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Episode Date: December 13, 2024In episode 1792, Jack and Miles are joined by host of When You're Invisible, Maria Diez, to discuss… I’m Seeing Way Too Many wHaT wAs mAnGiOnE’s mOtIvE? Articles, The Authoritarian ...Playbook Is Being Ran On Us - Step 1: What Is A Human Being? The New Jersey Mystery Drones May Not Be So Mysterious and more! TDZ Best of the Year Episodes Poll! I’m Seeing Way Too Many wHaT wAs mAnGiOnE’s mOtIvE? Articles The Authoritarian Playbook Is Being Ran On Us - Step 1: What Is A Human Being? The New Jersey Mystery Drones May Not Be So Mysterious Clusters of unidentified drones spotted in New York and New Jersey Unidentified drones dot area skies Mysterious New Jersey Drones 'Change Time' on Clocks, Eyewitness Claims Frustration grows as FBI investigates unidentified drones in New Jersey Iranian 'mothership' isn't behind drone sightings over New Jersey, Pentagon says With drones flying over New Jersey, thousands of worried locals are turning to Facebook to solve the mystery Understanding the New Jersey Drone Sightings: Separating Fact from Fiction LISTEN: Nunca by Y La BambaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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He's always riding his bike.
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I've never heard a celebrity so consistently cited always doing the same thing.
Wait, you can ask Arnold on a bike somewhere?
I was here, Arnold riding his mountain bike.
Well, whether I see him, I need to meet him.
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It is Friday, December 13th, 2024.
Happy birthday to my little sister, Caitlin.
Oh, cute. Caitlin. Happy. How my little sister, Kaitlyn. Oh, Kaitlyn.
Happy.
How many years young? How many years young?
She is 42.
Okay.
She is a young 42.
That's young.
That's young. I mean, I'm 40.
I'm like, I'm a baby.
You know what I mean?
So she's a toddler.
You're just a baby.
Yeah. And that makes you, Jack, a tween.
That's right.
That's what I'm aiming's a baby. Yeah. And that makes you Jack, a tween. That's right. That's what I'm aiming for, man.
Yeah.
Oh, December 13th, National Violin Day,
also National Salesperson Day,
National Day of the Horse,
which sounds very fucking intimidating.
National Coco Day.
I mean, when you say it that way.
Well, day of the, it's just, like,
I guess horse day is maybe too casual,
so you gotta be like, it is the day of the horse.
Yeah, yeah.
Give them a little more dignity.
Sounds like it was named by a very aggressive horse.
Yeah.
Oh, it's interesting because it is,
encourages people in the United States
to be mindful of the contribution of horses
to the economy, history, and character.
I'm like, you mean colonization?
Okay.
Well, that's also a part of it.
Uh, and also actually that would be a great excuse by the U S they're like, it
actually wasn't us with the fucking horses.
It was the horses.
Who is taking us in all those places?
It was the horses that were making the calls.
We were just like, all right, I guess we're going over here.
Talk, no talk of manifest destiny. If it weren't for these fucking horses. Okay. that were making the calls. We were just like, all right, I guess we're going over here.
No talk of manifest destiny
if it weren't for these fucking horses.
Okay?
I would have fucking...
There's no way we would have just fucking displaced
all those indigenous people.
It was the fuck, dude, if those horses weren't there,
we would have just fucking chilled.
You know what I mean?
Whatever, it's their fault.
That should be the Trump administration's
attempt at revising history.
Some white people are afraid to do some bad things, but it was actually the horses that
they were riding around on.
Think about what the horses do.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
It's also pick a pathologist day.
I'm like, what does that mean?
Like, hey, pick one.
Pick a pathology.
It sounds like you have the healthcare care in the health care insurers
being like, what do you fucking pick up the thal.
Just already.
Huh?
It's not that one.
No, it's not that one.
It says this day encourages us to make friends with a pathologist or coroner
because we never know what tomorrow holds.
So what does that mean?
Like, don't desecrate my corpse when I'm in the morgue.
What the fuck is that supposed to even apply?
Also, they don't want to be friends with you in case of a disaster.
Like make friends with a pathologist in case you get sick.
Doctors don't like friends who are always hitting them up about being sick.
Get a fucking doctor.
Get a country that's healthcare system works.
Yeah, it's just weird.
No, it's truly about like forensic pathology and corners.
It's specifically about your debt.
About getting murdered.
Yeah.
Okay.
It just says, keep practicing the positive vibe while checking in with that
pathologist pal or coroner to their humor keeps things interesting and we
wouldn't want to eliminate anything funny from our lives.
What the fuck?
All right, whatever.
Shout out hot cocoa.
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It's Miles Gray, aka
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Yo snap on the discord with the beloved awkward teen Hunger Force theme song. Okay, I had to
So you went straight from my brain? My name is Hawk Tua from talk to is
That's you know, that's a bar. She's a drop an album man. Yeah, at least a mixtape with that
Cash me outside bad baby did that and had a whole
I'm not. Cash me outside, Bad Baby did that and had a whole,
you know, that's how she extended her career.
I think that shit got five mics on the source.
Like that was, yeah.
It did, it did.
Hey, Benzino will take your money.
You can buy five mics.
I'm pretty sure I heard people tell me
that Bad Baby was like actually not a bad rapper.
Like I think I heard people be like,
not, she's actually like.
I mean, aside from like the appropriation,
like her delivery wasn't, it didn't feel like totally like.
Oh, I think it was you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because I was just like, oh, you're really, okay, you understand the SoundCloud rapper
sound.
That was for sure.
But staying power, not so sure.
Not so sure.
But anyway, shout out to-
It's Hawk2.
Hawk2's lane has opened.
Yo, yo, snap on the Discord.
Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by once again,
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Award winning.
Welcome back to the show, Maria Diaz!
What's up?
Oh my God, actually, you know what's hilarious
is I actually do have a corner friend.
And I was like, I didn't know.
You got a corner friend?
Really?
Yeah, I do.
And was that a strategic decision?
Cause you never know what tomorrow will bring.
You know, I truly did not realize
it was a strategic decision.
I definitely was friends with her
and then she took a job as a corner
and she was like, and now I have a coroner friend.
How's she doing? Does she have a light sense of humor?
They imply all coroners in forensic pathology?
Apparently, they all definitely do.
JK, she actually does have really rough days.
It was also really funny, but more quirky.
I was like, oh, but it also like, it was so funny.
I think my dare talk kind of came more from her than anywhere else.
Like she was like, don't do drugs.
I have seen what it does to people.
And I was like, you see bodies.
I trust you.
She's like, you want to see?
You want to see?
Yeah, you want to see?
Because I can do that.
And I was like, oh, wow, this is really what I needed when I was a teenager.
You can't see, but Maria just gave a good five year old. I was like, oh, wow, this is really what I needed when I was a teenager.
You can't see, but Maria just gave a good five-year-old's face of like, whoa.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, that's the thing I always hear from people who work in medicine is drugs and motorcycles are two things.
Yeah.
Don't do either of those things.
FYI, those are the things that actually do be taking people out daily.
Constantly.
Yeah.
Just a steady stream of bodies.
I feel like in this same vein, anyone who works in an ICU, I think has also has those
same takes.
Because one of my close friends was in the ICU too, working in the ICU.
And she always, on the weekends when we chill, she's like, unload some shit.
I'm like, yo, please warn me before you. I'm here for you as a friend,
but please just give me a little bit of warning just to
the level of how fucking grim the story is going to be.
But yeah, anyway.
Right.
She has a dark sense of humor for sure though.
I'm like, you get some through it.
Also foreign objects in your rectum just by a sex toy.
That also seems that's more that I see you people, but that does seem. That's more the ICU people.
Honestly.
But that does seem to be a constant problem.
Yeah.
Yeah. That's not what Christmas tree lights are made for.
Maria, we're going to get to know
you a little bit better in a moment.
I mean, maybe there are Christmas tree lights that are made for that,
but I've used it.
Not that I've found.
Not that I've seen and I've been looking.
At least not one that won't quite lightly electrocute.
Yeah.
All right, Maria, we're going to get to
know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell the listeners
a couple of the stories we're talking about.
The media is confused about
what Luigi Mangione's motive might be.
We'll just take a look at some of those stories.
The authoritarian playbook
of the next Trump administration is coming into focus. We'll look take a look at some of those stories. The authoritarian playbook of the next Trump administration
is coming into focus.
So we'll look at a couple of the early tells
that they've been giving us.
We will talk about the New Jersey mystery drones.
You seen this?
You heard about this?
I've definitely had people reach out to me.
He's talking about me last night
when I sent you that Reddit post.
I was like, hey, bro, it's just funny how the Pentagon's like, hey, all right. We got to say something about you did.
I was driving, but yeah, it's that's okay.
You didn't I didn't need you to tell me why you left me are red.
You know, I, um, but yeah, so we're going to look into that because I,
this one doesn't have my uh,
UAP antennae up as much as past uh sightings. Yeah, it only gets like a half of one of those
But there it is
But before we get to any of that marie, we do like to ask our guest
What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are or what you're up to?
What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are or what you're up to?
What I'm up to, I feel like this one is since it's right around the corner, I'm going to Philly for the holidays because my brother just had a new baby. So two like co- thank you. So like coinciding
is like what to do in Philly for the holidays where newborn is allowed. So I'm like-
Wait, what do you mean newborn is allowed?
Or like known as a hostile city towards newborns?
I know they actually are smothered.
Just kidding.
Right.
No, just like, you know how it's like,
she's not quite at her like two month mark
where she's getting all her vaccines.
So like just thinking about like open air things.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, so if anybody has any hot tips about what to do in Philly,
we'll take that.
Where would you take a newborn in Philly?
I don't know. I don't like even though all my family's from Philly,
I have not spent that much time in Philadelphia because I'd never lived there.
Should I call Blake Wexler right now?
Yeah, we might want to call the Wex.
You could go down the shore. The shore is really nice.
There's...
At this time of year?
This time of year.
That's where my parents are going to be spending their holiday.
And I think it, you know, all those shore towns shut down.
Like, you know, they're pretty empty, but they're-
I see.
I'm sure that would be kind of a cool, weird, fun, wintry vibe.
Is this your first time meeting your niece?
I just met her during Thanksgiving,
but that was a brief bit.
So this will be like a cute four days with her hanging out.
Yeah.
It'll be cute. It's fun.
I was trying to think of any Philly holiday movies.
There's definitely some Christmas scenes in Rocky,
or some winter scenes in Rocky. But like some winter scenes in Rocky, but...
Right. I'm thinking of just like taking her down the Rocky Run,
but with the straw hat.
Just be like, we're gonna take you sightseeing.
Only way that I know, Philly.
Combine the Rocky Run with the Battleship Potemkin, you know?
Or the Untouchables baby carriage scene.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right.
Maria, what is something you think is underrated?
Handwritten notes, actually.
I've been recently rediscovering,
I've been doing a clean out,
and I rediscovered a note from my best friend
from high school, and I was just like,
oh my God, it took me back to that specific moment in time
in a way that when I'm cleaning out my phone
I'm not paying attention to of like, okay. Oh that right because it's tangible, right? Yeah. Yeah, exactly
And then you're like drive the heart to make this garbage
Yeah, no, and I don't the answer is there's a little box now like memento
so it's like kind of like a
Lot of time a lot of time was spent on folding this note
Can't just throw that shit away.
And I hear that, yeah.
Yeah.
Do you ever remember, or did it ever happen to you,
where people would fold them into origami shapes too?
Yeah.
I once got a little frog.
I'm like, this was detailed in the delivery,
not just in the written part of it, but the delivery.
I think the first, I think white people origami is the fortune teller.
Oh, you know, yeah, yeah.
I was like the first forum where you see, like, I remember because being Japanese,
like we would do origami like at my house as a kid.
And then I remember seeing kids.
I remember the first time I saw a kid making a fortune.
I'm like, oh, you don't origami.
They're like, what? No, it's a.
We're already. You're so big a number.
OK, you are going to marry Mrs. origami there like what? No, it's a whatty. You're so weird. Miles.
Okay.
You are going to marry Mrs.
Lau, the teacher.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
I used to get notes past me and origami snowballs.
They would just be like wadded up into a ball.
And yeah.
Yeah.
So that's cause they love the frog sounds nice.
The frog sounds nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What was the drama in the note?
Was there any drama or was just kind of like, I love you bestie kind of.
Um, it was mostly like an, I love you bestie.
Uh, like kind of just like, just, you know, revamp of the day, like how
was math class vibes.
Yeah.
Yep.
There are some with drama.
I'm, I remember there were ones with drama, but the one that I found was not trauma
felt. Yeah.
And I'm like, oh, shit, now I got to think about it.
God, I wish I wish I saved some of those because I remember like
there were ones that were so fucking wild that like you would you would pass them
around like it was the newspaper and be like, don't fucking tell them.
I fucking let you read this shit.
And then they're like, can I take it to class?
And I'm like, yes, but don't fucking write it anymore.
I seriously gonna fuck you up.
Yeah, yeah.
Good times before text messaging.
Yeah, I got a handwritten note from an older girl
who was like, I had a crush on,
she was like, call me after school.
I called her and it was nothing. She was, she didn't have anything to say.
I don't know what was, what was happening.
She didn't keep that same energy from the note on the phone call.
So what's up?
Yeah, nothing.
I love that you can still like misinterpret like, or give someone a
voice or reasoning if it's text or handwritten.
It's just like, Ooh, this is going to be interesting and cool.
Yeah.
What can I help you with?
How may I assist?
Not that I guess I just talk to my friends on the phone.
What?
Anyways, I feel like those notes from that time, they always seem like war correspondences.
They're always like, and who can forget the, you know, like they're alluding to
something that we'll never forget as long as we live.
They're like, man, Mr.
Gamble, he's on one again.
You already know.
Anyway, that's the bell.
I'll see you at nutrition.
What's something you think's overrated?
French fries. Overrated French fries at nutrition. What's something you think's overrated? French fries?
Overrated French fries.
Okay.
Wow.
I'm definitely a hash brown person.
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
Okay.
Like I would prefer a hash brown over a French fry.
Oh, that's a, okay, okay.
I just-
Not a potato.
Like potatoes are great,
but like the form of the French fry fry. I feel like you
It's done. It's not doing as much. I also prefer a sweet potato fry. You know what I mean? Like wow something more exciting
Wow
Yeah, well, I'm on the word miles and I are rarely speechless but yeah, are you a?
Will you eat french fries? You don't you don't like so because french fries, you know covers such a broad gamut of potato
Presentations there. Do you like them crispy? Do you like them soft?
No, I like them crispy, but I feel like because you get so many different versions, right? Yeah, it's like
No, yeah, you got to know where you're going to like, know what kind you're gonna get.
Whereas a hash brown, if it's floppy, it sums up.
Yeah, exactly. It's like there's only one way to do it.
I get so many crispy hash browns, though. You know, like at diners, you get like that just soft ass thing. And it's just like, there will be like one part that's got like a little crunch to
it the crisp but then everything else i'm just like i don't know i would have taken a a side of
mcdonald's fries here instead of this hashbrown well that's like if you're gonna do french fries
i feel like mcdonald's fries are the that's your okay yeah so you'll allow you'll allow me oh i'll
allow it okay i'll allow it but if people like, do you want fries for the table?
I'll be like, can I just check to see what else is there?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I get that.
Yeah.
I feel that.
All right.
Let's, Miles and I are fucking stunned.
I'll be like, I'll have my own fries for over here
for the disgusting people.
I can just be like, how are your hash browns?
Maria, Miles prefers soft fries.
Really?
Miles prefers mushy fries.
Yeah.
Whoa.
I like Mac on mashed potato sticks.
That's what I like.
I like them floppy.
He's a sicko.
See how I'm speechless.
I'm like-
Yeah, I know.
Sometimes it's just-
We both had to speak our truths to get the same-
Why wouldn't you just have-
Yeah.
We just realized where antithetical-
You could just do mashed potatoes.
Antithetical potato takes for this one.
But hey, it's a good one.
It's a good one. It's a good one. It's a to speak our truths to get the same. Yeah. We just realized we're antithetical.
You could just do much potatoes.
Antithetical potato takes for this one.
But hey, it is what it is.
And yet we still can move forward and have a civilized conversation.
We'll see.
You know?
We'll see.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll see what we're going to do from here.
I just start taking shots like subliminally.
I'm like, yeah, thank god.
Sound like a crispy ass take to me.
What? Just like you're just being soft. Yeah. No taste whatsoever. No flavor. Let's take a quick
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Miles.
Oh, whoa. What?
Hey, it's me. I just, just wheeled myself out from under your car.
I know. I was just playing pretend driver.
On one of those mechanic racks.
Yeah.
It's just another sliding...
You got a lot of grease on your shirt. How'd you do that?
Yeah. So I was checking to see if you got an underglow kit.
I do not have underglow. No, I do not.
Um, this is a Mazda.
Was that a thing for you in high school? Well, underglow, like you had to have money to afford underglow. Okay.
I would say mostly like the biggest thing at my high school
and just sort of like in the San Fernando Valley in the early 2000s,
like millennial women, girls, you had to have a Roxy sticker,
like a quick silver Roxy sticker on the back of your windshield or it wasn't a car.
Okay, I just bought one of those.
Yeah, get one of those.
Got one of those on eBay.
The other thing for me personally,
I was looking around for were these,
like there's a Japanese rim manufacturer called NKEI,
E-N-K-E-I and like they, for people who are like really
into like JDM accessories, there's like these matte bronze wheels that I just saw
and it took me into a time machine
when I was like playing like Need for Speed
and all these other like auto tuner games.
Yeah, there's a lot.
I wish I had the coolness to put those rims on my car.
Yeah, I wish I did and I do now because look,
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And spoiler alert, babe, we have a spoiler
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And the quick silver Roxy.
Yeah, it looks, based on this photo you're showing me,
yeah, that spoiler looks way too big for a minivan.
Way too big.
No such thing.
No such thing.
Yeah, you really need that downward force
on the back for traction.
I totally get that when you're fishtailing.
I wanted the back wheels to start taking off a little bit
when I'm going down the highway.
I'm just about to take flight in my minivan with underglow.
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Yes.
Yes.
You right.
So, you know, just continuing to follow the story of Luigi Mangione.
And, you know, he's in custody.
He has a lawyer who's like a small town lawyer who according to headlines
got the case of a lifetime.
Do you see that press conference when he was like, Oh yeah, he's like, he's
like, that's the thing, you know, like if you charge someone with a crime, you
need, you need evidence.
And right now they don't got none.
He's like, here, do you want to see what they got?
And he pulled out his hand like this empty hands and he said, go ahead, zoom
in on this, zoom in on this what they got? And he pulled out his hand like this empty hands and he said, go ahead, zoom in on this, zoom in on this.
They got nothing.
And it was sort of the energy was like, I'm not saying he didn't do it, but I'm
saying they don't have proof.
Like was kind of the energy.
So I'm like, Oh, okay.
Didn't you have a note with him that was like, Hey, let me just save y'all a bunch
of time.
Here's why I did that.
Shit.
Here's how I did that.
time. Here's why I did that shit. Here's how I did that shit.
So wild because like right now I've just seen more than a fair share of articles that like have the gist of like, what was his
motive trying to understand why this person did this. And I get
like as a journalist, you need to be objective. And when
talking about like the potential motive here, and while like there
might not be like a smoking gun sentence that just says that
starts with the reason for me killing him is like in his
manifesto, it's pretty clear what motivated him to do this,
just based on what he has written and you know, his other
comments surrounding, like his, you know, just observations
around society and corporate greed.
But I'm just like, wait, what?
Why is everyone sort of scratching their heads at this?
Because there was some way to know.
Yeah, my motivation was clearly radicalized by his own physical pain
and experiences with the health care system based on what I've been reading
along with like his very publicly
the public statements about his disdain for CEOs profiting off of like people's
basic needs.
But like one of the biggest articles from the last week was about how he played
the video game among us.
See, that's what I was going to guess.
I was going to say it's got to be among us.
It's a game about being a killer and who can figure out if you're a killer.
Plain sight, bro. Hiding in plain sight. People be among us. It's a game about being a killer and who can figure out if you're a killer. Hiding in plain sight, bro.
Hiding in plain sight.
You know how many people play Among Us?
Like, that's like a serious take.
And then I saw a piece in Business Insider.
Kind of.
They have like things hiding their appearance.
Yeah, exactly.
Like he did.
And some people are sus, as you say, when playing Among Us.
But like in Business Insider, I saw this this morning,
they were acting like, the headline was,
Luigi Mangione's online life reveals so much about
without answering one key question.
That was the headline.
And it goes on.
This is the one key question,
something that my doctor doesn't want to know about,
doesn't want me to know about.
Yeah, this one key question.
That your doctor doesn't want you to know.
This line was in the article, quote,
trying to make sense of this online trail doesn't seem to get us any closer
to a potential motivation for why he went from someone who was frustrated
with the health care system, like nearly all of us are, to being accused
of 3D printing a gun and shooting someone to death.
I see, like, a lot of articles spent on spent on like which political side he might have been on.
And they're like, we just can't tell man.
This guy's like hard to nail down.
Like what, like what his actual political, like, is he a Democrat or a Republican?
What if there's, there are some people who don't fit into those boxes.
I don't know.
And then there are other ones that basically say like, he had all kinds of stuff he
was into like on the internet, but it's hard to know why he did what he
did. And I'm not like, again, I understand the restraint to not speculate here, but
there's like seldom any time spent in these articles on the state of healthcare,
healthcare, when that is one of the most consistent things publicly written about.
So yeah, I'm just gonna assume it's the corporate capture of healthcare when that is one of the most consistent things he's publicly written about. Yeah.
So I'm just going to assume it's
the corporate capture of our newsrooms,
is why it's not turning
into basically a flashpoint in our society.
The fact that they in the motive thing,
we're like, and believe me,
we're all frustrated to the point
of losing our mind with our healthcare system.
But why would he go this extra step that we're all felt ourselves
compelled to at least consider?
And it's, yeah, I feel like, yeah, they just don't want to say the thing
that everybody kind of already knows it is because it's wild though, too,
because Senator Elizabeth Warren even said this quote,
the visceral response from people across this country who feel cheated, ripped off and threatened
by the vile practices of their insurance companies should be a warning to everywhere in the everyone
in the health care system. Violence is never the answer, but people can only be pushed so far.
Damn Elizabeth. Was that a quote from his manifesto or?
No, she goes on, this is a warning that if you push people hard enough, they lose faith
in the ability of their government to make change, lose faith in the ability of the people
who are providing the healthcare to make change and start to take matters into their own hands
in ways that will ultimately be a threat to everyone.
Yeah.
I mean, it's definitely French revolution ish.
Yeah.
And that's not like even had to walk that back to like, yeah, she did.
She's like, obviously violence is not the answer.
That's that's not, that's not what I'm saying, but like, come on y'all.
Do you not, are we not understanding how this happened for real?
Like completely?
I mean, like, it's not the answer.
Did you guys see that girl who, like, slept with 100 people?
Anyway, move it on.
I'll be over here. Yeah.
Holy shit. It's just very I mean, like, at the very least,
it's clear that maybe the people that are writing these stories
just do not want to acknowledge this year sheer desperation
that people experience as a result of living in the paid to live version
of the United States that we're currently in.
And I think that's probably the, like, they're probably trying to keep the, like, the flood wall from, like, the dam from breaking to fully be all, like, an all out call for everyone to be like, we have to completely change our healthcare system.
Like, this is, like, this is why we need to change things.
Yeah. Like this is why we need to change things. It's more just like, it's sort of getting into the minutiae
of like, what books was he about to read?
And what clues does that give us?
It's like, I don't know, I think everyone else,
just look at the reaction from people.
They are immediately connecting the dots here.
Oh yeah.
It's very bizarre.
And also the way he's being like viewed and portrayed too.
Like all of New York, we like, a lot of us were just like,
and what, are we helping?
No. All of New York consensus was like,
heck no, he can go free, we don't care.
They were doing a bunch of like,
if you see anything, let us know.
It just tells you the state of things when people are like,
no, because that feels in line with like how desperate I'm feeling and
what I feel from out the system.
Yeah. And it's if you see something, don't say shit. You don't say shit. Okay. Yeah.
Did you see the Burger King thing too?
No, no, no. Are they are they shit posting about this?
The we don't snitch. Like we don't rat anybody out.
Burger King said we don't, no they did not.
I mean, at least there's a tweet going around.
So there's like, it's a TikTok happening where it's like,
just like the picture of Burger King being like,
we don't snitch.
So, but it's like very funny.
That would feel like Wendy's would do that.
Wendy's Twitter was wild, I remember for a while.
Like Wendy's would be like, yeah, Wendy already knows, bro.
Wendy ain't got no stitches.
You know why?
Don't even gotta tell you. But yeah, I think the other part is like, yeah, Wendy already knows, bro. Wendy ain't got no stitches. You know why?
Don't even got to tell you.
But yeah, I think the other part is like, it's really wild to just get these like
things like it's part of it is like not really laying out what the problems are
in our health care system, which should be like the next step of like the analysis
of what's happening here.
But then meanwhile, you have people being admonished for being like,
this person got killed.
And I get that that is terrible.
Like the murder part is fucking terrible.
But it rings hollow when other people, when they are reduced to a fucking
nebulous number on a spreadsheet and they're like, I need life saving medical care.
I need life changing medical care.
And it's like, nah, sorry.
Yeah.
Move on with your shit.
Sorry, bro.
That actually it's my job to tell you no.
And that that would be irresponsible to pay for your medical care because the
market doesn't think you should get medical care.
Where, where are the pieces admonishing those people?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
For, for the treatment coming this way to all the normal working people in the
United States.
So it's just like, it's, there's so many things that like this story is bringing up,
like a how fucking desperate people feel, how they have a complete lack of belief
and how the politicians are able to change anything that like,
like there's all like how we have guns ready.
There's so many things that like this, this whole story encapsulates,
but it's really odd to just see a lot of people be like, like how we have guns ready. There's so many things that like this whole story encapsulates,
but it's really odd to just see a lot of people be like,
ah, just scratching our heads.
What the heck would make someone do something like this?
Right.
Yeah.
You're right.
The reaction is alarming.
Like how into this everybody is, is alarming.
And the point of an alarm is to alert you that something is wrong.
Yes.
And that you need to pay fucking attention.
But you can't do that if you're like, if only there was some way to know what this is all about.
It's like, what the fuck are you talking about?
There's even like in the other, they even talk in other articles about how some of his note in his notebook,
he's like he opted for a gun instead of a bomb to not hurt innocent people because he wanted to go after a CEO. Like it's, there's just so, like even in their reporting, they're, they're
dropping nuggets that you're like, Oh, that's interesting.
And now I'm starting to see more articles where they're like, police are
starting to really narrow in on the motive now based on what they've all seen.
And you're like, well, keep us posted on that.
When there's a break in the case, let us know.
Right.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
All right. Should we talk about what we're learning from the Trump administration?
The kind of where their early priorities of authoritarian fascism are going to take them and us?
Right. I mean, two bits of news in this last week seem to be an indicator of how, you know, MAGA is trying to wear us down in terms of turning a blind eye to their forthcoming atrocities.
Right now, the two groups getting a lot of attention from Republicans are obviously
undocumented people and unhoused people. So in order for their plans to go smoothly,
they need as many Americans as possible to lose sight of the fact that these are human beings with
rights that deserve to live as happily as anyone else that is here.
So over the weekend in that Meet the Press interview on NBC, Trump was saying that essentially he's going to put an end to birthright citizenship and change the
Constitution through executive order in order to make his plan executive order in order to make his plans for mass deportation like legally frictionless. Well, last time I checked, changing the constitution requires like two thirds
ratification from both houses or the states would have to call for a convention.
That's not happening.
So what then?
Senator Mike Lee from Utah is floating this argument that I've also seen in the
federal list that I think reveals like sort of rhetorically what they're trying to do.
The first sentence, this is just the first sentence of the 14th Amendment states, all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. this to mean that Congress has the power to define who a citizen is.
And that is patently false from all the legal opinions I've read.
They're like, this is the most bad faith
read of an amendment like I've ever seen.
There was no one was thinking that was something up to Congress to decide.
We were amending our Constitution because
of the fucking civil war and that was just fought over slavery.
And who gets rights as a citizen.
Then that's where we're just saying, yo, you're born here, you're naturalized here, you're an American.
End of story. So now Lee is trying to make it seem as if this is ambiguous when it isn't.
And this tactic seems to be working because now you see this take being parroted all over
the internet and conservative media about being like, well, I don't know. I mean, like what was the intent of the 14th amendment?
And maybe we do really need to re-examine this.
And so I guess if they can't actually change the constitution,
the best way is to just now get people to think that our definition of a citizen
is nebulous and thus open to interpretation to, again, open the floodgates of fuckers.
Which is also so funny that it's like, let's pick and choose which amendment is up for
like interpretation and debate of like, and definition.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All that stuff they added after the civil war for some reason, like they're not a
big fan of, I don't get it.
No, what is, I don't even just like as a person with basic understanding of
logic, I don't understand what is I don't even just like as a person with basic understanding of logic
I don't understand what is it like the or is that what they're taking?
like the
or naturalize the United a lot of people are taking the
Jurisdiction thereof and like the jurisdiction there of exactly that was the thing they're pointing to that line
But then other people point out it's like well
Then if they aren't,
then people that are born here aren't subject to the laws of the United States.
Like, what are you just saying?
Yeah, they're just allowed to start clapping people?
It's just about chipping away at our understandings,
our understanding of citizenship in the country
that has been the same for over 100 years now.
So, like, this is just, again, it's just, it's like, this is,
I'm saying the first steps to begin to see this kind of stuff.
Like, well, we don't actually know, like we need to maybe actually define
what a citizen is, even though it's already defined in the constitution.
That is sort of the entry point to then be like, oh, well, then if these
people aren't citizens, then they need to be deported.
And we can't really argue with that because we've all decided right what
a citizen is. And that doesn't meet that definition. And again, like the goal to make people think
mass deportations is palatable was can also be seen in when Trump's lawyer, Alina Habba,
she was on Fox, and she was essentially saying like deportations won't
be bad since they're not going to separate families.
They'll, they'll, they'll deport entire families together.
See, like a fun family trip.
No, yeah, like that's the spin.
They're like, oh my God, we're not going to separate families.
Are you kidding me?
We're not monsters.
We'll just everyone goes.
Right.
And they don't have to be separated.
Uproot them from their entire life, too, right?
It's really fucking grim and then you have Elon Musk who like again also pointing out Trump's paternal grandparents were immigrants from Germany
So your his own daddy
Again, whatever benefited from that. His mother is also an immigrant
But it doesn't fucking matter and if you do this like if if you change this definition, what does that mean for almost a gigantic
chunk of the United States where people who are not here were on the Mayflower?
What are we saying here?
There are only 28 full citizens of the United States.
These are their names.
Everybody else, get the fuck out.
Everyone get out. Uh-oh.
Talk about a system overhaul.
Unless you're a billionaire.
Unless you're a billionaire, in which case, give me a billion dollars and there will be no regulations to do it.
But it is, like the way you frame that, it is true.
It feels like just they introduce these small bits of like bullshit to our diet to like get our collective immune system to bullshit, like acclimated to that specific argument.
And then it's just, we're like, oh yeah, we've heard that before.
And so it just goes through.
Yeah, because the way the listeners, the viewers of these takes are taking it,
they go, that's right, it's because all these anchor babies, we do need to change it
because this creates a loophole for all this other stuff.
And that's how they get the sort of thought process going without actually understanding
like what is the Constitution? They're just like, right, that I don't know what that means.
That guy says it doesn't mean what it means. Therefore, get the other people out of here.
Okay, I've figured it out. Then, Elon's stupid ass tweet about the unhoused. So he quote tweeted some fucking loser who was like making the case that
essentially like helping unhoused people is ultimately futile.
And Elon's tweet was on the quote,
he was quote, in most cases,
the word homeless is a lie.
It's usually a propaganda word for
violent drug addicts with severe mental illness.
So we should just like fund a lot of like mental health resources and treatment resources.
That's amazing that we got him to.
No, no, no, no, no, that's not what I meant.
It's a lie and it's a propaganda word.
So what I'm trying to imply that these people need no support because they are
unworthy due to their mental illness and addiction.
What do they think you do with them?
You put them, they just want to kill them.
Well, one version is like, no, people are talking about like solutions that are cheaper
than prison for people who quote, refuse to get better.
You know what I mean?
And completely, completely missing the part of like a lack of agency you
experience when you're in the midst of these kinds of crises, like completely.
And again, the flattening of the unhoused population into some group of hopeless
people who only deserve imprisonment is a dehumanizing tactic.
So this is another part again, where it's just like, I don't know, I'm just saying
that I'm just saying, I'm just saying to sort of let the larger goal take hold
that we are, we have groups of non-human people who need no empathy.
So yeah, like it's, I guess it just meant they're all meant to dull our senses.
And like, basically, you know, keep us from being able
to support ideas that aren't just about discarding people, you know, because that's truly, I
feel like that's, that's the ethos for, for, for really, for, for a long time in America,
but especially now, like they're just going to go all in on it without even giving a fuck.
Yeah.
What if we just like take them to the place where like all our garbage goes and like our
pollution goes, like I'm assuming that's out of outer space or something.
And then it like just never comes back and hurts anybody.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just do that.
Yeah.
Or the, you know, the encampments that the Trump is talking camps that we're talking
about, like, and it's all fucking-
Oh camp, I loved camp.
That sounds so nice.
Oh yeah.
This is a little bit of a different run
where like militia members, I don't know,
we might outsource some shit to militia members.
On paper we're saying we're not, but you know.
Militia like gets a bad rap, but it's like military,
but it like has a soft sound.
So it's like militia.
We call it militea.
Militea.
Yeah, it sounds so much better.
Yeah, it's my militant aunt.
Yeah, I'm like, it sounds like we're getting a certain demographic to be interested.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
So anyway, I think these are, this is like, they're always going to be trying to, again,
divide American people and truly push this rhetoric even more
and more and more that people are wholly undeserving of any kind of support, anything, because
their entire ethos is based on enriching the wealthy and that's at the expense of vulnerable
people and just anyone who's not already a fucking wealthy billionaire.
Yep.
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Yeah.
Hey, I know that.
Yeah.
So, uh, but yeah, it just seems like it's getting, it's picking up steam.
The locals are going full word the worlds.
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There's just a lot of sightings going around
of massive unidentified drones flying around the state. So it's always, they keep repeating like
the size of these drones are unprecedented. People don't know how big things in the sky are.
Like, nobody is good at judging that. Nobody's good at gauging how big something in the sky is.
Like that, it's actually one of the reasons that I think aliens are possible,
that they could be here and we just don't know it because like the sky is massive
and the only things that you see in the sky, like when you see a 747 up close,
it's fucking huge.
It's the size of like a city block.
Nah, it's not that big to me.
Oh, wow. Well, it takes a lot.
I've seen bigger 747s than the 747 that we're talking about.
Yeah.
My favorite detail of these stories, like this just feels like pure urban legend,
but it does also feel like it could be in
a Spielberg movie.
One family was following a drone in their car, trying to chase it down, and said that
as the drone hovered above them, their car's clock changed time and then only returned
to normal time as they drove off.
That's the dumbest fucking lie to tell.
I love that.
That's very X-Files.
Oh, dude.
Did it change time to just like, to the following minute?
Was it daylight savings weekend?
Yeah, I mean, it was around like 1 a.m., I feel like, on that Saturday night.
And then it like went ahead, it went back.
I don't know, man.
I think it was the fucking mystery drones. But okay, I mean, that it like went ahead, went back. I don't know, man. I think it was the.
The fucking mystery drones, but okay.
I mean, that, that feels like an X files ish detail.
Never to waste a good panic.
One GOP lawmaker claims that the drones were launched from a nearby Iranian
mothership just off the East coast, which are panic, which, uh, like somebody
actually asked about in a Pentagon briefing.
So the Pentagon was like, are you aware of,
or journalists were like, are you aware of this?
They're like, yeah, we're aware of it.
It's not ours.
We don't think it's a foreign power.
They were like, well, this guy said it's Iranian.
The spokesperson for the Pentagon was just like,
no, there is not an Iranian
mothership launching drones.
They're like, yo, we would be, we would all get fired if an Iranian mothership was off the
East coast of the United States.
Do you have any idea how badly we want that to be true?
Any idea what that would do for our budgets?
Like we would be so fucking psyched if they did that.
Was that Lindsey Graham who brought that up?
It's like, Senator Graham, is that you?
Nope, nope, I'm just saying, was it an Iranian mothership?
Gotta go, gotta go, gotta go.
Why that guy just throw a smoke bomb on the ground.
And then drive away in one of those little children's Barbie cars, you know?
Smoke bomb.
So that person is on the transportation and infrastructure committee, uh, said he's
heard from high sources that Iran is controlling the mysterious objects, which I, I hear from
high, uh, a high source every day on this show.
Yeah.
I was going to say I'm right here, bro.
Thank you for taking me seriously.
You know what I mean?
I've got some crazy, uh, evidence about how the color purple I see might not be the color Oh, yeah. I was going to say I'm right here, bro. Thank you for taking me seriously. You know what I mean?
I've got some crazy evidence about how the color purple I see
might not be the same color purple you see,
if you think about it.
Exactly, yeah.
But I don't know.
Like this just, have you guys seen a drone display?
Like a bunch of drones working together?
Like I saw one at a ski like mountain.
Like we were in big bear for New Year's Eve and they were like, Hey, instead of
doing fireworks this year, we did a drone thing.
Double burn the forest down.
Drones?
Yeah.
And they did drones and the drones were cool as shit.
And I was like, I can't believe one, you know, I can't believe a
fucking ski mountain is able to afford whatever this is, but like, I don't, I just think
that like drones are very impressive now and like they can do more than maybe
the average person in New Jersey realizes at this point.
Cause they can't even then there's like massive numbers of them.
They might, it must be a coordinated thing between many different people.
And it's like, I don't think that's right.
It could be like three.
Yeah, it could also be like three dipshits with drones, like flying them a bunch every night to fuck with people and to keep the momentum going.
Oh, yeah.
I've seen other ones where they're like, look at this picture from underneath and someone just overlaid it with like a commercial jet
And they're like this is the exact same spread of lights on the jet
Yeah, then this fucking quote-unquote alien drone you're talking about. Oh, I don't know. I looked away bigger
Couldn't have been a jet. So I think there's like a lot of people's confirmation bias is set to I think
You know, yes, they're like,
the truth is fucking out there, and it's in New Jersey.
Mm-hmm.
As people, as somebody who wants to believe, I do have to be discerning about, you know,
how we evaluate these various things that could be mysterious. And I have no doubt, like,
there's definitely, like, people having weird experiences. And I think when you're primed by the local news to be like, there's drones out
there, and you're just constantly paying attention to the sky in a way that you
weren't before, you're gonna see cool shit. I bet you're right that especially
now that there's a local news, like a flap of local news stories about it,
like, remember that the crop circles that like everybody was like, what the
fuck is going on with crop circles was like a few guys who were just doing it
for like to fuck with people.
I would love it if it's the same guys.
And we back.
It's that dude who wore the like three-toed dinosaur shoes.
He used to walk on the shore to throw people off.
You're like, yo, what the fuck left these footprints?
It's like, it's a guy with fucking shoes to fuck with you.
Yeah.
But it's just so easy for people to fuck with people.
And also like, yeah, so they, they actually interviewed a drone, like
the most reliable sources, uh, Of course, one of the experts at dronelife.com.
And he was like, I don't know.
It looks like that one's an airplane.
That one's a cell phone tower.
That one is just a regular commercial drone likely being operated legally.
Like anybody who's familiar with like what drones can do
is just like, yeah, man, like these are actually just
either the large ones are like actual aircraft,
which are again, much bigger than people realize usually
when they get close to the ground or they're drones,
the kind of drones that we're familiar with, you know?
I don't know, man. I live in the flight path of Newark airport and I see a lot of drones every night, man.
It's got nothing to do with living in a flight path.
I also I also like that people like this person's like, that looks like a cell tower.
Is that I wonder if you are supposed to like, look at this light.
It just floating fixed in the same spot all night.
It doesn't move at all.
It's just sitting there looking at us.
Blinking.
There's also a problem with the motive of like, so all the people who are like,
it's either an alien or it's Iran and they're spying on us because they're being sighted
near Trump's golf course where all the high security shit is going down.
Like Trump doesn't just tell fucking everyone anything they want to know
if he thinks it's going to make him sound cool.
But one of the problems with that is, first of all,
drones aren't great at spying in the dark.
And second of all, were you to try to spy on something at nighttime,
you probably wouldn't have lights on the drone.
That seems to be like, I'm here.
That was the thing that that put me off because I'm like, aliens are fucking with like red
and green lights on their spaceship.
Right.
Like a like a fucking police chopper or some shit.
And I'm like, yeah.
All right.
If these are aliens, bro, like they're there.
Their swag is fucking bottom of the barrel.
Like, I'm sorry, this shit looks real norm core to me.
We do for whatever reason,
I always need to have a little red and green light
on our alien technology.
Like it's a smoke detector that's running out of batteries.
Sorry guys, that's just where we're at technologically
over here.
Maria, what's your feeling on the drones or the aliens and shit?
Like, are you, have you seen this story?
I've seen like a little bit of it.
I feel like I'm of the camp of like, it's probably just drones and the whole thing of like,
yeah, people are going to notice more when there's already stories.
I mean, I would like to believe that aliens exist and I would like that to be
Possibility, you know what? I think our standards are just good. Hi. Look, we all want to believe and look
There's some low-hanging fruit guys. We can just go right there right now
You know, is it a drone? Is it an angel? Who knows? But like I'm also kind of like how do they know that like mmm?
It's totally fine
They're just like we're just trying to blend in with your habitat and just be red and green and now we're just like no But you're not blending
Thank you a Christmas light display and you guys freaked the fuck out. Sorry did the colors and every y'all don't seem chill at all
Y'all were throwing rocks at our Christmas parade. Yeah, we were trying to be like, hello humans, we come and see.
We're trying to get to your level. We're like, oh shit, it's red and green lifetime. Here's
some red and green lights.
Red, white and green. Wait a second. What are the colors of the Italian flag?
I'm talking Italy, man. I'm talking Mangione. I'm talking about a fucking sneak attack coming from the East Coast.
Where do a lot of Italian Americans live?
New Jersey.
They're sending messages to each other.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I feel like it's just the rest you platform.
The time is nigh.
For Luigi.
Yes.
By the way, the...
That's what the drones are doing above us.
By the way, the Pentagon denial being like that.
No, there's not a mothership is being called idiotic on Fox News.
Flat denial of this story.
Idiotic.
I mean, look, you did it with WMDs and yellow cake, but don't kick a war off with
some shit like these drones are from Iran and we need to fucking it's time to go to
the fucking mattresses.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, if you look at this one picture, it kind of looks like.
Right.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Well, the other thing, though, too, is like the FBI was like, we honestly don't know what's
going on.
Like, dude, can you just find the people who are using the drones and put an end to this
rather than being like, I don't know, we don't know how to figure this out.
Because I feel that's also feeding this shit too.
Oh, yeah
We're not really sure what's going on. But people take my dude. They're not even sure what's going on
Yeah, so I feel like they just haven't looked into it very much and they're like, yeah
We're never gonna look at that and right. Yeah, but or it's yeah an epic failure. They're like, oh shit, bro I don that. And people are like, but. Or it's, yeah, an epic failure.
They're like, oh shit, bro.
I think that I don't know if those are drones, bro.
Right.
Fuck.
Yeah.
I wonder if it's like, this is, this sounds dumb, but like, does the FBI have
interns and stuff, like, is it like the intern team that's on this case?
And they're like, we're still figuring it out.
This is, this is our case study.
Yeah.
I have to get better at this.
It would be very easy for them to be like, Hey, we have drones.
Everybody can use, you could go outside right now, order these drones on Amazon.
You know, like it would just be so simple to make a point.
Yeah.
And then, but.
Oh my God, that's exactly it.
That's the one.
Who's the one you just fucking bought?
You look, you're holding the controller.'s the one who has the one you just fucking bought.
You look you're holding the controller. What the fuck?
Where did this come from?
Fuck.
It made me do with the aliens.
Well, God, I really wanted it.
I really wanted something to come up.
S.S.U.V. size drones.
Jack, imagine.
God damn.
Imagine.
Do you see the one where they like had drone thing that had an inflatable person on it
and it looked like they were flying in a jet pack with a jet pack?
That was fun.
That's so fun.
You can really fool people with these drills.
Heck yeah.
Yeah.
People do that all the time.
There was like that, I remember one movie was doing that for their promo.
Remember that movie that was kind of like a home video style shot thing
where those teenagers get superpowers.
Chronicle Chronicle. Yeah.
Remember that? And like for part of the viral marketing, they were
they were attaching like human like figures on drones that were just like
wow, cruising around in the air.
Look, there's motherfuckers flying man.
And you're like, it's for the movie Chronicle. You're freaking out over here, man.
Yeah, like, I don't know.
When I was down the shore over the summer, like, we were on the boards, me and my boys,
and there was somebody fucking around with a drone.
And it is like, it's captivating and like, it's cooling your, you know, everybody's like,
whoa, there's a drone over there.
And like, it's doing, doing stuff and who's doing, you know, you like, want to
find who's doing it and stuff.
So I just think we're probably at a point where we're not used to the fact that
these are pretty accessible technology, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then you add the dark and dark just makes everything mysterious.
And they're like, I can't see the person controlling it.
What?
Right.
I found the guy and he was like here and like brought the drone over and took a
picture of my kids with it and then like sent it to me on my mobile phone.
And that guy, your mobile phone, you're talking like an alien Jack.
On my mobile.
Yeah.
On my mobile phone, my mobile phone.
There is nothing to see here.
Okay. I think it's you Jack. You're in New Jersey. Like bringing everybody. They transferred. There is nothing to see here. Transfer to the imagery. Yeah.
Okay, all right.
I think it's you, Jack.
You're in New Jersey, like bringing everybody.
Yeah, that is true.
As part of your alien family.
Yeah, that's what was in New Jersey.
And maybe this is what tipped it.
Maybe what got everybody.
Two big stories last couple weeks
intersect with Jack's movements.
Yeah, I'm just saying.
It's all happening to me, not to anybody else.
The...
Just centering yourself in every new story.
Do you guys ever read like Weird New Jersey and like some of the stuff?
Like I found out about it through Chris Gafford, but like there's like, oh, I think he used
to write for this website, Weird New Jersey, but that just collects like New Jersey urban
legends and it, like New Jersey has a long proud history of like really detailed and intriguing urban legends.
So like, this is also know who you're dealing with.
They have a good imagination.
And I'm pretty sure the War of the Worlds thing was New Jersey.
Like the freakout that happened was in New Jersey.
So, oh, when they did the radio play?
Yeah. The radio play was like one of the freak outs was, uh, fear spread across New
Jersey.
That was the story.
Uh, in a phenomenal, in a phenomenon reminiscent of the war, the world's radio
broadcast that once spread fear across New Jersey.
Okay.
This is a whole new Jersey of freaking each other out.
Just be like, whoa, man, but could you imagine?
It's our thing, man, the Garden State, you know how we do.
Yeah.
Well, Maria, what a pleasure having you back on the Daily Zeitgeist.
Thank you for having me.
Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff?
Yeah.
So when your Invisible is available available anywhere you get your podcasts.
And then we also have an Instagram account for it.
So it's at When You're Invisible podcast.
And then to follow me, I do have a personal page, which is M-A-R-I-F-E-R.
So the nickname that I have for my first two names,
Maria Fernanda, and then underscore my last name,
D-I-E-Z, underscore B, as in boy.
But those are the best ways to keep in touch and figure out what's happening.
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
I've actually started watching the series,
like Water for Chocolate.
Oh, how is that?
Which it's good.
It's visually really beautiful.
Like I'm super into like being Mexican.
Like all of these stories were things
that I knew about growing up and stuff.
So getting to see that in a hundred years of solitude
that just came out and they're the same vein.
And so like bringing a lot of magical realism images into TV film is really cool to see.
How was 100 years of solitude?
It's good so far.
I literally have only gotten through the first episode.
Because that feels like such a massive undertaking, Karina.
Yeah.
That's why I was like, in eight episodes, y'all?
So that's what I'm kind of excited to see, but also like, oh, let's why I was like in eight episodes, y'all. So that's what I'm like kind of excited to see,
but also like, oh, let's see what ends up happening.
Right.
But for me, yeah, I'm excited.
It's a change of pace from like what's out often or what I'm watching.
But I'm also watching the Dune series.
The Dune series.
I have no appetite for it, but you could change my mind. Is it good?
It's good. I don't know much.
I never read Dune, so I'm getting
introduced to the world through the series.
But you watched the movies? Did you watch the films?
I did watch the films.
I thought they were visually really beautiful.
Yeah, Timoth.
Me too. I thought the films were very beautiful.
I have no patience for lore about the Dune world.
But when that guy shoots anything,
I'm like, yeah, that looks fucking cool as hell.
Beautiful. Yeah.
Exactly. Yeah.
Yeah. I like the little floaty fights at the beginning of the second one.
That was my favorite part. Miles.
Yeah. Is there work of media you've been enjoying and where can people find you if I get out of order?
That's fine. That's fine. I have this response. It's muscle memory. Okay
Hmm. I don't know what's mad, you know, let's talk about that later. Jack disappoint
That's okay. Well, you were always against me. So, you know
You're always against me. So, you know, one thing I didn't know. You're always against me. You're always against me. Um, so miles of gray at miles of gray everywhere.
Find Jack and I on the basketball podcast miles and jack got mad.
Boosties find me on the 90 day fiance podcast called 420 day
fiance. Put it together. Don't be like business insider.
Understand what I'm getting at with that show title.
420 Day Fiance, please.
A tweet I like is from past guest Melissa Lozada Oliva
at Hello Melissa tweeted,
this is a picture of Luigi Mangione.
It said back injury that altered his life.
Unibrow, close enough.
Welcome back, Frida Kahlo.
And I was like, yo, fucking amazing, amazing, amazing,
amazing connection. And yeah, that's it.
Also, I've been watching, I'm trying to get through
Love is Blind, because I also like watching people fall
through a wall and be completely out of sorts.
Have you seen the ultimatum?
I just started the ultimatum too.
You know, I just started, yeah, yeah.
You know, the Netflix trash, I eat that shit up.
I won't spoil it.
It is concerning because it's wild how in the ultimatum, how immediately when they talk
about like, they're like, so what do you think about the experience?
I think I want to bang that one guy that was sitting across from me.
And you're like, yo, okay, let's have a little bit of, let's act like we want to be married
at the end of this rather than like,
don't that she is hot as, I'm sorry.
No, no, not this one.
No, the other.
She's, she's 12 years younger than you.
I don't know.
I'm just saying that's what it is.
That's what I don't know.
Something clicked.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I know.
Just something clicked.
Yeah.
Something clicked.
I love it.
All right.
Couple of tweets. I've been enjoying.
Devin Costa tweeted, catching Bin Laden at McDonald's with a plane in his backpack, which
I thought was funny.
But then somebody else kind of summed up the experience.
I think a lot of people are having.
John Jan Hopi tweeted, there's something real fishy about this event I've consumed
entirely through wild speculation,
contradictory tweets and secondhand information.
Yeah, that's about does it.
Then I also enjoyed this tweet from Ryan Stoned Cowboy.
When I mentioned Arby's,
you're likely already picturing a specific location, maybe one down
the street or that you went to growing up.
Maybe it's not even there anymore.
This is your mind Arby's.
And with training, you can go to this Arby's at any time and from any place.
Holy shit.
I'm thinking about going to my mind Arby's.
Amen.
You can find me on bluesky at Jack Obey the number one. Holy shit, I'm thinking about the one my chat's worth. Going to my mind, Arby's. Amen.
You can find me on bluesky at jackob, the number one.
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We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy.
Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy?
Yes.
So, there's an artist that I've recommended a few times, Ila Bamba, that's the sort of artist name
of Lusilena Mendoza, and this track is called Nunca.
And the album that she made that this track is off of
is really cool.
Like during the pandemic, she just kind of had a, you know,
like an artistic moment of trying to find inspiration,
move to Mexico, and you know, started putting out this really great work.
But anyway, this track is fantastic.
Great vibes, great singing.
Nunca by Illa Bamba.
All right.
Well, we will link off to that in the footnotes.
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