The Daily Zeitgeist - WeekTrend Update 2: Indictment Boogaloo 6/12: Trump Indictment, Tony Awards, I-95 Collapse

Episode Date: June 12, 2023

In this edition of WeekTrend Update 2: Indictment Boogaloo, Jack and Miles discuss Trump's second (and more serious) indictment and how he might be able to weasel his way out from under it, the 100% "improvised" live 2023 Tony Awards, and the I-95 collapse in PhiladelphiaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What are we doing to get past like 5 when we don't, like those naming conventions for like multiple sequels die out? We'll give up on it. Maybe, or it's like, Weak Trend Update 16. Not what I mean. Weak Trend Update X. X, X. I was having some fun Roman numeral conversations

with my kids this weekend. Wow. Dude, your kids are on Roman numerals already? Our seven-year-old is a real math guy. Wow. Oh, and he's into history and stuff, so he's probably seeing Roman numerals, and he's like, what is this stuff? It's like, are these letters?

I found out, by the way. I gave his school credit for teaching him the truth about... Oh, World War II? World War II. It wasn't his school. It was his Eastern European chess tutor, who we work with online. We do Zoom lessons, and she's the one she was like

teaching a military strategy yeah oh intro is part of like chat oh man he's on that chess life too he's real yeah he destroys me in chess that's really embarrassing are you like afraid he's just like he's like an ai who's just gonna to like consume you at a certain point. Like he's so advanced. He's in a Roman numerals. He's chess champion. He's, he already knows about the truth about World War II. I caught him mirroring me out of the corner of my eye and just like kind of adopting a bunch of gestures that I'm doing.

I don't know if that's just how parenting works or if he is going to just take me over. Yeah. That's our fate. You know, we always become our parents on some level. Dark fate. Which movie has a dark fate movie? Is that Transformers?

I don't know. There's no way to know. Terminator? Terminator. Terminator. Yes. That's so sad that the Terminator franchise is indistinguishable from Transformers. Transformers in my brain.

Transformers had a good showing at the domestic box office this weekend. That was basically all that happened. Not much else since we last spoke to you guys. Was it Bafo or no? No, it wasn't Bafo. It performed above very limited expectations and beat Bafo. Bafo zero. Bafo Miles. It performed above very limited expectations and beat Dive Bafo. Bafo Zero.

Yeah, it beat Across Spider-Verse's second weekend, which a lot of people didn't think it was going to do. I told you, man, that movie, the idea of robotic animals makes no sense, but really hits the seven-year-old brain correctly

just explodes it i think the other thing i read was that the across the spider verse it already made all the money that the into the spider verse made yeah it did it just by the second week oh okay this is a good yeah because i think maybe i think people slept on the first one a little bit for sure like it was one of those things that after that, I was one of those people who came late to the party and was like, this is fucking, this is amazing. Yeah. I didn't go to the Caitlin Durante because she was super onto that was,

uh, evangelical about getting people to see that first one. And I can't wait to have her on to hear her thoughts on the second. She's done it. Anyway, we have, uh, we have plans to see the to see the second across Spider-Verse this weekend. So still haven't seen it, but when you have kids,

it takes like a whole, a whole planning thing. I hear you, Jack. I hear you, man. This is dad talk. Increasingly,

this show is dad talk. I did see, by the way, past lives this past weekend. So good. My brain doesn't like, I can't even talk about it but i was crying in the theater uh yeah it was it was really good i highly recommend all right but the big news from the weekend he got indicted folks he's uh double as you said trump indicted double lp world excited yeah but you know what not so fast lips not so fucking fast because i know we saw it and i remember thursday night i was like oh shit but

part of me was like let's see the indictment come out let's see everything and like then we'll i'll figure out how i feel about it so 37 counts dealing with obstruction the espionage act for our boy donnie and also his body man walt nauda who's like these transcripts just read as like him be like move the boxes there get him away here move them over there break the law break the law for me dude the indictment is wild in that they are basically using all of just his trump's own words and the words of like his own people against him is like the most damning evidence it's not like from you know like outside investigators like no he said this then he did this then this is what his lawyer said um and the pictures of like where the documents were held or like like a parody of

themselves because people were saying like they were just in these like legal boxes strewn about like in a bathroom, in a shower stall, on a ballroom stage. And the pictures are like, it looks like some shit I would have done in college. Like would they just be like, yeah, just put everything in the fucking bathroom so nobody can see it for right now. And yeah, we also have a tape of him literally saying like this is secret look at it yeah like on wax too you gotta check it out i used to be like i could declassify these when i was president now not so much indicating that this thing is not declassified therefore you probably shouldn't look at it and then there's like a apparently there was an aide who after that realization

was like verbalized was like okay so i think we have a problem now uh because even this aide knew it's like you can't those are military plans he's breaking the law in a room with people who are like stop breaking the law this is a law being broken and he's he's yeah he was like almost doing things like you want to see naked pictures of my mother and they're like i don't know but you know this is i don't know why i even mentioned that and that's not that's something i need to see or i'm interested in it's not good yeah it's uh the pictures are amazing the pictures really make me feel better like you said about like my living situation my document my top secret document storage yeah in my life you know just shit lying around there's also the text

there's the text from melania people think it was from melania that was in the indictment where she was like just wanted you to know potus wants to bring theOTUS documents on the flight but we won't have room for them because of luggage um it's just just messy like literally just messy they are messy people sloppy sloppy messy people yeah very sloppy but yeah I mean like you see all that you're like okay this this looks juicy I mean everybody it was funny like on MSNBC all day Friday, they were like giggling, reading the transcripts. Go to page 16. They're like, I'm barely getting through anything right now. Like, and then anyway, they're all celebrating. But I was like, who's going to be the judge?

What? Yeah. What's like? We're like, what are all the details here? So there's tapes from Trump's own fucking lawyer. Two of his lawyers fucking resigned like after the indictment came through and you're like oh shit he barely has any legal representation this is going to get good but the first and most frightening thing that

should keep the liberals out there from dancing in the streets to kings of leon with their npr tote bags uh is to point out the judge who was this i don't know why i picked kings of leon oh man because i was just telling you before we start recording that uh have you heard this song where it's like uh your sex is on fire fire so so edgy so fun uh so you owned me uh yeah while you were you were swinging an npr tote bag over your head crazy dude like what does that mean i do i do do rock my npr tote with a cuff in the crease exactly with a tilted brim uh so the other thing so eileen cannon the judge who was there for the like document scandal when it kicked off that's who he was assigned yeah he's right back with his

own appointee overseeing this trial and i'm pretty sure i think she's younger than you jack yeah she's uh i think like right my age she graduated same yeah graduated the same year that i did from college wow and look at us opposite sides of the coin now. But yeah, like if you remember in the when the document scandal first broke out, she basically did everything in her power to tilt the scale in Trump's favor to the point where like all legal experts, even like conservatives are like, this is a little fucking gross. You know, like this is not good. Like she was like, FBI, you cannot look at the documents documents even though like you this is part of your investigation i'm assigning a special master to try to delay things and then the special phrase special master yeah and then the special master was like uh this is pretty wild like i actually would need to hear from donald trump to kind of explain the context of a lot of this stuff

and she's like no you're not gonna do that and then she went against him and then basically she got like smacked down by an appeals court fucking twice during that whole thing. So now she's here with tremendous power over this trial. And a lot of people like maybe she'll recuse herself. But like she can do it. Dude, she can fucking dismiss the fuck. She can dismiss the case after the prosecution presents their case. And it's unreviewable.

Like she could literally just go like, boom, smoke bomb. It's over. Ha ha. Oh, really? Yeah. She can dismiss the case after the prosecution presents their case and it's unreviewable. Like she could literally just go like, boom, smoke bomb. It's over. Ha ha. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Be like thrown to an appeals court. No, no.

She would basically be taking over like for the jury to basically like, I've seen enough. You didn't present anything that's even like, and that's, that's scary. A lot of people think she won't go that far but like i don't know like everything is on the line for donald trump uh but i mean he has multiple i guess that's why there's multiple cases against him oh and then the other thing is like she could delay the trial till after the election in which case maybe if there's a republican that wins that might come to save trump or maybe trump himself comes to save himself and even just over like the jury selection she can also you know look the other way when there might be clearly like you know someone in like a q anon t-shirt

with like like said that i like i met jfk jr today uh on and she'd be like yeah yeah that person looks good right why not yeah so in the indictments i haven't had a chance to read all 37 pages without like my eyes crossing in boredom. But is there a plan? Like, do they have any motive for why he was holding on to the documents? Like what? Like, I feel like, I don't know, just having lived through and like done this show through the impeachment where what he did was far worse than watergate right he was like basically being like it'd be a shame if you know you didn't get the military aid you need you need to you know try and say biden's corrupt yeah right another example

of cheating on the 2020 election basically but in advance like, we don't really talk about that anymore. It was like that. Yeah. The impeachment just happened. He was impeached and we don't really talk about that anymore. It kind of didn't touch him. So I am just like wondering like, cause he's going to be going full blast.

We'll talk about this clip that he stole from air in a second. He's going gonna be going full blast and like i'm being politically persecuted oh yeah and like i feel like they need to have some narrative like the people who are trying to use this to make him not be the president in 2024 need to like have a story to tell like where he like what he is trying to do in this case that is not just like he was sloppy with documents that nobody like really cares about in in the end you know well that's the thing is they're doing it under this like statute where merely just having them is the crime right you know it doesn't doesn't need to be any other intent with it.

Aside from the fact that it's classified, you can't have them and you have them. And you're also showing willfully that you know you can't have them and you're doing everything you can to like play keep away from investigators when they ask you about boxes. Because like the way like boxes

and documents are trickling down, it just clearly felt there's like okay give them like a little bit of that chunk over there but not the good stuff and say that's it kind of a thing i think the more most cynical one were people saying like who did they sell this to right that's that's what i that's the question that potentially is like the most damning is that like no he held on to this because he knew he could cash this in as like a chip right it seems like for legal purposes what they have right now is enough i think for political purposes it would be really helpful if like

somewhere somewhere along the line they could establish motive or you know some at least like do some reporting to suggest like what was he doing holding on to these other than just it being the equivalent of a evander hollyfield signed boxing glove that he like gets to show off in his office you know i think like his office. They're going for the efficient tidy thing where this is the same thing he was cheering when Reality Winner was also charged under the Espionage Act

and he was like, yeah, you gotta do that. You can't have these documents. They even have him quoting that, even with Hillary Clinton. And they're like, he knows. He knows. He knows you can't have it and he has it. And I think for them trying to prove anything else is maybe a bridge too far when they know it's like bro he we got him right here on this yeah but again i think in the court of public opinion who knows what the

fuck i don't i honestly don't know if that's going to sway anybody because everybody is either like please get him out of here or other people are like i don't care if he's indicted yeah he's my president because i think that there's something like 80 of republicans are truly on the ray j i don't care yeah if he's indicted so i don't know who we're convincing except for maybe like a jury but again this goes back to the trial right there's other dynamics at play just there's like the florida of it all because you're down there you're not in you're like the pool of voters you have there's a good chance i mean it's it's pretty split i mean biden won by like a couple hundred thousand votes but it's gonna be you're gonna have all kinds of interesting people uh in that jury pool and

it's not a far-fetched idea to think all it takes is one MAGA person to, like, get in there and just say, like, I'm going to save Donald Tronk from persecution and just be the holdout who causes, like, a hung jury. And then just like, yeah, all right. So I did my part. So there's a lot of things that still can go wrong for this. I think before people kind of, like, really think. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that this is like open and shut um yeah and here let's take a quick break and we'll we'll be right back we'll keep

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minor compared to like the, he is just shedding Watergate's on a daily basis throughout his presidency, throughout the aftermath of his presidency. It sucks that it's that way. Yeah then like you like you said like it's not going to make a difference to his most mega-brained supporters because you know they're just going to go with them on whatever right like they're gonna say it's it's. This massive scaffolding of conspiracy theories that can hop in and explain anything. Oh, yeah. Like even Jim Jordan, he like he was on CNN not making sense to like defending him on that very similar thing of like, well, I trust the president.

He says it's declassified. Then it is like that's OK. Fine. Yeah. Okay, fine. Yeah, but when it comes to, if he's the actual nominee for the Republican Party, and his whole appeal is that he doesn't follow rules and is anti-establishment,

and this whole case is built around him not following the rules and being anti-establishment, and if we have just you know if people are tired enough of biden seeming to not be able to you know do anything against yeah stay awake uh affect anything against like the big corporate power establishment like i could see there being enough frustration and this i don't know adding to trump's whole appeal like that's why i just i don't know i've always been a little bit dubious of this one other than like showing that he is not a serious person to quote succession you know know, he's,

he's dealing with these documents, like it, like putting them in the ballroom at Mar-a-Lago while they're having parties at Mar-a-Lago and just like using it as a flex, like his, his own personal money phone is like how many classified documents he fucking has. Right.

And so that's crazy it proves he's not serious but like also if it's just sloppiness like he does have the retort that like biden had boxes of classified documents next to his corvette so like it's the it's the willful obstruction of it that that has to come in into effect. And like, I need a reason for the willful obstruction other than him saying, fuck you to the intelligence and security establishment. Um, because I also don't mind someone saying, fuck you to the intelligence and security establishment.

So I don't know. It's just like, it also feels like we've been burned before by these moments where everybody in the mainstream media gets giddy about how fucked trump is and then you know and then yeah it feels like more of the same yeah he's fundraising off of it i totally get that i but i think it's like on one thing right it's like we've seen people go down who are like whistleblowers who are trying to do something for the public good and get slammed on this shit in the same way so it's like on one level you're like what has to

fucking cut both ways like or else this is total bullshit but i think the bigger issue is that this is like a larger political problem right yeah and the reason we're still here too is because the republicans just won't fucking put this dude down like they could like they absolutely could but because he has the power like he has the base they are completely like i guess we just keep fucking going along with this shit as it gets worse and worse and worse but there's so many things that we could be doing outside of just trying to get him in jail that could potentially you know prevent another person like this from coming to power like you know through like

like voting rights and shit like that right so it's kind of it's it's complex in that way but it's also kind of like this feels like this thing where like no one in the political arena wants to do the hard work like of just being like we have to just take all of his influence away and not align ourselves with him and just whatever comes with that comes with that i don't know how potent of a solution that would be but it also feels like again republicans have been waiting for something too just to be like when is this fucking case gonna happen that just fucking rids us of this guy please we don't know any other way to handle this. And yet to your point about like Nixon,

it's like that fucking scene in willow or like they start rolling down the hill, like on the snow. And then it becomes a gigantic snowball by the bottom. Because like, first it starts with Nixon. It's like a couple of things here. And then you get like Reagan and it starts getting fucking wilder.

And then you get like Bush. And then it's like, what the fuck? And then inevitably you get this gigantic snowball in the form of trump where he's like you guys want to see some secret documents you can't see them they're secret anyway this is our plan to attack iran i just sold it to saudi arabia for like three bills don't worry about it like from from a narrative perspective of the cases he's facing, the Georgia case where he legitimately and openly tried to cheat to win the presidential election feels like the one that any possible swing voter who could come over to his side might be compelled by. And the indictments on that one are expected to drop in August. So he's definitely in a lot of trouble.

It's just like we've seen him be impervious to this sort of thing. And none of these indictments affect his ability to run and get votes. None of it. Not a single thing. I think that's the big thing to remember. Because all of his crimes are done so blatantly out in the open. You don't need like discovery or like a trial to begin to understand like what exactly went down. Like he says all this shit out loud and immediately you're either going to be turned off by it and be like, this is absolutely nonsense.

Or you're going to be like, yeah, man, fucking show them. Or are you going to be like, yeah, man, fucking show them. So it's hard to think that even to the point with this, what could be the more appealing or sexier narrative around this documents thing with Mar-a-Lago? It's like, that's not going to matter. Again, you could have him on tape and like, hey, Mohammed bin Salman. So I got these secret documents for you, baby. Got them on a jump drive.

Where should I drop him off where's my duffel bag full of cash selling america's secrets it's just not gonna it won't matter yeah i feel like that one would like if he's actively i i just think there's a difference between him being fuck you to the security establishment and him actively like undermining America's security. So I do, I do feel like it is worthwhile for the investigators or, you know, journalists who are digging in and covering this to establish like what he was doing with them,

why he was doing anything with them other than just like flexing on people. Yeah. I mean, I think the thing many people are pointing out to is like, you know, they're like this, this just puts everybody at risk who tries to get this kind of information uh and so that's like the big ding on on you know trump in that sense yeah but oh one thing i was going to say

is the one of the documents that trump is referencing like in those tapes well his lawyers can't find it so i don't know like it's just gonna fold it up sweatily in his pocket who knows or maybe someone it would be wild though to be to think that like like if he was selling them he's like okay and here's the original copy like you'd think he would just take a picture or something she's like i'll give you the info he's like i'm gonna keep the fucking document though right he's like i'll give you the information but i want that shit yeah so i don't know he maybe he really does have it in his pocket or maybe he it's like stock x like it's it got verified and then now someone from another nation is now holding on to the verified document yeah like i have no doubt

that his brain works in a way that the thing he was trying to do was sell these or you know gain like trade access to them for various favors like that so that's just like what i'm hoping eventually gets revealed here because i think that would undermine him a little bit more than just like you broke the rules you know yeah i think that's the part where they probably don't have maybe don't have enough evidence to to go down that road but again we don't know what they have we only have this like sort of talking indictment that we saw at the end of last week so there's there could be plenty more so who knows but yeah yeah we shall see do you see his use of the quote from the movie air he like took matt Matt Damon's monologue from Air.

I only saw the headlines that said Matt Damon and Ben Affleck were like, we did not consent to this being used. Yeah. Yeah. It was Reagan using born in the USA all over again. But right. Yeah. So the video features dramatic shots of Trump walking next to a helicopter, speaking at rallies,

features dramatic shots of Trump walking next to a helicopter, speaking at rallies, praying all while we hear Matt Damon's character, a Nike executive, pitching his product to Jordan. And the speech in the movie, you still haven't seen air, right? No, no. The speech in the movie, it's the climax of the movie. And it always felt really weird and out of place. So they're pitching jordan he comes into the nike offices they're like showing him a highlight reel of his clips from college played to like a yacht rock soundtrack and he's like out on it and then matt damon's character is like look man and like gives this really like heartfelt speech about how like you're gonna be the greatest

player in the world and then like once you're at your peak, everyone's going to start trying to tear you down. It's really about what you do in that moment when you're at the height of power and everyone's trying to tear you down. It's just such a weird...

That was in retrospect now because I've been trying to make sense of why I don't air as much as everybody else for the past couple weeks. It's so weird because Jordan was as beloved and as free from criticism and turbulence as any iconic figure in modern pop culture history. Compared to Muhammad Ali before him or lebron since like no everybody's rooting for jordan and he made a point to not rock the boat yeah you know like he that was he would you were never gonna hear him give you like a hot take on some shit he's like yeah just give me my fucking checks let me play his career was like if tiger woods

never had the sex scandal it was just like everyone was just like yeah man you're the best and we love you like can we hang out with you we want to wear whatever you're wearing even though your sense of fashion is a little weird my head i got a ring too i got a earring too cool right so anyways it stuck out to me as like being weird and kind of coming out of nowhere but so it does kind of like it's just a good example of how trump is going to play this as like he's being politically persecuted for doing something that's against the rules that nobody cares about really and yeah i i don't know like it he did do it again this just completely plays into like the crime he committed here is that he just like used it without any permission or any thought as to like getting permission from the movie to use the clip. Who is the one make who's thinking of like, did Trump see air?

You think? No, it's got to be someone probably like generated in one of the forums or something like that like oh oh this isn't like from his campaign it is but like i'm sure he found it somewhere oh god you need if i had to guess retruth thing i mean who knows i mean i i get they're probably all just they're like man that shit is so dope because trump is like michael jordan and they again it does show you what the perspective is for him and his supporters it's a it's a haters versus ballers narrative so yeah it's not a morality thing or a legal thing it's no you're balling out of control literally yeah you're out of control

and uh they just they hate you yeah and that's all it is man just like michael jordan yeah and they didn't even cut like they edit it for time but they also keep the line a shoe is just a shoe until someone steps into it which is very specific to the movie um because the part that they the operative part is the line where he's like you're gonna change the fucking world but you know what once they build you as high as they possibly can they're gonna tear you back down i like that they did the but a shoe is just a shoe until someone steps into it air jordan anyways that should have been for ron desantis talking about him wearing those big cowboy boots yeah the lip and they're like they want to talk about my boots well guess what A shoe is just a shoe until someone steps into it.

Onto it, in my case, because it is one foot in the air, and I need to step onto an Apple box to even get into my shoes. Oh, Rob. Yeah, Rob. We'll see. But yeah, it's nice to see. I mean, apparently, it's all

Trump is not happy, so there's that. So that's a little bit of a treat, I guess, apparently it's all Trump is not happy. Um, so there's that. So you could, that's, that's, that's a little bit of a treat I guess you can have is that he's definitely not feeling good. Uh, but at the end of the day,

there's all, there's a lot, there's so many variables, like any other lawyer would be like, Hey man, you might want to take a plea here, bro. Yeah.

Uh, but not this guy. Yeah. He's unhappy. And yet I feel like that is when he thrives is in conflict like uh as opposed to like this would kill ron desantis like he would he would just oh yeah and he'd wither away like the guy at the end of indiana jones in the last crusade ron desantis has too much of a knowledge of like the legal system to not be shook. Yeah.

By seeing that. Whereas Trump is like, I don't know. Daddy would always pay for me to get away with stuff. And when you're operating from that place, then like you're, you're kind of, uh,

you're protecting your psyche from, from real damage of the consequences when you're used to just being like, I'll pivot off of this and we'll see what happens. Just lie. All right. Let's take one more break and we'll come back and talk about a couple other non-Trump stories from the weekend. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President

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Yeah. And Tony Awards went on with no scripts thank god we can talk about how much we were all watching the shit out of the tony awards oh yeah so it wasn't 76th annual awards or something i don't know why i know that no clue no i'm not up on the world of theater infamously yeah a lot of people a lot of people look to me for that and uh i let them down time after time this ain't your king you're looking for because he don't like the stage that's right it's the shrek musical which was actually pretty good um i i just like okay so the wga strike is happening which means pens down and nobody's writing no writing whatsoever although like low-key you know in the industry there people Okay, so the WGA strike is happening, which means pens down. Nobody's writing shit. No writing whatsoever.

Although, like, low-key, you know, in the industry, people are doing more, like, scab shit, or, like, things that used to be union-like type of award shows. It's actually non-union now. So if a producer wants to come and think of lines to say, we'll pay you there. Anyway, all that to say is, no one's writing. And I guess the Tony Awards went went they actually said that's fine everything will be improvised yes like which is impossible when you know like how complicated uh like you have to coordinate all the camera moves you have to uh yeah so it opens with the

host saying tonight is unscripted darlings uh and insisting that the only words on the teleprompter would be, please wrap up, and then holding up a script that was blank, which is a joke that someone apparently didn't have to write. That was just something that she came up with on the spot. Yeah, but also very Trumpian in that you do have writers, but you're very trumpian and that like you do have writers but you're doing this thing like and then show a script with no words on it yes and they can't

believe that we had a fucking we're paying people to fucking write this or whatever of course yeah we'll do oh no wait so i don't know yeah that does sound like a nightmare logistically to produce a live award show and not have any sense of the timing or what people are going to say unless i don't know yeah that does sound like a nightmare logistically to produce a live award show and not have any sense of the timing or what people are going to say unless it was so rigid like person comes on you get to say a couple things then get to opening the fucking envelope announce and then move on type of shit yeah i'm doing i, there was a seven minute dance number up top, so it couldn't have been that rigid. Um, but yeah,

I mean, it's, so when the awards were handed out, some of the recipients were themselves, WGA members and took the opportunity to call attention to the strike, which was actually by design because like behind the scenes of the show, there was a lot of negotiations happening right where like the wga was at first telling their members not to even go to the show but then they agreed they wouldn't

picket the award if you don't use a script okay you don't use a script but then the dramatists guild which represents playwrights composers and lyricists met with the nominees and convinced them to just go to the awards but voice support for the writers so it's all yeah that is like a recurring nightmare of having to do a show and like not having any of the like lines memorized or like not the script being blank or you know like that sort of thing is like is a it feels like a stress dream come to life like doing doing an award seriously without a single thing written down yeah i i feel bad for everybody who was on the crew of that producing an all improvised award show uh but i mean yeah zeitgang did you see it did it feel improvised

did it feel a little produced let us know uh because i for one do not have time to watch it yeah i didn't either but good to see them good to see them pretend i mean i don't know i want to i want to give them the benefit of the doubt and everyone did their damnedest to give one hell of an improvised award show yeah and you know celebrating the arts is not the it's not the worst thing in the world but yeah we obviously don't want this to be the new the new norm where they're now like yeah where they're not like but it's improvised right you know it's like yeah and it's all like ucb and like groundlings improvisers now doing these like lives just like we're literally not writing anything they're coming up with it right there i don't know so because that does i think play to like the public likes to

believe that like stuff is improvised like when you watch a movie that oh man that that stuff had to be improvised how much were they coming up with on the spot like that i think that's a persistent thing that you hear from actors and writers in particular being like yeah that's an annoying thing that actors like to play into as well right that yeah we're just kind of letting the camera run and riffing on stuff and you know came up with some real judd apatow shit yeah yeah we were on some real apatow shit and finally uh 9-11 truthers, old news. Say hello to 6-11 truthers. Sunday was June 11th, and a portion of the I-95 in Philadelphia collapsed after a tanker truck burst into flames early Sunday morning. And yeah, so like a whole chunk of like one of the biggest arteries

in the United States collapsed. I saw the footage of that. It was horrifying. horrifying look the wild part i saw a video of people who were on the like the part of the freeway that was above where the fire was like directly underneath the like flaming tanker and it's wild to just see people like pull up to this part of the freeway that's clearly has huge flames and smoke like flying out from both sides and like you kind of see cars stop and they're like should i drive through this right do i what do i do and it's like some people break and then at one i saw this shot of like just an 18 wheeler

just like fucking just full like pedal to the metal just going right through another it kind of gave other drivers the confidence but like knowing that that shit just collapsed right after my god that's like kind of I don't blame people for being like I don't know if I should drive fucking over the cooking bridge maybe not the best time to be brave

to uh brave enough to get to Wawa yeah hey but we got to but a few people on Twitter pointed out that the collapse is not far from Four Seasons Total Landscaping. So, I don't know. You connect the dots.

We're putting the dots out there. You connect them for us. 6-11 obviously. 6 is 9 upside down. Whoa. It's. Wait. What else do I have to say here miles uh but it's clearly an inside job i love that people are just like kind of being like stupid and saying that but does anyone have any does the theory go beyond being like what if it was 6 11 instead of 9 11

like is there anything about i-95 right there where they're like, the reason they did it is because they're trying to stop. I don't know. Is there a keeper? I don't think they have motive yet, but the motive will be revealed. More will be revealed, I'm sure. I think this is time for a new Q-drop.

Yeah, exactly. But yeah, I mean, it says it's going to take months to repair which i get because it looked like it just a fucking whole section of that thing just fucking caved in oh yeah yeah a bridge melted um essentially um never good never good folks never good it's bad news uh those are some of the things that are trending on this monday morning june 12th we are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show uh until then be kind to each other be kind to yourselves get the vaccine don't do nothing about white supremacy and we will talk to you all tomorrow bye bye

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