The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 57 (Best of 1/7/19-1/11/19)

Episode Date: January 13, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:01:48 Join us for the new podcast, Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of lucha libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, emperor of lucha libre and a WWE superstar. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, Emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE Superstar. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. What is something you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:02:39 And I'm going to stick with the Golden Globes. And I'm sorry to say, I think Bohemian Rhapsody is overrated. And I didn't think this was going to be an issue because it didn't really get the reviews, the good positive reviews and so I wasn't worried. It made a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I'm happy when anything makes money. You know, that's great. Make that money. But the problem was it shouldn't have won the best drama.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Put it in the musical category first of all. Right. I was confused. I had to like check. I was like, oh, they mistakenly put it in the best drama category.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Those categories are such trash. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. Like, make up your mind. Seriously. Seriously. Especially the comedy music, just we don't throw anything over here category. There's like one like actual musical produced a year now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:19 And then you have A Star is Born, which is a drama, sure, but it's also a musical drama. Yeah, it's a musical. And then Bohemian Rhapsody, which is basically just a concert film, like a CGA concert film. Then that's a musical too. But the issue for me is that as a gay HIV positive man working in this society, to have the icon of queer HIV positive representation, whether he was out at the time or not. He is very much associated with it. Totally.
Starting point is 00:03:52 It's like making a movie about Keith Haring without including any of the gay sex or the HIV. They allude to all of it a lot. They treat Freddie's homosexuality as a curse that brings him down. Right. They treat it as like the thing that ruined Queen, you know? Right. And I just am like, I just couldn't believe that's the direction they went with the movie.
Starting point is 00:04:15 No, I can believe that that's the direction they went with the movie, but I can't believe it's being honored, you know? Like, this makes us feel better when literally, like, all the homosexuality that is portrayed in the movie is, like, passing glances at, like, dirty cock-sucking bars, you know? You know, the good old dirty cock-sucking bars. It's just all, like, dark temptation, right? And then he ends up...
Starting point is 00:04:39 They treat it like it's a heroin addiction or something. Absolutely. And it's not. It's what made his music what it was. It's who made him who he was. It's a part of who he is. And yeah, I know exactly what you mean by that. And they're like, his poor suffering wife.
Starting point is 00:04:53 And it's like, sure, but also that's not the reality of their relationship. They also fucked with the timeline hard. So it's not even a true story. It's based on inspired by the life of Queen. And then fucking the rest of Queen, well, only two of them. I guess John Deacon didn't okay any of it and didn't sign off on all of it. But the other two, Brian May and Drummer, it seems like they wanted to save the legacy
Starting point is 00:05:26 and not make Freddy out to be the fucking flamboyant, proud motherfucker that he was. He was a peacock. He was a peacock. Right. And you saw the peacock part, but you didn't see the things that made him a peacock. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Right. Why he loved peacocks so much, you know? So overrated Bohemian Rhapsody. I mean, Golden Globes, you know, whatever. Ellen, at the end of last week, had Kevin Hart on her show. On her shoulder. Yeah, on her shoulder. He's a tiny little man.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yes. He's a great talent. Please cut that out. He's very powerful. And she basically was trying to, you know, make it so that he would come back as the Oscar host. She was trying to, you know, walk through the controversy with him. And, you know, she was making some valid points that like he had apologized 10 years ago and, you know, they were walking through it and he got into like a little bit of a weird thing she was basically like look we want you to come back and host the oscars like
Starting point is 00:06:29 everybody wants you to do it like please do it and he was like nah because these people are like these trolls if i come back the trolls win uh and then she just was like well okay i hear you i'm not not going to accept that. You are hosting the Oscars. Let's go to break. It was just like the bigot. She just like big-dicked him so much. It was really, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Ellen has an impressive aura about her. She just basically is like, I am making this so. Willful. Yeah, willful is a good way of putting it. I think we have a clip from the show. You have grown. You have apologized. You're apologizing again right now.
Starting point is 00:07:11 You've done it. Don't let those people win. Host the Oscars. All right. We have to take a break. We'll be back. So that was after he objected to her. She had already said that.
Starting point is 00:07:26 He objected. He was like, well, you know, these people, though, I'm afraid of being attacked. They're going to attack me, which they are. If he hosts the Oscars, there's going to be like another. He can't come out and say, I have more to lose by doing this than not doing it. Right. Exactly. than not doing it. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:42 The smarter move for me as a business person and as a human being is not walking into this trap. Yeah, and she was like, uh-huh, okay. Yeah, I hear you. We still want you to host the Oscars. Everybody cheer. We're going to break. You're in my house.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Did he actually apologize, though? It's basically he said he apologized back when it happened and took the joke out of his uh rotation i don't know i mean i blast i remember when when he went on on like instagram or snapchat or whatever it didn't seem like he was he wasn't really trying to apologize right and i get though i i like the idea though though, that, you know, you have to, there has to be a way for people to redeem themselves, for sure, because you can do shit in the past and you show growth or whatever. But I haven't seen the interview, but from what I read,
Starting point is 00:08:37 it didn't seem like Ellen really pushed him to, like, demonstrate any kind of growth in this interview, more so like, hey, I think it's fine. Right. Well, I mean, she is, as somebody who is a huge person for the gay community and what came out before a lot of people wanted her to, I'm sure. She talks about that in her latest special, that a lot of people
Starting point is 00:09:07 who made money off her were like, no, no, no, no, no. Why don't you go back to just pretending for a little while? That she was kind of saying, all right, I'm going to stand out here and say that we as a community can forgive you. And I think when he said he wasn't going to do the Oscars anymore, he also apologized at that time again. So I don't, I don't know. Like I, I do think his tone was weird,
Starting point is 00:09:35 like during the interview, because it was, he started making it more about like people were trying to attack him and it was all about an attack on him and not the issues. So I get, I get get both i get your point uh i get what she's trying to say as well but it's just funny that she it's incredibly layered though because it's they i know comedians that when they were younger had bits making fun of homeless people and then as they got older and had more experience in life realized like oh we're all like a meat like one bad decision
Starting point is 00:10:06 away from being that person yeah right because but when they started doing stand-up at 20 you don't understand that you're like what are they why would you do that don't be you know right so being hailed for that that growth um and then apologizing but they also also, it's a weird, what it is is it's two business people having a conference. Right. And it's a weird, it's not about art and it's not about any of these issues. It's about money at this weird point when you put him on the spot to do these things. Right. I think it's a weird power dynamic more than anything else.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yeah, that's what I was most what I found most notable about the conversation, was it wasn't clear what they had agreed to ahead of time, but it did seem like she was just like, yeah, well, here's where we're leaving it. You should do the Oscars, and it's on you. All right. Yeah. Super producer Nick Stumpf just asked what's in it for her,
Starting point is 00:11:03 and I don't know. I mean, we're all talking about other than other than that people are and it happened on her show and i think other some people were saying that they wanted her to host in because he wasn't hosting so maybe she wants to take her name out of that i don't know or she's trying to speak for the entire LGBTQ community is by being Ellen. But I know people who are in like the black queer community who are like, why don't you apologize to black queer people too? Because a lot of his comedy is like, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:36 is entrenched in sort of culturally this idea of being home. I don't know. I, I have to see the whole thing, but it seemed like everyone's in a tough spot. Yeah. Ellen came out when it wasn't cool and did a lot of grandiose things for a lot of...
Starting point is 00:11:53 and made a lot of strides for people that didn't want her to, but she bettered everyone else's lives for it. Yeah. So there's probably an ego there that she has that's earned or unearned. Sure. She was like, like listen this is getting out of hand right and i'm sure like some of the attacks at kevin hart or whatever
Starting point is 00:12:10 or get weird and personal right where it's just like listen that was 10 or 15 years ago i was a idiot kid right talking about this bravado look at me i'm five foot whatever i have to do and this is an act right and then people taking what he said and taking it on their own thing and making it about their agenda and then he's a lightning rod which comes with the territory of being that big and famous right so that's another thing we're talking about is two large entities having a sit-down conversation deciding what's good for culture, which is a weird thing. It's two giant egos, which is a weird thing to do when they're speaking for so many millions of people.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I just think it's a strange – it's just strange. And also the Oscars are strange where it's clear that acting is an art form and it's a craft craft and these people care about it deeply but they're also egomaniacs so they want everyone in the country to care about these art films that they don't give a fuck about right and then they're like well we should put popular films in there so we reward them like no they already have a reward they made billions of dollars right yeah the oscars still don't have a host yeah i'm available i'll do it for one year there you go have you and jamie loft is doing that would be fucking great 30 minutes long and they pulled the plug it's just a power move i don't know because
Starting point is 00:13:39 i don't know what do you mean what do you mean don't know? I don't think his apology is he's apologizing. It's not sincere. That's why I'm not convinced, and it's a little strange to me. When you say, I already apologized, you know, it's just sort of like, I said the thing that I have to do to move this thing forward rather than I need to actually demonstrate growth and understanding. And you can do that to a certain extent. And I don't think, I don't think he needs to like carry this cross forever. And I, cause that's, but that's where I'm, I'm like, I feel like with Ellen, she could have asked him some tough questions or like been a little more,
Starting point is 00:14:22 like, let me, like, let me press you a little bit about this. And for him to be like, you know what? You're right, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Then her just saying, you've already apologized. Don't let these people win. I mean, I don't. That's where I'm like, what? I just don't understand.
Starting point is 00:14:36 He already said he didn't want to do it. He already apologized. Why is she bringing it back up? Yeah, and that's the question that Nick haven't seen nick is asking is what what's in it for her because it seems like she has a vested interest in getting him to host um and she did i mean the conversation was like and you and i have had meals together since this where we've talked through this so she was like making reference to the fact that he had done the stuff that you're asking him to do in the public. So she's like saying, yeah, you've like worked through that with me in the interview, but it's not like it.
Starting point is 00:15:11 You still need him to say it. I was like when Roseanne was like, I know this black activist who knows my heart. Right, right. And I'm like, OK, I think Roseanne's just fucked up. Yeah. More than she's a racist. If I'm. Oh, yeah. I think. Has anybody just fucked up more than she's a racist, if I'm being honest. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Wait, has anybody asked her to host the Oscars? I would tune in. I would tune in for that. That would be amazing. This is a monologue I'm excited about. And apparently Kevin Hart is considering, maybe by the time you hear this, he will have accepted the job once again. So, yeah, We'll see. Ellen makes shit happen. Ellen gets it done.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Let's talk briefly about this burnout article that people are talking about. Were you guys familiar with it? Did you read it? Yes. I've been seeing lots of millennials reacting to it as well. Right, about how we as millennials are in a constant state of being burnt out, essentially.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Yes, because we're always on the clock. We need to be reachable by mobile phone. There's also the, like, you always feel like you should be tweeting or doing something on social media to build your brand, and that that just leads to this feeling of burnout that I don't necessarily know is specific to the generation as much as it's just specific to the world now. I know a lot of people who are older than me who live this life
Starting point is 00:16:35 and are also burnt out. Always on call. Yeah, always on call. Well, but I think the thing that might be a little more specific to us generationally is the lack of security in terms of careers and those other things because we were coming out, like the lack of security in terms of careers and those other things, because we were coming out, like we're joining the workforce on either side of the financial crisis where we had limited opportunity. And then also like the weight of not having health insurance and all these other costs of living now that are purely like new things for our generation, where our parents are like, Hey, uh, I was able to go to college this that in the other way and also provide for a family coming up the economy was strong and now it's just like a lot
Starting point is 00:17:09 of young people having to balance many different things and not making and making sure that all of the bills are paid it's uh yeah yeah you know yeah i generationally i agree it's like the middle class is shrinking no matter what age you are. And unfortunately, a lot of people who are post college tend to be middle class because you're, you are having to pay off debt. And you're also trying like, you know, I'm 32 years old about to be 33. I can take trips. I can, you know, I can live freely. Could I buy a house? Fuck no. And part of that is I live in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I could buy a house in Topeka. But we're also fleeing the center of the country a little bit too. So a lot of millennials have choosed to live in more expensive places. So some of it is just environmental. Some of it is societal. But yeah, is it the internet? Probably. Yeah. It seems like it's a lot of factors. sort of just environmental. Some of it is societal. But yeah, is it the internet? Probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:07 It seems like it's a lot of factors. People really want to like, you go on vacation. Those are the times you're like really, or you're just over the holidays. But like everybody is on their phones more. Right. It's like more Instagram stories about your nieces. Right. Look at these palm trees where I'm laying out. Like you almost need to have rules
Starting point is 00:18:25 if it's something that stresses you out to be like, you got to unplug at some point. Yeah, that was the thing that really resonated with me. She wrote, everything good is bad and bad is good. Like feeling like you're fucking up when you're supposed to be relaxing because you're not working and then only feeling okay about yourself
Starting point is 00:18:42 when you're working your ass off. It's like- Because you're like, oh, I'm justifying my existence now. Exactly. I was like deathly ill. I mean, not deathly. That's an over-exaggeration. But you can hear from my voice.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I probably over-exaggerate in times of like when I want pity. But I was really, really sick. Couldn't get out of bed for two days. And I was like, oh, I feel like such a piece of shit. And it's like, I can't do anything. Yeah, right. I'm gross. What are the rules in which it's okay
Starting point is 00:19:07 to be incapacitated? Yeah, and so you sort of almost have to like embrace being sick. Like, oh, I'm gonna watch seven episodes of 90 Day Fiance and that's fine because I can't go anywhere. Those who disobey the queen will die, you know? Oh my God, Larissa.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Larissa. Did you see that finale? So I've seen the finale. I just haven't seen the tell-all yet. Ooh, it gets spicy. I can't wait. Yo, she has a meltdown. I mean, she needs a spinoff.
Starting point is 00:19:32 She needs her own show. She is TV gold. I have no idea what you're talking about. Don't worry. That's why I'm about to spinoff. And Colt, his body is the craziest. I've never seen a man shaped like that. Colt?
Starting point is 00:19:44 Colty? Yeah. Colty. Colty? Yeah. Colty. Colty is, he's unique. In a good way or a bad way? In a bad way, but it's, you know when you see a pear-shaped man and you're taken aback? Yes. I think that's why Washington was able to be our first president.
Starting point is 00:19:58 If we had been living in an era with technology where we could see photos, you'd be like, I don't know if a man with wide-set hips like that can be. Wait, Washington has wide-set hips? Washington was pear-shaped. He had a very feminine body. Oh, look at that. He had that junk in the trunk? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:13 The other place where the argument about it being a generational thing came into focus is in the discussion of 90 Day Fiancé, which actually takes up most of the article. As it should. In the discussion of 90 Day Fiancé, which actually takes up most of the article. No, it's just the other generation and media's version of millennials being lazy and unreliable or late for things or unable to accomplish basic tasks. And it's like we're like coming into a shitty economy. The workplace is like a more hostile place than it's ever been. And technology has made our lives more difficult than they've been in your experience. Yeah. The errand paralysis thing was really kind of what struck me too, was sort of like the idea that like, yeah, they were talking about, there was that piece that came out where a bunch of millennials was like, I don't know if I
Starting point is 00:21:00 can vote in the midterms. Like, I don't know if I can handle it. And people were like, oh my God, can you believe this? Whereas they're also looking at how increasingly like millennials, like we've found ways to do things more efficiently. Right. But things that require like mailing shit in and those other things just like we just freeze up. Like they were talking about one person had like hundreds of dollars that didn't of clothing that didn't fit because they couldn't just get their shit together enough to do it because
Starting point is 00:21:24 these are tasks that like require a lot of energy but low payoff. I'm wearing a bra right now that does not fit because I was like, I don't know how to send it back. So I'm like, I wear it. I own it. I wear it every day. It does not fit. It isn't comfortable.
Starting point is 00:21:37 But I'm like, you know what? It was sent to my house. It's mine. Venmo Megan some money so she can get new bras. I need a new. And a new ring. I do think that if there had been the internet 30 years ago, there would have been articles about like, baby boomers, these pieces of shit.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Oh, yeah. Like, I think it's just, we're so insulated in our, like, we just analyze things so much more, and I think a lot of it to a fault. And by the way, there were articles about how baby boomers were pieces of shit. Yeah, and there are now. It was just different arguments.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Yeah, because they were dumb hippies. And it turns out they were right. Look at these fucking hippies. Turns out those articles were right. Sorry, baby boomers. There's just this job posting in an article about this article that I wanted to read that I think gets at like something, sort of the mindset that caused the problem we're describing. This meta.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Yeah. So there's someone posted this job posting, a 28-year-old entrepreneur is detailing the requirements to be his part-time assistant. He says, if you want to clock in and clock out of your job, this isn't for you, and reminds people that high performers work until their tasks are done, not just until the clock runs out. I don't know. Yeah, well, you know, I understand that to a point,
Starting point is 00:22:45 and I don't, right? Because, like, I see people, younger people, too, have just terrible work ethic in general, and I think maybe that's what they're getting at. But the idea that it's like, you are not allowed to separate your personal time from your work time is an absurd thing to sort of ask of someone
Starting point is 00:23:00 just to be someone's assistant, 28-year-old entrepreneur. Yes, that's frustrating to me. But I also see people who are like at other jobs I've worked at where young people are like wildly
Starting point is 00:23:08 like just like trying to run the clock out. Yeah. And then be like, all right, got to go. Don't call me. Can't do anything. But maybe they're just
Starting point is 00:23:14 taking care of themselves. I have not seen that as much. I also think this 28 year old is just a dickhead. Right. You know, like I've seen, you know, we live in LA. We've met assistants
Starting point is 00:23:23 of very, very famous people. And some of them, I would say, are really, really happy. And they're like, listen, is it 24 hours? Yeah, but are they going to text me at 2 a.m. and be like, I want a milk bar crack pie? No. They're like respectful, normal human beings that understand boundaries. This sounds like he wants to do it for the sake of like, I work hard, you work. And this is a work hard, play hard.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Yeah. Fuck off. Or just kind of like, I'm going to fucking just boss you the fuck around. Yeah. That's all I need. I want to be able to yell at somebody. Yeah. And what is his business?
Starting point is 00:23:53 He probably makes like silly swim trunks. Right. Yeah. And check out the article, the burnout article, if any of this resonates with you. I will say the first person they interview is a millennial talking about how he can't vote. And he was the least relatable of all the complaints. So don't get too slow down.
Starting point is 00:24:12 The person who let the clothes rot in their closet, I was like, bro, I'm so bad at returning shit. I'll just be like, I'll make it work. My dog will eat fucking mouse food. And by the way, it's worth going through this whole article and thinking about which of these things are good for corporations and which of them are bad. Every single one is like good for corporation. We've just turned into. They get more out of us.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Yeah, they get more like we keep the shit because we don't want to return it. And also we're like the perfect worker bees. Like it's it's all just America buying more and more into the, you know, corporatocracy. So we got to get a work life balance we gotta look at these Denmark's and you know these Nordic countries that listen do they have the highest rate of
Starting point is 00:24:53 alcoholism sure do they have the most vacation days yes you know like come on another reason why democratic socialism is becoming more popular amongst millennials is because all this all these pressures of having to like provide your own health care and like going bankrupt has got people being like hold the fuck up man this is stressing me the fuck out why why
Starting point is 00:25:14 are we the only fucking country where i have to worry about oh yeah right and so i think that's like you know i think as part of the self-care is realizing the things that we actually shouldn't be responsible for and what you know the corporations or employers and government needs to actually step in. Well, and I think women, you know, women talk a lot about there was a British article that came out about safety work. And so women are having to do even added number of like, I have to go this way so I don't get fucking killed. Right. There's all these extra things. We're just like,
Starting point is 00:25:45 oh, I'm going to try and survive. Truly, truly. I can't live certain places, walk certain streets. There's something like that in New York, right? They called it the woman's commuter tax about how women have to be more considerate or not considerate,
Starting point is 00:25:59 but have to consider the risks of the modes of transportation they take or the way they get to somewhere. I would pick apartments in New York where I was like, listen, this place is more expensive, but I'll be taking less cars home because it won't be I won't be walking 14 blocks. Right. From train station to house at 2 a.m. because you I mean, you cannot do that. It's it is too frightening. All right. We are going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:30:17 listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back, and we are now joined by Super Producer Ana Hosniyeh and host of Behind the Bastards, Robert Evans. What's up, guys? Hey. Hi. How's it going? So I wanted to talk to you guys about uh the saudi teenager rahaf alkanan uh who
Starting point is 00:30:50 is basically ran away from her family uh barricaded herself in a bangkok airport hotel room uh to prevent officials from sending her back to her family uh And Robert, I wanted to get you on specifically because we kind of covered a similar-ish story of a young woman having to run away from her family in Pakistan, basically, and using a hotel as sort of an underground railroad a while back. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:23 We had that woman talk to us about her family essentially trying to force her into marriage and needing to escape through this hotel, and this Pakistani hotel already had plans in place for this sort of thing because it happened often enough. And we did another article a couple of years earlier with a woman who lives in or lived in Denmark and so grew up in, you know, a pretty, pretty Western nation, but whose family was very fundamentalist and who was afraid of essentially being murdered for the fact that she wasn't religious and that she was dating guys and, you know, doing all these things that her family had forbidden her from doing. And her fear was that she would go back home to Pakistan on vacation
Starting point is 00:32:05 at some point and essentially never come back, which happens to a number of women who are in that sort of situation. So we've dealt with, or we dealt with back at Cracked, a couple of different women coming forward with stories of this sort of thing. Yeah. And Anna, you were saying that you're familiar with. Yeah, it happens all the time where you know like the dubai the king of dubai's daughter sheik latifa bin muhammad al-mukhtum tried to escape because she was basically being held held in a hospital just drugged because she was considered too wild by her father and you know there was another story of a woman uh this was last year she was trying to get to australia from kuwait and she was held up in the Philippines airport and basically sent back to Saudi Arabia and has not been heard from since
Starting point is 00:32:48 Jesus Christ so those are the stories of when this doesn't work out well or doesn't work out for the person trying to escape but it sounds like Rahaf did all of the things she would need to do to ensure that that couldn't happen to her
Starting point is 00:33:04 like she learned her English was good enough that she was able to get across the details of her situation and like the videos and she was smart enough to like she had a really i think i think the smartest thing she did was record herself in that barricaded hotel room because the visuals of that were just so like of course that was going to to take off and like once you get i think she got something like 45 000 twitter followers in a couple hours, which is like if you're a young woman in her situation, that's the only thing that's going to protect you is creating enough of a media spectacle. But they can't just send you home. Right. Does this I mean, it does it ever happen to sons? I mean, it must, but it tends to happen more and more to women and daughters.
Starting point is 00:33:46 must but it tends to happen more and more to women and daughters i think it uh we we've definitely at crack we interviewed uh some young men who were you know living in more fundamentalist cultures who were in the closet and you know having to hide that from their family and had often had to consider you know running away from their home country because, yeah, again, it's a situation where you're fighting for your life. It's not, you know, I want to be able to go to the mall. It's like, Jesus, these people will kill me. Right, for being who you are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:21 But they have, the men in these situations have a lot more options i met a young saudi arabian male couple when i was in the airport in amman jordan uh who had been living in san francisco for most of the time uh and who something was clearly going on but came back to saudi arabia every couple of years to go see their families and it seemed like the situation was you know their families had enough money that they could pretty much do what they wanted. And it was better for everyone if they just did their thing, you know, outside of Saudi Arabia and came back every couple of years to keep up appearances. And I don't think someone like Rahaf would have that opportunity,
Starting point is 00:34:59 even though she comes from that prominent and wealthy of a family. No, I feel like the men get to go on, they basically get to go on vacation. And then if a woman tries it, it's like, no, you're a woman. You need to understand your place. You can't just be running around with anyone. Like your place is in your home with your family until you're basically arranged to be married to someone. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:20 So now Thailand, are they keeping her at the embassy? Or is she going to be, what's her fate so far? I mean, she's been handed over to the care of the United Nations and she's somewhere in Bangkok with them right now. And I think from what I've read, it could take five to seven days to get a decision. It sounds like they're going to basically put her plea of asylum status over to the Australians in sort of a formal way. And it sounds like from what Australia said, if for no reason other than the prominence of this story, they're probably going to grant her asylum status. So that would be my guess is that she winds up living down under, mate.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Oh, wow. So for her, a happy ending, you know, an ending where she survives. But for many, if you don't go viral right right you're sent back yeah yeah i mean like one of the girls i was talking about last year who got caught up uh dina ali she didn't have a chance and she was trying to go viral there was like a hashtag save dina ali and yeah she couldn't do it and she got sent back and she hasn't been heard from since she had videos posted where she didn't show her face because she didn't want anyone you know to like actually report her if they saw her right right um but if she if this woman gets sent back there is a chance she will be killed yeah right
Starting point is 00:36:35 for her behavior yeah so yeah uh all right well thanks for joining us robert and obviously it's a horrible story but i think one that a lot of people aren't aware is happening in in the world like in the modern world and yeah thanks for joining us Anna I mean you hope they become activists like the more that can get out the more that they can share their story and be like no this is what's happening the I know where this girl lives this girl lives this girl lives because if there's no survivors of it then there's no one to carry on this horror right yeah well and then if there isn't enough international pressure because you know like yeah it's on i mean us are we even a part of the un i mean on paper let's talk about this wall, you guys. I'm sure... I love wall.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yes. It's like, I love land. Yeah. I just love wall, though. So two nights ago, the president interjected himself into our nightly TV viewing. Not for me. Not for Miles. I avoided it.
Starting point is 00:37:39 How'd you do that? I watched the Lindsay Lohan Beast Club show. Uh-huh. And it's a fucking mess. MTV knows where their priorities are. Yeah, in a way, I may have mentally fucked myself worse by watching that than watching the Oval Office thing. But that is a mess, too. So the president came on and made a kinder, gentler case for his monument to racism he was saying that this is about compassion and you know uh he's using imagery
Starting point is 00:38:06 of like holding the hands of women and children at the border uh as painted the families as people he's protecting uh and said that he's willing to compromise with the democrats which none of that is really accurate but you know pelosi and schumer then came on afterwards and seemed like they had prepared to respond to the typical Trump, which is like having an eight-minute temper tantrum. And so conservatives are saying Trump won, Dems zero in response to how that went. The media seems to be not as convinced the mainstream media well everyone was like we knew this was going to be a bunch of lies from him yes what's the point of airing that when like years before they didn't want to air obama talking about daca that's a whole other fucking thing and so let's talk about that so this is something that presidents you know use
Starting point is 00:39:01 their power to do every once in a while and they almost always are given the latitude by the networks to come on and address the nation right like and usually it's done uh i heard somebody put it that usually the president is coming on to soothe a scared nation or calm a scared nation and this time the president was using it to scare a calm nation. But there has been cases where the president tried to do this and the networks were like, no, that's too partisan, I guess, was their argument against Obama. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:41 That's wild. I mean, they just felt like it didn't warrant yeah the nation's attention to talk about daca right um yeah because this is in 2014 i think it was just like some local affiliates did it but like on the national level they're like i don't know let's see right but i think just because they know he's gonna say some fucking wacky shit that people tune in but like the odd part is more people watch the rebuttal than they did even the oval office address right so that's got to be chapping his little diaper awareness yeah i mean bear it was like a four percent increase and i'm sure it was just people tuning in late right um like seeing it on social media and seeing that it was trending
Starting point is 00:40:21 also and tuning in although like i couldn't think of two two worse people to do the rebuttal talking about immigration or even though they were focusing on other issues. But put some people who I think can speak with a little more passion than the two figureheads of the party. That was one thing I was like, okay. Combined age of 190 something. 300?
Starting point is 00:40:43 Yeah. They just seemed, I don't know. It wasn't a wildly effective rebuttal. That said, it was two minutes long and it's not like... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:51 And also, rebuttal to what? You know, anyway, like it's just, he was going to do his thing, just fan the flames of xenophobia, but put it under the guise of compassion.
Starting point is 00:41:00 And a lot of the conservative analysis is taking Trump's address and the Democratic rebuttal just completely on their own, completely independent of context of, you know, the fact that Trump hasn't really put himself in a position to persuade anybody who's not already a part of his base because he lies constantly. And I think people are well aware of that so if he suddenly starts saying compassion and hand holding like nobody's gonna be persuaded by that and by hand holding I mean I'm holding the child in the parents hands to break them apart
Starting point is 00:41:34 right but I'm technically holding their hands but it's just to you know unlink that because I'm kidnapping children one of the things that people speculated he might end up doing in this address to the nation was declaring a state of emergency, which he did not do. But that was kind of in the conversation in the lead up to this address. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:55 And that's actually really scary. There was this Atlantic article back in December talking about the basically the insane broad powers that are granted any president by their ability to declare an emergency. And this was actually, they wrote this before the conversation about him declaring an emergency to build the wall. Yeah. But we should be really very afraid of him setting that precedent or just the fact that he now is thinking in those terms. Because I've said before on this podcast that I don't think he's going out without a literal fight. I think he's going to find a way to bring the office and America to new all-time lows and create some sort of constitutional crisis before he's either voted out or impeached out of office. And this article really kind of outlines in detail how
Starting point is 00:42:53 he could do that. And I mean, they set up a scenario at the end of the article where Trump declares a national emergency in the lead up to the 2020 election because he's losing. And he claims to have secret intelligence that Iran is trying to hack the 2020 election because he's losing. And he claims to have secret intelligence that Iran is trying to hack the election in his opponent's favor. And they basically lay out like this point by point way that he could use emergency powers. And the only way that it was unbelievable was that it suggested that Trump gave a shit what people think. And that has never been the case. And he seems way more of a smash and grab type person who's just going to grab as much power as he can and not give a fuck about whether people are protesting or angry about
Starting point is 00:43:37 how he's doing it. And so basically, they're just making the argument that legally, a president can basically do whatever they want. Basically, they're just making the argument that legally a president can basically do whatever they want. We have been relying on the fact that no president to this point has been willing to just ignore other politicians and the will of the majority of the people. And that is. I mean, George Bush. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:00 George Bush. Yes. But not like. Yeah, in this way. He was just trying to. He just wanted a war. Right. And, you know know want to be a war criminal but yeah i think in this sense of like the most self-serving aspect of it not just for the military industrial complex to get a check but like yeah yeah i just hope that trump just doesn't i hope he gets tired of this like i hope he's not having fun like he
Starting point is 00:44:21 wants to just like i'm done well it seemed like even then like when he told reporters about like him going to the border was just a photo op and he's like yeah because those people think i i should go i don't think it's going to change anything and he was like gesturing to sarah huckabee and uh like kellyanne conway like he's like i don't want to go but they say i have to yeah right so i don't know if he i'm hoping that he just does not enjoy this enough to the point where he's like i'm done yeah. Yeah, we'll see. There was an interesting guy, someone who was an advisor to Bush, also foresaw a scenario which Trump takes a plea deal with DOJ to resign the office and leave peacefully if he gets some kind of immunity for everything. But I just don't, I can't see, that would be, to see, to think that he could take some
Starting point is 00:45:02 kind of deal and walk out of here, I would be like I'm tired of any I'm through with any argument that he does the calm thing that we want him to do. It really is like when you're a sports fan, I've heard Bill Simmons talk about how you always want to do the thing that the opposing
Starting point is 00:45:21 team's fans don't want you to do and that's what Trump you don't want to push opposing team's fans don't want you to do. Right. And like, that's what Trump, like, you don't want to like push the issue or like, you know, be, you don't want the opposing team to be super aggressive and play to their strengths. And I feel like we're always wishing slash kind of assuming that Trump is going to eventually just kind of, you know, go away quietly. And I just don't, I think we need to be prepared for that never to happen. Right. Well, yeah, but the reason he would do it is to stay out of jail and keep all his kids
Starting point is 00:45:50 out of jail. Right. Which is the, that's the thing he does absolutely fierce. Because if you, what, are dying? He's definitely self-serving, which is- Wind. Oh, he also wins. I just don't think he-
Starting point is 00:46:02 He fears wind. He fears wind. I just don't think he fears wind. He fears wind, he fears rain, and he fears himself going to prison and people making fun of him for his children going to prison. I don't think he really gives a shit about anybody except for him and Ivanka going to prison. I know, wouldn't that suck? You're DJ TJ, and you're like, well, Dad.
Starting point is 00:46:20 He's like, I don't know you. Right. Who the fuck are you? Yeah. And Super Producer Nick just pointed out that there's still speculation that that might have been what happened with Nixon. Because Nixon was equally like a power crazy, I can launch nuclear bombs if I want, like drunk in the White House type of a loose cannon throughout his presidency and there's speculation that that's basically how they got him to go quietly was by saying you pardon me and i'll go quietly pardon me do you have any yes uh all right we're going to take a quick break we'll be right back
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Starting point is 00:50:14 She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything?
Starting point is 00:50:29 You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from blumhouse television iheart radio and realm listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back well uh we got to bring in super producer
Starting point is 00:51:00 on a hosnier on this mic. Get up in there. Get up off of that thing. Hi. Hi. Oh, so sorry to bother you. God, there's electricity coming in. Shooting through the room. So super producer Ana Hosnier, you left the office for three hours yesterday
Starting point is 00:51:19 to engage in what is known as a Bachelor fantasy draft. Explain to us. You work on a Bachelor podcast. What's a Bachelor fantasy draft. Explain to us. You work on a Bachelor podcast. What's a Bachelor podcast called? No. Yeah. That's not on this network. What's it called again?
Starting point is 00:51:31 It's called Will You Accept This Rose with Arden Marine. Okay. Yeah. So if you didn't know, I host a Bachelor podcast. Whatever. This new year, it's Colton the Virgin is the Bachelor. The football player, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:42 He's former football player, current bachelor. So he was runner up on the bachelorette? No, he was cut fourth. He was the fourth person cut. What's the formula again? If you're just cut, it doesn't matter how deep you go. It's just like if you're cut later
Starting point is 00:51:56 in a later stage, you get to be the bachelor. I think the formula is the focus group who is popular. No, but he was one of the least popular. People were pissed he got picked. Oh, really? Because he's a virgin. He was boring was boring all he does is cry he clearly doesn't seem like he's ready for a relationship and there is a subsect that believes he's closeted he was the fourth he came in fourth or he was the fourth person cut he came in fourth place okay okay i also think he
Starting point is 00:52:19 benefited from the bachelor in paradise that girl girl from Arkansas who just kept going, Colton, Colton, Colton, Colton, Colton. I believe he went on Colton. Colton. That is true. That's a real thing. Where's Colton? The first episode was her just being like, oh God, Colton.
Starting point is 00:52:38 It's really true. They fucked her over. Her edit was that she's a psycho who's obsessed with Colton. Colton. Colton. Is het. Was he not on Bachelor in Paradise? What happened was he got caught
Starting point is 00:52:51 I sound like if a deer could talk. I don't know if a deer could talk. This is what a deer would sound like, y'all. It's always funny when they're like that and they're like, I got my PhD in social work. And you're like, what the fuck like yeah it's all learned as fuck that's one of the reasons i left and they i think people do it old ladies are the worst because they're like hey how you do like get away from me old lady i know you're fucking game uh so basically what happened he came in fourth
Starting point is 00:53:21 place he was cut before the fantasy suites because he's a virgin and he literally goes up to chris harrison who's the host and goes what do i do and chris harrison's like you're a grown-ass man figure it out uh you don't need to lose your virginity on tv sir it came out that tia who was a contestant on um ari's season him and tia had had a relationship previous to the season and so tia was still obsessed with him and told becca so that kind of helped in becca deciding to kind of send him on his way yeah I don't know Becca was the bachelorette that cut him and kind of was like Tia's my friend I don't want to do so anyways the bachelor this year is a virgin yes so that was the whole thing a former football player and one so you draft various yes so we do a draft on our podcast where we go through just the images and the bios,
Starting point is 00:54:06 which is truly the most, it's fucked up. We're fucked up people on this episode. We go through just by literally their looks and them being like, my favorite color is yellow. That's actually one of them. It's like, that's not interesting. And then we pick our top three. We pick our top crazy and we pick our drunk on the first night.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Oh, nice. So who are your top three? So my number one is Hannah G. My number two is Brie, who we'll get to. And my number three is Kaylin. And my top crazy is Aaron. What does top crazy mean? It just means they're going to be like psycho the whole season and everyone's going to hate them.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Like all the other girls are going to be like. And you guys will agree? Are there points you get for doing specific things? No, we're just. It's just everybody will be like. Are there points you get for doing specific things? No. It's just everybody will be like. Eventually one person will probably emerge as someone everyone unanimously agrees is the crazy one. Yeah. And then my drunk on the night is Erica, who in her bio is self-described as the nut.
Starting point is 00:55:00 So she's going to probably be wasted the first night. Tell us about pick number two now. Because a lot of people were tweeting me about this. I never saw this video. But what's going on? So, Brie, a clip dropped of her during her when she walks out of the limo to introduce herself to
Starting point is 00:55:15 Colton. I think we have a clip, don't we? Yes. She has a gimmick that is mind-blowing. Nick, roll the tape. So nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. You got a nice accent. Where are you from? The accent, it's Australian. I was hoping that you're kind of a sucker for accents.
Starting point is 00:55:32 I am. I didn't know what you think about it. I love it. I'll see you inside, alright? Okay, sounds good. I'm not really Australian, but you have to do what you can to stand out. Yo. That's an interesting choice. That is an interesting twist. That is an interesting story.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Yeah, that's flagrant. Move. Yeah, the vaccine is Australian style. That's like going to the NFL combine and bringing in like a baseball. I'm going to stand out. The lack of her voice afterward was just like, fuck you. I don't care what I did was wrong. And I'm not sorry for it.
Starting point is 00:56:04 She's not here to make friends it would seem the thing you're starting to realize is these girls are now at that age where they literally grew up watching the show they understand the formula and i'll tell you what brie is doing brie is saying i don't really give a shit about colton but i'm here to act a fool enough where i end up on paradise and then boom my instagram followers go up and i'm the spawn con queen with my thirst traps and i'm literally selling sugar bear hair pill gummy bear shit and uh diet tea and that's the plan and you see it from day one you know who's acting a fool to get on paradise because
Starting point is 00:56:36 they understand the formula now yeah jamila jamil would be very disappointed in her pushing that old dumb shit yeah it's like some of those real world road rules people. They're like, for a while, that was their job was going on those weird game. The challenge. Yeah. And that's how CT, I think he was living off of that for many years. But what's he up to now? What does one do?
Starting point is 00:57:00 What does a CT do after that career? Is he just like, now I sell insurance? CrossFit is involved. He's also probably a motivational speaker. They all find a way to be like, let me motivate you to do what I did. Yeah, I started as a guy from Boston. You know, when DM, you know, when she got the cancer,
Starting point is 00:57:15 it was really tough. But I was born with this bone structure, which really helped. All right. Well, thank you, Super Producer Ana Hosnia. We will be checking in with you as Brie continues to make news in the world of The Bachelor. I can't wait. I'm not really a lady either. She's like, I'm a shapeshifter. I hope she wins.
Starting point is 00:57:37 I hope she wins. What is something you think is overrated? Oh, there's a few things. Okay. And I don't know which one. Political correctness. Okay. For sure. I feel like is think is overrated? Oh, there's a few things. Okay. And I don't know which one. Political correctness. Okay. For sure.
Starting point is 00:57:47 I feel like is hella overrated. Especially right now. Right now. I just, it's fraudulent. I feel like people do things under the guise of political correctness where they don't actually mean what they're saying. They just don't want to stir the pot or say something offensive, but they still feel that way inside, which is phony.
Starting point is 00:58:04 to stir the pot or say something offensive, but they still feel that way inside, which is phony. Right. And being in this industry of entertainment and seeing that people are like casting certain people because they look diverse, but they don't really care about diversity. They just don't want to be called racist. It's a superficial. Right. It's so superficial.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I'm tired of it because I'm a black person that obviously doesn't look traditionally black. But like, I've been overlooked for so many things because they want someone who's obviously looking black so that they don't look racist. Right. Like, imagine it. Remember when SNL was casting? Mm-hmm. When they were having, they got called out for not having any black women in the cast. And then imagine if they had hired me.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Right. Right. They'd have been like, of all the black women, you had to pick this one. But that had hired me. Right. They'd have been like, of all the black women, you had to pick this one. That shouldn't matter. Right. If I'm talented and I'm right for the job.
Starting point is 00:58:52 But they obviously had to go with a more brown so they don't get called out again. Right. And that's just a thing that I have to deal with regularly. But I know that other people have to deal with it as well. It's like if you're not representing what this particular agenda is,
Starting point is 00:59:03 then you're not good for it. Right. Yeah. Which is not true at all. Yeah. It's like it's almost like a thought stopping thing. Yeah. Political correctness where you're just like, OK, and this is the right thing to say.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Right. And this fits into that. This is the right thing to say. I don't believe it. Right. I don't believe it. I'm not going to stand by it. I'm just going to tweet it, though.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Yeah. Right. All right. Let's talk about Mackenzie Bezos and Jeff Bezos. They announced that they were super amicably splitting after 25 years of marriage. This seems like something to aspire to if you're going to get a divorce like the way they're doing it. They just seem very positive. It seems like for the last year or something, they were separated.
Starting point is 00:59:43 There was like a trial separation. And they were working on it. And then, you know, but then- They got four kids, but I think they're mostly grown. So, you know. Yeah. Well, I mean, luckily for them, or maybe for Mackenzie, Washington, the laws in Washington State and the lack of a prenup means she'll be getting half of his $140, $144 billion
Starting point is 01:00:03 fortune. What's to be mad about? No. Peace. Will they be like the third and fourth richest people in the world now? Well, now he's going to be below Bill Gates. Yeah. And then she becomes the wealthiest woman on earth.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Right. That's amazing. I like that. How long had they been together? 25. 25 years. And a thing they said was in their joint statement about their super amicable separation is that they were like, if we had known at the outset that we were going to have these 25 years,
Starting point is 01:00:31 we'd do it all over again. I think that's a good way to think about it. You know, like, you know, it was what it was and it's over. It's run its course. Yeah. When it's over. That's what happens, man. Everything ends.
Starting point is 01:00:41 When you get to the details of like what he's up to now, you get into the billionaire headspace that's like, oh, you're on some next level shit. Because he's already dating his best friend's wife. What? Ex-wife. No. No. Wife. Current wife.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Current wife. So they're separated as well. They're separated. I guess they're separated now, right? They planned the separation. They're just going to swap. This is like wife swap? I don't know, man. They're separated. They're separated now, right? They planned the separation. They're just going to swap. This is like wife swap? I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:01:06 It's interesting. So it is somebody who Miles grew up having a crush on, Laura Sanchez. From Fox 11 News. TV anchor. Fox News. Local TV anchor. Fox 11, like local Fox. Oh, Fox 11.
Starting point is 01:01:17 You're right. All I heard was Fox. It's triggering. Oh, yeah. Oh, you don't know the vibe of our show? Wait till we do our Brett Bayer sketch, because he's so Bay. No, yeah. Lauren Sanchez.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I used to, man, I love her. Yes. But she was married to Tony Gonzalez, I think, before Patrick Whitesell. Tony Gonzalez, then Patrick Whitesell, who was like the co-head of WME. Right. And then now she's climbing on up to that Jeff Bezos. Man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:45 It sounds like Lauren Sanchez, she sounds like just based upon her dating history and like she's been married twice. Is that what? So she's probably age appropriate, right? Yeah, she's 49. That's great. And he's 54. I love that. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:58 I think, you know, it's a good look for them, I guess, if they're splitting amicably. Because there's nothing to say. Look for them, I guess, if they're splitting amicably. Because there's nothing to say. The National Enquirer, now take this with like nine million grains of salt, was like, you know, they were dating even before the trial separation. Most people were like, no, once they separated, that's when he started dating her. But a lot of people were also like, does any of their split have to do with. Because like about almost two years ago, 18 months ago, when like Swole Bezos came out.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Everyone was like. I when Swole Bezos came out, everyone was like, what? I missed Swole Bezos. Yeah, suddenly he just came out just jacked. Like Chappelle had run away for 10 years. And then made his head look even smaller. That's sort of what Jeff Bezos did. A lot of people were like, oh, I wonder if that's when the split began. And he was like, he's trying to get his groove back.
Starting point is 01:02:41 That midlife thing. I mean, that makes sense. Right. So there's a couple quotes from him that seem like they're veering in the, oh, this dude's a creep direction. But actually, I don't hate him for it. So he was like, at a certain point, I was sort of a professional dater. And I had to develop what he labeled women flow,
Starting point is 01:03:01 which is like the equivalent of deal flow when a wall street person is like i won't have anything under a 10 million dollar equity investment but then he said the number one criterion was that i wanted a woman who could get me out of a third world prison what which is very specific but like when you look at laura sanchez so first of all, his wife, who he's separating from, is actually very smart. Miles, you were saying Toni Morrison was her teacher at Princeton? Oh, wow. She was my greatest student in literature or whatever. Toni Morrison taught her?
Starting point is 01:03:34 Yeah. That's amazing. How lucky. And so Laura Sanchez, she used to be man on the street reporter, local news reporter, which is kind of a badass job. I have a friend who did that, and she like kicking down doors and getting like punched and shit. Like it's a tough job. Well, I don't know if Lauren Sands was doing that. She was, especially when she did Good Day LA.
Starting point is 01:03:52 To become a local news reporter. Yeah, for sure. You got to be in the shit for a period of your career. It's like Navy SEALs training, right? Right. But now she has started a new career where she launched a business where she is a helicopter pilot who shoots footage for films she shot footage for dunkirk she has a credit on dunkirk yes she wow her company and she is a helicopter pilot so she learned how to be a
Starting point is 01:04:18 helicopter pilot was like man this is a lot of fun skills skills yeah Skills. Yeah. Oh, wow. So, I mean, he seems to be sticking with that because it seems like she could stage a helicopter-based prison break. Yeah. You know? He was like, tell me about your skills, Mom. She's like, well, I'm a helicopter pilot. He's like, how are you with lockpicking? Right. Oh, well-versed in lockpicking.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Safe cracking. Right. I speak 19 languages. Yeah. He makes her disarm a bomb on their first date. Yeah, she's like, I know how to do Morse code with my eyes. Right. I speak 19 languages. Yeah. He makes her disarm a bomb on their first date. Yeah, she's like, I know how to do Morse code with my eyes. Yeah. There's also some shit in the National Enquirer that was like leaked text messages that are just creepy, but I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:54 If they're real. Yeah. But if they are real. I love you, alive girl. Was a text he sent her. What the fuck does that mean? I love you, comma, alive girl. Now, it's better than I love you alive, comma, girl.
Starting point is 01:05:07 But alive girl being a nickname is very weird. It just sounds like an algorithm trying to fuck. I love you, alive girl. And then the other one said, I will show you with my body and my lips and my eyes very soon. I want to hold you tight. I want to kiss your lips. I love you. I am in love with you. I want to hold you tight. I want to kiss your lips. I love you. I am in love with you.
Starting point is 01:05:26 I want. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist. Please like, and review the show. If you like the show, uh, means the world to miles.
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