trimmed by gold star families. Okay, that makes sense. An array of topiary trees

and mantle pieces featuring the skylines of New York City, St. Louis, Chicago, and San Francisco. And here's some like concept designs. Then she's literally walking around blood piles of just like congealed entrails of the downtrodden people. Then a really nice like wreath made out of Be Best pencils, which I very, you know, I guess, shout out to yourself. It's Christmas.

It's very crafty. Yeah. Like the video that I think was released from her Twitter account that we took all these clips from, it's just like her just like being in awe of her own, you know, design prowess. I really did it. What do you guys think of this tree topper? Tree topper is very Nazi-tastic.

Yeah. It is a golden eagle with its wing spread, which, yeah, looks like it belongs at the top of a flagpole in a classroom. Yeah, at the Reichstag. But, yeah, I mean, you know, sure, sure, Melania. That's cool for you. That's how you want to design your house. That's your house. Yeah.

I don't look forward to being invited ever. So the tree's made entirely out of cranberries, like branches. Oh, it is? I believe so, based on the progression where they show us the cranberry branches. Is that a cranberry? I don't know what that is. Aren't they grown in a bog? Yeah, that's true.

It looks like giant elves were buried there. Yeah. Just like their hats sticking out. Or wasn't it in War of the Worlds like where the like the machines just like pick people up and then just shout out like weird goo. Well, it wasn't goo. It was it turned them into ash. Oh, okay.

And it was a very clear reference to 9-11 actually. Oh, was it? I think so. Because like he's like running around and there's like ash all over him from disintegrated people. Oh, right, right, right. You remember? What movie am I thinking of where they were leaving behind red webbing on the, whatever. That's not important because this is-

But this really looks like- Ronnie is like, don't spoil my Hanukkah decorations. It looks like a more dramatic, if you did a freeze frame on the moment after the blood elevators open in The Shining. And then because it looks like it's just red cascading down. Yeah. It really looks. And then there is on one of the trees, there is not the blood trees, the regular Christmas trees. There's just a the official white

house an ornament the the official white house tree there's an ornament that just says puerto rico did you see that picture on twitter that when the tree was brought in trump slapped like the horse's ass that was like bringing the tree in there was like a horse some horse-drawn carriage from one to the white house hey it was there's just a photo of him just like as if he were at some stockyard assessing the product. That's just like muscle memory for him. Right. He can't not slap something on the ass. Right.

He's like, oh, I can't resist. Yeah. But this is all just a waking nightmare. Do you all have like Christmas ornaments you put up every year? Do you still do this? No. I do. Yeah. Okay. I don't. What about you? Yeah. Do you have a pickle that you put up every year? Do you still do this? No. I'm a Jew. Yeah.

Okay. I don't. What about you? Yeah. Do you have a pickle that you put on your tree? Yeah. What is with that? We just got that a few years ago, and I forget what tradition it's from.

I have a pickle. Her Majesty has a pickle. That's why we have one. Anna just said she has a pickle on her tree. Yeah. Somebody gave it to us. I mean, we just started doing Christmas trees because we're, but even growing up, we did not have a pickle. But now my new tree has a pickle.

Wow. I think that just like broke wide, like that tradition. A pickle, yeah. Yeah, explain it to us. Because we're too lazy to Google. Like a real pickle? No, like a pickle ornament. Oh.

Yeah. A moldy, disgusting, rotten pickle. Use the same one. It's hard as a Oh. Yeah. Moldy, disgusting, rotten pickles. Use the same one. It's hard as a rock. Yeah. Speaking of holiday culture, people are re-watching the Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer film, the old claymation classic. And they're finally coming around to a fact that I learned back in 2010 when one of the crack writers revisited it, that this movie is wildly fucked up.

It's crazy. It's amazing how mean Santa is to everybody. Oh, I was going to say, how dare Rudolph think he's better than everybody? I know. No, it's actually not that. Rudolph, it's just nonstop bullying that goes completely unacknowledged. Like, not, you you know there's the bullying from the reindeers who are like no rudolph fuck you your nose is red but santa

bullies everybody around him like the elves at one point santa's like stressed out because christmas is coming up and for some reason they've made the decision that santa doesn't deal well with stress in this uh show and so the elves try and sing him a Christmas song to get him in the mood. And much like Katie, he's no fan of Christmas music. And they're like, hey, did you like it, Mr. Santa? And he goes, it needs work. Now I've got to go. And storms out.

And then later he's eating dinner with his wife. And she's like, you're not eating your food and he's like i can't eat because of how bad that stupid elf song was like he sounds like a monster he is a fucking human monster and it's also like a good illustration of how like a toxic person like that can spread to everyone else because when rudolph is born s Santa looks at him and is like, oh my God, I hope that nose goes away. And then his dad is there and bullies him for the rest of Rudolph's life and is like, hide your nose, Rudolph. Rudolph's dad. Rudolph's dad makes him wear a black thing over his nose.

And Rudolph's dad isn't a magical reindeer that can fly? Or is he one of the others? I don't know. Well, maybe Rudolph's dad wasn't working with all those unsafe chemicals and building toys. Maybe his child wouldn't have a birth defect, Santa.

Maybe we should look at the working conditions in your workshop. Also, Santa in his claymation form looks like a character from Duck Dynasty. Yes, he does.

Just like with his beard and he has angry-ass eyebrows. He doesn't look like someone I'd want to work for. Side note, does Santa pay his elves? Hey, hey, hey. Come on.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Santa's a white slave owner. What is this? What are you, the AFL-CIO over here? Yes, actually, I am. Yeah, his facial hair is definitely very like Habsburg Empire. Right, yeah. He looks like an Austro-Hungarian Kaiser friend.

But at one point, Santa tells Rudolph's father, you should be ashamed of yourself for having a son who has a red nose. And when Rudolph eventually redeems himself by just being useful to Santa for one night, nobody starts valuing him. They're just like, God, can you tone it down, Rudolph, with that nose? Like that actually, that actually that's a line so even when he proves himself people are still like actually i think we have the clip of the night when santa realizes that he can use rudolph and he still treats him like shit i've

got some bad news folks christmas is going to be canceled there There's nothing I can do. This weather. Rudolph, Rudolph, please. Could you tone it down a bit? I mean, that nose of yours. I mean, that was pretty obnoxious. Yeah. Was his nose whistling?

Yeah, his nose. He's a baby deer, and he hasn't learned how to control his powers. Right. Yeah. But then nobody is like, ah, you're all right in my book, Rudolph. They're just like, still fuck you, man, but thanks for lighting the way. I take a little bit of issue with the idea that Santa's the only reason Christmas exists. This message that's being shoved down our throats.

Christmas is canceled. That it's just only about presents. It is about presidents. I mean, guys, we're losing sight. And we all know that Jesus is the reason for the season. Right. Remember that. Christmas is canceled.

I refuse. I demand you all refuse to go to church and celebrate the birth of Jesus. Do not talk to your family. Do not enjoy a hearty breakfast. Take out your trees. Then there's the island of misfit toys where defective sentient toys go to die of exposure. Apparently they just all like live on this frigid island.

There's like a train with square wheels, a doll with depression. It seems like that's like what she just like doesn't have anything wrong with her, like human eyes for once depressed. Uh, and then a toy bird that can't fly, but can swim.

And they're never a mention. So in the original version, like Rudolph goes there and it's like this horrifying, like, Oh no, these people, now we see what real freaks look like. And then he goes back and saves the day.

Uh, and they never mentioned again, but, uh, because children presumably were existentially horrified by the prospect that there's just abandoned toys out there that are going to die of old age uh they decided to like tack on a thing where santa and the elves return and give the toys homes. But at one point at the end, they throw the flightless bird off the sleigh as it's flying through the sky. And that's how they just don't mention again. They just kill the bird.

Yeah, they just kill it. You're like, you're tiny and small, but no room. Oh, it can't fly? Well, good luck falling from this height. I think it's supposed to be like a bit where it's like he thinks it's a bird, so he probably thinks it can fly. It's not like they did it unacknowledged, but it's fucked up. It's funny because-

This is the only way you'll learn how to fly. Yeah, by death. But anyways, there's all these tweets that I've been noticing, and I think Yahoo wrote an article about just all the people who are like, wow, Santa's a fucking dick, man. Right, or like nihilist yeah yeah exactly i mean santa is very weird that we invite this old man into our homes every year i know i was trying to explain santa to my son and like keep it upbeat but i can tell like there's the like a flicker of terror in his eyes as i was just like then he comes to our house but But you'll be asleep. Alright, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly

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