The Daily Zeitgeist - What is Jesusween? Spies Are Idiots (Just Like Us)

Episode Date: October 19, 2021

In episode 1011, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, writer and host of Quick Question podcast Daniel O'Brien to discuss Dumb “spies”, The Dependency Ratio, What the Fuck is JesusWeen? Social Media Continues to be Full of “Time Travellers” and more!FOOTNOTES: Dumb “spies” are sad and pathetic The Dependency Ratio Continues to Be One Of The Most Underrated Forces In The Modern World  What the Fuck is JesusWeen? Social Media Continues to be Full of “Time Travellers” LISTEN: Soul Supreme - Umi Says Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They try to save everybody. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 207, episode two of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it's Tuesday, October 19th, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka, so hi, hi, it's Jack O'Brien, some guy. Bent some metal with my kegels, but my prostate was dry. And them good old boys were soaking choogs left and right.

Singing morning, it's the Daily Zeitgeist. Morning, it's the Daily Zeitgeist. That is courtesy of Lex Lugy. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Do you be weed at the start of our love? I watch you disappear and smoke and really think you're ninja in a foe oh shout out to hannah on the discord for that just believe megan fox machine gun kelly inspired aka shout out mfc erickson also we asked and mfc erickson provided the photoshop job that we all deserved jack and i on the red carpet and i saw some other

people getting on the photoshopery so shout out to the listeners who got the assignment now i definitely pay attention to the show uh while we're recording it but could you refresh my memory what that what the request was there so okay you know so you saw you saw the picture yeah yeah i saw the picture okay my wife sent it to me my wife said good luck she's like what's going on with you miles but no we were talking about the megan fox thing and we're just talking about how cliched their photos were like her aiming the gun at his crotch and stuff and we're like this is so aggro and i'm just like yo somebody photoshop us as a terrible Megan Fox MGK couple. And then I was turned into Steve Harvey.

Right. So you were Steve Harvey. Was I? You were MGK. Okay. Yeah. That was my confusion. With the tech Nina at my nether region.

Yeah. Well, Miles. Yeah. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the funniest and smartest writers and people I've ever worked with. He is the author of the book, How to Fight Presidents, is currently a writer for Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, is in development on a fishing show with Eli Manning, and co-hosts the podcast Quick Question with Soren and Daniel. Please welcome the hilarious, the talented, the brilliant Daniel O'Brien. Thank you.

Thank you so much. There's nothing I could do but underwhelm after such a gracious setup. No relation, by the way. Yes. Good to see you. Tell me about this fishing show. I've noticed a lot of Eli Manning content from you. You seem real thirsty for a project with Eli. What's your relation to Eli Manning?

I am. I'm a huge New York football Giants fan. I think there's something inherently very funny about Eli. He's just like an earnest, big goofball who shouldn't have two Super Bowl wins, but he does, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. And I just love this charming, doofus oaf. And I've been following him on Twitter. And I don't like to be very loud about what I want professionally on Twitter and ask for opportunities because it seems gauch to me. But I suspend that rule just for Eli Manning because I want to do something with him. And surely he's not even aware of my existence. And if he was ever tipped off to it, he would think I'm making fun of him in some way when I send him pitches that I'm like, Eli, I want to do a show with you and a bunch of puppets

where they try to teach you Spanish. I'm sure his people think he's making fun of you. Eli, I'm not. I want to do a puppet show with you or I want to do a show about hot wings. I know you got this deal with Frank's Red Hot Sauce and I know you like fishing and I love fishing. Let's do a fishing show with or without puppets. I don't care. I think if I could just sit in a room with Eli Manning, we can whip up something for Peacock or FX on Hulu, or I guess I probably should suggest HBO Max. Something.

We can do something together, Eli. Please. I mean, if you think deeply, right? I think the way to get the Red Hot thing is, sadly, you would have to quit your Emmy Award winning job and work for an ad agency that has the Frank's Red Hot thing is, sadly, you would have to quit your Emmy award winning job and work for an ad agency that has the Frank's Red Hot account. And then you pitch the like the special content. And then, you know, through his deal, they're gonna be like, that's great. We're gonna go to

Eli with it. I feel like that's the quickest route there. But I don't think you should quit your job. So maybe we'll just bombard him on Twitter till he responds. Yeah, it was difficult enough to convince my parents what I was doing mattered when I was working for a comedy website. If I now have to quit my television job, I was like, I work for the hot sauce company now. It's a long con. It's going to pay off.

Right. This is going to work out for us. But you just have to trust me and tell the neighbors that I'm on hiatus from work while I work for the hot sauce company. I believe that you can make this happen no matter what. I just think it's in the cards for you. Thank you. It really means a lot to me. And I only say that because I have to believe that in order for me and Prince Harry to hang out like I desperately want to have in my life. So if that can happen, then yours definitely is happening so onward with the eli show hell yeah yes absolutely

all right i would pay very good money to watch eli manning learn spanish uh puppets or not because you know the subreddit eli five explain like i'm five eli five oh shit eli explain like i'm eli yo you fuck with that? Okay. Yeah. Wow. That's for you, Dan. That's for you. Thank you. Wow. Now, is that Eli explaining the most complex things out there?

No, that's more. Eli's the five-year-old, bro. So every week we watch Eli learn about all kinds of like quantum physics and things. Yes. It's Eli asking sincere questions of five-year-olds. And they help him. They teach him. And they help them they teach them right savant type five-year-olds like genius five-year-olds and eli getting very frustrated with eli man yeah how do i do lowercase b's versus lowercase d's and they're like use your hand make it look like a bed and it's left to right that's what a b looks like that's what a d

looks like eli but yeah but i'm here to talk to you about the Large Hadron Collider. Oh, what's that? Yeah. Have you watched any of the Monday Night Football kind of telecasts or simulcasts, I guess, where he and Peyton kind of chop it up? I have not because Peyton is not part of my football sitcom narrative. I think because Peyton is like on purpose funny in a way that Eli is not part of my football sitcom narrative. I think because Peyton is on purpose funny

in a way that Eli is not. And I don't want that to infect my goals. Wow. I love that. Is it good? Do you watch it? I don't watch it. But the things that I've heard make them both sound very smart about

football, which also kind of interferes with the my preferred narrative around eli but yeah let's just go for his agent man yeah that's what we'll do next we'll go after his agent tom condon pitch him direct oh i was gonna say we're gonna talk about like the news stories we could cover today but i think we should just like strategize about this eli show all the time. Yeah. Because we know some people at CAA, you know? Yeah. Straight to them. We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a few of the stories we're talking about. Dumb spies. We're going to talk about two dumb spies that just got caught.

There is a long tradition of dumb spies that I would like to just take a quick look at. of dumb spies that i i would like to just take a quick look at but spies in general are not what you see in movies unless you're talking about like the movie spy with melissa mccarthy like that that is more in line with like the the spy comedies seem to be more in line with like what actual how actual spies operate or at least the ones we know about because they're bad and get caught um you're not doing dead drops in a peanut butter sandwich yeah there's a john lecar story i always talk about like you know the great spy novelist who he wrote this like non-fiction article for the new yorker about his time in mi5 or whatever the mi is that's the cia for british people and he talks about like this like hyper super secret mission he was on with this guy who's

like doing dead drops but like the guy was actually like doing dead drops with himself and had just like completely lost it and was like just creating this whole thing this whole like air of mystery because he was paranoid and also bored and this was like at the height of the cold war in berlin wow so we'll talk about that we'll talk about the dependency ratio uh china's economy missed its mark this past quarter and the new york times is not talking about the dependency ratio so i always like to bring that up we're gonna ask the question what the fuck is jesus ween because that's coming up everyone's favorite holiday jesus you see that tweet dan no there's i saw it like last week where someone just took a picture of the back of a bus and it said jesus ween. And I was like, what? And I'm glad we'll now find out what Jesusween is.

So excited to learn. The full sign is, should Jesusween replace Halloween? Jesusween.com. This is a great. Check it out. We will talk about the time travelers who are populating social media. They're all over the place. They're so hot right now.

We're going to talk about that. All of that, plenty more. But first, Daniel, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Yes. Most recently, I searched, how soon can I start packing before a move? And this tells you a few major things about me. One, most obviously, it tells you that I major things about me. One, most obviously it tells you that I'm moving in the future.

It is at the time of recording, it's October 18th. I'm not moving until December 31st. It's very far out there. And so this also tells you, I'm not planning on anything resembling like an in-home social life for the next several months. I've written off my future.

It's going to be just boxes and nowhere to sit for a while. And most tellingly, I think it reminds everyone that even in my mid-30s, I'm still very focused on what is the normal way to go about doing things. I want to make sure, even if I don't follow it, I want to be aware of what it is. So that's like Google is my non-judgmental friend where i can just go like what's a normal way for a human to move and then it tells me like okay good it's good to know it's uh google suggests by the way two to three weeks before the move which is not what i'm i'm insufficient google now yeah i'm getting yeah i'm getting severe Doesn't sleep the night before a flight. Yeah. Vibes from, you know, like just kind of packs and repacks. Yeah, that's smart. It's

better than the alternative, which I have engaged in many times, which is just kind of throwing everything into a garbage bag. Yeah. Yeah. And then throwing that in the back of a U-Haul. Yeah. Those first moves in or right after college is when you're like just packing up the construction bags. You're like boxes? No, man. I'll put all these books and pans in a garbage bag and throw them in a truck. Yeah. And the amount of things when I left L.A. for New York, it was a very quick move.

And there are so many things that i'm like that i'll just go without a colander and i throw it out like things that i would sooner get rid of than like bother finding a new box for it and then as soon as i am in my new place and i'm boiling water oh shit i need a colander yeah did you try the thing where you just like break the cap or the lid of the thing very slightly and then dump still dump half the pasta out? That's a crack in the lid. Yeah. Crack in the lid. But it's completely insufficient replacement. Or the steam creeps out and burns the part of your hand and then you let go and it's on the sink. And like, God, it's just a fucking failure. Fortunately, there are sweatshirts for

that so you can just today is we forgot to mention up top national seafood bisque day just to let everybody oh i mean that's what we're celebrating today is that october 18th or 19th 19th i know we're recording it then but it's look a little peek behind the curtain sorry as we celebrate this it will be national Seafood Biscuit Day. And you did mention it was Shocktober. Is that is that a do you celebrate? Are you an observer of Shocktober? I don't really care for Halloween.

It's not like a big holiday for me. But anytime someone says October, very academically correcting them to shocktober it's very fun to me i really enjoy that yeah wait is there something is that a real thing or that's just a colloquialism for just because it's spooky october we call it shocktober or is there like an actual phenomenon i'm missing out on not that i know of i think it's one of those things that was like shocktober at knots barrett not scary farm yeah whatever Which they really fucked up with the naming of that because it just sounds like it's any other day at Knott's Berry Farm, which is not scary.

Yes. Oh, wow. It's a sound alike. What is something you think is overrated, Daniel? Finishing books. Not just like Broadway. There was a tweet going around a week or so ago

about how it's rude to the author if you don't finish books. Did you guys cover this on the show already? No, it's just someone, I don't know what their background is, but they were like, the way that almost all discourse on Twitter is where it starts in the middle of a conversation you didn't know you were having, and they're already mad at so it's all caps it's mean it's disrespectful to the author

right to stop their book before you're done like the author doesn't care and and like and I as someone who used to finish every book that I started like had had personal rules about it like once you're you're in it you're in it uh i've i've since abandoned that and i'm much happier i don't think there there's any honor as a reader in finishing a book if you're not enjoying it and as someone who's written books i don't care i don't know if you finish it and also like i just how to fight presidents i wrote that book so you can read it while taking a shit and then you put it down and move on with your life in one sitting yes um yeah it's really life is too short to to like be 30 or 100 pages through the third act of steven king book yeah i i find myself doing that with history books like when i buy like any kind of

historical book i usually like it's usually something i have some partial knowledge around and then i'll get to the part i know mostly about and then i'm like all right i got the good part out of this right like you're still waiting to figure out how world war ii ends right yeah yeah but shut the fuck up dude i was like i bought this bought this book on William Tecumseh Sherman because I'm really interested in him as a general and things like that and just kind of his whole outlook on the world and the Civil War and things like that.

But I knew a lot of this stuff of the main battles, but there's a lot of information about him before that I wasn't really up on. And so once I got through the first half of the book and we were kind of getting heavily into the Civil War, I was like, all right, I got it. I got what I need here. I got what I need.

I got this. Tecumseh. That name needs to come back, by the way. Hey, Tech from the real world. Do you remember that guy? His name was Tecumseh? His name was Tecumseh. I think he was named after Tecumseh.

His whole name was Tecumseh. I used to smoke weed with him. What is something you think is underrated, Daniel? Routines. I'm a convert to a routine lifestyle there's a trope in like heist movies that i used to think was made up like like uh oceans 11 and they would say benedict leaves his office every day at 11 0 5 to get a coffee which he sips for three minutes and then he walks across the street to this place for four minutes like man that's really fucking convenient for your heist that you're robbing from an alien and no one actually behaves that way but sometime during the pandemic a switch flipped in my brain and i'm such a routine person now and i just love it it's very like my my life is not regimented to the minute or anything like that. But like,

I have a morning routine. I have a nighttime routine. I have a post work routine. I have a midday routine. And I love all of them. I love that kind of structure. And like alarms go off on my phone when it's time for me to get up and walk my dog. And when it's time for me to like do a little stretch and alarm, my phone goes into do not disturb mode the same time every night. And that means I'm not allowed to look at my phone anymore. It's locked me out of it. And that starts my bedtime routine. And I just love it. That sounds, I mean, you're, you're outing yourself as someone who's incredibly easy to heist at this point, but he cannot, he doesn't talk to nobody after a certain point so right yeah that's when we strike yeah i'm both scattered and probably less uh fulfilled and

happy than you are but uh nobody's getting one over on me because i'm i'm a fucking loose cannon out here in my daily routine man sometimes they'll just fuck off in the middle of a recording. And I'm like, got to keep him on their toes. I'm like, I'll be back in 40. And then the guest is like, what? And I'm like, I'm sorry. He can never get got. This is part of his genius.

Yeah, man. The morning routine part. The closest I've done or began to implement any rule is to try try and get to like that first 40 minutes without looking at my phone in the morning just to not set off like the hyper brain activity shit so early because like i used to be able to like wake up and scroll twitter y'all like just go straight into that and you know doing that has helped a lot actually just to kind of maintain some semblance of humanity yeah i've definitely wanted to i've definitely seen the value in a routine but it's i think it must be tougher tougher if you have children yeah the children blow up your routine

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But first, let's talk about. Oh, no, but I also have Japanese. Yeah. Actually, don't tell me what happened. Yeah. Oh, boy. See, that's why I didn't want any spoilers. Yeah.

So we'll talk about that in a moment. First, some of the remnants of that, which is our dumb spy culture that is still lingering. And took in one Jonathan and Diana Tobe. He's a 42. Did I mispronounce that? No, I don't know. It's T-O-E-B-B-E. That's like a loaded name. I can see it being Tobe, Tobe,

Tobe B, with a double B in it. I don't know. Tobe B? Yeah. That's rarely how we pronounce two B's in a row. Hey, anything's possible right now. I think B's in a row. Hey, anything's possible right now. I think that's a funny bit. Hey, no B.

All consonants that are doubled up. Conunning ham. Just being honest. Conunning ham. All right. So he's a 42-year-old Navy nuclear engineer. She's a 45-year-old teacher. What's the Avril lavigne song could anything be

more something any more obvious obvious any more obvious yeah so there we go they look very normal they look like what i would expect those descriptions to like create in my mind of the random generator of 42 year old nuclear and nuclear engineer and 45 year old teacher from annapolis would look like but they got caught up in a spy thriller of their own making yeah wow i think people heard that like two americans were caught trying to sell secrets to a foreign government and that was as much as i knew till i read the article and it's so much more sad than that, and these people were living in a fucking fantasy world. So they got arrested by the FBI

because, again, they were selling nuclear technology or attempting to to a foreign government, and their trial begins this week, and they could potentially be facing life sentences for this, and the whole thing is their operation is like kind of confusing for a number of reasons like they didn't ask for a lot of money initially like a hundred grand or something in crypto and their motives aren't really known and but they were like spectacularly amateur about the whole thing like the man

jonathan toby or toba bay was clearly like had a penchant for tradecraft like was really into this stuff so first this guy sent a letter to a foreign government and it's unnamed in the criminal complaint it just says it's they're referred to as country one but most people are presuming it's an ally because we'll you'll you'll hear later on why it's probably an ally of the united states and possibly france which we'll also get into because of this man's imagination so first he sent a letter to foreign government one

saying like hey here's some like nuclear sub propulsion technology like some information on our propulsion systems make a little down payment and I will keep the real information flowing just so you know that I'm real with this stuff. Then this is where they fucked up is he just sent this letter to presumably some foreign intelligence person.

That government just went to the FBI a few months later and they're like, yeah, one of your people is trying to sell us nuclear sub secrets. So I don't know if you want to take over this. They did. A special agent immediately began posing as the person they thought they were interacting with. And that's probably another reason why they presume it's an ally, because most people are like, I don't think Russia would be like, hey, they're trying to sell me some Russian sub secrets. They would probably be like, thank you for these sub secrets. Let's keep this going or any any other adversarial nation. And then so this FBI agent begins posing as, you know, this person on the other side. And this is what this they describe sort of what this the next few months were the next few months were like a chronicle of encrypted letters, dead drop locations and cryptocurrency transfers, all rather expertly instigated by Toby, a self-proclaimed amateur in this realm, which suggests that he picked up the lingo and tools of tradecraft from the world

of cinema and publishing. In this Slate article, they go on to say that in the complaint, that some of Toby's letters reprinted at embarrassing length in the complaint seemed to lift entire quotes from The Courier, the underrated movie about the Oleg Penkovsky case. So he was just being like, here's that. I'm talking like a spy to this actual spy of another nation. And yeah, they dropped off more than 11,000 pages of like this confidential data. And like one of the thumb drives in a peanut butter sandwich, and they got 100,000 in crypto in exchange. And I guess there was going to be more, but people were like, that's kind of a low bar, considering you're now looking at life in prison.

Right. His payment was more getting to use the lingo and put thumb drives in peanut butter sandwiches, which I would assume fucking ruined it. Yeah, I don't know. You probably saran wrap the jump drive. Okay. And then you smear it and come on, Jack. See, that's why they pay you the smuggle box. Shit, I just blew your cover.

That's what the French pay me to do. Never mind, never mind. Delete, delete, delete. But a lot of people were saying like another reason they thought it was an ally because this guy Toby was like, I need you to prove to me that like you're on the up. Like, well, I will be in D.C. with my wife at your embassy. Or they said at a building that you own, presumably an embassy or consulate, like give a signal. So I know that like you are like the government knows and like you're trying to communicate with me. Apparently, this guy got that signal when he went to D.C., whatever it was.

And this is the part where it gets really just kind of sad. This is just one of the letters that he wrote to this guy. This letter is amazing. This is what he says. Thank you. So again, this is the transmission of information that's begun. Money has been exchanged and they see more coming down the road. This is from Jonathan.

Quote, thank you for your partnership as well, my friend. One day when it is safe, perhaps two old friends will have a chance to stumble into each other at a cafe, share a bottle of wine, and laugh over stories of their shared exploits. A fine thought, but I agree that our mutual need for security

may make that impossible. Whether we meet up or no, I will always remember your bravery in serving your country and your commitment to helping me oh my god what what a bummer yeah like yeah you're just randomly there and you're like hello right yeah just a quick quick hat tip there's yeah that is the one thing we know about this guy is he's seen dark night rises and doesn't realize he's pulling from that

in that part, probably. Or doesn't think the person reading it will realize that. Yeah. I love the FBI's decision to humiliate this person because they could have, like, at the get-go, as soon as France was like, hey, America, someone sent a letter that said, dear France.

Right. Here's your propulsion system. we think you should we think you should go get him yeah like the fbi could have just said hey we know this stop it but they're like no no no no let's see where he goes with this and i i love that petty decision well right because he's texting me he's texting me come over here come over here yeah yeah dude hey get him to send a picture of himself doing some spy stuff okay okay show me your dead drop opsec please okay i've got this i mean that's the thing is they're charged with violating the atomic energy act is like sort of what they're what these charges are stemming from and you it's not you violated the second accordion language of

the law when you've even attempted or conspired to transmit information so yeah i get yeah i'm sure they just want to be like okay how deep is this going but i think maybe they're like is this person for real because it's not a lot of money this person's so naive and this is still going but he keeps texting me isn't it cool to be a spy a whole lot yeah dude sent me love to spy he made a custom shirt that says spy bros for life in one of my address so he could send me one um but the thing is that they the other reason why i think it's france some people are like is it because like that cafe and bottle of wine was like meant to evoke like some french like street cafe or something but also because it has to do with nuclear submarines it's possibly because if you remember

last month micron lost his shit over the u.s doing a deal with australia for nuclear sub technology and if it is france they were like bro we could have got that shit for nothing and not said anything. And we told you guys and then you fucking snaked us and then to another nuclear sub deal. What the fuck was that? Which I have a feeling may have given like why that response was like that. Yeah. But again, it's all just very sloppy and sad and fun. Do we know is Topa B's motives?

Is it is it just coherency at this point or like does he have a vendetta against america as well it's really hard to know at this point it really is it's it's very difficult to know but i think that's like another question people are asking is like what is what could the damage actually be the u.s like they they have two young kids and so like they go to jail for like life like this is all kinds of bad not to say like think of the children but like it's like what what is this like what is this i mean is that gonna be the like are they gonna go to the letter of the law like that and put these people away for life if not i don't know like right are we allowed to have like a sliding scale application of the law where it's like we know what we know what they did but they're too

dumb to do it they're like clearly harmless i don't think that's not a great precedent to set no we're already doing that yeah we're already supplying that to the insurrectionists now right right and they've been like well they were so dumb honestly like there was no way they're going to get away with it so how's a little bit of probation for you? Yeah. Yeah. Back in our days at Cracked, we covered a bunch of, like, just inept spies to the point that it seemed like this was the rule rather than the exception. There's a guy, Aldrich Ames, who, like, kept getting in trouble with the CIA for getting drunk and fighting cops at bars.

And then like, he just decided to turn into a trader in 1985. And his trade craft was he would drive up to the Soviet embassy with a box full of documents and just like bring them in and then walk out with a bag of money. And like, and it took them like eight years to catch him and there's just so many of these wait so he was a you said he was a cia agent or what was this guy's position yeah he was

a cia he was constantly getting in trouble for uh yeah he was frequently reprimanded for sleeping on the job at the cia which is a gig he almost didn't get because he kept fighting police officers. And then, like, I think actually slept with a... This might be a different one, but one of the ones from this was also constantly getting drunk and getting into fights and was, like, sleeping with multiple secret agents

from foreign countries. It's just constantly people fucking up and then the cia being like five years in being like i think we got them all the guys carrying a a bag of rubles and driving around like taking a fucking helicopter to the office i mean i don't know it's it's hard to know really like what these people thought they were going to get away with or how they thought it was going to make their lives better like the prosecutors seem to think like they just wanted like a nest egg to kind of just like guarantee like their next like financial phase of their life right like fuck man if if you like you got

look if you're gonna commit crimes like that got to know what the fuck your life is worth. Yeah. Can't be no hundred K in Dogecoin. Like fucking swing for the fucking fences if you're going to go to prison for L. Come on now. All right. Let's talk really briefly about the dependency ratio, just because I think it continues to be one of the most underrated kind of forces or explanations in kind of macroeconomics in the modern world. There's a story in the New York Times about how China's economy has continued to slow and it like focuses on steel mills facing power cuts and computer chip shortages and, you know, troubled property companies. There's like a big real estate kind of meltdown happening in China.

But it doesn't mention anywhere this thing that I always... I come back to it. This is on par with the British coal gas study and Tom Hanks peeing in every movie is a thing I just bring up at every opportunity that I get. But yeah, and Havana syndrome as well. But it's basically like you put working age people on one side of a scale, you put people who are too young or too old to work on the other side. And the more that the working age people outweigh the other people, the dependence, which is why it's called the dependency ratio, the stronger the economy like tends to perform over over a long period of time. And if you like this basically explains the 20th century, like the U.S.'s like unprecedented baby

boom was working its way through working age during when America's like economy really took off. And now that they're all hitting retirement age, it's starting to slow down. And China is a really interesting example of this because they did the one-child experiment. Their one-child policy was basically a way to force a really favorable dependency ratio by artificially shrinking the number of dependents. And so they had this huge population of people who are going through working age and then much smaller dependents and can be seen as fueling their massive economic growth. But now that big chunk of working age people is hitting retirement.

So as I'm trying to explain it, I'm starting to see why it's not raised that much because it's kind of boring. But I think it's also like it takes some of the agency and heroism and the sort of deserving out of America's economic success and particularly the economic success of the baby boomers like the idea that they're just like a lucky demographic cohort is probably like something that baby boomers are allergic to and they're you know still even though the median population of america is 38 i think if you like look at the median population of America is 38 I think if you like look at the median population of powerful people in the country it's probably squarely

in the heart of like the baby boomer set and I just feel like that generation's entire worldview wants to believe that they are special and better than everyone and earned their financial success broadly yeah just broadly speaking because

we know we don't and i love when the boomers i gang come through and they're like i'm not like the other boomers we're like sure sure yeah i mean a terrible show right there's no way but yeah i mean and then i also think like just the one child policy is a very like don't know, is one of the strangest or like most kind of inexplicable policies if you just totally take the dependency ratio out of the equation. It's just, and I feel like we'd never really think about like why they did that or how it relates to their financial success. So what does that mean for us? It it just means that so what one detail that kind of jumped out at me other than like i think it like there's a relationship between like america's like white supremacy and their ability to just be like ah china doing the one child policy that's

weird they're weird just like not thinking about it any further it also relates to immigration policy because u.s like one of the main forces that is keeping the u.s median age like and dependency ratio in a good place is the you know massive immigration or you know the urge for immigration that the gop like wants to wants to fight against and it just seems coincidental or not coincidental that the people who are like the most like baby boomer ass party the gop wants to like fight against immigration and they're also the ones who would like most want to ignore the financial realities of like the dependency ratio being the reason that they have their success but that's kind of one of the reasons that people think that the dependency ratio is going to hit china harder than the u.s is by 2050 like the u.s's population is supposed to

you know grow by quite a bit because of the dependency ratio and China's is supposed to shrink because of people are more likely to leave the country than want to come there. So that's that story. And that's all I have to say about that. And one child policy, base level, we agree is a bad idea yes okay good all right yes yes yes yes because at one point you're like and this one one child policy and then there was a long pause and then you landed on pretty so strange i was like yeah strange keep going though yeah yeah very uh really uh quirky yeah they were quirky I don't want to say authoritarian

Right Just forward thinking What were they They were really looking at that though Huh No I think it's funny too Because there's Immigration is such one of these

Issues in the country where It's looked at as like It of these issues in the country where there's there's it's like it's it's looked at as like it's it's the end of the country but no one acknowledges that so many of the the great things about of about this place is that it's because of people coming here from different places whether that's just the opportunity it provides or you know cuisine i think a lot of people i think for a lot of people were like, fuck immigrants realize a lot of the food you're eating that you even think is American is because of this melting pot that the United States became. And then also on top of it, the everyone, I think that's the other part they don't talk about is the financial aspect for people who are so focused on

like the economy of it all. Like if you were just actually playing with facts and figures like, no, okay. Yeah, this, we can handle more people being here, but it's also this fear of a brown or of it all like if you were just actually playing with facts and figures like no okay yeah this we can handle more people being here but it's also this fear of a brown or not so alabaster white america that fears a lot of it drives a lot of the fear around it yeah absolutely yeah and just in relation to world war ii like i i think miles cover your ears. Yeah. Spoiler alert. The fact that the U.S. had this massive population boom and generation, you know, the baby boom that drove their financial success well. And we were just like, and we took credit for winning World War II. While Russia, who actually, like, you know, all of their working age

people like died in World War II while actually doing a lot of the, you know, horrible work that was required to win that is also a pretty big, you know, reason that the U.S. ended up winning the Cold War or at least like outlasting the ussr but again not not the sort of thing that people in the u.s want to acknowledge especially in like the mainstream media all right miles you can start listening again all right what happened i'm just watching that movie enemy at the gates with jude law i hope it doesn't spoil anything. I feel like it was only like recently, like in the last couple of years or like someone on TV was like, no, we only won the war because of Russia. You know that, right?

And people are like, oh, like it was it was as if people like it was anathema to everyone's like, oh, my. What does this person say? That is a historian that is acknowledging what happened on the Eastern front? Huh. Okay. But yeah, I don't think it's still built. It's part of our idea that, yeah, we dropped bomb. People gave up.

We beat Hitler. Good night. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy that all those boomers helped Russia win the war. Russia never would have done it if the boomers hadn't just told them, go ahead and do it, please. Hit after hit from that generation.

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And we're back and so a photo of a bus advertisement in toronto was circulating on twitter a couple weeks ago promoting the website jesus we n.com that's the only time i'm going to attempt that joke because i can't i can't think of what has two letters unless it's directly in front of me. But yeah, like we said up top, should Jesus wean, replace Halloween. So a group of Christian kind of extremists by some measures are trying to co-opt Halloween by turning it into Jesus wean, advertising about it on city buses. They've been doing this for the past 10 years. It began with a pastor in Canada who had the brilliant idea that Christians should hand out Bibles instead of candy on Halloween, you know, because what better way to indoctrinate the youth than by stoking the rage every child feels when they get anything

besides candy on Halloween. It's like colonizer Christmas, like handing out Bibles to people who don't want them. What the fuck is that? We had a house every year that would give out stamps and we had a house every year that would give out a roll of pennies. And I tell you, the level of fury that eight-year-olds would get after being handed money right was very intense like i don't care that this is currency i'm here for candy that's what the day's about so if these guys turned around and gave you a book that's that's you're

gonna have a ride on your hands yeah like glow sticks even felt like a like a fuck you you guys got glow sticks i remember one time someone gave out glow sticks instead of candy that is definitely for the younger demographic because kids are minds are fucking melted by glow sticks yeah and then you like you you keep them in the freezer because i remember like an adult was like yeah keep them in the freezer they last longer and i'm like do they they don't this yeah some stupid weird logic yeah an adult presented to me as a child also good for the glow sticks i don't think my interest in glow sticks is going to last very long i feel like it begins and ends with look at this thing glowing all right

there you go on to another thing turn the lights off turn the lights off look look look look look it's trailing so one of the jesus win websites has a promotional image which features a grown woman proudly holding a Bible and a small child who is not in a costume being handed the earth by a smiling couple. And they're all in a white void of nothingness. not supposed to wear a costume, but rather just a plain white top to symbolize righteousness and the love of God to all mankind, which is just kind of objectively less fun than

dressing like Batman. Yeah. Unless you think of like, you know, Christ's love also has a lot of superpowers too, if you think about it. Yeah, in a lot of ways, the original Superman. Yeah, exactly. Here we go here we go let's start our youth church i mean i am trying to split the difference this year and dressing my kids up as a zombie but the zombie is very clearly the risen christ

armed with uh but the jesus wing website covers well what one thing they say on their uh on their website is that every christian is expected to wear a white top to symbolize righteousness like we just mentioned the money normally used to buy costumes can be given to ministries that print christian books to help the unsaved so it's part of that whole like saved and then you're good and can do it whatever the fuck you want uh or unsaved and you burn in the eternal pits of hell but then they go on to say or give such funds to jesus wean or food banks to help the poor whoa whoa is thrown in as the third option behind uh giving it to jesusen. Yikes. I'm sorry.

So what are they going to do with the money? Just keep preaching the gospel of a terrible holiday and all that? Yeah, I think you just got to drive that money right back into more bus ads. More bus ads, more Photoshop work of a couple handing... Crudely smashed together stock stock images are these the same people that do like the religious scary haunted houses like it feels like isn't that like it feels like a natural

offshoot of those people who have like those like christian haunted houses i think it's probably like driven by the same sort of forces but it doesn't appear to be quite related. But yeah, just Christianity coming up against the coolest holiday of all and just trying to figure out a way to work their way into it. I get it. As a Christian, I understand Halloween is when Jesus Christ slew Dracula. A lot of people forget that. And it's a bummer to see how commercialized it's gotten and how hardly anyone talks about that fatal fight on top of Mount Sinai. But, you know, the holiday doesn't belong to you anymore. You just have to deal with that.

Yeah, it is very frustrating. It was actually called Mount Sinai, but it was spooky for the original authors of the Bible. There you go. The website also covers what you're supposed to do when like you can give a kid a Bible and they try to fight you. Apparently you're supposed to yell, Jesus loves you at the children without getting into quote, any argument of some sort.

I mean, how do you even play that out? What is this lady? A fucking Bible? Jesus loves you. And there or there or in their mind, they go, can you say that again? Jesus loves me. Pathetic like myself. That's that's definitely the version that they have in mind.

surely not like myself that's that's definitely the version that they have in mind like i i maybe that's what they could put their jesus wean budget into is like some dramatic short films showing like the various ways to like some training films for getting at bibles on jesus wean yeah i like that they're anticipating like so what should i do if the inevitable thing happens. Right. It's like the equivalent of what Tobebe was reading for his spy books. Right. It's just like, clearly you don't follow this advice, but when you are caught by the FBI, this is what you're going to say.

Like, yikes. So it doesn't seem like Jesus Ween really caught on this started 10 years ago. 10 years ago? Holy cats. Yeah, it's been going on. This started 10 years ago. 10 years ago? Holy cats! Yeah, it's been going on. They've called it the most effective Christian outreach day, but that is certainly a self-reported statistic that

is based on absolutely no metrics. But there's some advertisements for Jesus weaned parties this, and they show kids wearing generic stock photos, Halloween costumes. So in particular, a young man wearing a M superhero costume, just completely generic thing that your parents would try to give you. Like if you asked to be a superhero and they wanted to disappoint you as much as possible the m is for moses the font on the m looks vaguely like the m&m candy yeah they cut it together first uh they got him a costume that was the yellow m yeah and then he's like i want to a superhero. And they're like, here, put these bangles on. I've made a blue painter's tape.

You're going to look great. And this ad for this Jesus ween party that has the young, young Moses superhero boy. And I like in the corner says lot of games, free food, gifts, candles. Come on. I think it's candies. But. Oh, is that what it is? I mean, it probably should be candles.

Yeah, why the fuck would I think it's candles? I mean, because it's Jesus weaned, man. Yeah, and there's no like... They seem to be anti-candies. Damn. All right, well, they got me there. Free food, gifts, and candies. This kid in particular also needs an faq for like what happens

when the kids ask me what my costume is say jesus loves you all right okay i did i tried that now they're beating me and laughing at me right what should i just louder jesus when your body ascends to heaven that you will be seated at his right hand yeah they will be cast to the demonic hellscape that is satan okay okay mom Okay, mom, I tried that. They are unmoved. Wait, mom, I'm dead. I'm dead. Mom, mom, mom.

The ad in question. I don't want to make this whole story about this ad, but it is truly something to behold. It says celebrate life in ransom note font. Yeah. Which is interesting. It gives it like kind of an unnerving. And then it also, the website states that this holiday exists because Christian days of hiding are over. They're going to take a stand for Jesus, which is one of my favorite trends in Christianity,

to pretend like they are a persecuted minority. Yeah. No one's ever heard of it. No one ever on earth has ever heard of that plus sign that has come into their landscapes for many, many a century. Yeah. But that's also part of like the thing, you know, like you got to give a, it's like the same thing with evangelical conservatives too.

It's like the same, very much like, you know, silent majority type thing of like you got to get out there let them know we're here and we're not backing down from and also jesus loves them but yeah yeah and also jesus loves you yeah when uh when uh rushing the capitol building in dc just tell them jesus you. And they will direct you straight to the Senate chamber. Yeah.

Reminds me of bless your heart, which is the Southern person way of saying like, wow, you are fucked. You are fucked in the worst way. You are utterly fucked, my friend. All right.

Let's talk about the time travelers that have been discovered on social media because there's a young man named Javier who is here from the year. I don't I don't know if they say, OK, 2027. Yeah. By then, humanity will have gone extinct. And the proof for this that has gotten like millions and millions of views on TikTok tiktok is a video of an empty playground he's like yeah i brought this back from the future y'all like there's like playgrounds are literally empty yeah the power's still on though the wi-fi works the power's on playgrounds are empty i mean this is this is the hell on earth that we're experiencing in 2027.

Okay, low bar, I guess. You could never find an empty playground in 2021. We don't. There are too many kids. They're everywhere. Even before that 2020, everyone was outside everywhere all the time. Constantly playing on playgrounds. This has to be real.

Yeah. One of my biggest frustrations, because I talked about my routines, is finding my afternoon Playground time completely crowded. Overwhelmed. My 3.30 Playground time. Then the dad's like, hey man, can my kid have

some time on the swing? And I'm like, I've been here since 8 a.m. Finders keepers. Yeah, there's all sorts of... This has been a long trend on social media since way back in the 90s. There was a guy named John something who came through.

Oh, Titor. John Titor, who claimed that he was from the year 2034, was back to grab a 70s IBM computer. And the reason he needed it is because in the year 2034 was back to grab a 70s ibm computer and the reason he needed it is because in the year 2034 they were still dealing with the fallout uh following the y2k disaster i mean you can trust any guy who like they their first appearance claiming to be a time travel is on art bells coast to coast like yeah that's the of course you're a time travel is on art bell's coast to coast like that's the of course you're a time traveler if you're not something's wrong because art bell only finds the just the most fantastic people like yeah the people who go to the you know

reptilian underworld and fought their leader and won and came back to tell art bell that he's like yes i beat him and i gotta go back down there and he's like uh-, so I beat him. And I got to go back down there. And he's like, uh-huh, uh-huh. Okay, go on. Sounds good so far. Yeah, yeah. This all tracks. And then there was a YouTube trend in which young white guys basically confess that they're time travelers from the future.

Usually their faces are blurred, voices distorted. And one of the most popular was a British guy named Michael Phillips who claimed that he knew Titor, who, by the way, according to this guy, did 9-11. And I just want to read... Wait, Phillips says that Titor did 9-11? Yes.

And I just want to read from a quote from him. It was decided that America needed a single unifying event to bring the country together and to revert a civil war. I think maybe you meant prevent. And that event was 9-11. So that's what happened there. Like a true historical person. So that's what happened there in reference to 9-11. That's my favorite sentence I've ever written on the internet. In case anyone was wondering, that's what happened there. Yeah. Like, it sounds like a drunk dude lying at a bar about it.

Like, oh, what about 9-11? He's like, yeah, we just needed a single unifying event to unite the country and revert to civil war So that's what happened there Case closed on that one Yeah So what else do you want to know about I love this

I want this version of time travelers to be true I want time travelers to all be dirt bags And to come back in time and be like I know that guy he did 9-11 Fuck that guy Feels like a Rick and Morty Like and to come back in time and be like, I know that guy. He did 9-11. Fuck that guy. Yeah. It was like a Rick and Morty,

like, like, like a story line or something. Like the scumbag time travelers who like hate each other. They're not trying to prevent anything or share knowledge. They're like, Hey, stop listening to that guy. He did fucking Katrina.

Right. Oh, you wish you knew. I'm not going to tell you. I don't even look. Let's move on. Their stories usually fall apart anytime, as indicated by the still dealing with the Y2K disaster.

Their stories usually fall apart the second they try to make a prediction of any sort. Dude, can we just play? I just want to play the Michael Phillips, his thing, his like famous viral video where he reveals the World War III details. Oh, you're talking about Time Traveler from 2075 reveals World War III details? Yeah, of course. Oh, yeah. Our boy Michael Phillips, dude, born in 2043. 9.5 million views.

And listen to this and tell me if I feel like at a very specific point, you know that this doesn't make sense because he's like, first of all, he's like acting like it's a TV movie. But just how serious he is about everything and his background and understanding that how he became a time traveler. Okay. And I'm going to go into this with an open mind and an open heart, ready to believe him. Okay, good. That's all we have. I want to be weird and I also want to believe him. Okay, good. That's all we ask. I want to be weed, and I also want to believe him. There you go. At the age of 18, I joined the army. I had a few years there, and then I was recruited into the

SAS, the 21st SAS Russian Army, to be exact. We carried out a number of missions in countries that I'm not allowed to name because I've signed the official secret site. Okay. I have a big problem with a time traveler who won't violate his NDA from the future. I'd tell you where we were operated,

but I can't because I've signed the Official Secrecy Act, but I've also traveled here to help you out. But I'm also going to explain how I time traveled, which wasn't an NDA. I had to sign. They said there are massive fucking loopholes in this NDA. I got to tell you, I just tell you everything except this one detail. It's weird. They got me there and I don't I don't they will sue you.

I don't want to go to court unless, you know, a barrister that's going to represent me. You've seen judge dread you know how future courts are but i'm just like i just love that this whole thing is to have all this info but an nda thwarted you yeah is this so funny and then that's in the first 20 seconds and it's had to stop i was like fantastic so it turns out most of these videos come from a single channel called this is web sleuths have figured this out by just clicking on the channel that uploaded these it's called apex tv and one of their biggest time travel success stories was a guy named noah who claimed he was from the year

2030 and he had proof like a uh what he claimed was a history book uh page from the year 2019 2020 that is clearly just a printer like something that he printed out it doesn't even look like a book from a page it looks like a you know eight and a half by eleven it was ripped in half yeah it was ripped in half and then two inch margins he didn't even like burn the edges anything. But he just crumpled it up and then uncrumpled it. Yeah. But as we now know, that is how our history books look these days. Yeah. The entry is just two years?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's also how history books work now. And it includes... So it's like bullet pointed. They call it encyclopedias. Or maybe is it double spaced? I can't tell because they've blurred it. It's like fucking pointed and they call it encyclopedias or maybe is it double spaced i can't tell because they've like it's like fucking quadruple space i didn't read the book i need to get to a certain page count and i don't care if they ding me on the font size or spacing when i

turn it in type in right it's impressively kind of shabby and it includes from the year 2019 2020 things we all remember such as uh our you know discovery and friendship with aliens and uh robotic eyes we all got robot eyes now so then it's it's just offensive to people who like look i i love a a quirky, but like, make it fucking good. You know, like, yeah. Like, oh, that's dope. Like, look at that. That's like they really fake that encyclopedia page. The fact that this guy is holding it up.

It's like his idea of an encyclopedia is a fucking yearbook where it's a hyphenated two year thing like 2019 2020. Like it's an NFL season. Like, and this is what happened in this one. And then you just have these bullet points that says in the future aliens are also found this is from the thing he has they crash all over the world and we uncover them and we become peaceful with aliens like okay very academic april the first commercial robotic eye was released allowing blind people to see boom no names no details and kovitz not in there either huh pal he also kind of made a mistake with

the tensing there uh since the tent he wrote that in the future tents in the future aliens are found hey come on come on come on man what is this why are you breaking my balls here i'm a time traveler man but then so somebody did even deeper internet sleuthing than just clicking on the channel name and found out who this dude was and explained that he was just a teenager. And that video where they reveal who the person is and all that shit, it has 5,000 views.

And so then he started doing videos where he like kind of admitted to it and then apex tv put out their like competing narrative where they're like now that guy's a fraud we got this other guy who we had faked the story but he was fooling us so but apparently apex tv not the most up and up YouTube channel. They got him to start doing the videos for them when he was 14 by giving him $20 and asking him to make the video by himself, which is exactly what they look like. Hey, but you know what is consistent with time travel, though? They tried to get him and his family to sign an NDA when they did it. That's how you know it's time travel. So there's always NDAs with time travel.

Yeah. I like that he explains in one of the videos the reason he looks so young is because he takes futuristic anti-aging pills, which I'm pretty sure I tried when I was 15 trying to buy beer. I was like, ah, man, I know. I know. I get it. trying to buy beer. I was like, ah, man, I know, I know. I get it, but you have to.

All right. I love the fantasy of people in the future still describing things. Do you want some of these futuristic? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put them in my future wallet. Thank you. I love that. I'm so future hungry.

I'm on my futuristic smartphone. That's why I wish I was still blown away by all the technology that was invented 15 years ago. It's the way that you and I walk around and we're like, man, it sucks wearing these old timey clothes. I'm here in the past. Right. Such a bimder. That's what we call bummer in the future.

There's all kinds of new ways of talking out there. But yeah, I love my futuristic Apple iPhone 11 Pro Max from the future. It was actually the best phone. So we just kept using it. That's sort of the thing. So I wouldn't buy one after this is what I would say. But these stories have been like picked up on the Daily Mail and other places. So, you know, keep a keen eye out when you're out there looking for news on the sun or the mirror.

Yeah, the mail, though, I love. Yeah. And the sun. or The Mirror. Yeah, The Mail, though, I love. Yeah, and The Sun. I mean, that's where we got our great coverage of the lady who married the pirate ghost that she was married to and then had a divorce. Yeah. And nudity.

Just one of the things that will never not surprise me when you're in another country and the newspapers have just topless women on the cover. Just for what? Is that part of the story? No, no, no. Just because it sells papers. It's pretty amazing.

It's just a headline that's like, hey, pretty nice, right? Pretty nice, right? Also, Time Traveler's page three. It's like, yo, this newspaper's got it all. Daniel, as always, got it all. Daniel, as always, such a pleasure having you, man.

Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? You can find me on Twitter at DOB underscore INC. You can listen to the

World's Worst Podcast that I do with my best friend, Soren Bui. Quick question with Soren and Daniel, you can find wherever podcasts are found.

Watch the show that I write for last week tonight with John Oliver, Sundays on HBO or anytime on HBO Max streaming. Yeah. I think that's it. Everyone have a really, it's, it's such a bummer to end on a sincere note, but like be safe out this Jesus ween.

Yeah. Be really careful. Look out for your brothers and sisters yes and you know we we need to acknowledge the the danger that is shocktober like people yeah sometimes it's too much for people yeah so just yeah i'm and i have to admit i have my ignorance of jesus wean i thought is the thing you try and look at when you look under like a big giant crucifix in a catholic church and you try and see up the one o'clock never mind a different totally different thing we called it something else in my high school yeah yeah and daniel is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying yeah there's a tweet it's the dumbest thing in the world. It's someone on Twitter with the name Miz321 at

BlackGinger000 asks, why was official Cisco singing so damn hard about a thong? Question mark, question mark, question mark. And he quote tweeted it. Cisco quote tweeted it and responded, because I wanted to see it. I just love it. That's all he was asking. Yeah. Simple request.

Miles, where can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also, the other show for 20 Day Fiance with Sophie Alexander. We talk 90 Day Fiance. Let's see a tweet. I like I wish i had a witty one but it was just this video i saw that blew my mind that dan toomey d-h-t-o-o-m-e-y uh tweeted this video of the balloon world cup and i don't know if you've seen this hold on i'm gonna share my screen really quick it's mind-blowing it's literally that game

where you try and just keep a inflated balloon up but they have all this furniture in like a room with glass walls and these two competitors just like keep batting it up and trying to get the other person to like let it hit the floor before they can keep it up in the air this is a young person's game this is fucking and i was just like this is amazing and i'm just i love just seeing shit like you know it's the same thing like floor is amazing and i'm just i love just seeing shit like you know it's the same thing like floor is lava but a game show now we're doing to fucking keep the balloon up but with like the highest stakes possible and there's a fucking world cup and you have to hit it's wild is that the yeah yeah yeah it can't touch the ground you can't just spike it

down like you gotta at least keep it in play upward oh he just dug it out this guy's digging another one got it over the hood fantastic he's got it what's he gonna play with this one uh i would have gone the other way maybe the other direction look that's going out so i know that was just very difficult to hear someone just describe a video to you on a podcast but you just have to watch it just go to one of our twitters because it i'm like, why I might get in shape to try and play this. Cause I'll fucking lay it on the line for something like this. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Some tweets I've been enjoying.

Colin Crawford tweeted. If I die while being eaten by a shark, I hope I have the presence of mind to remember. It'd be funny to yell. This sucks. One of the last funny people on on twitter just so consistently good yeah nick at zarzik nick tweeted liam neeson and taken voice just circling back about my daughter both winners from over the weekend uh you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com

where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we think you might enjoy uh miles what song are we sending people to go check uh this is a cover of the uh most deaf song umi says from the album black on both sides but it's a cover by soul supreme and it's really good it's like uh it feels like a retro version like it's yeah i don't's like, it feels like a retro version. Like it's, yeah, I don't know how else to describe it except listen to this cover of it. It's, I love when people do a cover of like a well-known song

and give it like its own whole personality, but you can still hear the original song in it. And then you're like, ah, that's what good art is. So yeah, this is Star Supreme with Umi Says. All right, well well go check that out the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen your favorite shows that is going to do it for us on this tuesday but we are back this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we will

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