The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 76 (Best of 5/20/19-5/24/19)

Episode Date: May 26, 2019

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you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah.

So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. What is something you think is overrated? Considering my heart's beating out of my chest right now, uh, cold brew. Oh, okay. I would definitely say some cold brew's a little overrated. Yeah. Um, the Nitro, which I tried.

Oh, yeah. You know, the Nitro version of it too and i was just like all right with but you know the tank was like out of o2 or something they're like can you wait a little bit to get your coffee we've got to change the o2 tank you know and i'm like i just need to drink regular coffee this is fucking science right i want coffee not like a mitsubishi eclipse from fast and furious we gotta throw another Nas tank on there real quick. You're like, how strong is this? They're like, we must keep it stable in a container, you know, a pressurized container.

You're like, cool, that's probably good for my colon. Explode and kill us all. So when you pour the nitro stuff, it like has those little bubbles. It looks like Guinness. And it tastes like Guinness, and I don't want that. Right. I just, you know. I don't want that. I just want the caffeine.

And even then. Yeah, everyone's like, oh, it just really smooths out the coffee. And I'm like, it wasn't a problem that existed with coffee prior to this. They used to have creamer for that to smooth out the coffee. And is there anything else? Does it have added caffeine, or it just smooths it out? No, the caffeine is higher in cold brew. Right.

No, in nitro, I mean. Oh, I'm the wrong person to ask what the nitro is. I think what happens is the nitro is right. The nitro makes it smoother, whereas just a regular cold brew is like the whole process is it's soaking in the water. The longer the beans are in contact with water, the more caffeinated it becomes. So people think espresso actually sends you over the edge, but actually espresso is lovely. It's concentrated, but the water only pushes through

really briefly. Right. Then you can have it and not be so shaky, but when you're drinking this like jug of caffeinated, you know. Oh, you drink a jug.

That's also the problem. Yeah. I know. I was like, oh, it's a little too early to be fighting shadow people. Yeah. I noticed that when you entered the office, you actually just walked through the door.

There's just a human-shaped hole in the door that I was pretty impressed. I was going to ask you. Let's talk about Grumpy Cat. Yes. True internet legend. Also was doing pretty well for him, herself. I think the cat's real name was Tattersauce or something. Tattersauce.

Tattersauce, but without like a R. I thought it was misspelled. Anyway. What a psycho. Monster. It is. She was a lady. Twas a lady.

Twas a lady. Lady cat. So grumpy cat. Twas a lady. Lady cat. So grumpy cat. Everybody knows about this cat. It was like one of the first, I don't know, like very recognizable meme-y image. And I'm not saying I don't know how to spell meme. I'm using meme as an adjective.

She called it meme-y. Or if I was Ja Rule, memes. Memes. I'll be a meme-y. Meme-y. Anyway, it was like, you know, everybody knows that bug-eyed cat with the cute underbite. And it apparently was making so much money.

I remember hearing about this years ago, like in 2013 or 14 was like peak fucking grumpy cat. Yeah. And allow me to introduce you to the financials of fucking grumpy cat. Sorry, I'm just in my mind doing a flashback to you in 2013 and you've got like all sorts of grumpy cat like all grumpy yeah i have like those weightlifting pants that are like really abstract patterns for all grumpy cat faces um so in 20 i think in 2013 and 14 was like peak grumpy cat fucking mania. Just to give you an idea. We know.

In those two years, this cat made $99.5 million from an array of products, including best-selling books and a film. Drop the fucking ball. What? Grumpy Cat made almost $100 million in two years. So, okay, let's just do some quick maths. Yeah. Let's divide that by two, and let's just assume they were all equal. 2013 was 50 mil, and 2014 was 50 mil.

Gwyneth Paltrow, you know how much she made in that year? How much? $18 million. So, fucking almost tripled that shit. Okay? You know who else grumpy cat made more than in 2014 cristiano ronaldo the soccer player who's one of the most well-paid and highly endorsed athletes on the planet and this is 2014 ronaldo this is not fucking latter day juventus

you know whatever the fuck that was right this is him out here. So, guys, if you have a cat, start getting licensing deals, please. It's sad. The saddest part was that Grumpy Cat gave birth to a litter of 12 kittens, and they're all fighting over the estate right now. It's very upsetting.

There's no way that that cat was able to reproduce. That thing looked a mess oh yeah you didn't love it oh i love there's no way i loved her but wait are you saying no one would fuck it is that what you're saying it seems like it was probably not overbred yeah yeah or under bread yeah yeah god was just like no again oh but just one thing that's really interesting is that the the owner like it really changed the life of the owner uh 99 million dollars changed their life definitely changed their life yeah she was able to buy a lot of snakes with that money

uh it says what what she's achieved in such a short time is unimaginable and absolutely mind-blowing i was able to quit my job as a waitress within days of her first appearance on social media and the phone simply hasn't stopped ringing since. Wow. That's gotta be a trip when you're like, here's my cat. I don't know, internet. What do you think? And then your phone is blowing. That you could actually say

within days of that, be like, yeah, I'm not working at this Fuddruckers anymore. I'm out. I'm out. And guess what? I've been drinking from the cheese spigot the whole time after hours man it really puts the light of that movie ted mark walberg would have been way more successful i guess um too little too late yeah uh that's that's insane well like i'm just trying to picture that that person uh the owner is clearly also a business genius because most people like even like famous

singers don't like in their first two years of fame make 99 million dollars so they must have just hooked up with like a great merchandising whoever the fuck that was yeah call me up right because all there's no limit to i'm also wondering if you're crawfish i think you can make yeah you're happy crawfish my pet crawfish yeah i'm also wondering if there is something where we are, with Gwyneth Paltrow, we're talking about the money that she specifically cleared, whereas with Grumpy Cat, we're talking about the money they generated overall. So Grumpy Cat as industry, as opposed to Gwyneth paltrow where we're talking about like the money that she got after taxes or something like that because because grumpy cat doesn't actually get

the money that it's basically like we're talking about how much money they uh she generated but anyways it's not to take anything away from grumpy cat i know it sounded like a real sounds like you trying to say okay you're like well we don't know well i mean how do they look at gwyneth away from Grumpy Cat. I know it sounded like a real Grumpy Cat Trump. You'd be like, well, we don't know. How do they look at Gwyneth Paltrow's financials from that year? I think she's doing pretty well. All I'm saying is my client had a good couple years. Wait, your client? What? No. Gwyneth. Sorry. I mispronounced it.

Also, do you remember the Grumpy Cat movie called Grumpy Cat's Worst Christmas Ever? Yeah. Do you remember that trailer, though? If y'all remember. I didn't even know it existed. That's what I'm saying Yeah. Do you remember that trailer, though? If y'all remember. No, I didn't even know it existed. Okay, so that's what I'm saying. That was part of that year, right,

when Grumpy Cat made all that money. So it was Grumpy Cat, but voiced by a very famous comedian. Actress. Comedian actress. Lisa Lampanelli. Aubrey Plaza. Oh.

Was the voice of Grumpy Cat in that movie. What? Yes. So that was the gravitational pull of Grumpy Cat in that movie. What? Yes. So that was the gravitational pull of Grumpy Cat in that time. Wow. Good for her. Just let that stew a little bit. And if you watch the trailer, you're like, somebody just cut the check and then run.

Like, ran the fuck out of there. Because this is not a thing. But hey, get your money. Get your coins. Rest in peace. Myth. What's something people think is true, you know, to be false or vice versa? Well, I've been writing a lot about the media's role in climate denial lately.

And I think one thing people believe to be true is that especially their sort of heroes of journalism, like the New York Times, the Washington Post, are kind of like, you know, have spotless reputations and could never possibly be influenced by corporate interests. But in fact, The New York Times worked with Mobile and then Exxon and then ExxonMobil to create the advertorial and the op-ad, which are like two forms of native advertising that show up in the paper. And I mean, I don't know. I feel like the media has actually been one of the most effective tools of oil company propaganda, which I don't think people know or necessarily even think about, including people in the media.

Actually, I feel like this is like a myth that is self-perpetuating. I feel like this is like a myth that is self-perpetuating. Because I have a lot of friends who are reporters and have gotten into these like discussions online with people a lot too. And they're like, but I've never been – I work for the New York Times and I've never been influenced by an oil company guy. And it's like, yeah, dude, I'm not talking about like some guy in like a tux and tails and top hat with like a mustache showing up at your desk and being like, spike that story, you know? Yeah. It's like, give me a red pen. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah.

It's approved. Yeah. Yeah. But we know from various documents that, you know, like the guy who ran PR for Mobile Forever, for example, would routinely pull ad buys from papers that were running too many stories that were critical of the industry. Wow. And then those like ad buys would return.

So, you know. Right. See some causation there. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway. So the way a journalist might experience it and not realize it is they're at an editorial meeting, they pitch a story and their editor or editor in chief would have like gotten

some feedback. And so they just like subtly steer them in another direction. They're like, we're not as interested in that. We feel like we've covered that enough. We've done that a lot. Let's talk about the animals affected by the Arctic Trail. Yes. Just the animals.

Let's talk about what they did to get there. Yeah, exactly. So I guess the myth is that influence shows up in obvious ways, and it really doesn't. That's why it's influential. is that, you know, influence shows up in obvious ways and it really doesn't. That's why it's influential. But I mean, those companies legitimately believe

that there's no such thing as climate change, right? What, the oil companies? Well, they all have pages on their websites now that say that they do. Now their thing is that, you know, we still can't really tell how bad it's going to be. Not true. Right. And that it's not their responsibility. They're really big on being like, it's a global

problem that requires a global solution. Right. But, you know, U.S. oil companies are the number one producer of fossil fuels and have been for a while. So. Right. They're also the global supplier of that global problem like wait i'm hearing global a lot in relation to you oh so it does sound like y'all problem but yeah right we'll see yeah is that stat true that uh it's like a hundred companies that are responsible for like some huge portion of yeah like seven i think it's 70 percent um yeah the carbon majors report which came out maybe i think the first one was five or six years ago. There was one guy, Richard Headey, who looked at all of the sort of human emissions from the industrial age to now,

and then looked at certain industries and certain companies and did this whole kind of inventory and figured out that yeah 100 companies are responsible for i think it's 70 percent of um global like greenhouse gas emissions which is then formed the basis of lots of different lawsuits around that and which is why we don't use straws exactly so it's kind of on us and twisty light bulbs think about how many straws you've used that's a great myth, actually, is this whole individual responsibility thing. So the oil companies are constantly like, well, you guys wanted it. We're just supplying a demand. But A, most individuals I know are not oil executives and did not spend massive amounts of money to influence how people understand this issue or lobby, you know, Congress to get certain regulations. Like

most people, this idea that like, oh, it's our fault for driving. It's like most people I know would rather commute on public transit. It's just not like they haven't been given that option. You know, even if they wouldn't rather do it or like knowingly rather do it, it's because there's a huge competitive disadvantage to not being able to like have the freedom to roam at the same speed as somebody who has your same job. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Yeah. It's this like – and I mean I know lots of people who very much like know that climate change is happening, know that humans are involved, whatever.

And that will like kind of repeat this stuff. I mean, you see it every Earth Day. It's like 10 things you can do. Yeah. You mean pull up to BP with a fucking, with a squad? Right. Direct shit? Yeah.

It's one of the things I can do. Well, it's funny because the greenwashing stuff is so effective because if you looked at a BP ad, you thought they were in the solar business. Oh, yeah. Exxon's in the algae business now. Right, exactly. It's so effective, too, because I think it completely obscures like, no, do you remember the oil spill that happened? That's the same BP.

But, you know. Yeah, great PR. Beyond petroleum. Yeah, exactly. Beyond profits. Yeah, great PR. Beyond petroleum. Yeah, exactly. Beyond profits.

I mean, yeah, it needs to be a huge systematic change, right? Yeah. Not us stopping using straws, although do whatever you want. Yeah, I mean, that's fine. Do that stuff, sure. But that's not the biggest driver of the problem. That's not going to break the wheel. Well, and also, fossil fuel companies actually, they will continue to increase supply whether there's demand for it or not.

We have an oversupply right now. Yeah. And they like – there's actually like a lot of data that shows that their continued push to drill more or get more natural gas from here to there or whatever is actually like driving an increase in demand and not the other way around. They act like somehow they created the only demand side only economy. The game is completely rigged. Yeah.

Let's talk about QAnoners. QAnoners. Because they ruined a children's butterfly fundraiser, which i keep saying that like it's a thing it's the sweetest sounding thing on earth children's butterfly fundraiser what is cuter than that those three words are that are already on their own unoffensive right and then when you combine them it creates a trifecta of loving, loveliness. Just innocence.

Just perfect innocence. Children's butterfly fundraiser. Yeah, a fundraiser for the local schools, by the way. That's not a fundraiser for butterflies that are owned by kids. Right. It's not. I understand now. Or all those butterflies that people in LA were smashing with their cars. Right.

That whole fucking. Yeah, that was rough. So James Comey, it all started with a tweet from James Comey. He tweeted, hashtag five jobs I've had. One, grocery store clerk. Two, vocal soloist for church weddings. Three, chemist. Four, strike replacement high school teacher.

You mean scab? Scab motherfucker. The fuck was that? Five, FBI director interrupted. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Starring Angelina Jolie. Right. So, you know, fairly ordinary tweet.

Relatable guy. And also, too, this was a thing that was just trending on the internet. Yes. The quote, hashtag five jobs I've had thing. Five jobs I've had was not created by James Comey. It was already trending. was not created by james comey no it was already trending and like a uh politician who you know can't create his own content right he's just like haha here here i me too me too right so q anon saw that the tweet was actually a secret message um because it contained five jobs i've had actually contains the word five jihad uh jihad so if you selectively here look yeah look at how this person marked up this tweet so if you say

five jobs i've had yeah they're using the j from jobs i from i've then the had as jihad yes oh right because five jihads but they're skipping the first capital letter yeah but that's not the point because no and they're using but they're using all three of the last word all three letters but five is obviously a reference to the how he's gonna do five different jihad ah okay. Right. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I mean, they could have also selectively just circled where it just says fibs. Right. But you know what? Yeah. Yeah.

So he actually didn't have any of those jobs. So five jihad. Okay. Okay. Then they looked down the list at the first letter in each name, because the way that the FBI and CIA like to send messages is via acrostics. Oh, is that what it's called? Isn't that when you spell something out with the first letter?

It's like, I love my mom. Oh, right. That seems right. Right. Anyways, they saw that it was GVCSF. So grocery, vocal soloist, chemist, strike. And they realized that was obviously a reference to the grass Valley charter school foundation,

uh, the fundraising arm of a California school in a small town of 13,000. Uh, and then they saw that on may 11th, the grass Valley charter school was set to have their blue marble Jubilee, uh, which was a butterfly themed earth day fundraiser. That was the cutest thing in the entire world.

It was to consist of egg carton painting and frolicking. That's actually in the tagline. There will be frolicking. There will be frolicking. Oh, my God. And bins of bird seed for some reason. But not only that, Jack. What time was the tweet?

So this is the one thing that, I mean, obviously, this is Comey sending out a flare to his fellows because it was posted at 8.46 a.m. And why is that significant? Wait, what? That's the time the first plane hit the World Trade Center on 9-11. That's right. Everybody knows that. That's why we have a moment of silence.

I can't even believe why, why a to just circle selectively all these things and to think that the whatever cryptic cryptography the fbi would use or whatever this deep state government it's that simple that you could just be high and be like yeah the word jihad is yeah all right i gotta tell the rest of the people. No, this is what they do instead of getting high. This gets them high. This is their drug. So seeing this irrefutable evidence, the QAnon community immediately began inundating the principal of that school with messages warning that he was going to face a terror attack on that day that was actually a false flag orchestrated by the FBI to take away their guns. And it became so just virulent and angry that the school had to cancel the event. God damn it. Not because they thought there was an actual attack

coming, but because they worried QAnon believers would show up and do something terrible. Just be weird around their kids. Right. And be like, oh, don't look at them. No problem. But yeah, that ended up sucking for the students, because the school was set to raise about $15,000 for the charity and recoup thousands more that they had spent to plan and put on the event.

And instead, QAnon managed to make a public school lose $15,000, basically. And also spike the football like they're the fucking heroes. Right. You're welcome, essentially. No, they did. While Grass Valley Charter mourned the loss of needed funds, QAnon believers reveled in a disaster averted. Quote, it definitely won't happen now thanks to Anon's decoding abilities,

a QAnon follower tweeted smugly of the jihad. Amazing people in this movement. In this bowel movement, yes. The funny thing is when the QAnon people called the principal and was trying to explain how they knew, because that description is so funny when it's like, it said that it was a normal seemingly monday but checked his voice while he heard from a man identifying himself as a quote patriot alerting

mr maddock to quote the threat he was warning us that something was going to happen at our blue marble jubilee school fundraiser and that we should contact the authorities he kept saying that he is not behind it but he has a credible source a A credible source being... Being what? This other dude who circled a bunch of shit on a James Comey tweet? Yep. That is... That's credibility. But I mean, this is the whole problem. There is a overabundance of information that you can find anything in anything.

Yeah, you can find evidence. So they think that James Comey is sending messages to people to carry out attacks that, were they exposed, would bring the nation crumbling down. And he's sending those via acrostics in public tweets. He's sending those plans. So, yeah. Shout out to QAnon. They have cracked the code. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017,

was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price.

Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job?

Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss a hundred percent of the shots you never take?

Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.

I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.

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Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here. I are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire?

Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. All right. Well, let's get into something equally important.

As we discussed up top, Guy Fieri's... Wait, hold on. You really respect the shit out of that last name. What happened? Is it because you watch so much and you hear him say it like that? No, I think it's... Does he say it like that? Yeah, because he was like, hey, it's Guy Fieri. Guy Fieri.

I think I heard it on a podcast. Maybe Doughboys pronounce it that way. And so I just... Oh, you've internalized it? Yeah, internalized it that way. It's also better. I like the way it feels to say it that way more than Fieri. Yeah, well, I have about the cultural sensitivity of an Ellis Island guy.

Had to try to understand your name. It's Fieri. It's Fiery. Fiery. Yeah. You know, he has a very famous look. Yeah. And I guess he's a nice guy, right?

There's a lot of stories. Yeah. Contrary to his outward look, he's actually a very kind person. He's like the Keanu of chefs. Well, I don't know. We won't go that't know let's pump the brakes yeah yeah but uh there's you know a lot of people are always like what's his up with his style so uh his wife recently did an interview with uh people magazine very hard-hitting journalism

yeah um and talking about like so she says this when i first met, he had no goatee. He had dark hair. He wore a suit to work every day. Now I look at him and I'm like, where's that man I married with the whole clean look? Whoa. That is like some shit that you say at a crisis point in your marriage. Yeah. You say that in front of a marriage counselor. Right.

And you're like, and you know, to be honest, I look at him and I think, where's the man that I know? I don't know what this clown is before me. This bizarre, grotesque being. So then we find out what the genesis was of this whole look. And apparently it was an accident somewhat because he had a hairdresser at the time. And his guy says, he said, I was just kind of having one of those moods one day and said, just do whatever you want. She goes, whatever I want, whatever you want, he recalls.

I get done. I'm like, you're going to wash out that shampoo? She goes, no, that's your hair color. I'm like, my what? It was Friday night at like six o'clock. I had to be at the restaurant. I'm like, no. She's like, yeah.

So I put a ball cap on and I walked to the restaurant. Wow. And then they kind of go on to say like his hair was like changing with the seasons. Like it used to be seasonal. Like it was like a mood, I guess, that he would put on his hair. So he said, I would do a red blonde in the summer for fun. That is fun. Yeah. He'd cut it. Hot. Flames. Yeah, he'd cut it, and it was, like, really fun. That's his wife, Lori, speaking. And then the wintertime, he'd go back to dark.

So it's like, you know, he realizes there's work, there's play. And, you know, she says that she would never, but does not want him to change it. Yeah. She says, I always say, when are you going to change your haircut? But it's stuck and it's him. She adds, I tease him every once in a while. And I do want a little change sometimes. But that's like me changing my hair to black.

I mean, I'm not going to do that for him. So, boom. Yeah. I kind of like that. I like that she can be like, he looks like a clown. But, you know, it's his brand now. She's like that open about it. They seem like, again, as much as this guy is uh you know sort of a cultural clown every

everything i read about him makes me respect him a little bit he's the fucking mayor of flavor town right don't fuck around that is fair and don't forget was it one wrestling like tex wasabis or some shit the names are cool, too. Yes. You know, I think he's a magic. He's like a he's like a puckish figure in the world of the culinary arts. Yeah. A very like if Shakespeare had written about America instead of puck, he would have created Guy Fieri.

All right. Let's get into the stories of the day. And as we mentioned, New Coke is going to be making a comeback. So I didn't realize that not that many people knew the story of New Coke. But yeah, at a certain point in the 80s, Coke was so scared of Pepsi that they... And Pepsi did this kind of brilliant trolling move where they kept talking about the taste test, the Pepsi challenge, where they kept beating Coke in the Pepsi challenge, which was just a, you take a like little Dixie cup of each and then ask people which they like

better. And people generally liked Pepsi every time. Like it was like a 70% test rate. So Coke re-engineered their whole product to be good in those taste tests. And we're like, guys, we did it. We have new Coke, which is going to be better than old Coke. It's going to be even better than Pepsi. And people weren't happy about it. Was it that like Pepsi was sweeter than Coke or something? Wasn't there some kind of bias even like in how they presented it? Right. So the Pepsi challenge, the stupid thing is that the Pepsi challenge was a test that was invented by Pepsi. And it's not how people actually consume your product.

Nobody takes a small sip of the product. It's about how it drinks as an entire beverage. You sound like a Coke guy who's trying to be like, this is wrong. I've read a lot about this because I think it's so fascinating. There's also a little wrinkle in it that involves Bill Cosby that I also think is interesting. So anyways, it wasn't as good as regular Coke. Neither was Pepsi. It's just that when you take a little thimble full

the sweeter one wins every time but if you're having to take multiple sips of it it's like it becomes too overwhelming for anyone who's not like seven years old yeah and trying to melt their teeth right so so they there was a huge backlash they went back to coca-cola classic and this ended uh bill cosby's relationship with Coke. Prior to this, Bill Cosby was the pitch man for Coke. He was the face of New Coke, and he got really mad at Coke because he was like, yo, I put my face out there

and said that New Coke was better than old Coke, and now you're making me look like a liar. And people were like, that's weird that he's that. They're like, you're a rapist. Right, well, so they- And you're making me look like a liar and people were like that's weird that he's like you're a rapist right well so they're worried about new they weren't like that yeah but they didn't say that a lot the thing that was weird is that he was very like stuck on people not trusting when he told them to drink something oh oh that's right i remember you talking about this so like it i think there was like a subtle thing where he was like, you can trust me. My trustworthiness when I tell you to drink something is important.

That's a big part of my brand. But is the only difference that New Coke was just a sweeter mutant version of the old recipe? Yeah, it's sweeter. And people were like, this is not the Coke I grew up with. Right. I think maybe it was a stunt like IHOP to like IHOB and they never really did it and they just – Well, they put a lot of money in. Like it wasn't like a brief stunt where they're like, we'll go to New Coke and then go back to Coca-Cola Classic.

They're like, this is what Coke is now, baby. Right. I think people in retrospect were like, that was brilliant because sales for Coke went up after they went back to coca-cola classic because people valued it but it it was an actual fuck up like they put all their marketing into new coke and then like it was off shelves within a month well all this to say that you can get your hands on a can of new coke yeah because it's a promotion with the new stranger thing season because you know the new season takes place in 85 so So there's a lot of retro marketing shit going into it.

But apparently they're doing special edition glass bottles. And if you get that, they'll hook you up with a can of new Coke. So you can live the nightmare. Just like everyone else did. I think we should get it because I'm curious how far off

it is. Right. Or if it's just one of those things that if you're like a Coke boy, like it was fucking with your head, like you're like, mm-mm-mm, this is not good. I mean, people study Coca-Cola Classic in the food sciences world because it has this great balance of how sweet it is versus mouthfeel or all the shit that they care about in that industry and it like has a good balance and this one doesn't have that but it is i don't know i

feel like as a as a spinoff product like why why wouldn't they just keep it just be like no this is new coke it's the really sweet one and it like their whole problem was just being like, there's not room for two types of Coke out there. Well, now we have, what, 7,000 kinds? Right, exactly. I think we've got room for that. New Coke Zero. Right. New Coke Lime.

Yeah. Or New Vanilla Coke. Yeah, so I don't know. We'll see. And maybe the world has changed so much that people will like New Coke better. I'd be interested to who their spokesman's going to be, like, outside of Stranger Things. Bill Cosby again, weirdly.

I did not see that coming. I was like, wow. Who should it be? Yeah, New Coke. Millie Bobby Brown? French Montana. Yeah. Let's do that.

Well, like, Mountain Dew has, like, Sway Lee and, like, whatever. Right, right. But do they have to go to, like, Michael J. Fox or something, like, 80s style? Yeah, go back. And they're all old. Damn. Yeah, who do they have to go to Michael J. Fox or something, like 80s style? Yeah, go back. And they're all old. Damn. Yeah, who do you get? I don't know.

Bruno Mars. Yeah, Bruno Mars would actually work. Because he's like throwback 80s kind of a little bit. Don't believe me, just sip. And then boom, there you go. Yeah, da-da-na-na. Just writes itself. Yeah, or The Weeknd because he feels Michael Jackson so hard

that you would get Michael Jackson in his prime if you were going to get anyone. You could do a cool mock Michael Jackson video, like a thriller video with the weekend in it. That would be pretty dope for a commercial. But wasn't Michael Jackson doing Pepsi? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but this was

their attempt to defeat Pepsi. So then they should just go a step down and it would be like Rockwell. Right. They're like, we got Rockwell. We got Barry Gordy's son, Rockwell. In the 80s, soda companies seemed to gravitate towards rapists, apparently. Yeah.

Yeah, just there's something about it, man, because soda is poison, I think, at the end of the day, because the shit is terrible for you. Yeah. Mr. Rogers wasn't out here getting those big contracts. No, he was working with Calistoga Water Company. Or something like that. Chocolate milk. Yeah. Chocolate milk was that edgy shit.

He's like Clay Thompson. Yeah. I always love that when it's the NBA and you have Kyrie doing a Nike commercial. And then I forget who the... Oh, it's the center from the Celtics does chocolate milk commercials and it's like he's like Al Horford yeah Al Horford Clay Thompson actually does one too

it's like damn man you couldn't get those Gatorade right yeah your age is fucked up so you just give me Gatorade kind of right so it's a thirst quencher for a very specific time. It's chocolate milk.

For five-year-olds. Yeah. Time to talk about cartoons and video game characters. Who could get it? I like the way you said it. It's almost like we're at a slumber party. You're like, okay, guys. It's time to talk about which cartoon characters, video game characters gave us little arousings

no that somebody was talking about that i think in context of disney having aladdin coming out and somebody was saying you know aladdin was my first crush uh and you know i mean a few people came at me on twitter they're like how can we not participate in this hashtag oh really how can we not talk about lola bunny i'm like i well because lola bunny's not my first cartoon crush yeah this is something we found out so miles famous for you know being sexually obsessed with lola bunny uh it's kind of his thing but she's not she wasn't your first no my first would have to be Psylocke from the X-Men and very specifically there was a 1991 issue illustrated by Jim Lee the great Jim Lee uh where it was like a poster uh but on the ins the poster wasn't like an action scene it was all the X-Men chilling at the pool so you got to see all the characters

in their bikinis okay and you know rogue has like a little bit of like a like a short wetsuit kind of thing going on uh aurora roman rose storm she got like the nice little 90s bikini going on but sylock is sunbathing i very remember very vividly and uh she i can't i can't forget her. Wow. And what was Wolverine wearing? Wolverine is wearing jorts. He's wearing cut off jean shorts I believe is what his outfit was. That's pretty hot. Those are his jorts.

But look at Psylocke right there. The Bob Weir look. She's getting her tan. And then Cyclops looks like he's a beach volleyball player. I thought you said Cyclops at first when you said Psylocke. I'm not a huge X-Men fan. I was like, yeah, James Marsden?

Oh, I mean. So, B, what about you, man? Mine's not that cool. It's definitely like Sunday newspaper funnies. It's like Blondie. Oh, really? Blondie. Is that what it's called?

I think that's what it's called i think it was it's called no i think you're thinking of kathy yeah close second um blondie the the wife the the biggest yeah dagwood world's biggest overachiever yeah yeah that was those were very cool not very not like no but it's all different you know yeah it's all that's where you discover things you know i mean yeah i think i love women with purple hair yeah there it is uh april o'neill and jasmine oh shit i forgot about april o'neill yeah because april o'neill had the weird like yellow thing where you like she was untouchable because like the male leads were turtles right so like it had the vibe of like the older girl that like didn't even know you existed

type thing i feel like that that played into it with april o'neill and then jasmine was just really hot did she hook up with casey jones in that in the movie i don't know there is something between them searching for humans i feel like in the movie? Did she? I don't know. There is something between them. I'm just searching for humans. I feel like in the first movie, they kind of had a little bit of back and forth. I don't know. I'm sure somebody will holler at me on Twitter about that. What about video game characters?

Did you ever have a video game crush? I don't think I had a video game crush other than Chris Mullins' jump shot in the original NBA Jam. Weddy, Weddy. Detlef Schrempf. No, not yet. That would be mine. Okay. Detlef Schrempf and Sean, yeah. That would be mine. Okay. Detlef Schrempf and Sean Kemp.

They were a powerful duo. I think mine would be, I guess, Dikembe Mutombo then. Yeah. For me. There you go. I think the only person I could really think of is, like, I wasn't into, like, you know, Peach or Princess Toadstool or whatever her name is from Mario. Yeah.

Peach, I guess. Street Fighter. Oh, yeah. Chun-Li. Street Fighter. Yeah. Chun-Li. Quite a yeah. Chun-Li. Street Fighter, yeah. Chun-Li. Chun-Li. Chun-Li, yeah.

You know, I liked her dress with the weird front and back flaps. Yeah. But Lara Croft, I think that'll always be there. Yeah, I was out on video games by that point, I think. Oh, shit.

That's early. Yeah. It was like 96 or something when the first Tomb Raider came out? Yeah, that was right around when I quit. That's right when I quit. I had to get off the sauce. Had to get off.

Got lost in the sauce. That's right. Yeah. Well, anyways. All right. Well, I guess let's get back to work. All right. We're going to take a quick break.

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And Moby's back in the news because of his memoir, which people are apparently reading at an extremely slow rate because it's like we get one revelation every couple months. So the first revelation, Miles, we covered here on the Daily Zeitgeist. We were nominated for a Peabody for it. Peabody. Did not win.

Peabody. A Peabody. A Peabody award. That's how the Brits pronounce it. Peabody. Did not win. Peabody. Peabody. A Peabody. A Peabody award. That's how the Brits pronounce it. Peabody. Do they? No. Oh.

I'd believe it. But thank you for trying to make my mispronunciation. Thanks for trusting me, though. I'm also helping you feel better about that. First story, our Peabody winning story was about how Moby, once when he was drunk, rubbed his dick on Donald Trump as he mourned 9-11 it was at

how else are you going to do it? he really did the Tobias I'm not going to blame it all on 9-11 but it certainly didn't help thing where he just blames an unrelated bad behavior on 9-11 anyways now he's cell phoning with his weird description of

a failed relationship with natalie portman yeah he claims to have dated when she was 20 he was 33 33 well let's i think well here let's let's look at his we have we have so many receipts so let's just go through them in his book he he claims first that they met when he was 33 backstage in Austin, Texas, and they were going to parties in New York together, and he would see her at Harvard and, quote, kissing under the centuries-old oak trees. At midnight, she brought me to her dorm room. There's no oak trees.

And we lay down next to each other on her small bed. After she fell asleep, I carefully extracted myself from her arms. Ew, extracted. And took a taxi back to my hotel. And then he said he had some anxiety about the relationship. Quote, it wanted one thing, for me to be alone. Nothing triggered my panic attacks more than getting close to a woman I cared about. For a few weeks, I had tried to be Natalie's boyfriend, but it hadn't worked out. So he makes it seem like they were in a

relationship and he was just too much of a tortured soul to continue dating Natalie Portman. Or the dude was just wild creepy. Right. And she was like, okay, maybe we kissed once and that was fun for a thrill. And now you're not leaving me alone right and there and you laughed at the line about centuries old oak trees because you did go to a small school in cambridge yes yeah massachusetts i don't remember there being a bunch of centuries old oak trees yeah that you kissed under i mean it's very oh you know the old kissing tree yeah it's got a lot of uh substance on it yeah so then natalie portman had to basically respond to this because she was like i don't remember it like this at all her she says quote i was surprised to hear that he characterized the very short time that i knew him as dating

because my recollection is a much older man being creepy with me when i just had graduated high school oh my gosh he said i was 20 i I definitely wasn't. I was a teenager. I had just turned 18. There was no fact checking from him or his publisher. It almost feels deliberate. And it says, the book says they met in September 99 and she was born in June 1981.

18 years old. No. Yeah. And so, you know, so he likes to prey on recent high school grads. But Moby then couldn't just be some guy. He had to prove that it's true. Right. And he posted a photo of them, like, from a while back.

He's shirtless and looks like aspiring Terry Richardson. And in the post, the text of that post is, I recently read a gossip piece wherein Natalie Portman said that we'd never dated. This confused me, as we did, in fact, date. And after briefly dating in 1999, we remained friends for years. I like Natalie and I respect her intelligence and activism. But to be honest, I can't figure out why she would actively misrepresent the truth about our albeit brief involvement the story as laid out in my book then it fell apart is accurate with lots of

corroborating photo evidence thanks moby p.s i completely respect natalie's possible regret in dating me to be fair i would probably regret dating me too but it doesn't alter the actual facts of our brief romantic history okay dude you dude. You're already doing too much. Right. You're already doing too much when you're pulling up to people who just turned 18 and you're 33? Mm-hmm. No. I mean, like, by that definition, like, when I was, like, 17 or 18, I took a swing dancing class that was open to the community. And so there was this guy, this older gentleman in his 70s or something,

and he was like, every opportunity, because it would be like, all right, now you two try swinging and dancing. I was like, please, no. And then he would just feel my hands. Oh. You know?

In a way that's like, he's, like the thumbs would do things. It's like, it'd be like if that guy was like. Wrote a memoir. Wrote a memoir, like me and Katie dated briefly. Right. And it's like.

You were like giving me weird hand massages. You felt my hands a lot. I'll give you that much. There's another quote from Moby where he talks about how he figured out ahead of the writing of this book that you can say whatever you want about a famous celebrity because they're not going to be able to sue because they're a public figure. Whereas if he claims to have had an affair with somebody who's a private individual, they can sue the hell out of him. So he. Wait, really? Yeah, yeah.

So he basically like gives up his whole plan to claim to have hooked up with Natalie Portman. To borrow a word from the youth, it's just a weird flex. Yeah, a very weird flex. Bizarre flex. It's unnecessary. It's a weird flex to be like, yeah, I dated a barely 18-year-old. Yeah, but that's not the only person that he also was, I guess, part of his romantic history, as he claims. Right.

He also dated a, well, I don't know. He tried to hit on a pre-Lana Del Rey. Lana Del Rey. Huh. As he describes it. She's even younger, isn't she? Well, I think this is much later on. Okay.

When he's like just fully weird. She had short bleached hair and looked like a beautiful elf. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yep, here we go. I sat next to her on the piano bench and started kissing her. She kissed me back, but then stopped. What's wrong, I asked. I like you, but I hear you do this with a lot of people.

I wanted to lie to tell her that I didn't. That I was chaste, sane, and ethical, but I said nothing. Wow. There's also a moment. I wanted to lie and tell her I wasn't a fucking player. This is how this conversation actually went down. He's like, you're like a beautiful elf. And she's like, oh, I've gotta

do a go to the thing now. Wait, wait, wait. Do the tongue thing. Do the tongue thing. Oh, no, bro. I'm sorry. There's another excerpt I think earlier. I didn't put it in here, but they're talking about his five five story apartment he had and she was like you have five floors and like yeah pretty cool she's like yeah you're the man she goes yeah i am the man it's like no like the man like the fucking destroyer like the people who like the people who are put to the guillotines first right he's like oh right, Lana. I like fucking dope. You know, she keeps it G real.

Uh huh. There's a, uh, audio clip that we just have to play for you guys. Um, this is a, it's a podcast that we have spent the last couple of days trying to, you know,

fact check, make sure it's real. And all indications, uh, from around the internet are that this is a real conversation that happened uh so like this you've probably like put the most research right this is as hard as we've tried to look i had to cruise reddit cringe to look through the comments usually somebody comes up real quick like this shit is fake i know because of this right or a

bit that they're doing because it's on a podcast. Because we all know how podcasts go. You've got to get some kind of body language expert in to look and say, oh, you... Well, if you watch this clip, this person's body language seems very real to me. I want to see the clip. In this clip... So we're actually going to plug in two miles of the laptop so Katie can actually see the video

because his body language is part of the thing that makes it so convincing that this is a genuine moment of, a teachable moment for him. Yeah. And so this is them discussing just sort of bathroom habits around having a bowel movement. Right.

Just like we all touch shit before. I've never shitted in a tissue before. You touch shit every single day if you shit. Like you don't wipe yourself? It got shit in the tissue when you wipe yourself. You don't know how to get the... Why are you touching the shit? The tissue is for the shit.

That's what I'm saying. You grab shit all the time. No, no, no. You're not saying that. You don't. Yeah, you wipe. You're not wiping. You grab the shit.

You don't grab... Why are you grabbing shit? Hold on, hold on. Do you got shit stuck in your ass while you're taking... Hold on, you wipe. You're not wiping. You grab the shit. You don't grab. Why are you grabbing shit? Hold on, hold on. Do you got shit stuck in your ass while you're taking? Are you telling me that y'all just let the doodle fall in the toilet? Y'all don't catch it every time? Yo. I am about to leave, bro.

How do y'all take a shit? I must have seen this shit wrong. My nigga. I've been catching my shit all these years. Nah, I'm more disgusted than like i feel like i can't continue what are you talking about i'm my stomach so hold on so y'all just sit there and shit right come right out so no way what happens if you got the runs or something like that what do you do then you wash your hair why do you think people i'm just gonna edit edit it out. So he is turning to people off camera while this is happening,

like being like, come on, am I crazy? He looks distressed. Yeah. He's like, wait, what? You got, come on, somebody back me up here. And if that's fake, then he should, he needs an agent. Yes. He's a fucking agent because the-

He does a great performance. He did not know where he was. He did not know where he landed. He did not know where he landed. And he was like, what do you mean? And then when he goes, y'all just let the dude hit the water? Right. When I heard that, I'm like, wow. Like this is someone who really thought that's weird.

Wow, I have been shitting wrong the whole time. Was that what you thought? Yeah, I'm trying to figure out like, because like I'm trying to figure out the thought process there because why would you need to intercept the shit? I know. That's what I'm curious about. But this goes on to a larger discussion we're having. Is that this taboo, I think we have taboo topics where I think people can develop these interesting ways of doing shit like taking a dump.

Right. Because we don't really talk about it, right? And you meet people all the time and you're like, what? Yeah. There are these certain things. I've noticed it before with how you bathe. It's just this sort of thing. Yeah, with how Miles bathes when I observe him.

I ask for pointers, to be fair. He makes Jack dictate while I bathe. Right. Jack, podcast idea. Take notes. No, it's a thing you don't really get feedback on. We've talked before,

I think, about how there are cultural differences and white people are less likely to use washcloths. I've gotten incredulous reactions. What? Washcloths. Right. And I've gotten incredulous reactions. Wait, what? What? Yeah, that's a thing.

A washcloth. Well, like you use like something else though, right? Like a poof or a... No, no, that's white people stuff. That's like late 90s, like the poof. Like just a tiny washcloth and soak that shit up and then you just... So like it's that white people use things like loofahs or poofs

but... No, I grew up just using soap in my hands. Not a wash rag. I see. Yeah, see? These are all... These are the kinds of things. But how do you get the... We wash it after. Right. I mean, there's water running over it the whole time.

I'm not saying I was right. And then you leave that by the toilet and then then you can use it to wipe your ass. Right, exactly. And then you soap it up in the shower, and then you clean it back and forth. Right. That's a joke. You look so perplexed. All right, that's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

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