The Daily Zeitgeist - Where Is My Spine? Worst “Documentary” Ever 01.27.26

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

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Nicole, I'm going to need a lot more yelling here. I told you, I was trying in the beginning. I need a dollar or something, yeah, since you're in Miami. I don't know if I've ever even, well, of course, I've yelled before, but I'm like, when's the last time? Wow, that's great. I'm not a yeller. You're so chill that you got to go, God, when was the last time? I raised my voice.

No, I get like really calm like a witch. People say it's worse. When you get angry, you get calm. Yeah, because it feels like everything's clear now. It's like, hmm. Oh, right, right, right, right. Oh, right. It's like, damn, you get clearer when you're angry.

I do kind of. I get so dumb. I'm just like, I better not say anything because it's going to be so stupid. And I'm going to be crying because I don't know how to manage my emotions through this. I don't even know. Stomping. Yeah. Yeah, I do a lot of stomping.

you know, folding my arms and getting in the corner and staring at the corner. I don't want dinner. Oh, you don't want dinner? Okay. Okay. I made your favorite spaghetti. I don't like spaghetti. Yeah.

Oh. You don't like spaghetti anymore? No. More for us. Give me the spaghetti. Yeah. Well, not, don't eat my spaghetti. Right.

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Yeah! The production of IHeartRadio, we told our guests we don't yell on this show. show and realizing incorrect right off the bat screams from the beginning. Bye, bye, buy. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness through the day's news. We also have a new weekly history version of the show dropping each Monday morning where we do a deep dive into the history of a different icon.

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It's Vietnam Peace Day. Remember that? War of Global American Imperialism. Also, National Chocolate Cake Day, okay. Thank you. All praise be to the chocolate cake. And also National Holocaust Remembrance Day. So there's a lot to remember today. As we move through an unprecedented, well, not unprecedented. As America. Very precedented. Here we go again.

Yes, yes. Like I said in yesterday's show, it's more that the state has determined that eligibility requirements for being brutalized have now been expanded to more people than previous. So come on in, I guess. Now, for Vietnam Peace Day, do they recognize the historical peace day or the one where Rambo 2 goes back and wins? This is about Rambo. This is for. This commemorates the release of Rambo 2. Yeah. Do we get to win this time?

Yeah. That it's commemorating that day. Yeah, 100%. Good. Yeah. Of course. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka Potato's O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host. Oh, cool.

My co-host. Whoa. Mr. Miles Gray! Wow. You did a. You did like a little pump fake with that. You said, co-ho. I know.

I peaked a little bit on the audio. Oh, oh, okay. Sorry. I didn't know if my position was. My damn co-ho. Yeah, I just couldn't get over the fact. My co-host, maybe you switch it up to this guy outside. I'm looking at.

Yes, it's Miles Gray, the Lord of Lancashim, the showgun with no gun. Great to be here with everybody. Great to be here with you, Miles. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by award-winning audio showrunner and creator of the podcast, The Secret Adventures of Black People. Last year, she launched a show called Our Ancestors were messy about the gossip scandals and pop culture

that made headlines in historical black newspapers across America. Welcome to the show. It's Nicole! Hey! Oh, I should yell. I can't yell. No, no, don't. You don't have to yell.

I feel I have to yell. We are compensating. Welcome to the show, Nicole. Thank you. Are you good? Oh, God. We said something interesting to say, so instead I just yell. You could just turn me up later.

Yeah. You could just turn me up and say, hello, how are you? Yeah, yeah. Their audio was really blown out. He's like, yeah, trying to make it seem like she was yelling. How are you, Nicole? How are you? I'm doing well.

I'm doing well. How are you? You know, as you said up top, precedented times in the country. You know, but I think like I was saying before, being black and Japanese. I've heard multiple versions of this growing up, like I'm sure you have of sort of like,

let's not get it fucked up about what this country is that you live in. And I think this is, I think this is right now, it feels like a lot more people are now becoming a little bit more in tune with that idea, that nobody is actually safe unless everybody is safe. A lesson being learned a little late, but you know what,

better late than ever. And I hope that, I hope that sort of those kinds of realization help people get through this very, very, very fucked up time because it's not going to be easy. It's not going to be easy. It's a lesson we learn every decade, two decades. Then we learn, then forget. This is the cycle we're trapped in, unfortunately.

But I'm glad that we're in the remembering part of it. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Because it's like in the 2023-24s of our cycles when you're like, and people are like, and everything. And we're good again. We're good again. No, no, no, no. No, no. No, no.

No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no, no, what the fuck are you talking about? Don't think you fucking right. Like, well, Nancy Pelosi had a kente cloth on. I thought we were good. She's so old. Did you see how she took that knee?

That could have killed her. But she did for us. But she did it for us. And look at them. I'll just, and still, I think that's the thing, too. We find ourselves like similar, similar in how what 2020 did for people understanding police brutality. Now we're sort of broadening it to state sanctioned violence, our stupid, ethno, nationalist,

white supremacist, immigration policies. But it's like you're at that crossroad again where people go, this shit has to end full stop. This is bullshit. This is nonsense. It doesn't work. It's not helping. It's only harming.

And then just like in 2020, people are like, agreed the cops are wilding out. But right. But right now. Not all ICE agents. And right now it's like, ICE is whiling out.

But we might be able to just like, no, no, no, no. What if they weren't wearing masks? Would you feel better about this then? Um, no. But anyway, The most consistent American value is state-sponsored white supremacist violence. And then the calls for more training to solve it.

If we believe in two things, state-sponsored, white supremacist violence. And how do we solve it? Training. More training. Training programs. Yeah, exactly. The person who shows up in the office like, hi. Yeah, exactly.

Sexual harassment. Hold on. This person is, this guy's wearing a clan outfit. Well, he came from the, he's from the consulting company who's giving everybody at all the different branches. It's an interesting idea. Nicole, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the stories we're talking about today.

We're going to talk about the Democrats acting like they're actually going to do something. Acting. Yeah, we're going to see, you know. Okay, what is it? Miles, we're going to talk about. Because I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. odd about it.

Yeah, yeah. No, they might withhold the Democrats in the Senate, the House Democrats already voted the Trump administration, 1.2 billion, a trillion government funding package through. But the Senate might be public breaks on that. Well, so we'll talk about that. We'll talk about who voted for it pretty recently. And how that all came together. We'll talk about what the Republican, the Republicans seem to be having a real. crisis of consciousness slash PR around this, where the ones who aren't going for re-election seem to be like, wait a second, this seems bad.

But we'll talk about that. And of course, we're going to talk about the big movie premiere that happened over the weekend. Melania premiered at the White House, famous movie theater, The White House. Yeah, yeah. And was attended by, you know, brought out. on all the bootlicking husbands. Yeah, yeah, all of them. Kind of an impressive array of the most dimly glittering stars.

All of that, plenty more. But first, Nicole, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Who I am. I think, well, I mean, I'm really just hunting down the tour for Bad Buddy. I'm trying to go see him in some other country,

I want to give this man my money. I want to dance to his music with a sea of other people. Can I speak Spanish? No, it doesn't matter. But you know the vibes. You have vibes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, at that point, it's a vibe.

It's just a vibe. Oh, my God, he's so much fun. So I think that that's probably. And you agree with us. So it sounds like you agree with us that he should speak English. He's going to be my Super Bowl in half time. Not my Super Bowl. Yeah.

Did you see Trump? He's like, I'm not going because it's too far away. Damn. This fool just went to Switzerland. Oh, my God. Where is the Super Bowl at this year? San Francisco. Oh, that's why.

Yeah. Yeah, he doesn't want to be in California with all this shit going on. And he doesn't want to be reminded that people in physical space fucking hate him. Because every time he goes out. Yeah, everyone's like, boom, get the fuck out of here. And he's like, uh-huh. Yeah. Washington where like half the crowd is on his payroll.

Yeah, right. You know, like they're all government employees. They're like, fuck you. Yes, exactly. I used to live in D.C. And it was, I mean, it's just everywhere you go. I was just back there a few weeks ago. I mean, all you see are signs of how much people hate him in new and creative ways.

Yeah, yeah. It's fantastic. And that's also my favorite part about being in bars in D.C., the graffiti in the men's Exactly. So much, so many great pro-democracy messages specifically. I feel like I read the wildest anti-Trump graffiti in like a D.C. bathroom. I never been in there. Not the neat ones.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, look, I'll start. It seems like a nightmare in there. Yeah, everything's wet. So gross. Men's bathrooms, everything just has a fine. It's like cold cuts in there. Why is everything wet?

Why does it need to be so wet? Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Uniformly wet. It's like, it's like, nightmare fuel. This liquid is purple on the ground. Like, what the fuck? Yeah. Don't, don't, don't ask too many questions about that.

I will say there's a lot of Melania signs around Los Angeles. And I got to, I got to say the, for her upcoming documentary. Fucking those up. Yeah. That I've seen, the bus, like the bus stop ads, it would be like, Melania is, uh, and then put your favorite words on. underneath that. Oh, God, I can only imagine.

Stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. What is Nicole something that you think is underrated? I think that, well, this is very specific, but the Manhattan Beach Public Library in L.A. Oh. It's so gorgeous. It's so beautiful. It's right by the water.

You've got like these incredible views, very, very calming. I mean, public libraries are like pretty great. And a lot of them in the last few years have been going through all these. renovations in major cities. It's just this deals like being in a little time capsule being in them. So all public libraries, but that one specifically. Wait, was that one like so nice? You felt like, you're like, is, is this a public library?

Exactly. Oh, okay. It's so gorgeous in here. This makes no sense. I saw, like, someone was posting how a library was selling their card catalog. Because, like, they were liquidating, like, everything inside. And like all these like bibliophiles are like,

where is it? I wanted. I need it. Because part of you like just seeing that bulky ass card catalog cabinet with the fucking brass handles and shit and the little screws that kept all the cards in. Like I looked at it and I go, I can smell it. I know. I already forgot how to use a duid decimal system,

but I will fucking remember. But there's just something. I don't know for whatever reason. That visual of a like now obsolete card catalog thing for that was a. was one of the first times I understood like when boomer's like, and this is my collection are record players. Yeah. Whatever.

And I'm like, yeah, whatever, bro. Then I'm like, the Dewey Decimal system in the card catalog. The Dewey Decimal System. Where else do we use it everywhere, I'm sure. But like, if you say Dewey Decimal System, card catalog immediately. It's the only thing. Yeah, yeah. You were doing your own.

What a win for Dewey, by the way. What a win for Dewey? Whatever he is, I hope he's happy. Amazing branding for that guy. Yeah. I still go to the public library. and I do have trouble with the Dewey Decimal System. I wanted to be like, yeah, that's one of those skills they told us we were going to need

and we didn't actually need. Turns out, I need it. And I suck at it. My way of dealing with the Dewey Decimal System is asking the library. And hey, can you help me find a book about Legos? My son really want book about Legos. Oh, no. Oh, you guys again.

Yeah. It's in the same place that it was last year. Why can't you learn? It's just numbers. And all this has happened, I go, man, let me learn more about Melville Dewey, the creator of the Dewey Decimal System. And then I, this is the shit. You go on Wikipedia, I'm always scanning for it.

Is there a controversy section? Yes, there is. Sexual harassment, anti-Semitism, and racism. Dewey. The Lake Placid Club banned Jews, blacks, and others from membership, a policy written by Dewey himself. No. Do we know?

Why'd you do it to us like that? Damn. We can't have anything nice. Not even one nice thing. I just, fuck it. It's the catalog. I don't need the decimal system.

I don't need, I don't need to recognize the system of organization, but merely the tangible cabinet that remains. There it is. There it is. The decimal system. That's what we call it. I feel like it's all,

like you can see that it was typed in a typewriter. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's smud ink smudges and shit. Oh, gosh. Dude, those mini pencils, they still got mini pencils at the library. They got mini pencils. Oh, yeah.

But they're like less, they're not like as around and as available. They're not trying to encourage the use of them. I'm not going to allow. I would golf courses. Exactly. Many golf courses have, I would take handfuls. I would take handfuls.

I would notelize the whole market. Yeah. You hate to see it. You hate to see it. What is something Nicole, do you think is overrated? Visuals. Visuals for everything. I just feel like very Beyonce in that.

way. I'm just exhausted of visuals. What's the latest, what's the latest visual that brought you here? They're like, okay, with the visuals. What was it? I don't, I don't even, I can't even think of it. I just feel like I open my phone and then it's just so much stuff to look at. I don't know. And you know what it is? Probably I follow so many fashion accounts. This is maybe on me. Okay. And it's just everything I open my phone. There's just some new outfit that you're meant to buy. It's crazier than the last one. It's more expensive but less material because the new dressing is so in.

Make it makes sense. What if we all just like turn this off and just wore whatever we want? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like, yeah, visuals. Like it's a lot. I'm always concerned. Like I saw something where there was a jacket and a vest that was similar to the jacket.

It was a down jacket and a down vest. And the vest was only $20 less. than the jacket. And I'm like, so those sleeves only cost $10 a piece? Like, whenever I see pricing like that,

like especially with the amount of fabric, I'm like, come the fuck on. But again, this is capital. There's a baby. Yeah, of course,

of course, that overrated, spoken like an award-winning audio show runner. Thank you. True. That's very true. I guess I have a...

I don't know if you've heard podcasts are pivoting to video, Nicole, Get on board. Come on. Even more visuals. My nine-year-old this weekend was like, I want to watch the podcast. And he was talking about an audio-only podcast that we've never watched before.

But I think it's just, you know, you listen to it and then something's happening in your imagination. Much happier when they're listening to something than when they're trying to watch something. That's what I think. Have your kids watched How It's Made? How It's Made. No, they do not. Bro. With Guy Ross?

Is that him? That, it was like a Canadian show used to be on the Science Channel would literally be like, this is how they make a fucking van. And it's just like in the factory line and it's just all process. Wow. I got my kid on that. He's fucking, he's like, what the fuck? They're making a van. I'm like, yes, fool.

Look at that. He's like, the tires. I'm like, the tires. Yes. Look. They do it all. And I just remember, I had like the same feeling when I was like, I think a stoner in college in that show first came out. I'm like, bro, this is how they make donuts, dude, at scale.

Donuts. All those shows are amazing. It is kind of wild. When you go get your nails done or where I get my nails done, they put up those videos. I feel like they're everywhere that are just like a person making a cake. And then you get like hypnotized. And it's like, wow, a lot goes into making a cake. I'll never know because I'm not baking.

But it's so it is kind of mesmerizing to learn how something is made. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, because it's like a lot of people say that about like a lot of videos on social media that do really well. people just like to see other people work and make stuff and do shit. Capitalism. Yeah, yeah. I mean, maybe it's from a era before capitalism when people were just like, oh, yeah, that's cool.

That's handy. Yeah, yeah. You're all just like doing it. I love it. All right. Let's take a quick break. You can check out some non-visual ads. We're going to come back.

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Radio app. Apple Podcasts or whatever you get your podcast. And we're back. We're back. And following the murder of Alex Pready over the weekend, the Democrats are seemingly trying to prove that they're not completely spineless and incompetent. It's a low bar. But they're, you know, they even dropped a fuckword on the social medias calling

Stephen Miller a fucking liar with blood on your hands. Whoa. Whoa. Someone at the DNC rolled their sleeves up for that tweet. Wow. They said, you're a fucking liar with blunt in your hands because Stephen Miller described the interaction with Pready is, quote, a would-be assassin tried to murder federal law enforcement and the official Democrat account sides with the terrorists. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But readers added context to Stephen Miller's thing also saying videos of the encounter shows that the gun was never drawn. Yeah. Of course, seven House Democrats just voted to pass the Trump. administrations, 1.2 trillion government funding package that includes $64 billion more for the government of Homeland Security or for the Department of Homeland Security and $10 billion more for ICE. So they kind of have blood on their hands too. Yeah. Yeah. Only a couple. It's funny because after it's wild, after that vote happened, Alex Prettie's killed. And then you had some, some of these Democrats being like, what happened is unacceptable. And people were like,

excuse me, you just fucking signed off on money for them. And then like I think right as- Because we want them to be trained. Yeah, exactly. Right. As of right now, the only person I've seen who's actually like owned up to the fact that they fucking voted to fund ICE,

as Tom Swozy from New York, he said, quote, I hear the anger from many of my constituents and I take responsibility for that. I have long been critical of ICE's unlawful behavior. And I must do a better, job demonstrating that. How'd you, how'd you

had your critical advice? How'd you end up voting for that? Well, I'll do a better job demonstrating that. So, like, if I vote for it, then I'll explain why ice bad. I will say fuck on social media. Yeah, right there for God and my mother to see. Yeah, it's really,

I mean, it's just like, this is the kind of thing too when, because MAGA and the Republican Party is so clear on where it stands. that it's such a double-edged sword for Democrats because it allows them to lean into their worst habit even harder, which is to do nothing and merely gesture at the Republicans and be like, well, we're not that bad. Right.

But at the same time, you'd hope that the way the blade cuts the other way is that you can actually lean into the, like, actual moral outrage that is being experienced by many people and tap into something and maybe do something different, bring something like change rather than like, hey, next time, I'll do. a better job on demonstrating my, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I feel like I would love for them to save some of that smoke for Democrats who vote for shit like this rather than, like, because, you know, Stephen Miller is already, like, obviously lying like that. I mean, that's fine, but, like, I want to see that same shit from, you know, mainstream Democrats pointed at the people who, like, a lot of people were talking those weekend about the rotating villain theory where they, like, have people whose turn it is to go ahead. vote for the evil thing.

And like it's a way to, I guess, spread it out so that nobody gets like all the tainting, like coming to them. But like at the same time, that also just feels like when you enter a criminal organization and they're like, you're going to have to kill someone to like prove that you're cool. Do this line in front of us, you know? Like they're just making sure that everybody's like in line. and willing to vote for the bad thing right to prove that they're a democrat which i just i don't know it feels like getting organized around spinelessness is not what we need from from no no

especially when you've seen a group like capitulate the way they have just over the last year many times when they had or working towards having some kind of meaningful leverage to get the administration to do something different they're like yeah i don't even know if i can shut down this fucking ended. I don't know. Who cares? Oh, the shutdown was so hard. It was like, and they had everybody, the momentum behind them, everybody backing them. It just feels a lot of times like they have not fully come to terms with the fact that we are in something very dark and very dangerous and very different than whatever they experienced in the 60s, 70s, I mean, this is totally different. But the league has lunch with those guys. Yeah, exactly. Right. Like,

doesn't mean it. He's not going to, they would never, you know, do it. It's like, yeah, they mean it. Yeah, they do it. They're doing it. You gotta stop. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's all context for Chuck Schumer coming through, taking to social media to call for ICE to leave Minnesota. He did use some capital letters. Yeah. Ice out of Minnesota now. So, okay, man waves fist at cloud. Mm-hmm. How do you need, but you actually, you might. So what are you going to do? What's everybody going to do? Because that's what everyone's talking. I used the all caps on now. Okay. No, I meant like legislatively, like using the powers that are available to you as like a sitting senator of the United States. Is there actually not my turn to do the difficult thing? We actually have a rotating group of people who do difficult things. So, so we're going to talk about it. We're taking it under advisement. There's another, there's actually another congressperson who is doing like a light mea culpa.

because they're like, why would you vote for this bill? Why? Why? This is Representative Gonzalez from Texas. He said, this is Vicente Gonzalez. He said, quote, let me make it clear. My vote was not to fund ICE, but what I was voting for was to ensure that our agencies here in South Texas were funded.

But I guess ICE too. I guess that's, I guess. I get you, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's tough. The time frame with the tie-ins, whatever. Yeah. If you want to fund this, you got to.

on that. Right. And like this bill again, that they're even like, well, you know what? We got to like, we got to really make sure we're getting concessions out of the, out of the Trump administration, if we're going to vote for this malarkey. And it's all incrementalism. It's not the kind of things that slams the brakes on the killings. It's just, it's like with more sparkle emojis. They want, quote, an independent federal state investigation, which includes Minnesota officials of ICE murders and tactics. A ban on ice use of face masks. Face masks. Body cameras. A ban on rolling. Where have I heard that before? I feel like that. That's been used as a solution before. I'm surprised. Are they not even wearing body cameras? Doesn't seem. I think some might be,

but overall. But yeah, by the way, there is $20 million in funding for body cameras in the current appropriations bill. They're not mandatory though. We're not trying to be hard asses here. Right. Oh, my God. And at least the body cams, which you can't, like, when they set them up so that you can't turn them off. That's like a small but huge thing that came out of the Ferguson protest that have been able to, like, bring additional accountability and justice. It's not everything, but it's something. So to know that they're not even doing that. Right.

And it also is used as a surveillance tooled by the police. Like that's one of the unfortunate side effects of body cameras. They're like, yeah, actually, we were trying to get funding for this already. So thanks. Yeah. What else we got in here, Miles? Oh, man. Just ban on the administrative warrants that are basically, they're like, oh, we don't need a judicial warrant to like enter a house.

They're just going off the vibes of that there's no laws. The thing in the Constitution? Yeah, sure. Or whatever. I don't know, whatever, whatever that, the thing from fucking National Treasure, I guess. So they're adding, they're doing. They're doing the thing. I don't know.

That's from a movie, bro. What the fuck, though? They're doing the thing where they're like, and could you like, please stop? Like, this is now a, a tactic where, like, negotiating is something that's, like, illegal under the Constitution that, like, they should be busy taking to the fucking Supreme Court right now. Yeah, I mean, like to even say, use the term law enforcement with these people who do not abide by the law is beyond laughable. But again, that's still, if we're looking at this in the context of we believe what their stated mission is as an organization, which is to enforce immigration. That's not what this is. This is they're trying to terrify people.

They're doing what they intend to do. Right. Yeah, exactly. and show people if you want to, quote unquote, interfere or hold us to account, then we are actually, we've been ordained by the state to end your life. And we will not see consequences. As Greg Bovino just said, they whisked the shooters out of Minnesota already. Unbelievable.

And they're like, are they still on the streets? He's like, well, you know, they're not on the streets in Minnesota. They're on, like, just being really fucking, I don't know if you saw, he had an interview with Dana Bash on CNN on Sunday. And he just kept saying the same bullshit over and over again, even though on CNN they're like, oh, let's look at the tape right now. Can you show me right where you're saying this happened?

Because it doesn't show that. He's like, well, we're doing our own investigation. Like, can you, we'd love, we would love to fucking see what you're going off of. Where is that? Because we have, we have like five angles and it's all showing the same thing. And he still could not, you know, he's just like, which probably is why there's a lot of, damage control happening.

Yeah. So that is something like we, I think we talked yesterday that there are some Republicans who are being like, like Susan Collins being like, I want a transparent investigation. Right. People who are, you know, Susan Collins is out, right? I mean, she's,

she's always going to do, she's always going to play the part of concerned senator who does fuck all when it, when, when, you know, when it's time to do it, when it's time to get busy. But then you have like Lisa Murkowski or Tom Tillis. Like some of them are retiring. So they're doing the, oh, I'm going to turn up because I'm not running for reelection anymore.

So watch me say things outside like breaking the lines with the regime. Like James Comer, again, there's like a lot of headlines. They're like, there are fractures on the right. But I think people need to dial that back a little bit. I would describe these as shook ones are speaking out of turn, but with not. much conviction. Right. Because James Comer said, quote, if I were President Trump, I would almost think about if the mayor and the governor are going to put our ICE officials in harm's way and there's a chance of losing more innocent life.

Yeah, great description of what we saw in that video. Exactly. Exactly. Then maybe go to another city? So that was him kind of be like, maybe I believe. I don't know. If not, I tried to toe the line. I think we're winning them over guys.

Yeah. Yeah. Go to another city. Go to another city. Did he try, just do this again, but just not here, please. Well, and they keep saying, like, they think Philadelphia is going to be next. And every Philadelphia is like, have you been to Philadelphia? Oh, my God.

You don't want to do that. We'll need a piece of for shit just because. Yeah. You don't like to please don't. That's exactly what Blake says when we were talking about this. Billy. Because, but that's also terrifying, right? Because if they're built a little bit differently, you can see the escalation happening there.

that they so desperately, the administration so desperately wants. Senator Pete Ricketts from Nebraska called the situation, quote, horrifying and said that they should prioritize a transparent investigation, but then he came back and said, but my support for funding ICE has not changed. Yeah. You know, so it's like the Republicans, again, don't worry about them. Even the ones you think are trying to do something, they're not doing shit. They're not going to do it.

Yeah. They're just asking questions. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But I think, again, when you look at just even the pundits and the words of the administration right now, there's, it feels like the right wing propaganda machine doesn't know which direction to pedal because there's, there's backpedaling on the, on the subject. There's regular peddling. Just like, it's maybe fine. We have to look at the investigation first before you come to conclusion.

And then there's people straight peddling more bullshit. So you're like, I don't know. There's clearly not a unified message on how to do this. Like, for example, Benny Johnson, a famous bullshit mouthpiece for the regime, was saying that Prattie was a paid agitator and terrorist who pulled the gun on agents. So he was killed in self-defense. A lot of other right-wing social media pundits or whatever Nazi freaks on Twitter are just saying, like, Prattie was a terrorist.

And they all tried to justify it by claiming something happened that absolutely. did not, which was that he drew his weapon. Right. And everyone's like, bro, there's none of, nothing shows that at all. He didn't even, they disarmed him and then he was killed. So, okay, sure. The administration seemingly has tried to cool the rhetoric, probably because no one believes the Fed's version of events and Trump's approval rating has him just firmly in the,

we need to rig the midterms territory. which they're trying to do. As we talked about on yesterday's episode, they were like, we'll leave, be a shit, nice city you have here, be a shame if something happened to it.

We'll leave Minneapolis if you just give us all that vote. Give us the data. Give us the voter data now. And you're like, what the fuck are y'all talking about? Because again, it's not about immigration enforcement,

even, like, never was, okay? And so there's also the, like, spokespeople are backpading. Caroline Levitt broke ranks with Christian, Nome and Greg Bovino and she was like, look, the president hasn't used the words

domestic terrorist to describe this person like these other two cabinet officials have. And then she said that Tom Holman would be the point person on Minnesota operations, meaning Bovino and Nome are sideline in that sense. Like if you want, but Tom Homan is the least articulate fucking person. He's like a walking brain injury. And he's like, Yeah, the thing you got understand about the humble somebody. He's like, whoa. He's going to get out there and say, who knows what. But that's where they're at in terms of trying to reorient a bus for people to be thrown under.

Because I think Trump's also said, he posts on truth. So she's like, I'm talking to Governor Walsh, and we want this to be worked out. So he's even taking the position of like, okay, let me solve a problem, which, again, is very different than when, you know, Renee Good was killed. And it was very much like, no, I don't know what fuck you're talking about? no, that was bad. And that's, we're going to keep, we're going to keep moving forward. I think they've just lost steam narratively to keep doing that without it becoming just even more laughable. The deputy attorney general Todd Blanche was on Fox and he was pressed about the hasty conclusion the DOJ put out that Prattie was a domestic terrorist. And he even tried to pretend

that this was a tragedy, which was a little bit. I was like, oh, I thought you're, you're just going to go all in on being like, no, no, no. Everything was done by the letter of the law. But here's the deputy agent. talking about it and trying to describe the killing as a, quote, tragedy. With all due respect, with all due respect, sir, my question is more pointed, do you believe your colleagues may have gone farther? You are an attorney, a DOJ, 18 U.S. Code 2331, it has a legal definition of domestic terrorism, and it doesn't appear to most of the country that have watched the available video

and we'll see if there's body cam video. I'd love to know if that's going to come out, if there was such a thing, but it does not appear to have met that definition of domestic terrorism. So I'm just sort of wondering how you in the DOJ are viewing whether your colleagues may have gone too far. Look, I don't think anybody thinks that they were comparing what happened on Saturday to the legal definition of domestic terrorism. First of all, but they just use the phrase, the legal phrase. They just use the legal definition of domestic terrorism to describe him.

Like, Christy know him straight up. Probably anyone thinks that. Again. We said it, but we don't mean. So, look, he tried it. He tried it. And now he's going to try and pivot to be like, now let me soften this thing. We were joking.

Like, it's literally like, oh my God. Wait, you thought we were being serious about that? Just because the head of Homeland Security designated someone as a domestic terrorist, do you think she's being serious and using legal definitions? Oh, my God, guys. At a time when, like, the whole world's eyes was on this event. And she came through with that. you think we were being literal?

Right. No, no, no, no. It's called poetic license. This is how he describes it. So it wasn't domestic terrorism. So what is it? What we saw was a very violent altercation. And I am not going to prejudge the facts.

You're right. There's a bunch of video that's out there. There's a bunch of video that we haven't seen yet in the minutes leading up to what happened and in what happened afterwards. And you're right. To the extent there's body cam or other videos that witnesses are still providing to us. So I'm not describing it as anything except

for a tragedy. The video that I've seen like starts pretty early. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You see them get out of their cars. Attacking a woman and him coming up to try to protect that woman. Right. Like I don't, what?

Not even like protect. Not even like, yo, like stop fucking where the he's like, hey, are you okay? Let me help you up. These fuckers just shoved you over. Yeah. And then like how much earlier we can go. We're going to see what do you have for breakfast? Well, no, go back about 14 years to this tweet we found or some shit or whatever they're going to fucking use. That's exactly it. Or his brother or his cousin who is attached to something. And again, this is the same playbook they run on black people, people, other people of color that

are killed by police where it's like, we already know, you killed an innocent person and then you're going to start smearing them. And you might find, you might, yeah, you might find some out of context photo and be like, well, look, did you see that? The guy had a mean look in this picture. It's like, I don't know what the fuck is like. It looks like a high school football photo. Have you seen anybody in high school? They all try to look fucking tough.

So another one is Judge Andrew Napolitano. He was on Newsmax and he was straight up like, no, this is a fucking murder. Which Napolitano, he's like a, he does the broken clock thing every now and then. Like he'll, he'll, he'll be like, man, Trump's a fucking mess other times. He'll be caping for the cop. But here's Andrew Napolitano on Newsmax, though. This is his take when the anchor's like, I don't know, what do you think is going on here? In this particular case, they did remove his gun.

I understand them removing his gun if they're going to restrain him. Right. Then they shot him in the back while he was on his belly on the ground. That's called murder. And that's an issue that the feds are going to have to work with. And the state, once it gets the evidence in the case is going to have to work with. So to that MAGA judge, he was like, uh, I don't know what I'm like to look. Looks bad guys.

I don't know. It's usually easier for me to defend law enforcement for this kind of thing. But that's, that's kind of where things are. And I think it definitely like it's weird for all of the bluster you see out of the administration, they occasionally do the thing where they act like the fucking puppy that shit all over the carpet. And it's like, oh, did I? Yeah, it's true. And try and sort of like be like,

oh, we're trying to remedy this or whatever. But I mean, at this point, I don't know. No one should take any of the words that I do the administration seriously in terms of them acting as if there's any regret or anything like that. They're all just trying to manage the optics because they don't want to come off as what they are,

which is a bloodthirsty regime that could care less about anyone being killed if they're standing in the way. And they're trying to overthrow democracy, as we saw, an hour after the shooting. They were like, we'll leave. if you give us the voter records. And that probably feels like a dead end to them at this point because there's so much attention on that email. Like they kind of fuck that one up.

So now they're maybe backpedaling away from this particular battle to go do it somewhere else. Yeah. But again, yeah, but again, I think in the wise words of Marjorie Taylor Green, we are being incited into a civil war. You know what I mean? they are trying every, every moment, every provocation from ice is, again, they want the pot to boil over and have massive unrest so they can say, guys, look at what's happening. Yeah. We're not going to have an election if this is how you guys are going to act. Yeah.

And straight up. That is what they're going to do. And then hope that people are so worn down at that point that we don't press back when they try and fully abscond with the entire thing. I mean, they're probably about 60% complete. here. Yeah. But I think that's why, like I was saying on Monday's episode, seeing the general strike in Minnesota should be the beginnings of a pattern for how more cities are going to respond collectively because, you know, obviously like the person-to-person confrontations help to delay things, but there's something about the collective action too that will help. And I think

also kind of like really accepting the fact that we can't really count on these legislators to help us at the person level. And we all need to begin using the skills that we have to community build and to communicate and find like like-minded people to really begin to create those sort of structures that keep us protected and looking out for each other because like, you know, I see it all like in LA, especially after the fires. So many like so many different kinds of mutual aid networks have propped up and they're just shifting gears. So like if you follow this one account, they're now fully on like help this vendor who was just kidnapped, help this family who like had someone taken away, they need this or that.

Those things are existing and you just got to find them and get involved. And it's at least the, it's the easiest way to not feel fully fucking overwhelmed by everything that's happening because I completely understand what people are like, I don't even, I don't even know what to do. It's like, that's the fucking point. That's, they want everybody. Right. I don't even know what to do because everyone goes, okay, you want to fuck with me, Ben,

let me get together with all my people and let me make sure everybody's good on my side. Because if, if this is really about protecting each other, then at least, you know, you have to get ready if you stay ready. Yeah. Hey. There is more of us than there are of them. Yeah. And again, what they're doing is wildly unpopular.

And their God is money. And their God is money. Their God is money. Their God is money. If you fuck with their God, they start feeling like, oh, God, maybe Greenland isn't a thing. Do you see what happened to the bond market? Oh, God.

Uh, uh, because at the end of the day, that's the one thing that these people think will keep them from justice is wealth. Yeah. I feel like if I get rich enough, if I can, if I can keep people three socioeconomic classes away from me, then I probably won't get touched. And that's, and you see that with all the greed that's happening. These people, those people aren't real, you know, the people who are three economic, socioeconomic classes below me, they're not actually real. They're just a, just an idea that I can easily dismiss in my head. It's the cast of the musical Oliver, I think.

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Yeah. And just real quick, the same day, on Saturday, the same day that ICE murdered, another protester, the White House hosted a fancy film screening, the world premiere of Amazon's Melania. The documentary slash obvious bribe directed by Brett Ratner when we say obvious bribe. We're, of course, referring to the fact that Amazon paid $40 million. Yep. For the rights. For the rights. To put it on Amazon Prime.

Yeah. A documentary? Yeah. $40 million. You know what the total price tag of this fucking thing you know is? It's $75 million because Amazon put $35 million in. to marketing and distribution. They're trying to put this thing everywhere.

That's more than even the Taylor Swift era's documentary put into theirs. Although I feel like they don't have to spend shit to get the word out for them. I don't know if that's a good comparison. That is not how film studios work. They don't go over it. This is already popular, so we're not going to put money.

They're like, oh, this is already popular. We're going to put five times the money into this. They use, like, tracking data to see if, like, people are interested in. And then they just like triple down until, you know, the only thing you know is that there's a third Avatar movie coming out. Yeah. This we can always be certain. Yeah, that's right.

We all know. We all know they're not stopping during our lifetime. No way. But, yeah. So they did this at the White House because obviously they couldn't do it anywhere else. They turned the White House into a red carpet, brought in. and some top-notch washed-up dirtbags such as Tony Robbins, and then Mike Tyson was there, which hurts my heart.

Yes. I mean, he's always been on. I mean, yeah, no. You know what's why? Like Zoom CEO, Eric Yon, and Apple CEO Tim Cook also came. Like that, what the fuck are people doing? Yeah. Well, I mean, we know what they're. doing. Right. They're just,

they're just ensuring that their exit position is strong. Everyone has, everyone has an exit position. They're saying, how do I survive right now? And how do I look out the other end of this? Because if you're running a gigantic company, Apple, he's like, well, the line sure as fuck

isn't going down. So I'm not going to invite the ire of this administration. And that will also help me build a bunker that is even deeper in the earth's surface to hide myself from the automated guillotines that are developed for the world. And they are so motivated by bunkers. They do so many.

They love a bunker. They love a bunker. Yeah. They love a bunker. They love a island. Oh, my God. They love an island. They love, as we've discussed before, having conversations amongst each other about

whether you have to plan to shoot the pilot. who flies you and your family to the island because otherwise he's gonna go back at his family and want some of your food. So you gotta, you gotta take him out. That's a real, that's a real quote from somebody who's like, I am a VC, like, multi-millionaire

in Silicon Valley. I'll tell you a conversation. I've heard not once, many times, among the people up there is. They always, they're always trying to figure that part out. What do I do with the workers? Of my bonkers. Yes, that is very classic.

Yeah. Yeah. Once I get what I need from them, I don't want to feed them or protect them. So how do I do it? And then like they'll just run all these fucking weird thought experiments. But yeah, like apparently like Jeff Bezos has himself was being like, you got to make this fucking movie do something. You got to.

Because again, like look, Tim Cook's there. And obviously Jeff Bezos secured his position by being like, yeah, I will pay. I don't care. Just say a number. How much money do you want me to give you? And let's just exchange some kind of product. So it seems like not a total grease payment, but it is. So, yeah.

We're going to need some citizen journalists because they're going to buy a bunch of tickets. We're going to need some citizen journalists to go to these theaters and film the empty theaters that are supposedly sold out. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you think, that's the thing is like even the early ticket sales are low. I wonder if they're going to do that thing where they're like, well, let's see what the people do before we fully, fully put our thumbs on this scale.

Yeah, I think that's what they're going to do. They're not going to let this be a total flogne. Yeah, they're released it at one. But they're dumb, but they're dumb and it will be. And they're not, they're not like, if you're really worried about it, you would have bought out all the fucking the, the seat at the beginning. Like it was one of those human trafficking movies that those QAnon freaks do. And they're like, just show up, bro.

It's free tickets. It's free tickets. But I just don't. With this, it feels like maybe they're trying to just see like, well, look, off the strength of the, nope, nope, because all the projections are like, dude, they're going to be death. Of course. Yeah, you're going to have fucking tumbleweeds blowing down the fucking aisles

because it's going to be so empty. But sure, sure. There have been like two documentaries ever that did well at the box office. You know, there's been like supersized me and Fahrenheit 911. Like those are like bowling for Columbine. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like if those movies make like, I don't know, $10 million or something. Yeah, yeah.

Not however much they put it. How much you said they put into this thing? 75 million. That's the bill they have. This needs to make $75 million plus a dollar for it to be considered a profit. It's just all, it's all nonsense. So we'll wait and see. Yeah, I will be awaiting reviews of that.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Doesn't sound like it's going to be that great. The people have seen it. They're like, I don't know, but sure. I guess it's a documentary. I don't know. Do you want to talk about Brett Ratner? No?

Okay. Fine. But anyways, in the same way that the Gestapo ICE agents are keeping a database of names of people who take video of them, I feel like we got to keep an eye on all the people who like go to these sorts of things. Just be like, hey, we're not going to forget that. Yeah. And say, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Yeah. What exactly? did you think you was doing. Yes. All right. Nicole, it's been such a pleasure having you on the show. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? All of my

business is on the internet. You can follow me on social at either our ancestors were messy. Well, you follow me there and at Nicole with an H. So it's N-I-C-H-O-L-E-W-T-H and H. I've never had to really like say that out loud.

It's not as smooth. Yeah, it's tough. If you do it enough, though, you'll find a cadence. But it's literally like, you know when you have one of those names, I never thought about it until I talked to Nicole's without Natchez. And they're like, I'd just say my name's Nicole. I was like, oh, I always have to say it's Nicole with the name. It's like literally my name.

It's the classy, the classy spelling. Oh, thank you. I knew somebody named that in high school. We always call her Nicholl. Yes. That was kind of the nickname. Yeah, yeah. It's like, okay, Nichol.

Yeah. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? and I am going to say it can't be the new Melania documentary. Oh, my God. That was my thing, though. Whoops. No, you know, there's a Chilean protest song. I don't know how to say it in Spanish,

but in English, it's the people united will never be defeated. And this American composer, Frederick something, performs this song in 36 variations and takes you through like the history of the piano by just performing the song over and over and over again. And I think I am on Variations 8. I'm, like, making my way through. I want to listen to all of them.

I mean, he put on a concert, and it was this huge celebratory, like, protest moment. I think it was in early 2000s, and I just love it. And I think at this moment, it's just giving me some peace and some hope. Yeah, you know, we're going to fight. Hell yeah.

Miles. Where can people find you? And is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah. Find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Find me chatting sheet about the Premier League. Holy fuck. Arsenal's had a real weird, weird result. And now the internet, dude, everyone hates that we're doing well. So the second, it's like the Celtics, right? Like when the Celtics, like when they were prime Celtics, they wow. I'm like, ha, ha, ha, ha. That's kind of what's happening. And it's, it's hard. But you know what? I still believe. So check out Ain't It Footy. That's the soccer show. And then also 90-day Fiancee is happening on 420-day Fiance. A work, a media

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wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom, you will find the footnotes. Footnotes. Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy?

Let's go out on something nice and easy. Just something that feels soothing to hear. It's El Michaels Affair, which is a great band. But with Clero on the vocals, The song is called Anticipate, and it just feels like, you know, you can just kind of feel good listening to some music right now, which I'm sure we all need. So, yeah, anticipate. El Michaels Affair. Hey, speaking of something that you can feel good about, we do have our 2000th episode.

2000s coming up a week from today, Jr. Today. Yeah. Yeah. And we are asking you for your favorite memories, your predictions for the next 2000. We will link off to that in the footnotes. where you can contribute. Yes.

Give us your name. I announced it in the Discord server. A lot of people already replying directly to me in the Discord server, which I love, which I love. But please use a Google forum. That way we can put everything together because we'd love to read off some of your favorite memories. Because honestly, Jack and I were like, we were like, what if we counted down our favorite memories? And we were like looking down like, what? I don't remember.

What memories? I don't know anymore. Help us, jog our memories. Yeah, yeah. So our listeners are so funny. There are some fucking really good ones. Just people reflexively fired off, like, as their favorite. And I was in an instant time machine.

Oh, my God. So, again, everybody who's participated, thank you. If you're thinking about it, please send us your favorite memory and predict your favorite memory for the next 2,000 episodes because it'll help your old grandpas feel good. Help your old grandpa feel good. Superfrews are on it, Hosni. I shared a picture from the early days.

where we were recording with tinfoil hats on. And I still don't. That did not jog my memory. Was that with Josh Androsky? I think it was with Jekis. Oh, I feel like we've done tinfoil hats a few times. Have we?

Yeah. Yeah. Damn. This is one that was really nice. I just want to call this one. This is from Cascadian 83 on the Discord. It said, not a single moment for me,

but I seem to recall early on the podcast, someone commenting about how Jack and Miles seemingly like were good friends. And they said, yeah, we don't really talk much outside of the podcast. and seeing them go from coworkers to friends over the years has been really sweet. Aw. Oh.

What is my heart? Yeah. We still don't talk before or after we hit record. Nope. That's it. Look, that's how you keep a marriage. It's nice. There's separate beds.

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