The Daily Zeitgeist - Where Are The Cat Nipples? Delaney: OUT 7.22.19

Episode Date: July 22, 2019

In episode 437, Miles and special guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by comedian Kenny DeForest to discuss the Cats musical film trailer, Trump selling plastic straws on his website, John Delaney's staff asking him to drop out of 2020 presidential race, the protests in Puerto Rico, the problem with privacy and FaceApp, Jamie's trip to the MENSA convention, the Lou Perlman biopic, Netflix not doing well, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. CATS - Official Trailer [HD]2. Now Trump Is Selling Overpriced Straws To Thirsty Fans Just To Own The Libs3. WATCH: John Delaney Booed By California Democrats After Criticizing Universal Healthcare4. Report: John Delaney's team asks him to drop out of 2020 race5. Tear Gas Fired at Puerto Rico Protesters Amid Calls for Governor’s Resignation6. Motorcyclists descend on Puerto Rican capital, call for Gov. Ricardo Rosselló to resign7. FaceApp security concerns: Russians now own all your old photos8. High Cost of Aging? FaceApp Users Give Russian Developer ‘Perpetual’ License to Their Photos9. FaceApp: Chuck Schumer asks for FBI investigation10. Is FaceApp an evil plot by 'the Russians' to steal your data? Not quite11. The FaceApp Furor Was Never About Privacy - It Was About Russia12. Boy band svengali and convicted fraudster Lou Pearlman getting the biopic treatment13. Mad About the Boys14. Netflix CEO Reed Hastings may have missed the real reason why U.S. subscriber numbers plunged15. WATCH: Y La Bamba - Something Wild Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Episode 1 of the Daily Zeitgeist production of iHeart Radio. It's the podcast where, you know, we take a look into America's putrid skull, and look in that old, weird subconsciousness, regular consciousness, and off the rip. Just say fuck coke industries and fuck Fox News. It is Monday, July 22nd, 2019. Miles, it's brave.

I just wanted to applaud your bravery. He's just interrupting my whole AKA. My name is Miles Gray, AKA. He's just interrupting my whole AKA. My name is Miles Gray, AKA. Our pod is an awesome pod. Hot takes from heaven above with Jack and Miles with love. Our pod is an awesome pod. Oh, wow.

Thank you to at Crispy Meem Donut. Christy Yamaguchi made. I was sort of, I know I wasn't tagged in this, a.k.a., but I love this hymn. And I said, you know what? I'm stealing it. That's one of my favorite songs from Vacation Bible School. You ever go there? No.

Vacation Bible School was the school I pretty much went to from K to 8. Oh, shit. So what else do you want to do? You know Eagle's Wings? I like, you know, All God's Critters? No. Oh, shit. So what else do you want to do? We, uh... You know Eagle's Wings? I like, uh, you know All God's Critters? No. Oh, shit. That one's fun.

Well, hold on. Allow me to introduce you first, and then we can go to Bible Lint. I wanted to sing. Um, guess who that is? That's my guest host, as usual. Uh, co-host, Jami Lofty. Okay. Oh, no.

Okay. I'm gonna, I would like to remind everyone that I brought the Renner song first. Yeah, you did. She's got Zambonis that'll make your snow clean. Oh, she hacks like Jack the Climber and Halle Berry. All I remember, she grew up with a back brace, then she moved to L.A. The girl who hacks whose dog is fashe. Loft is the host, J. May.

Thank you so much. Loft is the host, J. May. That was a... So I'm ridiculous, but I gotta tell you. That was a Hannah Soltis original. Genius. I asked, and she really delivered in a big way. The Vacation Bible School song I was thinking about is

All God's Critters Got a Place in the Choir. Some sing low, some sing high, or some sing out loud on the telephone wire. Do you know Jesus sits on the road and he cries? Geez. Oh, it's actually. What? Well, first, it's actually, well, first it's actually blind man. And then eventually you get to Jesus. So blind man sits on the road and he cries.

Blind man sits on the road and he cries. Blind man sits on the road and he cries. He cries, whoa, show me the way. Sounds like a Tenacious D song. No, and then it goes into, and then they'll be like, okay, now No and then it goes into And then they'll be like Okay now Jesus Jesus And then they'll be like

Now we all And then you're like We all But the Jesus part It changed because he says I am the way I am the truth Follow me home

And then at the end We would go Jesus Was the last note That you would hit Yeah Drop the bomb for Jesus One time

Jesus This has slowly become A weird like was the last note that you would hit. Yeah. Drop the bomb for Jesus one time. This has slowly become a weird, like, dirtbag evangelical podcast. Fair. So. Oh, that's the next permutation of the hideous podcasting community. Dirtbag evangelism? The dirtbag evangelist laugh.

Well, we are thrilled to be joined by our hilarious guest, a man with sneaker taste that is impeccable in second to none. Oh, my goodness. Please welcome the hilarious Kenny DeForest. Thank you. That's my best credit yet. To date?

Impeccable sneaker taste. Wow. Yeah, thank you very much for that. How long have you been a sneaker head, man? I guess for a while. I always like to have good basketball shoes and a hoop in. Oh, so you like to hoop in and keep. I always have three or four at a time, and that's it.

And I wear them all. And then once they're done, I get three or four new ones. I don't have a full closet. You beat them down. Yeah, exactly. I like that. Well, Kenny, we're going to get to know you a little bit more. But first, what are we going to do?

Let's, I guess, tell people what the fuck was going on in this show today. First, we're going to talk about that Cats trailer and their reactions. They're very mixed. If you don't have a take, you can be publicly... Flayed. Yeah, you can be slapped in the street. Sent to the stocks, as it were. Also, a new Trump grift, a really cool merch that's coming out of the campaign.

Really, really good value for your money that I'm sure everyone will want to buy. Also, old white man told to drop out of race by own people. Wow. We'll get into that. Could be almost anyone. Could be anyone. Could be anyone in the Democratic primary, but we'll tell you who and why. We're going to talk about Ricardo Rossellóllo the governor of puerto rico and my man

they are the people have had it uh they want him to go ever since you know these fucking weird text messages or those group chats leaked with a lot of fucking weird shit or actually not weird problematic uh homophobic misogynistic uh bs also a little discussion about FaceApp because at first we were talking about, look, you know, sure, the Russians own it or whatever. Someone, a Russian company developed it. But I think maybe our focus is a little

misplaced on just this one sliver of an app when you think about all the motherfucking apps. If you think about the surveillance state, yeah, I'm putting on my little tin hat for that section. But that's a good distraction, you know? Let's talk about that rather than the real privacy concerns in the tech industry. Also, maybe Jamie, little Jamie will give us a Mensa update.

Yeah, I got some updates. You did go to the MensaCon, MenCon, I believe it's called. Yeah, it is called MenCon 2019. MenCon Women. It's called Mensa Annual Gathering Mensa Rising is what it was called. Mensa Rising. Okay, so we'll get a little tea report from that. Also, another story that Jamie really want to talk about.

The Lou Pearlman biopic. I really want to talk about the Lou Pearlman biopic. I'm for your energy about this story so we talking about it also netflix not doing too well and i think we know why maybe we don't but we'll have to discuss yeah but first kenny what is something from your search history that's going to tell people what you're about um so i wrote down uh the three most recent because i figured the most recent is telling and then one that i think is more interesting i guess okay well hit me with the three because I figure the most recent is telling. And then the one that I think is more interesting, I guess. Okay, well, hit me with the three.

The three, the most recent was Fear and Loathing, because I'm doing a tour in the fall. And I'm partnering with a friend of mine who's an artist, and we're doing posters. And we're going to come up with a cool poster for the tour. And I was thinking Fear and Joking on a trip through the South or something. So I was looking for ideas but that's not you know that's just like that's just my work that's not exciting but you like is there an art

aesthetic that you like especially is that you meant like the yeah he's like Hunter S. Thompson's drawings basically that were like yeah you're right the guy who came up with Gonzo I can't remember his name he's an artist but he that whole style yeah yeah it's like they were kind of partnered on that. And I have a friend I grew up with that's a really talented artist.

Dope. Art by Frenchie on Instagram. Shout out to him. Oh, wow. How many followers? Oh, is it Ralph Stedman, right? That's the artist we're thinking of? Yes.

I think you're thinking of Stedman Graham, who was with Oprah Winfrey. Oh, I made a calendar of Stedman Graham once. That's right. That's for another day. That's for another day. We'll switch out one of the news stories to talk about that. Yeah. Nice.

And what are the three random ones? Well, and then I Googled Subaru because I drive a Subaru and I have to get it worked on, but that's not exciting. But then the third one, I do think it kind of tells you a little bit about me, which is I was looking up go bags, getting ready to- Oh, yeah. What is that? For like if the big one happens, it's your backpack that has your essentials. Everything.

If you got to get out of LA, this will keep you alive for like three to five days. It's like survivalist stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, just preparedness in general. Preparedness, yeah. Because what do you do if like the water goes poison and the zombies come out?

Damn, okay. Yeah, you got to be ready. Is this a thing now? Should I have one? Do you have an earthquake preparedness kit? No, no, no, no, no. Oh ready you know is this a thing now should i have one do you have an earthquake preparedness kit no no no no no oh you should yeah i really high because you live in the devil's butt crack that's waiting to explode at any moment yeah no i can't wait to be swallowed into the devil's butt crack someday yeah we call the san andreas fault man what we call it the looks call it the devil's butt crack um okay what's overrated kenny uh man

perfect pivot living in new york city holy shit i thought i loved it and then i left it and i realized that there are other places that you can live and uh no i didn't grow up there i uh i grew up in the midwest and i did that thing where i was like certainly certainly New York city is better. Right. And it is a, it's a, it's really cool place, man. But living there is just, it's so bad that this, I moved to a place that is always cracking open and on fire. And I was like, this is so much better. You know, like I would rather burn to death. We're watching those subway videos that have been leaking out about all the water that's just been going into the subway stations it's like it's i mean it really is it's mad it's like the most people that have congregated in one place in this country have done so on a small island with no plan and

it's just no plan and more people keep coming yeah there's not even a trash removal plan that is remotely like you just stack your trash on the corner that's the best they've come up with there's not even dumpsters they're like oops trash day put your loose bags of garbage in this pile yeah make sure it's rat feeding season so everybody oh yeah how often do rats just tear the fuck out of those trash piles it just it's constant i used to walk dogs and they would they would constantly get like chicken bones stuck in their throat, and that's bad for dogs. And people would be like, what did you do? I'm like, they're just everywhere.

Yeah, every day's trash day. It's either rats are picking the bones out, or it's just everyone in New York City thinks they're a king, and just every time they finish a chicken wing, they just toss it. How long were you in New York for? Five and a half years. And then when did you, at what point did you start to get tired of it? Probably day three. No, it's just like,

it's just, you don't even have central air. I got a friend who was on a popular TV show and she didn't have control of the temperature of her own dwelling. Wow. You know what I mean? It's just like, you know, I kind of thought once you were on a network show, you could decide how

warm it is when you go to bed. But it's no. It is crazy. My best friend works at Columbia and has a salary in health insurance. She's very lucky, but still is boiling alive in her house. Oh, really?

In her two-by-two-foot room. See? And when you come to hell, we already AC'd the fuck out of everything. Yeah. You know what I mean? So welcome to hell. Man. I love it here.

I, Beezlebub, welcome you. Blunt in hand, welcome to California. Welcome to my butt crack. Welcome to my beat crack. I am Beelzebub California. Welcome to my butt crack. Welcome to my beat crack. I'm Beelzebub and welcome to my butt crack. What is something that's underrated? Men.

Men? Yeah, men. I'm a men's rights activist. Surprise! I tricked Anna. Now debate me, coward. To Jamie. Debate me, Jamie. You think you're so smart with your Mensa? Debate an, coward. To Jamie. Debate me, Jamie. You think you're so smart with your Mensa? Debate an average man.

Yeah, but to own you with facts and logic. I care about my feelings. You referenced a tinfoil hat. I think what's underrated is what I used to think were really crazy conspiracy theories. I've had friends that have been telling me for years that all the world's elite are pedophiles and i was like that sounds crazy but maybe they were right this whole time oh yeah looking at these lists you're like huh i'm like man that is that is everyone you told me was a pedophile like i've been i've been told that like i've been told crazy things about bill clinton my

whole life but i thought it was just because I grew up in a red state. Yeah, I mean, God. See, that's why this whole Jeffrey Epstein thing, I bring it all out. I want to see it all. We need to get to the bottom of this shit. That is the funny thing is you're seeing a lot of more right-leaning people that are like, well, what about when one of your people comes out? And everyone's like yeah please yeah

take them all the fires are being stoked and ready yeah and it's in like every area of rich people too every genre of rich like there if you haven't seen an open secret have you guys seen an open secret that's the documentary from a couple years ago by amy about Hollywood-specific pedophiles, and it couldn't get a theatrical release, really, because it was such a controversial subject. Oh, shit, I gotta see that. She's an Oscar-winning director, and she couldn't get it released. Right, right, right.

But it's so prevalent. I mean, we're talking Perlman today. Yeah. It's everywhere. This is like Abuseville, too. It is, yeah. Especially the carrot of fame is used to just manipulate the fuck out of people. I still am just like, how is Dan Schneider not in jail?

There's so many people who belong in jail and they're not. Damn. It's coming. It's coming, maybe. It's coming. Yeah. I mean, it's coming out and it's just like, I feel like a lot of things are just coming to the surface.

That's why everything's so crazy. Yeah. It's just like, we're at the, the cauldron is bubbling. It's reached peak boil and we're just like all standing around like, oh God, it's going to's so crazy. It's just like we're at the cauldron is bubbling. It's reached peak boil, and we're just like all standing around like, oh, God, it's going to blow. The devil's butt crack is throbbing. The devil's balloon knots inside out. I can tell, man.

The devil's windsock. Now, what is a myth? What's something that you – I forget how jack words it but what's a myth man what's a myth you could just bust uh okay so this kind of blew my mind and it's kind of a string of thought that leads to a couple quotes that we've been misusing for years as a so my girl and i were kind of talking about this whole basic idea that uh millennials are like ungrateful or lazy and we were just talking about how really it's more that we're so inundated with options that no one can feel contentment because it's just we're so constantly aware of what we don't have

or what the other thing we could be doing. Like my grandparents had a beautiful marriage. They were married for like 65 years. But it's also like- That's a myth. She was just- 65. Yeah, what if that was my

myth i would like to break the myth that my grandparents had a good yeah it's like a very petty it's like whoa is this a thanksgiving conversation i mean any grandparents courting story is the scariest thing i've ever heard oh yeah my my grandparents met via my grandfather cat calling my grandfather in a parking lot yeah she was she was she had like a much younger sibling she was like well you know walking the baby around she's a teenager and my grandfather tailgated her pulled up to her it was like hey that your baby and then they were married for 500 years hey that your baby yo that your baby yo ma that's your baby that's your baby? That's your baby. He's like, no. Hop in. No, what are you doing this weekend? Because you're looking dumb thing. Wow.

Okay, so go on. Oh, yeah. Well, it was just, we were just talking about this, like, also my, they didn't have, like, Facebook, you know, where all of a sudden that girl that you kind of missed with in high school hits you up 20 years later. Like, I've been thinking about you. Right. Like, he didn't have to deal with any of that shit. She didn't have to deal with any of that shit.

Options are limited. So limited so anyway we were just talking about like there's all these quotes that we've just been misusing and honestly to the opposite effect so like for instance did you know blood is thicker than water the full saying is actually the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb which basically means the opposite so it's basically the bonds that you choose to make mean much more than the bonds that you're born into but we literally say it like blood is thick in the water like yeah like blood over everything yeah blood over everything but it's really like because your friends will adapt with you it flows more like water so like blood blood is slower to

move so your family's not going to change so you create your own family that's like-minded and you guys are not moving like a hive so it's actually like an insult to say blood is thicker than water exactly wow and we've been saying it like that for years yeah that's so and then the other one is uh they say jack of all trades master of none right which is like if you focus on a bunch of things you won't be great at anything but the full saying is jack of all trades master of none but maybe that's better than a master of one so basically a jack of all trades would beat a master at most things because a master is only good at one thing so if you're good at 10 things you're gonna beat the master at nine things yo this is a thank, that's, man. Wow. Smiling. Now I can fucking be like, fuck you, family. Yeah.

I'm like, the next person to call me a multi-hyphenate is Kenny. You don't fucking get the origin, homie. Fuck you. You don't know the end of the phrase. Oh, you're just a master at Super Smash Brothers. Okay. I'm a little bit good at many other things as well. Hell yeah.

Okay, that was empowering. That was amazing. Yeah, that was a fucking... I just wanted to share that feeling with you. Motherfucking paradigm shift. Yeah. I think we need a new drop for paradigm shifts.

Shift into paradigm. Just go in the lab and marinate on that. That's what those earthquakes were, baby. It was just the paradigm shifting. See, the devil's butt provides. And it giveth and marinate on that. That's what those earthquakes were, baby. It was just the paradigm shifting. See, the devil's butt provides. And it giveth and it taketh away.

So, moving on, giveth, actually. We were givethed the trailer for Cats. The movie, or the fucking classic musical turned into the movie.

And people, I don't understand why people are so fucking angry about this. People had furious takes about this movie one way or another. I don't know. The main thing I don't understand is, first of all, I'm so excited for this movie. Sure. I really hope it's good. I hope it makes a million billion dollars and then we get a bunch of fucking weird movies. I feel like that would be the greatest

thing in the world. There hasn't been a great musical to screen adaptation in over 10 years. What was the last one you say is good? Chicago? I think Chicago was the... Chicago and Moulin Rouge were peak and then there was a bunch of imitators and... Moulin Rouge, was that a

stage musical? No, but that was a big musical spectacle. And they tried to make it happen with Phantom of the Opera. They tried to make it happen with Nine. Maybe Across the Universe? Oh, yeah. That was good. I never saw that one.

Yeah, it was good. Was it good? Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, I feel like the Beatles. And we know Yesterday just came out, a classic. Yeah. I really do want to see Yesterday because I want to just make fun of something. But, I mean, it looks, my confusion about people being like, the cats look scary is like, have you ever seen a picture of the musical that they're supposed to look scary?

It was funny, though. Some of the takes were like showing stills and they're like, this looks like deep fakes. It does look like deep fakes. I was like maybe so much internet criticism too is when people are just like why is it this is the way i i want it to be sure and then but this one seemed like a few comics made fun of it and then the like prevailing sentiment on the internet became like sort of like ha ha ha let's make fun of this shit because a lot of it just seems like a lot of people just making fun of it.

I don't think I've read sincerely angry ones. No. You know? Shout out to Jaboukie, who got banned, suspended from Twitter momentarily from basically pretending his account was the cat's one. I loved it. What did he say? Like, the penises in the movie will also be spiked?

Yeah, they're going to have realistic spiked penises. Yeah, look, I think it's going to be an event. I'm psyched, man. I can't wait. A lot of people were mad about this. I read someone, like a tweet, that people didn't like where the tails were. I mean, this is insane. What the fuck does that even mean?

This is truly a waste of energy. You know what's also crazy is it's the same energy that people tweet about, like, camps at the border. You know that even mean? This is truly... Literally, we're getting... It's a waste of energy. You know what's also crazy? It's the same energy that people tweet about like camps at the border. You know what I mean? It's like the same level of... Like, the tails are a little high. Right.

There's kids in cages. Yeah. The world's falling apart. And there's no Mooshu in Mulan. It is... Yeah, I'm psyched on cats. We've been... Bechtelcast has been getting a million tweets Because in most of our episodes

Caitlin does a segment called cat facts Where she just restates that cats Generally have eight nipples Generally And we are not seeing any nipples on these cats But we are seeing big naturals We're seeing big two regular titties Two regular ass titties on these cats

We're seeing big naturals no nipples Which I think is a wild creative decision. It could be buried under the fur. This is what we call a reverse Schumacher, is there's no nipples. Reverse shoe. Where there should be nipples. Yeah. Do you think they're under the fur?

Like a cat's nipples don't just hang out the fur. I hope there's a scene where they go bloop and they just kind of come out. You know? I mean, cats is fun. Cats cats is fun if you don't know about jellicle cats you have to educate yourself go to a community theater production and just and just really like assault your eyes with a production of cats i mean the cast looks fine people like i i guess i mean i'm i think jay hud is gonna fucking just hold it the fuck down. Oh, my God. I mean, her memory solo is beautiful.

You're going to love it. But I guess I'm a little bit agnostic when it comes to it because I'm like, okay, cool. But I'm also not like, I have to go see that. I'm not a huge musicals person. I do have to go see it because I don't know. I do have to go see it because I don't know. I just think it's way better that a movie like this is happening than one of the five bajillion Disney remakes. I am 900 times more excited to see Cats than I am to see any of the Disney remakes.

Live action ones? Yeah. Have you seen Leon King yet? No, I haven't seen it yet. I will see it, but everything I read about it is like, it's beautiful, but it's Uncanny Valley. And I've seen this movie before, and it's like, yeah. Right.

I have seen this somewhere. This will be the first Disney remake that I see in theaters. I haven't gone to any yet. Will you see The Little Mermaid? I'll definitely see The Little Mermaid. I love. Will you see The Little Mermaid? I'll definitely see The Little Mermaid. I love. I will see The Little Mermaid. I have to see Lion King because I saw Midsommar twice. I have to offset this by three.

You were in a place. That was a choice. Well, I saw it first to scare myself before I went to Mensa. And then I saw it again because I have a crush on Will Poulter. And now I need to stop seeing him. Shout out Will Poulter. He's an Arsenal fan. He's a gooner.

So respect to him. Okay, we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.

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Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.

Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her.

What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports

on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history, people are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.

I ain't really hear them, boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically

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we were going to come back from that commercial break. I'm glad we all had a break. Yeah, okay, so there's a new grift in Trump world. we were going to come back from that commercial break. I'm glad we all had a good break. Yeah. Okay, so there's a new grift in Trump world. If you go to the Donald J. Trump website, you know, where they sell fucking campaign garbage. Which is not already your home screen. Yes, thank you.

Please, we will include a link in the footnotes for you to just click it and it will change your landing page to DonaldJTrump.com or shop.donaldj trump.com um this new fucking product is just a pack of 10 plastic straws it says liberal paper straws don't work stand with president, all caps, and buy your pack of recyclable straws today. Oh. It's like, look, I get it. You almost respect it. You know, that's the thing about him is this is so, I mean, he's trolling everybody, including his own people.

Well, it's not like he's deciding. Like the weird, you know, fucking 4chan goons were like, yeah, I got some merch ideas. This is a good one. Let's own the libs with plastic straws. Wiping out the turtles to own the libs. Yeah. I mean, it's odd that too, when they're talking about like, okay, liberal paper straws.

Liberal paper straws. So then the answer is that you're pushing back against being liberal. So then the answer is that you're pushing back against being liberal. Yet when you look at the description, it's like BPA-free, reusable, and recyclable. So it's like, okay, so then are you saying that matters to the consumer in the same way that people who would not be down with one-time-use plastics are? It's all over the place it happened like i remember seeing this thing where i don't remember who it was but some republican congressperson was like the republicans are going to come up with a plan to combat climate change just don't talk to us about the green new deal but it's like okay wait a minute so now climate change is real i thought it i thought the angle was that it wasn't and now that we're talking green new deal you're like all right we'll find our own solution to fix it it's

like fix i thought it was didn't need to be fixed what are we talking about yeah failed troll too because they're like by making it like biodegradable plastic i'm like okay yeah just recyclable it's just recyclable one of one is i just want to underline that okay okay you know what i rescind okay great i do also want to underline this it costs you get ten dollars ten straws for fifteen dollars ten fucking red straws shipping that say trump on it plus shipping you can buy one thousand fucking plastic straws for ten dollars so that's 150 time 150 markup or 150k x markup, I don't like paper straws either. Okay? Yeah. This is so stupid.

This is just... But you know what? Oh, yeah. Man, people will literally just go broke buying this shit in the weird culture war where they think that... It's expensive. It's like sometimes we need to stop and say, do we deserve to keep going?

Does our species really... we act like it's like we're killing ourselves maybe that's what's supposed to yeah right right i mean do you remember this was a couple years ago maybe about a decade ago but uh sun chips had like the biodegradable bag like fully biodegradable oh yeah they came out it was fully biodegradable but i'm not kidding that shit like but get this so this is hilarious they discontinued it and I'm not kidding you it's because people were calling and complaining

that the bag was too loud. I remember that yeah. They were like the bag's too loud it crinkles too much and I don't like it I can't eat my chips

in a library and The bag was too loud Too loud Like it was so rigid that it was like Yeah and people were like no can do I'll eat Doritos Yeah And the bag was too loud. Too loud. Like it was so rigid that it was like. Yeah. And people were like, no, no can do.

I'll eat Doritos. Yeah. And so they, so they re-released the non-biodegradable bag and people were like, thank you. It's made of Mylar. I like to eat my chips in silence. Right. Sun chip is also the loudest chip anyways. If you're engaging with sun chips, you've, you know, people see you and they know it's a loud chip.

Do you consciously buy SunChips? Intentionally? No, no. Are you anti-SunChip? Are you trying to back me into a corner? Debate me on it. Debate me, you coward. Debate me, you coward, on the validity of SunChips.

I forgot about that SunChips thing. That was, yeah. This is, ugh. I used to, I remember my mom, when we would go to Subway when I was a kid, she wouldn't let me get Doritos, but the Sunchip in her mind was fine. So that's, for a while when I would get my tuna sandwich as a kid, I would only get the French onion or harvest cheddar or whatever. What the fuck is harvest cheddar?

Whatever. Just add the cool modifiers that make you feel like it's, you know, rustic. Yeah. I do appreciate when when blatantly unhealthy things have branded themselves as healthy, and my mom falls for it. Right, it's like what says sun. Yeah.

It's the sun. They're like, these chips can grow on a tree in the sun, and that's beautiful. What's the first ingredient? It's some 14-syllable chemical compound. I don't know how to pronounce it, but fine. Well, good luck to everybody who bought their red Trump straw.

I'm sure you will own the libs when they see you using a red straw that from far away looks like it's a Slurpee straw from 7-Eleven. Yeah, if you're ordering 15 straws for $10 on the internet, I'm sure paper straws are your biggest problem.

Yeah. And if you do that, don't tell me anything about fucking fiscal responsibility either. Uh if you do that, don't tell me anything about fucking fiscal responsibility either. That's fine. 150 times markup. Good, good, good. Next up, man.

Yes. Oh, John Delaney. It be your own, as we say on the Daily Zeitgeist every day. And presidential hopeful number 4,458,999 John Delaney has reportedly been told by his own fucking staff to sit the fuck down this is what axios is reporting they say on july 9th john delaney's senior team uh sat him down and told him to drop out of the presidential race by mid-august

and this is they had three sources okay? First, they thought he flopped at the first debate in Miami. Quote, there was no real breakout moment, which is what everyone in leadership had been hoping for. Next, every other day

he would have a different position, whether on economic policies or racial issues. And apparently that was a common theme that came up with the sources that this journalist spoke with.

Then, they said, some said he's not spending enough money to run a competitive race. That all the money he's spent so far hasn't moved the needle for them. Because he's like, I think he got like custom straws. Did the straw strategy not work? I don't think so. I can't believe it.

He just thought like, hey, we'll do a collab with Bagu for reusable shopping bags. They call them Laney straws. Laney? Fuck. Another one said collab with bagu for reusable shopping bags they call them laney straws laney fuck uh another one said uh he'd better be he'd be better positioned to run for governor or get a cabinet position if he drops out before september okay that makes sense one of the other themes that came out through all of these sort of interviews was everyone wanted to make sure that they got this point out that he is quote genuinely a likable guy're like, this guy's actually a really nice guy,

even though all this other shit, we want you to know he's V-nice. But they say they describe him as the most Republican Democrat who's just, quote, not made for the moment. And I was like, yeah, that does make sense because when he addressed the California Democratic Convention,

his takes were yes i don't think he knew where the fuck he was you're speaking to california democrats and check out some of these takes if my policies have to become more moderate to get things done that matter to the american people then i'm all in it got worse when he talked about healthcare. Medicare for all may sound good, but it's actually not good policy, nor is it good politics. I'm telling you.

I'm telling you. Yo, I feel bad that his only defense... Mulaney 2020, I'm telling you. I his only lady 2020 i'm telling you i'm telling you i'm telling you oh shit i'm telling you i'm telling you gee whiz he's glitching he's glitching he's glitching pour water on him yeah we already have a flagrant centrist running in the there's only room for one flagrant yeah i kind of want to vote for this guy's staff. Yeah, right? You know? Like, that's refreshing. Yeah.

I almost want, like, I wish you could vote for the candidate and then be like, now you have to take his staff. Right, right, right. I want these three people around in case you need to be told to sit down. Right. You know? I like knowing that they'll do that. There's another thing that said, like, his wife, who isn't officially part of the campaign,

has been apparently, like, actually running the campaign. So there was no coherent direction going on. part of the campaign has been apparently like actually running the campaign so they there's like there was no coherent direction going on the other thing they say is that first of all he's not even polling anywhere near enough to get deep in these debates he's polling between generously zero and under one percent and are in is america ready for a president this bald i know when was the last time we had a really bald motherfucker in the office? Dwight D. Dwight D was a bald man.

Ike? Who else? LBJ was thinning. LBJ was thinning. Nixon got pretty... Nixon was getting there. But not like... He didn't have the halo. Huh. Yeah, that's a very good, yeah. Wow.

It's funny because baldest woman is boss. Yeah. Baldest man is cuck loser. Yeah, baldest woman is in charge. Baldest man, kind of chaos, you don't know. Yeah. Could go a lot of ways. That's why I wear a hat, so no one knows.

Yeah. Now, the other thing that they say is that Delaney apparently seemed open to the idea of dropping out, but that he'd still attend the next debates at the end of this month. He's even flip-flopping on this issue. Like, what the fuck is this guy doing? He's got no stance. They're literally saying, like, dude, it's fucking done. Take the L. Just figure out another strategy here.

There might be a way for you to become a governor or get a cabinet position. But he's like, nah, let me just see how this next debate goes. My glamour project. He's like, hold on. Let me just kill it real quick. He's like, the only thing worse than canceling college debt is abortion. Whoa. Ah, shit.

I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm going to do that every time I'm losing an audience. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you.

I can't wait to get the old fashioned hook. The vaudevillian shepherds game. I'm telling you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, nothing says. Dating in LA. I'm telling you.

I'm telling you. I'm telling you. You don't know if who you're going to be with is a cis or a het or a man or, you know, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Boo! Cis problematic, man. What the fuck? Boo!

Hooker! I'm telling you. Oh, boy. That did not go well. I'm going to stop getting my jokes from Reddit. Okay, well, you know, again, I think Kenny, yes. Valuable lesson here for his staff. Shout out to them for, I wonder how bad it was.

Like if they really thought, like if this was an intervention, essentially. Yeah. To be like, hey, we got to talk, boss. What? Dude, you got to pull the fucking plug on this thing. Your own job? Like this guy has good friends. More people need these people like this.

I think maybe that's why they really want to be like, he a genuinely nice guy he's just wrong for this era yeah i mean sure yeah he sounds like a cool principal yeah it's like a lot of it's like comedians you know jamie how many times you've heard that where it's like what how's this person like nice guy nice really that guy needs to quit he's gonna be so nice doing literally anything else. Yeah. Has a comedian ever Delaney staffed another comedian? Delaney staffed? No.

Been like, hey, you know what? This ain't it. It's tough. You know how you tell someone to- I feel like you kind of got to Delaney staff yourself. Yeah, you have to self-staff. Yeah, you got to self-staff. You got to self-staff yourself.

Wow, well, staffing season is upon us. There comes a day where we must all Delaney ourselves. Moving on to... Are you gonna be a Melaney or Delaney? That's the choice. You got two roads here in comedy. You're either a Melaney or a Delaney.

Melanies rise up, Delanies don't know when to quit. I'm just gonna jump back into the devil's butthole. Down to the devil's butthole. From whence I came um speaking of no i can't even pivot into that i just want to talk about what's going on in puerto rico right now uh because ricardo roseo the governor and his staff have been in fucking hot water there people are in the streets demanding his resignation uh because he is just trying to ride out an epic shitstorm of controversy at the moment. Puerto Rico's Center for Investigative

Journalism released like almost 900 pages of texts or messages in this group between the governor and 11 other male aides that were chock full of homophobic and sexist slurs. It's really bad. And it was a fucking toxic dump site. Like, it was, they were taking shots at political opponents, like the mayor of San Juan, fucking Ricky Martin got the smoke in this group. Yeah, it's not worth repeating any of it,

but it is like, I don't, I'm like, do they not, this always happens. Yeah. It's also like, even if you're going to speak that way, like in this current day and age, if you're, what are you texting anything? Yeah. Like, you know that this is going to. It'll end up somewhere.

That shows how incompetent you are. Right. Is that you think you can text this stuff. You don't even know how to hide your misogyny. It's unacceptable to say it in a closed room with your friends. Right. But it is stupid to have digital receipts. Like, it's crazy.

Evidence of your shittiness when you're in such a position of power, too. Yeah. Especially after you're coming off of like a huge hurt. You're under the spotlight. Yeah. And I mean, again, there was even another comment like where the governor's chief financial officer was making like Hurricane Maria jokes even about bodies piling up. It was absurd.

Now, this is all against a backdrop where people fucking are have been calling him out on his basically failed leadership and, you know, his failure to accurately portray the extent of the damage and the death toll of the hurricane, his inability to really stand up to Trump. And, you know, just the local government and federal government's slow response. Obviously, like there are a lot of just terrible shit has been going on. And then also recently, too, there was a scandal involving his secretary of education and five others. They were fucking arrested because they were just steering federal funds to like their homies who are contractors who are totally unqualified.

Right. Like old school bullshit, you know, here, here, here, hook the homies up type corruption. So, you know, when you kind of look at all this and all the anger, I get it because on top of the economic situation in the territory, which already, come on, Puerto Rico should be a fucking state. We're fucking making all these decisions on these people's behalves. They are United States citizens, but they have no representation in Congress. Mm-hmm. I have so much to say about that.

It's, yeah. And then on top of it, the federal government has their hands all over how they're going to recover out of this recession and their plan. They're making all the decisions, which is basically pay off your debt, but pay the banks fucking first. Not even be able to figure out a way to get this economy running again. It's like, well, hey, man, you owe Wall Street some money. Yeah, the priorities are very clear. Yeah, this is, I mean, it's the pull quotes from these,

I like that they're called Ricky Leaks. Yeah. The pull quotes from the Ricky Leaks are straight up horrifying. And it is, I mean, it is kind of, I do, I guess, appreciate the fact that like world leaders can still be this incompetent. So at least they can get busted on this shit because i feel like once once people who are a part of our generation uh start engaging in political fuckery uh they will know not to do this right and like i mean it's a manafort got busted for the same thing like earlier this year is like he had just texted yeah all his war crimes how How do I change this PDF to look like more money in bank? Right.

It's just. Well, it's also like he's Trump is scapegoating this guy and he's giving it validity, which is another frustrating element. Because I first started hearing about this guy's corruption because of Trump's deflections on his handling of Maria. And I assumed, oh, he's just blaming someone else. But then it sucks whenever it comes out and it's like, oh, this guy is inept. And then Trump's base is like, see? See, it wasn't him. See, it wasn't him.

And that's one of the big arguments against him is you said the way he handled the hurricane. But it turns out, you know, and look, you know. You saw Trump. He was in the gym with that wet ass jump shot with the paper towels. You saw that. But again, you know, shout out to the people in the streets, man. I really hope your action pays off because, again, yes, I feel like he should resign. And there is constant, constant demonstrations going on.

So, you know, shout out, support, to love to all the boricua people in puerto rico absolutely uh next up okay so uh how many y'all did face app i don't fuck with that why because i russia no because i i you don't want to look at yourself i don't want to see first of all i don't want to look logistically i don't want to know what i look like old what the fuck there i i'm gonna look worse than i do now and i don't need to think about that look like old. What the fuck? I'm going to look worse than I do now, and I don't need to think about that. Everyone's like, I'm going to be hot when I'm old. I'm like, no, you're hot now. Yeah, do the face app.

You just, yeah. You think you'll be hot when you're old? Let me see. I'm not doing it. No, not you. The hypothetical me. Debate me. You, yeah.

Anytime the masses start doing something, it's probably not great. Well, you know, I think- Once it goes to, it's like the ice bucket challenge where it was like, okay, I hit a certain point where I was like, what's really going on here? It's too much. Sure. I mean, at least that was in service of like ALS, right?

Right, right. I mean, look, you take it, you get to use people's sense of vanity or the novelty of seeing themselves old and it spread. But like the prevailing take was Russia. And even I was like at first like, hmm. But overall at the end, like when in my mind, I was like, well, then they're going to have photos.

But it's like, let's be real. Everybody got your photos. You don't need this. This isn't going to open Pandora's box, fam. No. But at any rate, people just became so concerned with it, especially that the language and the terms and conditions basically said, you grant FaceApp a perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, royalty-free, worldwide,

fully paid, transferable, sub-licensable, licensed to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create, derivative works from, distribute publicly, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now, people were like obviously freaked out about Russia these days because of what happened in the election or whatever. But it even got to the point where Chuck Schumer called for an FBI investigation into the app and then telling people who are running DNC candidates, like, do not use the app. Really? Are we not looking at what actual big tech companies are doing?

I'd see it both ways. In some ways, I'm just like, yeah, if you did FaceApp, of course your data got fucking jacked. I feel like in general, most people are like, oh, yeah, duh. I'm very surprised that people were surprised. But this is like you're saying. It's like most apps. It's like if you have a fucking Nest Cam in your house, if you have an Alexa in your house, you are putting on my little hat.

Look at the terms and conditions of fucking anything you use. Well, that's the thing. Yeah, it's like if you don. Well, that's the thing. Yeah. It's like if you don't, like you can opt out. If you have an Alexa in your house, you can opt out of certain like not being eavesdropped on. But it affects the service of the device so much that you may as well not have it. Right. So you're just creating like.

That's why you should just hire some kind of servant with a computer app next to them at all times. There's a great book there. I've been reading a lot about it because it's a lot of what the show I've been building is about. And, you know, not to brag, but I've read a book. Girl Whom is Boss? Boss Whom is Girl. Boss Whom is Girl. I'm sorry.

I mean, very important distinction. Yes. But there is a new book called The the age of surveillance capitalism that like super breaks down uh the logistics of this is by shoshana zuboff but it's just i mean it is i think it is kind of like pointed that like face app is such a silly thing yeah and the fact that that's taking data is like kind of funny but it's like everything well literally everything well even when you break down the thing a lot of people like well gives you the camera or whatever and a lot of people who are looking into like the structure of the actual app it's not accessing your entire camera roll and

being like thank you it's just turning the ones that you are putting uh like the photo you want to be altered in and then the information it only can get is just the device model you have and like this specific like serial number like the device ID number. Yeah. I mean, it's not more than a normal app would ask for. I double-checked just to be sure, and the Jeremy Renner app asks more for more data than the device app does. I'm sure. And your location, probably, to unlock location-based.

Oh, you've got to tell him where you are. The Jeremy Renner app is chaos. You know you need money to participate? You can download it for free, but there's also a Jeremy Renner star system. I saw that. Wait, didn't you like upload a thing where you can pay more for him to see your comments or some shit? Yeah, you can pay $100 and then he'll for sure see your thirsty ass comment on his weird app. Or at least someone he knows will.

Can we get you banned from that app? I want him to ban me. I will put money into whatever would be the highest tier user so he has to see your nonstop commentary. I star every pick. I'm really, I mean. And still no reply from him? No response? No.

I mean, I'm nowhere close to being the number one fan. It's going to take a while. But if you download the Jeremy Renner app, make sure you also sign up for push notifications because they're fucked. One thing I just do want to bring up is when you look at just sort of people like, well, then they have your photo. Just think about this, right? Google has already used at least 8 million user images for facial recognition training. Facebook has used at least 10 million users' photos for their own shit. So let's really kind of refocus this.

I understand Russia has so much energy behind it, and it's crazy because a lot of the coverage was lopsided and just focusing on Russia rather than privacy, right? I think that's really what it was, but because I think the nature of the sort of response people have when they hear it, they're like, oh, no. Other thing. You remember the mannequin challenge? Yeah. With the Ray Stremmer song?

Didn't have the Ray Stremmer song? Yeah. Where people had to stand still and then people would just kind of walk through with a camera. Well, guess what? Google used 2,000 of those mannequin challenge videos to train their AI to understand their AI model and predicting the depth of a moving object in video. So, you know what? Just FaceApp the fuck out yourself, guys. Yeah, man.

I think the worst thing that can happen when you participate in FaceApp is you're a fucking dork. I think that that is really the thing. Oh, man. But some of those photos, man. I guess. Like the people who did it six times on themselves. Those ones where you look like you're melting are kind of funny.

Yeah, I actually like that one. You have full on just, yeah. Well, great. And also, other fact, the actual images that are being used, they're not actually even being stored in Russia. They're using Google and Amazon's cloud services. Well, that sounds safe. And also think about this. They're not even accessing your microphone like many other apps that don't need to. Jeremy Renner. Jeremy Renner's app uses the

microphone. Are you ever in an app? It happens to me when I'm on Instagram all the time where you close the app and you can see the red, the red like recording light and the top left of your phone for a second. And then it shuts off and you're like, oh, that app was listening to me. Like which ones? Yeah. That happens on Instagram all the time. When I close Instagram, like look at the top left of your screen, it'll be red for a second and then close.

And I only know that because I record all my sets and so I know like what that recording light looks like. That's why your targeted ads get crazy, man. Yeah.

I was literally, so I said, the way, remember in the beginning I said I had Googled bug out bag? Well, it was after the earthquake and we were like, we got to figure out bag well it was after the earthquake and we were like we gotta figure out

we gotta have a kit and we were having a conversation about it and then I looked at my phone and the first targeted ad was this bug out bag not to have my little but like I mean we always talk about how those ads just pop up and I'm like yeah cool microphone access it is yeah they are

I'm like they are listening but like if you don't think that that's true it's like like, look at your targeted ads. Yeah. There's facts and then there's conspiracy. But it's like, I remember I had an Alexa. My roommate had one. We got rid of it because of the number of times that we would forget it was there. And we'd just be talking and then we'd hear, I'm sorry, what was that?

And it's like, oh, yeah, you're just listening to us. I do it sometimes in, like, shows. Like, I'll have people take their phones out and just, like, leave their phone out and then mention, like, Monster Energy Drink, like, 20 times. And then the next day, people will send me screenshots of, like, their targeted ads of it. Monster needs to give you a check. Yeah, I agree. I know.

That's not a boss move. It's not cheap. I know. I hear you. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who, on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we're back. And we're back. Jamie? Miles? How is MenCon? Okay, so I... Give us a quick update. What's going on?

Quick update. I'm not going to go crazy on the recap, but I do feel like, you know, I've been talking to Zykan about this story for over a year now. Yeah, you are a Mensa. Yes. You've written things about Mensa.

Yes. You've been, I'll let you just tell your story. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm just making space in here. So basically, if you're not familiar, that's great, honestly. That's great. Took the Mensa entry exam as a joke.

Turned out to not be. Turned out I was a genius. No, it turns out, and I genuinely do believe this, turns out the test is way easier than they tell you, and it's kind of a grift. Wow, hot take. I truly believe a lot of people, almost anyone can pass this test i think uh if if you grew up taking standardized tests which most of us did if you if you did well and your standardized tests in elementary school you'll probably do well in these uh either way uh wrote about it as a joke got in

as a joke was writing some kind of goofy pieces under the assumption that the group was kind of a bunch of rich liberal nerds. Yeah, sure. So kind of poking at that. Then turns out it was a way more complicated organization than I realized. There were a lot of secret Facebook groups that were – Toxic? They're – I'm trying to remain – I'm like 12,000 words deep into this story and it is way – Have you said that many words already?

Way more bizarre. Oh, you're writing. Okay. I thought you had spoken 12,000 words just now. No. Although I am going cropped and viral right now. You're cropped and viral in that cold brew. On the cold brew.

But long story short, there are all these secret groups, especially this one unmoderated one who found my work and immediately were like you know like there were there were threats there were insults it was just kind of the general uh person online yeah you poked a cultural beehive online right and then the response so uh so i just started writing about that I stopped making fun of it and started reporting on it. Things kind of spiraled out. I met people who were very high up in American Mensa, and they were like, yeah, we're not going to shut this group down because people like it, even though it's extremely right-leaning, a lot of racist stuff in there, a lot of anything phobic. Right. It's in that group.

And they'll specifically target members of the group they don't agree with and mass block them and right right make the group inaccessible um so they it was requested that i go to the annual gathering of the juggalos of the juggalos uh but it was in phoenix this year so it was three days nights, 72 hours of Mensa, 110 degrees minimum the whole time because we're in fucking Phoenix. Yeah. wasn't expecting for like i had a name tag on and and i think i was confronted for good bad somewhere in between by minimum 100 people wow uh just like it was it was you've been kind of you're sort of a pariah in the mensa community now but i didn't anticipate to know of course but yeah but i know like you definitely people knew the name Jamie Loftus in certain circles.

Sure, but I mean, I thought, I was assuming I could kind of slink, you know, not slink around, but they asked me basically the criticism of me besides the fact that I'm an ugly cunt who doesn't know what I'm talking about. Outside of that very valid criticism. The criticism was that I, you know, prejudged the organization before I got to know them. Which, so I was like, okay, fine, I'll go and, you know, I'll talk to people and, you know, fine. And, yeah, I met, I've never, like, there were multiple times where I was in a room full of people who had blocked me online. They knew exactly who I was. I had no way of knowing who any of them were.

And it was just a series of in-person interactions. I mean, some of them were pleasant conversations. And then I would hear from a second party after like, oh, that person has said really like hideous things about you that I can't see. So it was just like a very weird translating from online to IRL situation. I was kind of surprised that there were a few members who they were so aggressive towards me that I knew who they were, Whoa, right, right. Which means that they went out of their way to go out of the blocking and contact me directly. Sure. And there were a few people I met who got, I think, surprisingly vulnerable with why they

felt a certain way about a certain thing. And I still disagree with most of it, but it was like, I don't know. I got invited to this dinner at Scottish Hooters in Phoenix. It's called Tilted Kilt. It is called Tilted Kilt. Respect to Tilted Kilt. It is Scottish Hooters. I ended up talking to all these people. That's amazing that Mensa meetings are at the Tilted Kilt.

Yeah, they're like, we're going to go to Tilted Kilt later. We're intellectual. Meet me at the Buffalo Wing Bar. It was a massive, I mean, there were 2,000 people at the Sheraton in Phoenix doing this. And the daytime, I mean, the lectures during the day were mostly stupid and hilarious, where there was comedy workshops run by 80-year-old professors. Comedy workshops? I went to three comedy-themed workshops.

What? How? How? Why? Why do they need comedy worked on in a shop? I don't know, but I don't think that they were helped by the programming available. My favorite one was called Because Science is Cool, Young Sheldon, the Big Bang Theory, and You. It was cute. By CBS.

Yeah, sponsored by CBS. Oh, it was it was cute. By CBS. But yeah, sponsored by CBS. No, it was I mean, I'd never seen a room full of full grown adults recite a scene from the Big Bang Theory from memory and then laugh their heads off. Wow. But it was I mean, it was I am going to write something about it. It's taking a long time because there's more to write about than I anticipated.

I don't know. It was truly like the most bizarre, one of the most bizarre weekends I've ever had, and I still don't even know how I feel about it. Well, I can't wait for you to finish this very long piece you've been working on, because it sounds like it has everything. It was a very strange experience that I guess that I'll reach my conclusion at some point, but it's so long. It's so much stuff. Well, tell me if you would recommend this strange event to someone. Do it.

Would you go see the Lou Pearlman biopic? Yes. Why does he have a biopic? We were upstairs working the script or the flow of the show, and then you're like, there's a Lou Pearlman biopic. This is crazy. You love Lou Pearlman. I mean, not that you like. No, no, no, no, no. You're fascinated by Lou Pearlman. You're trying to cancel me right and left today, Miles.

You're a huge Lou head, right? You totally agree with everything Lou Pearlman's done. I just think it is so fucking weird that there's going to be a lou perlman biopic i just watched there is a mostly good sort of weird documentary on youtube read about him so lou perlman is the guy who is a he's a former blimp salesman who then went on to invent every popular boy band of the 1990s backstreetreet Boys, Lou Pearlman. NSYNC was invented by Lou Pearlman as competition for the Backstreet Boys. So he would make double money.

It's just like, and he's this, like if you picture like villainous person, you're picturing Lou Pearlman. He's like a cigar chain smoking, like older, older, yeah, older white guy. You got the goods, kid. Yeah, no, really. Yeah. Literally plucking kids out of Orlando. You're going to be a star. The documentary is wild because you find out that like for most of their career, Backstreet Boys are making minimum wage while Lou Pearlman is making millions of dollars.

There are some pretty serious allegations by some members of, I think it's O-Town. Remember O-Town? Oh, yeah. Because I'm on it all. Wow. I mean, that was their hit. Okay, Manson. But there are some serious allegations surrounding him

that I don't think have ever gone to court. He's also dead. Right, because he died in prison after he was in a Ponzi scheme or something. The Ponzi scheme is the wildest part of the story. Also, I'm like, I mean, Zeitgang, let me know who you think should play Lou Pearlman. I'm personally like Bobby Moynihan would be a great Lou Pearlman. Wow.

He would like fucking kill it. Maybe. But that's just Jamie's little take. Maybe you should be a casting person, not a hot take comedian. I have, oh God, please never call me that again. Hot take comedian, Jamie Lofton. Jump off the balcony.

HTC. So he was a blimp salesman. His first love was blimps. Like every great man. Like every great man. He started blimping. And he was a blimp insurance scam man. And this is just a quick anecdote from this great Vanity Fair piece about him, about his first blimp scam, which had to do with Jordache jeans.

It's pronounced Jordache. Okay. I'm old. I was like, cut my Mensa card up. So the blimp was assembled at a naval base in Lakehurst, New Jersey, the same one where the German Zeppelin Hindenburg had crashed in flames. There were problems from the beginning, among the fact that the gold paint Jordache demanded to turn brown after several days in the sun new Jordache blimp floated into the New Jersey sky on its way to the New York Harbor, where it was to circle a promotional party Jordache was throwing. It made it less than a mile, however, before losing altitude and forcing the pilot to crash land in a garbage dump. The crash made headlines.

Pearlman blamed the weight of the gold paint. In the airship community, however, favorite beginning to a sentence, there were darker whispers. Lou never intended to fly that blimp, asserts Gross, his blimping friend. He could have been arrested if it had left that base. So basically, he ends up getting $2.5 million in blimp insurance money. So he sabotaged the blimp. He's a saboteur. He's a saboteur. He's a saboteur.

Wow. I hope that's most of the film. I think that that's the most. Fuck the other stuff. Yeah, I want to see this. Yeah. Especially, I want to see the turd crash into a New Jersey dump.

I mean, if this movie is made the right way, it could be really cool. I sort of worry about it getting into vice territory of making a bad person look cool. Look cool, yeah, yeah, it could be really cool. I sort of worry about it getting into vice territory of making a bad person look cool. This is a country of grifters. The Ray Kroc founder or whatever,

the McDonald's one. It sounds like it's in that vein. It's just like one of the great American grifts, the boy band grifter. And possible monster. probably no likely no like for sure for sure monster 100 someone's gotta get moynihan in the room for this yeah that's a good call i was looking at i was looking at pictures of him trying to think of like who i would suggest but i think it has to be bobby moynihan yeah like it's perfect and it's such a like he's so many of his crimes are extremely goofy too like he's a blimp fraud

he said he had an airline but never owned a plane and then there's this great picture in the documentary i can't find it online but there's a picture of like his promotional image for i think it was called transcontinental airlines where it's supposed to be a picture of a Transcontinental Airlines plane taking off. But it's Lou Pearlman holding a model of a plane close to the camera. And that was the promotional image for his airline that didn't actually exist. Wow. He was like a high level florida scammer uh you know who probably could have done philip seymour hoffman i think could have played him yeah i

know that's what i was thinking too that's a shame i was i always lobby for melina but um you know yeah i don't want melina to sort of take the risk i think for someone to do this you would want to actually put on that weight to look believable. But yeah. You know, if Matt Damon were willing to commit to a weight gain program, I think he could maybe make this work. Lastly, I just want to talk about Netflix briefly because they kind of made a boo-boo. They projected them picking up about 5 million subscribers in the last quarter.

They only did about half that and it sent their stock tumbling oh no their stock guys uh but really what is interesting is that they were kind of blaming or the head of netflix was like you know we just had a weak programming slate and that kind of led to the slip and they're like but you know what the new stranger thing is out and and that's going to make the numbers look good the nielsen the people who do the nielsen ratings they have another theory they think it's too much fucking content to choose from because as they were doing their analysis they found that if if video streaming subscribers don't know what they want to watch they're almost twice as likely to tune into their just favorite broadcast television channel rather than browse through the menus of their streaming services also streaming service recommendations do not appear to carry much weight 44 percent of

polled viewers said they would scan through television channels to decide what to watch while 26 said they watch shows recommended by their subscription service i've i get it i believe it it's decision fatigue there's too much shit and i don't know totally and half the recommended shit, I'm like, you really think based on me watching this other shit, I want to watch some child animation? Negative. Yeah. My worry is that they're going to stop letting you, like, having, like, my worry is you can't, they'll do that thing. I think Hulu does this where two people can't use it at the same time so that everyone's

going to have to get their own subscription to Netflix. Because I think that Hulu does that because I use my writing partners and sometimes it's like someone else is trying to watch King of the Hill. Get the fuck out. Also, if you leave browsers open, make sure you close them browser windows because that'll count when you're active screens. But yeah, you know, I think there's just too much stuff.

I wish there was some way that the recommendation algorithm was more intelligent. Maybe they should turn the microphone on in my house and hear the kind of conversations I have. It was just crazy because at least like the old TV model was like programmed in time blocks. Right.

It was like we have this many hours in the day. Right. So there's only so many shows we can make to fill our channel and now it's just like yeah you got unlimited time man right here you go you want to watch a fucking competition show where they blow glass no honestly i fucking don't okay sorry i mean that i'm speaking for myself but i will pretend to be netflix and ask you hey jamie you want to watch a competition show about motherfuckers blowing glass i think it's weird that there's like chihuly head oh For myself. But I will pretend to be Netflix and ask you, hey, Jamie, you want to watch a competition show

about motherfuckers blowing glass? I think it's weird that there's like... Oh, you're not Chihuly head? Oh, you're not Chihuly head, my man? What's a Chihuly? You don't like Chihuly? Chihuly's the only famous glassblower. Oh, yeah.

He got the eye patch. Yes, yes, yes, yes. That art is very... I think some of his work is in the Palm Springs Art Museum. I made a really mean cartoon about him once, and I regret it. Well, you'll have your chance to redeem yourself by watching the new season of whatever that show is. Glass Blowing Service.

Well, Kenny, Jami, thank you so much for joining me on this journey today. Oh, yeah. Oh, man, my pleasure. Kenny, where can people find you and follow you and support you? Man, it's real easy. It's Kenny DeForest on everything. I'm the only Kenny DeForest out here trying to in existence yeah there's i'm the only one uh no kenny deforest on twitter instagram my website's kenny deforest.com and uh yeah follow me man is there a

tweet you like anything on twitter that oh yeah um yeah so do you guys know Patty Harrison? Yeah. She's my favorite person to follow on Twitter, I think. And where the hell is it? Oh, here we go. Sure, if you remove your floating ribs, you can suck your own cock. But did you know that if you remove all your ribs, you can suck your own heart? What you think about that? Does this track? Suck your own heart

oh that's great Jamie where can people find you you can find me on Twitter at Jamie Laptis Help Instagram Jamie Cry Superstar

Bechtelcast every Thursday also I'm leaving on I think the day this episode comes out I'm leaving the country for six weeks

to go do Edinburgh Fringe. So if you're UK Zeitgang, I am going to be in London 27th and the 28th doing my show Boss Who Missed Girl. And if you're in Edinburgh, I will be there from the 31st to the 26th doing the show every damn night. Damn. So please, please, please come. Every damn day. Every damn day.

That's going to be cool to see how that show evolves over time, right? Do you think it'll evolve subtly by getting all those reps in? Yeah. I mean, it changes. I've never done a show that many times in a row. And even when I've been, I think I've done it maybe 10 times here, and it changes every time. And it's like, because it's about Silicon Valley grifters, there's always new stuff to add. Every couple days there's shit to add.

By the end, I think you're going to become so powerful, you're just going to shoot fucking fire out of your eyes. I can't control it. I've iterated too much. I've created too much content. I am the singularity. What's the tweet you like? Going off the fringe, if you are going, I wanted to shout out an entire Twitter account that someone from Scotland's Zeitgang sent to me. It's an account called At Fringe of Color, spelled the UK way, C-O-L-O-U-R, because Edinburgh Fringe is majority.

Because Edinburgh Fringe is majority, there's mostly white performers that go and, you know, going to see theater is such a class prohibitive thing. Sure. That this is an account that was set up specifically to promote shows by non-white performers at the Fringe. There's like a really useful spreadsheet. They're tweeting about it all the time. And it seems like it's a super valuable resource if you're going. If you are, definitely follow that account at Fringe of Color. Get your fringe on.

Color. You can find me and follow me at Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram. A tweet that I like. I like a few. First one's from Blair Saki. At Blair Saki. I always feel so sorry for girls from my high school when I go back home to get my hair done

and run into them at the salon. And they're like, so what have you been up to? Can you imagine having to try to pretend you don't know someone is a famous comedian? It's just sad. Next up. Rachel Winnitsky, past guest, at Rachel Winnitsky. All caps.

I personally like that the cats have big human titties. I think we have all been blessed. Thank you, Rachel. And last one's from Desus at Desus Nice. Saw cats as a kid. My mother got my playbill autographed and introduced me to one of the main actors. He OD'd on Coke a week later, and I was like, what's Coke? And my parents just changed the subject.

You can find The Daily Zeitgeist at Daily Zeitgegeist on Twitter, at the DailyZeitgeist on Instagram. We've got a Facebook fan page. We've got a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where I post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Thank you. Where we post our episodes, you know, and I think the tracks and stuff like that. Also,

just to let you know, the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of I Have a Heart Radio, so, you know, come get down with us on any app or whatever. You heard me? Or whatever. And we are going to ride out on a song. What's that song, Miles? Well, allow me to tell you.

This is a track from Ila Bamba, who is an artist we played before. She has a new track called Something Wild Out. You know, this is a good song to start your week. Get powerful. We all got to keep our heads down and slog through. So good luck to everybody. Keep your hopes high. Keep your heads high.

And listen to this track. Thank you for joining. We'll talk to you tomorrow because it's a daily show. Bless you. Goodbye. Can I add one quick thing before we play? Really quick. I'll be on a stand-up tour in the Southeast at the end of August and early September.

KennyDeForest.com. I got Cincinnati Go Bananas. I got Asheville, North Carolina. A bunch of dates being added right now, KennyDeForest.com. I got Cincinnati Go Bananas. I got Asheville, North Carolina. A bunch of dates being added right now, so check that out. Boom. Check out Kenny all there on his website, on all his handles,

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