The Daily Zeitgeist - What If Jack From ‘Titanic’ Lived? Secretary of Drool 7.24.19

Episode Date: July 24, 2019

In episode 439, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, podcaster, and film critic Vince Mancini to discuss laugh tracks, a preview of the Mueller testimony, Joe Biden's prep for the upcoming debates, the mail bomber's Trump obsession, the fall of the Commerce department, Louisiana officers being fired for their Facebook posts attacking AOC, China investing in the US movie industry, why Leonardo DiCaprio doesn't want to talk about Titanic, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Canned laughter 'makes jokes funnier'2. With Three Simple Answers, Mueller Can Speak Volumes3. Nadler: DOJ directive to Mueller is part of 'ongoing cover up' from Trump administration4. Biden, Scrutinized for Crime Bill, Unveils Plan to Reduce Mass Incarceration5. Biden announces plan to counteract mass incarceration6. Here Are the Lineups for the Next Democratic Debates7. Mail Bomber’s Trump Obsession Contributed To Radicalization, Lawyers Say8. TRUMP’S COMMERCE SECRETARY KEEPS FALLING ASLEEP DURING MEETINGS9. ‘It’s a disaster over there’: Commerce reaches new heights of dysfunction10. 2 Louisiana police officers fired over Facebook post suggesting Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez should be shot11. Japanese And Taiwanese Flags Removed From Maverick's Jacket In New Top Gun 12. Leonardo DiCaprio (sort of) addresses the Titanic door controversy with Jack's death13. Could Jack Have Fit on the Titanic Door? Let's Examine the Modern Cinema Debate of Our Time Through the Years14. Watch Kate Winslet prove once and for all there was room on the door for Jack in ‘Titanic’15. WATCH: Kilo Kish - San Pedro Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 92, Episode 3 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck coke industries and fuck Fox News. It's Wednesday, July 24, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. If the Zeitgeist only knew.

If the Zeitgeist only knew. If the Zeitgang only knew. That Miles was still in Italy. You're right. That is courtesy of not by the hairs of my chin chin. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, or is it? Mr. Miles Gray. I wish Miles would step back from that pod, my friend. Cut ties with all the mics that you've been recording in.

And if you mention Tuscany again, I would understand. Thank you, Kawhi Leonard Cohen at Gotham City JCC for that one. Just saw Third Eye Blind recently. Did you? Live, yep. Just on the street? Busting? Nah, I wouldn't go to their shows. You know, I follow them around. For real? Live, yep. Just on the street? Busting? Nah, I wouldn't go to their shows.

You know, I follow them around. For real? Yeah, down in... You follow them? Like a deadhead? Like a fish fan? Blind boys, we call them. Blind boys of Alabama.

Me and the blind boys, you know what I mean? That's where the blind boys of Alabama come in. Right, exactly. Yeah. Being fans. I was actually really impressed that you were beatboxing and singing at the same time. Yeah.

That was really clean. I don't know. I mean, I was a Rob Zell fan, so I decided I'd try it live on mic for the first time. Well, it paid off. Yes. You're very casual about it, too.

I'm a little worried, but... All right. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the very funny and talented Vince Mancini. Hey, you guys gonna have to pay for those songs or is that like covered by a parody? No, it's actually, we've had our lawyers listen to an episode and they said that our singing is bad enough that it's unrecognizable.

Yeah. Well, they said if anything, we open ourselves up for some kind of like assault charge. Right. How bad it sounds. That's right. How you been, Vince? I've been great. I've never made my lawyer listen to any of my podcasts. Oh, that's good. That's why he's still my lawyer.

Yeah. I need a lawyer. That'd be good. Tell me about it. Yeah. Well, Vince, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today. We're talking about laugh tracks because we need to bring them back into podcasts. Are there any podcasts that have laugh tracks? I don't think so.

There should be. I mean, one that isn't meant to be a radio play that has an audience, like one that they're aggressively laugh tracking. Yeah. It should be like a Gallagher podcast. Yeah. He should have a podcast. He had a podcast, I thought, for a second.

Until his brother stole it. Right. Smashed this pod. It was conservative or something, or maybe I'm mistaking that. We're going to do another Mueller preview because he has gotten some marching orders from Trump's team. We are going to talk about Joseph Biden preparing for these upcoming events, these upcoming debates by preemptively avoiding dodging some smoke.

We're going to talk about what we've learned about the MAGA bomber from last year, how he descended into being the MAGA bomber. Wait, was that last year? Was it? Or this year? I don't know, man. Time flies. Who knows, man? Damn. Wait, was that last year? Was it? Or this year? I don't know, man. Time flies. Who knows, man?

Damn. No, it was last year. We're going to talk about Commerce Department telling Wilbur Ross to get the fuck out. Kind of. Louisiana cops being fired for saying AOC should be shot. The fact that China runs the movie industry. And the fact that Leonardo DiCaprio still won't answer the question we all want to know, which is why he killed himself at the end of Titanic.

But first, Vince, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Let's see. I don't have my search history. I just have my browser history. Right. Yeah. Let's see. I don't have my search history. I just have my browser history. Right. Yeah. Let's see. So I was reading about Oliver Stone asking Putin to be his godfather.

To be his own godfather? Yeah. I mean, I'm just fascinated with Oliver Stone's brain in general. Yeah. It's like all of the bad boomer opinions, but just combined in ways that you almost never see. the bad boomer opinions but just combined in ways they almost never see and it like like the boomers he peaked in the early 90s and like since then it's just been like yeah i saw him at like a thai food restaurant in uh in east hollywood once and it was exactly like you'd imagine where his

head looks like three or four sizes too big and you can just like hear him talking from across the room and it's like about topics that you would expect Oliver Stone to be talking about. He's talking about JFK. Right. He's talking about Russiagate. It was great. Wait, so what did he, he was asking Putin to, is that a real thing? So like Oliver Stone's like 70 something years old, but he's still convinced that he's like an edgelord. And so he like went from like the Russia threat is overrated to Vladimir Putin is good, actually. And he had this conversation with him about how the anti-gay propaganda law that they have in Russia, which is basically like their blanket excuse to, I don't know, crack down on homosexuals.

He has like a biker gang that goes around and beats up gay people. Yeah, he has a paramilitary. And Oliver Stone's like, yeah, I wish we could have a law like that. That sounds like a good idea. Really? Yeah. So he's just like a right-wing homophobe now? Kind of, yeah.

He went so far left that he like came around the other side and he's like far right. Yeah. Or shoe. He had like some anti-trans stuff. Yeah. Or shoe. He had some anti-trans stuff. He's like a non-feminist turf somehow, and then also a Putin is good, actually, guy.

Yeah. Which is an opinion you rarely hear. Yeah. Takes some flexibility. Depends on what podcast you listen to, though. You can get that opinion on Red Scare. What is something you think is overrated? Mr. Rogers.

Oh, shit. I know. That's a controversial take. I don't know. He became everybody's idea of their favorite guy. He became an example of all the best of us. And I tried to watch that documentary. And I don't know.

I just can't take his... I thought he was creepy when I was a little kid. I still think he's creepy. I don't know. He might be great. He just gives me the creeps he always has. Some people are fancy on the inside. Is that what he said? That's what he said one time, which is also indistinguishable from what a serial killer would say.

Yeah, he sounds like a cult leader. He just reminds me of Marshall Applewhite when he talks in that part. But he doesn't have the cult eyes. Right. Marshall Applewhite had the eyes. His eyes are giving you a very fatherly hug. Yeah. Marshall Applewhite's eyes were like...

All hands on deck! Woo! His eyeballs were trying to escape from his head at all times. But he does that thing where he talks really slow, like the Rajneesh guy from Wild Wild Country. I think there's a cult leader thing where they talk really slow like the rajneesh guy from uh uh wild wild country i think there's a cult leader thing where they talk really slow and so you think they're profound somehow because you're like having to think about every individual word that they say but in that guy's case it was just he was really high on heroin when you see uh mr rogers so you just get the creeps yeah like listening to

him talk uh yeah it just it hits that part of my brain that cult leaders hit. And I know he's not that. I mean, he might not be a creep, but he acts on my brain in the same way that cult leaders do. When you said he's overrated, I was like, oh, shit, he's about to drop some fucking story right now that we don't know. Because that's like the one thing I think every person dreads to hear is like, is Mr. Rogers ever going to be canceled? Yeah. Are they going to cancel him? Don't do it.

I mean, the guy that the new movie is about is trying to cancel him and he just can't. He's uncancelled. It's the uncancellable Mr. Rogers was the title that they tried to go with. Wasn't testing very well. Yeah. That's one of the X-Men.

He's just, that's his power. He's uncancellable one of the x-men he's just that's his uncancellable he's just like super problematic we know he gets in trouble for it just yeah uh yeah it's interesting i wonder how much of him never being problematic is just that he was not like enormously powerful in his time like if he was having the moment that he currently is having when he was still alive where he was just this like international icon of like folksy american gandhi like if he would have maintained his sanity but he was still just a public radio public media normal dude while he was still alive. Yeah, and I think it just

shows we almost have an inability to believe that some person could actually just be that kind. Yeah. We're like, I don't know, man. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. That's what everybody says. That's why he's overrated. It's like, oh, I think he only seems creepy because no one else is that nice.

Maybe, or maybe he just talks really slow and, yeah, I think he only seems creepy because no one else is that nice. Right. Maybe. Or maybe he just talks really slow. Right. And, yeah, I don't know. He's got all the hallmarks of a zombie. Yeah, and everyone's projecting, like, a grandpa they never had onto him. Right. I need that. I need that.

Yeah. Both him and Weird Al were people who, in my early 20s, I was, like, when I was, like, kind of going through my cynical stage, I was like, those guys suck and stuff. And then I came back around on them. Like an eyes lord. Yeah, I was just riding my skateboard around with a backwards cap on,

being like, double barrel, middle fingers. Those guys suck. But with the whirly top on the top of your hat. Exactly. I was Bart Simpson. For the record, I love Weird Al. Okay, well, there you go. What is something you think is underrated?

Underrated, I would say Gloria, who is the cashier at my local El Pollo Loco. She does a wonderful job. She makes me have a great day every time I go in there. And I know that part of it is she's just the face of the delicious chicken that I get.

And the people in the back who season the chicken, they're probably doing all the hard work. But, you know, she just greets me with a smile every day. She really is like the best cashier of any place that I've ever had. Right. That's awesome. I feel like we have a very – it's an important relationship in my life. And does it make you feel bad for eating El Pollo Loco every day? No.

And not only that, she does the thing where she – you off a script where they have to try and upsell you things. But she does it with such a smile and such a pleasant attitude that I don't begrudge her trying to get me to sign up for the El Pollo Loco app or try some chips and guacamole for $2 extra. Do you ever fall victim to that? Absolutely not, no. Oh, wow. Yeah, no. Just as kindly back, you're like, I think not Gloria.

Do you want to put this on your El Pollo Loco American Express? Wait, you have one of those, don't you? You don't have? I mean, I should. If I was getting points for that, it would be one of the most positive, effective ways I could use those. I'm really surprised, Vince, and I can call you Vince, right?

I know how frequently you come in here. And if you just sign up, right, you actually get 10,000 free Pollo Bucks just for signing up. And that translates to, well, the way you eat, probably about a month's worth of free food. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Oh, man.

I forgot this part of the the thing um lefty lucy righty tighty yeah not always true not always true sometimes the contractor just blows it in fact in my apartment they got they put the cold and the hot on the wrong side in my shower and i think they did it like just to screw with me and it's righty lucy yeah oh my well also oh it's not that it's like a world gone mad we need a we need a rhyme that is like clockwise versus counterclockwise because it's not it's not really obvious like it i always have to like think about it and be like well they mean the top is going in that direction. Because that's why we have clockwise versus counterclockwise, is because we haven't decided one means right and the other means left.

So come up with a better one. The top goes right and the bottom goes left. If it's threaded the right way, it's always going to turn that way, no? No, but I'm just saying the bottom part is going left though on a circular thing it's circle i mean it's circle miles right i i just don't think you can i don't think you can say a perfect circle that is turning in place is going to the right or left it's going clockwise or counterclockwise okay yeah so fuck off man how could it but if you fixed a point on the outside of a circle you would very much be able to tell if it's going you're just saying in relation because we don't have a vertical line

that actually differentiates between right and left right oh okay well i guess i never thought so deeply about it i just twist the fucking thing yeah but i like how it sort of fill us out like how could we know though is there like a calculus term for this that we're just too dumb to know probably almost definitely there yeah math math gang let us know uh how dumb we sound right now right i think i might be the only one who sounds dumb here i think everyone everyone's like, what are you talking about? Vince is gobsmacked at the moment. Yeah, I mean, I started this discussion.

I blame myself. Wait, but then I'm guessing for this thing to hold true, that if it's lefty-tighty, that would mean it's completely inverted. Like, even the way the shit's threaded, no? Yeah, it's just installed backwards or something. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not a contractor.

I don't know. Look, what are we, scientists? You know? No. No are we scientists you know no no we're not no we're not hey just got word in we're not confirmed from the booth and confirm okay we are not fucking scientists uh speaking of scientists let's talk about this laugh track research this hot new laugh track research, hot off the scientific presses. The scientific community is abuzzin' about it. I find this hard to believe, Miles. Why don't you tell the people what you're talking about? Well, okay.

Researchers in London have found that laugh tracks can help enhance the funniness of a joke when testing people, even the worst kind of fucking dad joke now how old were these people i think they were like a pretty broad spectrum of ages so it wasn't like a bunch of like you know actual dads or like these jokes are killing um but let me just give you an example they had like jokes that were from like tv or whatever and then they even have these other ones that were like this. Why couldn't the toilet paper cross the road? Why? Because it got stuck in a crack.

Why can't you give Elsa a balloon? Elsa from Frozen. Because she will let it go. Why was the tomato all red? Because it saw the salad dressing. What's round and sounds like a trumpet? That was funny. A crumpet.

What do you call an apple that farts? What's round and sounds like a trumpet? A crumpet. Why is that? Because a crumpet is round. And the word sounds like trumpet. I didn't even know a crumpet was round. Oh, yes.

You simply must go to London to have a crumpet. What do you call a fish with no eyes? Uh-huh. What? Hell, fuck yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. I would have found that way funnier if it was a laugh track. Well, so anyway, what they did is they...

So they had a... Wait, you missed the... You missed... You were going to skip the best one? Okay, what do you call an apple that farts? A fruity tootie. Wow. That's fucking lame.

That's the worst... That might be the worst joke I've ever heard. Yeah, because no apples fart. Yeah. I mean, why would I need to call it something? What do you call an apple that farts? Call the fucking FBI and the fucking NSA. I think this apple just farted, and it's fucking having a joke.

I think you'd call it psychosis. Yeah. So they had a comedian record these jokes, and they basically used two kinds of laughter, like with the punchlines, like legit staged canned laughter and then real spontaneous laughter that they recorded. And like they rated just one version of the joke. So like one person would only maybe hear the canned laughter version of the spontaneous

version. But they both thought things were funny uh like with any kind of laughter but the spontaneous one even like took it further slightly was the comedian james corden i imagine it was james corden that did the recording because he's everywhere you know now well they don't like it they don't like james corden and i'm gonna do some jokes for you. Yeah. A fruity tootie. Ho, ho, ho, ho. Well, well, itchy, well, itchy, well, itchy. What a, what a larf. But yeah, I mean, I think this makes, it's like anything.

Like you just, if you're in around a, what's the word I'm looking for? It's almost like peer pressure, right? Right. Because like you're in an audience, like, well, shit, that's okay. I'm taking that cue. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Yes. A fruity tootie, indeed.

I wonder how else you can apply this to other things. I was just going to say, I think this is very intuitive to me because if you ever try to practice a standup set before your set, it sounds like the least funny thing in the world because there's no one there to laugh at it and the timing's all messed up.

And then in front of an audience, you're like, oh, okay. Oh, oh thank god like yeah it gets it gets funnier because the energy is changed and it doesn't seem as uh sad i wonder are there ever any stand-ups who have like who bring plants in the audience to be like all right and then that'll serve as their canned laughter yeah like the north korean thing where they pipe in extra applause. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's got to have happened. If you're a really smart comedian, you would just be like,

fuck that, I'm using science. I'll hire seven people to sit throughout the audience, laugh their asses off, and people think I killed. Or you have just a button on your elbow that you could press it really discreetly. The way you were doing that was not discreet. Yeah, like an armpit fart. I don't discreet. Yeah, like an armpit fart. I don't know why I made it like an armpit fart. That's the punchline?

Huh? Okay, Vince Mancini, everyone. Give it up. There's that Chelsea Peretti special, One of the Greats, where she has plants in the audience. Oh, yeah. It's like part of the bit.

It's pretty good. But isn't there like a clown at one point? Yeah. I think it was the Brooklyn Nets actually had like piped in crowd sounds. Really? Yeah.

Like in that first couple seasons when people were like, do I like this? No, like recently. Like over the PA? Yeah. No, no, not over the PA. It wasn't like,

they did a good job of it. Of hiding it? Right. No, no, not over the PA. It wasn't like... Oh. It was... They did a good job of it. Of hiding it? Right. Wait, how do you... How would you do that? Just over the loudspeakers, right? Yeah. I imagine.

Yeah, probably over the loudspeakers. That's what I meant. Wait, what did I say? No, you did say... You said over the speakers, but I guess I was picturing like somebody over the AV system just hearing like... Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. But I think they did a good job of using the sound system to...

Make people pretend that others were actually enthusiastic about the team? Yeah. Well, look, they won't have trouble in about a year. It was the New Jersey Nets, and it was 1997, just the other day. Kendall Gill was still playing. Yeah. But, I mean, this also makes sense that I feel like it's surprising to me that candle laughter would improve people's ability to find.

Maybe if it's like a corny joke, you would be like, that adds something to it. Well, I find myself even when I go to comedy shows and just being in an audience, it helps you feel a little... Like at home by myself, I will look deadpan into a screen and be like, yeah, that was okay.

And you would never know that I enjoyed it. Like laughing is part of the social contract. Yeah, exactly. And I think that's really what it's working on is like sort of recreating that environment. It's like, yeah, we're here to laugh. Others are laughing. It's a good time.

I want them to test this where they replace the canned laughter with reggae horns. Like where does that make? I think that would make things at least 50% funnier. Yeah. Depends on, yeah. Or like really heavy shit. Like a really heavy speech with dance hall air horns. I think it would help lighten the mood.

Right. heavy speech with dance hall air horns i think would help lighten the mood right i think that in itself is actually even more powerful because you've taken something so dark right giving it a little bit of like a eulogy and then you just like yeah if the guy giving the eulogy is also just hitting the sound cues or like that one speech where saddam hussein had like the other people in government and like during and he was was reading off which ones were guilty of crimes and they were getting let out to be executed during the speech. And he was just like, and so-and-so, beep, beep, beep. Right. People were like, oh, God, am I next?

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And we're back. And we are... Now, what is it? Today? My mother's talking right now. As you hear this he's probably dropping depending on all kinds of fucking tea right depending on when you listen to it yeah depending when you listen to it but yeah i mean as of uh wednesday morning he's in front of the

house and uh house intelligence intel and judiciary committees about uh his report Yes. But prior to this on Monday, there was a leaked letter that Mueller got from the DOJ that shows you just how relaxed the Department of Justice is about all of this. Because they're big. I mean, let's just read some excerpts of this and you tell me how chill this is. First of all, any testimony must remain within the boundaries of your public report because matters within the scope of your investigation were covered by executive privilege, including information protected by law enforcement, deliberative process, attorney work product, and presidential communications privileges. Yeah, it's all very conversational. Yeah, very much. I think that just reads as like, just shut the fuck up, okay?

Right. And also the very top was sort of like, you know, like, you don't have to testify if you don't want to. And like, obviously, we wouldn't, you know, we wouldn't have prosecutors testify. Please don't testify. You know, you don't have to testify. Do you really want to? I mean, really? Do you want to?

Do you really want to go through all this? Like, it was very clear that they just want to, I mean, you know, put tape over his mouth, essentially. Right. They go on basically just saying like, please also don't elaborate on shit either. Quote, these privileges would include discussions about a discussion about investigative steps or decisions made during your investigation not otherwise described in the public version of your report. OK, so don't let don't like tell them like how you came to these conclusions in your mind about stuff. Clearly, he's not going to give up investigative processes and things like that. He used to run the FBI, and he's a career DOJ person.

Right. So, like, I don't think that – I think that doesn't really need to be something they need to worry about. Yeah. It's this next part that is very funny. It is the department's longstanding policy not to discuss the conduct of uncharged third parties. Established department policy also precludes any comment on the facts developed and legal conclusions by the special counsel's office with respect to uncharged individuals other than information contained within the portions of your report that have already been made public. Uh-huh. Uncharged. Who is that referring to?

Oh, let's see. Hmm. So, what...charged. Who is that referring to? Oh, let's see. Hmm. So what. Wait, who is that? What are they allowing him to, like, what is he allowed to say if he's not allowed to discuss the conduct of Trump? Oh, that's who he's talking about. Right. Yeah, probably the president.

Yeah, that's probably him. Uncharged third parties. They really wanted to lean into that. I mean, he doesn't have to do shit because he doesn't work for the DOJ anymore. Right. So this is all just like Jerry Nadler was like, okay, he doesn't have to listen to a fucking thing that you just said. But, you know, Mueller, even prior to this letter, had himself said, I'm only interested in speaking about what the report actually says. Which I think could have some kind of effect because no one's heard him say the real shit out loud.

Right. And Neil Cotty in the New York Times was basically saying they just need him to commit to three questions on wax. First, did your report find there was no collusion? Second, did your report find there was no obstruction? Third, did your report give the president complete and total exoneration? Yeah, that's about it. That should cover it.

This feels like there's a kid in the school who's just going around melving people and knocking people in the mud, but then the only way to punish him is the nerds in class have to read through the school handbook and find the specific clauses that he violated and read them all to the letter of the law. And it's like, no, no, we all saw it. We don't really need this. Well, I guess that's the thing is now for those who don't believe what they see

or don't read anything that has facts in it, hopefully you can get these little clips of him, of Robert Mueller, just like two seconds being like, my conclude reported that there was obstruction or this does not exonerate the president. Yeah. I don't know. I just feel like we're trying to catch him

on like the most procedural, like hard to prove stuff when he's like openly flaunting so many other parts of the constitution sure i mean like the idea like if you ask oh did he collude and it's like oh man we got to go through a thousand pages of documents and try to figure out how that all works as opposed to is he like openly profiting off of the presidency like every day and everybody's like oh yeah obviously well i think it's funny because for some reason even even though all that news is out, everyone's still like, right, right.

Okay, but what about Mueller? Right, yeah. For whatever reason, I think because that's like the sexier shit versus like him just being totally corrupt and being like, yeah, yeah, Trump Tower open for business to whatever. Yeah, this one involves like a 10-hour like true crime documentary where the other stuff is like, oh, yeah. Duh.

Like, yeah. Right. Right. Those are crimes. Those are crimes. What about like that? That shit that I was tuning in for for like 18 months. Right.

Yeah. I want to know about that. How does that how does that show end? Yeah. Now that we are kind of recording something that's going to be released after we can be definitively proven wrong. Do you feel like there's going to be any sort of payoff here? I feel like no. I feel like it's going to be a disappointment, like aggressively so.

Yeah. I've just kind of kept ourselves from getting too excited about anything going on with Mueller and the effect that'll have. So the most I can be excited for is that maybe there's a good clip that can go around on facebook for elderly people to see muller destroys trump savage fucking moments from the muller testimony sav muller moans i mean the when it came out wasn't the whole thing he said like it doesn't matter what i say like the whole it's Congress's job to provide the oversight. And, like, it's Congress's job to, you know, provide oversight with – like, provide checks and balances.

And if they don't have the will to do that, then, like, nothing happens. Right. The thing I'm worried about is, like, a lot of Congress people are like, should he be impeached or whatever? And even in his report, he doesn't really use that word. He's like, external processes outside of the traditional criminal justice system it's like his euphemism for it so i'm sure it's going to be a lot of democrats like beg being so thirsty for him to say like the shit they need him to um and maybe it'll go well maybe it won't but at the very end i think it's just hopefully you can get some kind of soundbite with him, his face, his mouth moving that isn't, oh, Trump, no obstruction, no collusion, V-chill, V-chill.

Right. All about your day. Yeah. That's it. And then even then it'll be like whatever because we're still apprehending people and being like, show us your papers or you'll go to prison forever. So there's a lot to catch up with. There's a lot to catch up with there's a lot to keep up with i feel like it'll be too frustrating to watch in real time because it'll be a lot of them trying pushing for him to say something and him being very like pedantic about right and like and who would an

uncharged third party be right um and he'll just use someone who is not charged. Right. And in this context, that would be somebody in the government. Look, I'm not going to say it. Right. Fuck. Okay. Sorry. Look, I'm not going to say it. That's his voice a little bit higher.

No, it wasn't. Wasn't his voice super old? Yeah, it was very old and like this. At least we'll dial in our Mueller impersonation. Yes. Let's talk about joseph biden speaking of the elderly uh yeah it seems like he has responded to just getting uh mopped getting the floor mopped with him in the first debate by uh kind of adjusting some of his policy

positions yep so that he's not as open to criticism about being extremely conservative. Yeah, because this next debate sees him on stage with a lot of people of color that are running for like are also going for the nomination. And based on how that went down, just with Kamala coming at him with the busing stuff and other positions he's taken, everyone's like, I have a feeling they're going to talk a lot about the crime bill now. That Biden was like, oh, the Biden bill, I think, which even called it back in 94. So to keep himself protected, he's got a new plan, which, you know, I guess a somewhat decent criminal justice reform plan, which includes end to mandatory minimum sentences. OK. The use of minimum sentences. Okay.

The use of private prisons. Okay. End all incarceration for drug use alone. So they would send people to drug court and try rehabilitation before incarceration. End cash bail. Moratorium on placing juveniles in adult prisons. Yeah. Oh, a moratorium.

Yeah. We'll have to study this further. Right. But I think what they're really trying to do is like, yeah, maybe – and we'll do studies to see if like incarceration is the best thing. Because before I was just like, yeah, lock them all up. They're all super predators. I think Joe Biden would be in favor of lots of studies. I don't think he has actually any principles or beliefs.

I think all of his policy positions are just like someone tuning a radio dial just to find that like perfect sweet spot of like public opinion that can keep him you know in a job but yeah i don't really think there's any driving principles behind what he's doing no i think the driving principles are avoiding a smoke show on stage where they press him for everything basically what he'll do now he's like oh uh yeah i know i i know that was, but now look at what I just did. So obviously that negates everything I used to believe. So find a new angle, Carmala. I feel like every – yeah, basically – so let's just talk about who's on what night. So the first night, July 30th, has Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Pete Buttigieg.

Those are kind of the main ones in that top tier. Well, hold on. Don't just erase Marianne Williamson. Marianne Williamson, right. Comic Relief will be there. Beto will be there on that night. And then night two, July 31st, you've got Bideniden kamala harris cory booker julian castro uh which you know kamala and castro were like the two that kind of came after people a little bit de blasio also but he was

kind of less effective uh de blasio i think has even had a take on the biden thing yeah it was like yeah i don't know i don't think those know. I don't think those laws are good at all. Well, for me, can I get a percentage? Yeah, well, we'll see. I mean, I think this is all very much what Joe Biden does or career politicians do. They know when a position they've taken is causing a little too much static, adjust a little bit, and do it in time so then you can just be like,

point to that quote-unquote plan you have as a deflector shield. I mean, that's his entire career. Like the crime bill was just him like tuning in like public opinion at that time. Right. He's got, seems like people want tougher on crimes. That's what I'm going to be. Yeah. And then he was like, well, you know, actually back then, like people were saying it wasn't

tough enough. So was I that tough? Because those people were like right wing people from Alabama. Well, yeah. And I think also when you look at how much Joe Biden really needs the black vote, I think getting fucking worked in that last debate has shown him like, OK, my shitty positions in the past are going to kind of run antithetical to the interests of black voters that I need. So let me do this to show a little bit of change of heart.

And not to mention that this plan announcement, I mean, it coincides perfectly with his, hey, black voters, it's me, Obama's grandpa tour that he's going on. Right. Because he's going to fucking two events this week on racial justice. One is with the NAACP in Detroit. Super sincere, I'm sure. Yeah, and then the Conference of the National Urban League in Indianapolis on Thursday.

So if de Blasio gets a spot in the debate, why doesn't Howard Schultz get on the debate? They're both equally 0% popularity level, right? Yeah, I think Schultz has suspended his campaign. Once he saw that Biden was running, he's like, all right, cool. Wasn't he independent also? Or he was running as an independent? Or was he running as a Democrat?

No, he's going to run as a Democrat, I think. I think he was waiting to see if Biden was going to jump in. Got it. Okay. He's like, oh, Biden's in? All right. Damn. I was going to be that guy with lukewarm takes on everything.

All right. Damn. I was going to be that guy with lukewarm takes on everything. So the MAGA bomber, we know a little bit more about where he was coming from. Yeah. Beyond what was glued to the outside of his van. Well, it was mostly I think we could have told just based on what was on the outside of his van. He loved American youth soccer and Trump and hated Obama. Yeah. And lifting. Yeah, loved lifting. Yeah.

I feel like every hardcore Trump guy is super into physical fitness for some reason. They're all like aspiring supplement salesmen. Sure. I don't know how that came to be. Well, because he's the embodiment of physical fitness. Yeah, exactly. The picture of health. Well, so we're getting more details, right?

I think the biggest thing is his attorneys submitted a 39-page sentencing memorandum because they're trying to get his prison sentence knocked down to around 10 years because he was about to go on this bombing spree. And they're sort of saying, like, look, this guy was struggling with mental illness. Also, Trump and, like, Fox News fucked his brain up. As part of their defense, look, this guy sucks at building bombs, you guys. He's really not very good at it. Don't worry about it.

Look, he was going through a lot. So some of the things they point to was that he was a steroid-addled pariah relying on self-help audiobooks and strip mall fortune tellers to a political radical. Strip mall fortune tellers. Yeah, who has his mission to protect Trump and the country by attacking prominent liberals. titled Mr. Sayoc's Political Radicalization. They showed how, as he was suffering from mental illness, working as a part-time pizza delivery man and part-time strip club DJ, found, this is not even joking,

found solace in self-help books on tape, specifically ones that were from Mr. Trump, sort of showed him everything he wanted to be, like a self-made successful, quote, playboy. It's just sad that he couldn't even afford the boutique malls, the fortune tellers. You know, he had to go to a strip mall to get his fortune told. Is there a boutique fortune teller? I feel like you have to be in a strip mall or like an old house.

Just like somehow like when a certain commercial area was a residential neighborhood. Yeah. But that one house remains and it has a neon psychic sign. Or is that just LA? No, I think that exists elsewhere. Psychics, I feel like psychics only work out of their house. Yeah. It's got to be like an old Victorian mansion.

Right. That's the only thing on the block. With a neon sign. Gotten gentrified. Right. Thank you. Thank you, psychics, for not making this neighborhood totally fucked up. So then what they said was basically with that sort of swirling around him,

then he lost his home in 2008. He started spiraling even more and he had very little political knowledge and wasn't able to make sense of real news and conspiracy theories. And that's when he got involved with the Trump campaign as a volunteer, handing out flyers, covering his van in stickers, and joined, quote, hundreds of right-wing Facebook groups, which promoted, quote, the idea that Trump's critics were dangerous, unpatriotic, and evil, as well as, quote, provocative language to depict Democrats as murderous, terroristic, and violent.

Fox News furthered these arguments, the memo adds. So, you know, they're really, this is a thing I feel like we're going to start seeing more as more people are, I guess, become intoxicated with the violent rhetoric that comes out of Trump and Fox News. But it's interesting to like really just point that like, they're like, look, quote, the combination of his cognitive deficiencies, steroid-induced delusional thinking, political naivete, and his isolation resulted in Mr. Sayak being unable to critically evaluate these claims. Yeah. I mean, I think it's like Trump is like a grifter charlatan. And so for people that like him, it doesn't really matter that he's like an aspirational grifter charlatan. It's not like, oh, what he says is not true. It's more just like, oh, I could be that guy that goes on tv and is you know that you

you can be that sort of demo he's like uh he's like an every man's demagogue he's like what influencers are to like gen z kids like what's that done to gen z's perception of what work is where it's like i want to be an influencer like that would be so tight if i was an influencer and if you're like a boomer white man, like dealing with your waning power and privilege, you then look at Trump and like, that's my, I want to be a Trump type dude. It just gets to be fucking toxic and people cheer and that's life. His version of what's rad is totally defined by the 80s. Right.

Yeah. God, that video of him partying with uh epstein where he's like dancing and like doing the like lower lip bite thing is just the most amazing uh i mean is it does epstein is he like trump where he doesn't drink like that's the crazy thing to think about is seeing trump at all these like you know wild parties and then thinking about the fact that he's a teetotaler also. Right. Right. Yeah.

Could you, yeah. Like amongst all that fucking depraved, he's just like, I don't touch stuff. Right. Yeah. Wait, you're sober? Yeah. Oh my God. Just crush up pep pills and I snort them in the bathroom.

Right. Everybody else there is like, I couldn't be here without like a kilo of cocaine, but that guy's just over in the bathroom. Everybody else there is like, I couldn't be here without a kilo of cocaine, but that guy's just over in the corner. The thing, yeah, just with this going on, they say, attorneys really underline saying that he heard it from the president of the United States, a man with whom he felt and had a deep personal connection. He read it on almost every website he visited. He saw it on Fox News, which he watched at the start and end of his day. And it was reinforced to him on social media. Like this environment, this isn't going to be a one-off, especially when you have more shit coming out all the time of people being like Ilhan Omar's Al-Qaeda and all this other fucking nonsense.

It's, I don't know, man. Yeah, I mean, mentally ill people are, you know, affected by what our culture is giving them, you know, especially sensitive to it. I mean, there was, like, around the time that the Truman Show came out, a lot of a new mental illness started happening where people would, like, be committed thinking that they were on a show like The Truman Show. And so it's like the same reality TV and that sort of thing all manifested itself in a similar sort of alternate reality. You're going to see those things refracted back to you in kind of fucked up ways. And this makes sense. to you in kind of fucked up ways. And this makes sense. Like he is a perfect embodiment of just all the toxic shit that is swirling around on Facebook, on Fox News.

Right. And you find someone who has sort of that mix of like has an ax to grind, is susceptible to this kind of messaging and is struggling with mental illness. And yeah, you get a van covered in stickers sending bombs. Yeah. It's funny the truman show thing as a kid before even before the truman show i had the idea for the truman show because i actually believed i was the star of my own movie right when i was like six or something yeah which

is a childish thing to think because you're like oh yeah and i'm the main character of my experience because i don't know how to make sense of anything that's happening to me right um and then i think it was around like 13 when i didn't get armpit hair yet. I was like, this show's fucked up. No way. They wouldn't make a show about me. Miles never wants to take free throws wearing a tank top. Yeah, I think that's what we have instead of like religion in some ways

is like the past like decades or past centuries had like the idea that god was like always watching them and like as kids we had the idea that like there was like some invisible reality show constantly watching us yeah it was weird i didn't even think of my shit as a reality show right because my delusions predated reality tv yeah it was really you're gonna be the first a narrative weird miles show. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, I'll win all my hockey games because I'm the main character. Did it have a laugh track, though? No.

It was a very serious drama. Okay. Yeah. Please, please respect my story, Vince. There's no sitcom. And also, we just wanted to talk about Wilbur Ross real quick. Oh, my gosh. Also, we just wanted to talk about Wilbur Ross real quick.

Oh, my gosh. So he self-reports that he's working 12-hour days. He's fucking 81. Have you seen him? 81 working 12-hour days. But if you ask the actual employees at the Commerce Department, they say that he's seen as kind of irrelevant. The morale is very low in the commerce department uh and there's not a lot of confidence in him uh he's not respected in the building and one source told a reporter that not only has wilbur ross fallen asleep at every meeting he's been in, but that he drools and uses his tie to clean it up.

Yep. Mm-hmm. So. And it's become very apparent that Wilbur Ross cannot stay awake. Like, there are plenty of photos or, like, clips of him, like, you know, like, when you watch people tightrope walk that sleep line? Mm-hmm. And, like, and you're like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's so many clips of him doing that. And if you're not familiar about Wilbur Ross, he's that old, like, literally the most goblin-y dude in the cabinet. Yeah. I use the term goblin a lot. Rudy Giuliani's a gin goblin. There's Legal Smeagol, Jeff Sessions. But Wilbur Ross is-

The most goblin-y. He is a- Peak goblin. Yes. He is an old, dried-up baby. He is a peak goblin. Yes. He is an old, dried up baby.

And the thing that they were saying, apparently the Commerce Department, because he sleeps so much, they've had to alter the whole fucking schedule of meetings. Quote, because he tends to fall asleep in meetings, they try not to put him in a position where that could happen. So they're very careful and conscious about how they schedule certain meetings. There's a small window where he's able to focus and pay attention and not fall asleep. I mean, it's like the perfect poetic justice for one of these guys that brags about how many hours a day they work. Oh, I work 14 hours a day. Why don't you just take a nap, stupid? You're not getting anything done.

Yeah, you're sleeping for 10 of them. Right. You work a two-hour day. And yeah, I mean, I think with the anecdote about the sleeping thing there was like around that time people were already saying trump wasn't a big fan of him because like he liked his business acumen or his ability to be a predatory investor right like when it came to like how he was outwardly he's like i don't he's he's kind of weird well yeah i mean trump is a complete narcissist who is totally informed like his opinions of other people are informed by the media and by, you know, he's not going to respect somebody who, like, Fox News or even, like, the mainstream media doesn't respect.

Yeah. He's just, he's totally influenced by that. Also, they have, like, a different persona. You know, Trump is, like, snorting Adderall. Right. And this guy's falling asleep. Of course they can't hang out. He's like, oh, like a different persona. You know, Trump is like snorting Adderall and this guy's falling asleep. Of course, they can't hang out. He's like, oh, I don't know.

Wake me up. Sir, you're on a TV interview. Oh, okay. Buy less soda cans. You're a pop. You're drinking too much pop. The thing, though, that everyone's saying now is he might be next on the chopping block. Yeah.

Because after that census citizenship question, fuck up fiasco. Right. They're like, the murmurs, the grumblings and mumblings around 1600. Or that maybe he'll get the ax. He'll be the next to go. Yeah. It's been nice playing with you, Wilbur. Yeah.

How long has he been there? Has he been there from the start? For a while. Who knows? It's a revolving door Wilbur. Yeah. How long has he been there? Has he been there from the start? For a while. Who knows? It's a revolving door, man. Yeah. I don't like the trend of the original people who Trump put into office because he didn't have a transition team and was just flying by the seat of his pants being replaced now by like more efficient people like with william barr replacing sessions right and like then he becomes more dangerous so

yeah i'm the ineptness is the only thing that's saving us at this point yeah exactly so i'm happy with wilbur ross uh napping his way through uh the next six years What was the guy who had the patent for the toilet for guys with big penises? Oh, Dick Toilet? Yeah. What was that guy? I feel like every Trump reply guy is just a hair away from having an official government position. Matt Whitaker. Yeah.

His whole thing was he wrote an op-ed about how you can't charge the sitting president with crimes or something, and then he got a job immediately. Just like William Barr did, too. So that's how you become AG. Write a thing about how Jeff Sessions totally fucked that up, and you can't be charged. How close are we to having Jacob Wall in a cabinet position of some kind? I'm very close, probably. Yeah. At least joining the vape room that is the-

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and gets to shoot people legally. And he was immediately fired. So that's good. Yeah, the cop who posted it and the cop who liked it. Yes. Seems like a good thing. Yeah. Yeah. Again, yeah. And it's and the cop who liked it. Yes. Seems like a good thing. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, again, yeah. And it's just the mentality where it's like, what? She deserves to be shot? For what? Right. It's just a cool thing to say to impress your right-wing buddies. Yeah. Right.

Because it's funny because everyone's talking about it. They're just trying to make this place a socialist third-world country. Like, what? What does that even mean? But I'm always here like, what do you mean by that? And don't just use Venezuela as your fucking weird straw man that you point to. Right. But anyway.

Well, more and more, we're going to be seeing a trend in our movies where they're kind of catering to China. I mean, this is something that's been pointed out in blockbusters recently. I think Transformers 4 was like a big example of it but somebody noticed in the top gun maverick uh top gun 2 trailer that his bomber jacket was identical to the one from the uh 80s movie except two of the flags had been changed to remove the Japanese and Taiwanese flags. What? Yeah. And the movie is produced in a partnership

between China's Tencent Pictures and Paramount Pictures. Well, I mean, like what? Five, six years back, there was the Red Dawn remake. And in the script, it was that China invades the US, and then in post-production, they had to change it to North Korea because they didn't want to offend China. In post? Yes. So what did they have to do, like change the uniforms and shit? Yeah, pretty much.

Yeah. Oh, my God. It's just funny, man, how much fucking money is just the answer to all this shit. It's not even like, yeah, we agree with their take. It's like, oh, fuck, man. We need this money, so I guess we'll just don't offend these people and just allow them to have their revisionist version of history. I mean, I get the beef with Japan.

But, I mean, Avengers Endgame and the latest Spider-Man movie are breaking all sorts of box office records because of China. Like China is just, the market is growing and growing. And, you know, as America's market stays the same or shrinks a little bit because of all the other entertainment options that Americans have. I do enjoy that they don't get Star Wars at all. Right. Isn't that interesting? Like they've had this whole campaign to try and like, you know, educate the Chinese audience on Star Wars, but they're just like,

ah, yeah, we don't get it. We think this sucks. Not for us. Why don't they just shoot guns? Why do they have- With that glow stick that guy's waving around. Right. Forget it. just shoot guns why do they have um that glow stick that guy's waving around right forget it you have a shot of a guy shooting a gatling gun at his fucking planet then i don't care yeah and i think lion king same deal is uh doing really well over there um maybe they just really like

photorealistic lions yeah i mean as they should so i was i feel like i'm the only one who says this but like i thought it was really weird. They have these photorealistic lions, but then they took the lion's balls and penises out. Not like, you know, but when a lion sits down and you're looking at it from the front, you expect its dick to be there. Yeah, you do. And it's just not. And it seems really weird.

For 17 bucks a ticket man well everything else everything else is like perfectly realistic except they're don't they're like ken doll lions this is my whole question with jurassic park is you know the dino dick the penis and balls are the those don't make it into uh fossils right because it's just you know soft tissue. Not unless it's a bone. Dinosaurs are growers. Did they make all the dinosaurs in the park women to avoid having to show you?

Because the position of dinosaurs are such that it would be... Imagine a T-Rex with just a big very human dick. Oh, I have some drawings. I don't need to imagine it.

A big, circumcised human dick. Oh, God. It knocked the fucking Jeep over. Right. Yeah. I don't know. Sure. But so you're saying that they specifically removed it.

They specifically disincluded it right yeah even for the sex scene yeah exactly wow i'm sure i how has like some subversive digital artists not added all the genitals back onto like those lion king frames yeah this is how that scene should have looked yeah big floppy lion dick and you know there had to be a discussion and i just like i want to know what that discussion was like. You think, or it's Disney, where you already know. Do you think someone was in a production meeting like, yeah, John, for the animations of the animals, are we just taking the dicks out? Because I actually brought a couple examples of how Simba's dick could look.

I mean, if you're animating a lion, and I assume that they're studying lots of lion footage to get it just right, it's definitely a creative choice to be like, well, I'm not going to draw the dick there. Yeah. Well, I guess I think it seems like Disney policy where no one has any kind of genitals, only boobs. Right. Yes.

It's important that the animators who are drawing the characters be made horny by the female ones. That's important. It's like, look, buddy, if I don't want to fuck the lion, this whole thing ain't going to work. To the point that they accidentally draw dicks all over the place because they're just sexually sublimating all the...

I'll say sex. What do you mean it says sex? Are you talking about the Little Mermaid cover? Yeah, Little Mermaid cover, the boner. Has that ever been fully snoped? It's there, man. I know, but if they're being like, that's a coincidence,

or it's like, it's deaf cock. Right. I mean, it's definitely a dick. To me, yeah. But I'm saying, what's the intent of the artist? So I had to write a script about this and I uh my whole movie about no just a short my supposition going in was that it was drawn by an artist who just had a really weird looking dick and so they didn't they like had no idea that it looked like a dick. Dave, dicks don't look like that.

What are you guys talking about? Wait, draw yours real quick. Oh, no. Oh, no. I'm going to call my mom. Speaking of people with really weird dicks, Leonardo DiCaprio. No, I have no idea if he has a weird dick. Probably not.

He's just been sued, Jack. Probably has a gorgeous dick. Leonardo DiCaprio. Hey. Sorry. No. I mean. Thank you.

I think that's my favorite joke that anybody's made on our podcast to this point. Anyway, Nard's dick,rio nard dick uh has is still forced to answer questions about uh why jack had to die at the end of titanic like so he's going around doing press for his upcoming you know artsy uh quentin tarantino movie and people are like so why didn't you just get on the door with rose like you could have fit it was obvious oh like pivoting like being like and great what was it like to work with quentin tarantino and right okay and look i gotta ask like everyone's still harping on that to the point that like he's really like pissed about it. Like Brad Pitt was with him on during this interview and was like, yeah,

could you have squeezed in there? You could have, right. And Leonardo DiCaprio was like, no comment. And he was like, did you mention it at the time that like, or Margot Robbie was like,

yeah, did you mention that at the time to James Cameron? He was like, like I said, I have no comment. Oh God. Uh, why couldn't the boat just avoid the iceberg right exactly could have been a chill film I think that's a I think that's a stupid point to be honest the the whole like he should have just gotten on the door because like it might not have

floated like well that's why there's been this is such a hotly contested topic, like from people who made fucking diagrams of how they both could have fit their bodies on the door. And people were like, assuming their weight is this, and this is the buoyancy of this wood. Right, but how do you assume that? So Mythbusters did an episode about the door where they were like, the way he could have done it is to reinforce its buoyancy with a life vest. But that requires him to swim like while it's like 20 degree water, swim under the door and like put a life vest on there. And this is a point James Cameron had to make. He was like in response to that. He's like, you're talking about the Mythbusters thing, right?

Oh, you're talking Mythbusters. Well, let me bust this for you. Yeah. So I agree with james cameron and on this and only this uh to quote titanic uh i mean look i think it's just one of those things where people were so pissed that he didn't have to die or something but like look that's why it's a fucking drama okay right it's fucking suspended for a second just be like yeah, yeah, maybe he fucking had, he just died, okay? That's it. And James Cameron's like, you guys know I pilot submarines, right?

Right. You're going to ask me about this? He's like, yeah, I fucking thought about it, man. He's like, oh, you want to talk water stuff? Let's talk water stuff. I created a new fucking sea tech. Fuck you. But, you know, I think more people Are pissed about the Necklace being thrown away

I'm just mad about Rose committing adultery Right Wow No one talks about that Yep You don't go to movies To not see Lion Dick

And you don't go to see Acts of adultery Yeah I don't want to go And watch a nice Boat movie And then be tempted By infidelity

Right Right By the fruit of another. You know? I mean, that was, for me, I didn't care as much about Jack Downs. Like, great, whatever. Like, sure, that's what happens in movies or whatever. It didn't make sense.

No, it made perfect sense. You know that guy would be a shitty husband. Right. He's like, oh, I'm such a lovable rogue drawing pictures of people. Yeah. What job are you going to do in America? Jack definitely fucked at least three other women on the Titanic. On that boat.

Yeah. During that dance sequence in Steerage with all the Irish dancing, what you don't know is she blinked her eyes and he was 69ing with the lady. You think yours is the only handprint on this car window? Yeah. When you fog it up, it's a ton. It just pans over in all the other cars since you're just have handprints all over. So much heat was coming off their genitals.

They just fogged the whole thing up. I mean, that guy was, he was getting it in. There's, there's no way he wasn't. I also feel like if they got off, like a, she still would have been with Cal, right? Billy Zane. Yeah. Like technically. Cause didn't she say like she was still with him until him until he, like, took his own life or something?

Until she tried to shoot her? Yeah. But she, at the end, she just pretends that she died and starts a completely new personality. Oh, that's right. And then she just heard tell of Cal's, like, fate where he, like, shot himself after the market crashed in 29 or something. Yes, I believe that's correct. I mean, I would have liked if she gave Cal some weird steerage STD from Jack. Next thing you know, he's got lice and all the crabs and stuff

that he'd get from hanging out down there with all those people playing the fiddle. Yeah. I feel like, but then if Jack and Rose are together living a secret life, are they mad stressed because he's like, yo, dude, I'm kind of paranoid because you faked your own death. You got that wild ass necklace that's worth a lot of money. I'm wanted in France.

I was drawing all those French girls, which is a euphemism. Yeah. And also like, can I tell you more stories about me and Fabrizio? He was a chill dude. There's no way that that necklace would have gone unsold, unpawned, if Jack had made it. He would have pawned that shit quick. Oh, right.

He gets like a bad like heroin addiction. Oh, he would have had gambling debts for sure. Yeah. Oh, man. See, that's the universe you need to explore. What happens if they get off the boat? She still has a necklace. Is Jack Dawson a good dude? Right. It's also kind of fucked up for her husband because she has grandkids and stuff, and then she dies and goes to heaven at the end of the movie, and Jack is there. She goes to heaven in the movie yeah okay does i mean she dies and like arrives and it's the uh ballroom full of titanic passengers oh shit that does

happen yeah that does happen at the end oh wow i forgot about that i've not seen that shit in a minute so but that means that like her kids, grandkids are all like, yo, where is she? She's supposed to be here, and she's just off partying with Jack. I'm on the Titanic, homie. Y'all don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As if Jack hadn't been getting it in in heaven that whole time.

Oh, man. Oh, she walks in on him in steerage with all the other ones. He's in heaven, and he's still in steerage. She's like, I should have sold that necklace and started a nonprofit. And when she walks in on him in steerage, he's just sitting back in the car with noise-canceling headphones on, vaping. Which is how Leonardo DiCaprio actually has sex, allegedly. That should be how Jack fucks, then.

Yes. In the heaven sequence, he's got AirPods in, vaping hardcore, and he's like, just do your thing, girl. Not AirPods, bro. Noise-canceling headphones. So that he can just totally zone out. That's right. Listening to MGMT's electric feel.

Yes. My friend was driving people to, or no, he went to Coachella, and he was watching a concert, driving people to, or no, he went to Coachella and he was like watching a concert and he looked over and he sees this like,

he was sort of like this very attractive woman sort of caught his eye and then he looked over and he's like, why is she making out with that really gross, like fat,

just disheveled looking dude and he's looking and he realizes it's Leonardo DiCaprio and like at a certain point, apparently like Leonardo DiCaprio like left and the girl was like still like dancing, like waiting for him to come back and he's like yeah i was that i was there for like two hours and she was still in the same spot right like

waiting for leo to come back and she probably was dancing by herself there all day he went little did she know he went to steerage yeah which in Coachella is the do lab. Yeah. I don't even know what that is. It's a Coachella joke for the homies. I pretended like I got it, but I didn't. Yeah. The real plot hole, like you said, our writer, Jan, was pointing out that she really did not have to throw that.

How much did they say it was worth, the diamond? Wasn't it like the rarest diamond on earth, basically, to that point? Hundreds of millions of dollars and she threw it out for romantic reasons as opposed to just selling it and feeding a village for the rest of time. Her kids are

like, I had to take out student loans. What the hell? There is, if you actually search, how much was the heart of the ocean worth? It says the famous jeweler Harry Winston, known for having owned the Hope Diamond and many other diamonds, made his own take on the heart of the ocean diamond using a real blue diamond, 15 carat. This piece is worth 10 times as much as the previous example valued at $20 million. So, shit.

$200 million. I guess. $20 times as much as the previous which was 10 million as the previous example yeah what is that is that meaning the real hard

look shit was worth a lot rose you could have done something with it it's gonna be hard to find a fence it's like yeah

we need someone who has 200 million dollars to blow on a rock that's a good point very good point huh well I don't know

if I have a buyer for that let me look well Vince it's been a pleasure having you as always Very good point. Very good point. Huh. Well, I don't know if I have a buyer for that. Let me look. Well, Vince, it's been a pleasure having you, as always. Where can people find you? They can find me on Uproxx or on either of my podcasts, the Film Drunk Fratcast, which is our comedy podcast,

and Pod Yourself a Gun, which is our Sopranos rewatching podcast that we have a very special guest coming on from when we record tomorrow. Yeah. Oh, shit. That's me. Yeah. I'm fucking ready, dude. I love The Sopranos. And I haven't watched season one in a minute,

so it's going to be like getting back together with some old friends. It's better when you have some time in between. Yeah, because there was a while when I only watched the – I would religiously just watch Sopranos on loop, and it lost all meaning, and I'm ready to go back home. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying, Vince? Oh, crap. Oh, this is from Hillary of Hope.

Hillary with one R, one L, underscore, and underscore. I don't like it when restaurant servers ask, so what are you guys doing tonight? Because it makes me feel lame. This is what we're doing, Kevin. Eating at Chili's is the event. Miles, where can people find you? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray.

Tweet I like from Rachel Winitsky. The hits keep coming out of Rachel's account at Rachel Winitsky, W-E-N-I-T-S-K-Y. She said, I'm 30, which means that everyone I think is my age is actually 22, and everyone I think is at least 10 years older is actually 29. That's true. God damn. That's fucking, you hit it in the bullseye. Tweet I enjoyed, Charlene de guzman uh quote oh fuck me after the first bar

of yeah yeah yeah's maps for the past 15 years uh swarm bowie tweeted tequila is a fun song but celebrates the sin of substance abuse that's why i like to shout taquito at the titular moment it's a cool way to still be part of the party while not compromising your morals. And finally, Raptors at Raptors underscore tweeted, Dude, Rorschach is my favorite superhero. I just wish his mask didn't have a picture of my parents fighting on it. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

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