The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 85 (Best of 7/22/19-7/26/19)

Episode Date: July 28, 2019

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you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah.

So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist uh and finally what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false uh doritos are of this world that's a myth yes they landed here on an asteroid it's not they're not real Yeah You like Doritos? I do That's why I can't eat It's like the perfect amount

Perfect amount Yeah Could you eat like a family size bag? Without a doubt And like some good queso Or something like that Oh fuck You double up

Come on man Yo I like that Come on man You're looking If we're gonna sin Right I just don't wanna Fully dive in.

Yeah, we're not just going to have oral sex. Right, let's do this. Let's breach the castle walls. Nacho cheese Doritos with Green Mountain Gringo salsa is one of my favorite combos. What's Green Mountain Gringo salsa? Medium. It's just a salsa that I really like. Do they sell it here?

Yeah, like Ralph's. Oh, shit. It's just one of my favorite salsas. Does it say Gr sell it here? Yeah. That's in LA? Like Ralph's. Yeah. Oh, shit. It's just one of my favorite salsas. Does it say gringo on it? Yeah. Awesome. At least they know. It's awesome.

It puts off anyone who wants salsa. They're like, gringo, mm-mm. We don't want that. I'll take it. Give it to me. There was actually, on that food blog, The Takeout, they posited the question to their staff, is it nacho cheese or Cool Ranch, the Superior Dorito? I gotta go with Nacho Cheese.

And they were deadlocked. Nacho Cheese. Because I think Cool Ranch gives you such a weird feeling in your mouth, like tasting your mouth afterwards. The zing? Yeah. That's what we call the zing, Jack. Right.

The zing ends up at maybe three minutes after you've eaten it, making it feel like you've sucked on a battery or something. Yeah, a me the proper way to eat the Cool Ranch is in the sandwich itself. Yeah, that's true. Sandwich accessory? Well, like inside the sandwich. Accent.

Yeah, because like you said, it's too much. What kind of sandwich with Cool Ranch Doritos? Fucking anything. Subway, man. Anything you'd put ranch on, bro. Yeah, anything you would eat it with, like any kind of sandwich you would eat it with, you'd just put it in there. Yeah, you know, it's funny.

I'm always nacho cheese, but then I have Cool Ranch, and I go, you know what? This one isn't bad, too. That's like chocolate and vanilla. Yeah, you need vanilla bean. Every now and then you need chocolate, and you're like, oh, shit. Vanilla, hey. Especially vanilla bean, hey. Oh, vanilla bean.

Hey, all right. Come on, man. A new show, wife did this bit because she was because I like vanilla and she's like a you're like a psychopath why you just eat the vanilla she was like it's pretty fun when doing stage I was like I wouldn't because I think I'm pretty normal right and she did it in it bombs I was like I think there's a reason it's one of the popular flavors. Right. She was like, I didn't think. I didn't tell her that.

I was like, this is going to be funny. Could you just wait to do that until I'm around? So funny. That's awesome. What is something that's underrated? Men. Men? Men?

Jamie. Yeah, men. I'm a men's rights activist. Great. Surprise. I? Jamie. Yeah, men. I'm a men's rights activist. Great. Surprise. I tricked Anna. Now debate me, coward. To Jamie.

Debate me, Jamie. You think you're so smart with your Mensa? Debate an average man. Yeah. But to own you with facts and logic. I care about my feelings. You referenced a tinfoil hat. I think what's underrated is what I used to think were really crazy conspiracy theories.

I've had friends that have been telling me for years that all the world's elite are pedophiles. And I was like, that sounds crazy. But maybe they were right this whole time. Oh, yeah. Looking at these lists, you're like, huh. I'm like, man, that is everyone you told me was a pedophile jeez like i've been i've been told that like i've been told crazy things about bill clinton my whole life but i thought it was just because i grew up in a red state you know but yeah i mean god see that's why this whole jeffrey epstein thing i bring it all

out bring it i want to see it all that is we need to get to the bottom of this shit that is the funny thing is you're seeing like a lot of of more right-leaning people that are like, well, what about when one of your people comes out? And everyone's like, yeah, please. Take them all. The fires are being stoked and ready. Yeah. And it's in every area of rich people, too.

Every genre of rich. If you haven't seen An Open Secret, have you guys seen An Open Secret? That's the documentary from a couple years ago by Amy Berg about like

Hollywood specific pedophiles. And like, it couldn't get a theatrical release really because it was like such a controversial subject.

Oh shit, I gotta see that. She's like an Oscar winning director and she couldn't get it. Right, right, right. But it's like, it's so prevalent. I mean, we that. She's like an Oscar winning director and she couldn't get it. Right, right, right. But it's like it's so prevalent. I mean, we got we're talking Perlman today. And this is like Abuseville, too.

Like especially the carrot of fame is used to just manipulate the fuck out of people. I still am just like, how is Dan Schneider not in jail? Like there's so many people who belong in jail and they're not. Hey, it's coming, man. It's coming. Maybe it's coming. Yeah. I mean, it's coming out and it's just like,

I feel like a lot of things are just coming to the surface. That's why everything's so crazy. It's just like, we're at the, the cauldron is bubbling. It's reached peak boil and we're just like all standing around

like, oh God, it's going to blow. The devil's butt crack is throbbing. Yeah. The devil's, the devil's balloon knots inside out. I can tell, man. The devil's balloon knots inside out. I can tell, man. The devil's windsock. Now, what is a myth? What's something that you, I forget how Jack words it, but what's a myth, man? What's a myth you could just bust?

Okay, so this kind of blew my mind, and it's kind of a string of thought that leads to a couple quotes that we've been misusing for years. So my girl and I were kind of talking about this whole basic idea that millennials are ungrateful or lazy. And we were just talking about how really it's more that we're so inundated with options that no one can feel contentment. Because it's just we're so constantly aware of what we don't have or or what the other thing we could be doing like my grandparents had a beautiful marriage they were married for like 65 years but it's also like that's a myth she was just yeah yeah what if i what if that was my myth i would like to break the myth that my grandparents had a good yeah it's like a very petty it's like whoa is this a thanksgiving conversation i, any grandparents courting story is the scariest thing I've ever heard.

Oh, yeah. My grandparents met via my grandfather cat calling my grandfather. In a parking lot. Yeah, she had like a much younger sibling. She was like, you know, walking the baby around. She's a teenager. And my grandfather tailgated her, pulled up to her. It was like, hey, that your baby?

And then they were married for 500 years. Hey your baby yo that your baby yo ma that's your baby that's your baby no what are you doing this you're looking dumb thing wow okay so go on oh yeah well it was just we were just talking about this like also my they didn't have like facebook you know where all of a sudden that girl that you kind of missed with in high school hits you up 20 years later like i've been thinking about you you know like he didn't have to deal with any of that shit she didn't have to deal with any of that shit options are limited so anyway we were just talking about like there's all these quotes that we've just been misusing and honestly to the opposite effect so like for instance did you know blood is thicker than water?

The full saying is actually the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb, which basically means the opposite. So it's basically the bonds that you choose to make mean much more than the bonds that you're born into. But we literally say it like blood is thicker than water.

Yeah, like blood over everything. Yeah, blood over everything. But it's really like because your friends will adapt with you, it flows more like water. So like blood is slower to move. So your family is not going to change. So you create your own family that's like-minded, and you guys are now moving like a hive in your water.

It's actually like an insult to say blood is thicker than water. Exactly. Wow. And we've been saying it like that for years. That's so cool. And then the other one is they they say jack of all trades master of none right which is like if you focus on a bunch of things you won't be great at anything but the full saying is jack of all trades master of none but maybe that's better than a master of one so basically a jack of all trades would beat a master at most things because a master is only good at one thing.

So if you're good at ten things, you're going to beat the master at nine things. Yo, this is a real – thank you. Man, that's – man. Wow. Smiling. Now I can fucking be like, fuck you, family. Yeah. I'm with water now.

The next person to call me a multi-hyphenate is gonna get kicked in the face. You don't fucking get the origin, homie. You don't know the end of the phrase. Oh, you're just a master at Super Smash Brothers. Okay. I'm a little bit good at many other things as well. Hell yeah. Okay, that was empowering. That was amazing. Yeah, that was a

fucking... I just wanted to share that feeling with you. Motherfucking paradigm shift. I think we need a new drop for paradigm shifts. Shift into paradigm. Just go in the lab and marinate on that. That's what those earthquakes were, baby. It was just the paradigm shifting. See, the devil's butt provides.

And it giveth and it taketh away. Jamie? Miles? How is MenCon? Give us a quick update. What's going on? Quick update. Jamie Miles How is MenCon Men Okay so Give us a quick update What's going on Quick update

I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go crazy On the recap But I do feel like You know I've been talking To Zygang About this story For over a year now

Yeah you You are a Mensa Yes You've been You've written things About Mensa Yes You've been

I'll let you just tell your story I'm sorry Just making space in here So basically If you're not familiar That's great honestly Took the Mensa entry exam As a joke

Turned out to not be Turned out I was a genius And I genuinely do believe this Turns out the test is way easier than they tell you and it's kind of a grift. Wow, hot take. I truly believe like a lot of people, almost anyone can pass this test I think. If you grew up taking standardized tests, which most of us did. If you did well on your standardized tests in elementary school, you'll probably do well on these.

Either way, wrote about it as a joke, got in as a joke, was writing some kind of goofy pieces under the assumption that the group was kind of a bunch of rich liberal nerds. Yeah, sure. So kind of poking at that. Then turns out it was a way more complicated organization than I realized. There were a lot of secret Facebook groups that were – Toxic? They're – you know, I'm trying to remain – I'm like 12,000 words deep into this story. And it is way –

Have you said that many words already? Way more bizarre. Oh, you're writing. Okay. I thought you had spoken 12,000 words just now. No, although I am going cropped and viral right now. You're cropped and viral on that cold brew. On the cold brew.

But long story short, there were all these secret groups, especially this one unmoderated one, who found my work and immediately were like, you know, like there were threats, there were insults. It was just kind of the general person online. Yeah, you poked a cultural beehive online. Right. And then the response. So I just started writing about that. I stopped making fun of it and started reporting on it.

Things kind of spiraled out. I met people who were very high up in American Mensa, and they were like, yeah, we're not going to shut this group down because people like it, even though it's extremely right-leaning, a lot of racist stuff in there, a lot of anything folk, it's in that group. And they'll specifically target members of the group they don't agree with and mass block them and basically make the group inaccessible. So it was requested that I go to the annual gathering. Of the Juggalos.

Of the Juggalos. But it was in Phoenix this year, so it was three days, three nights, 72 hours of Mensa, 110 degrees minimum the whole time because we're in fucking Phoenix. The whole time because we're in fucking Phoenix. Yeah. And it was like truly one of the most bizarre experiences I've ever had where I wasn't expecting for like I had a name tag on. And I think I was confronted for good, bad, somewhere in between by minimum 100 people. Wow. Just like it was –

Because you've been – you're sort of a pariah in the Mensa community now. Well, but I didn't anticipate to like – No, of course. But yeah, but I know like you – people knew the name Jamie Loftus in certain circles. Sure. But I mean it was – I thought – I was assuming I could kind of – Right. You know, not slink around, but they asked me basically the criticism of me besides the fact that I'm an ugly cunt who doesn't know what I'm talking about.

Outside of that very valid criticism. The criticism was that I, you know, prejudged the organization before I got to know them. Which, so I was like, okay, fine, I'll go and, you know, I'll talk to people and, you know, fine. And, yeah, I met, I've never, like, there were multiple times where I was in a room full of people who had blocked me online. They knew exactly who I was. I had no way of knowing who any of them were.

Ooh, that's, ooh. And it was just a series of in-person interactions right I mean some of them were light confrontation yeah I mean some of them were pleasant conversations and then I would hear from a second party after like oh that person has said really like hideous things about you that whoa that I can't Right. So it was just like a very weird translating from online to IRL situation. I was kind of surprised that there were a few members who they were so aggressive towards me that I knew who they were. Whoa, right, right. Which means that they went out of their way to go out of the blocking and contact me directly.

Sure. And there were a few people I met who got, like, I think surprisingly vulnerable with, like, why they felt a certain way about a certain thing. And I still disagree with most of it, but it was like, I don't know, I got invited to this dinner at, like, Scottish Hooters in Phoenix. It's called Tilted Kilt. It is called Tilted Kilt. Respect to Tilted Kilt.

It is Scottish Hooters. And I mean, I ended up talking to all these people. That's amazing that Mensa meetings are at the Tilted Kilt. Yeah, they're like, we're going to go to Tilted Kilt later. We're intellectual. Meet me at the Buffalo Wing Bar. It was a massive, I mean, there were 2,000 people at the Sheraton in Phoenix doing this and and the daytime I mean the lectures during the day were mostly stupid and hilarious where there was comedy workshops run by 80 year

old professors comedy workshops I went to three comedy themed workshops what what how why why do they need comedy worked on in a shop I don't know but I don't think that they were helped by the programming available. My favorite one was called Because Science is Cool, Young Sheldon, the Big Bang Theory, and You. Oh. It was cute. By CBS. Yeah, sponsored by CBS.

No, it was, I mean, I'd never seen a room full of full-grown adults recite a scene from the Big Bang Theory from memory and then laugh their heads off. Wow. But it was, I mean, it was, I am going to write something about it. It's taking a long time because there's more to write about than I anticipated. I don't know. It was truly like the most bizarre, one of the most bizarre weekends I've ever had. And I still don't even know how I feel about it.

Well, I can't wait for you to finish this very long piece you've been working on because it sounds like it has everything. It was a very strange experience that I guess that I'll reach my conclusion at some point, but it's so long. It's so much stuff. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated, i would say gloria who is the cashier at my local uh el poyo loco um she does a wonderful job like she makes

me have a great day every time i go in there and i know that part of it is like she's just the face of the delicious chicken that i get and like the people in the back who like season the chicken they're probably doing all the hard work but you know she just greets me with a smile every day she really is like the best uh cashier of any place that I've ever had right that's awesome I feel like we have a very it's an important relationship right and doesn't make you feel bad for eating a El Pollo Loco every day no and not only that she does the thing where she you know they're reading like off a script where they have to try and upsell you things. But she does it with such a smile and such a pleasant attitude

that I don't begrudge her trying to get me to sign up for the El Pollo Loco app or try some chips and guacamole for $2 extra. Do you ever fall victim to that? Absolutely not, no. Oh, wow. Yeah, no. Just as kindly back, you're like, I think not Gloria. Do you want to put this on your El Pollo Loco American Express?

Wait, you have one of those, don't you? Don't you? You don't have? I mean, I should. If I was getting points for that, it would be one of the most positive, effective ways I could use those. I'm really surprised, Vince. And I can call you Vince, right? Absolutely, yes. I know how frequently you come in here. And if you just sign up, right, you actually get 10,000 free Pollo bucks just for signing up.

And that translates to, well, the way you eat, probably about a month's worth of free food. Well, all right. On that note, we're going to go to a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia.

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Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?

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Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.

From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?

This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. Finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true, you know, to be false? Oh, man. I forgot this part of the thing. Lefty loosey, righty tighty. Yeah, not always true.

Not always true. Sometimes the contractor just blows it. In fact, in my apartment, they put the cold and the hot on the wrong side in my shower, and I think they did it just to screw with me. And it's righty loosey? Yeah. Oh, my. side in my shower and I think they did it like just to screw with me and it's righty Lucy yeah oh my well also oh it's not that it's like a world gone mad we need a we need a rhyme that is like clockwise verse counterclockwise because it's not it's not really obvious like it I always have to like think about it and be like well they mean the top is going in that direction.

Because that's why we have clockwise versus counterclockwise is because we haven't decided one means right and the other means left. So come up with a better one. The top goes right and the bottom goes left. If it's threaded the right way, it's always going to turn that way, no? No, but I'm just saying the bottom part is going left, though. On a circular thing, it's circle.

It's circle, Miles. Right. I don't think you can say a perfect circle that is turning in place is going to the right or left. It's going clockwise or counterclockwise. Okay. Yeah. So fuck off, man. All right.

How could it? But if you fixed a point on the outside of a circle, you would very much be able to tell if it's going. You're just saying in relation because we don't have a vertical line that actually differentiates between right and left. Right. Oh, okay. Well, I guess I never thought so deeply about it.

I just twist the fucking thing. Yeah. But I like how it sort of fills us out. I'm like, how could we know, though? Is there like a calculus term for this that we're just too dumb to know? Probably. Almost definitely. There is a mathematical answer.

Math gang, let us know how dumb we sound right now. Right. I think I might be the only one who sounds dumb here. I think everyone's like, what are you talking about? Vince is gobsmacked at the moment. Yeah, I mean, I started this discussion. I blame myself. Wait, but then I'm guessing for this thing to hold true,

that if it's lefty-tighty, that would mean it's completely inverted. Like, even the way the shit's threaded, no? Yeah, it's just installed backwards or something. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not a contractor. What are threaded, no? Yeah, it's just installed backwards or something. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not a contractor. I don't know. Look, what are we, scientists?

You know? No. No, we're not. No, we're not. Hey. Just got word in we're not scientists. Confirmed from the booth? I can confirm.

Okay, we are not fucking scientists. But let's talk about this employee who was interviewed for Wired, this employee who was interviewed for Wired, who has a background as a CIA officer turned Facebook employee. Yeah. And this woman, Yael Eisenstadt, I think is her name. Eisenstadt, pardon me, Yael Eisenstadt. Yes. Worked for the CIA, was a diplomat in East Africa, advisor to Vice President Biden. And before that, and then came because they were like, hey, we have, I think, an election meddling problem. You want to check it out? And she joined as head of global elections integrity ops. And that was meaning like, hey, you're in the CIA. You get it. You know how this shit works.

Like, what can we be doing to, like, safeguard democracy around the world? Which is the CIA's number one job. Number one priority. The thing they're most famous for, safeguarding democracy. Safeguarding oil profits. With targeted assassinations. Targeted assassinations. And, yes.

And if we have to use jackals, we'll do that. But then on day two, she realized that the job probably wasn't going to be all that chill because she was like instantly there. Like her boss was like, yeah, we're going to, I think we're changing it up a little bit based on like what we need. And we're just going to make you a manager for now. And she's like, I'm from the fuck what? Okay. So when they asked her, she goes on this interview, she says, quote, once I walked in that door, I was never once empowered to do the work I was hired to do. And in fact, more than not being empowered, I was purposefully sidelined. It's Facebook.

Everyone talks about it being a flat organization. Everybody talks about how anybody can go talk to anybody. It was never that way for me. My boss intentionally never let me participate in any of the meetings that were specifically about the job I was hired to do. So you're like, huh, that's interesting. Well, what else did they do? Like what, what kind of stuff they do in foreign interference? Her first part was just sort of like, um, they just kind of did the bare minimum, which isn't much, but she says the foreign interference part, this might sound odd, but should be the easiest part to fix. Of course,

people can always game it, but there are basic tools you can put in place. There were advertisers who paid in rubles. Those are things that shouldn't have been that hard to figure out. That was like her day one. And now it's like, you accept rubles? Okay. So why don't we do that? And I think maybe that's when they were, but when she was asked, like, do you think you were just a publicity stunt? She didn't think she was, but I think, or she didn't believe she was, but as her work became clearer, I think that's when she realized that any suggestion she made was going to butt up against what the business model is of all of these social media platforms. And she's very clear. It's not just about Facebook or Google or Twitter or YouTube, whatever. This is just how all social media

works. And I think this is what's very interesting and something that we deeply need to consider. Quote, the business model is to keep you engaged. It's not even a question of whether advertising is bad or good. It's a question of what do they have to do to keep you engaged long enough to get those ads in front of your eyeballs. Their tools are doing what they can to keep us engaged, which is taking us down more and more extreme rabbit holes, which is polarizing us more and more because the salacious talking points and salacious clickbaity headlines are what keep people's eyeballs on their screens. And the more and more you can keep us outraged, keep us angry, keep us polarized, it just makes it much easier for Russia to come in and exploit that. For me, the biggest issue is to fix a

business model that intentionally feeds on the worst part of who we are as humans. And yes, people can say, isn't it just human beings? Is it Facebook or Google or Twitter or YouTube's fault that people love this stuff? It's not their fault, but they're absolutely manipulating it and exacerbating it and getting into our psychology in order to keep us on their screen. So I can't buy the, isn't it just human nature argument? Right. they're engineering things to manipulate human nature and now yeah to the point where it's like well fuck i guess if we keep turning adding spice to the recipe right it will just it's already starting to burn but if it's like nah man i guess we need spicier shit to get people fucking going to keep so i can serve you an ad for shambong

right or whatever the fuck it is right uh but i I think that's really, yeah, I think that's part of the business model that I think legislators also have to look at of like, oh, you're purely guided by I need advertisers to buy ads. The only way I can make our platform attractive to advertisers is by saying I can keep idiots staring at this fucking thing for x hours at a time yeah yeah there's this book good to great that's like this guy did a study on companies that had like sustained success and one of the like main things he says they all have in common is called the hedgehog principle which is like they know one thing like they just always have the same sort of core value uh at the heart of

everything they do so like with i forget what the like gillette was one of the companies and like it was like some manner of like shaving like staying focused on being the best in the world at like providing like shaving things so uh with facebook like it seems like the entire like dna of the country of the company is built on you know is built counter to actually like protecting people's privacy and not manipulating them and not making it easy for them to be manipulated. So it doesn't, like, you can't just put a single person in there and change, like, the molecular structure of the company. Like, that's just not... It's an organism. Everything about it is built to be a successful company that makes money.

And the way they do that is the opposite of what we're asking them to do. So it's not going to come from within. They would either need to be dismantled or you would need to put a government agency inside the company that regulates them and is sitting in on their meetings or something. It would have to be totally unprecedented. Yeah, and the funny thing, the one thing that she was saying based on her working there like, seeing, like, oh, their whole thing is to know what the fuck you want to see and just keep accelerating your need to keep looking. And that's where she was like, yeah, I'm in this unique position where I've worked at the CIA, and I can tell you Facebook knows fucking way more about you than even the CIA does. That's troubling.

Yeah. Because the CIA knows a So... That's troubling. Yeah. Because the CIA knows a lot about me. Yeah. They do. They've been following me for years. How'd you wind up on their screens, man? Oh, he used to run this really weird Tumblr. Oh, that'll get him?

Yeah, real weird. Yeah. A lot of wacky stuff on there. We all saw the... I mean, that's not to say everyone did, but the people that like... Even the Lego movie, all these things that are about like dystopian sort of futures and everyone went, okay, just kind of keep a heads up. There were people that were late adopters to phones and then smartphones, people that were late joining Facebook or any of those social media platforms to be like, God damn it, all my friends are gone. I'm either going to just live out here in the woods rubbing sticks together and never see anyone.

Right. I got to kind of join the hive. And it became inescapable for us. Yeah. So it felt like, no, no, no, we'll all kind of monitor each other. Like, hey, keep an eye out. Big brother, right? We all read that.

Right. And now it's just so, we're so immersed in it, so oppressive that we're like, now I'm little brother. Right. You know? And it just seems absolutely impossible like you're talking about like we need someone to come and regulate that'll never happen right we have no power to do that to in any way hold them accountable

right when there are hundreds of billions of dollars and if you remember when zuckerberg went up to testify in front of congress these motherfuckers don't know what fate they don't know what the fuck this is right like those congressmen like my granddaughter got a game that said i was racist right like well you are steve king right so what do you want me to do but like the even then we don't even have the legislators that are equipped with the idea that like conceptually what this is and what the potential is of this kind of thing yeah and that's where we where we're like, Oh man. And then she, in the, this CIA,

a former CIA person, former Facebook employee even pointed to that. She's like, yeah, I don't even know if Congress is fucking equipped to even under like conceptually get down to what this is. She was like, we,

we need a targeted assassination to take care of this problem. She's like, yeah, call in a jackal. If we can't smear Zuckerberg with compromise, then maybe he shouldn't fly private too much. The thing about, yeah, call in a jackal. If we can't smear Zuckerberg with Compromat, then maybe he shouldn't fly private too much. The thing about, do you have friends who have, to this day, to this day, who are not on Facebook? I have one friend who has avoided MySpace, every fucking social media thing.

Like the whole, oh, okay. He's a ghost. Huh. He is not fucking available on this shit. And I commend him because now I'm, it wasn't even like him being like,

oh, I don't know. He was just sort of like, what do I gotta do? Sign up? I don't even know how I get a fucking picture on my computer. Nah, I'm good.

Right. And then like now I'm like, this guy's got it all figured out. Yeah. But it's funny, like I feel like there are, there are kinds of people who are so suspicious that never engaged in it. And then people like my friend who was just too lazy and didn't care enough about technology to be interested in it.

Yeah. Until he was trying to use Tinder. And he's like, you need a Facebook account. And he's like, fuck it. I'm just going to use OKCupid then. Right. I don't need it. Nice.

Good for him. Yeah. I like his then. Right. I don't need it. Nice. Good for him. Yeah, I like his style. No, I mean, I barely fuck with Facebook, but I do fuck with other social media platforms. It does seem like young people make fun of people who have Facebook, which is at least a little bit uplifting. Yeah. But they're going to age into a category where they go, I want to see everyone's baby photos. They're going to merge into it where, because you see all that stuff.

Snapchat is such a great thing for the temporary nature of existence. Like they're living a life kind of knowing the previous generation was like, that was your great grandmother's table. So you own that now and you have to keep it forever. And you're like, it means nothing to me. It takes up a lot of space.

But it's been in the family. And the younger people are like, oh, I had this photo. It was the greatest day of my life. It disappeared. Right. I'll never see it again. Such is life.

Yes. What's next? What's the next thing? I'm in the present. So potentially that could be, I mean, of course, there's still ways to data mine all of your stuff and sell your information with that. But it's a little less like every time people sit down and type anything on Facebook, they're saying, here's where I am.

Here's what I like. Here's how you can market to me. And that's what I think. And now you know that forever. That's what I think. Yeah. This never goes away. And this is an ephemeral.

Well, that's what I've been saying. Snapchat is an entire philosophy. It's not just a platform. Yeah, man. It's all about the ephemeral, man. Yeah, it was interesting. I heard an interview with Janine Garofalo where she still has the mindset of somebody in the late 90s who's like, I don't really fuck with computers. But for good reasons that at the time might have seemed paranoid. But now – but it was just wild because I was like, oh, yeah, I haven't heard somebody like this since i was like 10 years old like people just like stopped having this concern everyone was

just like yeah we joined yeah everything's good now uh but she was like yeah i don't really do computers and like i don't put anything on the internet and i was like what a loser but now i'm like two years in retrospect i'm like oh okay oh, I'm going to get those likes. For years, I didn't have any of the stuff. And I sent out a mailing list through my website, starting in like maybe 2007 or 8, something like that. And then it finally like avalanched. I couldn't reach out and get in touch with people.

They were only available through the networks. I was like, damn, you used to be able to like search them or go to their website or something. You might even have someone's actual phone number written down. And then, so I'm doing a bunch of standup shows coming up and I sent out the mailing list for the first time in like two years. It felt fantastic. It was just this feeling of like, that's how I'd love to communicate.

Here's what I'm up to once a year or so. If you want to email me back, great. But I don't feel like it's healthy for humans to have to constantly be like, I'm not dead. Here's the thing, I'm still alive. I feel happy. That is, I do feel like there are people who post a lot, a lot on social media.

I do feel like that comes from an existential place of I'm not dead every time they post. Oh, sure, yeah. Yeah, I exist and I matter and sent. And this is the version of me that you will accept. Yes. If I look at someone's thing and they have like 50,000 tweets,

even if I like them, I will never follow. You need something that I can't give you. Right. It's terrifying to me. Yeah, this is coming from a place of deep, unnerving need. Just screaming to the void, man. Yeah. Speaking of people with really weird dicks, Leonardo DiCaprio.

No, I have no idea if he has a weird dick. Probably not. He's just been sued, Jack. He probably has a gorgeous dick. Leonardo DiCaprio. Hey. Sorry. No. I mean. Thank you. dick leonardo dick caprio hey sorry no i mean thank you i think that's the i think that's my favorite joke that anybody's made on our podcast to this point uh anyway nard's dick caprio nard

dick uh has is still forced to answer questions about uh why jack had to die at the end of titanic like so he's going around doing press for his upcoming you know artsy uh quentin tarantino movie and people are like so why didn't you just get on the door with rose like you could have fit it was obvious oh like pivoting like like being like, and great. What was it like to work with Quentin Tarantino and Brad Pitt? Okay. And look, I got to ask, like everyone's still harping on that? To the point that like, he's really like pissed about it.

Like Brad Pitt was with him on, during this interview and was like, yeah, could you have squeezed in there? You could have, right? And Leonardo DiCaprio was like, yeah, could you have squeezed in there? You could have, right? And Leonardo DiCaprio was like, no comment. And he was like, did you mention it at the time? Margot Robbie was like, yeah, did you mention that at the time to James Cameron? He was like, like I said, I have no comment. Oh, God.

Why couldn't the boat just avoid the iceberg? Right, exactly. Could have been a chill film. I think that's a stupid point to be honest the the whole like he should have just gotten on the door because like it might not have floated like well that's why there's been this is such a hotly contested topic like from people who made fucking diagrams of how they both could have fit their bodies on the door and people were like assuming their weight is this,

and this is the buoyancy of this wood. Right, but how do you assume that? So Mythbusters did an episode about the door where they were like, the way he could have done it is to reinforce its buoyancy with a life vest. But that requires him to swim, like while it's like 20 degree water, swim under the door and like put a life vest on there uh and this is a point james cameron had to make he was like in response to that he's like

you're talking about the mythbusters thing right yeah oh you're talking mythbusters well let me bust this for you yeah um so i i agree with james cameron and on this and only this, to quote Titanic. I mean, look, I think it's just one of those things where people were so pissed that he didn't have to die or something. But, like, look, that's why it's a fucking drama, okay? Right. Just fucking suspend your, for a second, just be like, yeah, maybe he fucking had, he just died, okay? That's it. And James Cameron's like, you guys know I pilot submarines, right? Right. You're going to ask me about this? He's like, yeah, I fucking thought about it, man. He's like you guys know i uh pilot submarines right like

you're gonna ask me about this he's like yeah i fucking thought about it oh you want to talk water stuff let's talk water stuff i created new fucking sea tech fuck you but uh you know i think i think more people are pissed about the necklace being thrown away i'm just mad about rose uh committing adultery right wow No one talks about that. You don't go to movies to not see Lion Dick and you don't go to see acts of adultery. Yeah, I don't want to go and watch a nice boat movie and then be tempted by infidelity. Right.

Right. By the fruit of another. You know? I mean, that was, for me, I didn't care as much about Jack Downs. I was like, great, whatever. Like, sure, that's what happens in movies or whatever. Listen, like, it didn't make sense.

No, it made perfect sense. You know that guy would be a shitty husband. Right. He's like, oh, I'm such a lovable rogue drawing pictures of people. Yeah. What job are you going to do in America? Jack definitely fucked at least three other women on the Titanic. On that boat.

Yeah. During that dance sequence in Steerage with all the Irish dancing, what you don't know is she blinked her eyes and he was 69ing with the Titanic. During that dance sequence in Steerage with all the Irish dancing, what you don't know is she blinked her eyes and he was 69ing with the lady. You think yours is the only handprint on this car window? Yeah. When you fog it up, it's just a ton. It just pans over in all the other

cars in Steerage. Just have handprints all over them. So much heat was coming off their genitals. They just fogged the whole thing up. I mean, that guy was, he was getting it in. There's no way he wasn't. I also have a feeling like if they got off, A, she still would have been with Cal, right? Billy Zane?

Yeah. Technically? Because didn't she say she was still with him until he took his own life or something? So she tried to shoot her? Yeah. But she, at the end, she just pretends that she died and starts a completely new personality. Oh, that's right.

And then she just heard tell of Cal's fate where he shot himself after the market crashed in 29 or something. Yes, I believe that's correct. I mean, I would have liked if she gave Cal some weird like steerage std from you know jack like next thing you know he's got like you know lice and and all the crabs and stuff yeah from hanging out down there with all those people all the poor fiddle yeah yeah i feel like but then if they jack and rose are together living a secret life are they mad stressed because he's like yo dude like it's i'm kind of paranoid because you're faked your own death you got that wild ass necklace that's worth a lot of money like i'm wanted like in france right i was drawing all those french girls which is a euphemism

yeah and also like uh can i tell you more stories about me and fabrizio that he was a chill dude there's no way that uh that necklace would have gone unsold unpapawned, if Jack had made it. He would have pawned that shit quick. Oh, right. He gets a bad heroin addiction. Oh, he would have had gambling debts for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, man. See, that's the universe you need to explore. What happens if they get off the boat? She sells a necklace. Is Jack Dawson a good dude? Right. It's also kind of fucked up for her husband because like she has grandkids and stuff and then she dies and goes to heaven and the,

at the end of the movie and Jack is there. She goes to heaven in the movie. Yeah. Okay. She does. I mean, she dies and like arrives and it's the ballroom full of Titanic passengers. Oh shit. That does happen. Yeah, thatroom full of Titanic passengers. Oh shit.

That does happen. Yeah, that does happen at the end. Oh, wow. I forgot about that. I've not seen that shit in a minute. So,

but that means that like her husband, kids, grandkids are all like, yo, where is she? What's she supposed to be here? And she's just like off. Oh,

I'm on the Titanic, homie. Y'all don't know. Yeah. As if Jack hadn't been getting it in, in just like off partying with Jack. Oh, and I'm on the Titanic, homie. Y'all don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As if Jack hadn't been getting it in in heaven that whole time. Oh, man. Oh, she walks in on him in steerage with all the other ones.

He stays in heaven and he's still in steerage. He's like, I should have sold that necklace and started a nonprofit. And when she walks in on him in steerage, she's just sitting back in the car with noise-canceling headphones on, vaping. Which is how Leonardo DiCaprio actually has sex, allegedly. That should be how Jack fucks, then. Yes. Like, in the heaven sequence. He's got AirPods in, vaping hardcore, and he's like, just do your thing, girl.

Not AirPods, bro. Noise-canceling headphones. So that he can just totally zone out. That's right, listening to MTMT's electric feel. Yes. My friend was driving people to – or no, he went to Coachella, and he was watching a concert, and he looked over, and he sees this – he was sort of – this very attractive woman sort of caught his eye,

and then he looked over over and he's like, why is she making out with that really gross, like fat, just disheveled looking dude? And he's looking and he realizes it's Leonardo DiCaprio. And like at a certain point, apparently like Leonardo DiCaprio like left. And the girl was like still like dancing, like waiting for him to come back. And he's like, yeah, I was there for like two hours and she was still in the same spot. Just like waiting for him to come back. And he's like, yeah, I was there for like two hours and she was still in the same spot, just like waiting for Leo to come back. And she probably was dancing by herself there all day.

Little did she know, he went to steerage. Which in Coachella is the do lab. Yeah. I don't even know what that is. It's a Coachella joke for the homies. I pretended like I got it, but I didn't. Yeah. The real plot hole, like you said, our writer, Jan, was pointing out that she really did not have to throw that.

How much did they say it was worth, the diamond? Wasn't it like the rarest diamond on earth, basically, to that point? Hundreds of millions of dollars, and she threw it out for romantic reasons, as opposed to just selling it and feeding a village for the rest of time. Or kids are like, I had to take out student loans. What the hell? Yeah. There is, if you actually search, how much was the heart of the ocean worth?

Yeah. It says, the famous jeweler Harry Winston, known for having owned the Hope Diamond and many other diamonds, made his own take on the Heart of the Ocean Diamond using a real blue diamond, 15 carat. This piece is worth 10 times as much as the previous example valued at 20 million. So, shit. 200 million.

I guess. 20 times as much as the previous, which was 10 million. As the previous example? Yeah. What is that? Is that meaning the real heart of... Look, shit was worth a lot. Rose.

You could have done something with it. It's going to be hard to find a fence. It's like, yeah, we need someone who has $200 million to blow on a rock. That's a good point. Very good point. Huh. Well, I don't know if I have a buyer for that. Let me look.

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anything else you can say the hell out of that phrase. Yeah. He wants to reboot Rocky. Again? Somehow. He did that. Right. Like Creed was a great movie. And Creed 2, I haven't seen.

Creed 2, Electric Boogaloo. Yeah, it was pretty good. He's 73 years old. The last thing we saw. Wow, really? Yeah, he's 73. There's no way that, I mean, the point of a Rocky movie is that Rocky fights at the end of the Rocky movie. Yeah, but now he's fighting against osteoporosis.

Right. And so that'll be really tight. Just drinking a lot of calcium. Yeah, I mean, so in this one, they said, so he did an interview recently where he talked about a lot of things. they said, so he did an interview recently where he talked about a lot of things. But when they talked about a sequel, Stallone says,

there's a good chance that Rocky may write again. He then goes on to divulge the plot of the sequel, which involves, now get this shit, Rocky, quote, befriending a young street fighter living in the U.S. illegally. What? Rocky meets a young, angry person

who got stuck in this country when he comes to see his sister. He takes her into his life and an unbelievable adventure begins. And they wind up south of the border. It's very, very timely. What the fuck is this? I mean...

White fight savior? Fucking... What the... 73-year-old Rocky is running around on border-crossing adventures. fucking what the 73 year old Rocky is like running around on like border crossing adventures immigration advocate 73 yeah yeah I know

he looks amazing right does he I don't even know look I mean if you pump yourself up with enough HGH or whatever the fuck else I'm looking at my view like a melting novelty can be I mean yeah I'm sure I mean I now. The Fountain of Youth. He looks like a melting novelty candle. I mean, yeah, I'm sure, I mean, I can only guess. He's like, yeah, you know, he's going to be Mexican, you know? I mean, he has, so he had the perfect mind for the 80s.

So the idea of Rocky going to Russia to win the Cold War was just the right amount of cheesiness for the 80s. But now, it's like two on the nose. It's aggressive. We're over it. It doesn't work for the modern world. Yeah, you know, he's going to go to Mexico and fight the Me Too mafia.

Right, yeah. Fuck them out. Knock them out. Like, what the me what? You know, all the fentanyl they're bringing in. Right. The Me Too stuff, you know, so you're going to fight them. Like, what the meat? What? You know, all the fentanyl will bring it in. Right. And then the Me Too stuff, you know, so you're going to fight him. Like, okay.

The other thing is, though, he wants to do a TV prequel series. This guy's trying to bite the whole fucking apple. Right. Wow. But this is where he was like, I bet I can't do that because, A, he doesn't even own the intellectual property rights to anything having to do with Rocky. What? He was fucking hoodwinked out of his IP rights to Rocky.

He fucking wrote, he created Rocky, right? Oh my God. The fucking writer of it. That's a pretty common thing, actually. Yeah. Well, yeah, he wrote it when he was a nobody in Hollywood and like sold it to the studio. Like the studio didn't even want him to be the person in it. studio, like the studio didn't even want him to be the person in it.

And he like had to basically put his foot down and be like, look, you can have the intellectual property. Just let me. Just let me fight, you know. Let me look tough. But I think, yeah, I think the producer who does have the rights, Erwin Winkler, like has a good relationship with Sylvester Stallone. So he's the one who's always been like, okay, like, yeah,

let's do another one. Eh, maybe not this prequel thing. But also, an old guy meeting a young, angry kid fighter is also Creed. Right. Yeah, it's like, gotta get a little more Creed.

Yeah, but you know Mexican this time. Yes. Different. I hear they come out and see the movies. Rocky is also based on... So Stallone went and saw this fight where a guy named Chuck Wepner basically made it to the last round with Muhammad Ali.

So Rocky is essentially a true story, and Sylvester Stallone just never gave this guy credit. And at first he was like, yeah, it's based on Chuck Wepner, and then people were like, shh, shh, shh, that's not, and he was like, it's not based on anyone. It's Rocky. So yeah, kind of fucked up. Chuck Wepner signs boxing gloves

in a one-bedroom house for a living these days. Oh, man, really? Yeah. boxing gloves and like a you know one bedroom house for a living these days oh man really? one bedroom house sounds pretty nice I'd actually kill for that yeah it's actually beautiful it's like a Santa Monica bungalow it's really it's like on one of those streets right off ocean that's like

kind of those preserved areas alright that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. Means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday. Bye.

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