The Daily Zeitgeist - What We Mean When We Say TOO OLD, Good News for Dry Cities 02.23.24

Episode Date: February 23, 2024

In episode 1630, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian behind the comedy special Spiritually Filthy, Mort Burke, to discuss… Maybe We Need To Reframe The BIDEN IS OLD Conversation, Los Angeles Just ...Proved How Spongy a City Can Be and more! Joe Biden Is Picking Cars Over the Planet Los Angeles Just Proved How Spongy A City Can Be Mark Zuckerberg Awkwardly Hanging With Volkanovski’s Corner LISTEN: Numb by Andy StottSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese
Starting point is 00:00:52 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti and I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career.
Starting point is 00:01:10 That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 326, Episode 5. The finale. The grand finale of Der Daily Zeitgeist! Season 326. It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast. Have you guys heard about these? You've seen these? Where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.
Starting point is 00:01:54 And it is Friday, February 23rd, 2024. Two, two, three, two, four. And also it's National Skip the Straw Day, which in the beginning I was like, oh, what fucking company is telling us to do this? Big Turtle? It was middle school students in Whitehall, Michigan, who first started it.
Starting point is 00:02:15 But again, they ingested the, they were indoctrinated with the propaganda as if it's our fault that we're polluting the things with plastics, not the industry. Anyway, it's also National Tile Day. So shout out to Tiles. Oh, God. You like a nice handmade tile?
Starting point is 00:02:28 National Dog Biscuit Day and National Banana Bread Day. Really boring shit today. Sorry. I wish there was something cooler to say. No. Tiles and banana bread. Sometimes it's just National Banana Bread Day and that's all you can do. I have a question.
Starting point is 00:02:41 It's just to honor banana bread. When was the first time you tried a dog biscuit? Because that's what every kid does at some point. We didn't have dogs growing up. My little sister was scared of dogs, so we didn't. When was the first time you ate pet food then? When I had a pet as an adult.
Starting point is 00:02:57 The first time I had a pet. Yeah. It was the second I got my hands on some dog food. And I was like, God, I love you so much and I'm feeding you this. I'm going to eat it too out of solidarity. And that didn't go well. Dog food tastes bad.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Yeah. To humans? Maybe to dogs. He seemed to like our food better as well. Exactly. How about you? How early did you get in did you uh like when i was four four i remember and like it wasn't because we didn't i didn't have a dog at the time we only
Starting point is 00:03:31 had a cat and like at that for whatever reason a dog biscuit seemed more interesting to me than like wet cat food and i remember my mom took me to like her friend's house and i fucking humiliated her because i was begging the person there who had a dog for a dog treat. Yeah. And she was like, oh, he did all those tricks, too. Dude, I had a fucking fit. I was like, I want a dog treat. Shut the fuck up, man.
Starting point is 00:03:57 What the fuck is going on with you? I'm like, I need this shit. Tasted like shit. And she was like, yeah, you happy now? Now I'm humiliated. And you have a mouthful of grain or whatever the shit was but yeah anyway four years old i remember there you go all right well my name is jack o'brien aka sometimes miles fills my space sometimes the ads get in the way sometimes my hands feel out of place you'll never hear me far from gray
Starting point is 00:04:29 i can taste aspartame do and i were meant to be jack and miles on T-D-Z. Oh, my God. I can taste aspartame. That is courtesy of Mr. Do It Less on the Discord. Fucking Jonathan in the building from Korn. Korn. I didn't fuck with Korn growing up, so I was really listening to that song for the first time today. Yeah. It kind of goes. When he's doing the weird scatting yeah whatever that is almost as good as uh kim cattrall's scatting almost as good
Starting point is 00:05:14 you know we can but you can tell that it's not like he's directly referencing kim cattrall's scatting but you can tell that it exists in a world where he has heard where people he knows have heard but yeah referencing some of my superpowers being able to differentiate diet soda from regular and taste aspartame that's easy some of my weaknesses not knowing what to do with my hands which big moment for people who don't know what to do with their hands with Mark Zuckerberg this weekend. I don't know if you guys saw the video of him in the octagon. He like went in to the octagon with like a UFC fighter that he trains with. And he, there's just a moment of just pure, I guess people are like passing things around. Like the guy's corner people are like passing things around in front of him.
Starting point is 00:06:05 And he's like trying to reach out to like, get like help them maybe. And it's just every moment of my teens and early twenties, like it just concentrated down into this one televised experience. Oh my God. This is so fucking awkward. This is the one where he's wearing a track suit. Yeah. He badly bopping along to the music oh no dude he was like he's doing that thing where like you're clearly someone is handing something to someone else
Starting point is 00:06:34 and you try and act as if you were like part of that chain of events where you're like oh yeah okay that touch his pocket what i do with it oh yeah those slippers touches the the yeah so we're watching it now put his hand forward put his hand back he touches the pocket so this is the thing that we've all done people who don't know what to do with their hands is you touch your pockets frequently but you don't like go fully committed into the pocket yeah because then you think about you're like is this a fucking time to have my hands in my pockets? No, I'm fucking outside the unclean. I think it's weird. That's why he's so obsessed with meta.
Starting point is 00:07:07 He just wants to create a virtual reality character that knows exactly how to be real smooth. No legs, no hands. Don't eat them. Yeah, yeah. Don't eat them. Can't put my hands in my pockets. They're going to think I'm jerking off. They know I want to jerk off right now.
Starting point is 00:07:23 This MMA fight. It is the most related Like the most I've ever related to Mark Zuckerberg It was Yeah it's very uncomfortable We'll link off to it in the footnotes I am thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray
Starting point is 00:07:36 Hey it's Mr. Miles Gray A.K.A Oh shit I lost it Oh here it is A.K.A Today I didn't even have to use my acorn. I gotta say, it was a good day. Obviously, in reference to that horrible fucking example of why we don't need police,
Starting point is 00:07:56 where an acorn fell on a squad car and the guy thought he was being shot at and then indiscriminately fired a bunch of rounds into his fucking squad car where a man was handcuffed. Luckily, that guy was not injured. Holy shit. Dude, it's the wildest thing. He's in the car. A fucking acorn hits the road.
Starting point is 00:08:12 He's like, shot fired. And he just starts fucking shooting up the squad car with this dude inside who had no fucking gun. Jesus Christ. And then afterwards, there's a moment where they're breaking down what happened. He's like, we believe it's an acorn. He's like a moment where they're like breaking down what happened he's like we believe it's an acorn he's like acorn no and they're like look you can see it hit the roof and like from your own body cam that's what you're responding to like uh like how clearly traumatized these psychos are that like the slightest noise is like all right fire immediately yeah also note, you crushed the
Starting point is 00:08:45 good day instrumental. Like I would, I would actually listen to you do that. Oh, thank you. Well, Miles was in his
Starting point is 00:08:51 college acapella group and just doing a little Pius all Tupac acapella. Yeah. No, acapella.
Starting point is 00:09:01 We were Beatles. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, got it. You guys all jerked off together like the Beatles.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Like the greats do. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny comedian and improviser whose comedy special, spiritually filthy,
Starting point is 00:09:18 is both hilarious and sexually charged. Go check it out. It's Mort. Yeah, good to be here, dudes. Thanks for having me, you guys. Oh, man, and sexually charged. Go check it out. It's Mort Burr! Yeah, good to be here, dudes. Thanks for having me, you guys. Oh, man, good to have you. Good to have you.
Starting point is 00:09:33 How's that water? How's that water? Tastes so good. Tastes so good. I love cold ice water myself. Yeah, it's got to have ice, you know? Yeah, this is the Middle Ages. I got to have a couple cubes in there just to let you know just to anchor yourself country
Starting point is 00:09:47 before the guy comes down off the mountain with the glacier yeah i hear you yeah well more it's wonderful to have you back uh where are you coming to us from again los angeles los angeles yeah beautiful culver city okay so that that it was a good day instrumental spoke especially to you because you are one with the environment of west coast hip-hop yeah that's right yeah i am you can tell by looking at me i am oh yeah it's coming out of your pores amazing well we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today.
Starting point is 00:10:27 We're going to just take a look at the Biden is old conversation. These guys are old conversation. We'll tell some good news about how Los Angeles is making the city more spongy. Yeah. Which I was not aware that was the goal, it is and uh it's well we'll talk about why that's helpful we're spongeworthy we're spongeworthy uh all of that plenty more but first mort we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history man i will tell you i'm such a nerd for skateboarding that almost my whole search history generally is
Starting point is 00:11:06 filled with new skateboard information I don't I think that's maybe the most unrelatable thing an adult man can say but that's just the reality of the situation I grew up in LA in the 90s and 2000s what do you mean like you're looking at new just skaters new deck is the search legitimately just skateboard information is that what you typed into your google refresh i should tell you i am ai i'm sorry that's yeah i'm always looking for i always google something slash information no there's a new primitive video out i was watching it's good couple of new i just use skate video parts usually so there's a new primitive video just came out that i was watching. What's like, okay, so I remember I used to watch a bunch of toy machine videos,
Starting point is 00:11:52 Birdhouse Girl, all that in the 90s. I feel like it peaked with Yeah Right in 2003. That Spike Jonze one. Is there any, like, for someone who stopped watching skate videos then, what should I watch now? man such a huge well let's see great question i will actually say the last primitive video that came out it's not bad it's three new amps we don't have a spike jones today i don't think right there's nobody like his shit's so uh creative and fun weekend the company called, they put out some pretty good sketch-based stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:26 And then they just came out with the last Static video, probably, which is this really good series by this dude, Josh Stewart. But he's been making videos since the 90s. You might have seen Static 3 or something. It had a good Bobby Pulio part, good Nate Broussard
Starting point is 00:12:42 part. So he just put out probably the last of that so that's a good if you're a 90s dude check out the newest static video i bet you'll like it okay yeah and these are videos of people like doing sick shit on skateboards this sickest shit dude owen wilson fucking killing it bro or was it i don't know jack i remember that back in the day yeah yeah yeah i think i mean yeah right was like the video that like i would make like women i was dating watch like yo this is next level don't know why you kept getting dumped at chipotle yeah next thing you know hey you want to meet up for lunch at chipotle yeah uh i gotta go oh but but was it the part with the invisible deck that shit was pretty
Starting point is 00:13:23 cool right no yeah yeah look and honestly in your defense that's not a bad way to say like hey are Oh, but was it the part with the invisible deck? That shit was pretty cool, right? Yeah, yeah. Look, and honestly, in your defense, that's not a bad way to say, like, hey, are you down? Do you like cool shit or no? I mean, it's a tasteful video. You know, don't make them watch the whole thing, but show them something fun and be like, are we cool here? Right. And then I started showing them CKY videos because there technically was skating there. They're like, what?
Starting point is 00:13:40 No, get out of here. Look, look, we had some swings and misses. And they're like, what? No, get out of here. Look, look, we had some swings and misses. But I remember being shown that like as a tape that like my friend had like gotten from somebody. The like Spike Jonze one. And then like a few years later when Jackass came out being like, oh, they made a show out of this. Oh, like the early, early ones.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Yeah, yeah. The real early ones. Yeah, right. It was like the early early ones yeah yeah the real early ones yeah right was like the peak yeah that was the fun though of that whole situation was getting shit on a tape felt so underground and sick yeah you felt like you were getting a little treasure you know it's cool exactly yeah because that was like the those that was bit torrent before bit torrent was like yeah i got a fucking ripped vhs copy of this thing that someone else paid for. Yeah, sick. I still ask teenagers to this day if they've got any videotapes.
Starting point is 00:14:29 What I love about videotapes, they had gears. Think about how old that is. They utilized gears. That feels like barely industrialized. Look like shit, those things. Loud and rattly and broke.
Starting point is 00:14:44 They look like they're made out of really look like yeah broke oh it looked like they're like made out of like a disassembled fax machine or something you know like just like not not technologically advanced in any way yeah like the v like the vcr decks were so like varied in performance like some like if you got the cheap one it's like you needed a rewinder or else it would take like 28 minutes to rewind a race car rewinder you ever had the ferrari whose dad was that whose dad was that into videotapes it was like yeah we're gonna need to we're gonna need a couple of those actually this shit makes me realize did you ever get yelled at for not rewinding a tape i remember my mom
Starting point is 00:15:23 would be like you're like you didn't rewind the tape we got like a bhs movie we rented a blockbuster and i watched it before she's like now i gotta rewind it and wait six minutes i worked at blockbuster and that was a there was i think there was a frustrating thing where we had to rewind them or whatever this is like sir could you please we had to ask people which felt awful it was like felt like you're you know talking to a 10 year old but it was an adult man you know yeah i mean what be kind please rewind wasn't that like the fucking mantra back then yeah that's right corporate like charity they're just like come on please we really could our bottom line could really use this so that we have enough money to
Starting point is 00:16:02 tell netflix to go fuck themselves in 10 years more what is something you think is overrated i'm going whimsical on this one or actually no i'm gonna go whimsical with underrated can i go underrated first yeah why don't you uh what is something you think is underrated dreams and i'm just talking about your standard rem middle of the night fighting a giant snake flying over your childhood uh neighborhood for some reason dreams you got great dreams because here's it is psychotic that we don't talk about this that every single night we go like everybody's like people are like hey how you doing you're like i'm doing pretty good like pretty good last night like you have a second life in the middle of the night that is adherent to neither physics nor time you know what i mean this you are on the right podcast for this because we we just like go off on 20 minute tangents about how fucking mind-blowing it is that we have yeah
Starting point is 00:17:01 and then you wake up and you're like oh i'm so well rested after i just got done like fighting owen wilson or whatever crazy yeah just like an experimental work of like animation and like special effect just like an experimental film that your brain spontaneously created like out of themes that are happening in your life right now yeah like just amazing works of art that are being projected on the inside of your brain every night and then you wake up and you're like what was that again yeah you can't even really remember right this like yeah customized like michelle gaudry and charlie kaufman and spike just came in there and take together a little thematic play for you.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Yeah. Yeah. I had one last night that it was me and my homebrew who I haven't thought about since middle school. We got invited to a really fancy party. We're like, we got invited there? Yeah. And the whole dream was figuring out...
Starting point is 00:17:59 We went to a store and it was a pretty woman montage where we were trying to figure out what we were going to wear. And all the clothes fucking sucked. Wait, your dreams incorporate 80s movie editing? It was more like the setting. It wasn't like... It wasn't like Smash Coat where I'm sitting there with a glass of champagne nodding or shaking my head. Do you ever, in the middle of your dream, there's a record scratch and you turn to yourself and you're like,
Starting point is 00:18:23 I bet you're wondering how I got here but that was one yeah yeah that i remember just waking up like what the fuck was that about it's just like i guess just the thing of like are we gonna look balling enough for this party that in our minds was like the i guess met gala kind of thing anyway yeah that's sick but it wasn't like to your point it wasn't like fighting a dragon they're just like you gotta mine have like been really normal or like not fully you know on the totally whimsical side of things you got invited to a party you need an outfit those are hilarious too those ones are like i was at the dmv for like three hours last night just like a lot of standing in line or grocery shopping or something i lost a. I lost a rental car last night in my dream. I was on some manner of island vacation.
Starting point is 00:19:10 And because I have had a lifetime of, we'll call it problem substance use. And I haven't done that stuff in years. But still, my dreams are an opportunity for me to stress out about it. You fucking woke up this morning. You don't know where the rental car is. years but still like my dreams are an opportunity for me to stress out about it like you you fucking woke up this morning you don't know where the rental car is and you gotta catch a flight so it's way to get your shit together man i woke up like emailing my sister being like hey you're still on the island you need to find this white rental car do you have any idea where i left it well those i have the i've yeah i haven't drank
Starting point is 00:19:45 in a while but i'll have every once in a while i'll have like a relapse dream or whatever yeah like all of a sudden find yourself drunk like what happened man oh no i was doing so good yeah but it's never the fun part it's always just yeah i crashed my chrysler pacifica yeah uh what is something you think is overrated all right i hate to do this one but uh soup here's why it's overrated okay i'm feeling overrated right now i was just getting over an illness i was sick for like a week first of all we treat soup like it's medicine and it's not you know what i mean and i i think so partially i think i'm bringing in too high expectations for i think if i somehow subconsciously i believe if if I eat enough soup, I'm going to be not sick anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:28 That's not the case, right? Yeah, right. It has nothing to do with it. And then also, the other thing about soup, all right, as a member of the manosphere, you know, you can go watch my YouTube videos and why it's women's fault that you hate yourself. Dude, when you were on Fresh and Fit, that was a sick episode when you're on there i couldn't believe it yeah they get it they they get it that it's everyone else's fault that i'm a wreck um yeah but i i got a man-sized hunger so i always have to add something soup is never there's never enough sustenance like i've been putting rice in soup to make it feel like yeah
Starting point is 00:21:02 it's more of a meal and that it's good but But then I'm like, this isn't even soup anymore. This is basically, I just made chili. You know what I mean? So like, why did I even start out with soup? If I have to add like bread and a bunch of other stuff to make it a full meal, you know what I'm saying? You put just a big loaf of bread in the pot. You're like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Like a half a loaf of sourdough just dunked in there. Yeah. I mean, legumes, that's the way I i make make my soups because i'm the same way like i there's not a single like combo item at a fast food place like i can't just get a combo thing i'm like yeah that's all the food i mean like i always have to add another sandwich or some nuggies or some other shit to feel full and like so that like that hunger insatiable hunger like when i make a soup i just dump fucking beans and fucking lentils and shit into it and that's usually how i'm eating
Starting point is 00:21:50 soup as like the main course of my meal i am eating way too many croutons in that shit yeah and if there's not croutons available i feel very disappointed yeah you yeah you need a carb. You got to or inject those nasty little carbs. I do love soup, but to your initial point about it not being medicine, RFK Jr., as we covered, we are at a low point for vaccination rates. And one of RFK Jr.'s statements on the measles vaccine was that the measles vaccine is no more effective than chicken soup. So yeah, I think he might be. I think you're right. There was a whole thing in the 90s, chicken soup for the soul. We really treat it like it's medicine. And I don't think that's
Starting point is 00:22:39 quite fair. I think it's a very healthy food, especially if it's like made by boiling an entire chicken's body like you know there's right old recipes that really work well do wonders for you but not as good as modern medicine i'm sure it's actually it's it's probably from the middle ages and i'm sure then it was a minute like they couldn't believe oh my god this is hot yeah it feels like it was like viral it was the first hot meal, I think. That's why I was so scared. You guys fucking heard about soup? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Holy shit. First people just burned throats because it's like boiling, and they're like, give me some of that. What the fuck is it? It's hot if you're expecting it to be cold. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's funny that you bring the i just saw this
Starting point is 00:23:26 headline in the washington post it said four major non-profits that rose to prominence during the coronavirus pandemic by capitalizing on the spread of medical misinformation collectively gained more than 118 million dollars between 2020 and 2022 so the anti-vax shit was pretty lucrative the last couple years where are they spending that money like what are they doing probably like campaigns across our public school systems or something yeah it's probably like just bullshit obviously like political spending and then like any of these groups i i doubt they're really in it for the actual message like i'm sure people are just absconding with the money and being like yeah this is my this is my boat that i i go on it does seem more and more like the the worse it is for people the
Starting point is 00:24:10 better it is for capitalism kind of yeah yeah turns out for uh at least a handful of capitalists yeah right all right uh well let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about the news. We'll be right back. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week,
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Starting point is 00:25:28 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church,
Starting point is 00:25:54 an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day,
Starting point is 00:26:54 and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:27:11 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back. And so some people are starting to say that Joe Biden is old, I guess.
Starting point is 00:27:46 No. And I don't know. Name him. Shame him. I mean, Trump, I guess, like said something like that. No, this is the main point of discussion around the presidential race. If you had told me that these were going to be the two candidates four years ago i would have told you that the main point of conversation would be this you know that they are both old yeah mathematically speaking but the way the media is covering it seems to be like they they want to
Starting point is 00:28:21 catch them like physically stumbling they want to see them stumble or like, it looks like Biden pooped his pants. It's some high school burn book ass shit. Right. It seems to be the way that they're covering this as opposed to what are the actual consequences of him- What are we saying? Having been raised in a different time with different challenges.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Yeah, I think it's like it's like this narrow framing of people's discontent around the options for president. They basically has allowed especially Joe Biden's allies to respond with pretty like elementary defenses, which is like he's actually very sharp. He is so detail oriented. Yeah, he has his head in the game. And like, while his age and I think cognition are definitely valid concerns for voters, I think it misses the larger point that many voters who are not senior citizens are actually trying to get at. It's that he is old and ideologically out of touch to deal with the challenges of our modern world. And I
Starting point is 00:29:26 think when we just focus on the old part, all it has to be is like, dude, this dude, this dude is like six pushups and eats a breakfast burrito. What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah. And we're like, what we really need is like, when it comes to things like climate change, you know, like, you know, many people have praised the inflation reduction act for its ambitious goals. Although many people would also argue that it was sort of the bare minimum given like what's at stake with our earth. And Trump had won. I think we would have actually seen what the bare minimum was. But yeah, the bare minimum would have been like just fucking just everyone's rolling.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Accelerating in the opposite direction. Every school bus would be like legally obliged to always be worse. It turns out. Yeah. Mad Max vehicles or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Doubling down on making Morton Joe like part of his cabinet. But like like right.
Starting point is 00:30:17 So right now, like the Biden administration, they just walked back their own emissions goals from the IRA in order to placate the big three automakers as GM, Ford, Stellantis. And was the issue that it was too ambitious? No, because these companies were just complaining about the speed at which they would have to modernize and not sell currently. Like if you look at what these companies offer, they're like gigantic, overpriced, inefficient vehicles. Then if you're talking like, is it about emissions? Is it about what's doing what is best for the environment? Do we need to sort of rethink what kind of a car is best suited for this? And I think other people point at the polling in Michigan right now.
Starting point is 00:30:56 It's looking pretty shit for Biden. So they figure, look, let's help out. Let's create some warm, fuzzy feelings in Michigan. Maybe that will help us get across the line in November. And so you're like kind of left looking like, so does Biden want to like modernize and improve the auto industry? Or does he actually want to curb greenhouse gas emissions? Because I think most people who look at the climate crisis are like, we have to curb the it's the fucking emissions we need to fucking get a handle on and how we look at these things. And if it's the latter, if it's about emissions, then shouldn't we be talking more about like fucking better mass transit and things like bike lanes? But like, again, we can do both, man. We can do both. But the thinking.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I used to have lunch with Strom Thurmond, my good friend. Lee Iacocca. Yeah, exactly. I'm the great compromiser, man. But like he again, he just wants to maintain the status quo of like ignoring the degradation of the planet. And like, that's fine. But like sort of give us these warm, fuzzy feelings like, well, you know, maybe I get these car manufacturers to do this thing that sort of misses the point. And when you roll back the emissions, that sends a bad message
Starting point is 00:32:05 to the younger people who will have to inherit this earth. And like another example, right, the genocide that's happening in Gaza, where people are facing starvation, Biden ignores the polling that shows that a significant majority of his own voters want an immediate ceasefire. He would rather, again, just preserve the old ways, blindly arm, like blindly arming, like a homicidal regime and keep arms manufacturers happy and groups like APAC from putting money against him. And meanwhile, this is causing him to hemorrhage support with like younger voters or the people that pretty, that power political campaigns. Like you need young people to get behind your political campaign to have any kind of ground game or success there. And, and the reason why a lot of people are like put off by
Starting point is 00:32:49 this again, it's because we see that like, these are, this is the old way of doing things. And we see that what the status quo has given us inequality, continued oppression of marginalized people and a planet that is telling us every single day that we need to do something different fast. And the mainstream media just talks around these issues by just hammering home like this guy is old as shit talking point. And we're not like actually giving voice to the real issues that sort of underpin this observation. So if the conversation is he is not equipped to contend with the existential threats and understand that America in 2024 is actually quite diverse, then the defenses are going to have to actually talk about policy. So right now it's just about, like I said, can he do a jump rope? Can he do jump rope
Starting point is 00:33:35 really good? And does he, does he know, does he remember who was in the monkeys? And if you want people to see someone as not being old at the very least you can show that with policy that shows you know what younger people than you are concerned with and don't just be like like well the other guy's fucking old too and he's a fascist and that's what i think is driving a lot of things like we have real fucking problems so like while a lot of people are talking about the age thing i think the discussion misses that what that entails. It's that we are looking at all these like we're in an omni crisis and we need real sort of substantive solutions that feel markedly different than what's going on. And, you know, right now,
Starting point is 00:34:18 the administration just announced like one point two billion in student death relief will be forgiven for around one hundred fifty thousand people. That is objectively a good thing. But those are the kinds of things that this administration can do that doesn't really require risking the kind of political cachet that like getting tough with oil and gas industries or the military industrial complex would. complex would. And I don't know, like when I think about it too, like we're just looking at what the perspective is of this president or being, or telling like people who are concerned with like earth death or where our tax dollars are going or what we're enabling with our tax dollars. It just feels like he's like, look, it's, it's, it'll be okay. It'll be okay. You guys are just overblowing it. But like, I was recently like with some older family members and they all said some version, like when we were talking about like,, God, what's going on in this country?
Starting point is 00:35:07 There's all some version of, well, I'm glad that I'm at the tail end of my life because I can't imagine how tough times are going to be for you and your kids. You know what I mean? You know, and I feel Biden embodies this perspective. Like he is legislating as if he won't have to deal with the ramifications of his own policies and expects those of us that will that it's not that bad. It's not that bad. And being really dismissive. It is the thing that we see repeatedly with generations as they age out. And they're always despairing for the following generation. They're always like, your problems are intractable
Starting point is 00:35:46 because we did our best and we're amazing so this is fucked like there's no way you're going to come up with something the reality of the situation is the younger people are generally you know smarter and have more flexible minds and have like better perspective to attack these problems and new ways that the elderly aren't able to think about and they're also not able to even like conceive that those possibilities are are possible you know and so i it's just such a uniquely bad time for us to be stuck in this eddy of forward progress where it's in the same way that all the money is being trapped by the people who already have all the money. All the power is being trapped by all the people who have all the power up until the time that they're dead and can no longer continue to acquire power it's just right a system that is you know design like they there were very specific things in place like this was a known thing that like when you have this system you have to guard against a gerontocracy like that's a very real problem and
Starting point is 00:37:06 yeah slowly they just managed to kind of edit all that stuff out of the narrative and out of history so the people are now just like hey wait a second how these people get so old right yeah yeah and i and i think it's also endemic of like the society generally moving left as it does right it's like the more we learn and the more we become educated you know what i mean environmentalism was not really a thing like 150 years ago and now it's like a very serious concern right so it's like so when the younger generation is just naturally more left it's kind of horrifying that like what when we see what we consider what the government considers to be left is actually pretty fucking central like you're saying being sort of owned by big oil in the military industrial complex it's like
Starting point is 00:37:49 somewhat horrifying yeah i mean it was it was you know environmentalism was a thing with like you know native civilizations and stuff they they had a grasp on it but it's yeah it certainly shifted very far right to a place of just like resource extraction they didn't have to contend like western colonial earth exploitation yeah there's just they just call that being alive yeah like being naturally imbalanced in balance with stuff yeah yeah it's just yeah it's wild because like david axelrod you know who's a political strategist you know responsible for getting obama into office and you know a lot strategist, you know, responsible for getting Obama into office. And, you know, a lot of people like, you know, what, what, what David Axelrod, like, what can, what can Joe Biden do, man, to help sort of defend against these attacks about his age or whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And he was just sort of like, yeah, just merely juxtapose his positions with Trump's. Sure. And it's like, you're, but that's not, you're not getting at the anxiety that people feel. It's like, I, I feel increasingly unsafe in a world that's like prioritizing like militarism or earth degradation. And I have a fucking one year old. And I'm even even in my mind, what the fuck does it look like for you? Like, shit. I mean, I plan on being alive a little bit longer. So I'm probably we're probably going to see some shit. But then what of like our kids and things like that.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And I think Biden sort of has like this attitude of sort of like, I remember when I first took like an astronomy class and you learn that the earth is a star and then stars die and explode. And everyone's like, yeah, when the earth, when the sun, no,
Starting point is 00:39:19 no, when the sun or when the sun, sorry, the sun is a star, like saying like, you know, when the sun dies, it will fucking destroy it. It will destroy the earth, too, when that shit happens.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And I'm like, oh my god, when's the fucking sun going to die? It's like fucking a billion years. I'm like, oh, fuck it then. Why the fuck do I care about that? That's kind of the attitude that a lot of politicians have with a lot of these like huge things we're like i don't know we can just keep kicking this can down the road and just sound like the warning bells about what will happen if we don't codify certain laws or if you don't get a handle on curbing like emissions or inequality without actually doing anything because to them it's
Starting point is 00:39:59 like so abstract like the fallout and they're insulated so i don't know i just think like for all the talk of like it's not i think it again i think just for people always saying it's the age it's the age it's the age it just allows to skirt over like the real issues what about the age yeah is it just that he can't do push-ups well and you think he's gonna fall like there's a new york times something like some new york times alert that popped up for me today that was like, what if Trump and Biden die? And that again, if you're covering it from the perspective of like a horse race, it is certainly notable that one of the two horses that can win could die during the course of the race. But yeah, it's mainly that is the way that the like back in 2004, when I was working at ABC News, they were having like this real internal crisis of consciousness about like, we are only covering this like it's a horse race. We never talk about policy. And but they like continued to do that shit like yeah they were like and there's no way out because that is the only way we really
Starting point is 00:41:05 know how to talk about this in a way that makes sense as tv you know yeah yeah like kind of the lowest common denominator of like look at his face isn't it old although i do love this idea if there was no like age cap on like professional sports like that was you were watching a baseball game and also there was a there was a bunch of people who were so old they might pass away during the game. That would add a real level of intrigue. Pitcher gets hit with a ball right off the bat. They're like, oh no. But again, Miles, I do have to push back here a little bit.
Starting point is 00:41:39 You are only paying attention to the things that he's actually doing as president you're not paying attention to the things that people say he is doing behind the scenes behind the scenes he is sharp and he is so mad and he thinks that yahoo's an asshole so he called Netanyahu an a-hole. An a-hole. Shh. Like, I don't. I don't. He's cool. Dude, he's cool in private, dude. He just, he fucking, he likes Trippie Redd. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:11 And he listens to all kinds. He was fucking with the last couple Playboy Cardi albums. He's actually really cool. But again, I think it's the whole point is to keep it, keep that debate there. Because again, most of the mainstream media isn't really equipped to grapple with the policy failures of just america for the last 50 years in general anyway so like because anytime it is brought up you're gonna have a bunch of people who are like establishment politicians or something like it's this is fine the police are great it's okay this these things these are just noisy activists and that's kind of like the message you get. But yeah, I think like as I experienced more spirited discussions around people of many
Starting point is 00:42:49 generations talking about the presidential and they're like, people got to get over the fact that he's old. It's like, it's not, it's not just that. It's not, I'm not just saying the fact that he's old, get him out of here. It's that this dude has no idea what life is going to look like for us. And he doesn't give a shit. And that's fucking frightening. And none of these, and none of the the many of the people in office do not and without a real sea change of
Starting point is 00:43:09 that kind of thinking it things look very dire and that's i think what merely people are asking for is like can you at least wink at the fact that you know what things could look like you know like if we just keep if keep maintaining this course and just again you know behind the scenes on b Biden expert here. OK, he tried winking yesterday and his eyes started to bleed. So we're going to actually hold on to that one. His eyelashes got caught and got tangled in each other. He couldn't open the eye anymore.
Starting point is 00:43:36 They function effectively as spider webs at this point. So he can't close his eyes or else you know they're like no that's just not the thing just help help me understand about what we're gonna do to make things better don't just be like oh this guy sucks too and that's why i think there's increasingly yeah just increasing apathy and frustration around this because like at the even when people feel like can we can we talk about these issues like nah nah we can talk about how shitty Trump is, though. Well, dude, and there's a whole... We are foundationally, and this is not unique, what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:44:13 but just foundationally addicted to oil and automobiles. You know what I mean? Thinking of what is required to actually upend this entire foundational situation here with our dependency on just cars alone is like it's policy it's got to be policy change and structural consciousness change like people have to start to understand that there's going to have to be sacrifices we have the tools to do it like we could work from home we have the internet we can get so much done right you know what i mean if so we can like we just need to but it's hard when the you know automotive industry is such like an aspect of the backbone of the american economy in certain states you know right
Starting point is 00:44:57 yeah or even just thinking about like how our justice system works or foreign policy it's always like this patriarchal like well someone's got to get fucking hit yep you know and that extends to the militarism that extends to why we see no real improvement in like how our justice system works it's like yeah because it requires us to really again to abandon these fucking archaic ideas to move into something different and yeah and i think i'm sure obviously not everyone is a high value or high information voter i was getting into high value mail because you were talking about the manosphere powerful yeah yeah yeah but high information voters like but people do sort of in in their bones feel like something has to fucking change on some level and it's like when when we aren't
Starting point is 00:45:43 able to really get those ideas out or have those debates yeah we're sort of doomed to just stay in this cycle and then you know shaking our fists at the sky yeah it's yeah it's one of the most consistent things you see across history is like and it gets written out because in the same way that, you know, the people who are speculating on like the stock market, they don't a year from now air they're like being completely wrong. You know, like that shit just like gets memory hold. One of the consistent tropes throughout history is the people who are like aging out, just having severe pessimism and cynicism about the future and you know they're just too old to understand it too old to like approach the problem with fresh eyes and it's we are at like a major crossroads for the species like one of the
Starting point is 00:46:41 one of the most difficult crossroads of our species in generations and we really like this is the worst possible time to have people who are just like cynical and pessimistic about our ability to solve these problems and to think about these problems yeah completely because human beings are actually incredibly capable like we're actually capable of doing incredible things if we're allowed to make those decisions for ourselves you know the thing that makes me feel like sometimes like positive about the future is just like thinking right before world war ii as you know there's like this massive dust cloud devouring like the farmland in the middle of the country.
Starting point is 00:47:27 There's the Great Depression. Hitler is rising. Like all of these horrible things are happening. And, you know, the the world is going to like come together and like get through it and like build the future for in a lot of ways like the highway system all these different like dams and all these various things but it wasn't through listening to the very old people who were you know just like fuck right you had to you had to get some new blood in there so yeah all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about some good news. We'll be right back. of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films
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Starting point is 00:51:04 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back. We're back. And so Los Angeles, we've actually talked about this problem before, that L.A., during these massive rainstorms that they've suddenly been getting, like in the past, L.A. has been built to basically turn into a massive water park where like just, you know, big chunks of the city turn into water slides and just like jet that shit out of here as fast as possible into the ocean so that they don't experience flooding essentially there has been work being done in los angeles also in pittsburgh shout out pittsburgh in recent years to transform it into what's being described as a sponge city and not merely described that way for like spongebob meme ability purposes but because it's it involves making it a more permeable city
Starting point is 00:52:16 just generally yeah we were saying i think the last the storms at the beginning of last year like we're like oh my god there's so much water came down and like, we're able to capture like a part of it. But I think a lot of ecologists, environmental people were saying like, we just need a way to be able to absorb it because it's too much concrete everywhere and it doesn't get into the ground and to be able to like sort of fill the aquifers and things like that. So yeah, like there's been a lot of work. I didn't realize just how, I mean, again, cause I'm not, I don't have my eye on this all the time. But like this story is really interesting to hear that a lot of these programs that have been implemented to sort of create, what do they call them, like spreading zones or something? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Like spreading grounds. Yeah. So the water is able to like very gradually be absorbed back into the ground. I'm like, oh, oh great great so so we're doing this and what we got almost like a half years worth of rainfall in three days recently yeah uh and they were able to capture a really good a real good chunk of that i mean like how many something in the billions uh was it 8.6 billion gallons of storm water was been it what they were able to capture, which is enough for
Starting point is 00:53:25 enough water for 106,000 households in a year. But yeah, like it's, it's nice to see that we're being able to like green median strips, you know what I mean? And things like that, that go from like, what about dirt instead of concrete things that can absorb things. I have like a, a swale in my front yard because someone who i know who's like really conscious about this stuff is like dude it's easy man just just give give a place for the water to fucking go back into the ground yeah and you you see like this happening more and more and more so again i think you're doing that made us do that in our front yard okay yeah it's all swale it yeah and i mean but it's like one of these things where a lot of people yeah, it's all swale it. Yeah. And I mean,
Starting point is 00:54:05 but it's like one of these things where a lot of people are like, it's not always that it takes a gigantic project to be able to sort of turn things around.
Starting point is 00:54:12 It's like, this can be something I feel like this Berkeley professor said, it's like, it can be, it's like, it's like we're
Starting point is 00:54:17 solving it with a million band-aids basically in these small ways that help contribute to a larger or larger beneficial outcome for people because i
Starting point is 00:54:25 think it's mainly the swale in my front yard but yeah i guess i think they're doing some other stuff but i'm gonna take most of the credit here the news is attributing most of it to you jack yeah yeah my name isn't mentioned but it's like heavily implied they got kind of a funny picture of you yeah wait i i did just get this paperless post invite from you for like an event at your house. It was called Job Swale Done. And I wasn't sure. That's just to celebrate the fact that you've been able to capture 8 billion gallons of stormwater through your swale. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Well, it's. Job Swale Done. Yeah. I am going to be wearing a flight suit in front of a mission accomplished banner. And I hope that that doesn't send the wrong message. But I will say, as a member of the manosphere, the two things, the spreading grounds was what I called my last apartment. Am I right, bros? Am I right, bros?
Starting point is 00:55:20 Hell yeah, more. That's right, brother. Those people are nightmares. Get you a spreading ground and it is funny that looks at you like this and get you a spreading ground spreading zone and also it is amazing that we're like uh how about dirt how about the thing that is automatically provided for us by the universe? It's so funny. Truly, truly. And like, yeah, other places using
Starting point is 00:55:50 like more, I think Pittsburgh, to your point, Jack, using like more porous concrete bricks that allow water to seep through. I think those are just sponges, right? They're just described as sponges. They just replaced their sidewalk with sponges. Could you imagine what that looks like during a rainstorm? It was like twisting their ankles yeah like every fifth not
Starting point is 00:56:08 as filthy as the sponges in my sink oh god oh man i was they say you're supposed to like get rid of those every month or something yeah i got some antiques hanging around i got some you know like that are like whoo have you all right and i And I was recently drank out of a coffee cup that clearly had been like a thousand year old sponge had cleaned it. You know, like when you just know you're like, oh, that's sponge. That's all sponge. Yes. You know, I had that at a restaurant one time where I was like, yeah, it tastes like old water glasses. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Yeah. Like old sponge. That's good. That's a good that's a good PSA for people. That's why you got to change the sponges out. You know, it just helps better. At least for the water glasses. With the, you know, with the soda glasses, we're not going to taste it.
Starting point is 00:56:56 But, you know. You will if your nose is in it. I'm talking like the whole glass. Like the second, you know, like the rim of the glass goes over your nose. You're like, oh, okay. And you do the wine tasting thing where you just dip your nose all the way down, swirl it. Yeah, you look like Coca-Cola. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Every time. Every time. That's how you know you're dealing with a business that knows what to do. Sprite has notes of Lyman? Yes, Miles. You said that every fucking time. A hint of Lyman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:33 But yeah, I mean, so basically, climate warming, we're going to get less snow melt, more rain. LA is basically dependent on snow melt from the north being piped down to los angeles but because there's less snow there's gonna be less snow melt feeding the rivers up north but there's gonna be so i'm just like kind of impressed it's like you know a lot just a bunch of people with invisible jobs doing stuff to accommodate like our fucked up like changing world you know right which is what we're going to need and yeah my very ignorant take is like dude a watch like la is gonna be like a green place because of climate change and now everyone's gonna want to come here because climate change actually helped us out in a really cool way but yeah these these like
Starting point is 00:58:24 atmospheric rivers they're just the amounts of water that are coming down i'm sure i mean this is a thing that ellie's been contending with ever since this city was created but it's good to know be like man there's a lot of free water coming down every couple months like probably need to fucking do something about that rather than pissing it away into the ocean well Well, it's just such a city that's not built for weather. Like there's the fact that there's no real sewers. It's just everything immediately comes up out of the ground. And then as soon as there's wind,
Starting point is 00:58:52 just trees start falling, the slightest wind that there's like palm fronds in the highway. You know what I mean? It's going to take a little restructure. It's funny. I was, I was in Florida or like the, like the last couple of days and there there was a rainstorm in Miami.
Starting point is 00:59:07 And the way the water, I was driving, I was like, holy shit, man, this thing is a fucking full-on gale. And I remember, again, I became so Angeleno in the car. I was like, this is fucking the apocalypse. And then I was speaking with someone who lives down there. I'm like, so is this like a storm? I'm like, what the fuck's going on? They're like, what, the rain? It's what the rain it's like it's the rain and i'm like this isn't like fucked up they're like no this is like just what happens when it rains here and i'm
Starting point is 00:59:34 like okay all right well how do we can we not deal with rain we need like a gold star from wired magazine for how well we dealt with the rain when we right when we just like dig some ditches right hey i put a hole there for the water to go there you go buddy you're getting the hey good job pal you get a jacket yet nope i was like back in st louis eating like lunch outside there's a restaurant that was like outside but it was like tornado warnings the sky was green i know this is after i lived in la for like 10 years and there's like tornado sirens going off and just somebody sitting around acting like nothing is happening you know what i mean so it's yeah it's definitely both which is like i'm a total wimp and also other people are like too used to crazy weather you know right missouri has ghostbuster skies like
Starting point is 01:00:18 it has yeah i've seen just uh what i lived in columb Columbia, Missouri for a few years, and the sky was just like churning. And yes, green and just like sick, like just the strangest looking thing. And everyone's just like, yeah, we're just going about our business. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, psychedelic. Like, it looks like the rapture. Everybody's like, this will probably be fun. Yeah, this will blow over.
Starting point is 01:00:44 You can tell because it's coming out of the Northeast. How do you know that? How do you know the Northeast? The thing I know about St. Louis is I love Lion's Choice. Hell of a Sammy. I love that sandwich. That's my contribution
Starting point is 01:00:59 to that conversation. I can't get a sandwich that good without some apocalyptic skies scaring the people who are making it. You can feel the fear. You can sense that they know they could die at any moment. That the finger of God
Starting point is 01:01:16 could reach down from the sky and just suck them away in a tornado. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can taste it in the bread. Yeah, the fear chemicals really the beef really absorbs it i didn't i just i just found out as i google this right now the founder of lion's choice was a chemical engineer for monsanto so i taste so good yeah it's primarily
Starting point is 01:01:41 plastic yeah and weeds don't grow in my intestines anymore. Mort, what a pleasure having you, as always, on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah, just Mort Burke, M-O-R-T-B-U-R-K-E, on your various socials and such. And then, yeah, my special is called Spiritually Filthy on YouTube. Thanks for having me, you guys. Spiritual filth. Spiritual filth, baby, yeah, my special is called Spiritually Filthy on YouTube. Thanks for having me, you guys. Spiritual filth. Spiritual filth, baby, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:09 And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? You know, this dude Dusty Cohen posted a picture of three bikers with vests that say, Born to Ride, Donald J. Trump. Just a classic meme. Hell yeah, amazing. amazing miles where can people find you is there a work in media you've been enjoying uh yeah man you can find me at miles of gray on the platforms there most of them if not all of them uh also find us on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. If you like 90 Day Fiance, check me out on 420 Day Fiance. And yeah, let me see.
Starting point is 01:02:50 A tweet that I am a-likin'. Here's one. Wait, where is it? Where is it? Where is it? Oh, yeah, we were just talking about World War II. So Sean Morrow at SNMRRW tweeted, Just remembered that on 9-11, my teacher that broke the news to us theorized it might be the Japanese
Starting point is 01:03:08 because they quote used that strategy before. Holy shit. And then another one is from Kenti at fake. Kenti tweeted. My friend gave me a hit to go and it's an Evian bottle that clearly someone just blew a bunch of smoke into. Dude, that's sick. That's really funny.
Starting point is 01:03:32 An Evian to-go bong rip. Yeah, to-go rip. Yeah, man. Would that work? Someone who, it would have to be pretty quick. Like, you can't put that in your backpack. Like I did go the whole school day. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:45 And try it. It wants to dissipate. It is. Yeah. Yeah. A tweet. I've been enjoying, uh,
Starting point is 01:03:51 DeWitt B Farton tweeted. She called me Rowan Atkinson the way I missed her beans. Wow. Wow. How did the Mr. V click connection escape all of that? That guy's brilliant. Incredible work by Do It Be Fartin'.
Starting point is 01:04:16 We should have seen it coming with that username. Also very self-effacing attitude towards his own sexual ability. You can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song
Starting point is 01:04:46 that we think you might enjoy. Myles, what song do you think people might enjoy? A friend of mine put me on to some experimental, like, I've been listening to a lot of house dub,
Starting point is 01:04:57 techno, drum and bass kind of stuff. And someone's like, hey, you know Andy Stott? I said, no, I don't know who that is. What is that? And he's just like,
Starting point is 01:05:04 it's just a very kind of forward thinking, electronic kind of music. This track that I listen to, it's like a slow burn, but it's like, it's super vibey. It's not like the kind of thing that you're like, oh man, I'm going to blast this at my party. It's just kind of one of those headphone tracks. It's called Numb, N-U-M-B. I think it's an appropriate thing for what we've been talking about today. And it's by Andy Stott, S-T-O-T-T. So check that out. It's on the album Luxury Problems.
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