The Daily Zeitgeist - We've Only Just Begun To Trend 10/14: Steve Harvey, Kyrie Irving, Joe Rogan, Empty Shelves Joe, Dodgers v. Giants, Karen Carpenter v. Madonna

Episode Date: October 14, 2021

 In this edition of We've Only Just Begun To Trend, Jack and Miles discuss Steve Harvey's new and improved style, Kyrie Irving breaks his silence, Joe Rogan v. Sanjay Gupta, how global shortages are Joe Biden's fault (somehow), Dodgers v. Giants game 5, and the eternal question: Karen Carpenter or Madonna. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah, we'll get to that. I'm Jack, you're Miles. These are some things that are a trend. And by the way, somebody got mad at me because I've been saying Brendan Frazier. Yeah, it's Brendan Frazier. Yeah. Like I'm not the only person who's been making that mistake,

right? Yeah, you're right. And a lot of people voted for Donald Trump. So come on. I mean, I can't, you can't hold that against me.

Like, okay. Yes. Maybe 2020. You're like, you should have learned from 2016 but i don't know man like i thought i think he learned i thought he did some cool stuff he knows how to do it better this time but no you know why i remember there was like i feel like

it was a comedy central promo or something where he was on it and he did this bit and he's like hi it's me brendan frazier not frazier and you're watching blah blah blah and i was like okay full i get it full just change your name come on like anyway you have the same last name on we'll have them on we'll get to the bottom of the iconic tv show um come on uh she was just trying to get brendan frazier on for like a laugh i mean not for a laugh that would be fucking dope that guy's a uh one of the great now now you act as when he listens back to this i just didn't know uh tim backpedaling like robert dinairo uh you know al pacino uh all right uh killing it so steve harvey's fashion is trending because it's trendy because it's trendy uh on you know it's trending as in super producer anna hosnia

sent it to us uh as we were starting our recording and uh it's it's just a photograph of him in some very un-Harvey-like, you know, he's not rocking the big, boxy, baggy men's suits. Nope, past that. That he's known for. The non-Later Gators. Yeah, he's dressed in the latest fashion. Truly the latest fashions. I kind of like what he's got going on up top.

He's got a jacket with a popped, sort of reminds me of the Marvin Gaye album cover, the way he's got his collar popped a little bit. Oh, kind of giving you what's going on vibes? Yeah, but in a tight denim jacket and a turtleneck. Cobalt blue denim jacket. Yeah, cobalt blue denim jacket, turtleneck, black turtleneck black turtleneck and you said you like what's going on up top why did you just say up top you don't like what's going on south of the border so then down below he's got really tight leather pants on where you can tell he is

circumcised based on these pants he's and they are doing it's a meat broadcast yeah it's a meat broadcast he's broadcasting meat that's what he's doing these pants and chunky old boots yeah and real real chunky boots and it was like is he dressing like lewis hamilton and when she said that my head almost fell off i'm like please don't tell me this is the new era of Steve Harvey. And then you look and like, shit, he's having a, another midlife crisis. Lewis Hamilton is a race car driver for people. There you go.

Like me who had to Google that. I was like, yeah, Lewis Hamilton, of course, Lewis was a race car driver and fashion icon. I'm assuming based on, I mean,

it depends on, yeah, I mean, he's very fashion forward. I'm not that fashion forward. Um, mostly because I don't have the have the means to have a stylist. And also it just feels exhausting

to put on anything other than a hoodie. But yeah, I mean, Lewis always comes with the next level. He's letting you know he has money to dress this way. And I think Steve Harvey's doing the same. By the way, after we covered uh the machine gun kelly megan fox story by molly lambert on today's episode which i didn't realize at the time sorry uh i've been on a bit of a social media break so i didn't realize it was written by molly but the i've been a media break means you can't read a byline that that is not that same to me too

because i looked at the gq thing my app that is on me for sure it's on all of us jack it's on all especially because the writing is strong it is a thing that you notice and for some reason because it was in gq when molly wrote that like megan fox was like the most beautiful woman she's ever seen i was like this dude is horny um because i just read gq and man when i i i saw her in person uh at a halloween party years ago and i think i told this story but i she was dressed as like a fucking stormtrooper or padme or something and i was like yo who's this person anyway so is this fox right who's this who's this weed but uh since reading the story i was uh i've had occasion to go into the office a couple

times and i've noticed multiple couples that seem to be using uh them as their like style icons uh like you know i saw a girl in leather pants and like a like fur bikini walking with a dude who was you know dressed like machine gun kelly like looked like tattoo leather trench coat yeah tatted up uh looked like he hadn't been outdoors ever mesh shirt mesh shirt yeah just like back hair yeah you know itty bitty jeans oh yeah chicken spaghetti at chicolini's yeah like all sorts of real piece of shit you know um anyways uh they they are it's not that um they're wrong it's that the world has uh passed me by and this is this is who they are uh our future king and queen this seems so impractical to wear like

such ornate outfits all the time yeah yeah yeah it definitely feels like that sort of glam rock kind of aesthetic if i can't like spill weed ash on it and not have to worry about a dry cleaning bill like that's sort of that's the bar for me yeah but anyways i feel like i'm gonna start driving around hollywood and seeing people dress like steve harvey because uh this guy's oh you know we need mfc erickson on twitter who always does the wild photoshops of us make jack and i megan they make a steve harvey but yeah i i do like that somebody did those poses they do where he'll like just have his like hand like on her crotch and she's like pointing a gun at his dick yeah it's like why

yeah we're fucking messy yes um it's dangerous like there there's something about them that is just like always on the brink of being like this is this would be parody yeah this is a joke like her pointing the gun at his dick in a fashion photo shoot that like takes itself seriously and he's like yeah that's right yeah i trust her like or is that what it's supposed to be i don't know it's so wild and on the nose and just like what the fuck uh but anyways uh shout out to gq for giving us i bet you they do a thing where they're both like at a like a public execution like either firing squad like against a wall like together blindfolded or like at the gallows or some shit holding hands that's i'm telling telling you right now is how dumb these just,

just wait y'all. And when I'm right, wait, I'll probably forget. It's going to be that he has his head on the chopping block and she is holding the ax, right? Yeah.

She has the bow and arrow and he's like in the, you know, getting ready to get shot or he's, or he's like at a witch burning and she's got like the torch that she's about to drop at his feet um yeah i kind of like that yeah isn't there this is we still haven't gotten to the second story that we have on our list uh but i just found out that the that the doctor's appointment that we were trying to race through this to get to uh did not go through so we do not have a doctor's appointment so you know the kids your infection can wait you

know what i'm saying yeah he can still hear yeah uh kairi irving has broken a silence about why he's holding out it's the sort of thing i would admire if he wasn't doing it for anti-vax purposes. But the quotes are, I'm doing what's best for me. Not true. I know the consequences here. And if it means that I'm judged and demonized for that, that's just what it is. That's the role I play. But I never wanted to give up my passion, my love, my dream just over this mandate.

So what? It's not about the money it's not always about the money it's about choosing what's best for you again this is not the best he's like you think i want to really lose money uh you think i really want to give up my dream and go after a championship you think i really just want to give up my job it seems like it it seems like it man like that's just from here. The vaccine has no ill effects, and everybody else in your league has proven that. I like how he said he's like, I'm not going to let people just, like,

use me as some fucking dummy or tool for their own agenda. And then every fucking right-wing conservative critic, media commentator, whatever is like being like, Oh, he's so brave. Kyrie, we stand with you.

Uh, no. Uh, you think the irony is lost on him? It shouldn't be. But like now that, so this was like, I,

I did hold out hope because I am, I'm rooting for the Lakers. I'm rooting for the Sixers as always this season. But there were moments watching the nets last year where they like raised offensive basketball to a level I had never seen before. And that's always what I'm in it for. Like, that's why I loved LeBron is because he was doing shit I had never seen before.

Uh, and they are really fun to watch. I'm like, I would, so I was hoping that he was just going to be like psych or just be like all right like you know i made my point but it really this feels more like he's digging in which sucks for him and also like i don't respect your decision i actively disrespect your fucking decision you're selfish um and it doesn't make sense to me uh what i will do is i won't attack you on the street

so in that sense i can i can respect the fact that you are an autonomous being and with your own sense of agency but like this whole thing is i feel like that's a common refrain you hear from a lot of these anti-vaccines like i just hope that like you can respect my decision it's like no which is like what what does that mean what do you that that's that seeming to suggest like please don't look at me less than because of this decision but that that's exactly what's happening when you look at the situation not just in fucking new york or the east coast or the united states there are many countries where people would fucking claw their faces off to get a vaccination right because the situation is so dire and unpredictable. But, you know, it's easy to hold yourself up in your millions of dollars places of living

and not let the real world get to you. Yeah, it's it. I respect the decision as much as I respect someone's decision to drive drunk and put like themselves, right? It's more like, OK okay people around them at risk and maybe they don't kill somebody this time but that wasn't a great decision and i don't think you should you should do it i'm not and i don't think you should be like and i'm driving drunk because nobody can tell me what to do okay big man okay go off joe rogan has had cnn's dr sanjay gupta on his show so did you watch any of that

clip no man it's just i mean sanjay gupta you know this man has had to talk to a lot of anti-vaxxers and vaccine hezy people and you know because he's like trying to like find common ground and then sort of like be like well that's wrong and you should try this etc etc but yeah the the way like joe rogan is trying to tell dr sanjay gupta that he's like here's what i think they should do for the vaccine like if you're like obese or like old then like yeah you should probably get the vaccine but like i take vitamins and work out so i don't know he's like yeah could i not have had covid that would have been probably cool but he's like but i've had worse colds so there's that part and also what i think people should do is get vaccinated then get covid that way you have super immunity that's what i would do but like that's

the shit that's what his show is right he just like throws like i mean it's it's a lot of like talk radio it's a lot of podcasts just like throwing ill-informed ideas out as they occur to them and then being like ah what am i talking about i you know i'm no expert right right right it's like well when you have 200 million downloads a month yeah maybe well whatever i'm not expecting him to have any sense of responsibility about it but yeah he the funny part was when he said they're like yeah then you should get it then you have super immunity dr sanjay gupta is like yeah here's the thing though the goal shouldn't be super immunity because you've already been infected the goal should be to never be infected at all to stay as healthy as possible because it's not even then despite the high efficacy rates of

vaccines that's just that that defeats the purpose of it all don't and you're still like i gotta get it it's so it's like selfish bordering on solipsistic the idea that like just his entire view of this that like anytime you have it you are risking getting the people around you sick and killing them like how the fuck is this not getting through and how is this not like immediately a thing that is just like disqualifying like of somebody i don't know i guess it's actually qualifying because yeah that's how a lot of people think. And again, people, especially in a time like now, people are going to love to hear somebody agree with them. So I'm sure he has more people trying to tune in to be like, yeah, how do I let me.

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That's a global supply chain issue. Just for the record, if that's what you're referencing, it's not just the Joe Biden, but the Joe Biden induced supply chain issue. But yeah, I think what's so funny is there's real problems republicans could point to um and real issues that this administration is having where you're like oh that's not a good policy at all but again they're not in the business of having policies or improving people's lives so all they can do is just like do these like weird stupid like change the biden logo where the e is just a three-tiered shelf that's empty right i mean

that's pretty good uh yeah nailed it yeah it's not a good like i i just like people i remember would be like sleepy joe that's a pretty good one he got him there and i'm just like i don't know what like empty shelves joe doesn't flow is it a play on i mean if you're if you're on a if you're on the super like the russian troll farms are mostly still contributing a lot to right-wing twitter discourse um and and the ones who are able to get things trending then you could say that well it's because it's a russian troll farm just coming up with something. But all of them, there's not a single nickname that's good at all. So I don't know.

They suck. But there's other tweets that say, this one person, this woman saying, we're going to have to cancel Christmas this year because nobody can buy toys for the kids. Thanks, Empty Shelves Joe. The meaning of Christmas is to buy my children toys, right? Are you Christian?

I don't know. According to your Twitter twitter bio you're a woman of god gold so yeah i don't know that is going to be very frustrating when the global supply chain like the the war on christmas is going to be as as we talked about in an episode last week that you know there's there's real supply issues having to do with the global pandemic and the fact that you know globalization is not the end-all cure-all that we thought it was to all of society's problems and people are going to be like see trump trump was right yeah uh game five dodgers giants mines it all comes down to this comes down to this a nervy one yeah hey i'm

glad the dodgers forced a game five i hope i hope the dodgers win it's just it's a painful thought to think that we're gonna go out to the giants it's interesting because i i do find myself rooting for the dodgers despite you know just because i live in la and i like a lot of people who are dodgers fans i think objectively were had i know uh like horse in the race i would definitely be rooting for the giants right because they're like the underdogs i mean they both had the best records like right but the giants have like half the payroll that the Dodgers have. Sure, Jack. And you can keep talking that kind of shit about the Dodgers. The Giants' starting pitcher is Jesse Plemons, their number one starter. So that's also pretty impressive.

That dude is the least athletic looking motherfucker. Their ace, who's going to be pitching tonight, lights out and looks exactly like Jesse Plemons. Yeah, he's got a big big jesse plemmons energy uh logan webb right yeah um but yeah i don't fuck dude i i again it's just nervy because it's such a hot hotly contested rivalry obviously although i mean people get killed over that shit dodgers fans were fighting each other uh you know, and a lot of us want another World Series win. It's not always easy,

folks. So I will just wait. I'll keep my mouth shut. Just see what happens. Oh, did you see Katie Stoll tweeted that thing? She's like, if you're a Giants fan in LA, don't say you're a Giants fan out loud in LA. Wait, is she? She is a Giants fan, right?

Yeah, because isn't she up there? Up there. Up there north. And finally, the debate that is on everyone's mind, I guess. This is trending right now. Karen Carpenter vs. Madonna. Huh?

This is like... I... I think this is just us being old. It would be the equivalent of somebody being like, all right, guys, Steven Spielberg versus Kubrick. Or Steven Spielberg versus Hitchcock. Well, I don't know if that is that. They're different eras, right?

Yeah, I mean, Karen Carpenter's 70s, right? Madonna was like 80s. Yeah, Madonna wasn't kicking it with Elvis. You know what I mean? I don't know. It's just this weird thing on Twitter where we're both confounded.

I don't know how they're what how they're comparable i mean like karen carpenter was like a also like a drummer too so i don't know if like what are we what are we using the voices the i don't know but a lot of people like it's no question it's karen carpenter right because it's a it's a contrary a contrarian take that like you can have that uh you know they they do have some hits i will say that the carpenters which also madonna was always uh not only a solo artist a solo name um yeah and i i mean i guess uh remember you told me you loved me, baby? Yeah. I got a lot of hits, but they're all corny and shit.

They're kind of timeless, corny songs. Yeah, they're on the shit that would be on those infomercials that would come on on a Friday night at 2 a.m. Like, oh, the greatest classics of our time. Why do birds suddenly appear? This is a bongar. I like they a lot of their songs sound like they could be sung by the cast of sesame street and the vibe wouldn't change at all no the vibe wouldn't change but i guess here's the deal like as a vocalist karen carpenter is a better vocalist

than madonna that's for sure i thought you just had to sing scales i was about to shut the fuck up bro why do i know he's not on sesame street okay it's okay it's okay buddy it's okay um so i don't know and she's a drummer so but then like madonna's got a whole swag about her too that like with her contribution to pop music that's why i'm like i'm not interested in even trying to find a fucking bottom to this. I'm just more like, how, someone explain to me why this is a comparison

that needs to be made. How these two got in the same conversation. Madonna is an artist. Karen Carpenter is like more of a musician. Madonna's like, I don't think even Madonna claims she's like a good singer. No.

She's just like, just a vibe. And like, she also had like amazing producers behind her yeah um like look again karen carpenter banging your own drums playing that kit uh you got a wild vocal range sure are we going based off of like who's the bigger like band nerd right i do wonder if this is like because i do feel like madonna as a phenomenon has probably fallen off harder like in terms of like it's hard for people today to realize like what a big deal she was in the 80s and like

because like she was a purely like mtv creation and like it's hard to even like understand what mtv meant because it's like such a weird reality show factory now and just what what that kind of cool was i feel like people and then she's like very not cool and strange in a lot of ways now so like i think you know right all right who do you like better bach or sonny rollins thank you now there is a conversation we can get in i mean if we're going straight off mohawks right i think the decision is clear all right axel rose or nolan ryan huh okay all right those are the things that are trending uh on this thursday afternoon We are back tomorrow. A whole last episode of the show. It's a fun one. Tune

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