The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist (Best of 7/28/25-8/1/25)

Episode Date: August 3, 2025

The weekly round-up of the best moments from DZ's season 399 (Best of 7/28/25-8/1/25)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:14 you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet and welcome to this episode of The Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laugh stravaganza. So without further ado, here is the weekly Zeitgeist. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a TDZ Hall of Famer, one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore, a brilliant stand-up comedian you know from, I don't know, MTV Comedy Central, NBC, TruTV, E, if you watch it. Way too many. Just name them all.
Starting point is 00:03:01 So much TV. Everywhere. Also, Bob's Burgers for our special live from the Big Dog is hilarious. And you can go watch it right now. Please welcome back to the show, it's Blair Saki. Blair. What's up, Psych-Gang? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:03:16 In the building, in the building. It's Blair. Good to see you guys. Well, I have missed you so much. And just our little pre-chat, I was like god I'm home again You know, I'm home you're home though. You can smell the lasagna in the oven big dogs home, baby Is that what the rocks cooking? That's what he's cooking this whole time I love lasagna I love marinara
Starting point is 00:03:42 Go listen, what's your favorite Italian food? I love marinara. Oh, there you go. What's your favorite Italian food? What's my favorite Italian food if I if I had to go to like just my full truth? It would be pizza, but I feel like that's like a no, that's fine. That's a ruby answer. But yeah, I like Okay, if you if an Italian person asked you over that you would get self-conscious about saying that well, we do some character work Self-conscious about saying that what we do some character work. Hey Damn I lost it right away and I never had it someone say yes If I can ask you one question There it is. What's your favorite Italian food?
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Starting point is 00:04:52 I totally know that person you're talking about right now. I know that reference. I know you do. I know you do. Miles gets up to the majors and is first at bat, doesn't hit a home run and is like, this sucks. I fucking suck. I quit.
Starting point is 00:05:04 You got on base, though. You got on base. I don't care. I want a home run. is like this sucks. I thought some suck. I quit You got on base though. You got on base. I don't care one to home run. I'm done Fucking look so stupid That's so stupid I Feel like my Italian order Completely is dependent on like where like if I'm at an Italian restaurant Mm-hmm, I'm going to get a pasta dish because I can't eat. Yeah, like Olive Garden, of course.
Starting point is 00:05:27 You're going to get pasta at Olive Garden. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to fucking, like, because the bowls never end. Yeah. But if I'm going to, like I said, it depends on like how high level I guess it is. Yeah, yeah. Of course. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:40 Because like pizza is just the staple. It's my favorite food. I'm going to get it anywhere. But at an Italian restaurant, even if the Italian restaurant offers pizza, I feel like it's not always the best thing they do. I went to a restaurant that had just a tomato sauce pizza, no cheese on it, and I was with
Starting point is 00:05:57 an Italian person and they ordered it. I was laughing like this ain't no pizza. They're like, this is what we eat in Italy actually. You'll just have like cheeseless slices with this one. I was like, oh, fuck. Yeah pizza and they're like this is what we eat in Italy actually like you'll just have like Cheeseless kind of slices with this and I was like, oh My thing though, I'm a cheat. I'm a frickin cheese. Yeah, I said that cheese from my way, but you know Snap that shit out like a little frickin canine Um, I like like I love a soft ravioli that melts in your mouth.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Like my dad makes it from scratch. It's crazy. Like if you get a well done ravioli. Yeah, yeah. It will take you to the heavens. Oh, like you mean like not the pasta is not overcooked because it's like it's like right in that perfect. If you get like a perfectly executed ravioli, like it is Nirvana. Like a fresh ravioli like it is Nirvana. Hmm. Like a fresh ravioli. High quality, like the thinnest, softest pasta of a ravioli.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I mean, that is like, that's art. It's life changing. It really is. It's not coming in a bag loose with a bunch of other raviolis. And most of them are split open. Like the, the way that I always grew up with my Contadena ravioli. Yeah You just have to like jam a wedge in there to like break off a chunk of ravioli I don't think I ever felt anything for ravioli until like my dad started making them from scratch. That's beautiful
Starting point is 00:07:17 That's not gonna have to come over to your house. Yeah, you should What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Richard Simmons' estate sale auction, something I Googled mid-time last week. The late great Richard Simmons, he passed away at some point last year. Yeah. In the last two weeks, his personal belongings have gone up at auctions. The first auction was at Bonhams, which is a very hoity-toity, very fancy institution. All of the good rich people, when you die, you want your shit to go to Bonhams. That was the first one that I looked at. I did
Starting point is 00:07:54 purchase two items from said auction. And then a secondary one, we'll get there. Yeah. And then a secondary auction popped up after the first Bonhams one closed. It was absolutely like the second wave yard sale version that was just like, Oh, here's just a bunch of random shit we found in boxes. Like all the stuff that wasn't, like not even that just like, Hey, did you want some deal a meal cards that are kind of like waterlogged? We got those. Did you want a case full of VHS tapes that never sold? Got them just like weird chchotchkes are like,
Starting point is 00:08:25 hey, this glass clown, did you want this? I got that for you. It's like, he was probably trying to get rid of that. Yeah. Literally. It's Richard Simmons' trash. Yeah. Just like, hey, here's shit I can't throw away because I've got too much of it. People will know, hey, Richard Simmons threw away all his tapes. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he can't be like, how do I even know this shit? But the first auction, the Bonhams auction was full of treasures, lots of treasures. Uh, we're talking all of his tank tops, like all of his outfits with the matching glasses and his shorts.
Starting point is 00:08:54 We're talking about the Slimmin sign that was on the Slimmin's building itself, which I actually went to and took a class with Richard Simmons, uh, a year to the day that I won my auction in fact, or for 14 years to the day that I won my auction, in fact, or for 14 years to the day, I should say, from when I won my auction, he used to have a studio in Beverly Hills that was incredible to go to. It was a fucking experience. Like, I don't know if I would call it a workout more than just like, you're just standing there just like pretending to do the moves as you watch Richard just bounce around the room and like sexually assault people. It was incredible. I love it. I could not recommend
Starting point is 00:09:25 it more. I'm so glad I did it. I went twice. It was fantastic. But he actually had a lot of incredible art. So I purchased art from the surrealist sculptor, Sergio Bustamante, who's still a living artist. He's a Mexican born artist. He's incredible. He does a lot of fantasy, sort of meets Mexican folklore work. All of his shit's super weird. It'll be like, you know, like a moon with a weird human face or like, just extrapolation to stuff. Yeah, it's like Salvador Galesque.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Galesque sort of, yeah, sculpture, okay. Yeah, he's a surrealist for real. So I bought two- What's his name again? Salvador Sergio Bustamante. Sergio Bustamante. And the first thing that I got was these two sons that are basically like these like beautiful sons that are making different expressions and they have weird hands.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And then the second thing I bought and I did not realize how big it was until after I won the auction. And now I am really nervous because it's a very delicate sculpture, but it is this awesome deer that's painted like blue and pink and it looks very whimsical and fancy like fantasy. And then it has the creepiest human face ever. And I live out in the woods, we have lots of deers, there's antlers all over my house. We've talked about the antelification of my house. You know, the property is called deer ridge. So like it fit, I was like, Oh, I need this deer in my life. But this deer, I have found out since that it is three feet high and two feet wide.
Starting point is 00:10:48 It like, it's a, it's a, it's a whole thing. Um, a whole ass sculpture. So now I have to figure out, I'm waiting for Bonhams to tell me how much it's going to cost to ship this delicate surrealist sculpture from Los Angeles to the backwoods of Tennessee. Yeah. If not great road trip movie for you in this. I'm looking at the sculpture right now. It is very cool. Is it going to be outdoor? No, it's indoor.
Starting point is 00:11:12 No, it'll be indoor. Yeah, I'm going to do it indoor. It's super delicate. It may or may not be completely made of paper mache. That's what I've been trying to research and found out. A lot of his works were on paper mache. So now I'm just, I should have read it more, I should have read the description more carefully, but guys, gals, if you're ever in an auction, don't get caught up. Read the detail. Read the dimensions. Just read the little things like dimensions. I should have, I just assumed it was like
Starting point is 00:11:40 a figurine and absolutely it is not. It is a giant sculpture. But now I'm kind of more excited about it because like this is gonna be cool. Like this is, and it was in his personal gym and like all the things he really loved the most were in his personal gym. So it's just loaded up with Richard Simmons, good vibes. So I can't wait. But yeah, what does that say about me?
Starting point is 00:11:57 I like surrealist art. I like Mexican sculptors. I love eclectic weirdos from the 1970s. I love gay men and I want to be writing to them daily. So I can't wait for this sculpture to get here. And then when people go, what the fuck is that? I'm a one of the White Lotus intros. Like the animal with human face, human with animal energy things that were happening. That's kind of what it is. There's so many Sergio Bustamante pieces in there.
Starting point is 00:12:37 He loved Bustamante, yeah. I'm a big fan of Bustamante as well and his stuff is quite expensive and hard to come by. I was just excited to get stuff that was by an artist that I liked owned by an eclectic figure that I also like. Yeah. Wonderful name by the way. Just to say, Guestamante. Guestamante. It's great. I can't wait to see how my dogs are going to react to this three foot sculpture of a deer with a fucking face on it. They're going to be like, kill it, kill it. Like I'm pretty sure that deer is the same size as my candy corso. So they're going to be like, kill it, kill it. Like, I'm pretty sure that deer is the same size as my candy corso. So they're going to be like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:13:09 Yeah. Hey, it was this guy. It was this guy. Yeah. But yeah, so yeah, that was my search history. What is something you think is underrated? I'm doing this thing recently where I am staying a little uninformed. And I know that it's controversial because I am on a news podcast where I'm about to be
Starting point is 00:13:30 informed about what the fuck is going on in the world. This is, I feel like, something that people talk about on this podcast a lot, actually. But, you know, there's a lot of shame around not keeping up with the news, I think. And it's not necessarily, I think I project it onto myself. You know, like I'm ashamed, like, oh, I should know what's happening in the world. But I think I've gotten to a point where like, I actually understand what's happening entirely and I don't need any further updates
Starting point is 00:13:59 unless it's like something, and if it is really bad, it'll get to me. You know what I mean? You're sort of doing the thing where like it got to a point where like we're cooked, right? OK, we're good. I mean, if we're cooked, what the fuck do I need? What else can I learn? It's like we are so we're cooked.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I've done that with my favorite basketball team, the Philadelphia 76ers, when they're getting beat by 30 and like so I turn the game off and I know someone's going to text me. If like anything happens. Yeah. Yeah. If it's like, back the other direction or if one of the players, like legs fall off, like I'm going to get 20 texts all at once. So like, I don't actually need to.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And in fact, I did that for the whole season last year. I don't have to watch any of this shit Yeah, this season of America is bad. Yes Changes better It's gonna get worse so no But if it gets really fucked up, let me know. No, I mean I totally get that It's I that's where I hope maybe for people who listen to this show This is like a slight service we can offer people. It's, listen to it. We'll say some shit that's going on. We'll laugh a little bit,
Starting point is 00:15:08 but also we get that. We'll let you know too when shit's really bad. We try to, but I, yeah, it's, it's, it is exhausting and having to look at like the microscopic granular degradation of society every day is, is, it might not be healthy. But it is good to have situational awareness. Uphold shareholder value every day. Like, and I'm not, obviously I work here, but I just mean in general, we're all just kind of like,
Starting point is 00:15:38 we're all just working and everything is just. That is what we, when we enter the dock every morning, we say a little prayer about shareholder value for you. You say, dear Lord, ever guide our hands so that we can make line go up. Right. Our father who art in Wall Street would be that. But I think to an extent, like, I think what's more important than anything is just to focus on what's going on around you in your neck of the woods, in your neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:16:11 What's happening in your community and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, that's a powerful antidote. I always say that when people get really into the doom scroll, it's like, look, I know you're seeing shit from around the world that is happening right now, but go outside into your community and think about what's happening there Yes, it's we have varying degrees of fucked up But you will feel much more empowered if you can do these things that are in your immediate physical space, too
Starting point is 00:16:38 Not to say that you ignore everything else, but that's you'll feel better You know if any if anything did Janie tell y tell you how much money she raised for Palestine relief? No, I don't think so. Yeah, I don't remember when she was on here last, but she, 4th of July, had a party. She raised like $4,000 something for Palestine relief. That's awesome. And we love you, Janie.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Hell yeah. Yeah. But she had hot dogs and beer and whatnot. The woke beer, of course. Yes, of course. What is something that you think is overrated? I mean, I'm obviously like on a food kick here, but you know, I personally think getting a matcha latte at a coffee shop or a matcha shop is a little overrated. Not to say I won't do it, because I will do it.
Starting point is 00:17:28 But listen, the matcha you can make at home, if you get yourself a good matcha, like a good quality matcha powder, I just, I prefer the matcha that I make at home. It could be a hot latte, a cold latte, whatever. Like you don't have the cute little like Instagrammable experience as much. But for me, the quality that I make is more consistent and better.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I think that this whole social media aesthetic of having your cute little matcha is beautiful. It looks beautiful. But I just want to suggest to anyone out here who's getting a six, seven, eight dollar matcha every day, just try making it yourself because I bet you'll be really impressed. Nothing looks better than a matcha. Matcha is the best looking drink, I feel like. It looks so good. I feel like that might be why some people are ordering them out because they're performatively drinking something that is the coolest color. I mean, it's so cool. I have to say,
Starting point is 00:18:26 I had my first matcha. I was fortunate to travel to Japan in 2009. So I hadn't had one before and I- This is before everybody. ... did a whole tea ceremony and had a matcha. I was like, this is cool. Then they had this matcha ice cream and all the stuff that they have here in the States today. I got to experience in Japan and I remember being like,
Starting point is 00:18:46 man, will I ever have this again? You know, like I can only hope and then boom, here we are. Yeah, a few listeners on Instagram DM'd me like posts from like this company that like makes matcha and it's like these two white women who were like, when we went to Japan, we realized it's like, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, y'all discovered some matcha now? Okay, okay, we love that.
Starting point is 00:19:08 We discovered matcha in Japan. My tip as a Japanese person, buy it from a Japanese grower provider and you can cut out the middle man who is doing the, I discovered matcha company on Instagram. There you go. That quality is gonna be straight up ass because it's gonna be sold to people who are just, again, like, like the look of like, I'm drinking green drink.
Starting point is 00:19:30 But yeah, it's right. Like, I mean, you can even go like I did this, like I went on Amazon and looked for like the reviews of like the highest quality matcha and then went to that brand's website. Right. Yeah. Order. Like, it's not that hard. No, no, no, it's not. And typically, this is the thing I say Look, well sometimes cheaper on Amazon. I bet you you go to the website of the thing you want to buy They're gonna be like hey one 15% off right now, but the second you click on the website, so
Starting point is 00:19:55 You know leave I got some really cheap matcha at a Korean grocery store near my house It was wasabi you guys be careful. I'm telling you It's nasty out there. It was in a tube. I should have known. How are you? Because so for my, uh, homemade was a matcha, I needed to find the right mixing implement because I got like the matcha set with a little like proper whisk wooden whisk, and I was not skilled enough with the whisk to like, it just wasn't quite as good as the, like, the, the Wooden whisk. Yeah. And I was not skilled enough with the whisk to like, it just wasn't quite as good as it is like elsewhere. But then I got the handheld mixer,
Starting point is 00:20:35 the little like thing that you press the thing on and it like spins really fast. It's like, I think it's called a milk frother. Yeah, a little frother. Totally made it like, so it was indistinguishable from the matcha that you get at the store. Yeah. Yeah, I have to say I have all of those things and admittedly, like what I do most of the time when I'm in a hurry, which is not, this is not authentic, okay?
Starting point is 00:20:59 So I am not doing an authentic method, is I throw it in the blender. So I do like, I heat up my milk because I do like the milk to also be hot, but it's like I don't. I'm sorry. Miles is so upset. It's in the blender and I blend it. Miles is going full on the screen. And I add ginger.
Starting point is 00:21:18 So like that's, again, this is not like, I did not experience this in Japan. This is my African American take on matcha. I love it. But I add a little bit of either powdered ginger, like again, Trader Joe's has a really good powdered ginger, or sometimes a little frozen ginger cube. I don't know, I like it in all of my tea, not just my matcha, but I'm a big tea drinker,
Starting point is 00:21:42 and I just like to add ginger to everything. So that's why the blender comes in handy, right? Because it like blends it all up. But that like, you know, everyone, I would start with the whisk. Well, I mean, yeah, I grab my face in horror in jest, but I'm also, look, I'm black and East, I'm also American. I also look for ways to do shortcuts.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Because the process, right, with the whisk, I understand like as a process as a Japanese person, it's like this is part of the tradition. Yeah, you're aerating the matcha like with it. But also part of me does think of like, I mean, what if I'm just trying to get this quick? Yeah, but I would never like if I had like a cooking show or something, I would never be like, do my new method of making matcha, throw it in the blood.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Like that, like that's not that I would put it like, do my new method of making matcha, throw it in the blood. Like that's not. I put it on your countertop. Dude, I went to a coffee shop where people had the bamboo whisk on a fucking power drill. Yeah, yeah. Like the barista. That's essentially what I'm doing. Yeah, but I was like, yo, this is a, like, it felt like the most American thing where it's like, I'm gonna put this bamboo whisk on a power drill. How am I gonna black and de this bamboo whisk on a power drill.
Starting point is 00:22:45 How am I going to black and decker this shit up a little bit? Yeah. Should we even be calling it matcha or should we be calling it like- Green drink. Green tea. Yeah. It's green tea at that point. Yeah. Green tea latte. Ecto cooler. Yeah. Ecto cooler.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Hi-C ecto cooler. I do a little shot of hot water and then spoon the powder on top of the shot of hot water and then just like mix it in my mouth as I'm running out the door. Is that the traditional? Yeah. Yeah. And then I put the frother in.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I just use an electric toothbrush. I take my electric toothbrush with me. I just put it on my electric toothbrush. It does it all, two in one. Yeah, yeah. I will say though, my husband has gotten into recently instant coffee, which like he's like a coffee guy, right? Like he like, I'm a matcha drinker, it's my preference, but like, he is super into coffee. And he went to
Starting point is 00:23:30 a friend's house recently for a brunch. And he was like, their coffee is so good. Like, I'm going to ask them what it is. And it's, it's from this like specialized grocery store, but it's their instant coffee at this specialized grocery store. And so he's like, screw it. Like I'm going to do that now. And so he also uses the blender, right? So he's like, you know, hot water, instant coffee. He might add a little something good, you know? And so we're both like blending our non-usually blended drinks lately. So it's just this whole thing that's going on in my house.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Same, same blender. I feel like. Same blender. Wow. Yeah. Okay. It's got a power wash that thing up. Are you worried about the flavors contaminating each other? I'm worried about those flavors contaminating one another.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Coffee really sticks. Yeah, the matcha has to go first. Matcha definitely has to go first. Oh, so you have an order. I'm doing my matcha. You blend your coffee afterwards, you freak. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:24 All right. That's right. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll check in on the world of science, which I haven't checked in on since the last time you were here, Dr. Grant. I have to assume things are going well. Just a steady march upward, up and to the right.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Oh, my sweet Jack. We'll take a quick break, and we'll be right back. The stuff you should know guys have made their own summer playlists of their muscle and podcasts on movies. It's me, Josh, and I'd like to welcome you to the stuff you should know summer movie playlist. What screams summer more than a nice darkened air conditioned theater and a great movie playing right in front of you. Episodes on James Bond, special effects,
Starting point is 00:25:06 stunt men and women, disaster films, even movies that change filmmaking, and many more. Listen to the Stuff You Should Know Summer Movie playlist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Just like great shoes, great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories, and into conversations with characters you'll never forget.
Starting point is 00:25:26 I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Robay, and this is Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from Hello Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts. Every week I sit down with your favorite book lovers, authors, celebrities, book talkers, and more to explore the stories that shape us
Starting point is 00:25:45 on the page and off. I've been reading every Reese's Book Club pick, deep diving book talk theories, and obsessing over book to screen casts for years. And now I get to talk to the people making the magic. So if you've ever fallen in love with a fictional character or cried at the last chapter or passed a book to a friend saying, you have to read this. This podcast is for you. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app. Apple podcasts are wherever you get your podcasts. From iHeart Podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is The Turning, River Road. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life
Starting point is 00:26:33 what that meant. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to ten girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse. Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man and thinking to the point that if I died for him that would be the greatest honor? But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt. For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey. And then he became the prey. Listen to The Turning River Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:27:17 podcasts. Hey everyone, it's Jay Shetty. And on today's episode of On Purpose, I'm joined by four-time Grand Slam champion, Naomi Osaka. What I was dealing with at the time, feeling ashamed, going against everything an athlete stood for. After I pulled out of the French Open, I flew. Cranked as number one in the world in women's singles.
Starting point is 00:27:40 A four-time Grand Slam tennis champ, Naomi Osaka. We would be constantly on the tennis court and I would watch other kids go to summer vacation and I would always think, dang, like, I kind of want to be someone else. What was the feeling like when you won your first Grand Slam at the US Open? When I was growing up, I had dreams of playing Serena
Starting point is 00:28:02 in my first Grand Slam final. It felt like a dream came true. I was just reading comments of people saying that I didn't deserve to win. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. We're back. And this is a study in the loosest sense of the words. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I feel like. Yeah. I mean, look, we love a study. A science study. We love a study finds out something headline. And this was one that had basically been covered over the weekend. It got a lot of coverage was saying that a study of dating app shows that men are always trying to date out of their league and women tend to date with within their own desirability, whatever that means. And I was like, okay, whatever the fuck is this? Yeah, the study it's it comes from a study that was an analysis of like a check dating app and like that like data from like 10,000 like users
Starting point is 00:29:06 heterosexual users. And again, they're CZ Yes, sorry. Yes, we got a lot of locks. Check. Not like just check the country check. Yeah. And again, this is what they said, quote, researchers examining dating app behavior found that men engage in what scientists call quote, aspirational pursuit. This means they consistently have been targeting women who quote are on average considerably more desirable than themselves. Meanwhile, women flooded with
Starting point is 00:29:30 options tend to quote, swipe down slightly toward less popular men. Most aspirational swiping fails to convert into matches, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like study aside, I was like, anytime there's something talking about the dynamics of like men and women dating, I'm like, there's something talking about the dynamics of like men and women dating. I'm like, there's always going to be some wacky bullshit comments section. And when I saw that the New York post had posted this study as a headline, I was like, what's the fucking comment section over here, because I know it's going to
Starting point is 00:29:56 be an absolute fucking crisis. And this thing has everything it's got pickup artists, bullshit, straight up misogyny, antisemitism, all because the study pointed out that maybe men are a little out of touch in the era of online dating. No, the cut, the cover of this study, by the way, as a picture of the guy from revenge of the nerds with his glasses fogging up and then like the, there's a little windshield wipers that come onto his glasses to clear
Starting point is 00:30:25 them out. Cause he's a nerd. And so you invent stuff. I, first of all, I, I, I'm not going to speak on the veracity of this analysis because I've never used a dating app in my life. I was out of the game before that real height of dating app use, but I'm also like, this study also was taken from data. It comes from July of 2017.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I'm like, that's a different world. We're seven years old. Look, that's someone who's unmarried, unlike you guys who succeeded. Took you a while to, I was trying to lob this one up for you, Blair. I will have to say that we don't have to worry about that study being back in 2017.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I'm here to reassure you that that data is absolutely sound, hard, hard data that is cannot be refuted in twenty twenty five. OK. And but conversely, I do have to say I'm only on hinge. I was on Raya like on and off, but like no one ever I get matches, but then no one would ever ask me on a date and you know I already am in a masculine dominated field. I I'm not going to be messaging first at this point What's the point of being a woman? But um With hinge I am still on hinge even though I forget to go on it for three months at a time
Starting point is 00:31:41 But I I will say that all the hinge dates I've ever been on have all been really nice guys. Like I, every guy has been so kind. And I think my profile is extremely sincere. Like I have nothing jokey on there. Like if any comedy people see my profile, I'd honestly be humiliated. It's like looking for the love of my life,
Starting point is 00:32:03 a man who will be my soulmate husband and be the father of dreams to my children. And so like I, it's just since serious book. So, but I think because of that, I have only gone on dates with like the nicest people, like I've truly never had a horror, a horror story. Well, the, the, a lot of the comments here are from clearly lonely people or angry boomers who are like, it was not like this. He said it was the internet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Is there internet comments? What are they like? I'm just like, it's so wild. Again, the thing was very at the end, the conclusion is people tend to be happier if they're a little more realistic about like their Desirability or where it like rather than going for maybe they're like sort of sexual Desires that are just they're acting out and who they're picking as a mate But some of these comments this is so like all of them
Starting point is 00:32:56 It's some version of like the New York Post is trying to fucking destroy white men is sort of like the Yeah quote you'll never hear anyone telling women to lower their standards. This is again, like the first thing that they're talking about. Yeah, famously progressive New York Post. Right. Always so kind and fair to women. Yeah. They said they're always encouraged to aim for the high-
Starting point is 00:33:23 I'm going to do it in a New York Post accent. I'm sorry, this is how I'm reading this thing. Please. They're always encouraged to aim for the high I'm gonna do it in a New York Post accent I'm sorry This is how I'm reading this way They're always encouraged to aim for the highest fruit on the tree of life. No matter how unrealistic Meanwhile men are constantly told to quote settle lower their expectations and accept whatever comes their way Society treats male standards like a threat and if you dare to have them you're labeled toxic or entitled. Okay Yeah, who wrote that article? A school shooter?
Starting point is 00:33:46 Just just a man by the name of Jay. Yeah, Jay. Yeah, no, I think. Look, I don't like to think too deeply about this stuff, because I think that ultimately we're trying to open our hearts and find the soulmate. You know, it's not about looks and all this stuff. And so that is a downside of the apps but The other hand that was that the kids Would any of these dudes be actually approaching a 12 in the bar
Starting point is 00:34:21 No, they wouldn't so I mean if they want to shoot their shot online, behind the safety of their screen, who knows? That's what the researchers are kind of like sort of getting to. They're like, it's much easier for a person to do this when it's completely disconnected from like a physical interaction. And it's more like, I like this. I don't like this. I like this.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Whereas, yeah, like in public, it's a much, you know, our, I think, at least for me, I was very, very like, reluctant to approach people because I just didn't like the awkwardness of it. And I had to get over that. It's 100%. And I will also say that men have infinitely way more confidence than women. Like, you know, if a woman no matter how hot she is She's a really hot guy like they're intimidated because there aren't that many hot guys women are just more attractive in general, you know so I
Starting point is 00:35:17 Don't know No, I mean you looked right at me when you said that and I Guys at me when you said that. And I didn't. I didn't hurt that many hot guys. I saw a lot of hot guys. You lied. There's like, okay go ahead. It does just feel like this is generally like a worse way to organize a
Starting point is 00:35:36 people, like just people in general like aren't, like they're not in as many relationships as they used to be. People aren't having sex as much as they used to be. People aren't having sex as much as they used to be. It feels like there's just a lot of ways in which people are just, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. This puts you at a remove and then you're just like, I don't know, fucking gaming people.
Starting point is 00:35:58 It's also funny to read the comments of the people who are sexually frustrated on dating apps and see how they communicate themselves. Yeah. of the people who are sexually frustrated on dating apps and like see how they communicate themselves. Yeah. It's like, oh, wait, this isn't working? This thing where you're saying DEI comes to dating. How about you stop being a gold diggin' emotional train wreck, wannabe men, ladies.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Yeah, thanks Matt. Wait, that guy's not nailing it? No, no, no. I don't. Wait, that guy's not nailing it. Yeah. No, drama. I don't want any, and I don't want any woman coming after me looking for a free dinner. You know, like all this stuff. I'm like, honey, I love that you're worried about gold diggers when you make 15 grand a year. You know?
Starting point is 00:36:40 You never know. You never know. Well, again, because that's like a lot of people just ingesting all of that content. And again, not being not in practice experiencing that in the real world. Like a lot of people just hear this kind of should be like, that's how the world is like for you even though. I don't really get out. I don't really talk to anybody. I don't know. I know you can imagine, though.
Starting point is 00:36:58 There's another one. This is just real quick. The guy that I just read, the D.I. comes to dating. How about you stop being gold diggin emotional trait? That that guy put his first and last name on the. I know. I just read, the DEI comes to dating. How about you stop being gold diggin' emotional trait? That guy put his first and last name on the phone. I know. Of course. He signed that shit in bold. That's how unselfaware they are.
Starting point is 00:37:10 It's so crazy. There's one that's a guy named Nelson and he leaves a terrible one. He's like, now men need to seek Sherman prosecutions against monopolistic practices from dating companies, hegemons that run on certain group politics and essentially defame men who don't align with politics promoted by the hegemony and often their unlawful collaborations with defamatory and unconscious operations by the FBI
Starting point is 00:37:33 and local authorities before questioning this. Realize first who is telling you signed Nelson, the guy who signed the comment. Nelson, you need to go outside, babe. You need to go outside. There's no, there's dangerous brown people outside I read it here in the New York Post I'm fine Also first and last name on that one. Yeah, again, it's cuz it's boomer comments They're like links to their fucking Facebook's. Yeah, that guy has an ed sex in like 15 years. It also like um, it depends on what you're looking for with dating like I Definitely give a lot of chances not a lot. I'm pretty busy but um to people where I'm like, oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:38:14 I'm not looking at that guys but I think that's the difference between men and women like women are able to see like the totality of a person like I Go on dates with guys all the time where I'm not like wowed by They're like, oh my god, that's the hottest guy they're seeing but I'm like, oh, maybe they're a great person Maybe they would end up being the love of my life Well, I think the other part is too like I used to be so superficial when I did I only wanted to date people that were like me where it's like do you like the same shows? Do you like the same music and I was not, I was not experiencing like the fullest breath of life because I
Starting point is 00:38:49 was kind of like really interested in people, the exact same things. And by expanding just my horizons to be like, okay, maybe this person doesn't like the exact same shit I liked that there's something more to that. And then you kind of begin to understand what companionship means to you. It wasn't like they got to like Breaking bad or my life's going to suck. It's like, oh, they deeply care about me. I'm I feel comfortable enough around this person to be vulnerable. Like those are like the things that I realized over time.
Starting point is 00:39:14 I'm like, oh, that's that's actually when you you feel like you're like, I want to die with this person. That's what I want rather than do they like belly? It takes a long time to learn that stuff, you know? Do they like belly is like how my seven year old, not even my nine year old, how my seven year old takes his friends. He's just like, do they like the specific type of Legos that I like? Then we're good.
Starting point is 00:39:40 But if they don't, we have some work to do like honestly, we're like it can still work out But like we we need to work at this relationship. Yeah, find a companion find a companion. He doesn't like Ninjago Oh, he doesn't like Ninjago dad. Kick him out. He just didn't like to kick him out Her parents aren't picking him up for another two hours. I don't care. Get him out All right, I I think this is like a somewhat related story so in start picking them up for another two hours. I don't care. Get them out. All right. I, I think this is like a somewhat related story. So in the context of the CEO and the head of HR getting caught in a, in an embrace at the Coldplay show, immediately like diving through a window to try and
Starting point is 00:40:22 deny the reality of what we all witnessed. People, Wired wrote an article where they're like, this is actually part of a growing trend, a boom in online private investigators who people hired to be like, I think my spouse is cheating, can you look into this? Then they post the results, like on, they'll, they'll blur the person's face, but they will show like the person getting caught.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, and like, on the one hand, it's usually women PI doing it for a woman who thinks their spouse is cheating in, at least the people that's covered in this article, which I think is crucial and makes it much more harmless than otherwise, than like just basically the social media equivalent of that TV show Cheaters. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. This is fake.
Starting point is 00:41:18 But it just, it also, they're like, yeah, all of the people we interviewed for this article have their private investigators licensing and seem to be doing it from a perspective of like, we want to give women a place that feels safe where they can look into things and not have to hire a guy in a trench coat who's also trying to sleep with them or whatever. Oh, this guy's a scumbag. Anyway, you like lasagna? Dick Tracy. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:48 The men who get into being private investigators, that's like, I can't imagine what that crew looks like. They're like all former criminals. Yeah. That feels like a New York Post comment too. It's like, fellas, ever since I became a PI, I've been doing great with dating. Just the tips. You're like, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:42:11 But I do feel like it's another thing where we're, you know, at a remove, everybody's kind of lonely. Everybody's experiencing the world at a remove and through like digital interfaces. And so like we're consuming this shit just to like feel Schadenfreude. I guess it's the same thing that people used to experience through gossiping at work in person, but it does feel like if it becomes less and less regulated and more and more just like fucking, I watch Andrew Tape videos and I'm also going to be a PI. I feel like that could go in a very dark direction. Oh, like the perspective in which you try to uncover,
Starting point is 00:42:50 quote, the truth for people to help them. Yes. Sure. I have a few thoughts on this. I think this is really a lot of this is about the past five years of people deciding the growing unrest against billionaires, we saw it with the submarine explosion, all that, and it started to go. The fact that this guy is a billionaire because-
Starting point is 00:43:11 Well, the submarine explosion is a great example. I've been using just Luigi Mangione and this CEO guy, but yeah, the submarine example also. No, because here's the thing. Women get so angry about cheating, but you're not gonna see men across the country like going nuts about a dude cheating. They're like, okay, that's like-
Starting point is 00:43:34 That guy's baller. Yeah, yeah, that guy's baller. But that in combination, yeah, I think people were like, oh, and it was just so public and brazen. Like, you know, this wasn't like someone getting caught cheating. Like when photos, when they're like getting paparazzi found them, like getting out of a car. Yeah, yeah. Like this isn't the most public forum.
Starting point is 00:43:59 So it just felt more brazen, like like a thing. You know, I think like that shot in Florida, I think a lot of it, like, to your point, like Blair is that just generally we feel so powerless in terms of what like the wealthy do that any kind of any kind of comeuppance is going to be embraced immediately because you feel like, I just want to see some fucking accountability fucking somewhere, you know, because I feel like, I just want to see some fucking accountability fucking somewhere, you know, because I feel like a lot of that is sort of simmering underneath a lot of like, you know, especially in our society is like, where's the accountability for people that are
Starting point is 00:44:34 actually like affecting our lives negatively, truly in a tangible way. And I think so when the CEO sort of category of person kind of intersects with that. And then when you see that you're like, yeah, exactly. Yeah, fuck you. I got no sympathy for this motherfucker. And now you get so hungry for it that will like allow it to be a submarine implosion that like killed a bunch of other people will still be like, ah, fucking CEO piece of shit. Not me. Like I can't, like I, I still, my friends are like, yeah, I just, I can't, like, I still, my friends are like, I just, I can't celebrate like people dying like that.
Starting point is 00:45:08 But I do not think this country cares about extramarital cheating in the way that the reaction to this, it's much more about him being a billionaire. No, it's the humiliation. Yes, and the Trump, Trump culture where it feels like, oh, there's just no laws for these guys. Like they're truly running over society. The Elon, like all the whole Elon Musk mess for the last year or two.
Starting point is 00:45:33 And yeah, I just think it brought a lot of people feeling like they could take power back by witnessing that. Also, the way they freaking dove out of the way. Yeah, this was exactly I will be vulnerable with you for one moment. that. Also, the way they frickin dove out of the way. This was exactly I will be vulnerable with you for one moment. I was pulling I'm not proud of this, but I was pulling into my parents neighborhood. You know, we got a lot of like family emergencies happening. And I text my mom pulling up and a cop
Starting point is 00:46:01 drove by me and instead of putting my phone down slightly, up and a cop drove by me and instead of putting my phone down slyly, I threw it. Like I was that goddamn CEO and like was at the least like cool you could be in that situation and immediately got pulled over and got a ticket and I was like, and I was like, Oh, rightfully so. Absolutely. And the, and I was like crying because I was upset about my brother. And I was like, he was so nice to me. And I was like, you have a really nice bedside manner
Starting point is 00:46:33 for being an evil demon, you know? I didn't say the demon part, but I meant to be like, for being a cop. It's still a cab. For being a fucking, yeah, for being a fucking pig. Yeah. You fear you break out of your car. And I mean, I'm so sorry that you're a fucking pig,
Starting point is 00:46:51 motherfucker, fuck, give me my fucking ticket. Also, is it okay if I get out of my car to pick up my phone? I know I threw it out the window while we were. I do really believe, and look, I have been wrong before because of my autism, about, I have been wrong before because of my autism. Um, about I've been wrong maybe 1 million times, but, um, I do believe this was the one nice cop in existence.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Sure. Sure. Sure. Yeah. You found, you found that cop. It's just a few bad ones out there. It is. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Or are spooling the whole bunch. Except for Mariska Hargitay. Yeah. That's right. Right. Exactly. I remember growing up, there was a cop that came to our neighborhood for a block party and did the Macarena.
Starting point is 00:47:29 He was all right. Or those cops, those stories where it's like an old person commits a crime. Because they're like whatever and they come back and make them dinner or something because they were hungry. You're like, oh, that's good. That's a good cop. Good job. The thing was that cop, it was just this stripper who lived in the neighborhood who had a coffee in a foreign
Starting point is 00:47:50 home because he had way too much honey in those hips when he was in the Macarena. Oh my God, Miles. Yeah, he had a body roll to the Macarena. Honey in the hips. Yeah. I didn't know until later on, my mom was like, you know, that was a stripper, right? That wasn't an actual cop. No, for real?
Starting point is 00:48:04 Oh. I don't tell cop. No, for real. I don't tell I don't tell tales. No, I'm lying. Oh, okay. It was a fucking. Oh my God, Jack. Even I knew that one. Wait, for real. Wait, Blair was the person who pulled you over with a stripper.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Was that a stripper? I believe more strippers should be men is my personal belief. Absolutely. Anytime I see a dude properly hit a body roll. I'm like, Oh, they were stripper. There's too many people are too fucking stiff with the body roll. At the very least men need to be body rolling harder, sexier. And I like a man being objectified in a workplace setting.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah. Speaking of objectified in a workplace setting, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about that Sydney Sweeney campaign. We'll be right back. The stuff you should know guys have made their own summer playlists of their muscle and podcasts on movies. It's me, Josh, and I'd like to welcome you to the Stuff You Should Know summer movie playlist. What screams summer more than a nice, darkened, air-conditioned theater and a great movie
Starting point is 00:49:14 playing right in front of you? Episodes on James Bond, special effects, stunt men and women, disaster films, even movies that change filmmaking, and many more. Listen to the Stuff You Should Know Summer Movie playlist on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Just like great shoes, great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories
Starting point is 00:49:35 and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Robay, and this is Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from Hello Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts. Every week I sit down with your favorite book lovers, authors, celebrities, book talkers, and more to explore the stories that shape us, on the page and off. I've been reading every Reese's Book Club pick, deep diving book talk theories, and
Starting point is 00:50:03 obsessing over book to screen casts for years. And now I get to talk to the people making the magic. So if you've ever fallen in love with a fictional character or cried at the last chapter or passed a book to a friend saying, you have to read this, this podcast is for you. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. For my heart podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is the turning river road. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant.
Starting point is 00:50:49 In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse. Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man and thinking to the point that if I died for him, that would be the greatest honor. But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt. For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey. And then he became
Starting point is 00:51:21 the prey. Listen to The Turning, River Road, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, it's Jay Shetty and on today's episode of On Purpose, I'm joined by four-time Grand Slam champion Naomi Osaka. What I was dealing with at the time, feeling ashamed, going against everything an athlete stood for. After I pulled out of the French Open, I flew.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Pranked as number one in the world in women's singles. A four-time Grand Slam tennis champ, Naomi Osaka. We would be constantly on the tennis court and I would watch other kids go to summer vacation and I would always think, dang, like, I kind of want to be someone else. What was the feeling like when you won your first Grand Slam at the US Open? When I was growing up, I had dreams of playing Serena in my first Grand Slam final.
Starting point is 00:52:16 It felt like a dream came true. I was just reading comments of people saying that I didn't deserve to win. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And I didn't even know about this happening in my own dang city.
Starting point is 00:52:41 There's a Elon Musk Tesla diner. Were you aware of this, Miles? Were you one of the people in the 100, there's a Elon Musk Tesla diner. Were you aware of this, Miles? Were you one of the people in the 100 deep line? Yeah, I was first in line. First in line. You came for your Epic Bacon? Hell yeah, for $12. No, wait, hold on, was that a joke?
Starting point is 00:52:58 Is Epic Bacon on the menu? Epic Bacon is on the menu, and we will get to how epic it is, Carmen. My sweet summer child. So he's like just fucking up increasingly like things that could be cool. Like he fucked up Twitter, fucked up space travel, fucked up self-driving cars, fucked up fatherhood.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Fucked up. Yeah, he fucked up using your child as a human shield. Fucked up his robot penis. Fucked up like sex. He made sex like awful. Like it's really hard to fuck up sex, but he's human shield. Fucked up his robot penis. Fucked up like sex. He made sex like awful. It's really hard to fuck up sex, but he's like mailing. Fucked up grimes. Let's say that.
Starting point is 00:53:30 He's reaching out to people on social media. Fucked up grimes big time. Reaching out to people on social media and being like, can I mail you my sperm? Like it sucks so bad. Yeah. Anyways, he is now coming for diners, which like- God damn it. That was the fucking, the guy with the spiky hairs job.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Right. Yeah, Guy Fieri. Guy Fieri. That was his job. Yeah. He's too busy being in the Adam Santlin Happy Gilmore 2 sequel. How is it? He has a, it's, there's just, again, there's too many cameos in it.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Range? No, it's range. Start the tournament again, there's too many cameos in it. Range? He's like, start the tournament! And then they just go and you're like, whatever. The big takeaway I'm hearing is that Bad Bunny is like one of our great actors. Bad Bunny has range. She has comedic range. Bad Bunny, I mean, he was, like, I watched that Bullet Train movie with Brad Pitt.
Starting point is 00:54:21 He was pretty good in that. Was he? Yeah. Bad Bunny, like, just looks Was he? Oh, I gotta watch that. Bad Bunny just looks great on camera, which I guess shouldn't surprise me. Eminem looks like spooky shit in it. Spooky shit? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Hey man, you look like spooky shit. Are you okay? Thanks, bro. It's the dyed beard. Anyways, he's coming for the diner, which should be pretty difficult to fuck up, but this man is, the one be pretty difficult to fuck up, but this man is the one genius he has is fucking up everything.
Starting point is 00:54:51 So open to diner in Hollywood, which is like this retro futurist kind of greasy spoon that our writer Jam says should be described as would have planted Hollywood was an incel UFO. Fucking facts. And all the losers were there instead of all the celebrities. Oh my God. Yeah, exactly. And yeah, look, whoa, look, that's some other asshole charging their cyber truck there. Sweet. Oh my God. So did he build this exterior like that it was not already existing in LA?
Starting point is 00:55:24 No, this is not. This is, this is, it does look like it could be something. Yeah. I know you know how like there's like, oh, that was clearly an old like retro, you know, he like built the, okay. Yeah. He built this. Yeah. It's like, what if like he took the same unsubtle approach he took to Cybertrux and like did that with like, Polygon. Okay, this should be like circular. What if we did circular diner?
Starting point is 00:55:50 Mm-hmm. Open on July 21st, lineup of nearly 100 people, which as somebody who drives around Los Angeles, like who, you know, I have to drive down Melrose every once in a while to like, I'm sorry, pick up my kids from camp and there is a line, there are line, lineups of nearly 100 people everywhere all the time. For a daycare pickup. That's true. On Melrose especially, especially if you're getting your Crescent Heights.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Yeah. Yeah. Not just, not just daycare, no, but I mean, just on Melrose, like just like for brunch or for- It's just like hype shit and all or for, yeah, just hype shit. Anyways, food is served in cyber truck shaped boxes, which some customers wore as hats. Because these people are fucking morons. So they ate the food from the box and then they put the, why am the epic bacon in it and they put the epic
Starting point is 00:56:49 bacon grease on their head. The epic bacon is actually a smaller container. It would be hard to put. You could make those mittens if you really wanted, but not so much a hat. From behind the pass in the kitchen, Greenspan shouted customer orders. Epic bacon, tuna melt, grilled cheese. Epic bacon. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Fuck Eric Greenspan too, the fucking chef who's running this. You fucking loser. He's like, this is a collab. I remember people were like, bro, why are you working with this fucking Nazi? Like, what's your fucking deal? It's like, this is a collaboration, dude. But he just fucking sucks, dude. He had a shitty grilled cheese restaurant on Melrose.
Starting point is 00:57:26 I fucking hate it. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm like, food takes. So, uh, people seemed really excited that the Tesla diner will be selling four strips of quote epic bacon for $12. $3 a strip. Well, hold on Carmen, Jack described the bacon that you sell for $12.
Starting point is 00:57:45 So let me get down to where somebody actually had it. So somebody went viral because they just like went to the thing and took a picture of what the Epic bacon looked like next to like what they advertise it as. And it's, it's a perfect metaphor for something. It was billed as four strips of maple glazed black pepper bacon served with choice of dip because everyone who lives on planet earth that's a bacon loving normie knows you gotta dip your bacon in sauce. The epic bacon, that's like 15 years old now.
Starting point is 00:58:23 I know right, like that trend. That's like me in 20 now. I know, right? That trend. That's like me and 20 years with my Labooboo. Everyone is going to be like, what are you doing, bitch? Stop it with the Labooboo. I mean, yes, you just eaten a bunch of epic bacon too with your Labooboo right now. Yes. How did you know? So yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:39 That's my Saturday night. So the bacon itself was chewy, not crunchy. Of course. It comes in like a fry, you know, like a McDonald's fry container. Yeah. You know, like one of the cardboard sleeves. Polygon shape. And the picture, yeah, polygonal. Polygonal. Yes. Polygonal, yeah. Like, and it has like the bacon, just these thick, thick old, chunky slices of bacon pouring out of it on the, uh, you know, image that they sell you on it with. And then the actual bacon is like so sad.
Starting point is 00:59:14 There's like one tiny little curl of bacon, like peaking up over the- That's erect enough to actually be prominent in the thing. I mean, again, this is exactly Elon Musk's whole fucking schtick is like, look at this thing that I'm saying is cool in its presentation. Oh, but once you buy it, it's gonna be the absolute shittiest version of the thing I said it was gonna be.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Yeah, yeah, electric sauce, by the way, another thing that's just a perfect metaphor. That's just relabeled Chipotle mayo. Chipotle mayo? Yeah, it's just Chipotle mayo. That's another fucking 15-year-old food flavor trick. Hey, have you heard of this Chipotle mayo? Electric sauce. Have you tried Elon's electric sauce?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Dude, get the fuck away from me. You've got to get the electric sauce with Epic Bacon, bro. I'm just so glad that people are protesting in front of this thing. Because while there are some people dumb enough to appear in public patronizing this place, there are plenty of people who are just like, yeah, this is the Nazi diner. Is this what you fucking want? Also, it's a fucking nuisance to the people that live nearby. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:19 And it pisses me. And I know Jamie talks about, has talked about this on the pod before, but pisses me off to know, Ann, that those people that are going and standing in line here and also buying the blue checks on Twitter, they think that they are like punk or whatever, because they think that they, now that, they think that they're on like the fringe of like, you know, public belief.
Starting point is 01:00:43 And it's so infuriating to me. Like, y'all are so stupid. You're literally yuppies. You're stupid. Like, ugh! Anyway. Yeah, I mean, it's just so funny too, of like, if, even if they, it's like, oh, you think you're punk?
Starting point is 01:00:57 You're like, okay, tell me about punk music. Tell me about the, tell me about the history of punk rock. Right. Because was that a bunch of people being like, we love Lee Iacocca We love the government Margaret Thatcher, are you fucking stupid? This is the antithesis y'all are fucking out here Just being like we love Margaret Thatcher basically. Yeah cool, man. That's fucking sick dog. That's so fucking sick
Starting point is 01:01:20 Cool, cool. Cool. I mean there were like I do I think You know I mean, there were like, I do, I think, you know, we've been predicting for a long time that like the eighties were coming back where like it was seen as cool. And like, I think that's what it is. It's like all the fucking yuppies, like you said, Carmen are just like back. And they're like, it's actually cool to be this, to be a fan of rich people. I bought in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:38 It's really epic. They also have like drive-in movie theaters. I don't know. It's really epic. Mm-hmm. They also have like drive-in movie theaters. I don't know. It's like-
Starting point is 01:01:50 For Tesla? Yes. Yeah, you can charge your car and like watch a movie while eating the world's shittiest food there. But- Like the Twitter, like the Twitter posts about the people who like live nearby, like this thing, like people were likening it to the Seinfeld Kenny Rogers roasters episode.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Yeah. Where the fucking like the lights were just like blasting into people's apartments. And they're like, what the fuck, man? Like I can't, and it's loud. It's, it's all fucked up. Just like when he put the X sign up, it lit up the whole fucking where was that? Yeah. And people were like, get this shit down. Like, are you fucking stupid?
Starting point is 01:02:28 Again, this makes sense that a person who has no concept that other people exist on planet Earth that have like a right to peace would just build this like monstrosity that has fans to keep their gigantic LED screen cool, like making it just like miserable for the people who live next door. Oh, well, that's owning the libs. Like if you're miserable, you're a lib and they're owning the libs.
Starting point is 01:02:52 It's called owning a business, yeah. I actually like that I can't even hear the helicopters anymore because of how loud the fan is that's cooling the giant LED screen. Yeah, one reviewer was left feeling mildly nauseated after the meal, which would make sense since people have taken photos of boxes of frozen products and milk sitting out in the dry, the parking lot in July heat. What's the, I really want to know what their food safety rating is,
Starting point is 01:03:23 like the kitchen score, you know? I mean, I'm sure to know what their food safety rating is, like the kitchen score, you know? I mean, I'm sure he pays for that, pays for a night. Good point. All right. Let's end on some good news. Okay. Ocelots, which are like really cool jungle cats and possums, which are-
Starting point is 01:03:41 My mother's favorite. They're a marsupial. A marsupial, kind of nasty looking, by some standards. Others would call them cute, but they have faces from hell, kind of. Which, they have faces from hell. That's okay, I got to, my mother taught me. I think they're adorable. My mother taught me to pull up for the opossum.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Their faces get fucked up because they can't see and they experience the world with they lead with their face So that's why that shit is the first thing getting mashed up if you see out the fucking fresh out the box, baby Fresh out the box Is in one of those spacesuits one of the spacesuits They do immaculate suits. I like that. I like they just see it's incredible to me that this creature has managed to survive this long.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Like you said, they're blind and leading with their face to the extent that like they just looked fucked up all the time. I, we have one in our yard and he just watching him like waddle across the yard. It's just like, how has this thing ever gotten away from anything ever? Right. And I guess the answer is like by playing dead, which again is my response is my trauma response. So I admire it. It just doesn't always work so well for me, but apparently the possum is out here surviving. And another way that they're surviving is by making friends. So everyone was like, yeah, I mean, an ocelot would be the natural predator
Starting point is 01:05:13 of a possum and yet there are cameras, trail cameras in the Amazon rain forest who keep capturing ocelot possum, like buddy cop duo pairings just like Pallowing around wait a minute. I'm looking into this. I'm doing some research. Oh here. I'm I can play a video here I'm transvestite. I was less are cool as fuck They are they're like spotted jungle cat. It's cool because like the possum I in my mind I'm like, maybe the possum would trail the ocelot but the possum like come on man we're going over here What do we get into hey let's go Possum can smell stuff that maybe the ocelot doesn't
Starting point is 01:05:56 So one of the theories is that the possum is using the ocelot scent To hide themselves from large predators. So like a chemical camouflage. So a beard, if you will. Right. That doesn't really make sense because the ocelot would be one of the presumed predators. So as for what the ocelot is getting out of the relationship, there's a theory that the possums are resistant to snake venom, which the ocelot is not.
Starting point is 01:06:31 So the ocelot is like a lead blocker for snakes where like a snake gets them and then they're just like, fuck out of here. Oh, the possum is the lead blocker. The possum is resistant to snake venom. Oh, that's the full backed. Yeah. So he's there in, you know, this is the fucking Amazon rainforest. So obviously there are a lot of snakes that will kill you dead. And the osla is just out here kind of laying back as the possum gets bit.
Starting point is 01:07:03 And then they're like, okay, don't go that direction. He's like, Hey, you good? You good? is just out here kind of laying back as the possum gets bit. And then they're like, okay, don't go that direction. He's like, hey, you good? You good? Oh, fuck! The fucker bit me right in my jugular. Yeah, I'm all right. All right, let's go over here. Let's see if someone over here, man. So I like, so the ocelot might be using the possum really.
Starting point is 01:07:20 It's just like, yeah, motherfucker, oh. So the possum is in an abusive relationship with the possum. That's what it is. That's what it's like. It's just like, yeah, motherfucker, uh... So the possum is in an abusive relationship with the possum. In other words. That's what it... Like, that is the way that humans always interpret animal anything, is like, okay, it's life and death, and they're just using each other as tools. But also, like, I've seen enough videos where, like, you know, a family happens to have a dog, like a big dog and a tiny kitten
Starting point is 01:07:47 and like the big dog like loves the kitten. Like, is that because it like thinks it can use the kitten as like a bear, bear bait or something? Like, it's just like, no, it's just like animals are like, can be like sweet to one another every once in a while. Man, what concept, Jack. That's, you should write a children's book, Jack, about animals can be sweet to one another every once in a while. Man, what concept, Jack. That's, you should write a children's book, Jack, about animals. Animals can be sweet to one another.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Yes, animals can be sweet to one another. Yeah, maybe, yeah, that'll help as a metaphor that like humans are like, we're not, we don't have to be transactional. We can just kind of fuck with people and enjoy. It's true. But like, yeah, the fact that we can't even look at nature without being like, how, how are they making wine go up on their amount of their capacity for survival? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Maybe they're embracing AI to do more innovation. To like another possibility where people are just nice. I was like, maybe this is, I'm glad they have multiple examples rather than like just this one. Cause it would be funny if they're like, yeah, actually the ocelot was playing the long game with that motherfucker, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:54 They can fuck out of him after a week. I bet the ocelot maybe defends his, the possums babies. I'm just gonna say that. That would be adorable. Yeah. There's like even video where like, that I'm sure the scientists were like,
Starting point is 01:09:05 all right, finally the jig is up where like the ocelot is like batting at the possum, but then the possum bats back and they're like clearly playing. My dogs are, you know, this makes me think of my dogs who are deathly afraid of any dog that is like, they're very aware of their size and any dog that is like slightly bigger of them they're afraid of, and I'm always trying to convince them to make friends because like, this is an example, you want big friends out there in the jungle, you know? Oh, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:09:36 So. I do just play dead. I, you know. I wonder if that's how it happened, is like the possum like played dead and the oslo was like, come on fam. Like. Right. You're not dead. the oslo was like, come on fam. Right. I would love that.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I would love that. But I'm not, you actually look kind of nasty to me. I'm not trying to eat you. Our writer, Katie Golden, pointed out that this might actually just be viral marketing for Zootopia 2. Oh, oh my God. A body cop comedy in which a fox and a rabbit team up to solve racism. Genius call, writer.
Starting point is 01:10:10 They could be. They could be. That new trailer just dropped. I've been listening to too much DMX that when you kept saying my dogs, my dog is like, my dogs is with it. You want it? Come and get it. My dogs is with it. You want it? Come and get it. And I was like, okay, nevermind. We're not doing a Rough Riders anthem reference here. All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist.
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