The Daily Zeitgeist - What About Ivanka? Jeff Bezos: I TOO Have Space Money 5.2.18

Episode Date: May 3, 2018

In episode 139, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Billy Wayne Davis to discuss the space race with Jeff Bezos, TMZ breaking it down to Kanye West, Ty Cobb retiring and being replaced by Emmet Floo...d, the White House coming for the DOJ and Rod Rosenstein, why Mueller hasn't questioned Ivanka Trump yet, Trader's Joe's new podcast, how baseball is still boring but trying, & more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:17 My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. The Jacker Barrel. That is courtesy of Derek Smith. Also, courtesy of the Zeitgang, May Day, when a plane slash ship is going down, comes from my days. That is my French accent. The casual French for help me. And that's how it sounds to English speakers. And love in tennis comes from leuph, egg, which is like the shape of a zero. Again.
Starting point is 00:02:44 As we call it goose egg out here. Yeah, my perfect French accent. And I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Uh-huh, you know Miles Gray is black and yellow, black and yellow, black and yellow, black and yellow.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Thank you to Carolina DeGroote on Twitter for pointing that out as we had a discussion over it. Yeah, yellow, not a good description of Asian people. But, you know, I was saying I was black and yellow for a while. I didn't even get it until just now. The original Jigga, you know what I mean? I've been out here with all the AKs. But thank you for pointing that one out.
Starting point is 00:03:15 And also, Wiz Khalifa, I see you doing Muay Thai, and it's very scary. Yeah, that is kind of weird, right? He's so long. Yeah, he's very long. But it's funny watching him. Praying mantis and shit. Now that he turned his, like, baby chest into. He's so long. Yeah, he's very long. But it's funny watching him. Praying mantis and shit. Now that he turned his baby chest into a man's chest, he's starting to look like a human figure. I wouldn't fuck with that dude.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Rather than one of those cigarette-smoking aliens from Men in Black. He does look like that. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious stand-up comedian, Mr. Billy Wayne Davis. Hey, everybody. Hey, man. The whiz is getting... i don't know there's been clips of him in the muay thai gym like doing i mean his hand speed is garbage but his legs are so long when he was doing like these flying me's i was like oh god if you caught one of those
Starting point is 00:03:55 yeah there's a lot of it would change your smile leverage yeah a lot of leverage from those limbs yeah he's loose too because he's all high billy wayne what is something uh that you've searched in the not too distant past that is revealing about who you are as a human being uh vpns vpns oh yeah virtual proxy proxy networks there you go you downloading some uh shit off bit torrent uh no more protecting. Yeah, your activities on the internet. And just like your family stuff and all that. I think that's the right move, right? Yeah, I mean, it's a must-use piece of software.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I think the older I get, everything I research, even if I think I'm sure where I'm saying, yeah, I'm sure about that, that means 85%. Right. Yes, we call it a virtual private network. But yeah, I'm sure about that, that means 85%. Right. Yes, we call it a virtual private network. But, yeah, I know we don't use them much here in the States. A lot of people are using them more in Europe and stuff. Yeah, the only time I used one was when I went to the Middle East,
Starting point is 00:04:55 and that's because some of the countries didn't allow certain stuff. Right, and that's usually why, like, the first time I got it was, I think I was going somewhere, and I was like, what do you mean I can't watch Netflix in Sri Lanka? Then I get a VPN. That did make me laugh where it was that easy to just jump over that wall. Yeah, exactly. Or I like to watch a lot of stuff in the UK, so BBC iPlayer, those are sort of geo-restricted.
Starting point is 00:05:20 So by having that, you have access depending on how you use it. See, I didn't even get to that angle of it. And you VPN into a specific location. So, like, if you want to watch Netflix, you VPN into the United States. Yeah, look, I'm not a hacker. I know everybody in the Zeitgang has plenty of savvy people. But what I imagine is, yeah, you can sort of say, like, you can have it operate as if you are in a certain location and have access to certain things. Dope.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Cool. Cool. But yeah, so cool. You've been searching that. Yeah, I've been trying to find the best one. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated? Twitter.
Starting point is 00:05:57 All right. Just as a place to write, as a place to get your news, all of the above? At this point, all of it, I think, as a technology, I think it's outdated itself, if that makes any sense. Yeah, we've gotten past peak Twitter. We're in the final days. Well, I don't know the final days, but it's clearly gone past the best version of it was.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yes, yes, I think we've ringed out its value. Yeah, and it's funny because even there are people who will tweet at us like, hey, I joined Twitter just to holler at the Daily Zeitgeist or whatever, and I'm always like, I'm so sorry. Don't look around. Do not look around. I'm sorry. Don't.
Starting point is 00:06:35 You don't get out of the building. It's not that cool. To any of the Zeit gang listening right now, you don't need to be on Twitter. You know what I mean? You can holler at us through other versions of communication like Facebook. I don't know. How do we even talk to people anymore? Email. Yeah. That's great. Email. Yeah. holler at us through other versions of communication like Facebook. I don't know. How do we even talk to people anymore? Email. Email is great. Email. Or Instagram.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Instagram. I like Instagram. I just got verified on Instagram. Oh, look at you. I'm bragging because it was... You're literally flexing your muscles right now. Exactly. My manager and agent were like, they were like, we're going to verify you. I was like, I'm good. It's fine. Yeah. And they're like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:07 You can on Instagram. It actually you can sell tickets and do stuff like that. Right. And I was like, oh, well, then there's a value to it. Right. Aside from the it's the look of the status of it. I never cared about because come on. Unless you're Lil Tay, who has been bragging about being verified for the last two weeks on Instagram. Unless you're Lil Tay, who's been bragging about being verified for the last two weeks on Instagram. Was that? That was a past story about this nine-year-old child who's been posing with thousands of dollars,
Starting point is 00:07:36 and no one knows who this girl is or where she comes from. But she was in a fight with the Cash Me Outside girl. She rose to prominence through that. Yeah. So she's nine? Very cool. That's what she said. She said, i'm the richest nine-year-old out here i'm verified flexing on all you broke-ass haters all the time it's very classist it rubs me the wrong way so you know i try not to do it you know get too involved with that she's a rough growing up yeah yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:07:59 hey those nine years man i'll tell you also how does she have that money rough almost decade she's been living i can tell i'm old because i'm just like uh where are her parents and also man she would get her ass kicked uh both of those things are probably not the first thought you should yeah i don't know a nine-year-old kid at school coming through with like racks of dollars talking about flexing all you broke haters i'm snatching that pile of money and I'm buying Pokemon cars or Tamagotchis or Beanie Babies or whatever the kid's buying. A lot of skins and stuff on Minecraft. Yeah, thank you. Thank you for updating that.
Starting point is 00:08:32 That's where a lot of children's money goes to now at this point. It's a good scam they've got. I've had to explain to my son, like, let's talk about the tangibility of where you're spending your money. How old is your son? He's eight. Eight, wow. Oh, yeah. So you're up on mind. How old is your son? He's eight. Eight. Wow. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:46 So you're up on all the crazy newfangled bullshit. Oh, I know it all. I know when it comes up. Or Roblox or whatever that one is. Yeah, Kristen Schaal is in every cartoon that's been made in the last 10 years. Oh, her voice? Oh, really? It's impressive.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Holy shit. I am mad at her. I love her. No, and her voice is, you know it when you hear it. Yeah. Yeah, there's several of my friends where I'm like, oh, you're making a ton of money and not telling anybody. Man, that voice game is not a game.
Starting point is 00:09:11 It's not a game. It's an industry, in fact. Yeah. Tom Kenny. You know who he is? Yeah. He's the voice of SpongeBob and everything else. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Yeah. And I know him from Mr. Show. Yeah. Right, right. Yeah. He's a great interview because he not only is the voice of everything but he loves being the voice of everything he will just like break into whatever voice right like it's just he that that's a special skill like I went and did some
Starting point is 00:09:39 some squid Billy stuff a couple weeks ago and I'm bragging about that. That is one of my character came back this season. I was like, do you want to come? I was like, yeah. I always forget the money part. My manager's like, get paid. They'll pay you. I'm like, ah, yeah, that's so great.
Starting point is 00:10:00 But just being in, I was in one of those voiceover studios, and some of those dudes come in and out like him yeah that's a it's what they can do and the way they can do it it's like oh i'm just a i was just raised in a certain region that's why i'm doing this yeah but you have a thing that is chameleon mouth yeah it is crazy to watch them just there's like different spirits in their body. It's crazy. Yeah. And just generally having a talent, like being the best at something and also really loving the thing you're best at
Starting point is 00:10:32 is like such a, I don't know. It's fun. It makes people like really vibe with you even more, especially because I feel like there's always videos on Reddit of like being like, hey, read this thing as this character. And people are like, ah! Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And he always obliges. And it's fun because you can tell he likes to do character. And people are like, ah! And he always obliges. And it's fun because you can tell he likes to do it. And it's just, I don't know. Mark Hamill seems like that. Yeah, exactly. He seems like someone that likes being Mark Hamill. You know what I mean? Where it's like, thank you for liking that.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Instead of just being like, yeah, I did a voice that I was mad at and now I'm a millionaire. Well, right, and I think it's also someone who kind of looks at their own skill and says, wow, it's afforded me a life of luxury or access or whatever, and so why have a tortured relationship with it? I think those are the people who are really like,
Starting point is 00:11:17 wow, I'm lucky enough that I got to do this thing that I love, so why be shitty about it? You know what I mean? Those people really, I like that attitude. A lot of times you should want to be Luke Skywalker because millions of people want to be Luke Skywalker. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I feel like a lot of those people a lot of the time they will either the success will come late or they will have like a dry period that will make them sort of be like oh shit. Take things into account. They were trying to get good at it
Starting point is 00:11:49 instead of trying to get famous at it. Right, exactly. It's that dry period. It's usually when it's like oh, for a while they didn't make any money because they didn't believe in themselves because they knew the art form so well that they were like I shouldn't charge people yet. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:12:04 And then something happens and they're like I'm gonna't charge people yet. Right, right, right. And then something happens and they're like, I'm going to charge people a lot of money. Right, right. Have you ever seen a bird where you're like, man, that bird loves flying? I like to catch them in a draft. Yeah, just like soaring. And they're just doing it because they can.
Starting point is 00:12:21 It's like, you'd think you'd be tired of it, but man, that must be fucking awesome. I have the opposite response. I'm like, fuck out of here, birds. Think you're better than me? Yeah, you do always yell at the birds in our neighborhood. They're trying to make me jealous because that's their privilege.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Check your privilege, birds. At the same time, it is inspiring. Billy, what's something that is underrated? Diplo. Okay. I've just, what's something that is underrated? Diplo. Okay. I've just got into who Diplo is, what he is.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Not a dinosaur. He's not. I mean, he could be. Could be a Diplodocus. But like his lifestyle is fascinating and inspiring. So explain who Diplo is. I'm familiar with his.
Starting point is 00:13:03 He's like, you know, he's like a DJ. DJ, producer, I like a lot of his remixes. Songwriter. I'm familiar with his. He's like a DJ. DJ, producer, songwriter. I mean, he started the record label Mad Decent, and he does some nonprofit stuff. He owns a publishing company where I think that's how rappers get most of their money. Oh, yeah. You got to own your publishing.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Yeah, because that's where all the money comes from is writing the music. Right. So that alone is genius. And then you look at who he, he's also responsible for that song Paper Planes by M.I.A. Yeah. That alone. Is he really?
Starting point is 00:13:34 Yeah. I didn't know that. He and M.I.A. kind of are responsible for each other when they found each other. They kind of blew up once they found each other. But I think that song alone, Paper Planes, makes the movie Pineapple Express a classic movie instead of just a really funny movie.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny how music can do that sometimes. Oh, and I think who does that better than anybody is Todd Phillips. Yeah. The way he uses, he spends a ton of money. Yeah, getting those songs. If you hear some of the songs he uses.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Oh, like he got Kanye before Kanye was shot. Yeah, that's true because because you see those music, and you're like, I usually don't hear this artist in a film, which means they probably cut the fucking check. So much money. That's a heavy-ass bag. But that's why his movies stand out, I think, Todd Phillips. That's true, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I mean, can do a lot. And, like, yeah, I remember when M.I.A. was still first coming out, I found out through this mixtape called, like, Piracy Funds Terrorism mixtape series. That was him. Yeah.A. was still first coming out, I found out through this mixtape called Piracy Funds Terrorism mixtape series. That was him. Yeah, exactly. And that's when I was like, who the fuck is Diplo? And then the other producer, Switch, who was also working with M.I.A., that whole
Starting point is 00:14:34 world was crazy. And then, yeah, people don't realize how long he's been in the game. And he doesn't drink or do drugs. I think he smokes a little weed, which I don't consider drugs, but it's like this, he just prints checks. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Prints fucking checks, and then some people were like, you know the DJ, and they're like, yeah, he is, but also, it's just he gets paid a lot because he's famous.
Starting point is 00:14:57 That's how that works, I think, right? Yeah, you notice too that the way he speaks might indicate he's from the South, huh? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:04 He's from Tupelo, Mississippi. A friend of mine who's a musician was like, you need to that the way he speaks might indicate he's from the south, huh? Oh, yeah. He's from Tupelo, Mississippi. A friend of mine who's a musician was like, you need to check this dude out. That's how I got into who Diplo is in the last couple. And then I got on his Instagram stories and heard his voice. I was like, where is this motherfucker from? Right. Because he sounds like a couple of buddies of mine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And just kind of talks slow and a little. He's a smart ass. So I was like, I know this dude. Yeah. There he is. And that's like, I know this dude. Yeah, there he is. And that's when I got really into it. I was like, oh, I'm going to. Because he's so worldwide.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And he's from Tupelo, Mississippi. Right. It's just fascinating to me. People making fun of the South all the time. You need to check who's from there. You don't need to talk to a lot of people that still live there. Do you think he's a perversion of Tupelo, Mississippi? Oh, without a doubt, because he went to Florida, too. Yeah, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I was talking about this early aughts mixtape that I loved by this dude, Low B, and I could never find him. And people were like, oh, you're talking about Low Budget, who was part of Holortronics with Diplo. who was part of Holotronics with Diplo. So yeah, I was just thinking like, man, I need to like read more on Diplo because apparently he's just like always where all my favorite music is. Yeah. I need to check that dude out.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And finally, Billy Wayne, what is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? That jury duty is a panel of your peers. I was just on jury duty. What did that panel look like? Well, first of all, it was 50-something people. I guess I can talk about it now.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I got dismissed. I was there for five days. Oh, Jesus. I kept having to come back because I was deep in the numbers. Oh, shit. Oh, because you had to go in on Monday, and then they're like, sorry, I'm going to have to come back Tuesday. Sorry, I'm going to have to come back Wednesday. Wednesday. Sorry, I'm going to have to come back Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Wednesday. Thursday, we were off to Friday and Monday, so then I had to come back again on a Tuesday. Right. You get $15 a day. Mm-hmm. That's it. Right. So I got a $66 check.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Ooh. Because they did some kind of weird math with whatever the limit. Your commute is to, right. But it's like straight. They don't do like any. Like roads, yeah yeah right but it's like straight they don't do like like roads yeah it's like straight it was a medical marijuana case and uh as soon as i heard that i was like just let me talk right now you're gonna let me go right right exactly but sitting there it was fascinating either how misinformed people were about marijuana one lady said it was
Starting point is 00:17:23 against her religion it was really hard not to read. What was her religion? Oh, you can't ask. That's the most frustrating thing. When they talk, you can't be in the panel and just raise your hand. You're like, yo, can we get some backstory on what the fuck she's talking about?
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah. Are you a, is Jeff Sessions your Christ figure? I mean, it was like, and then some people you can see are figuring out how to get out of it. Right, right, right. And then I was just very honest as soon as I found out it was like, and then some people you can see are figuring out how to get out of it. Right, right, right. And then I was just very honest as soon as I found out it was medical marijuana. I was like, oh, I'm going to get out of this just by telling the truth.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Right. But also, $15 a day. A friend of mine brought this up. He's like, you can't tell me that doesn't affect justice. Right. Where it's like, a lot of people don't want to be there. Right. It messed up five of my days.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Right, right, right. Five. I mean, granted, I don't have a regular job where I have to be somewhere. Right. But everyone else pretty much did. Yeah. And the whole time you're just like, you can see people in their head like, I'm losing this much money being
Starting point is 00:18:25 here right right right exactly so i want to make a lot of people fucking angry in there too yes i've never been in like a holding room with potential jurors with relaxed people no no people were mad and then the people that want to be there you're just like what is wrong with you right right they're like i want to put someone in jail yes Yes. Yes. That whole thing, like, that's a very real thing. Yeah, there are people, right. Where you're like, I don't. But that is a bias, right? That bias is who the panel is going to be.
Starting point is 00:18:53 It's going to be retired people. It's going to be people who, like, have some weird, like, acts to grind. Yeah. I've been to jury duty, like, three times. And the only time I did it was like when I was in college and like hated my summer job and so like didn't actively try and get out of it. So I was on like a wrongful death case
Starting point is 00:19:14 with a bunch of other people. Yeah, it's like all retired people. You have the life experience to be thinking about a wrongful death too as a dude trying to get out of a college job. Right, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Just gotta have a good opinion on things right but yeah it's a very specific type of person yeah i was uh tip to la people try and go to the burbank courthouse i was in east la oh yeah if you
Starting point is 00:19:37 go downtown there i mean they have a lot of cases going through there but when i was in burbank they were like yeah we only have one courtroom open right now. So I think we're not even hearing anything today. I've gone twice and been asked to go. Yeah, I did Santa Monica. And they were like, does anybody, is it not convenient for you to be here because of work? And half of the people just moved to the section they said to move to. And they're like, all right, later. I'm like, let us go after two days.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It's fucking wonderful. They're like, hey, any of y'all not trying to be here at all? Yeah, basically. Oh, okay. This judge was like, he took his time asking people to get, and then when it was my turn, I was like, I am prepped for this. Right. There were three, there were four defendants.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Three of them had public defenders. One of them couldn't speak English. Mm-hmm. Is it for possessing medical marijuana? No, it was like running a dispensary or something? I think it was some kind of weird zoning. Right, right. And when it was my turn, you have to say if you've been arrested before,
Starting point is 00:20:37 and I've definitely been arrested before. And one of them was possession of marijuana. And then I could tell when you had to say your job and I was like, I'm a comedian. Right. I could feel all the eyes. People weren't paying attention. Right. And they're like, oh, he's going to say something funny.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Okay, this guy is fearless. And at one point the judge is like, you can say anything you want. We're not going to judge you here. And without even thinking, I was like, I don't care if you judge me or not. That got a huge laugh. Nice. And then I just said, listen, I'm a patient for medical marijuana.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And then the judge made this big thing the first day about how you don't want somebody in there to get into the jury and pollute it and to get, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I said, I'm gonna tell you, if I got on this jury, that's what i would do because since citizens united passed right the laws aren't being made to represent the people there you go so and lawyers are like get him oh this oh but the defense attorney's eyes lit up
Starting point is 00:21:37 and they were smiling and they're like keep talking yeah because i was polluting what i knew what i was doing and i said i was like and it's obvious there's three public defenders here. No one made any money off this. This is a weird political case. Right. And the judge goes, OK, I understand what you're saying. Thank you very much. Like you cut me off real quick when I was getting on my soapbox. I was like, so I don't understand. And he was like, well, you understand, like, could you separate who makes this law? Because this is like a zoning. And I was like, no, I understand that. And my problem comes with who is regulating these laws and zoning. Right. Is it a marijuana conglomerate or a representative of someone with a ton of money? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:22:20 So they're just boxing out the little people. Right. And he goes, okay, so we'll just get to the thing. Could you blah, blah, blah? I was like, absolutely not. So we'll get to the part where we kick you the fuck out of here. Or just talk about jury nullification. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:33 And then they'll really get you the fuck out of there. Yeah, it was clear they were going to. You don't want people knowing about that. And when I said this is a clear political case right there, it was like, I'm out of here. But what if I wanted to nullify this law, as a jury member? Like, oh, don't let people know about that power. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:51 All right. Let's get into the stories of the day. We want to start out with the fact that Jeff Bezos is entering the space race. This is the world we live in now where, you know, instead of being nations in space races against one another, it's just like two very wealthy men in space races. Yeah. Because they, you know, are having somewhat of a dick measuring contest. Whose dick can go further into space, basically. Who's back inside them.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Whose science dick can go further. Jesus. Mine's smaller. But moves faster. But more efficient. Yeah. So Bezos actually had some interesting things to say. He was talking about how the solar system can easily support a trillion humans. we would have a thousand Einsteins and a thousand Mozarts and unlimited resources,
Starting point is 00:23:45 which I think is an interesting and underrated part of progress and the history of progress. People keep talking about how much progress is speeding up and how science and technology is moving really fast. And I think a big part of that is, and people have speculated that a big part of that is that we have like a huge population of people and we're also you know creating a form of government that more than any in history uh actually lets you know a large portion of the population contribute and have a voice and you know i mean in the past like there's a reason to an extent in theory yeah more so than in history is all i'm saying in the loose in a broad loose sense we are moving in the right-ish direction yeah the idea that the solar system can support a trillion humans is he saying that we're
Starting point is 00:24:39 gonna have to inhabit other planets because i guess i think that's guess as he goes on, he was saying that, I believe that in that timeframe, we will move all heavy industry off Earth and Earth will be zoned residential and light industry, which is crazy to be like, okay, move all that shit off and then Earth is just a big apartment complex.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Yeah, I think the way he's envisioning it is that it's going to be like factories and shit like that. Like all the stuff that's like belching, gross smoke and shit that we now just relegate to new jersey uh will actually be on other planets and you know there will be those like giant oil refineries and they will just rename that planet new jersey this it just sounds to me like a rich dude very aware of his legacy at all times. Sounding, because all of this is not new.
Starting point is 00:25:31 It just sounds like basic science fiction. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah. So, but it's like a grandiose rich dude who's like, now I'm now the richest man in the world. In the history of the world. In the history of the world. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:45 And what I foresee is what everyone else foresees. Yeah, that we cannot live on this planet forever. And we need to go further. But I'm the one who said it first and the loudest and can control the message because I have all the billions. Most money. Yes. I mean, yeah, exactly. I don't think he's really sitting at home being like, let me really theorize about space.
Starting point is 00:26:07 You know, he talked to some people and was like, yeah, okay, that makes, yeah, I could put more money into that. All right, fuck you. What, you need a billion? Okay, great. Yeah, he was like, I'm going to liquidate a billion of my Amazon winnings every year for the next foreseeable. Way to see your wealth. Is that what he calls it, winnings?
Starting point is 00:26:22 His winnings. Oh, he's a piece of shit. Exactly. Converting my Amazon winnings into space. There's an interesting article in Bloomberg called The Massive Prize Luring Miners to the Stars, where it talks about the amount of resources
Starting point is 00:26:34 in all the different asteroids that are just within visible distance from Earth, and the amount of resources, like there's like $100 quadrillion worth of just raw resources that you can mine these asteroids for. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:26:52 You just got to bridle them and ride them and break them. There you go. So it's like Armageddon. You just get that same crew of like deep sea drillers out there and start mining the fucking asteroids. Just go to strip clubs throughout Houston and Beaumont, Texas. Exactly. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:10 We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.
Starting point is 00:27:41 And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer.
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Starting point is 00:29:11 Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition.
Starting point is 00:29:38 It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Santos! Santos! Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of my Cultura podcast network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Hi, everyone. It's me, Katie Couric. Have you heard about my newsletter called Body and Soul? It has everything you need to know about your physical and mental health. Personally, I'm overwhelmed by the wellness industry. I mean, there's so much information out there about lifting weights, pelvic floors, cold plunges, anti-aging. So I launched Body and Soul to share doctor-approved insights about all of that and more. We're tackling everything. Serums to use through menopause, exercises that improve your brain health,
Starting point is 00:30:51 and how to naturally lower your blood pressure and cholesterol. Oh, and if you're as sore as I am from pickleball, we'll help you with that too. Most importantly, it's information you can trust. Everything is vetted by experts at the top of their field, and you can write into them directly to have your questions answered. So sign up for Body and Soul at katiecouric.com slash bodyandsoul. Taking better care of yourself is just a click away. And we're back. And we wanted to do a quick check-in with Kanye because there was some news in the world of Kanye
Starting point is 00:31:29 since last we spoke. He stopped by TMZ to do one of his patented Kanye-slash-Trump rants. Straight rant. Where he just goes Kanye jazz on the inhabitants of the TMZ office. And one of the places that he ventured was talking about slavery and saying that slavery was a choice. Yeah, that I think officially signaled to most of the world that Kanye has left Earth
Starting point is 00:32:02 and is now joining the rest of the sort of out of touch people and the unread unlearned people who are conflating free thought with critical thought because yes again after that and he got flamed clearly for saying something as inflammatory and absurd that slavery is a choice that's why by definition it is called slavery. Anyway, look, don't get me spinning my wheels on this. Man, words don't have definition. But then he had to back it up because then there's this whole Twitter hashtag of slavery was a choice, which, shout out to Twitter. One of the few times you like
Starting point is 00:32:35 Twitter is because in mass people have put their senses of humor on display to talk about such an absurd notion like slavery being a choice. But then that obviously because Kanye's ego will not allow him to say that he was ever wrong. He was like, you see, that was an idea I had. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:51 And I don't really believe this is an idea. And see, that's my free thought. Once again, I am being attacked for ideas that I'm putting out there. What did he say? Some bullshit. It doesn't even matter. Like essentially, you know, you can't use the free thought defense to back up when a hot take blows up in your face. So he's confusing freedom of thought with not knowing how history works, which, yes, not being aware how things have actually happened frees your mind because then you think anything can happen or you think, yeah, maybe slavery was a choice.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Who knows? Because you haven't read about history. You don't actually know. then you think anything can happen or you think yeah maybe slavery was a choice who knows because you haven't read about history you don't actually or you don't know what the word slavery means right exactly yes that that by definition it's always not a choice it's always the people who who know the least history and sometimes very smart people who just don't know anything that actually happened or don't know like what words mean that confuse freedom of thought with just being able to think whatever the fuck you want, whether it has any coherence to the truth. So it's consequences. It's freedom of consequences. Right. I want to say and do whatever I want without anyone else reacting to me.
Starting point is 00:34:07 And you're like, well, that's not how anything works. And also, he's a really, really talented music producer. There we go. Yeah, exactly. Let's treat him like that. Yeah. Well, I think the outrage just becomes just becomes again because the content of his music seemed so aligned with everything that is not what he is right now that the reason why he's in the
Starting point is 00:34:30 news that people are getting over the shock of being like oh this guy was i think just selling this idea of empowerment and shit just to sell records without and then right and then but they can't also it's i think it's even harder to grasp that a person of color would sell that out so quickly. I'm not black, I'm OJ. Yeah, right, okay, exactly, okay. As soon as that Kanye stuff started, that's the first, I didn't tweet it or anything, but that's the quote that came to my mind. Right. Was like, he's living in a bubble now.
Starting point is 00:35:01 No, exactly, 100%. And to me, he's more proof that it's rich versus poor more than color or any other group. 100%. He is the proof of once you get a certain amount of money
Starting point is 00:35:15 in a capitalistic society, you own a lot. Yeah. It's power. And you've left the real world. And you are not. Roseanne is another
Starting point is 00:35:25 fucking example right so suffice it to say he thought he was at tmz just to get some clicks and say some crazy shit and after he did his really cool take on history he then posited to the entire bullpen at tmz what their thoughts were on his new ideology. Do you feel that I'm feeling, do you feel that I'm being free and I'm thinking free? I actually don't think you're thinking anything. I think what you're doing right now is actually the absence of thought. And the reason why I feel like that is because, Kanye, you're entitled to your opinion. You're entitled to believe whatever you want. But there is fact and real world, real life consequence behind everything that you just said.
Starting point is 00:36:10 And while you are making music and being an artist and living the life that you've earned by being a genius, the rest of us in society have to deal with these threats to our lives. We have to deal with the marginalization that has come from the 400 years of slavery that you said for our people was a choice frankly i'm disappointed i'm appalled and brother i am unbelievably hurt by the fact that you have morphed into something to me that's not real that is what i think every most people wanted to say to fucking kanye to his face for the last couple or last week at least so yeah that was von lathan just a tmz reporter tmz guy yeah and the most appropriate time for that stephen a smith cadence right
Starting point is 00:37:00 exactly yeah that's when it's called for right now no 100 and you could tell that kanye was as like when you look at the shots of this exchange go down he's kind of thinking like oh wow like his gears are going because he's having to have a moment he's like well none of the sycophants around me talk like this that's it and i think that it was an interesting moment for him because he goes everywhere and everyone kisses his ass and blows smoke up his ass like he ain't saying shit that's fucking wrong or completely ignorant and then cut to someone who is outside of his circle you know taking him to task on all the shit that he's saying was it live when that happened like was it being broadcast yeah no that video i think was cut together but
Starting point is 00:37:39 i mean okay that was a moment that had just happened but it's also not in his controlled environment and everything, like not in his studio. No, no, because he sat down first. When he said the 400 slate, he was with like Harvey Levin and the dude with the dreadlocks. That's when he said that other shit. And then when he got up, that's when he was like,
Starting point is 00:37:57 well, what do y'all think? And that's when the people in the bullpen were like, actually, yes, I have something to say. So yeah, shout out to Von Lathan. And again, yes, I don't think we need to discuss as much further because, you know, there are even studies that find that, you know, wealthy people are less cooperative
Starting point is 00:38:13 when income inequality is visible to them. They are less likely to share. Like there was a game that was set up, I forget what, I think it was at Yale, where they did a bunch of experiments where they were like people from around the world. They just they grouped them into online networks to play this like economics game. And each participant was given like an income.
Starting point is 00:38:32 So like some person was going to be wealthy, some person not so much, some person like middle class or whatever. And when they said, OK, here's the game. If you cooperate, you will be contributing some of your wealth. You'll give up some of your wealth. So everyone else's fortunes go up. But if you defect, that means you pay nothing and you can still reap the rewards of other people paying into you to lift you up. Now, when those people saw what they had relative to other people, people who had the higher incomes were not willing to share. When the inequality was invisible, everyone was more likely to cooperate with each other. So like already you begin to like, just when you know you have more, there's just this thing,
Starting point is 00:39:10 this part of us or certain people that just sort of does not allow them to sort of like, you know, there is a phenomenon that that sort of wealth status can affect how willing you are to- It's like a lizard brain thing. Right. It's like, yeah, they become immediately defensive. They're like, whoa, well, you know, people are going to think that this is unfair because it is. Well, I had the thought,
Starting point is 00:39:32 like if I was a billionaire, it was because of what Michelle said at the end of her thing where she was like, Flint still doesn't have, I was like, I just thought of like who the richest people were.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Like they could throw a check. $50 million. Fix that. That's all they need. And then I started, I was like, well, a check and fix that. $50 million, that's all they need. And then I started, I was like, well, if I had $50 million, what precedent are you setting for blah, blah, blah, understand that thought.
Starting point is 00:39:52 But then it was like, oh, that's why I would never be a billionaire is because I couldn't keep that money like that. I would have a certain amount of money for me and then everything else would just be because of the way i was raised right like i've read those studies like that too where it's like people with money it's not that they don't think of community as much because they don't have to right and i learned that when i was in a fraternity in college like i look back it was like was not a
Starting point is 00:40:24 good experience at the time or anything. I had fun in there sometimes, but looking back, I was like, but I learned how people that had money operated. Right. So there was times where I just didn't understand how they thought because I was like, no, we're putting this money in. We're all going to do this thing. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:40:42 No, no, I got it. It's like I'm taken care of. Where I was thinking of the group as a whole. And so it was like, I remember being very frustrated and not understanding that. But as I got older, looking back, I'm like, oh, they weren't dickheads. They just, it's something that never occurred to,
Starting point is 00:40:59 it's weird thing to have empathy for bad people. Yeah, and Kanye's around a bunch of people who will just say yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So that coupled with his ignorance is a very bad combination. Yeah, and the idea that you just mentioned of it being more a thing of rich people versus poor people, I think is the most dangerous idea in America. The idea that people do not want anybody to have which I think there's a reason that Martin Luther King Jr. got killed once he started pointing that out and RFK got killed when he
Starting point is 00:41:36 started point like made poverty instead of like anything else his main mission and then I also think RFK got killed because his dad fucked over the mafia, if we're being honest. Well, they were both focusing on that and got killed in the same year. Well, on paper he was focusing on that. Cue the curb music. But I think on the other side of the coin,
Starting point is 00:42:00 the idea, like having Kanye come around to the rich people's side and be like a cultural force that people from all economic strata identify with. That's why you're seeing this like outpouring from the right of people being like, yes, finally, we got one. Like we got somebody who can like convince them to just be cool. Because like you're saying, Kanye doing this also further deepens the racial
Starting point is 00:42:26 divide too which is a key element to not getting people who are disenfranchised to not focus on race and be like wait hold up we're an entire class of people that is being affected like this and with kanye doing this kind of shit it further distracts people from the idea of this kind of the haves and the have-nots of sort of like being like because now everyone's like you know within the community of people of color it's like yo what the fuck is this dude talking about and now it's just all about what is this guy doing trying to figure him out what's going on blah blah blah when really it's like no let him go we have better work to do it's just like there are there are people who actually him and ben carson let him go oh yeah ben carson is he's gone but he's the same if you, and I'm not talking about race at all.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I'm just talking about the same kind of, the man is a brain surgeon and brilliant brain surgeon. Right. That's it. That's it. Yeah. That's it. He doesn't need to do anything else. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Like, I have a friend who works at a hedge fund. He doesn't run it. I don't even know how he got the job. It's pure nepotism. It has to be. But he talks about it. He's like, we get a lot of doctors money because they think they're good at other stuff. He's like, a lot of doctors don't have money because they just throw money at the dumbest stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Like goats or llama farms and stuff like that. Because they're like athletes. Because they're really good at one thing. Yeah. They think they're good at everything. Yeah. And it's like, that's what's happening to Kanye, is we build him up because he's good at beats. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Well, hey, look, I'll wave from Earth as his spaceship goes off. Right. See you, bro. He's good at beats. I'm back when you wake up. Let's talk about some other stories. Ty Cobb is out. He is quote, retiring from
Starting point is 00:44:08 Donald Trump's legal team. This is the guy who has all along been somewhat unnerving in how steadfast he was and being like, no, we're going to cooperate. Of course we'll cooperate. We have nothing to hide. Even though his mustache made him look like a fucking Looney Tunes fan. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:24 He's like Wilford Brimley. Got a hold of his diabetes. His diabetes. Got a handle on it. He's retiring. They're bringing in a guy by the name of Emmett T. Flood. I mean... How's that not a fictional... It's like a
Starting point is 00:44:39 minor league baseball players of names. I mean, Ty Cobb is a major league name. Yes, a major league racist. Just one of the best racists of all time. But Emmett T. Flood has a history of defending presidents and working in White House counsel's office. He was on the team that defended Clinton during his impeachment. He represented Bush regarding executive privilege. So he has a history of being involved when the most powerful person in the country is in an adversarial relationship with somebody who's coming for them. And that appears to be the direction things are taking.
Starting point is 00:45:18 There's no more. What's he do when he's not defending the president? What's his like in between he's just a lawyer he's a conservative lawyer yeah okay yeah i mean as someone that has hired lawyers you do want the conservative that's right you really do right because they're exhausting and they take care it's smart yeah well no this is clearly a choice because, you know, prior to this, it was seemingly we'll cooperate. I'm now bringing this person in means, OK, we need to fight this shit. And it seems like now would be the time considering all the pressure that people are in the orbit of the Trump campaign.
Starting point is 00:45:56 It's mounting. They're tooling up. Oh, they're like, I mean, look at the Republican congressmen that are announcing their retirement. It's just jumping off the ship. Yeah. Just get out. I guess more aggressive legal strategy now. It's crazy that we feel like the news is crazy right now,
Starting point is 00:46:13 and we're probably in the calm before the storm, where things are about to get really crazy. This is the episode before the penultimate episode in Game of Thrones. This is where everybody's just getting ready, and we think that this shit is hard to keep up with. before the penultimate episode in Game of Thrones. This is where everybody's just getting ready, and we think that this shit is hard to keep up with. And there's a blood orgy coming. It's like the first scene in Gangs of New York,
Starting point is 00:46:36 where all those underground rat people are sharpening their claws. You're like, oh, fuck! And then you don't realize they're about to emerge from the underground and just let the blood spill in the streets. And that's when we'll be like, oh, Brendan Gleeson just smushed that guy's head with a club. Oh, they're killing each other. Yeah. I walked into that movie five minutes late and way too high. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:46:55 My friend turned to me and goes, are we in the right movie, man? Oh, my God. It was so fucking intense. I remember around that time, my high school football team was about to play in the championship game, the CIF Finals. And my mom was like an academy member or whatever. So we had the screener and the movie hadn't come out yet. And I was like, y'all need to come over and see this scene before y'all go into battle. And played it for them.
Starting point is 00:47:17 And everyone was so pumped up. Because that gritty snare track that's playing and a weird flute. And shout out to Notre Dame. When Daniel Day just walks in and plants his fucking foot. air track that's playing and like a weird flute and you know shout out to another day just like walks in and plants his fucking foot man he that character the way he plants a foot it's just like yeah you're not gonna move me off of this who is this son saint michael and what did he do he cost the devil from paradise god that's a weird time for you guys to laugh there. Anyway, so yeah, the storm is imminent.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Oh, yeah. Because if you look at it, too, there's even, you know, the Freedom Caucus guys are even trying to, you know, leak articles of impeachment against Rod Rosenstein. Yeah, how'd that go up? Well, the thing is, I said this a couple weeks ago, they're clearly manufacturing a conflict to try and create some kind of pretext to fire Rod Rosenstein. That happened last week when they were like, oh, we need these Comey memos. If you don't give them, I mean, what the fuck? You need to, you know, that's contempt of Congress.
Starting point is 00:48:13 New thing now is they're leaking these articles of impeachment. And, you know, these guys are like, well, you know, that's a last resort. Clearly, you're just trying to publicly exert pressure to further this narrative and try and be like they're trying to basically threaten the DOJ into compliance because they want things like you need to look into Hillary's emails again or you need to talk about like how these FISA warrants were given based on the dodgy dossier. Like, you know, it's just all this bullshit that they're hanging on to defend the president. And so when that happened, everyone was like, you know, Rod Rosenstein was on C-SPAN. They're like, hey, what do you think of this? Listen to this response from Rod Rosenstein. There have been people who have been making threats privately and publicly against me for quite some time.
Starting point is 00:48:55 And I think they should understand by now the Department of Justice is not going to be extorted. We're going to do what's required by the rule of law. And any kind of threats that anybody makes are not going to affect the way we do our job. Yeah. So he said, pull up with that energy because I'm here. I got Ogun waiting for you. It is like, I feel like as a parent, that's what Mueller in the investigation feels like. They're just standing there where it's like, I know you guys are and what you're trying to do the kids are just like coming like no it's it's uh it's
Starting point is 00:49:29 it's but it's also and they're like that's why i need a new nintendo see this one has water on it and just like every excuse they're like well what about this and this and the kids like well and just lie on top of lie on top of lie and you're like you need to stop talking and just take your punishment when you're being manipulated by somebody who like thinks they're smarter than you but they just like don't know what that you know about all this shit yeah it's like i was just hanging out with her majesty my girlfriend as i call her her majesty's niece and it's the same thing like when a kid's really smart and you can just kind of see that they're working you. Part of me just likes to be like, okay, let me let this rock
Starting point is 00:50:08 because I want to see how you, like, where you think this is going. And I'm sure, like, they all are too because everyone has said, you guys are so transparent with what you're trying to do. You need to learn to read your mark. Yeah, right. That's what I need to teach my son too most of the time. Right, right. Yo, part of this scam you're running is you need to know if they're buying the scam or not.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Your mark selection is off, my man. Let me show you how to run a real scam. Let's go into this Target real quick. Exactly. Now walk with a limp. Yeah, this dude, Pet Boys, tried to scam me. And I just started laughing. And we walked out and my son goes, what just happened?
Starting point is 00:50:44 And I was like, well, see, when he quoted the first price as like $1,500, that makes it seem like the real price is a lot lower. Right. You know, and he was like, oh. There you go, there you go. He's like, that's what we like. Teaching him anchoring, that's called anchoring.
Starting point is 00:51:00 I was like, yeah, but watch what people are doing, man. Yeah, yeah. I'm talking about the Overton window. You thought it was a joke and I was like, and it but watch what people are doing, man. Yeah. I'm talking about the Overton window. You thought it was a joke, and I was like, and it was, but it's also another thing. Right, right, right. No, I mean, it's, again, it's just, everyone's getting in trouble day by day as it's
Starting point is 00:51:16 happening. And now there's even, like, speculation about, like, what's going on with Ivanka and stuff, too. Yeah, this was an interesting story on Politico. They asked the question that I guess I hadn't even thought of but yeah ivanka's allegedly at the center of all this shit like she many many things at the center of most of the scams like she is involved she's like the one that they send over and does the yeah well she has you know she lobbied for paul manafort to join the campaign
Starting point is 00:51:42 she was in bedminster when uh Trump decided to fire Comey. She was on the plane when they were trying to figure out how to spin the Trump Tower meeting. And again, there are ways to look at it. On one side, they could say that despite those things on paper seeming like she is involved, it's very possible that her explanation is during the Bedminster thing when Comey was getting fired, she was with her kids. She wasn't with her dad. Yes, she was there, fired she was with her kids she wasn't with her dad yes she was there but she was with her kids on the plane she was like on the back
Starting point is 00:52:08 of the plane doing her own shit or whatever taking those ambient from dr ronnie exactly and so like yes there are a couple theories as to yeah like how the fuck has she not been called in now the nicest one is that look muller's is being very careful and not taking any unnecessary risk because again it is possible. Others are still watching her. Yeah, right. That it's possible that she may have been at those places and may not have done anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Or, you know, she was in many meetings that he's already interviewed people that were also there, so there's no need to double up because there aren't many times when she's exclusively the only person that was, like, worth talking to. Then you could also say that Mueller's being careful because he probably does want to talk to her,
Starting point is 00:52:48 but he can't do it yet because that will put Trump, if he's a Tesla, it will put him into insanity mode. And he'll just try and rage fire the entire DOJ. He'll burn Twitter to the ground is what he'll do. And then because obviously his closest and most favorite partner and child that he's ever had. And so now we know that things look a little murky, but also the one that Politico points out, her DC enemies, their theory is that Ivanka knows so much that Mueller is getting all of his ducks in a row to be able to corner her like legally before he questions her. And he basically knows like that'll be the finale, the grand finale.
Starting point is 00:53:30 The New Yorker reporter who wrote about this being the final stages of the Trump presidency in the sense that there is no conceivable future where they are not just completely overwhelmed by scandal. A lot of the financial crimes that he talks about, she was like the main point person. Right. Like, so she's probably going to be in trouble, almost definitely going to be in trouble one way or another, whether it's during this presidency or after this presidency. So, you know, she got her hands dirty and like they have emails where she and Don Trump Jr. I think are emailing back and forth being like, man, hopefully people don't catch us in this financial crime we're committing. Like they're just like really real dumb about it. Yeah. So yeah, but I do think he's probably wise if he's not, you know, tripping that alarm. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Not a normal relationship. No. Who, him and his daughter? Just the way he feels about her seems... Sexual. It seems sexual. It really does. All right, we're going to take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:54:35 We will be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. Harold R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground.
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Starting point is 00:58:51 First up, Zeitgang, I have to say we have to declare war. It is time for war because Trader Joe's has launched a podcast, and we must destroy it. Now, I don't know what's really motivating my anger here. I don't either. I don't really either because I kind of fuck with some of the shit that you chose. It's more just, I think, funny
Starting point is 00:59:10 because now everyone has a podcast is really what this says. I don't. Oh, well, look, you're on here. Well, I'm working on one. Yeah, you're working on one. Exactly. Man, you gotta verify checks.
Starting point is 00:59:22 You don't have a podcast? She's doing it to my manager. That's the one thing she won't say every time she talks to me. How's your podcast? I'm like, here, listen to it. Yeah, well, they got their shit together. They listened to their manager because they have launched today Inside Trader Joe's. And it's like a five episode limited series.
Starting point is 00:59:38 But it's like, they talk about everything to like how they develop their products. Like, you know, how the tasters, you tasters weigh in on how shit should work and things like that. So if you really, really, really, really want to know about Trader Joe's and the workings of it, you're in luck because they have a podcast. And they even say there's even a sad explanation of why Trader Joe's sells individual bananas.
Starting point is 00:59:59 So there might be some dark backstory. You know what they don't talk about on that podcast? Parking. Because they don't think about it ever. No, absolutely not. It's not something that company thinks about at all. It's parking. Anyway, everyone has a podcast.
Starting point is 01:00:11 And also, fuck Trader Joe's podcast. I'm just waiting for my parent or one of my parents' friends to be like, oh, a podcast. Have you heard of Trader Joe's? Yeah. Like the way they do it with like cereal or this American. Right, right. And this could be the next cereal.
Starting point is 01:00:27 But another thing, because Billy, I know you're a very big baseball fan, a former player, that the Rockies are doing something very interesting called the Business Person Special. Now, that is not a massage parlor deal. This is a deal for $21. A business person, someone who just wants to do work, can get a standing room only ticket with a ledge to put your laptop, a cheeseburger, fries, and a beer, and Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 01:00:52 So you can now work at the ballpark because baseball games are so slow moving, they're like, fuck it, you could probably do work here too. That's smart. Yeah. It's what we call in the industry a two-screen experience. In the world of bullshit marketing phrases i mean but what's funny is like i think in uh the denver post that like someone a couple people went to a couple games and like yeah it's mostly people just taking advantage of like the deal they're like a
Starting point is 01:01:16 couple people that did have laptops they were having to deal with people like spilling beer yeah so they're still working it out but But again, I think it does make sense. Because clearly I think there's an attendance issue at Major League Baseball games, especially during a day game. Because there's 162. Yeah, right. Every team plays 162. So it's like you can't fill 40,000 people. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Even when they're good. Yeah, no, seriously. I mean, a fucking midweek day game, rest in peace, if it's not during the summer. Like, just, it's not many people have that time. I look for those just because that's what, that fits my schedule. Right. And there's still not enough of those,
Starting point is 01:01:53 the midweek day game. Yeah, there's not. How many are there maybe, like once a week? A lot of them are Sundays. Right. Sundays is like the day for it. But to me, a Wednesday noon 130 game, come on.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Yeah. That's perfect. Well, if you have the free time. I'm also like, yeah, and if I lived in the 1950s where there's only baseball so I could just skip out of work.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Right. I'm already a little drunk from work anyway. Yeah. Yeah. That was like one of the excuses. It's like tuberculosis or you got tickets to the game. Those are excused absences from work. yeah that was like one of the excuses it's like tuberculosis or
Starting point is 01:02:25 you got tickets to the game those are excused absences from work Billy it's been a pleasure having you it's always a pleasure where can people find you at Billy Wayne Davis on Instagram just go there cause that's gonna be where I put most of the information
Starting point is 01:02:41 and then or just google Billy Wayne Davis I have a record out and then I'm around of the information. And then, or just Google Billy Wayne Davis. I have a record out. And then I'm around L.A. the next couple weeks doing stand-up. And then I'm going on tour because I'm getting ready for a special. Oh, nice. In the fall. So I'll be touring quite a bit until October.
Starting point is 01:03:01 So look out for those dates. Yeah, look out for Billy. Go see him. Please. One of the funniest dudes I've ever seen. I'm good live. Really good. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Starting point is 01:03:13 G-R-A-Y. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes! We link off to
Starting point is 01:03:29 the information that we talked about in today's episode. That is going to do it for today. Miles, what are we riding out on? Okay, so we have a song by Taylor McFerrin, son of Bobby McFerrin. And Taylor Swift. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:44 If Taylor Swift and Bobby McFerrin had a child, it would be Taylor McFerrin, son of Bobby McFerrin. Actual son. And Taylor Swift. Yeah. And Taylor Swift. If Taylor Swift and Bobby McFerrin had a child, it would be Taylor McFerrin. This is his oldest son, Taylor McFerrin. Really great musician. This is a track called Place in My Heart with this vocalist called Riot, R-Y-A-T. And it's just a dope little track. Production is dope. And it's in seven.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Not a time signature most pop music listeners are used to. So, you know, vibe out to this piece. And it's hump day, so just get over the hump with this track. Why would they do it in seven? No, because, hey, man, odd meter, man. You know what I mean? People just like to do things different. I like that.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Everyone's so used to one, two, three, four, two, two, or three. You hear one, two, three, two, two, three, four, one, seven? Woo! And, like, take five is in five, you know? Do-do-do-do, do-do-do-do-do-do. Like those sort of off-meter things. That's for the people who like listening to music. Yeah. I feel like that's like how you sort of flex your grasp on the music.
Starting point is 01:04:35 So keep this song and just enjoy yourselves, guys. Just keep on keeping on. And we'll be back tomorrow because it is the Daily Podcast. Talk to you guys then bye keep on Keep on stopping hard, hard Keep on stopping hard, hard Keep on stopping hard, hard Keep on stopping hard I can hear you down
Starting point is 01:05:35 On stopping hard Hidden underground On stopping hard Your waiting key has Reve revealed to me You're not in a place That seems very safe And some days I had a hard time even smiling And lately I couldn't lift myself up
Starting point is 01:06:24 I couldn't lift myself up I couldn't pull myself to stand And I say heart, keep on stumbling And I say heart, keep on stumbling And I say heart, keep on trying. Oh, because dear love, you're sinking Dear love, keep swimming Dear heart, just keep on pounding Keep on pounding your heart, man. Keep on pounding.
Starting point is 01:08:08 And I'll stay hurt. keep on stumbling And I say love, keep on trying And I say love, keep on trying That place in my heart That place in my heart That place in my heart That place in my heart I'm trying to be a star I'm trying to be here
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Starting point is 01:10:14 or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years.
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