The Daily Zeitgeist - What A “Tragedy”, TV Doctors Betray Us 4.13.20

Episode Date: April 13, 2020

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We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. of sword quest we'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades listen to the legend of sword quest on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 129 episode one of their daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck the coke, brother. Fuck that. And fuck Fox News.

I got an email in the middle of the night from a boomer relative that was like, what do you think of this Fox News article that says that we shouldn't be distancing? I was like, I spent an hour replying at like three in the morning this morning uh so fuck fox news it's monday april 13th 2020 my name is jack o'brien aka quarantine quarantine quarantine quarantine I'm begging of you, please don't shake my hand

That was courtesy of Stephanie K And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray I would leave this home of mine anytime If it meant I got a soft taco supreme I would gladly risk a fine anytime I miss you Okay, Brian McKnight inspired

AKA Anytime Christy Yamaguchi-Main One of the I like that song so much I learned how to play that piano part Just by brute force No YouTube videos I was like

And then I worked it out Shout out to Brian McKnight Shout out to you, Chris I've been thinking about Brian McKnight a lot lately. I don't even know why. Still got your picture in the frame. It's just, he's just got that sincere energy you need.

Yeah. Hey, who's that voice? We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by our core co-host, Jamie Loftus! host jamie loftus oh say can you see little zams hosting zy she so proudly has failed her hacking and scheming working on her memoirs coding at speed of light. During the COVID we watch her still gallantly streaming. Even more than air, the cursed times we beware. We beware She proves To the sight

That her feet Are still fair Oh say Is that Quarmangled Loftus still Brave With good

Old Jacobi And Sir Miles O'Gray. Everyone, please consider joining the Marines. Thank you. I just joined the Navy. Wow. Sent him off to fight COVID-19 with that. Yeah.

Holy shit. I think I boiled an egg in that time. That's from James McDonald. Thank you for writing the whole song. Yeah. Thank you for singing the whole song. We're thrilled to be joined in our fourth seat by the hilarious, the brilliant, the talented, Francesca Fiorentini.

Hey, it's Francesca Quarantini now. There we go. Yeah, let's do it. You love to hear it. I have no song. I thought you were actually correcting me on your pronunciation. My heart stopped for a second. I was like, uh-oh, what did I do?

Did I fuck it up? Fuck. I typed it wrong again. Damn it. It's perfect. Francesca, how are you doing, and where are you hunkering down? Oh, I'm okay. I'm in my home.

I usually am in my home. This is really not a change of pace for me, just waiting for Mr. Hollywood to call and tell me I have a job at any time. Yeah, no, it's very normal. I mean, I'd like to be going out and doing stand-up, but, you know, I also enjoy the silence of, you know, Zoom stand-up shows. Oh, thrive. Thrive on them.

Thrive. Right. Yeah. The suspense. Is anyone enjoying themselves? Yeah. Right. The suspense. Is anyone enjoying themselves? Yeah. They're probably taking a shit during this, and that's fine. It's old material.

Am I writing? No. No. The warm embrace of the hands clapping Zoom graphic. Nothing feels better. Nothing feeds the soul more than seeing that on one or two screens all right well we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about trump just had a good end of last

week that we want to check in on uh there's a lot of reports about how early he knew what he did in the week leading up to the national emergency and then he had my favorite tweet of his ever uh so we're going to talk about that we're going to talk about the process of opening up who opens who doesn't uh we're going to talk about tv doctors and maybe why they should shut the fuck up for the time being, maybe forever. We are going to look at Netflix's new dating show. It may be the horniest show ever, which is exciting. And then we're going to do our early Oscar race predictions because no more movies are coming out for the rest of the year.

So, yeah, we're going to see who's looking good between The Invisible Man and Sonic the Hedgehog. And then we'll share some quarantine activities. But first, Francesca, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? I mean, I think this reveals a lot about who we all are in this moment but i have been looking up sweatpants and sweatshirts and i'm investing in loungewear

uh yeah loungewear is a nice way of putting it yeah no it is i mean it's more just like giving up apparel uh but i think that's we're all like i again we're just all like i kind of wish i had corona i don't want it but i wish i did just so that like it would match just how the square footage that i'm allowed to traverse in my house you know like i wouldn't have any energy the fact that we're already like into early retirement with this self-quarantine shit so yeah it's it's been sweatshirts. How can I look, you know, semi-cute while still being at home? And like sweatpants.

And, you know, you never know what you're going to get. It's very difficult to find quality sweat wear. Because here's the thing. If you go out, if you leave your home to like, let's say, bring the garbage cans in or something or get your mail, you also have to not look bummy in that moment. Right. The pressures, yeah. I mean, I think I've been looking as well for capitalist consumer death shrouds to wear in our living quarters. And yeah, it's odd though.

I've been a sweatpants lover from the beginning, but it's weird how I've looked. I have like well-worn ones and I'm also like, do I need to start anew as I rot in a new, you know, cotton cocoon? But yeah. I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger. I got a new sweatshirt and that's as far as I've gotten in terms of reinventing myself in the choir. I got a crew neckhirt and that's that's as far as i've gotten in terms of reinventing my

myself in the choir i got a crew neck and then i was like all right i think that's a wrap that's it are you guys getting uh like i started the first week of the core i was like i'm gonna dress like it's a day of work and i i abandoned that like two weeks ago. I think a couple days ago I saw you wearing a collared shirt and I was like getting angry inside. I didn't say anything but I was like, who's this guy? What the fuck is this guy?

What the fuck is this dude's vibe with the button up shirt? I mean even Francesca, you got the fly turtleneck with the sweater on. Francesca looking too nice for the choir. Well, this is the other thing. Everyone should wear lipstick. It's nothing but,

I think, sweatshirts and lipstick. Be comfortable in your body but like a little bit of something. Men, women, doesn't matter. I mean, I'm near Her Majesty's makeup table right now.

I'm gonna put some lipstick on. Woo! Oh, very good. Well, okay. You're going to fuck up your lines. That looks good. All right. Yeah, see?

You're fucking up your lines a little bit. The pop of color just makes everything. Wow. Hi. You look so professional right now. Let me see. Hi. Hello.

How are you? Yeah, it looks pretty good. Her majesty is going to be so thrilled. It gives a little bit of life, I would say. This is called Viva Glam Matte by MAC. I'm seamlessly transitioning into a beauty vlogger on this podcast Zoom call. I feel like that's a pretty good color for you, actually. It's kind of natural.

Yeah, it just makes your lips pop. Do I look like someone in the middle of a coir-induced breakdown? That sounds like my men's teeth. Francesca, what is something you think is underrated? Underrated

is butter in cookies. Apparently you're supposed to have more of it than I put in this week into some chocolate chip cookies i was really excited bernie sanders dropped out i'm like mother fuck i'm gonna make some cookies and i thought when it asked for a cup of butter you just cut up the butter stick and put it into a cup and then yeah and if i smush it in all that's a cup but no in fact and i think it says on most sticks of butter that one stick is half a cup and then yeah and if i shmush it in all that's a cup but no in fact and i think it

says on most sticks of butter that one stick is half a cup and you need two sticks for a full cup and uh and now i uh i'm eating the driest cookies i think anyone's ever made and i'm tempted to just like just kate like carve out all of the chocolate chips and then start anew. They're cakey as fuck. Look at this. Oh, they look good. Oh, they look good, actually. No, no, no, no.

They don't even squint. Look at this. I'm pressing as hard as I can. Oh, yeah, they're too hard. Come on. Yeah. Anyway, so butter. You got to get the butter.

I mean, I think that's one thing I've learned in Quart. Obviously, when you cook, any chef show show you've seen they're always like dude it's always just about how much butter you put in and then when i started making my own food more like more butter like required recipes i was like let's just turn this up and see what the limits are for butter in a recipe that's true like french food is just all regular food with more butter. Yeah. Welcome. I'm a chef de cuisine now.

Welcome to my bistro. Steakhouses, the secret is they butter their steak. Also, they know how to cook it really well. They butter that bacon. Bacon that sausage. What is something you think is overrated? Bacon that sausage. Over is something you think is overrated bacon that sausage um overrated and maybe you know i don't know how long this quarantine will last so uh

i might be doing this exact thing but couples podcasts in quarantine can you fucking stop i don't care i don't care about you and your actor boyfriend. I'm sorry. Like, I don't, I'm not, I don't want to watch that. I don't care. I'm dealing with my own drama every single day, trying to keep my relationship. And like, you know, there's an amount of like, we're all gassy. No one's having sex. I'm sorry. If you're a fucking couple having a lot of sex right now, fuck you.

I agree. This is the least horny time it's so unhorny i don't understand i don't understand you tell that to the single folks they're like oh you're not horny i know there's a very clear division where it's like the people who could conceivably have sex do not want to right and then the people yeah no i mean most couples should just be in separate rooms masturbating like that would yeah we'd all be happier like normal people like a normal loving relationship how are you gonna get along she's going for a run fire up the computer yeah but i don't are you guys interested in those couples podcasts like i'm not no

i've i subscribed to one i'm not gonna name names i subscribed to one and couldn't bring myself to listen to it there's just something about it and i love the people involved love the people involved but uh i couldn't bring myself i don't yeah i was working anyone personally who's doing one so i just like i'm just like it's just hubris i mean I was working I was working on one with her majesty right now we only have one subscriber on the show and I want to name names who I think it is but you know we're trying our best I think like that idea though was like such a the first idea anyone with half a brain for content and a microphone first idea best idea yeah like you know what dude what if we just what if you know like you have your own thing and i do

my own thing like what if we fucking joined forces in the battle of who could give a fuck less about us and make a podcast where we'll massage our egos in these uncertain times i like yeah yeah every episode would start with like this is not normal it makes sense right you're always together why not yeah you know hashtag content but uh not every couple's interesting not and i don't know about single people a couple single friends are like yeah i guess i am kind of interested in what couples are going through in quarantine. I don't know. Unless they were like,

one of us is going to try and cut the other one in the next hour. We're going to try and- Full on shining. Yeah, full on shining. I'd watch and listen to this. That would be fun. A high stakes version of it.

Yeah, where they're like, one of us is going to die at the end of the podcast. That'd be a good fiction podcast to do right now is like you you sort of what was that youtube uh girl personality in the beginning people didn't know if she was real or not like what the deal was with her vlogs and shit lonely girl one or something yes i'm like but you do the podcast equivalent we're like i'm not sure if this is a real podcast about a couple who's fighting every episode and it's turning into a possible true crime thing. Right.

Maybe The Shining should be our group watch. I think this is just going to be the recurring. A slippery slope. Yeah. I think this is going to be the recurring thing. We're never actually going to do a Zeitgeist rewatch. We're just going to talk about what should be our zeitgeist rewatch but i do think the shining is probably closer to people's actual experience than anything cute or

fun it's not cute okay jack nichols this is not cute this is not normal uh what is a myth francesca what's something people think is true, you know, to be false or vice versa? Oh, I don't know if I said this the last time I was on. It was very on brand to me, but now very on brand for the moment we're living in. The myth of the invisible hand of the free market, which is all the way up our asses and just moving our mouths with it um yeah it's failing us right now where are the masks where are the ventilators i just want a ventilator generally i want an amazon prime a fucking ventilator to my house and just be on extra oxygen no yeah it's uh it's a myth

and now we know it's a myth it does not deliver what we need i mean i mean we know it's a myth but will the myth will the myth makers allow people to know that it's a myth myth maker they're trying very hard sorry yeah i love it i went there why does the lipstick get all over my face yeah you are you are very wise and so serious right now. I know. I'm like, hi. So what do you do for us? I want to see you spread it out.

You started to, oh, it's impossible to keep on. You started to try to correct it, so you went like this, and then you went like that, and then suddenly. And then it was on my, suddenly.

That really is a new YouTube channel where I'm a man trying to do a beauty vlog who's learning as he goes how any of this stuff works i love this that's good content all right let's uh take a quick break and we'll be right back this summer the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.

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last week the wall street journal wrote an article noting that his daily briefings had become basically trump rallies where it's just about him and his feuds. And he tweeted in response, the Wall Street Journal always quote forgets to mention the ratings for the White House press briefings are quote through the roof. And then in parentheses, Monday night football bachelor finale, according to the New York Times is only way for me to escape the fake news and get my views across, Wall Street Journal is fake news.

Wow. So he's bragging about his ratings in the crisis that is killing more people than anything else right now. It's just surpassed cancer and heart disease as the thing that kills most Americans on a daily basis. And he's like, I'm a star. Look at me, baby. Yeah.

And that is, I don't know how we move forward as a culture from that tweet. I don't know also he's comparing himself to monday night football which isn't happening now right right what season of sports of sports ball are we in i forget but baseball basketball it should be in basketball baseball oh i thought that there was gonna be a number i thought you were going to be like season 7 yeah it's the finale this was the finale episode 6 or 5 or 6

this was supposed to be the penultimate episode of the NBA big twist but he doesn't understand how like also quotation marks work at all the Wall Street Journal always quote forgets which you could conceive okay that that works right like they supposedly forget but then he says my ratings

are quote through the roof which you would assume means they're not right right like he was asked recently whether he was being sarcastic remember when he he said that thing about Mitt Romney? He was like, oh no, that's too bad that he has coronavirus. You hate to see it. And the journalist was like, are you being sarcastic? He's like, no. Because he doesn't know what it means. He doesn't know

what irony or sarcasm. The right actually doesn't know. The difference between the right and left is only one thing. Do you understand irony or not? That's it. The right actually doesn't know. The difference between the right and left is only one thing. Do you understand irony or not? That's it. Yeah. The right, I think the right, the new

White House press secretary had this tweet from 2001. That was Kayleigh McEnany. 2001? That predates Twitter. 2012, I'm sorry. She tweeted how I met your brother dash never mind forgot he's

still in that hut in Kenya. And that I can see and I think I've seen people on the right be like, you guys don't know how to take a joke. But like that doesn't. What's the joke? They don't know how to make a joke. That's not a joke. There's no joke they don't know how to make a joke that's not a joke there's no joke

yeah yeah being being coy about like just you just saying racist shit full-throated in public is like what they think is humor it's like no yeah right i'm right that's just what i'm saying i don't believe that it's actually ironic yeah that's um anyways the usa today another noted left-wing uh communist uh publication just published an article at the end of last week about trump's week leading up to the declaration of a national emergency and uh all sorts of great photos of him golfing and shaking people's hands. Also talking about how nobody could have predicted this, even though there are documented cases of him finding out in January that this was coming. The White House was briefed in November that

something was happening. They ignored it. So not a whole lot new. It just seems like it's reached a new level. Yeah. Well, the whole thing is basically now I think they're pivoting to blaming the World Health Organization, like the WHO. And to a certain extent, I do understand that maybe they could have been more aggressive with perhaps really sounding an alarm. But everyone had the information available to them to begin making their own decisions. And that was clear with countries that have done, made aggressive moves to try and contain the outbreak. Um, but now I think they're feeling like, oh yeah, okay. We can completely pretend like people weren't telling us in no, as early as November, December of last year to keep our eye on this. And we'll just pivot to, I don't know, man, the WHO really boned us.

It's, you know, because the U.S. famously doesn't have any way to know what's going around the world in any way. We don't meddle in other people's elections or overthrow governments. But they should have told us about this little, this COVID thing. The other body that told the administration about this was the U.S. Army. So I don't know what they're doing. Listen, they're off, you know, on their ships. Galavanting around.

Full of coronavirus. I mean, that's the other thing. It's like he'll throw anyone under the bus to make it look like he has done a good job. And we all know, no matter how many people die, Trump will claim he did a good job. Even with the military, with the captain of the USS Teddy Roosevelt,

like getting basically booted off the ship and then the secretary of Navy having to fucking resign because he was slagging them off in front of his own sailors. There's talk like that, that, that captain may, I don't know about the time of this recording hasn't happened, but there is talk that that captain may resume his duty as captain of that ship because now Trump is sort of like like we're past that talking point in his brain so they're like all right i think we can get that guy back in his position even though we treated him completely disgracefully right i i don't know i mean the what has been very uh clear over the past couple of weeks is just like how much is been put on like states and cities

specifically of just like yeah I almost completely ignore what is coming from a national level at this point I'm like okay what's going on in my state what's going on in the state where my family lives and that's what I've been trying to keep up on because other because it's just like there's almost everything even from you know well-intentioned people on the national side who are few and far between. It's just like basically useless and really hard to trust the information coming from there. So I've just been focusing on state and city initiative. I mean, yeah, it seems like the way that this has been handled is so has become so localized that that's like the only reliable way to approach it because it's just like we're not going to get any good information from that administration in

what world would that happen that was another one of my search terms was actually what in my google search history was federalism because i've been looking at and like what i thought was federalism which clearly i'm not a great you know u.s history buff but i thought federalism was like, you know, the federal, believe in the federal government, like the federal government can dictate, you know, X, Y, and Z. But it obviously is the opposite. That is unitarianism or something with the word unit. Basically, federalism is, it is that like there are states' rights and everyone's sort of on their own and you know you see other countries being able to sort of like lock down and have like a directive coming out of the federal government and then you see the way our government is basically like nope

it's on the states like and you're like all right well in times of pandemic it actually is good to have the opposite of federalism now none of none of this, Trump obviously is doing his own special version of sadism, but just generally, maybe during a pandemic, we need actually one line and one directive. Yeah. Yeah.

Absolutely. I mean, the conversation that's starting to happen now is how do we get out of this? We talked about that a little bit at the end of last week, but the U.S. Surgeon General went on Fox News at the end of last week and was like, I could see some places opening in May, which seems. But he also was like, but I don't think it's likely. I was like, I wouldn't advise for that. He's like, it's possible. He said May 1st. Well, because, yeah, he's going along with what, you know, like Mnuchin and Kudlow, Trump are going out there

because they have to stoke the flame of Wall Street. Yeah, and they're just sort of like, yeah, man, I really think we can have this thing open by then. And he, you know, credit to all the experts who have to work with this president, who have to walk this weird line of like i know if i say don't give the full truth but people are smart enough to know what i'm saying without triggering the idiot in the white house to think i'm talking shit about him i can keep my job

because i feel like this information needs to get out but it takes a certain fucking ballet but yeah with the surgeon general he was just sort of like you know i yeah they're saying that it's possible but he's like like he said most of the country will not to be honest with you but some will but that's how we open the country place by place bit by bit it was just very like vague of sort of like yeah he should they have to speak in irony they have to be like right uh just air quote everything like some states will have to open but it would be better to have a coordinated response air quotes like like then you can get around because trump doesn't hear irony that is going to be interesting when they are reopening because it will be place by place right and like places that haven't had a problem like will be open well cities won't be open and you know we we also hopefully will

eventually have you know blood serum antibody testing so that certain people will be able to go back out there because they've already had the coronavirus, assuming it behaves like that. Those are the sorts of things that I can see people having a reasonable conversation about. But it does seem like those things are being steered by a, like we were saying, overall federal bullshit plan it's it's but it's weird to see like everyone i understand the need and desperation for things to get back to normal because so many things have been completely disrupted and there's been so much chaos created but there's like this thing where yes people can look very narrowly at what dr fauci says and says like yeah you know we're doing some trials on antibodies and things like that that's great then you also have reports too that in south korea that they're

seeing people who have recovered from covid are actually there's a reinfection possibility too so we're still not we actually still you know to use a fuck term from the muller period we just don't know yet like what exactly we're dealing with completely biologically and also part of being even able to open is that we have testing and we haven't even tested one percent of this country so it it's so odd to be like yeah that could happen that could yeah that could happen if all these other things happen but we're not even close there so why are we still talking about this? If you really want the government, if you really want to get things back to normal,

start putting that money into getting tests done and getting the right resources to people and figuring out how to get people out of these economic holes they were put into because of the terrible lack of planning. Like, look at that shit. Stop putting this data out there so traders can be like,

I don't know, guys, what do we think, man? Would we be more confident today? We just – not to plug, but I have a web show called Newsbroke. You should watch it. And this week we talked about – or last week we talked about how other countries, specifically in Europe and Australia, are handling the economic fallout. And the UK and Germany and the Netherlands and Denmark, they're all putting people on payroll. So they're like assuming 70 to 80 to 90 percent of businesses that can't pay their workforce. So that when, if and when all of this ends and social distancing ends, people are guaranteed their jobs back.

They're getting paid in the meantime. They have no problems getting them paid, getting their own citizens paid. And then they have their jobs when all this ends. And so just thinking about, like, we haven't even, again, the health side haven't even got that figured out. But, yeah, helping people where they're hurting, like, we're so far behind so that – and I'm scared, you know because i mean and not to get too serious but you know trump and and the right love to like be tribalistic and be xenophobic and pit us against other countries but man when you see that we're going to be like trailing behind economically in in the fallout of all this it's like we're even more ripe for the kinds of like hyper nationalist fascist

rhetoric than we were before and And that's, yeah. Yeah, it's weird because it's equal parts opportunity for the pendulum to swing either way pretty rapidly in one direction. It all depends on what explanation people are willing to be able to accept. And I think, you know, even with the whole China virus thing, a lot of the science points to the fact that the actual New York infection came from Europe. So this whole idea of like using these terms to try and like use coded language we're not even coded just directly tie the the virus to another country it's like i don't know if that's gonna i don't

know i mean we'll see but yeah that is definitely the the scary part in all of it it's like both comforting and infuriating to see how like so many efficient public systems have been put into place um in different countries where you're like i'm so glad that you know people in that country are able to get access to you know basic care during a horrible time but it's also it just you know makes you infuriated with your own country to be like it's so fucking easy you know and we have more resources than literally anyone if any other country can do it we can do it and we're just not and i mean we don't have the resources we have the most people hoarding the most resources that's true i'm sorry no disrespect to my king mr jeff bezos

i do think that it's also underrated how much better this would be going if we had and literally any other administration yeah and literally any other president like if it had been a jeb or what what the fuck ever like i don't think i don't think it would be like we'd be completely out of the woods but i do i do think like we can't underestimate how hard he is fucking this up and how at least bad it is for an organization that doesn't that uh as massive and impactful as the united states to not have any leadership at the top that isn't just focused on you know their ratings but i mean to the point about fascism, though, I mean, I keep bringing this up. In an article that came out even before the coronavirus thing story kind of took hold,

it was actually about like all the deaths of despair, like the fact that white life expectancy in America, white people's life expectancy is going down because they keep dying of alcoholism or suicide. They talked about how the US healthcare system puts an economic burden on Americans on par with the Treaty of Versailles after World War I that led to the rise of Nazism. So I mean, that's one of the directions we can go. People need to understand the stakes are incredibly, incredibly high, and that's one of the directions we can go. Like people need to understand this is the stakes are incredibly, incredibly high. And that's one of the directions we can go. Yeah. I mean, at least we know that this will hit red states equally, if not more so. I mean, we I don't think we've seen the surge of coronavirus cases in some of the red states. I mean, now we're seeing it in Louisiana and Georgia and such.

So like initially, I think a lot of there was a lot of fear that, oh, Republicans are going to make this about like the coastal elites and the urban dwellers and how, you know, they're spreading disease, you know. And obviously that is not the case. I just want to see in South Korea, they have like these images and maybe their propaganda. Of course, out of China, they're propaganda. But of just trucks just patrolling down the streets, just disinfecting everything, just spraying the sidewalks with Clorox. I want to see that. I just want one video of an American tank spraying down you know whatever like like fifth avenue spraying down a crowd of protesters spraying down exactly that's yeah they're already in use that's more america's style right yeah i think again like to your point and even what jamie was saying it seemed you know

this the people of america and the municipalities are bailing the federal government out because like at a local level people are scrambling to do what they can to like protect their communities and the federal governments are so far removed from it they can point to like yeah well i mean look it looks like it's being handled and act like you know what was the big deal here but there's such a the the emphasis that's put on people at a local level you know it's like this you know that saying of like the federal government's lack of planning has now become our fucking emergency yeah uh full full stop well let's talk about tv doctors because there is one group that we know we can turn to for guidance in these dark times.

Oh, it is in the doc. Big Knife, Small Wife. I was like, when are we going to talk about Big Knife, Small Wife? Yeah, let's start with Dr. Phil. Because, yeah, I mean, we don't want to turn to the expensive in-person doctors. We're talking the doctors who show up on our TV every once in a while, like Dr. Phil, who has been doing the media rounds. These are some headlines. Dr. Phil shares his top tips for coping with COVID-19 crisis.

Shut up, quotation marks. Dr. Phil says, stop politicizing coronavirus and listen to scientists. 10 ways to coexist in quarantine from dr phil uh he by the way as jamie noted he himself does not seem to be handling the quarantine super well uh there's a instagram post that is him next to his wife holding a giant knife with like a crazed look on his face and it says, big knife! Small wife! And she's like ladling fruit into her mouth.

She's enjoying the last few seconds of her life. I mean, this is the shining podcast that we need. The couples podcast between Dr. Phil and his little wife. I would listen to Big Knifeife Small Wife I would listen to Big Knife Small Wife

yeah it sounds like a couple show that is more like with those guys on QVC that sell knives yeah right

yeah yeah the sword community the YouTube sword community is real and it is out here and they have something to say was it a sponsored post? Dr. Phil Electroarmaments

Dr. Phil isroarmaments. Dr. Phil is not a doctor, by the way, obviously. He's a clinical psychologist. But not obvious to some people. He's a clinical psychologist who does not have his psychology license. He's not licensed to practice psychology. Okay, Jack, but what about this? He is Oprah's friend, so.

Think about that. Yeah, no, no, no, fair, fair. And he does have a, like when you compare him to other doctors, his knife is bigger than a lot of other doctors. Which is what I'm looking for in a doctor. How big is their knife? You have always said that.

Show me your blade. Show me your blade, man. If my doctor has a full on like katana, I trust. I mean, I don't care what the procedure is. When you go to a doctor'son, like, katana, I, you know, I trust. I'm in. I don't care what the procedure is. When you go to a doctor's consultation, you go to their office, you're not comforted by seeing a degree on the wall behind you. It better be a fucking saber or some shit, a cutlass.

The second they close the door, I'm like, let's cut to the chase. Where is your sword? He doesn't need PPE. Yeah. You're like, yeah, I went to Harvard went to harvard medical no no no no no no what kind of fucking steel you wield an asshole um well let's move on to doctors who actually went to medical school uh dr drew pinsky in recent months he claimed uh he's the celebrity rehab guy and the loveline guy in recent, he claimed that the coronavirus wasn't as bad as the flu and the, quote, probability of dying of coronavirus was less

than being hit by an asteroid, end quote. And just to reiterate, last Friday, it became the leading cause of death for Americans over cancer or heart disease on a daily basis. Americans over cancer or heart disease on a daily basis. But he did come out and made this profound statement. I wish I had gotten it right, but I got it wrong. So I wonder how many headlines that... Did you see the video, though? No. Oh, man.

He's doing a good job of totally eating the whole humble pie. Yeah. He's just like, so I got that wrong, and I feel really bad. But like I always said, listen to Dr. Fauci. That's what I said from the beginning. But yeah, I did get that wrong. And it was just sort of like, dude, shut up, doctor. Tell me about how people orgasm.

Dr. Oz is our man. But how big is his knife? Well, he has built enormous vaginas on stage on his show. So that's something. Any other questions, Jamie?

I'm sorry. I'm just gonna i'm sorry clearly he's a fucking feminist so why don't you did you see how big that actually harvested a gigantic pussy on live television so and i think i think he like walked inside it or had people walk through it. He's an ally. He's an ally. Yes, very clearly. So he is actually one of the better cardiothoracic surgeons in America, but he's also just completely lost his tether with reality. Fame has completely fucked him.

But so since the coronavirus outbreak he has made just a staggering number of appearances specifically on fox news uh where he's appeared 21 times since march 24th wow and he's been using these spots to uh hype the hydroxychloroquine or whatever the fuck however you say that hydroxy as a for weight loss way too many way too many syllables though i know like come on guys my mom used to write down consult a marketer before you uh but he is promoting it as a quote potential wonder drug for covet 19 uh he's been advising officials on coronavirus-related matters, and Trump told aides that he was interested in what Oz had to say and wanted to speak with him.

One official who works with the Coronavirus Task Force called Dr. Oz's involvement, quote, very annoying. Nice and understated. But if you're wondering if Oz is the reason that Trump is so all about that malaria drug for COVID-19, the answer is probably because he's, you know, the number one cheerleader for that on Fox News, which is where Trump gets most of his information. Yeah, I wonder if they have any stakes in manufacturers of that drug.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's the other thing is, I mean, this makes more sense to me. Like, initially, I was like, does he have stock? What's going on? Is he invested? And then now knowing that Dr. Oz has been pushing it and Trump only gets his information from Fox News, I'm like sort of comforted. But you're also like, how fucking stupid do you have to be? How idiotic you have to be to have been a reality star and know what happens on the other side of the camera, know how everything is fake, how everything you do is like orchestrated and choreographed for a specific response.

And then look at a doctor on television and be like, hey, what's that guy got to say? What's that TV guy got to say? No, you're giving him too much credit, Francesca. A lot of people I think look at TV as almost the peak level of existing, like that you can get to such a place of fame and fortune that your life is to the, like the echelon of celebrity you've reached. And maybe Trump looks at it as like, oh, that guy made it to the party too. That must mean they're pretty smart or like as ballers. And like, I, you know, like there's a sort of, there's a mysticism about the camera or something that I think you as a objective journalist person, someone who looks at the

world is like, yeah, this is the, the you know the inherent myth or lie about media whereas other people are please that's the fucking height you know is a fucking tv but it's funny because dr oz right he's talking about hydroxychloroquine when he talks about how good it is he cites this french doctor's research on the drug and he's like you know gave it to 24 people you know after six days 75 of them were good to go the thing is that guy's research was not peer-reviewed and the fucking results were put on youtube right that's what he also told hannity that the study eliminated the virus in 100 of patients uh which ignores the fact that three patients in the study were too sick to be tested on day six, and one of them couldn't be tested

because the drug gave them a bad reaction, and then there was another one who couldn't be tested because they had died. And he was like, nope, 100%. Dr. Oz is so fucking sinister to me. Because like you were saying, Jack, he was at one point a doctor that knew how to do things and then just completely allowed worms to be released into his brain

and still has like that I don't not understand why people would be inclined to listen to him I mean after this many years of spewing bullshit i don't really know but even like this the like weird little like dog whistling of like oh well a french doctor said this which i think is just telegraphing like france equals fancy equals correct like more butter in the food yeah i'm like it's oh it's so fucking sinister i

hate it his uh but this is actually completely in keeping with the thing that he got in trouble for that brought him in front of Congress to testify was that he kept promoting these magic pill health care or weight loss cures. And Congress was like, this is complete bullshit. You're lying to people. And his explanation was my job. I feel on the show is to be a cheerleader for the audience when they don't think they have hope. So he provides hope.

It just happens to be hope in the form of a magic pill that doesn't work. And yeah, I'm doing that now with coronavirus. Oh, wow. OK, you want to put me on manslaughter charges because I'm dealing fucking deadly opioids to people? What I'm doing is I'm supporting the addicted community and actually encouraging them to do what makes them happy. I'm sorry something happened along the way,

but I'm a cheerleader. I'm sorry I'm giving you hope. Yeah. Wow. Really cynical. Really cynical. I mean mean and that's the thing is like all these doctors are trying to protect their own asses which is so ridiculous especially oz because he's like you can make good money as a doctor doing your profession you know like under i understand other people who you know know, like Dr. Phil or Dr. Drew, but it's like, again, they're afraid somehow that coronavirus is stealing their thunder and that we can't get back to talking about, like, you know, masturbating with a light bulb or whatever in Dr. Drew's case. And people need to listen to him.

You need to shut the F up and just be like, no, no, no, professionals only. Goodbye. Like, I'll see you later. Like, yeah. Here's my recipe for chocolate chip cookies. Okay? That's it. Yeah.

I mean, and I think this is all a piece of what we were talking about before with, you know, America is going to go down in history like this whole period of you know stupidity and mismanagement will all be seen as a part of you know as a symptom of our just completely ruinous health care system and i think these people are also part of that people will look back at like dr oz and like the fact that we had fake tv doctors who people listen to as very you know indicative and uh it's all such bad writing too it's annoying you're just like i hate this show yeah anyways uh good writing shout out to uh our writer jm mcnabb for doing a deep dive into tv doctors he did a really good job on this piece.

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you know experiment like psychological experiment type thing uh that i i gotta give it to them they do have like an added level of uh slight tweaks you know that's all you gotta do tweaks yeah so what what is this one miles okay so we loved love is blind because we love to see people who are less equipped to be in long-term relationships than we are. So we're like, yes, but to be fair, I also have my own struggles. So this new show is called Too Hot to Handle. And so the premise of this one is they get a fuckload of just hot Instagram ghosts to gather in a tropical paradise for what they think is like your typical winner-take-all dating show. But no, this is where the twist is.

Just like Love is Blind, they were trying to cultivate real connections. What happens when it's about the voice and it's about the connections? This whole thing is basically saying, you fuck around and you give in to your horniness and do any kind of physical shit, it's going to be bad for you as a contestant on this show. So what they're doing is they're incentivizing abstinence as a way to facilitate these people to actually try and get real meaningful connections.

But as the show is set up, it's basically like, let's just put the hottest people together in a horny convection oven and just see what the fuck happens when we tell them they can't or you lose money because the way that I guess the way they incentivize it is there's a hundred thousand dollar grand prize for who is who abstains or basically the most but every time you violate and kiss or smooch or whatever fuck you lose part of that hundred thousand dollar pot so if you even win the show you might end up with like 50 bucks because you were just so horny but you still won but

everyone else but in a way but it's like you can't even lose that show because you're just like yeah i have two dollars to my name but i'm horny as shit and that's my truth like that is cool also they're all branded content Instagram models, so they can just be like, you know, brought to you by Trojans, you know, light touch or whatever. They win either way. I also think that like horribly hot people are sometimes the most asexual people. And like, you know, they're boring, number one,

and they're just like very obsessed with themselves the point of like like i can't imagine it being all that hot um but i will say that it sucks as a viewer because like that means we want to see them fuck and kiss yeah but like now we have to listen to their thoughts and yeah eight episodes Like, now we have to listen to their thoughts for eight episodes? About fucking and kissing? Yeah. Oh, it's so hard.

It's just, I want to like, yeah. Well, yeah, because I think the fun of it is seeing these people, like, men are like, I don't know what to do. Like, it's like, you just see like these couples like face to face in a hot tub, like air touching each other's hands. Like, we can't do anything because i'm also greedy so it's like this whole i don't know it's like wild to see these people process this shit also the muslim contestants will win immediately like if you're muslim like you know exactly this game you've done it your whole life mostly uh and it's called life the game is life and you will walk away with

a hundred thousand dollars absolutely hell yeah uh i was watching there was another one that was The game is called life. The game is life. And you will walk away with $100,000. Absolutely. Hell yeah. I was watching, there was another one that was like brought over. I think it was maybe just re-aired from a British channel, but it was like a really, really cursed adaptation of like a regular couple and then they just do man on the street bits

trying to figure out which one is hotter to the general public. And it's always one person in the couple wins by a large margin and then laughs into the face of their less conventionally attractive partner. And then that's the whole show. That's the whole show.

And then they change the one who got the ugly ratings outfit and then they show the picture to the general public again. And they score like 3% higher. It's really depressing. It's like, sorry, no, still not hot. Yeah, they're like, well, I guess you can put a lipstick on a person. On a Miles.

You can put a lipstick on Miles. But does his percentage change? We don't know. Yeah, I mean, i'll be coming every week with some new tips on beauty that i learned so tune in for that next week it'll be great there's where there is one show if they're just a trash reality show that i wish they brought back it was in england called sun sex and suspicious parents and what it would do is basically have like kids who are like in like early college years go like on like their

equivalent of like a cabo sort of cancun spring break trip but there are cameras like watching this this crew of kids the whole time and their parents are also there watching on monitors and it concludes with the kids being confronted by their parents based on all the footage they've seen from the week. Oh, God. Do the kids know their parents are monitoring them? No, dude. They think they're on the equivalent of MTV Spring Breakers or some shit, and half the time, it's parents either being like,

they're like, yeah, I knew my kid was a scumbag, or a mother being like, my daughter doesn't drink. My daughter wouldn't do that. And then they're like, I don't know what to do. I don't know. Anyway, for if you want trash things to find on, I think it's on YouTube.

Oh, I definitely need to watch this. Yeah. I don't like, I couldn't take Love is Blind at all. It took like just three monologues from that, you know, that Barbie perfectionist chick

who just be like, Jessica. Yeah, Jessica. And I was like, just be like, Jessica. Yeah, Jessica. And I was like, off, off, off, cannot at all. But I do think the premise of like, I would say like a year of dating and not being able to touch, that's fascinating to me. Not all hot people. We got to have, but just that premise of like,

we have to actually vibe on an emotional level. Yes. I like that. Yeah, you mean for a country like ours where we're so used to just like commodifying sex immediately where it's like, yep, great, yep. Sure. Or just me on usually a first date. I mean, I just want to be put through that test is what I'm saying.

You're right. Yeah, just no hugging. Okay. No hugging. Let's talk about what this year's Oscar race is going to look like, guys. Yeah. Vulture had a really interesting piece, just sort of contemplating, like, if, you know, the way things are getting canceled and social distancing is working, let's just for a moment

imagine what award season looks like if we took only the films that were theatric theatrically released pre-choir which would be up until about march 31st when everything fully like completely completely shut down places yeah so like they were saying like because around 50 movies came out or something like that every every film that came out has about a 20% chance for a Best Picture nomination. Sonic is James Marsden in Sonic the Hedgehog. That's going to happen. That's the question on everyone's mind.

Is James Marsden going to be in the category for Best Actor or Best Supporting Actor? Who's the actual star of that? Ben Schwartz as Sonic the Hedgehog. Yeah, Ben Schwartz, obviously, in the best actor. Mars in the supporting role. Carrie in the supporting role. Did Trolls make it? I mean, Trolls came out.

I guess, yeah, Trolls would be in there, yeah, in the running. That's a question I have. Is Trolls trying to come out right now, like, in quarantine because i've started seeing ads for trolls watch party that's yeah that's been my top trending hashtag for like three days is hashtag trolls watch party they're trying to make it happen so bad it's like please dreamworks please stop trying to make trolls watch you're depressing me trolls

watch party isn't going to happen. Yeah. But yeah, I think, I mean, like when you talk about bad boys for life, do you submit Martin Lawrence and Will Smith both for the lead? You might as well. You know?

Yeah. Yeah. I think you should. I truly think that if this results in Lizzie Moss getting a nomination for Invisible Man, Lizzie Moss, Invisi-Ma, I love it. Lizzie Moss, Invisi-Ma. Invisi-Ma, Invisible Mansters.

That movie was fun. Invisible Man was? Yeah. I think that's available to stream too, isn't it? That was one of the films they put out for streaming also. They put out weeks after it was out in theater. Yeah, they got that. And I know the original, like what?

There's a 2013 performance of Fleabag that's up too on Amazon Prime, I think. Oh, really? So, yeah. Everyone's coming out with some interesting stuff. And sadly, Coachella, rest in peace, was supposed to start on Friday. And the organizers put out a YouTube documentary for at the moment the gates would have opened

for the festival, they got a YouTube documentary about 20 years of the fest, man. So put your flower crown on. There's been some really good music. I got to give it to the music industry. They're still dropping great music right now. What's the Strokes? Yeah.

The New Abnormal? Like, what a fucking name of an album to drop right now. The New Abnormal. Wait, the Strokes just dropped an album? They did. Strokes just dropped an album. The New Abnormal. Holy shit.

I'm like a couple weeks behind. It takes me a long time. A weirdly good year for the Strokes. They got to do their Bernie concert. Right. That's true. I don't know. I'm on Downton Abbey.

That's it. I can't handle anything more dramatic. That's your only cultural intake? Yeah, that's all I can take. I just wanted to be Mr. Bates and Anna and that's it. I need that drama.

Immaculate Mr. Bates. Oh, so good. I saw the movie but then I'm going back and watching the whole series. It was the only movie where my mom had to tell me what was going on. Just like, go wash down with your parents.

Usually it's just the Star Wars and every year at Christmas I have to like whisper to my mom, yeah, no. Okay, Darth Vader, bad guy. Right. So, and then she falls asleep. That's his dad. Yeah. Then she falls asleep and wakes up and it's like i just like spending time with you guys they're like okay ma um it's very adorable she's old we got

to protect her but yeah downton downton is where it's at that's that's all i'm fucking down the real deal huh uh-huh um miles have you heard the the weekends new album uh i i was hopping around i haven't fully listened to it. I still need to listen to that and the Gambino one. Yeah, I've just been... I've been going retrospective. It's weird. I've been fully looking backwards during Quar.

I'm like, old movies, old music, old TV shows, old other things. Pink Floyd, right? Hell yeah, man. Pink Floyd, am i right pink floyd oh yeah man oh yeah dude you sound like me trying to identify with the kids pink floyd am i right gang all right what pink floyd are they streaming on the nintendo switch yeah yeah i believe so yeah they're performing at switch fest this year yeah Yeah, yeah. My new thing is VR. Have you guys seen the Pink Floyd concert in VR?

It's so tight. On an ayahuasca trip? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For real, though, are you guys working with Oculus right now? Is that part of your choir routine? Well, it's been entering the consciousness because our last guest, Michael Swaim, who works at IGN, was talking about the ayahuasca trip game he was playing. And every time I've put on Oculus, I've always liked playing that one beat game where you just beat the shit out of the things to the music uh because i started dancing with it but after hearing about the ayahuasca thing and the like environments vibe i'm like yeah let me go further out of reality as deeply as possible i almost i mean i'm not

trying to like not encourage tourism and you know the peruvian shamans need money but like maybe it's better if we all just stay home and do that on Oculus. Sure. Yeah. I think we've all been kind of regressing. I've been digitizing my family home videos, which has been... Oh, that's where that came from. Yeah, I got...

Is that where that came from? Yeah, I got some equipment. People should know what we're talking about. If they don't follow you, Jamie sang the national anthem at a minor league game? It was under minor leagues. I don't even know what they call it. Just a local softball?

It's the micro leagues. It was the Brockton Rocks, which I think it's under minor league because I think that they don't get paid, but they don't have to pay to do it. So I don't know what that is. They're just volunteering. You sang a wonderful rendition of the national anthem

as a 12-year-old, and we got a reenactment of it on today's episode. I was nine in that video. I was just a tall, stringy nine. Nine? Wow. Holy shit. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I remember my dad- Were you like 6'3"? I'm 6'7 at nine years old. My dad used to be like, Jamie, Bill Murray owns 2% of that team. He could be at a game at any time. Were you in comedy back then?

No. I was like, but there was no industry at that performance. Tragically. What? Tragically. It seemed like an industry hotspot event. Any other Quorax we want to talk about?

Anything anybody's getting into? Just letting the, waiting for the sweet embrace of death. Just putting on my consumer death drought. Pixar is really getting our family through this. The original Trolls movie is completely, completely cursed. So I'm glad to have Pixar because that movie sucks.

I was about to say. I'm not interested in watching the world tour. Well, that's so disappointing because I was going to say. I'm not interested in watching the world tour. Well, that's so disappointing because I was going to say it would be really fun to do a Trolls Watch Party together.

So that's a bummer. Yeah. Yeah. Hashtag Trolls Watch Party. Yeah. Everyone's talking about it. Let's help them out. Let's throw them a bone

and do the watch party. The trolls need us. Thank you guys so much. That means so much to me. Anna, what's her name? Anna and do the wife party. The trolls need us. Oh, thank you guys so much. That means so much to me. Anna, what's her name? Anna Kendrick needs more money. Yeah. I've been saying that for so long.

I'm glad you agree with me. The Marriott Bonvoy campaign is not enough. That is a very strange campaign. That's very specific. Is she one of the automatic, like she's always on the TV when you turn it on? Yeah.

Or not just that, or like if you're on an airline that it like partners with them, it'll be like a pre-roll on a flight where she's like a coach of a soccer team checking into a hotel. Yeah, they bought all of it. They bought her whole person.

All the Kendrick. Yeah, all the kendrick yeah yeah all the kendrick that she like she is 24 hours live streaming about how great marriott where do you guys think you're gonna be in like a month if this continues like right here in these same clothes like mentally right just long brain like are you gonna start you know you're gonna do a sitcom in your own home are you gonna start a cooking show like what creative beauty vlogging yeah that's his direction at this point i i think that i like lost the thread almost immediately and hopefully we'll just stay on that wave i think it's going to be harder to go back to whatever normal is because i think part of like

the first week was being in denial that i would have to do that for more than like two weeks or something and then i was like now hold on like i gotta like be able to operate like this so then i have to like begin to shift gears. Like, no, this is how, this is how life is going to be to then go back to like commuting and those other things. I'm more like trying to figure out what that's going to be like when I'm like, Oh yeah. Commuting is terrible,

but I do want to see people all the time. I just want to sit in silence. I want to see people. Yeah. But we don't have to talk. We're just there. I just want to go to a parking we don't have to talk we're just yeah i just want to go to a parking lot somewhere and just like kind of make awkward eye contact with people right my dad was like asking he's like are you like you know you you like are you trying to hang out with

your friends and stuff blah blah i'm like yeah yeah for sure i'm like but i realized too growing up as an only child like solitude is my main mode of operating so in a way unless like i definitely socialize with people on video but i notice even like her majesty she's a much she's more of an extrovert than i am in terms of like getting out there and doing activities like i see the toll on her a bit more than for me where i'm like like becoming like meditative master splinter yeah i think if you're an extrovert at this time it is hard and i don't like you know since i'm in la now i like know about the signs and you know you're a zodiac and whatever but i think like right now ironically gemini season the gemini's are incredibly

extroverted i think and this is like really really hard for me. All these people who are like, we can't celebrate their birthdays and they're real people people. I'm sorry. I also, to everyone that has ever told me, this is just my new system, to everyone that's like, oh, Zodiac stuff sucks. It makes me mad when people talk about Zodiac.

I would just like to say that people believe in Nate Silver as well and that my Zodiac, I would just like to say that people believe in Nate Silver as well, and that my Zodiac is correct more often. I saw that sub-tweet, Jamie. I saw that sub-tweet. Okay. And anyone who's like, Zodiac is bullshit. I'm like, well, if you've ever checked 538.com, we are the same. Okay. Relax. Yeah. Well, it's true because on one side, Jamie, you're not as invested in 538, but invested in astrology. Jack, not invested in astrology, more interested in Nate Silver. So it is the same coin, essentially. It does prove your point, I feel like.

I can't wait to get out of quarantine. I'm not fully sure about any of anything. That's where I am. Jack comes out of this. I don't believe in anything. Yeah. You come out with an astrology blog you're the new

Susan Miller after this oh yeah Queen Susan Miller Francesca it's been so wonderful having you on

the Daily Zeitgeist where can people find you follow you thank you for having me you can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at

FrannyFio F-R-A-N-i-f-i-o my name is too long otherwise and is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying oh other than my own oh yeah a tweet that i've been enjoying oh lord um pass uh come back to me come back to you jamie where can people find you and follow you? And what's a work of social media you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus-Hall or on Instagram at JamieCurseSuperstar.

A work of social media I'm enjoying this week is Jared Leto live tweeting his first time watching Parasite. Oh, what did he have to say? Was he into it? He loves it. He loves it so much but he he was like making memes about it as he was watching it so there's a Mr. Worldwide meme which is Pitbull holding the globe and the caption is this is just from Jared Leto's Twitter says when you're watching Parasite and you start to forget that you're reading subtitles and don't actually speak Korean. And then it's just a picture of Pitbull holding the globe.

And then Jared Leto wrote hashtag mood. Wow. Jared Leto loves Parasite and he loves reading. Okay, I found mine. Relatedly, I just followed Koreatown Life on Instagram, and I'm feeling it. They have a meme, social distancing world champion, dude from Parasite, quote, respect. And I love that.

Miles, where can people find you, follow you, and what is a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter and Instagram and PlayStation Network, Miles of Grey, also my other podcast, 420 Day Fiance, where we talk all things 90 day fiance a couple actually a few tweets i like obviously one i will say without saying look at the jamie loft is star spangled banner national anthem fucking epic it's the it's it's the new odyssey uh for our time we need right now um yeah another one is from julia moser at julia moser with four l's it says am i the first person who's been dumped via zoom um and then one more from actually uh listener zeitgang left brain mom at left brain mom one wrote down this interesting exchange uh that would have been

between jack guy montgomery and i when he was on guy is from New Zealand, so he has a Kiwi accent, and she put in this exchange, like, as if it were a Flight of the Conchords episode, Guy, he maybe did. Miles, he maybe did what? Guy, no, he maybe did. Miles, what didn't he maybe do? Guy, he maybe did. Jack, dead. Miles, are you guys fucking with me? Guy, he may be dead, not alive. Miles, oh. I'm having a panic attack. It's the new who's on first.

Yeah. Your name is Brit? Brit? Brit? We've all lost our minds. Eric Dadorian tweeted, TJ Maxx should do curbside pickup. You pay $40 and a robot pushes a random pile of stuff

through a slot. You get what you get. I'm a fan of good ideas right now yeah no more of this funny shit just give me good ideas i want your good ideas it'll be like a gumball though it'll be something crappy yeah but then like a real serving dish that's like looks fancy from far away but then up close it's made of plastic uh also this is something I just agree with from Chris Kelly hi everyone this is a random PSA for the movie contact I just rewatched it for maybe the 12th time and legit think it's one of my favorite movies of all time it's so smart and

lovely and deeply deeply moving if you haven't seen it, do yourself a damn favor. I like Contact. Lovely. Best alien movie. I love Contact. Do other people like Contact? What do you guys think of Contact? I fucking love Contact.

I love it. I haven't seen it. I bloody love Contact. I haven't seen it. Jamie. I'm sorry. This is a tweet for you. I was thinking about lying. David Morse is the dad isn't he

I love it it's a good one have you also not timed Dark Side of the Moon to the Wizard of Oz yeah what is wrong with you jeez thank god but I remember when I was in high school I liked contact so much and I told a

friend of mine that I really liked it and he saw it and like never he was like so mad at me for recommending it he thought it was so bad and that was the end of our friendship you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find

us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles what's that gonna be oh man well sorry you i'm caught off guard a bit because i was trying to figure out what the best nude uh shade is for me if I want

to go for a nude lip is it this is it your nipple color is it your nipple color that's supposed to dictate uh I don't know but I will say another really fun thing is going to MAC Cosmetics or Bobby Brown and they have like you can try on the lip colors in their little virtual boudoir ah okay so I'll go there I'll do some do some research uh over the next few days um but the track will go out on uh as i apply reapply my lipstick uh is from hailu mergia who's a ethiopian keyboard player who kind of has like a not a full-on sugar man kind of arc but he like was big in ethiopia in the 70s came to the u.. to try and get a pop in. It didn't quite go. He was, I believe, driving a cab in D.C.

and is starting to have like a bit of a resurgence again. But his music is great. And the vibes are just like it's this this recording is older. So it has a nice, I don't know, patina on the audio file. And I don't know. I don't speak Ethiopian. So I apologize if I completely botched the title, but it's Wede Harerguzo, W-E-D-E

space H-A-R-E-R space G-U-Z-O, and this is by Hailu Mergia. Good vibes. Good vibes to start your week with. Yeah, I mean, that was close enough, your pronunciation. Yeah, yeah. I'll let it go. Thanks. For people with basic music tastes

I really like Blinding Lights by The Weeknd that song's pretty good alright that's gonna do it for today's episode the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of

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