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Episode Date: January 20, 2019

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These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh extravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Okay, so this is my hardest category, you guys. But I would say that rejection is a bad thing and i'm being totally serious i i

was did you guys read the new york times thing that emily winters wrote about getting rejected 100 times no so that was like her resolution last year and mine was the same mine was actually 200 but we calculated slightly different oh it's to experience as much rejection as possible yeah because just as like a freelance creative person. Like I'm a perfectionist. And so I was like, I just need to desensitize myself a little and go for it. And it is totally a numbers game. So anyway, it unlocked all kinds of shit last year.

I just wrote about this. Right. And you had a terrible year in your career last year too, right? And we noticed. Don't ruin it. That's actually our first story. My worst years. Well, yeah. So what was that like going from perfectionist to like repeated exposure therapy to rejection?

It was just like, oh, this is it was like a key that unlocked, you know, what my career could look like. Right. If I just like went for it a little harder. Right, right, right. Rather than protecting yourself. I made way more money freelancing than I did the year before. I got way more bylines. I got, you know, I got a byline that was like one of my goal, you know, Washington Post.

And, you know, now I have more of those to get in the future. But I was like, oh, you know know this is more of how i should be pursuing sure well yeah and you're saying you're pushing back against people who are like rejection is bad right yeah well i had that belief yeah well i think that's like inherent right the fear of failure yeah yeah i think we're wired that way well and so many people too like you look at people how many people like might stall on their careers till very later in life and they're like the whole time i wanted it i just wasn't there mentally to allow myself to like open myself up to the threat of like i guess ego annihilation of being rejected or whatever yeah sometimes it is your own self-worth

shit that holds you back yeah or like i shouldn't be going for this yet or whatever yeah yeah like i'm not ready for this yeah yeah yo just fucking let the river take you you know know, don't hold on to the rocks along the way because it's going too fast. You know what I mean? The only way around is through, right? You got to take that conflict. And did you hit your number? Did you get to 200? Yeah, I actually.

Holy shit. Well, I counted, you know, if I followed up with someone and after a couple of times, like didn't hear back. Right. That was that's also a rejection. So I counted those, but I got over 200. Restraining order. Got like 200 of those. I can't go to Colorado anymore.

And you didn't have to like cram at the end of the year and just be like, hey, I want a million dollars. It was peaks. No. Just to get like some blanket rejections. to like cram at the end of the year and just be like hey i want a million dollars um it was no just to get like some blanket rejections it was peaks and valleys but i did like a lot in the spring actually it was maybe my busiest time of getting rejected so much work to get rejected 200 times yeah well it also changes your process right because you go from everything being a make or break situation or everything is riding on this one moment or opportunity to becoming more of like having more of like a scientific process and where you're experimenting. We're like, this works.

This didn't. This works. This did. OK. And I can sharpen it. Yeah. But it's not that many because sometimes it was like the same piece that was going out. And it's like for reasons that I have no control over that place wasn't gonna run it

and sometimes i'd send them out like in pretty quick succession because you know it was time sensitive or whatever so that's so great it's not like i just you had 200 ideas that didn't get used yeah yeah no totally yeah it's not that you are have bad ideas It's that you hustled your ass off. Yeah, I mean, that's a great way to think. Like, thinking like that helped me get around some social anxiety, just being like, okay, I am learning from this, and every time I'm uncomfortable, I'm, like, getting better at the experience. And so you almost go out seeking, like, the thing that you used to be afraid of.

Yes. Yeah, that helps you a lot. Well, there's so much valuable information in something not going right too. Right, exactly. Like if it's going right, you have very little reason to change your thinking or at least be a little more self-aware or analyze yourself. The worst thing that you can do, I think, is like close yourself off to it. Oh, yeah.

And that's what rejection normally does. So if you just are like staying open. And then you just become inert. You know what I mean? Yeah. If you don't really go and try and expand yourself. Let's talk rejection normally does. So if you just are like staying open. And then you just become inert. You know what I mean? If you don't really go and try and expand yourself. Let's talk about The Rock, you guys. So yeah, he came out, he gave an interview to the UK's Daily Star, which if you followed

the link to that interview, you came to find out was one of those UK tabloids that is much more lenient towards nudity than our tabloids. And just any kind of right wing thinking. Yes, that as well. But here are some of the quotes from The Rock. He said, so many good people fought for freedom and equality. So true. But this generation are looking for a reason to be offended. Uh-oh. If you are not agreeing with them, they are offended,

and that is not what so many great men and women fought for. We thankfully now live in a world that has progressed over the last 30 or 40 years. Correct? People can be who they want, be with who they want, and live how they want. That can only be a good thing. But Generation Snow generation snowflake or whatever you want to call them not that are actually putting us backwards so this kind of confirms or leads me down a path that i was starting to suspect about the rock when he had his feud with vin diesel who i'm sure is also like a movie star with like a big ego and so so I'm sure all their beefs on the set of the Fast and the Furious

franchise are stupid and over really silly stuff. But he was really macho gym teacher when he would insult Vin Diesel. He'd be like, we got these candy ass wimps on the set. And Vin Diesel is sort of an effeminate dude when you see him outside of certain roles. He's like a dancer. He seems very drunk. Yeah, yeah.

When I worked at Oscars, for a party he came through, it was like tipped. But he's like a nerdy dude. He really puts on the like, yo, man. Yeah, look how I'm doing. Yeah, for movies. And then off the set, he's like a dancer who plays D&D. And then off the set, he's like a dancer who plays D&D. And so I was like, man, is The Rock just like that dude who is, you know, will bully you like an older brother type shit?

Like you said, Amy, we're right to suspect that this has something to do with Kevin Hart. He's defending his homie. Yeah, they've been in a few movies together. Yeah. Central Intelligence. Oh, yes. The Great. They're all good. Jumanji.

Right. uh central intelligence oh yes the great they're all good right but yeah i think it's a part of me is like uh do do i read into this like super duper hard or because then other times he'd like in other culture war moments he does fall on the right side of the argument like when it came to kneeling he was like well clearly they should be kneeling because people are not understanding why they're kneeling and you think this is a moment for politicians to understand what these people are trying to protest. So I don't know if it's or if he's just like old school where he's like, yeah, I'll like make fun of how a gay guy dresses. But I would never hurt him. I don't know. It's almost this reverse bubble situation where I think when The Rock says that everyone now is freely allowed to be who they are and live with who they want, he believes that because of where he lives.

I think that's exactly right. But it's still not true. Yes. Yeah. I mean, people aren't allowed to just exist without violence and discrimination. Yes. So I just, I think grain of salt with everything. It's just like good to remember that he is a professional wrestler turned actor. And he is not where I go for my political hot takes on anything.

But if you want to see all four muscles in a quadriceps. Yes. Check out his IG. Well, I tweeted at him this morning at The Rock. Oh, good. If I'm such a snowflake, why don't you catch me on your tongue? And I have already been threatened several times um because that's just what happens when you're a woman you need

to eat at any celebrity especially the rock what are they what are the threats like oh i mean the replies are just i mean they're all over the place yeah yeah um yeah i i think you're right that this and this is an argument you hear a lot this seemed seemed to be Kevin Hart's entire defense that this is people getting mad for the sake of getting mad. And it just shows a complete inability or unwillingness to just acknowledge that there are victims. victims like that right you know the the don lemon video that uh we mentioned last week is really great where he talks about you know how child abuse towards gay youths is a huge problem especially in the black community and he wasn't even like kevin hart wasn't even telling jokes about it he was just saying he would beat his son if he were like i'll smash a dollhouse on his head or something right it wasn't a joke it was yeah. He also still, he tours with these opener guys called the Plastic Cup Boys. The Plastic Cup Boys.

All of his openers stay the same. And they're also like the team of people that write a lot of his material and like follow him around. But they open arena tours, which I've been to. him around but they open arena tours which i've been to and like they all have like some shitty caitlin jenner joke or like a bunch of homophobic shit right so and you know what's so funny is that he deleted all these old tweets but just like i shouldn't encourage this but just like a cursory search of any of the plastic cup boys with like the other F word, they're still out there. A lot of them are in conversations with Kevin Hart.

So it's like really weird that they have not scrubbed their Twitter. But yeah, like that's just the crowd that he runs with and it sucks. But I just, I think that he is homophobic. So he's not going to say that. He even said like, I don't want to be an ally. Like that's not my life's vision. Yeah.

And I don't know that The Rock fully understands that. But like, these are dumb people. Right. Right. Like, yeah. And I don't know that he's homophobic in the sense that, like, he wouldn't want to hang out with Ellen DeGeneres. Exactly. Yeah.

Exactly. Yeah. He's conveniently homophobic or he's passively homophobic in the sense that if he meets a new person who is not his chosen or accepted version of sexuality, he's going to be weird about it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I think it's just one of those things. It's different, so he doesn't fuck with it or something. Yeah.

Yeah. But I also think The Rock is just repeating things. so he doesn't fuck with it or something. Yeah, yeah. But I also think The Rock is just, like, repeating things. I think at this point, like, people talk to a few other guys that they kind of agree with, and then they just, like, repeat a phrase, which I think is, it happens on both sides. I think for them, too, like, when you're at that level of celebrity,

like, you really do have to watch all your words. And I think them saying that is sort of like them being like, it sucks because i can't like if i were to just say if i were any motherfucker no one would give a shit yeah but if i say one thing the wrong way then i have all these problems and that's that probably feeds this mentality like well everyone just wants to be offended yeah and i think in general we should stop just like canonizing everything that every celebrity says and thinking that they're all of a sudden smart because they're rich, because they're not.

But I'm really tired of this just like villainizing of young people too, that the difference between fighting for freedom, like you have to go to war to fight for freedom. It's like, I don't know. Yeah, no, I mean, that seems to be a specific distinction he's drawing where like we will physically let you be

with whoever you want. In your home away from me. Exactly. But like then what do you think, he's drawing where like we will physically let you be with whoever you want like and that in your home away from me exactly but like then what do you think like telling a joke for people to laugh about about beating a person of that sexual persuasion like what do you think that does do you think that that is part of a free society like that seems i mean saying it is part of a free society and obviously as a comedian I have to like support that but I think that people need to just stop spending money

where they don't agree with the person saying something terrible you know like I'm open about saying I will probably still watch Kevin Hart partially because I'm a comedian but like I don't agree with him but if I were just a consumer I would just cut it out of my life yeah right you don't have to go see the movie you don't have to pay for a ticket yeah but I don't agree with him. But if I were just a consumer, I would just cut it out of my life.

Yeah. Right. You don't have to go see the movie. You don't have to pay for a ticket. Yeah. But people don't protest in that way. No one's been flooding out of the club when Louis shows up. Maybe one or two people.

Right. So like, I don't know. People are cowards. That's my quote for the day. Everyone's a coward. At the same time, I do think these people should reserve the right to, you know, point out when they think he's wrong. I agree. It goes both ways.

You know, you say some shit like that, then you open yourself up to other people voicing their opinion about what you're saying. And I think it's weird. Even in that quote, he doesn't really, like, explain how Jen Snowflake is ruining shit, which is a little weird. And I don't know, maybe they just selectively used quotes because they don't really give you a full transcript of the interview, just like these little quotes. Yeah.

And then their commentary in between and they're like, yeah, exactly, The Rock. But I think, yeah, I mean, I hope that his quote isn't that the sort of outpouring of young people pushing back against racist or homophobic comments

from people isn't what he's like, oh, they're fucking it up by calling this shit out. Yeah, that's also a fight for freedom. That's what I don't understand. And there's nothing to be gained from it either. As someone who's outspoken a lot of the time publicly on the internet about some of these issues, there is no reward for it. It's only nightmares.

So if some like 18 year old kid whatever is like brave enough to protest or speak up against the shitty things that kevin hart said that's great i mean that is i mean they're fighting for freedoms as much as anyone else well yeah yeah i think there's a general movement among celebrities that where, you know, they're comfortable with gaining power and fame and, you know, wealth from the public as celebrities always have. But now that there's like this social media where people are able to interface with them,

that like pisses them off. And that's kind of a new thing that, you know, I've heard, uh, George Clooney and Brad pitt like talk about how mad they are about like people being willing to you know it's like the angry tweets thing on on jimmy kim right well it's like a new thing that they're having to deal with and i think that ties

into this a lot that people are like well who the fuck are you to talk to me because they're old schools where that used to not be a thing that well Hollywood is still built to like it's still a industry where entire basically corporations are formed around famous people to keep them you know happy and so they're not hearing honest feedback on a regular basis and now that we have a culture where they can just like hear from any old asshole who wants to criticize them, then that is puncturing that bubble. And I think that's very uncomfortable for people who are famous. Sure, but you can't just be worshipped. I think we idolize our celebrities too much in general.

Totally. But they're very happy to have the other side, which is people spending billions of dollars to watch their movies. Yes. I think if people could see how, like after Kevin Hart sends out an angry tweet about people treating him unfairly, if they could see what he does immediately after that,

which is presumably like, you know, go lounge in a multimillion dollar mansion or bathe in champagne. He's fine. Doesn't he eat lobster backstage? Yeah, he does. Living the good life then. We only do that once a week here at the show. See? To be second rate.

Well, actually, I have to correct you. The worst thing you can do is report on something that The Rock was misquoted on. Okay, I stand corrected. That is the worst thing you can do is report on something that The Rock was misquoted on. Okay, I stand corrected. That is the worst thing you can do because our listeners were not happy with us, which is understandable. It was a bit of a timing thing where we recorded before he corrected the record.

But this is something to always keep in mind that the british tabloid media is they're on some shit they're on some shit they're willing to straight make shit up now did he now this is this is the other question we're asking do we know what really happened here did they frankenstein a bunch of other things together out of context to make I don't know if he is just you know more powerful and so much more likable than the British tabloid press that people are just like yeah they probably made it up I'm willing to go with him on it I handled it maybe they took a different word from like five different sentences to you know make it seem like he was being more opinionated than he is I don't want to judge him at all because, yeah, the media can be fucked up about stuff

like this. And The Rock is obviously supernaturally likable. And, you know, there's a reason for that. He used to be a Republican, though, guys. Just keep that in mind. Yeah. He'd pull up at the conventions. Yep.

Get the voter turnout hyped. Yeah. But then, you know, when they asked him if he was going to run, they're like, as a Republican, he's like, nah, I'm too smart. Right. I'm an independent now. Yes. But so at least, you know, that's the thing.

Like, even if he is a Republican, I don't really have a problem with it because he's not dealing with, like, the fucked parts of being a conservative from what I can see. Like, he's not on some xenophobic shit. If he is on this, like, you know, snowflake is, um, thing, if it was true and he was pushing back against, you know,

the, the idea that people are just looking for a reason to defend it, that would make me scratch my head a little bit, but yeah, I think there's room to be a chill conservative. Yeah. As my favorite spiritual guru, Kevin Hart said,

we have to make room for people to learn and grow, you know? That's, uh, so no, but, uh, yeah, Kevin Hart said, we have to make room for people to learn and grow. You know? So. Oh, shit. No, but yeah, Arabad and, you know, now you know that we record Monday's episode. Also, Jack has a wild elbow-sized mark on his chest, bruise. Because The Rock found him and delivered a people's elbow on him.

That's right. In the middle of Wilshire Boulevard. That is right. If he didn't say, it was just the millennials or the snowflake generation, right? Well, yeah, and this other thing of like that all these people fought for our freedom and it just, it read like just a total, like Fox News thinking. Yeah. And now they're just looking for a reason to be offended about anything and now it's setting us back.

Yeah. And it's like setting us back? And I was putting into the context of him calling Vin Diesel a candy ass on the set of Fast and the Furious. But again, I don't know the whole story there. It just, it read. I sometimes occasionally get very intense gym teacher vibes from The Rock. But this, I have no right to bring those vibes up in the context of this story because fuck the British tabloid media. If you haven't seen the documentary Tabloid,

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And we're back. Let's talk about the revelations at the end of last week that the FBI, after the firing of James Comey, kind of reframed the investigation into Russian intervention in the election and Trump's relationship with Russia to at least incorporate the possibility that trump may be a asset of the russian government so not an agent he's not like a secret agent who was brought up by the kgb and trained to like it's not it's not that movie shit it's just an asset means that they have something on him that allows them to manipulate his behavior. Yeah. Well, yeah. When you look at it, like all the things that Trump's done from a foreign policy aspect typically benefits Vladimir Putin. Right. From like changing like the platform of like the

Republican Party to like trying to like panic pull out of Syria and all these other things. to like trying to like panic pull out of Syria and all these other things. Yeah, it makes it look like, okay, so I mean, we know we've accepted that Russia was fucking around during the election to help him get elected. And then we see all these people in his orbit were also interacting with Russians for one reason or another, usually for the purpose of lifting sanctions. Right. So they can get their money flowing again. And now, yeah, like when they fired James Comey,

FBI's like, okay, let's check that this guy isn't an actual, like isn't somehow being manipulated, controlled by Russia in some way. Right. And it seems like, I don't know, this is not surprising based on, you know, a number of things, his performance at the Helsinki, the Stinky in Helsinki, as nobody calls it, or the fact just that he's very reliable in

terms of his ideas, the things that come out of his mouth seem to be ingested via conservative media, either Fox and Friends or, you know, rush or whoever it is but there's also these pro-russia policies that come out that nobody can really say where they're coming from like oh right right yeah it's just like the thing in the word salad of trump that doesn't totally fit with the rest of the pattern you mean like when he was like rewriting history about afghanistan yes exactly and then what was the other thing he was talking about montenegro yeah to attack russia which was he said that right right after in wasn't that right after he met with him in helsinki to tucker carlson yes right he claimed that so this is a we we talked about this at the time but

montenegro is a small country that Russia is claiming is a threat to them so that they can kind of ramp up militarism and be prepared to invade other countries and start their slow roll across the globe militarily. And the only other person who's really supporting that idea besides Putin is Putin allies and Trump. So the thing I've always heard from people who aren't willing to buy into the Russia investigation is, oh, well, it's not the worst thing in the world for America to have a leader who is pro-Russia in the same way that Obama was pro-Cuba and we didn't investigate him. But it just seems like

there's a difference there there's no clear aim there's no clear source of the ideas taking the transcripts right and that's too shady that is a good point so can you explain a little bit what that is well it came out this weekend i think right yes that from all five meetings he's had since he's become president with him or however many there are, he's either like sworn the interpreter to secrecy or taken this transcript or both. Yeah. Always takes the notes. He always takes the notes. Yeah. From the meeting.

And they're supposed to be classified. Right. Yeah. To a certain extent and then shared with the administration. Well, yeah. To a certain extent and then shared with the administration. Well, yeah. In past administrations, there would be people who would take the notes and then you would release that so people would know what the hell was going on.

If nothing sensitive was being spoken about, so you have an idea of what the interaction was about. But this one, there's no record of what was said, who was talking for how long or anything. Yeah. And like you said, pressing the interpreter to be like, don't fucking tell anybody what you heard. Right. Fuck what you heard. That is what a guilty person does. Yeah, no shit. And what's wild, though, too,

is that it's being hidden from his staff at the highest levels. Right. Even the closest aides have no fucking idea what happened. Like, subpoena that, like, she should testify. Yeah, that's what they're, that thing that a lot of people are like. The interpreter for the stinky in Helsinki? Yeah, let the interpreter pull up and be like, what the fuck were they talking about in there? Seriously. Yes. And they're, I think that's a lot of people are like. The interpreter for the Stinky in Helsinki? Yeah, let the interpreter pull up and be like, what did, what the fuck were they talking about? Seriously.

Yes. And they're just sweating. Yeah, and there's also the fact that he and people like Kushner have consistently lied about, you know, having back channels with Russia and any communication and meeting with Russia. Yeah. Well, you know, he's the president of the United States, and he always has our interests. Hey, but he's willing to face questioning about this because he went on noted Trump adversary, Judge Jeanine Pirro.

Noted Trump adversary. So Judge Jeanine's circus, I think the show is called, on Fox, she asked him straight up if he'd ever work. You know it's bad when she's asking him the hard-hitting question, but she was just like, yo, have you ever worked for Russia? And let's just listen to his answer because it was a lot. So I'm going to ask you, are you now or have you ever worked for Russia, Mr. President? I think it's the most insulting thing I've ever been asked.

I think it's the most insulting thing I've ever been asked. I think it's the most insulting article I've ever had written. And if you read the article, you'd see that they found absolutely nothing. But the headline of that article, it's called The Failing New York Times for a Reason. They've gotten me wrong for three years. They've actually gotten me wrong for many years before that. But you look at what's going on. You know, I fired James Comey. I call him Lion James Comey because he's a terrible liar, and he did a terrible job as the FBI director.

Look at what happened with Hillary Clinton. He still hasn't said no. Hillary Clinton investigation, one of the biggest screw-ups that anybody's ever seen as an investigation. And what happened after I fired him, Andrew McKay, Peter Strzok, his lover, Lisa Page, they did it. And you know, they're all gone. Most of those people, many, many people from the top ranks of the FBI, they've all been fired or they had to leave and they're all gone. This is what they were talking about. And obviously nothing was found. And I can tell you this, if you ask the folks in Russia, I've been tougher than anybody else, probably any other president, period.

But certainly the last three or four presidents, modern-day presidents, nobody's been as tough as I have from any standpoint, including the fact that we're doing oil like we've never done it. We're setting records in our country with oil and exporting oil and many other things. Yeah, well, look, so that was not convincing at all because it was a yes or no question. And he went on to meander town. Now, in fairness to him, on Monday, he was asked again outside the White House and he was like, no, never. I don't think my suspicion was, oh, well, he's not willing to lie about that. My suspicion was, oh, well, he's not willing to lie about that. I just think there's like an unconscious thing where he's like talking away from the lie and just saying nothing was found. He's just unintentionally betraying himself by continuously referring to it as like nothing being found as opposed to the reality of the situation. Also, the New York Times is not an investigative body.

They're not a law enforcement thing. So they're reporting on what was going on. It's not that they found anything, therefore innocent. Right. You know, but I just like how it's such an easy question to go, oh my God, let me start just rattling off some greatest hits real quick. Right. Like, I'm the toughest on Russia.

Lion James, Kony. I mean, Komi. Yeah, Kony. He just sounds- Kony 2012. Yeah, Kony 2012.y. Yeah, Comey. He just sounds, you know. Comey 2012. Yeah, Comey 2012. Yeah. Yeah, I think it definitely, I'm surprised he didn't try and redefine what worked meant.

He's like, what do you mean work? He's like, I've never worked for Russia. Do they have a check that says from the Russian Federation? No. Right. Have I hooked Vladimir Putin up with some work? Right. Yeah.

Yeah. So I don't like the premise of the question. Yeah. But yeah, we'll see. I think, but that's the thing, you know, like, just like how he said, there's no collusion or I didn't know anything about that. You know, like he'll say stuff like that and then walk it back. It was like, well, I still meant that.

Right. I was just answering that question directly how you framed it to me or posed it to me. You didn't say we'd pay for the wall i said that they would pay with with tax trade deficit being balanced out which doesn't anyway yeah we're gonna pay for it yeah uh so it's it's interesting it's an interesting time uh to just keep an eye on the president and uh i think even how he's being covered because i don't know the the media i i think the media has just been overwhelmed by this presidency and there's just too much for them to keep up with and so this is all of the information that we're now taking a second

look at are things that when they broke we were like like, oh shit, he must be a Russian asset because of like how he was behaving in Helsinki. But it's just, it gets, you know, snowed under by all the other madness. And yeah. Yeah. Well, it's one of those, yeah, like you said, or it's just, there are so many connections to Russia at every level, you know, that even if, you know, he could very well be an unwitting asset. You know what I mean? Where he very well might not have some kind of real sort of properly articulated agreement with Russia or Vladimir Putin. But just certain things based on like the environment around him, like lead him to certain outcomes. Yeah, the New York Magazine was speculating that it could be sexual or financial blackmail. that it could be sexual or financial blackmail. And if it's sexual, it probably won't be found out because that sort of thing is kept very close to the vest

by the people doing the blackmailing. But if it's financial, he's fucked. So this may be for the first time, time for the resistance to start hoping there is no P-tape because that would make it harder for something to show up in the Mueller report. I think the only thing that will ever show up about the P-tape other than the P-tape leaking is what we saw in the steel. Who knows?

He might have that shit, you know what I mean, on a little USB drive. And he's like, I have the tape too. I have receipts. So you'll know. That's true. It's coming to a barber shop near you don't we already know though enough now publicly that it's like if muller has any more stuff i mean that's it's it all looks so so so bad right but it's all political and it's all about how it's being covered by the mainstream media and i think they are overwhelmed they're doing their best uh i just don't know if they're up for it to convincingly give us

reality checks on just how crazy a lot of this shit is yeah what's sad though too is like regard like you know a lot of people are there's mumblings that maybe the muller report doesn't really it might be a real anticlimactic report or whatever. And, you know, we've always said we never expected the Mueller report to be like, there it is, game over, continue, enter 225 cents or whatever. No, like, you know, I think who knows what it's going to be.

But at the end of the day, there's not the political will from the Republicans to hold them accountable because there were plenty of things outside of the Russia shit that you would have been like, dude, this guy is a wholly unfit to lead the country. Right. Regardless of whatever Russia, the Russia aspect of it is just the decisions he's making with the treatment of people or like the national security apparatus. It's like there's so much shit, but it's just,

you know, Republicans don't want to turn on him yet. Yeah, and it's not just the mainstream media's fault because he has done some pretty sophisticated things in the creation of the idea of fake news and stuff. But, you know, it's all shit that dictators have done before, and it's like straight out of the Soviet dictator playbook. So, yeah, we'll just keep paying attention. Stay tuned, Zeitgang. Yeah, stay tuned. We'll have paying attention. Stay tuned, Zyte Gang. Yeah, stay tuned.

We'll have the answers. Or not. Who knows? All right, guys. 20 years ago, last week, The Sopranos premiered. I was not on the wave right away because I was, I think, too young maybe for it. Maybe also didn't have HBO. I don't know what i was paying attention to right

like during the first half of the first season i wasn't watching it and then i caught up oh so you only missed out the first half of the first season yeah oh i thought you were like and i started watching it five years ago i remember when he went on that college visit with meadow yeah yeah that episode was when everybody was like yo yo, this show is fucked up. And that's when I started watching. So Sopranos widely agreed to be, I think for a while people were like, it's the best show in the history of TV. And then Breaking Bad and The Wire came along and people started being like,

well, Sopranos is still pretty good, but not necessarily the best show. And now there's a lot of TV critics going back and re-watching it and pretty good, but not necessarily the best show. And now there's a lot of TV critics going back and rewatching it and saying, no, it is the best show. So the New York Times in honor of Sopranos 20, well, actually first, before we talk about the article that listed other shows besides the Sopranos, Miles, you're a big Sopranos fan. Love it. We watch funny videos around the office just from comedy TV shows, and The Sopranos is actually in heavy rotation

because some of these scenes that I remember thinking were funny, but they are up there with some of the best comedic scenes of all time. Well, because the tension is so high, right? Because these are criminal fucking immoral people. And I think that's the beauty of the show is like you find like david chase finds a way for you to be like they're also human and shitty and insecure and fucked up like everybody else yeah they might be murderers and adulterers and shit like that but then like yeah they paint it in a very human way that is great so then when

you see them like act out their insecurities and things like whether you know tony's arguing why like he lost a fight to Bobby. He's like, that would have been him on the floor. If they were, you know, like there's so many things like where their flaws are so transparent and they use that to create comedy that yet there are so many amazing moments.

I love that show. You know, I read this article that said pre nine 11, all of our stories were very clear as to who was the bad guy and who was the good guy. After 9-11, when we couldn't find the weapons of mass destruction, quote unquote, the style du jour was moral ambiguity. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. So like all of a sudden, Batman had a drinking problem or Iron Man had a drinking problem. Batman wasn't necessarily a good guy. Right. And then you've got the Sopranos where there's like guy doing evil things was actually a sweet guy. Yeah. Yeah.

Like, yo, but he loves animals, though. Right. He's a murderer, but then he's more worried about this horse getting killed. And the ducks in the pool and stuff. What was the horse's name? Paiomai. Paiomai, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Jesus, man.

What a performance. Or like when Christopher killed Cosette when he sat on her. He's like, that was a fucking dog. What? The dude was on heroin and that was a fucking dog yeah but the uh the intervention scene is on youtube and that's worth checking out yeah holy well please just watch the show but yeah i think out of context i think sopranos is actually best uh experienced in youtube clip form yeah no but there is some just incredible performances.

Gandolfini, Goat, probably. Watch it with an Italian family. It'll feel like you're in an IMAX theater. It's like, oh, what are you doing? I'm like, oh, this is like 3D. So the New York Times talked about how Sopranos paved the way for a bunch of other kind of prestige TV shows and listed the 20 best dramas since Sopranos paved the way for a bunch of other kind of prestige TV shows and listed the 20 best dramas since Sopranos. And it's an interesting list.

So, Miles, you were guessing some of the shows that were on it earlier. I think you guessed The Wire, Breaking Bad, The Shield. There's some curveballs, though. What are the curveballs? So Adventure Time is on there there they're calling that a that's a drama best drama series yeah they're calling it a drama and and the write-up is basically spending the whole time making the making the case that it belongs as a drama because it's dealing with good and evil and it's as fantastical as lost and buffy the vampire slayer

i think lost is on this list. I don't think Buffy is. Yeah, the other big curveball is Atlanta, which I can more see that case because that show is very, you know, like The Sopranos, it has really funny moments, but it also deals with some pretty dark shit. Yeah, it's thought-provoking stuff.

Very thought-provoking. Adventure. I've never seen Adventure Time. My ignorant point of view of it or my perception of it is that it's just like a funny cartoon. R.I.P. your mentions. Yeah, I don't know. If people want to hop in, just let me know.

I mean, if I should watch it, let me know. I just always see people at Comic-Con dressed as certain characters. Yeah, people love that shit. But it's pretty standard. The Leftovers, which season two of The Leftovers was fucking great. I don't know if you guys watched that. What was that one?

I haven't seen that. That's an HBO show also, right? That's an HBO show about the rapture where like people, it's basically the stand-ish, like the people just disappear off, like I think it's only a small portion of people disappear. Right.

It's also, it's very much, Tamara, like you were talking about 9-11, it's very much, the first season is just almost the rapture is a metaphor for 9-11. Like everybody's dealing with this tragedy that happened to them. You know, their loved ones got raptured up. Just everybody, like a bunch of people just disappear. And so it's the world after that. And so the first season is just uh i thought the pilot was fucking incredible but then the first season got a little i don't

know annoying uh but the second season they go to this town where it's just like this sort of becomes this religious community where nobody was raptured right like it it's just like it's exactly what the show needed. I haven't watched the third season, but second season of The Leftovers is amazing. So much good TV. There is. It's annoying almost.

Right. I feel like that dog in the video where they dump a bucket of tennis balls onto the deck. And I'm like, which ball do I want? Oh, see,

yeah, there's some good ones. Yeah, Battlestar Galactica. I was fucking with that. Deadwood, yeah. Deadwood, I got it. I think Deadwood might be my favorite on this list.

I love Deadwood. Yeah, Veronica Mars, okay. What's up with Homeboy and the Yellow Pathfinder? Will we ever know? Grey's Anatomy. You said The Shield is amazing, right? Shield is great, man. For a show, the pilot starts off with a fucking bang.

And that's one of the reasons why i even stuck through it because like at the time i did not have patience for shows but i was like oh oh okay there's a lot of really good international stuff coming out too like i've seen on netflix lately that's blown me away like usually international dramas i like international comedies don't always translate but there's one called norseman oh it was written by norwegians in Norway. So it was like Norwegian Viking time, like Viking situations, but with modern day Norwegian personalities. Oh, really?

So like they rape and pillage, but then apologize. Such a funny show. That's amazing. The Wire is obviously on here. Battlestar Galactica. Jane the Virgin. That's interesting too The Wire is obviously on here. Battlestar Galactica. Jane the Virgin? That's interesting, too. Yeah.

Lost. Veronica Mars was surprising to me. Grey's Anatomy was surprising to me. People fuck with Veronica Mars. Yeah, I know. They go crazy. They fan-funded that. Was it a movie?

Yeah. Right? Yeah. Or was it another season of it? I think it was a movie. Anyway. Yeah. Someone will correct me.

Anything missing you see here? I mean, they did not put Game of Thrones on, which I would probably agree with following. No, they did. They put it on the honorable mentions or the hardest ones to leave off the list. Interesting. Transparent is on there.

Enlightened is on there. I feel like you could have left that off. What about Mad Men? It's on there. I mean, I never watched it because it just was so slow for me. But everyone's like, man, it's... I think it's pretty great. I loved it too. I was the same way though. I was both of you guys. In the beginning, I was like, oh,

this is too slow. And I worked in advertising. So I kept seeing the string. I'm like, this isn't a real boy. And then when everybody else was done then i started watching it and i'm like oh this is really yeah yeah right i think everyone's like you gotta just get through that first season and it'll all it'll pay itself off yeah it really does they should pair tv shows with moods right pair wine with food seriously right i mean are

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Mother. Karen Pence is back at work. She missed her job teaching. And she is teaching at a school that is so anti-gay, they don't allow LGBT... Anything. Anything. No students, no messaging. And then even parents have to sign this weird I'll never gay agreement kind of thing. Right. This is in the Huffington Post, too.

They have some of the documents. This is a school called Emanuel Christian in Virginia. This is from one of the agreements that parents have to sign. It says, Moral misconduct which violates the bona fide occupational qualifications for employees but is not limited to

such behaviors as the following. Heterosexual activity outside of marriage, e.g. premarital sex, cohabitation, extramarital sex, homosexual or lesbian sexual activity, polygamy, transgender identity, any other violation of the unique roles of male and female sexual harassment, use or viewing of pornographic materials or websites. And then the application goes on to say that the school believes that, quote, marriage unites one man and one woman and that a wife is commended

to submit to her husband as the church submits to Christ. Yeah. That seems exactly where I thought she would teach. And then on the job application, it also has them explain their view of, quote, the creation evolution debate. Ha.

This would be so easy to get a job here. Right. Like, if you were smart enough, like, yeah, dude, I mean. Oh my God. Fuck, dude, God came down and blessed the fucking earth with Adam and Eve. Right. And the rest is history.

You know what probably is hard is like there's so much like in-group jargon with those folks that you'd have to like, you'd have to bone up a little bit. Yeah, you would. You would have to spend some time like going to meetings or something, Bible studies. Oh man, I went to Lutheran and Catholic school.

I know all the buzzwords. I could sing. I could jump in on a hymn with them. Yeah, I heard you. You said God and Adam and Eve. You know it all. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, were you there when they crucified my Lord?

That's a great track. That feels like some very Catholic guilt shit. Oh, yeah. I mean, all the lyrics are like, were you there? Then like, were you there when they put him in the tomb and put him on the cross? Yeah. Catholics like sort of feel bad about that shit,

whereas a lot of the Southern Baptist religions are just like, we know who did that shit to Jesus. We all know. We all know. Right. It's like, if I'd been there, this crucifixion wouldn't have gone down. Yeah. Go watch The Passion of the Christ. We all know. We all know. Right. It's like if I'd been there, this crucifixion wouldn't have gone down. Yeah.

Go watch The Passion of the Christ. We all know what went down. They say at this school, too, in the parent church, it says women are only permitted to teach Scripture to children, teenagers, and other women. And they have health classes in fifth grade, which has a, quote, distinctly biblical perspective. in fifth grade, which has a, quote, distinctly biblical perspective. And then they also, like, read this book called The Secret Keeper, The Delicate Power of Modesty for the women in class, the young girls at the school. Wait, so what is excluded from that list of people women are allowed to, just grown men? I think so.

They can't speak to grown men about the Bible? No, men have to talk to men, man. Right. I guess. I don't know. That men about the Bible. No, men have to talk to men, man. Right. I guess. I don't know. That's kind of confusing to me, too. A man can talk to women if they want, but the woman can't initiate it and act like she knows something about the Bible that they don't.

Right. They're like, oh, I'm sorry. What are you going to tell me about the Bible? Right. I know every word. Just tell me a page, and I'll recite it from memory. I'm sorry. Is God a woman?

No. He's a man. God is a woman. So don't talk to him. God is a black woman, and we all know that. We do. What is she doing there at the school? What is old mother? She taught there for 12 years when he

was in Congress. So that was her old job and she's just like, I have to get back. But anyway, in this book, The Secret Keeper, there's a sentence that says, the source of power is modesty. Modesty? A source of great power? Yes, modesty is the source of this delicate yet formidable power, making it a power in and of itself.

It's delicate because it can be so innocently given away without your even knowing it. It's formidable or difficult to deal with or control because once you've mastered it, no man will be given access to the full secrets behind your allure until you so desire. Yeah. And then there's like a weird thing about flapper dresses. Oh, for real? It's like for the first time, dresses were short, and women were showing arm. Was it sexual?

You bet. Flappers, quote unquote, were known to drink a lot and treat sex casually, often attending necking parties. So there's just like, it's all this wild misinformation in there. And you know what she teaches? You know what she teaches there? Art. Oh, okay.

Oh, so the beauty. With a focus on the work of george o'keefe yeah no so yeah those kids they're just yeah they're getting learnt up oh my god who writes anti-flat that's an anti-flapper propaganda yeah yeah also that uh that sentence is like it would be awesome it It's like logic, like so circular. Because they just keep repeating the same premise and conclusion over and over again. It's amazing. Silent, being quiet, and modest is a superpower.

This is actually, in Snow White, like Disney's first Disney princess, that is the main message. She keeps getting bailed out when she's asleep or passed out and looking pretty. People see her when she looks pretty, but if she's making decisions or doing anything, showing any agency, she fucks it up and almost kills herself. Go back to sleep, witch.

Right. Snow White is alt-right. It's just fucking sad, though. You know what I mean? This is the fucking wife of the, what is it called? The second lady? What's the term for that? The second mommy.

The second mother is at a school that has such fucking backwards, violent rhetoric towards LGBTQ people. And then, like, this is just kind of like, okay, and that's fine. Let's not, you know, we're not there yet, but that's not there yet. I guess that's really the, sadly, we're just not there yet. We're like, this is okay. I mean, but we've always known from the top, from the beginning that Mike Pence is just, his whole shit is based on like erasing.

I mean, that's where we're at also. It's just like, this is, this is the like alternative. This is like, oh, once we get that hate monger Trump out of office, this is what we got in store for us. Yeah, old necking parties. All right. Like I was saying, we do need to get to important stories. Sure, sure, sure. The world has been introduced to Dick Run Claire.

She's a woman who draws dicks on the largest scale possible with her run paths, her running paths. These vary from, you know, kind of curvy dicks to three fingered hands holding dicks. But they're. Yeah. The one that looks like someone is masturbating. Yeah. That one's pretty good. You know, look.

Combining fitness and art. It looks like a simpsons character is masturbating because they only have three fingers yeah or no ninja turtle okay yeah simpsons have four yeah but the producer anahosnia brought this to our attention right before we started recording and i just you know it's breaking news yeah because there was like i feel like there was another one oh years ago there's like a guy who would like like write out i love you to his wife or something. Yeah, yeah.

We've seen like versions of this where people are using like those Nike wax. And that was whack as fuck. Yeah. But this is cool. No, I'm just kidding. No, I'm serious. I mean, look, more weird. One looks like, what's that?

Gooey duck. Right. Yeah, there's varied shapes and forms. But she claims that through years of experience, she has now been able to, like when she's mapping out her run, she can like spot a penis in like the shape of streets and be like, oh, that's perfect. Oh, so she's seeing the dick matrix.

I can carve a dick out of that thing. No problem. Also, the good, like does she have to do ways or she just knows like, because some of these are pretty elaborate that she'd be like okay left here. There are apps like I think she's using the Nike running app and that like ingests pretty

detailed maps from around the world. So you can just carve out what you're going to be. Yeah you can figure out what you're going to do. And I might start running. But you can also be checking as you go. Nah I don't have time man I'm out here trying to run these dicks. I thought she would have to run really far to carve out a dick. Yeah, some of these are.

Yeah, some of them are just like a mile or so. I bet I could carve out some dicks. They look much larger than a mile, yeah. Yeah. I'm going to try this, actually. Okay. On my running path. This dick looks kind of like Florida, too.

Right. Yeah, that's true. It has a panhandle, for sure. That is one of the weirdest things about nature is how many things look like dicks just all over the place. And a lot of the stuff that looks like dicks are things that man has sort of genetically modified like corn on the cob. When we first got corn, it was just like two kernels at the end of like a long stem.

But then man like genetically modified it to look like a giant dick with corn all over it. Wow. So that's man doing that. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of these look like Oklahoma too.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I guess you can start just calling the panhandle like the cock shaft. Yes. The Oklahoma cock shaft. Yeah. Oklahoma would be a very strangely shaped cock. Yeah.

That would be like, there would be some kind of gigantism or something happening, the scrotum. Yes. But anyway, we're not doctors. How many followers does Dick Ronclair have? She needs more. I think if she doesn't. All right, that's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

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