The Daily Zeitgeist - What’s A Regime? Between Two Swastikas 01.15.26

Episode Date: January 15, 2026

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Is Pesci's thing like he was friends with De Niro or something? Is that how he kind of came up? Did he die? Is that why you guys are talking about him? What happened? No. No, no, no. Just crazy.

Because Miles started going, I get, I get, I get, I get. It's a stupid character bit. Oh yeah, he was nominated in 90 or 91. Wait, no, what am I talking about? No, what the fuck is this? For probably Goodfellas, maybe? People ask, is Joe Pesci a hundred percent Italian? People.

I've been noticing that with the research on these icon episodes that we're doing where anytime you Google the person, it's like Elvis Presley space and it's like ethnicity. What's his ethnicity? Yeah, yeah. Like AI, all the AI results are like, is he a little Jewish anywhere? It's just always racism. This is the AI world we live. He won for Goodfellas.

Yeah, man. Oh, see, there we go. There was something in there. It's basically everything Pesci does is just a reprise of that. Yeah, after that. I just loved the detail from our Home Alone episode that behind the scenes, him and McCauley Calkin didn't get along. Yeah, right.

That's amazing. The egos are not too big to have these two on set, McCauley Calkin and a 50-year-old guy. He was jealous of the MJ relationship. Yeah, probably. It should have been me. But Joe Pesci wasn't Moonwalker, so he did have a relationship. He did have a relationship.

He did have a relationship with Michael Jackson, although I'm sure he... He was even like, what's the big deal with this guy? What's so cool about him? I can do this. Watch this. Annie, are you okay? Ah, fuck. Fuck.

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Oh, man. Oh, man. It's 2026. You never know when the Australian accent's going to strike. It's random. Like a flash of lightning, my. Flesh of lightning. National Bagel Day, yes.

National Strawberry ice cream day. Yes. National Hat Day. Yes. Top of the morning. Top of the morning, top of the morning, top of the morning. Top of the morning. Top of the morning.

Top of the morning. Top of the morning. Yeah, great. Great. I like all the morning. You've done it all. Good job, January 15th. No notes.

No notes. This is the best day. I think I've ever been a part of. Do you like strawberry ice cream? What's your feeling on strawberry? Good, yeah. Strawberry ice cream is one of those things where it's like if someone says that I immediately wanted, but I don't seek it out.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I get that. I feel like there's a few foods that are like that. You're like, I'm never in a position where the best flavor is strawberry ice cream, or I'm rarely in that position, which I think it is my choice. waste if it's vanilla chocolate strawberry. I'll go strawberry. But usually when I'm having ice cream these days, I'm going.

I'm going to a place that has a couple of different flavors, let's just say. Oh, gray and money. A couple of different flavors for a more sophisticated palette. Let's just say, we get it. You're Nancy Pelosi with the ice cream game. I'm Nancy Pelosi. You got your own freezer and everything. I'm not Nancy Pelosi.

I'm fully Nancy Pelosi. There's nothing ish about me. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka Potatoes O'Brien. and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, it's Miles Gray, aka the Shogun with To Guns. Shout out Lackaroni for that one. There does. You know, one time I did, like, back in college, my homegirl was, like, babysitting her younger cousin,

and she's like, I got my cousin with me. Is it cool if I stopped by? Because, like, we were hanging out. And I had my socks off, and he goes, wow, you've got buff feet. And it's all, and I was like, what the fuck? You got like a six pack down there? No, I think it was because I had vein. Like, there was like a vein on my foot or whatever.

And I was like, what do you mean? He's like, it's like, it's like a muscle. Like, is it the vein? What is it the veins? Yeah. But anyway, I'll always think about that. Does anyone have muscular feet? I don't think I've ever even like witnessed that.

Little kids can have some chubby ass feet. Oh yeah. But muscular though, muscular. Like when you look at that, you're like, bro, they might snatch me up. Because like even like orangutans and shit like, you know. I think the sport that you guys don't appreciate as much. the real football. It's actually not what I'm talking about.

I'm talking shit. Miles has a big football as a soccer fan. But soccer players have massive feet. Like I think they have very muscular feet. I mean, they got fucked up toes. I mean, I guess like where do you even build, like, what I mean like building muscle on your foot, where you like, bro, look at you.

You're lacking on your heel meat. Look, this is a big roundabout way for us to pitch to all the footballers out there. Send us those feet. Yeah. You get a look at those feet. I bet your feet aren't that muscular. Do you guys have wiki feet in entries?

That doesn't happen with men on the internet, right? Also because I've never shown my toes outside of the bounds of my front door. I keep those shit under wraps. You think that, you think that. But wiki feet people have a. They shoot me through the window. No, 100%. They have pictures of your feet.

The thing is, Jack and I live by one simple rule that was given to us by Jizz of the genius. And it's a minimum. And feminine like sandals. Yes. You know what I mean? You don't wear sandals. That's feminine. Get your toes out.

You know what I mean? That's an actual lyric from one of the great raps. And that's a minimum. And feminine like sandals. And you're like, okay, we are fully in 1994. All right. I'm not wearing sandals. Okay.

No taking. I'm 10. What about your teeth? I feel like this is more about you. than anybody else, sir. Everything's feminine except Timberlands. If you're playing basketball, you should be wearing Timberlins or Clark Wallabies.

Going to bed? Timberlons. Walking to the shower, Timberlands. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our very favorite guests, a brilliant medium writer, journalist, activist, you know from places like Al Jazeera, MSNBC. I'm from the podcast, The Bittuation Room.

Yeah. It's Francesca Furentini. Francesca. Hi. Hey, how are you? I'm okay, I'm hanging in there. Thank you for having me. So much has happened in the first two weeks of this year.

I feel like we should just fast forward to the end. You know, guy gets girl. Bad guys fall down a well or whatever. Is that what your prediction is for the year? You think you're going to fall down a well? They're going to fall down a well. It's like the financial plan of finding a big bag of money. I think we get out of this one,

all these guys fall down a well. This is the broader plan. You know, fuck the midterms. It's like, where are the wells? Where are the open shafts? Well, I mean, push people down. The old ballroom is just a gaping hole in the earth.

This is true. You know, it's kind of right there. I feel like he's feeling the call of the void. He just like stopped in the middle of that one meeting and was like, hold on, I got to go look at it. Yeah, exactly. And just like gazed out into the void. Maybe he's hearing that call.

I do feel like, given the caliber of. of ICE recruits and how easy it is to actually get hired. Yeah. Just they're setting themselves up for a very dope, like, caterer, poisons entire punchbow. You know, like, this is, they're not vetting their people is what I'm trying to say. I'm not trying to suggest if you're listening to my voice that you do any such thing. Heaven forbid, I am a nonviolent person, but, you know, just saying. I feel like it will be the first mass shooting event.

that actually happens by accident, just like all of them slipping on ice and, like, guns going off. Oh, like in true lies when Jamie Lee Curtis dropped that Ouzi down the steps? Right, right, but like just a circle of, yeah. Anyways, those are all things that aren't happening in the news.

We're going to, Francesco, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things. We're talking about. We're going to, of course, check in with Marquine. Mark Quine, Moulin. Oh, hi, Mark Wayne. Yeah.

No relation to Marshawn Lynch. Hey, I was like, hey, Mark, Mark. If you just emphasize the Mar and then make Quain, the one word, it kind of does sound like it could be. Who is an actual senator? Yes, Mark Wayne, Mullen is an actual senator who's out there doing the legwork of explaining what the Trump administration's plan is in Iran. Oh, thank God. Yes. Someone has to.

He's a good one. We're going to talk about an interview with RFK Jr. just killer appearance on Katie Gerbils's podcast. Katie Miller. Katie Miller. Yeah. Katie Miller. I think it's called.

Their last name is Miller? Yeah. Meet the Millers. Teenage Ninja Miller. Yeah. Yeah. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about where the Democrats are at again.

We talked about it a lot on yesterday's trending, but we'll check in again. So we're going to talk about that. We have a fun one today, guys. It sounds like it. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes we need to like burn off a lot. of like really bad news and Francesca you're one of the best at covering bad news.

Oh God, thank you. Oh my God, and making it fun. So you're welcome. Before you get to any of that bullshit, we do like to ask our guest, Francesca, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I think so I've been looking up, you know, how many people have died at the hands of ice, been shot and killed, been shot, not killed, died in ICE custody. And I just, like, it's really hard, you know, I'm trying to summarize things for my followers

and listeners. And there isn't, there isn't a database, really, with all of them. I think there's an organization called Trace, thetrace.org that's done some good work. But, you know, it's like, I believe Renee is one of three people who've been, shot and killed by ice, including Keith Porter in L.A., but there have been many more who've died in ICE custody, dozens and dozens who've died in ICE custody. And then others, like, a woman out of Chicago, right? I can't, I can't, like, Marie Mar, I think is maybe her first name, who was shot nine, seven times, struck by five bullets and survived the same circumstances

as Renee, survived. Yeah, not for lack of trying. The fact that it's three. Right. And And then they charged her with, they charged her with a felony, which is insane. She gets charged with a felony and they just, they completely, the case fell apart against her. She was able to, you know, obviously at least escape the felony charges. But what about the charges for the person who tried to murder her? Right. And again, this is about jurisdiction. And so anyway, I was, I've been looking up and trying to keep track of like exactly how many people have been shot and killed.

How many people have, you know, there have been, of course, people have tried to escape. ice and then have, you know, either fall into their death or two people have been killed by oncoming traffic because they were trying to escape ice. I mean, this is the level of dehumanization and desperation. So yeah, yeah, that's, that's my fun. Terrifying way possible and the most violent way possible. And they're just like, I'm going to cut you out of your car and just like, yeah. The most unsafe for all people. Like, there is something to be said, like, we apprehend actual criminals in a much safer way. than this.

And so again. Then like losers with gun get to like, yeah, act out there macho fantasies on people. Guilty of impeding the progress of law enforcement bullets. Yeah. What they're charging people with? I was trying to think of like a fun, like what's a fun social media clip I could do?

Like just try to walk into oncoming traffic and be like, I'm defending myself. Right. But I would probably get hit. So I wouldn't do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And the details of the people who are dying of, you know, illness, the details of how people are being treated, people with, you know, diabetes and other things that require medication who are just not being given access to that medication. It's not, it's not like, well, you know, some people are going to die when they're, no, it's the way that they're being treated is directly leading to their deaths. I mean, there's also, like, you just, there's like the story recently about this guy who was deported back to Kosci

Costa Rica in a vegetative state with no explanation. Right. Yes, I saw that. You've been deported and they're like, what happened? And then he passed away like a few weeks later because I mean, and I hate to. It is not always about this, but it is hard after watching, you know, two plus years of a genocide in Israel and the occupation in the West Bank and the, you know, ongoing violence there and not be like, oh, this is super IDF playbook. This is how Palestinian detainees are treated when they're in Israeli jails. I mean, we saw the dichotomy between even the way the hostages were treated by Hamas

versus the way Palestinians who were released in the final exchange, you know, were treated the prevention of getting medical care. Like, it's just like, you know, we cannot be blind to the similarities here. The U.S. right has always admired the way that the Israeli right. And the Israeli government more broadly treats Palestinians in their version of of ethnic cleansing there. Yeah, because I think they're always like, damn, y'all are just doing it like that, huh?

Like fully mask off? And that's, yeah, that's what we have now, except in a weird way, it's mask on. Right. For the ice age. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mask on, mask off. What is something you think is underrated, Francesca? So underrated is knowing how to tail someone.

Let me explain. Ice was in my neighborhood and around a bunch of, you know, Los Angeles, like Highland Park area and, you know, I don't want to docks myself, but like, whatever. No, they were all over East Los Angeles. They were all over East Los Angeles, right? And so I got Word, because you signed up for texts, that, you know, what they were driving and whatnot. And so I had an hour or so.

So I was like, let me get in the car. And I have a whistle. And I went out and, number one, don't blow the whistle inside the car because you will blow your ears out. I just learned that. Maybe you have the windows down. Yeah, I was stopping and talking to folks who, you know, either gardener. or workers or I went to a car wash that I like, you know, and told them. And, you know, I knew

that ICE was picking folks up. And I was like trying to find these SUVs, which are always, they're always like American, right? So they're always like Chevy's. Jeep wagoneers, you see a lot now. Right, like big ass suburban. And so I was like, damn, I can't, you know, I was just looking around. I couldn't really find him. And then as I'm turning onto this one street, and I'm already in the left turn lane, a car coming towards me in the, like, left turn lane oncoming. The other direction, yeah. Is the suburban that looks exactly like it?

And my dumb ass, like, wasn't able to pivot in the moment. I mean, it would have been illegal, would have been a little dangerous, but like, whatever. It was a chill intersection, actually. Like, I could have just pivoted and followed him and said, I did the whole loop, had to wait in the light, and then just lost this person. And I'm just saying, I feel like movies make it,

I don't know why movies lie. Yeah, they make it seem really easy. They make it seem really easy, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Video games, too, especially. And video games. The one thing that I've noticed is a bigger problem, a bigger hindrance in movies where people are tailing or chasing someone is like somebody walking across the street with a big glass pane or a giant cake. I feel like that.

I guess most minor, like 80s. Crates of watermelons. Yeah, crates of watermelon. That's right. But it's hard to tail someone. So I feel like there is like a value. A lot of people are doing great work now. Obviously, be safe and whatnot.

But, yeah, I appreciated all the tailors. Yeah. I think they're called tailors. Mm-hmm. Who, you know, whose names we will never know. No, no, no. Was the person making the left end of the oncoming? Were they being tailed?

Were they being wholen? I don't know. They probably had someone on them. Yeah, nice. They wouldn't know because that person was. Delth about it. Not me. He was like,

oh, or, yeah. Who are you? Who are you really quick? Oh, fuck they love. Just honk at them.

What is something you think is overrated? Family vacations are overrated. Um, this is obviously we're coming off of a holidays. Uh, went to Sedona, which is also overrated. Sorry.

Oh, really? But, uh, maybe it's beautiful. It's, but as an energy vortex, but as an energy vortex.

energy vortex. Here's the problem with Sedona, and I apologize to everyone who's in Arizona, but the fact that you and Sedona are in Arizona is probably the first problem. Because this is like, it's a total desecration. There's like hotels and, you know, condos being built right up into Sedona. And it was like, okay, if this were in California, I'm like, Gavin would at least have this be protected territory. We wouldn't be able to, you know, be right here. Anyway, that's not what I'm, I just feel like vacations with family, like I was with my 80-year-old mom, and she was like, your kid is loud. And I'm like, yeah, she's three. She's a toddler, you know, like, why is she so loud?

I just feel like I've gone on vacations with friends and you're so much more polite to your friends. You're so much more sort of understanding to your friends. You, you know, you just kind of like you don't grill them about their life choices the way your family does. And I feel like that's underrated or overrated as family vacations and underrated are, you know, being with friends, the family you choose. Yes. That's actually the theme of, I've actually noticed that that's the theme of my favorite series of films, The Avengers movies, that really you can have found family. Yeah. Is that what I mean?

Fast and Furious, too. Fast and furious. But you have to have like a special. Every movie. Yeah. You have to have a special power, right? Yeah. At least that.

I mean, like, I get that too. It's like, because any interaction with your family, it's usually, at least with my Asian family, it's, there's no like talking. Like, you're always just going to get dragged on some level. It's just how you talk? And that's like, well, how come you haven't done this? I'm like, didn't you say you're going to work out? Wasn't that a thing you were going to say? You don't look like it.

I'm like, well, you know, a lot's happened. They're like, is your son okay? He seems skinny. I'm like, what the fuck? What? It's fine. It's fine. Thank you.

Yeah. You can't just have a normal, like, we can't just talk about a book or a movie or a show or like any, like normal-ass conversation or, you know, it, oh, God, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's bad. It's always like, if you weren't doing what you're doing now, what would you do? Do you think you could have made some better decisions? Have you, yeah, and it's like, first of all, there are no jobs. Can I just say that, mom? And also, I'm doing pretty good, okay? What the fuck?

I try to bring a family vacation energy to a friend vacation. I like to start asking people questions about their five-year plan. So what do you, Jew? That's interesting. I feel like you have less hair than when I saw you last time. Another thing that's straight to my face. Why don't you call me more? Yeah.

See, exactly. Friends don't do that. I love that. Yeah. All right. Great, overrated. Underrated Francesca. Sedona caught some strays despite being one.

One of our finest energy vortex. Oh my God, dude. The Sedona method? I was there for like a day and I just remember like so many people talking about it being an energy vortex. This is a long time ago. Maybe they've moved on from that. It's a big Salem witch trial. Everyone's convinced there is energy vortex.

So everyone sort of like suspect, you know, we're all, yes, there's energy here, you know. It's kind of like a mass delusion. Yeah, I like it. Also very sacred. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. I've seen the plans for the latest best Western that they're building into the side of that Adobe village. Absolutely.

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And so is Mark Wayne Mullen. Oh, Mark Wayne. Oh, Mark Wayne. Oh, man. Senator, come at me, bro. I think is also another version to describe him as he was always trying to, who's he trying to fight? So agro.

Was it Sean Fane or something? Oh, Sean O'Brien. Of the Teamsters. Yeah. Always like, I'll fight you all. What doesn't matter? I mean, I won't. I won't.

I never will. I don't know if you saw a picture of me in January 6 where I was cowering for my life, but still acted like everything was all good in there. Was he? He was at January 6. Yeah, he was in the fucking. There's a photo of him. Inside cowering.

In the gallery. Like being like, they were the scaredest motherfuckers. We're the people who, you know, were part of it and now have the energy of like, those are our people. Yeah. I embrace them. Play the music of the J6 people singing. Right.

That was my wedding song, bro. Come in to me. Do you hear the J6 people sing, singing the song of angry? Sorry. So, like, yeah, right now he's not smart. So whenever he has to go and talk in public, it's an L, about 99% of the time. And right now, he's doing a terrible. job of selling Trump's potential regime change mission in Iran. Obviously, we're like protests over

costs of living and many other things have met, were met with a violent crackdown leading to thousands of protesters being killed, tens of thousands being arrested. Trump has been escalating this. He's like, help is on the way to you people. Don't worry about that. And he basically said that the U.S. may have to roll up their imperial sleeves one more time if the Iranian government begins hanging protesters. But I'm also just like, oh, okay. So is treatment of protesters a big thing about how we gauge, like a disability? Yeah, how are they? What are they doing over there?

Not, not sure. Not sure. But I'm sure they will probably look at that and do a what aboutism to be like, well, I mean, it's like, what's like what's happening in Iran? Just because we have people being shot, it's, it's acceptable. So now people are in the fully, like the phase of Jesus. Are we trying to fight a nine front world war now? What is going on?

So the GOP had to send. The brightest minds. Sure boy. Let's go. Mark Wayne out there. And he got out there and basically demonstrated that he does not know what a regime is or what change is or the words there in. Change. You think that's some Obama shit.

Yeah. He is really just on some. Like he does like a whole thing where he was like, he's like, and we might have to, we might have to take them out. And then, like, I'll just play the clip of him on CNN. We knew this was a possibility, even though we're not into the regime change. We're not, we're not, this isn't the Arab Spring like happened underneath Secretary of Clinton, but this is the people of Iran standing up to a murderous regime. And if that leadership is going to kill their own people, the president said, we'll come to your rescue.

But you just said you are for regime change here. No, I said I'm for the strikes. You said before that you're for taking out the regime. Yeah, absolutely, because they're the ones murdering their own people. That's different than regime change. The regime change is up to the Iranian people. We didn't, we're not going actively to remove the regime. We're going after the people that are killing their own people, and that happens to be the regime.

Which is. This is so beautiful, because you're seeing in real time a no more forever wars, you know, right-wing, so-called populist, maga, you know, elected. try to fit into the neocon, you know, cut out that he, because by virtue of being a fucking Republican, he has to be now. And it's, he cannot fit him. He doesn't get it. He's like, no, but that, we don't want the regime change when, like, what he's actually

sounding like is a Democrat, which is, oh, no, we don't do regime change just to be bullies and just to, you know, take, you know, resources. Right, right. We're doing it to save the people of Iran, which is this whole new fucking, like, reveal for the Trump administration that's so beautiful to actually point out that, like, we thought you guys were just the fucking tough guys. We were going to do the deals and get all the oil and all this. And now you're like, save the people. We like protesters. You fucking woke, you know, like BLM little softies.

Yeah. The whole issue even here, just like, look, and I'm not for regime change. Caitlin Collins rightly is like, you just said you were like, I'm for taking out the regime. So therefore a change can occur in regimes. But I am not the one doing that. That is for the Iranian people or the CIA or the Iranian people to decide who their next leader will be. So no, not gotchaed at all. Sorry.

Like, what the fuck? It is just like, just Jack, the way you're walking him through his logic. towards the end of this clip is so funny because he is just talking in circles. And there's not, and you just see more and more people like, like MAGA voters who are like, I'm pretty sure like when we're bombing things, that's like money, right? We're essentially pissing away. But again, I just want to follow the thing where's like, we're not doing regime. It's the point actively to remove the regime.

We're going after the people that are killing their own people and that happens to be the regime. But just to clear, you support take me out. the Supreme Leader. If he's the one that's calling these airstrikes or the killings of his own people, then absolutely. Okay, but that would be regime change. At that point, the Iranian people have spoke. They want a regime change.

It's obviously they want regime change. They spoke when you're using American munitions to kill people. The airstrikes, which he like accidentally said, said that he was, the people who were ordering the air strike. Oh, sorry, that's us. We're doing the air strike. That's us. This is so beautiful.

I just think it's also really pathetic. because it shows that, like, Democrats have really left this entire, like, laying wide open. I've said this so many times. It's the same reason Marjorie Green or, you know, Mark Wayne Mullen or other people can say, or even Tulsi Gabbard, who must have, like, one new patch of white in her fucking there after two regime change wars or, you know, one and a half and more on the docket. But is, like, he's saying this because he knows regime change is a bad word. It's a bad word for Republicans, Democrats, independents, Americans writ large.

We're tired of spending money abroad on installing whatever fucking government abroad. And we want money spent at home. Now, of course, I think a lot of them are like, yeah, we want money spent on the ethnic cleansing war that ICE is carrying out right now, on my neighbors. But at least catching them in this moment is just kind of, it's wonderful. Because he has no rhetorical, intellectual way to talk. out of this. He looks so confused. You're fundamental.

You're talking about, it's like crazy. You're describing a square to the fucking T. And like, you're just described to square. No, what I said was a shape with two parallel sides of equal length. And four corners. Very different. And all the corners are 90 degree angles. And they, but every side must be of equal.

You're describing a square. No, I'm describing. That's up to the Iranian people, whether it's a square or not. could be a triangle. That's the thing we don't know. But if the Iranian people don't want that, regime change. Like the last thing he wants is to be Ted Cruz.

The last thing he wants us to be Lindsay Graham. Lizzie Graham's out here literally in some make-up Iran-grade again. Like, he's got merch. Lizzie Graham got merch already for this shit. God, Lindsay. There was a big protest in Westwood. I was on Westwood over the weekend. There was a, a, make-I-I-Rone.

Great, great again protest, which. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, the, yeah. With this, who know, with all their, everything Mark Wayne Mullen is saying, because really what we're talking about here is like, come and doing like Ayatollah, or sorry, the Shah 3.0. Right. And coming back and like, maybe we get somebody who's going to be, you know,

helpful with that, you know. To the extent that they're supporting, some people are supporting the son of the Shah. Right. Right. As the, you know, replacing. Yeah, I mean, it's really the diaspora is very interesting because it is so multifaceted. There's so many different folks and, you know, definitely the Westwood. Yay, we hate this regime. Go bomb it. I mean, there are people that that is not representative, I think, of the broader Iranian people who want freedom, but also don't want, you know, to be under the boot. Yeah, don't want to be bombed. To have another imperial puppet be the leader. And I think that's the important thing is like, you let the fucking people of Iran to stop. who their leader is. Don't do this thing where you're mosa-degging it up again with the help of the CIA and creating some kind of regime change. Like, look, that guy was a loser. This guy, the Shaw, though, he's pretty cool. We're just letting them decide, but like, what if we don't like what they decide? Then we will do a strike on that person, and then we'll let them decide. And if we don't like the person they decide, we'll do a strike on that person. That is not regime change. Or bomb.

I mean, it's a good, you know. You want the same thing? Because it goes again, it's like, we've literally seen this fucking exact movie before. And it fucking sucks. It doesn't work out for the people. Yeah. Hey, here we are. History is a shitty reboot.

Yeah. Yeah, the shittiest one. I feel like they're doing a little bit of this where they like put out people who they are, who are like kind of idiot. Like, I feel like J.D. Vance, they're letting him hold the some of the Minneapolis stuff. Like he's become the face of that. Yeah, because like the one person who can talk kind of good. Yeah. And I've seen analysis of people who are like,

that's how you know, they know it's all fucked. That's how you know they're afraid. Yeah. But don't worry. Don't worry, Republicans. The opposition party doesn't exist. So you don't have to ever worry about being held accountable for your crimes that you're perpetuating.

Exactly. Well, basically act like there's no elections coming up, unless it comes to you. us your money, in which case we do think there's elections coming up when we do need your money. All right. We've got a great interview with RFK Jr. Yes. Sick appearance.

I haven't watched that much of Katie Miller's podcast. So good, dude. You haven't seen one episode of Between Two Swastikas? Dude, it's sick. Dude, it's sick. They're always- I've seen clips. You learn shit about how Stevie Miller loves mayonnaise.

That's like where we're. We learn those kinds of fucked up things. Yeah. Yeah. My favorite, but like on, you know, on his asshole while he's being pegged. No, I don't even know. My favorite part about this podcast, and I say this is someone who did not do full makeup today.

And I, you know, I've looked better. But Katie Miller has this ability to look like such a fucking schlub at a time when like everyone's got their Mar-a-Lago face. And I don't know whether I love it or hate it, but I am going to make fun of it. She's always, like, in a fucking oversized sweatshirt, like, completely leaning back. Like, and I can't just, like, hugging. Like, her hair is, like, barely fucking brushed. And she's just, like, talking to Mike Johnson, like, like, this.

And it's just, I don't know, there's something so disgusting about that. Like, she is, like, a little bit of a gargoyle. And she is, like, a, like, a, whatever, like a, what is it called? Like, a shit bun come to life. You know, you put her hair up in a bun. Sure, sure, sure. I mean, I wish I could put this into a shit. And there is something that I kind of respect about, I think, her insides matching her outsides.

Because usually Maga chicks are like, no, I've got to be super, super put together. But like Katie Miller actually kind of is matching her like moral slubbiness with her outward schlobiness. Right. I mean, yeah. I think the one thing that they always talked about, too, with her doing this podcast was like, you know, she helps offer like a softer fucked up side of MAGA. You know what I mean? She's just a mom out there. trying to create the intellectual cover for ethno-nationalism,

like any of us ladies out there, right? So, yeah, again, anytime someone comes on, it really is like some between two ferns shit. Like, it's just the pacing's weird because all these people are evil, like their souls are dying in real time in front of you on camera. And her most recent guest, like you said, was the man trying to destroy the country from our insides, RFK Jr.

Unfortunately. The other person who's outsides match their insides. Yeah. Yeah. He's got some, he's like mid-white walker changeover. Right. But wearing like a bunch of Trump makeup to hide it. So skin is like bright orange.

During the interview, they weren't able to touch on things like him assaulting a babysitter or who used to sell the best heroin back at Harvard. But they did try to make it seem like he knows something about being healthy. Katie Miller just like this one clip, it's like, It feels like you're watching some show, like, I don't know, like, like sport professional athletes interviewing each other about what's going on in the locker room, except it's the fucking Fourth Reich. So here's this first one, but like, tell me what like, who's like, has a wildest eating style.

Who has the most unhinged eating habits? The president. Oh, you know, the interesting thing about the president is that. God, he looks like he's going to first. He eats really bad. food, which is McDonald's, and then, you know, candy and Diet Coke. But he drinks the Diet Coke all times. He has a constitution of a deity.

I don't know how he's alive, but he is. But, and he said Mar-a-Lago, he says that the only time that he eats the junk food is when he's on the road, and he wants to eat food from big corporations. because he trusts it. He doesn't want to get sick when he... So he goes on and he be like, that's why... That's a great philosophy. You could always trust the gigantic corporations

to have your health be front of mind. Don Churchill has the constitution of, like, late stage Elvis. Like, he's always just, like, falling asleep, sitting up and looks incredibly bloated, and, like, he is one shit away from dying on the toilet. Like, every time you see him, in public and he's like he's got the constitution of a deity of a deity he goes on and be like i don't know how he's alive but he is what was that line was he saying i thought he was saying he defies diet coke

but he's saying that trump has the constitution of a deity he went from saying he has the worst diet i i think he's contrasting it like he he the fact that he can be he can eat all this shit is like when the general and rambo's like he eats stuff that'll make a billy goat puke is like what i think you was trying to do there, but to say that he has the constitution of a deity is, I don't think anyone is feeling that. I don't think anyone's like, you know who it's the constitution of it. You could just put wings

on that motherfucker and give him a bow and arrow and he'd be cupish. I bet RFK was realizing in real time he was talking shit about him and he's like, but, you know, my boy's got the constitution of a deity. Exactly. That's why. He was like, there's only so far and so much that I can say about how much trash is man eats.

I will say the last time I ate a filial fish, I felt like it took nutrients from me. No, false. Gave them back to McDonald's. It was like, gave them to Donald Trump. That's how he's surviving. Have you guys ever met someone?

Well, oh yeah. They created it where it took it from me, gave it to him. That's why he's living so long. Have you guys ever met someone who actually does eat like this? Like I met, I remember someone like some exact, right? And he like traveled a lot and he would go to Thailand a lot. And I was like, oh, dope. I don't, I've always wanted to go.

go. I think he went to Vietnam and like Southeast Asia and I was like, okay, that's amazing. That's great. And I was like, oh, tell me about the food. You know, like, what do you eat? Because I always am food curious when people travel. And he was like, oh, I mostly, I just go to McDonald's. And I was like, who is? Oh, yeah, I know. People are curious mind. Yeah. Oh, yeah, because I just don't want to, you know, I don't want to get sick and I trust it. And I'm like, fucking. If I had the money to travel and never ate the food, but only ate McDonald's like, it's just like, ah, people with money.

sometimes are so classless. Yeah, well. Yeah, I mean, or just like they, they, they, the whole thing is about comfort and never making yourself uncomfortable with new experiences at all. So it's like, just fucking, I mean, I remember going, I went like on a family trip with some people and like, like, we got, we were in Costa Rica and these people are like, I need subway. They were only eating subway the whole time. I'm like, you are dumb as hell.

There's fucking, you're on the, oh, you can eat saviche, right? You can fish, bro. And they're like, I need, I need like a turkey sandwich. from Subway. I mean, you could eat a tortilla. You could eat a sandwich, right? Like something. Yeah.

I can understand a McDonald's meal on a long trip as comfort food. Subway is inexcusable. Subway is a stand-in for other food. Inexcusable. So the interview didn't end there, but it is funny. It has got to be wild when the deaths are of the United States is like, uh, how are you still alive, bro? Yeah.

Then this answer, this is another question, Katie Miller asked them, that the answer alone, as if everything else about RFK Jr. isn't disqualifying. But even his answer to this question of like, hey, man, like, what brand of vitamins do you take? This is the dumbest fucking, fucking, literally asking. He is the motherfucker who's like vitamins can replace all of like Western medicine. You should just be like taking good, good vitamins. Yeah, which is crazy. Oh, so you say that as the head of health and human service? Okay, go on. Let's hear more. He sucks the blood out of a snake every morning, right? Yeah, and I have to eat a little bit of a little bit of bear cub meat and I'll be okay.

I, what brand of vitamin do you take? This whole, just this segment reminds me so much of Galaphanacus. Like he's trying, he's like stumped. Like, I don't know what he was answering before, but she's just straight up. What vitamin, what brand of vitamin do you take? She is so riseless and distasteful that she is doing this. dry humor unintentionally.

This is not on purpose. You know what I know. She's just so like Levinna Venganic. It's like so wow. You know, you got, you know, Dr. Oz's had a long history. Like there's no fuck as fucking,

that's not a question. It's funny. The only time I've seen her come alive because I've never really seen her on camera other than this. And then the clip where Jesse Waters was making fun of her husband for being bad at fucking.

And like in that clip. The sexual matter. Sexual Matador. And in that clip, she, like, really kind of comes alive and, like, has an energy about her. So it's interesting that the only time that she has charisma is when she's talking about how she never fucks her husband. What brand the vitamin do you take? Oh, I was taking Dr. McCola, but I take all kinds of stuff. I don't know. I usually don't talk about that because I don't really want to offer myself as a role model for what people should be taking. For real?

But you seem so healthy. You seem so good and healthy at normal. I kind of don't want people to, no, I don't, look, you want me to be real, man, it's heroin, it's creatine. It's testosterone. That's all it is, just nothing but testosterone. Yeah, and HGH.

I don't know if you notice how big my head's gotten in the last eight months. Yeah. My method is I read an article about something and, you know, and I get convinced. I got to have this answer. And then I get it. And then six months later, I'm still taking it. I don't remember what the article says.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is an amazing admission. I'm sorry. That is his entire way of finding out about health things of all sorts. And then that's how he leads to the country. He just admitted it. I love the like inability to lie in this administration, this regime. And they all have it. They all have the same fucking tick.

That's how unaccountable they are. They can just open. be like, I don't know, I read an article in men's health, you know. I don't know. I get, yeah, I get like weird, whatever like Andrew Tate is talking about on his pod, I'll like look into that a little bit, get excited and then I forget what I'm even doing. But please don't take my advice. I'm just the head of health and human services. I'm just, you know, reissuing the childhood vaccine schedule based on an article I read one time that I started to believe and never got out of my head and have never second guessed. Right. And then forgot even one.

what this whole thing was about even. Exactly. Why am I here? Yeah. Well, hey, like you said, Oh my God. He admitted it. Yeah.

100%. I'm so curious what the rest of his answer was here. Not a big grade of vitamins that I'm taking. I don't even know why. It's like most people. No. It's like most people. It's like most people.

No, it's not. It's not actually like most people. Wow. Great appearance. Give me a little more insight into this. I feel like that could have been an explanation for like what your your policy on vaccines. Where did that come from? Well, you know, I read an article six months ago.

I don't even really remember what it was. I read this article in a medical journal that actually was taken down after the fact that tried to link childhood vaccines to autism. The own journal itself had to say, we should have never have published this. This is actually false information. The person behind that study was actually pushing their own version of a MMR vaccine, which is why the study came out. so they could actually bolster the chances of their fucking made-up vaccine,

getting more uptake if he created a whole autism scale. I could go on. But I don't know. I forget what the whole thing was about. Anyway, so that article became my whole person. By the end of that sentence, I forget what we were talking about. The whole article is my whole personality now. I like the idea of just keeping, you know, a big basket full of vaccines and vitamins,

kind of waking up every morning and sort of blindly just fishing a few out, you know, and shooting them and taking them and just see whatever the fuck happens. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. This is the model. It's called pill roulette, where I put a bunch of pills in a jar and then I just shake them up and see what kind of high I get. He's not getting any high. Let's take it.

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We're back. And we like to check in with the Democrats. Every once in a while. See how they're doing. See what they're cooking up on their end. Yeah. Usually we'll just put a nice little hand mirror in front of their nose. Just be like, is everything?

Yeah, okay. No, no, no, no. Oh, my God. Just Jackie. I mean, look, the midterms are coming up. I mentioned in the trending episode, the prognosticators are like fucking blue fucking wall. This thing that's coming is going to be unlike even Trump's first term,

just based on the early data. Okay, one of my predictions, and if you remember for this year, was that the Democrats will probably fail to capitalize on all that momentum somehow, mostly because they have to appease the donors. And just a couple headlines I saw in the last few days that I'm like, is what I'm talking about. So first one is from The Guardian, but it's about someone who's really elevated himself in this second Trump administration to be like, I'm going to roll, I'm going to fucking fight Trump one on one. And that's Governor Gavin Newsom of our state of California. He has just, right now there is a ballot voter initiative that is going around trying to get 900,000 signatures to charge a one-time 5% tax on any resident of the state worth more than $1 billion. Okay. One time, five percent.

Won't you think about your neighbors? Yeah, exactly. Now, and this is the headline we get because Gavin Newsom is not here to find. fucking save anyone except for these billionaires. And this is a perfect example. So put the idea of Gavin Newsom doing anything to fucking change this country for the good out of your mind. California's governor Gavin Newsom renewed his pledge this week to fight a controversial plan to tax billionaires in the state. The proposed ballot measure, which could go to voters in November, has gained public attention recently amid heavy criticism and threats from tech moguls to leave

the state. We've seen this playbook all the time. Well, I'll take my money and go. Yeah, we can't have that. That's one thing. Because they do that. They do that every time. Every time they threaten to, like, have you seen New York? Yeah, they're all gone. They're all gone.

It's like half the population, which I have to assume half the population billionaires, are all gone. I know yesterday, I think you covered a week full of Zeran Mamdani L's from a policy. Yeah, yeah, where he's just. Absolute lack of action that he's been engaged in. Yeah. Yeah. They're all gone.

A thing to note, right, is that if your adversaries who come out, like in terms of your policies are oligarchs and the wealthy, that's the person you want to vote for. Right. When you have someone like Gavin Newsom who has said he's doing everything he can to appease the Sergei Brins and Peter Thiel's of the world to be like, don't take your money, then guess what? His interests are diametrically opposed to yours as a working person. So do not think for a moment that when it comes to doing anything for, from a policy standpoint that would actually improve our lives,

he's going to fucking grab that thing by the scruff and do something. No, it's going to be some watered down. And it's more than a working person. I mean, this is what I think is wrong, you know, with the Gavin Newsome love is I think there's a lot of people who are actually fairly comfortable, you know, people who are, you know, I don't know, maybe you're making a few hundred thousand a year. Good for you, you know.

Brunchcraft. You are so far from being a billionaire. You are closer to being your Uber driver or your delivery driver, or your delivery driver, whomever, then you are to being a billionaire. I'm sorry, I've got news for you. you're not going to be a billionaire, okay? And by the way, you're being taxed. If you're making, let's say you're making $500,000 a year, good for you, you're being taxed at way higher a rate than actual billionaires. So please recognize that you have more class solidarity and should

have more class solidarity with, you know, people making $20 an hour, $15 an hour than these billionaires. They're not coming after you. They're actually, we're, and that's on purpose. We, like, this is a state that a state that absolutely preys on sort of upper middle income folks to be like, I don't know, you're paying a lot on taxes. And it's like, no, but you are, but not, but that's also because the people richer than you are not paying their fair share. And so you're absolutely right. For 40 years.

Like we're talking about people like Peter Thiel, right, in Palantir and everything they're doing with ICE and all the surveillance state shit that they have their hands in and our lack of privacy. Like, Gavin Newsom is going to bat for that man. That's who he's going to bat for. That's who he's calling up the president of the SEIU to be like, can you maybe like relax this whole fucking billionaire tax thing? Because that's who's behind this is the SEIU. And he's going to unions and being like, hey, can you knock off this shit to try and fucking create even a modicum of equity here in this state? But that's sort of Gavin Newsom's ammo. Like, I can't prove this, but I do think that that's also what happened around universal health care in this state.

You know, there were efforts for, you know, California's Medicare for All program. And I think Newsom ultimately knew he was never going to sign something like that. And so what he does is he tries to lean on the unions and he tries to lean on other legislators to be like, please go on the defense for me on this. So I don't have to veto it. But of course he has vetoed legislation that's, wildly popular, like, you know, harm reduction injection injection sites and things like this. He's vetoed that shit.

But on these bigger things, he's trying to always have others run cover for him. He's like, well, never was put before my desk, but I'm super about, you know, Medicare for all bullshit. You know you've never been about that life. And all the people, and I hope fucking SDIU sticks to their guns and I hope other unions and I hope, you know, Californians and Californians more generally because we have to stop running cover for these fucks who, I mean, come on. The battle lines have been drawn, y'all.

Like, the billionaires know where their bread is buttered. Right. And I think that's the next, that's like the huge hump we have to get over in terms of real progress is getting enough of the electorate to understand, like, what this means when a Gavin Newsom says, I'm against a 5% tax. One time, fucking one time tax on people worth over $1 billion. Like, the fact that you're against that is. should be disqualifying for anyone who has a vision of the United States that seems more fair,

equitable, or humane. Because again, with all of the fucking, the capitalist nightmare we're in to even put through more gasoline on their fire is at our own expense. Another headline that would do anyone's fucking head in is the Searchlight Institute, which is a think tank, basically an offshoot of Harry Reid's Senate office because it's ran by his former chief of staff, searchlight being the town he's from in Nevada. They've come out now and are fully, they're doing, they're ringing the centrist warning bell about the midterms and being like, do not go down the abolish ice road.

Rhetorically, it's a loser, despite the polling that says, completely contradicts what you're saying. They are now, they are now going for it. This is the thing that we need. This is the safe bet for Democrats who want to keep, who want to hold on to the law enforcement mantle, as they say. is that it's about reform and retrain ice. That's what you should be saying.

Holy fuck. Really? Really? Yeah. Kamala Harris had that had that ad that was, you know, that she would invest more in ice. And that Donald Trump was like, Donald Trump opposes investing. Like he opposed spending more on ice. And that was a winner.

Wait, sorry, I blacked out the election. but that she did well, right? That worked well? Yeah, she narrowly didn't win. And overall, the last time when everyone was like, God, anyone but Trump, let's get out of this situation. And they went with like the least left way, like the most centrist candidate who just was basically like,

we'll do things like the Democratic Party has always done. That went well, right? Yeah. That is not the exact reason we're in this situation right now is that we keep. It's so fucking wild. I have to remind people that in 2017, ICE itself wrote a letter to Kirsten Nijilson, Kjirsten Jirsten Jilson, if you remember her name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And said, look, can you actually dissolve ice?

Because we're having a hard time doing our actual jobs, which is to go after actual criminals, the few that exist, The undocumented community commits far less crime than people who have papers in this country, of course. Because, you know, we're having a hard time with our intel and our investigations because nobody wants to talk to us because we're lumped in with, you know, a broader crackdown on immigrants. And we're asked to be, we're asked to do a workplace raids versus, you know, going after drug traffickers or human traffickers or whomever the fuck else. So like ICE itself is asked to be abolished. Let's also remember Jonathan Ross, the guy who killed Renee Good, has been in ICE since 2007. This is not a flash in the pan hire. This is someone who is a career ICE officer.

So this is nothing to do about your tenure or about your training. It has to do with the very institution itself. It is fucking useless. You can have an institution that goes after criminals, then also an INS that processes people, that is well funded, that, you know, processes for, you know, asylum and all of this. But, like, there is no Democrat that should be standing on this shit. And look, I mean, even John Favre last year, after Kamalaer's lost, he's saying, I'm quite comfortable morally and politically with the position that Dem presidential candidates

shouldn't let voters believe they want to defund the police, abolish ICE, decriminalize border crossings, or provide transition surgeries for undocumented immigrants. You got to have an abundance. mentality, Francesca. We shouldn't let voters believe they want. Like, you hear the, the fucking A, B, testing, in that sentence, it's so despicable. No, voters want someone who stands on business, who is morally, like, actually puts their, you know, mouth where their morals are and, you know, says, nah, this is wrong. This is un-American. This is illegal. Yeah, everything they're proposing is like so offensive. Like in the reform part, again, you can't reform a group that's hell bent on terrorizing, like people of color. That's pretty much what it is. But they're like, oh, we got to say no masks, okay?

Yes. No one is above the law. No shit. These are just like broadly accepted principles on like how we should, a society should operate. So like this has nothing like fucking miss me with this. Then with like the retrain, the same shit that we saw with police. seeing in 2020, it's like, identify and weed out the bad apples. Yeah.

Yep, yep. We're still doing this, not realizing that most people look at the fucking tree that the fruit is on. It's like, bro, hack the fucking tree down. Burn the roots to the ground. I mean, this is the same shit where it's like you're going to be sold on, hey, ice would be okay if they don't wear face coverings. Right, exactly.

This, like, this, the mask, exactly, the body cam situation. And it's like, obviously, these were never the solutions. And everything we let fester and never addressed from the Black Lives Matter uprisings, you know, and all of police unaccountability, that's been turbocharged with ice. And so this is about Democrats never actually listening to their base. And again, to the nuisance point, because, you know, they don't believe in people. They don't fucking care about their voters. Right.

Yeah. And they don't care about their small dollar donations. They can take a hike with your small dollar donations. They want that billionaire cash and they don't want to have to work. I think, yeah, because I think at its core you realize, too, that the establishment of both parties is still just so inherently so white supremacist in their, like, ideology. Because in 2016, they did the same thing. It's like, we've got to go hard on immigrants, I think, to, like, win this. And they're like, okay, okay.

Because Trump is going hard on immigrants. So we got to do that too. 2024. For some reason. 2024, you got to go kind of hard on immigrants. All right, all right. Yeah, yeah, I'll do that. I'll do that.

I'll do that even though my own family, I come from a family of immigrants. Okay. But I've said nice thing about immigrants before. So I need to get the co-sign of Dick Cheney and his family. That's the only, yeah. I mean, the Kamala Harris Town Hall, I think it was in Nevada, was one of the most.

I mean, just disgusting displays of like a two-faced politician who was literally hearing people cry, you know, begging her to do something. And she was, you know, echoing these, there's a right way and a wrong way and law enforcement and on and on and on. And we're just begging someone to fucking say, no one is illegal human rights overall. It's crazy because it's so it's right there on the ground for somebody to pick up. Yes. And really do something that will capture a lot of people's attention. Because this isn't all of the media be like, this person's popular in a shocking turn of events. This person is politically popular.

Zoran did that. The guy's learning all kinds of languages so we can talk to different immigrant communities. You know, and it's just like he has, he's the evidence right there. And I know people are like, oh, it's a blue state. But no, man, he won in. that went to Trump. Yeah. Yeah.

And I will say. So we've a lot of good arguments here. I will say. So there is, if Peter Thiel leaves the state of California, who is there, there is a job that can't be replaced. And that is somebody who is going to deliver lectures on the Antichrist, who is himself the Antichrist? Yeah. Like, how are you going to?

And we have a special tax loophole. in this state for that. For anti-Christ. For lecturing antichrist. Check this box if you're the antichrist. Yes. There's only one of those, as far as I know. It's based on what his lectures.

Oh, so you're monotheistic that there's only one antichrist. Yeah. And then when Greta Toonberg visits. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, sounds good, feels good. Feels good.

It feels like we're in good position. We deserve better, folks. We deserve better. I think that's the bottom line because I was when people always are like, they're like, why do you hate the like this party? Why do you hate this Democrat person? I'm like, I don't hate them. What I'm saying is we deserve so much better. And we, the times we are in are so dire that we truly need to have our filters up to weed out people who will not help in the with the same level of intensity that is needed for the moment. And we're not helping now. What do you think is going to change? Well, this is the thing is like, you know, I get people. saying like, now is not the time. Now is not the time. Like, okay, cool. So are you comfortable after Gavin Newsom wins a one-term presidency

for a Tucker Carlson slash Nick Fuentes ticket to fucking win? Like, are you, you're down with that? Because I don't want that. I don't, I want to end fascism. That person to you would say, I don't know who those people are, and I'm sure they're fine. Right. Right. Oh, God. Francesca, such a pleasure having you, as always, on our show.

Always a good time. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Find me at Frannie F-O-F-R-A-N-I-F-I-O on YouTube and Twitch even and all the socials. Listen to the Bituation Room podcast, Tuesdays, 1 p.m. Pacific, 4 p.m. Eastern. And yeah. Amazing. Oh, oh, oh, oh. If you're in the Pasadena or Los Angeles area, come see me on Saturday night, January 24th for my show, New World Disorder, which is a stand-up comedy show, vaguely political, lots of fun.

Great lineup. Amazing. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? I sent a link. I wonder if you could bring it up. The Homegirl. Did you see this already? Yeah, this is amazing.

You want to set this clip up? Oh, she sets it up great. This is in Minneapolis, which is still being under attack, or is still under attack. And here is a woman recording herself, because she meets Greg Bovino outside of a Speedway, who is the head of Border Patrol. Hey fam, I was in Minneapolis, and look, we just stumbled upon Greg Bovino at a fucking speedway for a pre-Hague photo shoot.

So, good for him, I guess. For those following along at home, I have nothing against short men, but I do just have to report back there is about a four-in height difference. Do you want to get closer so they can see? Oh, no, sure. A little higher than way. Still not the same.

So, Greg, you're standing right there in front of me, but to everyone following along at home, I hope you fucking eat shit I hope this keeps you up at night for the rest of your life and no one fucking wants you here Oh fantastic language There's children in here

And your fucking vehicle asshole choke Wow Your fucking vehicle asshole There's children in here Shoke like oh so good Oh the fantastic language I love her so much

And I can sort of see she's kind of like shaking Because like the anger And I feel that shit like Yeah I would be doing the same thing because he's right there in front of you. We've got to film this moment. Watch.

Gavin Newsom is going to fucking pick this up. And he'll be like, hey guys, I'm out here. Just came upon Greg Bovino. He's tiny. Folks. Look how tall I am.

He agreed to come on my podcast. What is it? Anyway, Greg, you coming over? Here's Gavin. Yeah. Hey, Greg, you're coming over for dinner later, right? Okay, great, great, great.

Yeah, perfect. I love Joe Rogan, man. I love it. Miles, where can people find you? Is there working media? been enjoying. Yeah, you can find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. You can find me chatting shit about the world of English soccer, European football at large on Ain't It Footy with Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin and also 420 Day Fiancee still rolling on. A work like, yeah,

there was a good post I saw on the sky. Where is it? Here it is. This is Parker Malloy, a quote tweeting this Tony DeCopal like fucking tweet that came out where he said Tony DeCopal that the new CBS Nightly News anchor. Is that how you pronounce the last name? I have not cared enough to learn. I've heard, I've had to hear him introduce himself so many times now that I know it's

Dakota DeCobo. Yeah, DeCopal. He said, you may not agree with everything you hear on our broadcast, but we trust you to hear it. And we trust you to decide for yourselves. And the response was, has been reading this over and over

and can for the life of me understand what he's even trying to say. This is a lot of words to say nothing. And then at Mobius Stripper.B.Skyd a social posted, at least Obama's hypothetical death panels would have decided who deserve to die based on a rubric more complicated than did they just piss off a high school dropout armed by the state?

You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien, Blue Sky, Jack O'B1. I like to tweet from small Marsupon Pige at Teeth Feel Weird on Twitter told my sister he had a rivalry was about closeted hockey players and she said

why don't they want people to know they play hockey which I thought was cute and then Chop to Unc Crisis hotline at you wouldn't post retweeted this right-wing person CJ Engels saying

tonight at family dinner my three-year-old asked Dad how can we help ice what can we do to make sure all non-Americans are sent back to their real homes. We just want our country back. It was powerful. The simple mind of a child can be profound. The deportations are for them. And he just said, recreating lib cringe from first principles, this movement is finished. They're doing the liberal death. My three-year-old turned to me and said, Mommy, Hillary Clinton has put up with so

much over the course of her career. Was that actually a tweet that I missed during the time. Oh yeah. There were just a lot of early lib tweets they were like about like the mind of a child. My three year old said this quote from Dostoyesky. I have a three year old and there's no fucking way. Not a chance. A three year old says princesses don't wear pants. My kid is about to be three. Can't even say because or he says cabuz. Cabuz is great. Cabuz is much better than because. I'm like, well how did you get out of this paint? He's like, cabuz. I have. Cabuzz. Cabuzz Hillary Clinton is a very salient point.

That's right. Cabuzz Hillary. Cabus Hillary. You can find us on Twitter on Blue Sky at Daily Zichai's. We're at The Daily Zikeyes. On Instagram, you can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it, and there at the bottom, you will find the footnotes.

For note. Which is where we link off to the information we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think that people might enjoy? Yes. This is an old hip hop track, but I was thinking about it because on Aynette Footy, you know, I'm obviously from L.A. Jamel's from D.C. Chris is from London. And so a lot of the times we're putting him on, especially to like black culture, because we were talking about like a conk hairstyle. I didn't know what a conk was.

And then we were, I was whispering this part from, knock yourself out by Jada Kiss. And we had to explain this track to Chris Martin. And again, I think it's just a wonderful, nostalgic track for me with Peak Neptune's production is Jada Kiss with Knock Yourself out. Will you model him, Ma? That's a great song. All right, we will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zika is a production of IHeartRadio for more podcasts from IHeartRadio.

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