The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 62 (Best of 2/11/19-2/15/19)

Episode Date: February 17, 2019

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favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh infotainment laugh stravaganza. Uh, yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as a person? Well, this is a wormhole. I went down. I had to take a picture because I couldn't remember the title, but I clicked on it and then I couldn't stop.

It said, gut doctor, I bet Americans to throw out this vegetable. And I clicked on it. I bet Americans. I beg, sorry. Oh, I beg Americans. Oh, it's like a quote from a gut doctor. Yeah. Got it.

And I was like, what vegetable? Oh, no. Because I eat a lot of vegetables. Okay. And I was like, what am i eating that's like ruining my gut you know when you click on these things and then 20 minutes later i still didn't discover it because it was like watch this guy's 40 minute video on gut rot and then like you know how you just get sucked in and you keep clicking and you can never get to the information like

where's my free ipod yeah i was like oh god it's three o'clock i started this at 9 a.m is it celery or you never found out i never okay oh so you googled to be like what's the fucking i just i just kept going and then really it was like 20 it was it was one of these things where then i think at one point i got it to like then a dollar 99 you know click it was just yeah and so then i just started guessing. Right. Was that clickbait like at the bottom of like another article? Like one of those things off to the side.

Yeah, it was one of those things where you're like. When it's like even doctors are concerned about Aaron Trump's IQ. What? Yeah, yeah. Even doctors. It's like these genes make you look. You're like, what? You're like, okay.

Yeah. Yeah, it was one of those things. It's always a shameful things, but, uh, it's always a shameful experience, but you, sometimes you just have to click on them. They're like, well, they got me.

Yeah. No, no, they, he, he, this guy definitely got me. It'll be like a person who's like,

had like clearly Photoshopped face. And they're like, you'll never guess what celebrity went overboard with plastic surgery. And then you go and it's like, okay, like Muriel Hemingway? Right. What?

Yeah. I just have like a bad stomach and I'm always trying like new things. So I was like, what do you mean? All vegetables are perfect. Isn't that troubling that Google knows you have a bad stomach? Of course it does. Yeah. Because every time when my computer's off, I go, I have a bad stomach. And then I turn it back on and it's like,

do you have a bad stomach? We're just going to guess here. We're going to throw something out. You can tell us if we're wrong. And so is the teacher union striking across in these United States. This time it is in Denver. The teachers there are on strike because they want to be paid

a reasonable wage yeah 70 000 teachers on strike or 71 000 uh because it took 15 months of negotiating with the school district and they got fucking nowhere right and the whole this is kind of a unique situation because it's not the usual like I mean, it is overpay. But the pay structure in Denver is really kind of confusing because they use these like bonuses that are like incentivized. But they're inconsistent and teachers themselves won't even know when they hit because like sometimes they're like, I made four thousand dollars more last year because this like weird growth bonus hit. I didn't know when it was coming. So their whole thing is like, yo, get rid of the bonuses, use that money that you were going to use to give bonuses and just increase our base pay. Yes. Because we cannot financially plan when I'm rolling the dice all the time for these inconsistent bonuses. So, I mean, this seems like a very, very easy thing to resolve because,

you know, the money's there, just taking it away from these bonuses that you think are working and put them into base pay. But they are at a standstill, and the governor doesn't really want to get involved yet. I think he was saying, I think they can resolve this on their own. But as I always say, give teachers what the fuck they want, because they are helping fucking educate people.

Yes. And they are the first line of defense against ignorance most of the time. Man, teachers must, yeah, teachers really don't make a lot. I think because I remember every elementary school teacher I ever had would mention how much

they do not make money in class. Oh yeah, all the time. That's the thing they would always talk about. They're like, well, I bought you all pencils, but remember, I'm just a teacher. Right. I remember, oh,

I had to buy these myself. My walking cane broke. Yeah. It's like, isn't that a broomstick with a ruler? I couldn't afford a real one. I had to make it. I'm 32. But I remember, yo, the first time I saw, I realized my teacher had two jobs. I saw her at Macy's.

Oh, my gosh. Or it was the May Company back, or no, it was Robinson's May. Robinson's May, yes. She was working the beauty counter and I walked through and I saw her spraying perfume and I was like, Mrs. Hecox? And she was like, oh, hi.

And I was shook. Oh my God. Because, you know, when you're eight, nine years old, you just think you have one job. Yeah. And then you don't realize that their teachers

were getting paid fuck all. And then afterwards, like all the other kids like, oh yeah, like I've seen her there too. she was explaining she's like yo uh they're not paying me enough here so i get down at the beauty counter and yeah and like a lot of so many teachers are uber drivers too i've met so many uber drivers who are also teachers right so just my god don't make it already hard for these people to take care of your children and educate them. Also, your kids are shitty.

Kids are mean. Yeah, I was shitty. You've got to pay kids more to – or pay teachers more. If I get those millions of dollars, there are a few teachers I'm going to have to break off with a check or two. Thank you for not throwing – For putting up with me. For trying to get me expelled. Right. Yeah.

I mean, this payment method is really diabolical because it's taking sort of the psychology of American capitalism the way some people make it big. Even if it's 1% of the population, those people get super rich. And so we see them and we assume, oh, we can get there too. So by putting some of the money in bonuses that are kind of given out randomly, you are basically messing with people mentally. And it's good that like the only way to fight something like that is by organizing collectively and having a big enough power to, you know, back you up. Yeah. And they see that 1% and you're like, oh, what you don't realize is that a lot of that success has been predetermined by, you know, societal structures.

But again, we can act like it's a fairytale story. That is why we cover that up as vigorously as possible in our mass media. The role that parents and inherited wealth have to play in American success. All right. Let's talk about the Green New Deal. Speaking of the left. All right, let's talk about the Green New Deal, speaking of the left. So AOC and Ed Markey unveiled their Green New Deal plan,

and it's got some really lofty, some people are saying unrealistic, goals for the next 10 years. But the rollout was a bit of a mess, and I don't know, it might have opened them up to some criticism that might be unwarranted given what is actually in the plan right now. Yeah, well, there's some people who are getting really microscopic about picking it apart. sound or at least based in science is about the fact that the Green New Deal doesn't really address one of the major problems for greenhouse emissions or carbon emissions is sprawl. Because like America is built so spread out, it means a lot of people travel many miles every day to get just to get to work. And the way that our cities are planned, like they're only exacerbating those problems.

So even if there was, you know, like the thing about saying like, well, we should get to like California should be 100 percent electric vehicles. OK, that's one dimension. But to address sprawl, there are a few people who are like that would really be a way to tackle many different things. Because right now, like it is a good jobs bill. I mean, it would put people to work. Many different things. Because right now, like, it is a good jobs bill. I mean, it would put people to work.

But the issues that it's really trying to tackle, they say a lot are sort of born out of the idea that everything's so spread apart. So you could address the housing crisis and emissions if you use money to create a little bit better planned, like, more housing dense areas near job centers. Because right now, a lot of people have to commute a long time, especially if you are lower income or a person of color. The distance you travel for jobs, you see articles about like, this man walked 40 miles a day to his job, and then the guy gave him a car. And it's like, that's exactly what we're talking about. There's people who have to, that's how they survive. Let's try and figure out a way to actually make people's living situations less dependent

on traveling those long miles. No, rich people are going to take care of that. They're just way to actually make people's living situations less dependent on traveling those long miles. Now, rich people are going to take care of that. They're just going to keep giving people cars. I think we can feel like. Yeah, but electric cars now. Yeah, yeah. Look at that. Come on, rich people.

That should be the plan. But that's the thing. Like, that's a – we're not even – even if we had it right now, like, technology isn't fully there to be like, yeah, boom, electric cars. Everything's 100% electric cars right now. I mean, so this is at the very least we're moving in a direction where it is actually trying to give guidance on how we are going to address climate change in an actual feasible way. But this is a thing. It's a living thing. It's always evolving.

There's also this FAQ that was put out by AOC's camp, but not necessarily her, with her blessing on the day of the release that seems to be working off some assumptions that aren't actually in the proposal, like that they're going to put stricter contingencies on dairy farmers and paying people who don't want to work to work and commitment not to go nuclear. And so a lot of the criticisms are about things that aren't actually in the bill. They're in this FAQ that just wasn't handled correctly. It was put out and it's probably an earlier version of it that doesn't actually reflect like the most up-to-date version of what they were proposing. And a lot, like if you Google green new deal, like a lot of the coverage in the past couple of days has been about like why

they really bungled this rollout. It's like that horse race politics shit where they just cover politics as if it's theater. And it's just like, here they should have presented this better sports game yeah somebody was saying people are trying to take the focus away from the big picture and focus on these little typos and i can understand how that is frustrating the economist kind of gave a more thorough uh critique of bill, basically saying that it, you know, in addition to

taking on climate change, it also like throws out big goals about, you know, jobs and universal basic income. And it's basically tear down American society and build it back up from the ground up is what you could interpret this as taking. But a quote that kind of helped me put what this would require into perspective was a guy named Ken Caldera, who's an atmospheric researcher at Carnegie Institution for Science. And he was saying, in my own subjective assessment, getting to near zero emissions over the next decade would be physically possible but socio-politically infeasible then he said during world war ii up to 60 percent of the national gdp was directed toward the war effort if we were to mobilize around the climate problem the way we mobilized around the fight against germany and japan then we could possibly do this so like how about this uh this is a way greater threat to Germany and Japan. Right. Yeah, exactly.

But that's the sort of change that you would need to see. And a lot of, there was a article in slate just sort of pointing to the fact that there's like this Berkeley BART station where they built up like the parking garage is like, you know, next level environmentally friendly with like, you know,

has like rainwater capture and water treatment features and rooftop solar. And the thing costs like nearly $40 million to build. My God. And they're sort of pointing to this as like, this is the kind of solution people just do is like, well, let's just pour money into this thing to make that better when there are actually like fundamentally greater issues. And it's not that the parking structure needs to be more environmentally friendly. Like we have to rethink the parking structure needs to be more environmentally friendly. Like we have to rethink the way this shit is even laid out.

Sure. Here's something dairy farmers can do. We just got to get like a bunch of corks and plug up those cow butts because it's cow farts, right? It's really ruining everything here. That methane from the cow farts. Just like Ali G said when he interviewed Ralph Nader that one time. I think he posed the question to Ralph Nader about, well, what about these cows? And he's like, well, I don't know how you could solve that

unless you hooked a box up to a cow's asshole. Like so deadpan when he said it's a great moment. Yeah. It's at least interesting. Some people are pointing to it as like maybe being a Overton window mover, like changing the conversation at least so that people are now thinking about the problem of climate change in terms of changing the entire system rather than building a bunch of parking structures. So from that perspective, it could be seen as a win for the left. And I think, you know, at the end of of the day this don't get so myopic in how you're looking at this thing right now like literally this is like one of the first real kind of plans to be like hey this shit's a problem yeah what can we do to fucking even try and look at this and see what like fix this yeah and i mean the economist's piece that was critical of it was

saying that you know there's still a chance for it to, you know, succeed, but that they think it should focus on climate change exclusively and not like put in all the stuff about universal basic income. Like Green New Deal, right? Right. So, yeah, we'll see how it evolves. We'll be keeping an eye on it. But most presidential candidates for the Democratic nomination have come out in support of it.

So it is going to be a, you know, it's not a non-factor regardless of what people are saying at the moment. Yeah. And then when you read that study that came out about the, well, I don't know if one is to do with the other, but all the insect decline, like the insect population is in decline. Oh, like the bees? There's more than just the bees we're losing? Yes. What else? Like all insects.

They're like decreasing every year. I hate bugs, but I know they're important. Right. Well, they say within a century, most insects could die off. Yeah. And that would be cataclysmic. Yikes. So it's not, we got a lot of problems.

Yeah. I wonder how much of it is house flies around my house. Fuck those things up. With your electric racket? Yeah. Miles, let's talk about double-header bread bowls. Oh, my. Yo, so Panera Bread has lost their damn minds.

They put out a double-barreled bread bowl soup fucking loaf nobody on Earth asked for. What it basically is is like a rustic loaf. They cut out two big circles in them, and it's like a dueling bread bowl that I guess they want it to be like if you're sharing a milkshake with somebody or like a sundae where you can both scoop out of it. I'm not even sure who this is for. I am absolutely their target demo. Would you? Now, okay. Oh, great.

Blair, are you going to eat that with someone else? Or you have a spoon in your right hand a spoon your left hand and you're just Alternating hands scooping out the bread bowl. Honestly, I can see both the scenarios happening Very easily. Yeah, I would love I am the person I'll sit on the same side as the at the restaurant Yeah, yeah, I love that I think it's cute i think that would be really fun to share i also love sharing food i'm italian i love to share i think that's gorgeous mangiare mi amici yeah you would never do that uh no i don't know it's just weird i've just never i've never had a bread bowl and been like damn you know what i wish i could have a double barrel bread bowl to share

with my friend i feel like bread bowls and maybe i'm wrong but I feel like bread bowls, and maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like bread bowls are one of the most universally loved things. I love a bread bowl. I'm like, yo, I think the bread bowl was peak bread bowl to me. And now we're jumping the shark. You think they're taking it too far. When they try to mix chocolate with bacon

and you're like, they're both perfect separate entities. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, I don't mind chocolate bacon. I don't have a problem with this either. I don't have a problem with it. I'm just sort of like, they're both perfect separate entities. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, I don't mind chocolate bacon. I don't have a problem with this either. I don't have a problem with it. I'm just sort of like, I don't see how this is going to take off, though. You know, I don't see where this is actually filling like a void in a market where people are like, oh, thank, okay, great.

I'm getting this. Miles, it's a normal indulgence innovation. Find a new slant. Maybe it's a stunt like the McRib. You saw how that took off. Yeah. That's true. Well, I think, you know, they're dropping it around Valentine's Day, so they want to

be like, yo, split a bowl of broccoli cheese soup on one side. Oh, that's what I can do. I know where I'm going tomorrow. Yeah, it looked like the biggest fucking asshole. What'd you get, babe? Oh, close your eyes, my dude. Oh, my God. I'd take her to a Panera with her blindfold.

Satin blindfold. Would she like that? What is she like? Oh, I don't know. Your wife, yeah. She would be like, I'm taking the kids. Fuck out of here. We're moving to Pittsburgh.

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topic. Yum. Yeah. Why are we talking about measles? I thought we declared it eliminated in 2000. Is this stuff you missed in history class? Yeah. No, because there is a outbreak of measles in the Pacific Northwest in a community that has one of the lowest rates of vaccination. I think 78% is the vaccination rate there versus like 90%. That is not enough for

herd immunity. And the reason that so few people are being vaccinated there is not because it's like a, you know, poor place or like, you know, they don't have the funding. It is a place where parents tend to have beliefs about like vaccination choice is like how they're terming it. And it's basically this whole anti-vaxxer campaign that started with a 1980s study funded by a British doctor that has since been retracted, but it was published in like a respected paper. It was a British Journal of Medicine or something like that. Right.

I think it's called the Lancet or something like that. But they've since retracted it, and it also didn't say that these vaccinations caused autism. It just associated one type of vaccination with a stomach problem that coincided with autism in some cases. And this doctor realized he could make tons and tons of money by gassing parents up who have children with autism. And he was also, I think, connected to a vaccine, an alternative vaccine to MMR vaccines that he would have profited off of by tearing that one down. Yeah, because I think it's in Clark County, Washington.

But yeah, they have like laws where you can just basically say, oh, I'm not vaccinating for non-religious personal philosophical beliefs. But in addition to this guy's paper that kind of fucked the country over, it has also been exacerbated, this anti-vaxxer movement, by the internet. And specifically, Russia and the internet research agency is specifically focused on trying to get anti-vaxxer messaging out there because they just want to see the United States burn. Yeah, well, it's a good wedge issue. They love wedge issues. And this has been a thing that slowly has gained traction because the scientifically illiterate are just listening to hot takes or infographics they see that they're saying, oh, this equals this. And they would love to see nothing more than a once eradicated disease begin to spread in the United States again. Not that this is all because of Russia, but it's just another element that Russia has

identified as like a weak point in American society of being like, oh, wow, some of these people don't believe science. OK, let's let's let's fuck with that a little bit. Yeah. Some of these people don't believe science. Okay, let's fuck with that a little bit. Yeah, and you don't have to be stupid to believe this stuff because there is so much data and information out there for both sides. That's the thing that they've done is they've both sidesed it. So they will put out studies that are saying that vaccines do cause autism.

And now they'll be like, but there's other people who claim they don't. And we're open to both sides. When I just put vaccine into YouTube, the top video is pro-vaccine versus anti-vaccine. Should your kids get vaccinated? That's not even a question. Right. Yeah. And it's two groups of parents arguing back and forth.

And it doesn't come down on one side or the other. It's like, you know, well, that's your opinion, but here's our opinion. And like, these are two okay sides of a like reasonable debate. Just like that Jaboukie tweet. He's like, if my child dies because I didn't want to vaccinate it, that's my opinion. Right. Exactly. You know what I mean? And that's the, that's what's dangerous is because there's so much information out there misinformation it keeps people off level footing about what the science is when a lot of the websites too when you look at like facebook to those the groups where parents like where a lot of anti-vaxxers gather they're just disseminating like junk science yes and there's never anything that is from a real yeah reputable medical source and i think because of that one study was that's one that's

like sort of the origin myth that they hang on to despite repeated things be like yo this guy is a quack we have we had to kick him the fuck out right this is not real uh this was a dangerous thing and it caused this this uh this little bit of uh uncertainty among people that allowed this kind of thinking to proliferate and i think when when you look at, you know, the numbers, right? Measles on a continuum is much more dangerous than vaccines are if you contract the measles versus like the possibility of some kind of vaccine injury. And I think they point to these small cases

because millions of people get vaccinated. And you can point because of the size of the group, you're like, well, look at all these injuries. Or perceived injuries. Yeah, that's like Scientology, like claims they have like millions of people in their congregation when they actually only have like 200,000. Right. Right. Like go like totally lie about all the numbers. It's scary about vaccination. Like I'm from Orange County. And when I go back there, you look at this as like something that's a total common sense issue and like I said something

like I was like at a party and a lot of my brothers who are a little older than me like everyone has babies and I was like dude who would not vaccinate a kid like that's the worst thing you could ever do how could you not know that and my brother was like Blair dude, who would not vaccinate a kid? Like, that's the worst thing you could ever do. How could you not know that? And my brother was like, Blair, there's, like, plenty of here. There's, like, people here that don't vaccinate their kids. And I was like, how is that even possible? And now people do it on the low, too.

Like, there's actually, like, to think, like, people I know that aren't, like, vaccinating their kids in Orange County. Like, that's not like a. Well, it's just like I think, you know, a lot of people, because, again, there are a lot of scary examples that that just speak to the fear in people that allows people to be like, right. It's the it's the perceived potential for harm. That is an important thing that I didn't really realize until I started doing research on this, that there are cases where getting a vaccine, it's like one in 2,000 times a kid will have a negative reaction to a vaccine. They won't have autism or something like that, but they'll have some negative reaction. And so the absolute 100% safest way to go about things for your kid is have everybody else be vaccinated and your kid doesn't get vaccinated because they're missing out on that one out of 2,000 chance that they have a negative reaction.

And everybody else is vaccinated, so you don't need to. But that is the most selfish fucking thing you can do because then that doesn't work. If everybody does that. Yeah. There've been people posting like, uh, like secretly pulling posts from Facebook of parents who are anti-vaxxers who have been like, have basically ended up getting sick or their kids are.

And there's a lot of people like it's, it almost seems common sense. They're like, ah, like I didn't vaccinate my child. And now we've both have like pertussis. Right. It's like,

I feel so guilty. What do I do? It's like, well well you missed your opportunity to do something about it but again it's just a really weird thing to me because it really takes this distrust of science for you to have to take this first step into being like no i'm fucking with this right i feel like a lot of those people are just a little nutty too i'm sorry like they don't like don't believe in climate change or just like wacky shit. That's like, but they are the type of people who will believe in climate change, but they won't.

It's, it's a weird, because it's a lot of like people to, to the very far left who don't vaccinate and very far to the right. But there's also people on the far left who are like, who are like, you know, I believe in alternative medicine and I,

you know, like the sorts of people who you encounter in like Venice or Santa Monica when I lived there. And I had the same issue where I was like talking about anti-vaxxers being crazy. And then this mom was like, well, I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but I do believe that we should be able to space the vaccinations out, which is like anti-vaxxer light. But it's still like, because we don't know what doing them, bundling them all together does. There's like a doctor who

is in the Southern California area who specializes in teaching people how to do safe vaccines because he knows that there's this fear out there. And so, yeah, it's like anti-vaxxer. I hate that. It's so sad and bums me out about humanity to think of so many people in the medical profession profiting off of people's fear, concerns, and health. It's so sad. I mean, it can be very confusing.

There's a lot of information out there. If you can watch a video about vaccination, and it'll be like scientists from Johns Hopkins University Medical School. And first of all, the video that I found is of them describing it is they're not good at communicating their message. It's like reading a scientific paper. But they're talking about this study on vaccination. The comments are full

of people being like, how dare you? You've sold your soul for profit and stuff like that. And then one of the up next videos is the anti-vaxxers versus people who believe in vaccines videos. But it can be very confusing. There's all the both sides-ism. But here's just an easy test, guys. If the Internet Research Agency from Russia is backing your side, is lying to people, is seeding the Internet with your point of view, you need to take a deeper look at your point of view. It's probably not good for the country.

Russian spies have been like, oh, here's a way to fuck with somebody. Like we're going to take someone's uneven footing on something that most people agree has some kind of factual basis and we're going to exploit it. Right. So yeah, good rule of thumb. Let's talk about something like anti-Semitism.

Oh, okay. Wow. Accusations thereof. From anti-vaxxers to anti-Semitism. Yeah. Semitisms. Anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism.

So there's been a controversy with Representative Ilhan Omar basically being taken to task over a tweet where her language seemed to call to mind some standard anti-Semitic tropes when she said that the politicians' support for Israel is all about the Benjamins. And that kind of ties in with a longstanding anti-Semitic trope about Zionist money controlling government. Yeah. Yeah. She's talking about AIPAC. Right. She's talking about AIPAC. trope about like zionist money zionist money controlling government yeah and yeah she's talking about apac right she's talking about apac and the american israel public affairs committee right and they are a very powerful lobbying group somebody was like uh i'd like to see who you think is paying these politicians uh and she was like oh apac like she just straight up was like this is who i believe but this is a thing that is being like Jeremy Corbyn has been attacked for being anti-Semitic.

He's the Labour Party leader who won a surprising election in England last year. And then because AOC talked to Jeremy Corbyn and had like a public forum conversation with him. She's being like asked about like whether she should be doing that and whether she is anti-Semitic. So it's a way that people on the right are attacking people on the left. And center left too. Yeah. And people on the center left are also attacking people on the left. Well, because this whole thing is around conflating criticism of Israel's policies with being hatred towards Jewish people. Right. And that's not the case.

When you're talking about the actions of Israel and the apartheid there and the blockade in Gaza and all this other things, the settlements, just those policies that are costing people their lives, it's a criticism of those policies, not, oh, all Jews are this or things, the settlements, just those policies that are costing people their lives, it's a criticism of those policies, not, oh, all Jews are this or that, some kind of weird problematic stereotype. Right. And I think a lot of people don't realize that AIPAC was born out of a need to begin to spin the actions of Israel in the United States, because in the small town of Kibia, there was a massacre that occurred where Israeli soldiers, there was a very disproportionate, what some people describe as a casual mass

murder in response to an Israeli woman and child being killed by a Palestinian. And they realized that the outcry in the United States was like, what is going on here? We're supporting this. A few people were like, I think we need to figure out a way to begin to create a united front in the United States and connecting American Jews to support the actions of Israel and to kind of basically inoculate the United States people to sort of not have a negative look at its most far right. Like it is being controlled by its equivalent of the Trump administration or, you know, the George W. Bush administration. It is like, has been controlled and is being controlled by the like furthest right. So that's why you see a lot of people on the right now taking up this idea of, well, if you criticize them, you're anti-Semitic because then, you know, that allows them and their ally to get away with enforcing some very, very conservative and

warlike policies. Well, I think that's why, like, when you look at this, right, younger people look at the whole issue a little more holistically. Right. Because support for Israel for young people is, I think, an economist poll from 2018. It found people 18 to 29, only about a quarter of respondents considered Israel even an ally. And when you go from there too, like you said, the current government with Netanyahu, it runs in conflict with American Jews who tend to be very liberal and secular. So there's also already, like even Jews, they said there was another poll about American Jews who tend to be very liberal and secular. So there's also already like even Jews, they said there was a,

another poll about American Jews who are voting. I think only about 4% said that that factors into who they vote for. Right. So there's a, we're starting to see, I mean, look, Ilhan Omar caught a lot of heat and the,

all about the Benjamin's thing. This, this, right. Like you're, you're opening yourself up to somebody to be able to mischaracterize what you're trying to say. I think that could have been described a little bit better.

But what this has done, though, it's brought AIPAC in the idea of we're now having to have a conversation of, is there a way to actually, in an open-eyed, open-hearted way, begin to discuss the actions of Israel in a way that isn't immediately going to be spun into anti-Semitism? Right. Yeah. And I mean, there has to be. I think it's a reasonable objection to be like, look, we don't want Israel or the Israeli people or Jewish people to be accused of having some secret conspiracy where they control the media. We don't want it to be made into... You have to be able to acknowledge that there's money involved and that lobbying exists, but to just blindly be like, well, we know what it's really motivated by can be a little bit.

You just can't be glib when talking about Israel and Israel's motivation. You have to be detailed and specific. And again, Trump was like, and Pence was like, oh, she should resign. And Pence was like, well, she should be taken off the Foreign Affairs Committee or whatever. And she clapped back. She was like, I'm sorry, President Trump. You deal in all kinds of racist bigotry all the time. You even say shit about

Jewish people that it could be seen as dealing with anti-Semitic, deeply anti-Semitic tropes. He has been associated with very... He's literally only anti-hate when it serves his agenda. Yeah, and he is, like, on the flip side of that, he is unwilling to dissociate himself with, like, legitimate anti-Semites

who think Jewish people should be killed. Like, that's a big chunk of his supporters. Hey, good people on both sides. Right, exactly. So their anti-Semitism is a real thing. It's an incredibly dangerous thing. It exists around the world. But using it as like a way to push back criticism of aggressively conservative and violent policies by the Israeli state is probably, that's not good for Jewish

people in general. And it's not good for, you know, the way that we have this conversation. I'm curious for the people who are immediately jumped to the conclusion that criticism of Israel's anti-Semitic, is there anything that they can honestly say, concede a point that is a real criticism of their policy. Right. Would those people ever say anything? Because I don't think a lot of politicians who immediately jump to those conclusions can say things that would actually be like a, you know, like I said, an even handed criticism

of or objective analysis of the foreign policy. And with AIPAC, right, when they talk about the money, it's not that they're paying politicians to say, oh, you love Israel. Here's your money. Here's your little fee. It's about like any lobbying organization, like the NRA or fossil fuels. If you're out here talking spicy about their industry, they will put money into campaigns that are going to be against you. They will spend money against you. And if you're supportive, they will fund operations that will support you.

So it's not that the money moves and like, let me cut you a check for saying this. It's that the forces because of how lobbying works, that if you stick your head out of the trenches and have a hot take criticizing Israel, it's like, oh, well, you will notice very quickly that money will be poured into opponent or some kind of other campaign or opposition research to try and begin to destabilize your seat in office or whatever. So, you know, I think, again, these are the kinds of conversations that need to begin happening because I think in general, young people have a different view on what is happening in the region than much older conservatives do. Right. And even older people who are center left.

Yeah, exactly. And as we discussed, I think it's important to realize that you can't talk about AIPAC and Israel the same way you would talk about the NRA. You would want to be more careful and think about historic tropes because, like we said, anti-Semitism is a real thing. So you just have to be more specific and more kind of a cogent of all of the history that exists. Yeah. Right. Let's talk about Amazon. You guys,

Amazon bailed. They bailed HQ to peace out. It's out. Long Island city. Now you see what you did. You see New York. You do the nice thing and offer one of the biggest companies on earth, $3 billion giveaway in taxes and shit.

And then misread the room when locals are getting really upset about that. Yeah. So I was not able to fully catch up on this. How did, like, was it actually the protest? Did that shit actually work? Well, there was a united front of New York politicians who were like, this is fucked. And they were pushing back a lot. And I think Amazon at one point was sort of testing the line. Like, well, we could leave all you know you for that to happen.

And they were like, yeah, all right. Yeah. Then what? And then they're like, oh, fuck. Yeah. Like, this isn't going to end. And yes, I think a lot of people, especially activists who were opposed to Amazon coming through and wrecking the city, this is definitely a victory for them. Because, I mean, going up against a multinational gigantic behemoth like Amazon, you're like, you'd think it's a foregone conclusion.

Yeah. At the same time, the way it's being covered by the politicos of the world is Amazon to New York, drop dead. That's the headline on the front page of Politico. So it's like Amazon screws New York is how it's being read in a lot of the mainstream media. Dumped New York before they could get dumped. Right. What a fortnight for Jeff Bezos. I know. Yeah, exactly.

What a time. Right. What a time to be Jeff Bezos. I mean, you think, right, I don't understand still why it ended up in New York. When, again, the whole thing was a little weird when it was like, what city is going to beg us the hardest for us to come here to save their dying town, only to go to New York, a city that is not in the process of deteriorating? There are many other cities that could have actually benefited from it.

Right. You would think that if their plan was to bend the city over a barrel and just fuck them for all the money that they possibly could, that they would have chosen somebody with less of a strong bargaining position than New York City. Yeah, and citizens who are very aware of the effect of it. That's what I was gathering from third-hand pundits on Twitter

was that because it was the whole bidding process was I mean, like all fake-ass bidding wars was just meant to drive up the, you know, give them leverage like invent leverage essentially. Of like, what concessions

are you willing to make because obviously no fucking person who is like has any power or money at amazon wants to live anywhere besides one of four cities in the united states it's not like they're gonna hold like open this place in wichita or whatever that's why it's hq2 and not main hq right god the lesser people work there i don't know what I don't know but even then right like yeah like it's like they're they're never gonna go to like a you know some right wing tax haven

or whatever despite you know because it's like no one fucking wants to live in those like backwards ass places so it's always gonna be someplace like New York right so they had to pretend like oh we might not bring it to New York right well I mean look Bezos could have been the fucking king of New York if he had been they had to pretend like, oh, we might not bring it to New York. Right. Well, I mean,

look, Bezos could have been the fucking king of New York if he had been like, I don't need $3 billion from y'all. I'll do this anyway. And guess what? I'll bless the MTA. Yeah. Like some shit and fix your subway,

something like that. Like, and then get people more on board, but instead coming in and be like, give me this, give me that, give me that. Oh, I might make your housing market even more.

Yeah. Impossible. Yeah. You don't weird. It's almost like tech people are just people that had one kind of good idea at a time when the barrier for that was very low, but actually they're just as short-sighted as any other type of business person. Weird. Yeah. You don't become a billionaire by having empathy for large groups of people and deciding to do right by society. You become a billionaire by finding a huge imbalance and exploiting the shit out of it over and over and over again until you have all the money. And that's what he was trying to create with this whole process. And once he had

it, people were like, that doesn't seem okay. And he was like, fine, then. I'm taking my ball and going home. And I'm sure the rich are going to be like, this is just like Atlas Shrugged, dude. This is like, you fuck with us. You don't let us do whatever we want. And we're going to take our ball and go home. And now we'll see how screwed you are. By the way, it's like, please, billionaires, fuck off to your gulch. Yeah. I would love to see you all leave and leave your money behind, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, who cares? That group of millionaires and billionaires are like, please take taxes. Right. Because we know you'll probably come for us with your pitchforks in like 40 years. So please tax us. The top marginal rate of taxes is not going to the guillotine payment. That's what it's for. Well, you know, chin up, Bezos.

Hopefully he'll recover from this one. But yeah, AOC is now calling for the abolition of billionaires which seems like a good i mean we gotta draw a line somewhere why not make it a billion yeah it seems like too much yeah i think i think billions too much i'm gonna be honest 900 millions too much i think uh now but now we're negotiating yeah Yeah, here we go. All right, now you're at the table. And now you got me to come to the table. All right, we're going to take a quick break.

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This is, guys. Newsweek, it's time to take a look at yourselves. On Twitter, Reddit, this just headline went viral because when you clipped it out, it was just saying, Snake bites man, man bites wife, so they can die together. Wife survives. So, Miles, you read that out loud. Just off the fucking headline, I'm questioning the science and the feasibility of a scenario in which, I guess if you love the transitive property, I'm bit by snake, I am snake, I bite you, you are snake, and die. Zombie movie logic or the transitive property.

But this article goes on. Let me just read the – because it's quick and it's absurd. It says, a man in India who was attacked by a poisonous snake bit his wife's wrist because his final wish was for them to die together shankar rai was asleep in his home uh around 60 miles north blah blah blah he was attacked by a serpent by the morning his condition had worsened fearing he did not have much time left he held his wife's hand and said he wanted them to be united in death he sunk his teeth into a wrist so the venom would kill them both, and they fell unconscious, India Today reported. Witnesses described how doctors arrived and

rushed him to the hospital, although the venom claimed the life of Rai, his wife, was rescued in time. Rescued from what? His fucking dirty ass teeth? Right. And the bacteria on his fucking front teeth? But that's the thing, Newsweek does not even question that. They just

accept the logic of this India Today story. They're just like, okay. Also. I guess snake bites are passed on by bite. Also. By human bite. Newsweek had no link to the original article, so I had to Google that shit. This article is from 2017.

Yes. And they just published this shit. This is like 50 different blog spams since rolled up in one. And there's like literal word for word verbatim plagiarism happening in this Newsweek write-up too. I don't know what happened. Who's the author of the Newsweek? Brendan Cole. Brendan Cole.

Brendan Cole, bro, we caught you cheating on your homework. Or maybe you're just an algorithm because these fucking news sites don't hire humans anymore. And they're just like, let's just recycle. It's the robot that calls the news. Yeah. Right. I just,

I don't, I'm hoping there's maybe a magical snake that gives you venomous saliva or something. Because even in the article, when they go, they turn in the article to start talking about snakes. I'm like, okay,

maybe here's the part where they explain how this is possible. They just go like, the World Health Organization says like a majority of venomous snakes live in Southeast Asia. Oh, okay. Well, that explains it. What the fuck does that mean? I mean, I guess there's rabies, but nobody has ever thought that snake venom is passed on like rabies. I don't know.

It's just weird. Yeah. It's just weird. And I was really mesmerized by the hell. I don't know what. It's just weird. Yeah. It's just weird. And I was really mesmerized by the hell. I laughed. Yeah. Cause in my mind I was like, come on,

bro. You just, she didn't, she didn't die. Also even the line where it says he sunk his teeth into her wrist. So the venom would kill them and they fell unconscious. Right. Stated with no comment.

You know, all those videos where you see somebody in a street fight, bite someone on the wrist and and they're knocked out? Right. Yeah. What the fuck? I assume she was just being nice. This story is made up by India Today.

Well, they got it from Gulf News, so then I had to take it to the next level of the Inception dream. Right. And it was from a website called Gulf News under their India section. And again, that was even, like, you could tell even the India Today was ripping this article off. So this is clearly like viral marketing for scary stories to tell in the dark. Right. I guess. Something.

I don't. Andrew, I honestly think the logic of this story is too stupid for scary stories to tell in the dark. I honestly believe that. If this happened in a children's spooky story movie, people would be like, wait, what the fuck? But that's not how snake bites work. This wouldn't work in a Disney movie. Yeah. Even Frozen 2, which is dark.

Right. I think even a kid's general curiosity, they would probably flag this at first and be like, but how did the snake, how did the man become a venom mouth? Look, as somebody with kids, I found that offensive. Your impression of them. Yeah, well, kids are stupid,

bro. I'm sorry. I'm smarter than kids. But any kid is smarter than this dumbass algorithm. Seriously. Yeah. Should we try and find Brendan Cole on Twitter and just be like, my man, what are you doing? Hire reporters.

Zeit Gang, talk to Brendan Cole. Yeah. Find him on Twitter. Ask him, let's try and get comment from Brendan Cole about what he was thinking.

I'm sure he's going to be like, obviously we were doing it tongue in cheek, but nah, man. I also have not washed my hands in 10 years. Right. To add to that, Super Producer producer nick stuff the thing he likes is that somehow the timing of the bite was so perfect that the venom overcame

the the man who was the original bitee and then bit his wife in such a way that she passed out at the same time double knockout style right yeah. Like they bonked heads together and both get knocked out. Or the end of Rocky II. He bit her and they both immediately fell unconscious. And honestly- I bite you, you're going to bite the ground. Yeah, that's right. I don't want to jump-

There's going to be two bites. I don't want to jump to conclusions. And I'm hoping that there's some kind of reptilologist in the Zeitgang who goes, actually, there is a snake. Herpetologist, I think. Is that what it's called? A snake stud ears? Maybe that would be reptile.

Okay, great. Guys, I'm calling reptile dysfunction on this story. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Okay. I hate myself. And, yeah. Zeitgang, talk to this.

Wow. Latent bomb. The latent bomb. The latest latent bomb yet and deservedly so. I mean, just so you know, a past article this intrepid journalist has written was, Tattooist illegally split tongue removed nipple and ear. Okay. So now we're going to have to call all of his work into question.

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