The Daily Zeitgeist - We're Rope-Dropping DisneyTrend 5/2: UCLA Protests, Boeing Whistleblower, Kristi Noem, Arizona

Episode Date: May 2, 2024

In this edition of We're Rope-Dropping DisneyTrend, Jack and special guest host Andrew Ti catch up on what they've been up to, the arrest of hundreds peaceful pro-Palestinian protesters at UCLA, anoth...er Boeing whistleblower dying under mysterious circumstances, Kristi Noem's "too little; too late" apology tour for murdering a puppy, Arizona repealing its Civil War-era abortion ban and much more! 1. https://www.instagram.com/solidarityandsnacks/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeart on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you
Starting point is 00:01:25 get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of we're rope dropping disney trend um my name is jack o'brien i'm I'm thrilled to be joined by my guest host, Andrew T. What up? I'm still here. And I am still here. I am back from Disneyland. You did it. I did it.
Starting point is 00:01:55 We went to Disneyland for my son's birthday. I got real into it. I started using the phrase rope drop as a verb. I was like, all right, we're going to rope drop the Rise of the Resistance, then we're going to head right over to the Millennium Falcon and we're... It all worked out. It was like a...
Starting point is 00:02:13 We were undefeated. Did you get... Let's see. My two Disneyland things are Corn Dogs. For some reason, those are my favorite Corn Dogs on Earth. Really? And Dole Whip. Did? And Dole Whip. Did get a Dole Whip. Dole Whip in more places now.
Starting point is 00:02:30 We did the Dole Whip with the Tiki Room, which was a good place to take a nap. But yeah, it's funny. There's just various parts of Disneyland that have not been updated in decades and just seal it. And those are some of the better parts like we went on pirates of the caribbean and that ride feels creaky like you can literally hear the creaking of the animatronics in some instances and uh yeah the little it's just a little gears of the difference engine turn and it turn and the pirates stare at you.
Starting point is 00:03:07 So much of it was just animatronic. Producer Brian is saying the fudge for some reason always hits. The fudge. Yeah. I didn't, I didn't do fudge. I did do Dole Whip. I never consider fudge.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Yeah. I'm going to do it next time. I didn't realize how close it was. Yeah. How doable Disney land is from los angeles and now my kids know that too yeah you're gonna you're gonna enjoy the next five to ten years yeah also a pretty small part like i was i felt like we had done everything we came to do by like two o'clock in the afternoon maybe Maybe I don't know about all the stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:46 That's the dark side of the rope drop. You don't realize the actual experience at Disneyland is waiting in line. And if you don't wait in line a ton, you're going to be out of shit to do. Yeah, it goes quick. Anyways, we talk on tomorrow's episode about Biden's statement,
Starting point is 00:04:08 but on the subject of the student protest, we have an update on the UCLA encampment where there were over 200 people, students, arrested this morning. Overnight, cops came in and arrested hundreds of peaceful protesters after ignoring violent, uh, pro Zionist protesters, uh, the night before and letting them tear the encampment apart and throw old
Starting point is 00:04:34 women around while screaming, you stand no chance, old lady. Like the, like that, that's a literal quote. Like these people see themselves as the good guys it's like like this is yeah assaulting people in the middle of the night you stand no chance old lady is such
Starting point is 00:04:54 a fucking cobra kai thing to say it's so wild um yeah like bane would be like two on the nose chill the fuck out but anyways those people not only were they like not arrested but like I don't think anyone expected them to be like there wasn't even there was no news story about that there's no like everyone was just like no yeah they're on the
Starting point is 00:05:18 same side as the police so yeah yeah they just they're allowed I mean on the off chance anyone listening to this is on the fence like when you're on the same side as the cops yeah you're on the wrong side yeah go google you stand no chance old lady and then um yeah uh anyways let's talk about what what have you been watching anything, Andrew? I will say, I guess I've been on a not horror kick, but a weirdo unpleasant movies kick. Not that they're bad,
Starting point is 00:05:55 but just unpleasant, kind of grimy movies. I watched The People's Joker, Monkey Man, and Abigail in kind of of quick, like a two week period. Nice. And yeah, all those movies, um,
Starting point is 00:06:10 they really, they all have a real solid element of like, I, this might be the new trilogy of, you know, it smelled crazy in there. Cause like just everything in all those movies just looks like it fucking stinks.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Right. Oh man. Civil war also had those most recent movie i watched and we talked a lot about that i have civil war has not sat great like the jesse plemons scene still continues to i'm like uh for most of that scene i'm like that's some of the best moments of movie that i saw this year um but uh it's very brief and the um journalism aspect of it just i don't know is it has not sat well the more i've thought about it the more i've been like wait what what why are we following them around i know people love this movie and and the leg that people have to stand on with me is that i have not seen it yet, but from what I've heard and from what I saw in the marketing,
Starting point is 00:07:05 I think the movie's not for me. And I'm doubly convinced of this because, uh, when I tweeted that, like no movie, I, some version of like no movie that like is called civil war that has fewer primary black cast members as captain American civil war is really going to do it for me. primary black cast members as captain American civil war is really going to do it for me. People got mad at me, but exclusively white guys got mad at me. So I was like, I still feel like I'm on the right track.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yeah. I don't mind being on the opposite side of the white film guys. It is. Yeah. I mean, it's an abstraction like that. There is the central point of like, we want you to see war in other countries the way like with
Starting point is 00:07:48 fresh eyes by showing you what a war like that would look like in america but like they've gone through so many levels of abstraction to do that in a way that like feels like politically centric yeah um it's like like take a stand on that and live in the real world because we're still living in the civil war or yeah yeah and we're still living in the original american civil war yeah alex garland the brit if you just want to show the horrors of modern warfare in what it would look like to americans make an emotional point. I'm just saying war of 1812, baby. Just have the SAS bomb Washington.
Starting point is 00:08:29 There you go. RAF, whatever. I don't know jack shit about Britain. Yeah, that's close enough. Anything else you, I think you were mentioning off Mike that you're experimenting with.
Starting point is 00:08:42 You're like micro dosing parenthood. Well, I was, I was with in atlanta for the last week and i watched listen it's just a thing where like where you are in charge of a kid's media or like you have to be party to it like he loves elmo but he also loves this guy called blippy which i genuinely would have assumed was like speaking of people's joker it also looks like a tim and eric sketch like where i'm just like this is this is a bit right this is deranged yeah unhinged like yes it's it is like one of those things that like if blippy was around your kidslippi is a guy who wears like what? Orange overalls. Orange overalls.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Giant puffy like hat. Yeah. But has like cocaine energy, but talking to kids. Yeah. Yeah. Like big glasses. You can see his teeth gritting as he's explaining in the one I watched, like trains. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And you're just like you would not let this guy near actual children yeah like it's so bizarre choo choo here comes the train choo choo because that's still on my kids playlist uh it still comes on every once in a while i kind of change it fast enough um but also yeah blippy was a constant battle that i won i ultimately won like we didn't i spent very little time watching blippy uh and my kids never really got to the stage where they were like blippy was a fixture in their life it was a battle it was a battle i will, and this is something my sister said that I chose in the moment not to interrogate, and I'll just repeat it here because it made no sense to me, but she was like, we don't
Starting point is 00:10:32 let them watch Thomas the Tank Engine because it's like... Fascist? I think she said it. Yeah. She was like, it's fascist. And I was like, I'm not going to interrogate this at all. Yeah, yeah. It's all about usefulness it's like fascist in a way that
Starting point is 00:10:47 like when you think about it and like write an essay on it you're like oh yeah this is fascist you know it's like if you're very thoughtful you recognize that it's fascist uh because yeah they they will like the characters get depressed when they can't be useful anymore and it's yeah it's a little weird Thomas the Tank Engine it just has a strange vibe to it I did not successfully win that battle because my son was obsessed
Starting point is 00:11:18 with trains at that developmental stage but we're through it he turned out fine for now just now yeah just wait till he gets his first job yeah that's right all right uh we should talk about uh boeing uh joshua dean was uh fired by boeing supplier spirit aerosystems in 2023 after flagging safety concerns. He then filed a complaint with the FAA. And now Dean is the
Starting point is 00:11:49 second Boeing-linked whistleblower to have died in the last two months. Which is a concerning number of dead Boeing-linked whistleblowers. The first one was concerning. Kind of reminds me of when Kevin spacey's
Starting point is 00:12:05 accusers kept mysteriously dying and um yeah it's i don't know he was in good health until two weeks ago when he went to the hospital complaining of trouble breathing uh and he died of a difficult to treat bacterial infection so i mean i don't know i don't know the specifics of this it's just like a young healthy person the first person uh allegedly committed suicide um i it's so fucking dark too that like i the thing reading this and thinking about this most recent stuff uh and having just flown in a plane actually is like i'm starting to realize that boeing's passenger jet business is just whitewashing the rest of their actual business like right 7 737s exist to make you think boeing just makes passenger planes.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And that's like everyone's like primary, like primary interaction with the Boeing brand. So, cause initially you're like, Oh, that seems a little wild that like whistleblowers would get, like could even consider to be like, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:21 whatever conspiracy conspiracy or whatever, because of Boeing what is Boeing do Boeing just makes those things that look like dolphins in the sky yeah yeah and like you're like oh no no they're they're an arms manufacturer first and foremost and those people probably do murder people allegedly yeah but I don't know I feel like Boeing should be watching out for the safety of every whistleblower who has ever said a bad word about them
Starting point is 00:13:50 like they're parents of a toddler at this point. I'm blaming them for any whistleblower deaths going forward regardless. I don't think they... I think the world today has now led me to believe that high-end evil
Starting point is 00:14:09 is working under a no press is bad press policy because they just don't care yeah we talk on tomorrow's episode miles uh talked yesterday about the bike lock thing the nypd being like this bike lock is clearly the work of high level terrorists because look how thick the chain is um it's just not not even trying anymore would be the like phrase that like they're not trying and it haven't been for a while like i mean they it's just i don't know the the boeing thing is scary um i i don't know how The, the Boeing thing is scary. Um, I, I don't know how you, America steers out of this one where like the most powerful actors and the most like legally protected entities are the same thing.
Starting point is 00:14:57 And like corporations, uh, you know, so, I mean, not, not knowing how America gets out of this one is i feel like you're going to be saying that a lot bro yeah yeah yeah a couple of that's what makes it so exciting now that we're like coming to the end of this season to see how the writers get it
Starting point is 00:15:15 out of this one it's going to be uh see how america gets out of this pickle anyways let's uh take a quick break and we'll come back and hit another couple stories we'll be right back i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i'm cleo gray former member of 7m films and shekinah church and we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church,
Starting point is 00:15:52 an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:16:40 When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes! Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do. Like resume specialist Morgan Saner.
Starting point is 00:17:05 The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Starting point is 00:17:46 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:17:57 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:18:13 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, getting better this new season will cover all things sports and culture listen to naked sports on the black effect podcast network iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast the black effect podcast network is sponsored by diet coke and we're back and christy gnome uh has what a week i mean we started off the week talking about we started the week like on sunday the last i had heard is christy gnome presumptive vice
Starting point is 00:18:55 presidential running mate for donald trump then comes word of her upcoming memoir having a story about her uh killing her dog and then the backlash uh murdering a puppy i should i should say like straight up murdering a puppy um so now you know she is officially considered like off limits not going to be the vice presidential candidate and now we're on the like too little too late apology tour that's so it honestly though one of the more shocking bits of this is how this would be disqualifying for a republican candidate of any kind like yeah this is the line is here you fucking people yeah jesus yeah i mean listen to country songs that's you know or watch Watch movies and recognize that dogs are the only thing that can't be killed for the most part.
Starting point is 00:19:51 But she came through to explain, we were her second chance. The day she was put down was a day that she massacred livestock that were part of our neighbors. She attacked me, and it was a hard decision um so like kind of has the tone of like somebody talking to you after like fdr addressing the nation after after d-day i had to do it today she was put was put down, down, down, was a day. But yeah, she, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:28 The sociopathic dog murdering allegations are not going away with this one. No, it turns out. Yeah. I just like to imagine like what it's, like what her assistant is putting up with right now. Like I don't like to imagine but that's i guess anybody who is christy gnome's assistant yeah fuck them but gets what they deserve but it is a little like you know no one no editor was like a a i mean that who they're the editor of this book should be getting a promotion because they fucking like that was it's about the notes you don't
Starting point is 00:21:05 play andrew it's about the edits you don't make and they fucking nailed this one by not editing that out they're just like uh-huh oh wow we should go into that a little bit more what else do you remember about that day oh a construction crew saw you huh wow and what an interesting thing to remember almost like you considered killing every one of them also yeah i mean i guess the triangulation is this makes her tough yeah it was a political she makes the hard decisions sometimes you gotta put the fucking puppy down uh it's yeah i think that was it the fact that she did it and then killed a goat like the bloodlust
Starting point is 00:21:48 was unabated what else could I kill let's go fucking bleak fucking bleak world alright we have some good news at long last Arizona has repealed this is like good news at long last. Arizona has repealed.
Starting point is 00:22:06 This is like good news in a very narrow, narrow scope. Like, don't look too many months back when just the fact that this had to be done is bad news. Uh, the good news is Arizona is repealing its civil war era abortion ban. Uh,
Starting point is 00:22:23 the bill was passed by the senate and uh will be signed by governor katie hobbs on thursday uh the not so good news the repeal only narrowly passed 16 to 14 because two republicans sided with democrats uh and it doesn't actually take effect until 90 days after the end of the legislative session uh which could mean june or july um or if the republicans try to extend the session into the fall um so you know and just uh wild that this was even a thing that happened i mean yeah it's like we're in such a terrible place with all the political parties obviously but it is probably worth
Starting point is 00:23:12 noting that if they got their choice Republicans would restore all laws to the Civil War era right so yeah that is what it is also yeah not in Alex Garland garland's uh civil war all right this is everyone's cool we're just we're just a lot of a lot of great points on both sides there also may be
Starting point is 00:23:36 competing ballot measures for both pro-choice and anti-choice groups in the fall so i don't know it's not over but at least i don't know it also feels like this is because donald trump had like the day before this passed he was like why don't we leave it up to the states states can decide and then like a state comes through with the wildest most unpopular law passage that you could possibly imagine so i think i they got some nasty emails from the trump campaign probably i don't envy you having to uh think about this every day through the election ah yeah that's why i'm only here occasionally that is why we invented here on the daily zeitgeist the hard reset which is when you take a theragun and put it to your temple and uh
Starting point is 00:24:28 oblivion um uh we do not recommend you do that at home that's only for people who uh host the show um yeah all right andrew thank you so much for joining me where can people find you follow you all the good stuff yo is this racist uh you know what i i also wanted to say um this is not directly uh involved but um solidarity and snacks is a mutual aid group that i work with out here and i actually was just looking at our chat um we are running low on funds as are many many many mutual aid groups and i know money is tight for everyone but solidarity Solidarity and Snacks, there's Venmo links on
Starting point is 00:25:07 the Instagram and stuff. I don't know. Every penny you give gets out on the streets. Yeah. We'll link off to that in the footnotes. All right. That is going to do it for us this Thursday afternoon. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation,
Starting point is 00:25:58 then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark vs. Angel Reese I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:27:00 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

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