The Daily Zeitgeist - White Guy Gets Away With Murder (Again), Waterworld Is Real 11.22.21

Episode Date: November 22, 2021

In episode 1035, Jack and Miles are joined by journalist and host of Very Amusing Carlye Wisel, to discuss America Still A White Supremacist, Violent Shit Scape, With Defund The Police Losing Popularity What’s The Path Forward?, The World Sees A Shitty Offshore Oil Rig Saudi Arabia Sees The Next Disney World and more! America Still A White Supremacist, Violent Shit Scape Black People Formed One of the Largest Militias in the U.S. Now Its Leader Is In Prosecutors’ Crosshairs. With Defund The Police Losing Popularity What’s The Path Forward? Many cities are rethinking the police, but what are the alternatives? The World Sees A Shitty Offshore Oil Rig Saudi Arabia Sees The Next Disney World Listen: Very Amusing with Carlye WiselListen: ODIUM by LXST CXNTURY Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just

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I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 212, Episode 1 of The Daily Zeitgeist! A production of iHeartRadio. women's sports. national cranberry relish day for everybody getting ready for the thanksgiving does cranberry relish

like tie in just like cran sauce cranberry all that shit you know i don't know i i'm guessing but i i wish i cared enough i don't like cranberry sauce like it's one of the things i don't mess with at thanksgiving so i have very low uh not much interest yeah but i'm guessing it's like the fancy kind that's not in a can because the can feels like jelly, but then when you're like cooking yourself with cranberries and you got like some real cranberry fruit meat in there, then you're in relish town.

Yeah, yeah. I relish a good log of cranberry gel. I used to love that shit. Just put it on a deli slicer. There you go. It's real. Just window pane thin. Yeah.

Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Hey, I just met you. This might seem shady, but here's my podcast. Come guest it maybe. It makes me tired. We drop twice daily, but here's my podcast. Come guest it, maybe. That is courtesy of Johnny Davis.

I don't know how he found out how I reach out to every one of our guests, but that is, in fact, I just reach out to them and send them a voice memo. One of the few times I use a voice memo. Anyways, I also don't know why it seems shady to ask somebody to be on a podcast. Eh, these days. These days. These days. Am I right? Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.

Hey, it's Miles Gray. Don't have much of an AKA except for the traditional one, which is it's North Hollywood's very own black and these experimental visual artists. You know me as your boy, Kusama. Thank you for having me. Well, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny comedian and reporter who, as a lifestyle journalist, flew across the country to be snubbed by Kim Kardashian and locked herself inside the Mall of America.

But these days, her beat is Disney and everything theme parks. And her writing has appeared in Vanity Fair, GQ, Wirecutter, Bloomberg, Glamour, Time, Vox. Heard of those. Just all the ones. Her podcast, Very Amusing About Theme Parks, is super fun. Please welcome the brilliant and talented Carly Wiseau! Hello!

Hello, hello, hello. I'm so happy to be here. Thank you for being here. Where on earth are you coming to us from? Currently, West Hollywood. Oh, shit. I thought you were going to be inside the Magic Castle or whatever. I mean, I was inside the Star Wars Hotel about four days ago. Oh, you went?

Yeah. Oh, what was it like? It was interesting. What was it like it was interesting we got a very early preview of it but i've never been so excited to not see the sun right wow right right right i just want to be all in there for a day and a half straight just soaking it up oh man why do you not see the sun and by the way this does tie back to the kyle rittenhouse uh thing because we are saying not see but right Why do you not see the sun? And by the way, this does tie back to the Kyle Rittenhouse thing because we are saying not see. But why do you not see the sun while you are in the Star Wars hotel?

Because every window looks out onto space. Yeah. What? It's a projection. Yeah. So like you're looking at a ship. Yeah. It opens March 1st and we got to see the cabins or like, you know, each hotel room, which I was very excited to see in real life.

And the window is truly like just out into space and it changes throughout the day. And then at night you push a button and a little cover goes up like you're really on a ship and you can sleep in a top bunk. I'm very excited about it. That's so cool. That's like as we were talking about regressing the other day. That's like as we were talking about regressing the other day. And I'm like, that's the only thing I can do right now is like I want to put on a costume and pretend I'm a space worker for however expensive those rooms are at the moment. But oh, yeah, I'll save my money to do it right.

Is the experience they're replicating the experience of being on the Death Star? What are we what are we looking at here? So unfortunately not. Yes and no. So the official experience is called Star Wars Galactic Star Cruiser. It's a two-night mix of hotel stay, immersive theater, interactive gameplay, etc. And there's a narrative throughout the journey

or your hotel stay. And at the end, there's a finale that involves the First Order. So anything could happen. But there is I did spend part of it in the gameplay training at the bridge. And I got to attack some TIE fighters, which was very fun. That's cool. Yeah.

Damn. All right. Well, we are going to get to know you a little bit better. Just the coolest beat that someone could have. So, yeah, we're going to talk a little bit more about that. But first, a few of the things we're talking about. America is still a white supremacist violent shitscape, which we learned on Friday morning.

I've learned for many years. Reminded again. Relearned, reminded Friday morning. We'll look at where we're at with the defund the police movement and just what the alternatives are to that. We will talk about a new theme park that Carly, I'm guessing you will not be going to and like getting an early look at. But I could I could be wrong about that. It's called the rig.

Oh, wait till you hear all about it. It's in Saudi Arabia. It's part of saudi arabia's rebranding effort yeah which is fun before we get to any of that shit carly we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history so related all of it was star wars terms that i was spell checking except for who is that defense attorney on svu i don't know why i thought google would know which one I was talking about. But I have been I mean, I've been mainlining Law & Order SVU for the past two

ish weeks, to the point where I will watch anywhere between four and 10 episodes a day. I can't get enough. I know I'd never really seen it. I thought I didn't like violence apparently i do only when mariska hargitay is there it's basically like my my new personality hobby and job all in one yeah so are you're late to the svu part i feel like svu is have you always been messing with svu no i'm literally 500 episodes late i don't know what happened wow yeah because i feel like that it's interesting to hear people like i'm just getting into svu where most people were like man i'll ask svu has been uh my number one forever that i don't talk about but yeah i think part of it might be because lately when you binge watch a show if they dump the whole thing at once you know you spend a saturday night and then it's over this never ends it's bottomless and i just keep going and going and going and i'm i'm still like

seasons away it's still in the modern era of it where right right there's just i can't i can't stop consuming it have you been to the immersive svu experience at six flags i honestly don't know if that's a joke or not if it's real i'm gonna part of me was like is it a walkthrough right yeah i could see that actually like a crime scene yeah i just want to go in their office right right yeah it feels like an installation you'd have it like a halloween horror nights or something where it's like oh do a crime scene with people at svu or like csi or some shit like that but no no, I guess not. Oh, I wish. Oh, how I wish. I also love, though, too. I mean, I've watched it here and there,

but never, you know, to the point where, you know, they're definitely fans of the show. But I also like the idea of, you know, when you get into a show, you're like, I like this show. And you're like, there's only three seasons. Whereas you're looking at it, you're like, there's hundreds of episodes

that I've yet to even begun to experience. So let this, long may it last for you. Thank you. I know there's definitely some deep-seated psychological reason where I'm like, it'll never run out. It'll never abandon me like my other favorite shows. But at least for now, I just love it because in every episode, there's about 30 seconds where they reference being actual people that exist in New York City. Well, they'll get a coffee at a coffee cart or they'll be like, come on, we'll go make dinner. And I think I'm just living for that.

Like the moments in my brain that I can piece together to make them sort of SVU sitcom. I think that's really where the joy lies. Like that's the best part of the show. Yeah. I have some SVU slash fix that I can send your way. It's but it's all just about them living very boring, ordinary lives in between the crimes. That's kind of what I want. They're like roommates.

They could be talking about the most interesting stuff when they get home. Like what happened at work today? And it's like nothing. Yeah. Like you want to watch Lost or something? They're like, yeah, okay. It's called SVU Days Off. And it's just their days off going to the Met.

They're like, actually, if you treat New York like you're a tourist in your own town, it's really nice. We should try that Halal guy's car. What's something you think is overrated? Okay, I don't know if this technically counts, but only having trees in your house during Christmas. So as a Jewish person, I did not know until our year 2020 that you have to keep them in water to keep them alive. I didn't realize there was this whole gambit happening where you take a tree and it's slowly dying and then you put it in your house. And I kind of want, I want to be in this. I want a fresh tree in my home and it's only appropriate during christmas time why not year round i want a home forest yeah oh a home for okay so multiples like if i'm allowed to buy flowers why can't i buy a tree in march just to make things feel more outdoorsy right yeah oh yeah oh my gosh i man it's i i love a christmas tree and i've always been i only recently switched to the fake ones to reuse every year because i am also like a big like symmetry shape kind of fanatic so when i go to the tree lot and i'm like a hundred dollars for

this lopsided mess out of here and then you're like oh this one is the same height just because it looks better it's 50 more this is nonsense but i've moved to the fake tree version but i there's something about having the real life tree that it's there's like there are scent sickles and things you can hang off a fake tree to make it sort of smell like you have the real thing but having the real thing is definitely uh it's a journey. But also when the needles start coming off and then you're like, I got this old dead tree I got to deal with. I don't know. I'm all over the place with trees, but I love the idea. Yeah. And by the end of the holiday season, I've yet to figure out.

I think I did have something I did wrong last year that if I was a better host, I would remember and tell people to avoid doing that this year. But like it basically I sealed off the bottom of the the la fire department if they had like known how dry the tree was that we were keeping in our house the one time we tried to do the fake tree the smell sickles the scent sickles weren't great have they improved that i mean anna has she she has like a fake tree she uses so she she got me using them and they're fine right like okay but you know it is nothing compares to the sorry what's a a scent sickle is like a little thing you can hang off your fake tree that's like a odor it's like a fucking tree freshener basically so it's just in you know it's just emitting this scent of real pine tree for your fake for the

fake tree havers out there i mean is everyone bad at marketing like why isn't there a cherry blossom season version of this why can't i have a tree in my house yeah yeah oh actually right because you you're saying you would even just love just ambiently that smell of nature just rushing through the house yeah and it's's apparently only appropriate if you celebrate a certain holiday. Yeah, okay, right. Let's bring the trees back into the home. Yeah. Please.

Now, does anybody keep the tree alive, like the Christmas tree? I guess it would have to be a small Christmas tree, right? To have it potted, essentially? Yeah, I mean, without roots i mean right is up right yeah you know as i found out as a kid i was like no let's put water in it and then it's just like no sorry it's not going to live for that long yeah what is something you think is underrated i feel very strongly about this and i don't know why lately it's really risen up as a topic for me, but indoor pools. I love an indoor pool.

And everyone thinks they're gross, but do you know how nice it would be to just have one in the winter and have a pool party or just be able to go down a slide in the middle of the workday without leaving your house? I love them, and I wish people built them more. I wish it was more of a normal thing you could go and do. I feel like in Florida and stuff, people have, like, it's normal there. I've seen that.

Yeah, they're screened in, kind of. But it's always, I mean, weather-wise, it's almost always a hellscape in Florida. So you don't really get that, you know, secret indoor winter swim. People, I mean, weren't we, when we stayed in Atlanta, Jack, like a couple of years ago, wasn't there an indoor pool at that hotel we were at? Oh, yeah. It was like a courtyard Marriott with the courtyard. Like an indoor pool.

Yeah, it was like the centerpiece of the hotel was an indoor pool. It's weird that you say like people think it's gross because I'm like, yeah, maybe. But I'm like, no, I don't think that it's gross. I think it's just like when you're in there, you just smell all the chlorine inside. And then you just feel like you're in like a YMCA or something. And what's wrong with that? No, no. And so that's what I'm saying.

Like, I don't know if it's necessarily dirty. I mean, it's the same chemicals in there. It's just that there's no open air. So I guess that's what gets people going. It's just a very specific smell that I associate with old men's balls. Because that's typically what I had just seen. Anytime I smelled it, just that,

like when, when you go from the locker room, which has very specific, like scent to you open the door and like all that hot pool air hits you in the face. That is, yeah, that is locked in to the deepest parts of my brain.

I do. I agree with you. I love an indoor pool. I don't know. Like, I don't know how feasible they are in homes but i do love a a hotel with an indoor pool like there was a community center at the university of missouri when my wife and i lived there that had like just a wild like indoor pool complex that i would just go hang out at like i was like a kid at a water park you know

yeah it was great it was uh in japan in tokyo they have a or used to have it i think it was called wild blue and it was an indoor water park with a wave pool and shit which is wild because like in the summer japan gets like plenty hot that you don't need to indoorify fucking shit but this was like one of those again it was so big it still also just had that that distinct smell of chlorine emanating throughout yeah i don't know why yeah i'm back on board with indoor everything thank you i mean we have tons of indoor water parks in america which i go to a lot, which I get some grief for. Oh, really? Which ones? Oh, well, for my birthday, I went to New York and I went to the DreamWorks water park, which is an American dream that formerly known as Xanadu, if anybody is of my age. It's this mall that was just kind of cursed forever and now it's actually open. And they have this huge Shrek balloon in the middle and Shrek-themed water slides.

Oh, what? Yeah, I do a month-long podcast dedication to Shrek called Shrekcember because he is arguably Jewish and we need more Jewish characters in the theme parks. So I'm going all in on Shrek celebrating Hanukkah and praying for it. Wait, Shrek is tribe? Yes, because Shrek is a Yiddish word. And it's based on a book by this guy, William Steig. And it's kind of an allegory for Jews in, I believe, the 1800s. His parents are immigrants.

There's a lot of evidence that this dude should be lighting a menorah. And yet he doesn't. So for research, quote unquote, I went to the indoor Shrek water park. And I had a blast. It was great. Okay. Wow. Yeah.

What's the best indoor water park in America? Like as the expert on the subject. Yeah, give us something to aspire to. So it's less a specific water park. It's more a city. I would go to Wisconsin Dells, which is my favorite place on the planet, save for Tokyo probably. And it is essentially Vegas for children. And there are maybe half a dozen hotels there that have indoor water parks.

There's one called Wilderness, which has multiple, they have swim up bars that, you know, wintertime in Wisconsin, it is cold. And so you can swim up to a bar and have a drink. And then they have a hot tub where you can go indoor outdoor. So you can go outside for a second and come back in just like a doggy door, but for humans while in water. bar and have a drink and then they have a hot tub where you can go indoor outdoor so you can go outside for a second and come back in just like a doggy door but for humans while in water and they have a ton of slides there's also a place called kalahari uh it's just it's endless if you want to go on a water slide in winter wisconsin dulls is the spot wow i didn't even realize like yeah when you search it it's like the whole map lights up with water parks. Yeah. Clearly, that's where I spent my formative years.

Right. Wow. So you grew up in Wisconsin? I grew up in Chicago, but when you're landlocked, instead of flying to a coast, it's like, let's drive two hours to this weird children's paradise. Right. Right, right, right. That sounds awesome.

Super producer Justin, also from chicago uh has several memories from the dells uh great wolf lodge yeah he says one of his best memories but that's interesting i want like do you think growing up within driving distance of a place like that kind of sent you down this path of being a theme park enthusiast, nay, a journalist? It's interesting because I got my start reporting on theme parks when I went. So I went to Disney World for my bachelorette party, which was about seven years ago. And the reason I went to Disney World was because I decided there wasn't enough to do in Wisconsin in February. So because I love Wisconsin Dolls so much, that's the only reason I wound up at Disney World.

And now this is my whole life is reporting on Disney. So I think the seeds were always there. I'm just, you know, I just like to have a good time. I like to be entertained. I like to eat really shitty nachos. Like I just want cheese sauce and water slides and to run around until i'm exhausted and there are a few places in the world that allow you to do that and wipe nacho cheese on your bathing suit like it's gonna be clean because i'm about to just go on this slide

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iheart radio and realm listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back uh and like we set up top, America still a white supremacist, violent shitscape. You know, we had a sense that Rittenhouse was going to be found not guilty, but it doesn't feel like... Based on years of just observing the American legal system, sadly. Yeah, but it didn't feel any less like a sickening gut punch to hear them read not guilty five times as this little pig-faced Nazi youth sits there and pretends to faint. But yeah, I mean, these are American values. Like, if you needed any evidence that we should be fighting to teach critical race theory as hard as they're fighting against it. Like, here you go. American police started as a slave patrol, but you don't need to see that they have roots in white supremacist vigilante violence because we still allow white supremacist vigilantes to just, like,

police and ultimately murder people in the interest of that ideology. to just like police and ultimately murder people in the interest of that ideology so yeah i mean this is you know this is a turning point for sure because you're now we've legally essentially set a precedent that you can bring you can bring a weapon with you in a situation where you're there to like protect whatever but property even if yeah even if you cause a commotion by being armed you are then now it's legal for you to defend yourself even though you've come with provocation in mind right and i think that's a that's going to create a huge chilling factor for people when they want to go protest that some people think it's something people will have to consider now when they're in the streets protesting, because now you have said, you know, legally.

Yeah. If you feel scared enough, then go ahead. Start clapping and, you know, maybe you'll get off based on the complexion of your skin. And, you know, there's a where the right wing violence is now sort of blending more and more with law enforcement and sort of not understanding where the lines are with who is going to enforce what anymore. Because we're damn sure seeing what the police will turn their head and look away from and allow to happen. fully it seems like more and more we're going to be seeing this you know connection between the police and and sort of outsourcing the violence to these other people now because it used to be the police that were sort of the ones on the front sort of brutalizing protesters but vigilantes can now act as their agents yeah he was pictured with a bunch of nazis like giving the thumbs up and celebrating in between,

like when he was leading up to trial, a black rifle coffee was like, we're not associated with him. Black rifle coffee, which is itself like a right wing gun coffee company was like, Hey, don't be wearing our, we didn't give him any of that shit.

Don't, don't, don't mind us. But, you know, a lot of people are pointing, rightly pointing to the contrast between how the police treat unarmed black children versus how they treated a armed with an assault rifle white kid who had just murdered two people. Coalition, which is an armed group that is dedicated to protecting Black lives from police brutality. Just the idea of arming Black citizens who, by the way, have way more reason to need to be armed for self-defense and preservation of life than Kyle Rittenhouse, who was avowedly there to protect property. He was there to protect looting or whatever the fuck.

Yeah, inanimate objects. He was there to protect like looting or whatever the fucking inanimate objects. Yeah. Whatever their fantasy is. But they, you know, since kind of coming together during the Black Lives Matter movement of 2020, the not fucking around coalition has been targeted and charged with pointing a gun at police, for which he faces three to 27 years in prison. He's currently not allowed to possess a gun or access social media while he awaits trial because these are American values. This isn't like that's what's so enraging about this is that was the point. The point of the Kyle Rittenhouse trial was getting him to like be buddy buddy with the judge so everybody could see that to see like no this is what we condone and like this other thing is what we don't condone the i mean more more than that i think the verdict you know because i see a lot i mean on the right people like where where's black lives matter here

at this thing? White people that got killed by Kyle Rittenhouse. And like, they're like, this is the thing you don't understand that this person was there in service of white supremacy. And what this verdict is really saying, it's trying to erode solidarity, you know, because a lot of people began to understand. Not that they're not enough, but many people in this country said, you know what? Yeah, this is bad. And I should actually stand, you know, with these people who are oppressed and use my privilege as a way to maybe try and change things, maybe better things. And I would like to be an ally to this movement. But what this is showing you too, is it's showing that

even for white people who are considering allyship, that your whiteness will not protect you if you are standing in direct opposition to white supremacy. Because at that point, your life is just as disposable as a person of colors. And for many people looking at this, it's just, I can only imagine what kind of, what the subtext or what how other people are reading into it. But from my perspective, it's clear to see that this is definitely made to also send a warning shot across people who are saying, you know what, if you're on that side, just so you know, it's the rules will be different. Yeah. And, you know, and again, this legal system has done its job because just like we said in 2020 that summer, right? White supremacy is a living organism that has to survive no matter what. It finds ways to survive. It's not just simply saying like, all right, we've legislated against it.

It's over because the second there is mass public action that is kind of showing up and brewing against it. It's going to find these ways to reinforce the message that these public actions are not powerful enough to topple this, because inherent to all of this is a legal system that is meant to justify and rationalize all of this violence and using its perceived impartiality as a legal system, quote unquote, to again say, no, no, no, there's ways that we can make this work, especially if, like Kyle Rittenhouse, you're there in service of white supremacy or property rights or however somebody wants to spin it. Yeah. And so, I mean, this is especially frustrating because it seems like, you know, at the moment, the defund the police movement has been losing popularity. They lost a big battle in Minneapolis where they voted to keep the existing police force. And as we talked about last month, there's sort of a mainstream narrative that is tying the rise in violent crime and murder to police defunding, even though nobody actually defunded the police to a degree that they were crippled. And what happened is police budgets got minor cuts from absurd heights.

Well, they got three less bazookas. Right. And, you know, that kept them from being armed like Navy SEALs to police their communities. And the main thing that happened was the police basically quit on their communities for daring to criticize them. And I also think there's probably a breakdown in the public trust in police as it's revealed that police are both, you know, continuing to be armed, willing to use deadly force, and extremely bad at their job. So I don't think that's helpful. But the solutions seem to be defund the police, which was interpreted by the mainstream media as like, take the police away. Yeah, police gone forever. And 9-1-1 won't work anymore. Yeah.

And one won't work anymore. Yeah. And then double down on a system of militarized Foucault boomerang police force that like is just basically occupying forces being in American cities and in neighborhoods that they don't live in, but that are in American cities and where they are willing to use deadly force like that's being treated as like well it's either no police or we keep doubling down on this fucking nightmare scenario so i did just want to like take a second to like check in with what defunding the police could actually look like a lot of people are treating it like it's a branding thing and i don't know like that's i think it is frustrating i mean it's not that it's a branding thing but people americans again because of the amount of propaganda we consume throughout our lifetimes we're we're just still so invested in these cruel systems right and we're at this point where we can acknowledge the cruelty of the systems but not quite able to articulate the way past it or through it you know like everyone goes damn man shit this seems bad like even especially as it relates

right now to like labor right everyone's like man this is fucked up like people are just like yeah now that i think about it this is fucked Yeah. But we're sort of because there's so much other messaging that is going to, you know, keep away things like giving people the imagination on how to make something better for themselves, whether that's to do collective bargaining or through withhold. You know, because now people are organically withholding their labor. There's just there's a difficulty in articulating to say, yes, this is fucked up. The thing we need to do is X. Right. We're just not, there's not enough Americans who are able to get to that part. Many people are just at the part where we're like, yes, this is fucked up.

You're right. This is fucked up. The police just, I'm actually just realized, yeah, it does seem like the police just go after people of color and they're not punished for it because we have things like qualified immunity. That's fucked up now what and i think the first thing that people that was brought to the the table in terms of like the vocabulary to use was defund the police because that was more acknowledging the fact the injustice of what our law enforcement system is like that this cannot we cannot abide anymore and because it was co-opted to just mean the end of all public safety that immediately just put a chilling effect on things and people were unable

to again we need to be able to pivot to yes it's fucked up and we need to move towards this yes and if we're always stuck at things are fucked up it's very hard to begin organizing around certain things and and like you're saying, you have some people who are really talking about completely changing what it means to have like law enforcement and what public safety is and the people who can be involved or the specialties that we need for that. But I don't know, I feel like everything kind of keeps evolving in this way that it's just become very difficult to kind of escape or not escape, but to to keep telling people that it's not merely just saying the end of your safety,

right, that we have to actually there are other ways to keep people safe. And on paper, the cops aren't doing a good job. Right. Yeah. I think it has to be compounded by the fact, too, that it lately it feels like every sphere of society is just fucked. Just everything. Especially that we're still in a pandemic. It doesn't seem like it's ending anytime soon. I read something that there's another strain coming. We're just in this. And you can't even count on someone to wear a mask to try not to actively kill you to get a vaccine for the better of the community. It just seems like there's such a divide in such a deep, deep way that it really is everything that needs to change requires teamwork. And there's so many people who just don't give a shit that it feels like at times like an impossible mountain to climb.

Yeah. And I think and that's by design too you know like i think to to help people feel so this sense of despair or like lack of control over anything can easily just put people into this new thing about saying well the solution isn't going to be how am i going to work with other people the solution is fucking get your house in order and figure out how you're going to weather this without the help of anyone because i think that's the message that's reflected to people by society and the government at large is just like you're on your own yeah i feel like yeah i feel like that's exactly like rather than

you know being like well if only these people would vote for like what is good for them like i feel like that's where a lot of it ends is like these people are idiots like i think a lot of the problems come from the fact that everybody in america is existing in a society where if you don't have enough money you that will let you die like that's that's just like it's a cruel cold fucking world and it's's also, we're being stripped of our humanity by capitalism and by just being turned into values on a spreadsheet. And I think that's been a long, slow process

and people are fucking beat down from it. So there's this Rice University article that kind of takes a look at where alternatives to policing should be focused. And the first category is health, you know, like mental health and drug abuse resources. The vast majority of patrol police, over 90% in Seattle, address multiple people in mental health crisis every month. Like that's, that is the main main thing. I was dropping my kids off at school on Friday morning, drove past someone who's clearly in having a mental health crisis.

And my only recourse was to call 911 basically or stop and do something about it myself because I don't know what like what are the mental health like authorities and if i call 9-1-1 for help a person who is scared is gonna with a gun is gonna show up like that's what the police have the ability to do is like use a gun right that's how they solve the fucking problem. Yeah. And, you know, this is everything that the police are there for. Again, they're there to clean up the failures of this capitalist system that we're in. We have mental health problems because we will not take care of people who need interventions for their drug abuse or need to go into a treatment program. So we allow that to fester. And it turns into someone on the street acting out and people go, oh, my God, I can't.

Oh, this person is doing something. I got to call the police to get them away from me. When really that's because we failed to take care of somebody. You look again, we talk about crimes of desperation survival crime like theft and shoplifting and shit like that that's not that's not because they're fucking tony soprano because they just they just stole a bunch of enfamil that's not what the fuck is going on it's because people have been failed people have we have failed to take care of each other we have failed to create or provide sustenance or the materials needed to

survive so people are left to their own devices and have to go out and survive and that's where the police come in because we've criminalized needing help we've criminalized being vulnerable we've criminalized being poor and then but what we've created but we've completely obscured this dynamic through this lens of law enforcement and the good guys and the bad guys and this binary that that's all it is rather than, no, no, no, most of us are being brutalized by the same people and for the same reasons because we're not getting what we need to survive. Yeah. I feel like, so one of the, you know, examples that we've talked about before on this show, the Rice University article talks about is CAHOOTS, which is the Cornelie named Eugene, Oregon organization that started as just a thing to like help people who are having bad trips essentially, and has developed into, you developed into a very continually useful alternative to the police that can come and help somebody who is having a mental health crisis. And a lot of times

their job is to just be a person who can do whatever is required at the time. You don't need special training. It just seems like there's so many fucking jobs that could be created by supplementing the police with people who don't fucking murder people like like how about how about we try that just create a police of people who actually live in the communities and are there to solve problems instead of like treat people like enemy combatants right and you know there's been examples of this treat people like enemy combatants. Right. And, you know, there've been examples of this with people who are there to help with relationship crises, domestic violence, which, you know, a lot of times people who are engaging in domestic violence,

you know, move on to other violent crimes, but it certainly doesn't help that the thing they're met with when they first engage with in domestic violence is somebody pointing a gun at them. And that's the only it's either like funneled towards prison or like George Zimmerman and people like that, where, you know, people armed white people who are racist thinking that they need to, you know, just basically playing police officer. That needs to be supplemented with some, you know, the Black Panthers were there to police the police and they were treated like a violent fucking extremist organization, which is all you need to know about the difference in how America approaches these things. But that's another option that is probably the least tested, but the one that absolutely needs to be pursued more than it has to this point. Just thinking about, you know, like the whole thing that by America being so intentionally cruel and that's sort of like the. The sort of foundation that like life is built on and keeping people, most people, you know, like in a place where they feel like,

well, my only thing that I have is to survive because I'm not looking at a, I'm not looking at many things that will help me. Granted, there are some, there are social safety nets out there, but in general, the message is if you don't,

like, if you don't have, then you will continue to lack and then you will expire. And I think it puts people it helps always keep people divided because of that. Because if you're always acknowledging that you're in this survival situation, altruism doesn't make sense all the time, because you're already accepting that you're in a you're in a situation where surviving is number one. And if that's the case, it's,

you know, for lack of a better metaphor, it's like looking like the squid game marbles episode where suddenly when it's time to survive, you'll do whatever the fuck you have to do. That's just human nature. And, and it's such a elegant way to continue to keep people from being able to group together, to organize together because we're too busy fucking dealing with the chaos of like the cruel reality that we're in all the time.

aren't all these jobs like they're people recognize their communities are fucked they recognize that like there is work to be done there the fact that those jobs aren't created yet i feel like is like a hangover from a previous time when people like weren't didn't give a fuck about their communities and you know i don't know like it just feels like this is a problem that could be addressed if people just act locally. And I don't know, there are the people there is the will to do things to help. person who lives in a neighborhood is will be better at policing their neighborhood than the fucking police yeah that's the thing with where you live you know who the fuck you live with you know who's in your community say oh that person i don't worry about them they're kind of going through it yeah that's i know them there's more there's more context to who this person is rather than a 911 call saying someone is acting belligerent and is you know threatening people with a shopping cart or something because like you're saying we're people we're not we're the things aren't of our

communities anymore right and yeah i mean it just i just think of how much even like where i grew up i knew so much about my neighborhood i knew so much about people who i saw i saw the same regular unhoused people all the time to the point where like i knew what the fuck they were like i like i knew what they were gonna ask me for i knew what their whole rap was and it and you understand you're at that point you actually have a better idea of like what is a threat what is a danger to to you your safety or the community at large but right anyway maybe we'll begin to have a reckoning one day in America. But we've been reckoning free since fucking whenever you want to put a date to it. All right.

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The trailer for it, I guess, was, you know, set to thumping EDM music. Yeah, it was intense. I don't know. Carly, you're the expert here. What are we looking at here? We're looking at the first 10 minutes of a horror film, for sure. Right. Nothing good is happening there.

And the thing is, there's this very fine line between theme park and amusement park, where theme parks are holistically designed to kind of transport you to another universe. You know, something like Fantasyland or Tomorrowland. It's supposed to bring in story and narrative and characters to really flesh out an experience beyond just sitting in a ride vehicle. Amusement parks are more focused on individual attractions. Sometimes they have theming, sometimes they don't. characters really flesh out an experience beyond just sitting in a ride vehicle amusement parks are more focused on individual attractions sometimes they have theming sometimes they don't this is not a pleasing place to look at or visit i don't care how long that water slide looks

i don't want to be anywhere near that nightmare dome like it just looks bleak and sad and scary and the setting just adds to the lore i i hate it you look at an overhead shot of this and it looks like a amusement park from water world like it looks like it's been built out of garbage that dennis hopper is like welcome fallen society right and and you all like you all pray to the guy who was the captain of the Exxon Valdez like the smokers did in Waterworld. But yeah. And I just want to say this. You're right. It's not an amusement park or a theme park because as the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund calls it, this is a quote, a oil themed extreme park. I'm sorry. Oil. Oil. Yes. Oil themed? Yes, this is in the press release. The rig will be an oil themed extreme park spanning a total area of more than 150,000 square meters and sitting atop a converted oil rig in the Arabian Gulf.

And I'm just going to give just for people have a little more understanding of like what we're talking about here. So they've converted this rig, right, to have play host to extreme sports, helipads, quote, a range of adventurous activities. There's a roller coaster we saw that was like built into the rigging. They'll be skydiving. There's three hotels with over 800 rooms, 11 restaurants, and one that is under the water. There's so many ways to die here. Like, I don't know why this is appealing to anyone. Yeah, it's true. Like the way it looked, Jack, like you said, Waterworld, because it all has like that patina, like that sea rust. Yeah.

Look to it. I feel like, yo, the second you step on there, like you're getting tetanus. Right. That's like that just feels like the energy that's it like that. It's emitting, even though it looks cool, I guess, to fix a Ferris wheel to the side of the fucking thing. The I am in on this, by the way. I want to go here this looks fucking cool as shit to me look they already paid they already they got to him he's doing a pr he's

doing a junket out there it looks terrifying but like if you're going to go on a scary roller coaster why not have it like weaving through the you know webbed like rebar of a dilapidated oil rig that is groaning under the weight of all these rides that they've put on it. There's no way that thing is not making noises. It's just like...

Just creaking. The debut weekend, opening weekend, there'll be an accident. This thing looks like the Santa Monica Pier in the year 3050. It just looks like this is the last thing you see level rise before earth ceases to exist right and like it's just this weird mind like just okay like just looking at all the fucking layers of this whole thing right because first saudi arabia just to get into it their whole thing is right now they are trying to completely rebrand because they're trying to get away from,

they're trying to get away from headlines like Mohammed bin Salman is like killing children in Yemen or extrajudicially assassinating people in foreign embassies to more stuff like, holy shit, Saudi Arabia built the coolest theme park. You know, like that is,

it's all part of this sort of reputation washing scheme that's been going on very aggressively the last 10 years, especially like now they just bought Newcastle United, the football, the soccer team in the UK and caused a huge like people were like, what the fuck? Saudi Arabian government to just buy this story team just to wash their reputation with the glory that they'll bring with their money to this club. And then even when Trump went into office, we knew about how American media and David Pecker and those guys at the National Enquirer were doing all kinds of these slick magazines out of nowhere about Mohammed bin Salman or being like, is Saudi Arabia the new Dubai? And you're like, huh? Is it? I feel like there were a bunch of influencers who went there to either fashion or something

along those lines where everyone's like, I'm sorry, what are you posting? Like you got flown there for a fun little trip? Is this bad? It's funny how those people were like, I didn't know. I just thought it was like Dubai. Like also don't go there on a junket, please. Yeah. And I think so there's that, right?

There's this reputation washing scheme, which this is all in service of because they want to become a new tourist destination by 2030. And then you have like the idea of like a decommissioned oil rig, which is like the source of all of like our earthly problems like with fossil fuel extraction and then mapping on top of that like a place to be like hey this old skeleton that's the bygone thing that or i guess still the thing that's keeping us from protecting the earth what if we put 11 restaurants on it and fucking 800 like again oil themed i'm sure i i can't imagine if there's like an oil education section yeah what is What is that going to be? What is an oil themed? Anything like the layers of propaganda are really, maybe that's every floor of the hotel.

It's like a different scheme. Maybe they'll have a, what's his name's character from there will be blood as like one of the dress up characters. Oh yeah. Like we'll yell at you about drinking your milkshake. Oh dude. It'll be a thing. It's a restaurant.

What is it, Daniel Plainview? Daniel Plainview. It's like, step right up and try and drink my milkshake, folks. And all you try to drink from a fucking 30-meter straw and be like, I can just see that kind of nonsense. I mean, not to be way too journalistic about this, but they are lacking an IP component because there are, there's no, like, if I'm looking at this very literally without all of the terrifying backstory, there are no characters that are familiar to people. There are no storylines. There's no movie tie-in there, except for when I looked it up, a movie called The Rig, which I think is a horror movie.

There's nothing to actually draw this tourism that they are pulling out of nothing so a lot of times the stuff they release these renderings and they just take forever and the things fall apart and i assume i mean they have money so it could happen but nobody is going to plan a trip around this because there's no hook beyond it being I don't know if people have craved an oil themed experience. All right. There's no there's no hook there. Devil's advocate. Yeah. First of all, the audience. Okay.

You know, it's not oil's been bad but they're turning that frown the apocalypse upside down by by putting smiles on people's faces on something that did bring about the apocalypse. But for now, it's lit. They're doing something with levels

that I have not seen done. I've never seen a roller coaster or a bunch of water slides kind of going through buildings, which I think is a cool... That's kind of hinted at by the park design and too new though is it not no there's there are definitely roller coasters that will go through structures that are like then that's kind of the appeal got it there is a lot of intertwining here but more in a way

that makes me uneasy scared for this the structural significance of it right Right. Yeah, no, this is a total nightmare. But like also, I don't know. Yeah, it's like the fire fest of theme parks where it's like, I don't want to go, but like, I'm going to be watching. Yeah, I want to hear about it. I'm going to watch the shit out of that opening weekend. I mean, it's weird because I pulled up a link about it. And it's this website, archpaper.com. Because I pulled up a link about it, and it's this website, archpaper.com, and the text of it is,

As noted by CNN, Saudi Arabia lacks the international tourism draw of some of its neighbors, due in part to the appalling history of humans' rights abuses and strict restrictions placed on women. And you scroll up, and it's a screen grab of that promotional video with a girl in a tank top just screaming on a coaster. And it's like, this is discordant. This does not work together. International waters. We can loosen the rules over here in the sea. Anything goes on an oil rig, I suppose. Yeah, right. I don't know.

Suddenly, like, and yeah, our strict repressive laws. Also, hey, we're not going to let that get in the way of tourism, folks. Believe us. I'd like to see that. And also, I don't know who this, who this like again i don't know how many people if they're saying internationally right i'll speak very narrowly about the united states what person the u.s is like dude i've been i you know what's been on my fucking list like we went to we went to tokyo we went to iceland we went to cost Rica. Like, now we got to go to the Arabian Gulf to spuck it.

And then I want to go to Riyadh. Okay. Because it's a popping over there. I just don't, again, like you're saying, the draw isn't clear. The value proposition isn't clear. Aside from, I think, just to say that it's like the most extreme fucking thing. It itself is a spectacle. In all in all, it just seems joyless, which I don't think is the point of any of this.

Yeah. Right. Right. Like, I guess. Yeah. You can tell that it's like, no, this isn't who you are. Even the actors in the video, the promotional video seem like they are acting like they're having fun at gunpoint. Like they're like, yeah yay i love the rig i don't get what it is though because

i love an attraction on a cruise ship like a roller coaster on a cruise ship yeah sign me the fuck up but this i hate it even though it's it's essentially also on water also an amusement something about it permanently being out there where you can truly fall to your death at any moment it just doesn't sit right with it looks rusty as fuck it looks it's rusty as shit you can already see have you ever met somebody who you're like oh i know exactly what you're gonna look like as an elderly person like do you know that like you're just like oh yeah like i see the i know where this is going yeah well so miles you you look like an old no i'm just joking no that's fine i know uh no

this looks like i i looking at this i can already see it in like a post-apocalyptic landscape like that's what it's in water world yeah it is i honestly to your point about the ip if this was branded as a water world i'm fucking somehow i'm suddenly like oh i love muhammad bin salman it would smooth it over a bit if i could have a jet ski and live my dreams yeah and and already it's like fucked up and nightmarish because you're presupposing that the world has already collapsed due to climate change. And you're there to yuck it up with like the smokers and some guy speaking Portugreek with webbed feet and gills behind his ears. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it fits everything. Like one thing, one kind of dissonant aspect of the video, but not the most striking one, obviously obviously is that there's scuba diving in it which like right so it's like a theme park where you can go scuba diving underneath it which who has

not wanted to scuba dive around a fucking rusty oil rig right but you know if it's water world that that makes sense yeah he could breathe underwater and this is so fucked up but i think like you build like full scale because they have the money, of a city that has just been completely submerged by sea level rise. And that's what you scuba dive through? Yeah. I mean, that's a story. Show me my eventual fate, you know? Yeah, right.

Exactly. And then somehow it's acting as a great inspiration for people to be like, we have to get off fossil fuel, guys. Guys, this is a good idea. I went to that spectacular water world party. great inspiration for people like we have to get off fossil fuel guys guys this is a good idea there's got to be there's got to be like decommissioned oil rigs in america we turn them into like future world yeah actual future land like now we're thinking like american business people yes we gotta do our own oil we could get that IP for cheap, you know, that we could actually have hair restoration procedures out there. Since Kevin Costner, I guess most of that budget was spent on digitally redoing his hair. Yeah, because it didn't it didn't quite work.

And you'll know there's a long running Waterworld show in Hollywood, right? Yeah. Yeah. Studios. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I mean, the stunt show, because it used to be a miami

vice stunt show which is funny because for that that miami vice stunt show went on for years past when anyone gave a fuck about miami vice and the same with the water world thing too like i bet they're like generations of kids who go they're like what the fuck is water oh yeah it's been decades i believe just i mean it's a proven concept if we really want to sell it right yeah yeah that's true so somebody already has the idea universal yeah shit it's wild that they because nobody i went and saw water world i was excited about water world when it came out you know i was like a child i was like hell yeah man this is like probably where we're all heading and but i i remembered like having

the feeling that uh this was like kind of cool but nobody gives a shit enough about it to like play water world ever right yeah yeah yeah it's a very holistic tie-in the fact that you would go to an oil rig and if you enjoy yourself be, be like, congrats. This is the future if you continue to use oil. Enjoy it. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I kind of like it.

You'll probably be clinging to oil rigs for the rest of your life. All right, Carly. We'll talk offline. We're going to make this happen. 100%. Have you ever, did you, I'm sure you're too young

for River Country. Did you ever hit River Country? I did not, but I know all about it. River Country is still my favorite amusement amusement anything I've ever been to. Oh, you lucky dog. Yeah. What is River Country? River Country was just, they built a water park into like a little chunk of the river

in Orlando at Disney. And it was, I don't know, it was just cool. It felt like it was built out of old, I don't know it was just cool it like felt like it was like built out of like old like I don't know like logging equipment and shit and like it felt a little tetanusy but I loved that shit call me tetanusy William

I mean I think we just end the podcast at this point. Later, folks. Dealing with a lot right now, but that's it. Shit. I wish I would have gone. Yeah.

I'm so jealous. It was dope. I don't know if it was dope or it just hit me at the right time. I think I went when I was like eight or nine. Yeah. Hit that and Typhoon Lagoon in consecutive days. And Tetanus Sea. Tetanus Sea. Tetanus Sea. Tetanus Sea.

Tetanus Sea. Tetanus Sea. Well, Carly, it's been such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me on. This was a wonderful morning. Yes, yes. We did it all.

We covered the whole spectrum. Yeah, seriously. Didn't we? Yeah. Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me at Carly Weisel on Twitter and Instagram or my podcast, Very Amusing with Carly Weisel. Anywhere they sell podcasts, which are free. So just honestly, nobody has my name.

So if you type in my name, everything will come up. Yeah, yeah. And we are spelling that name C-R-L-Y-E-W-I-S-E-L. Yeah. FYI. Yeah, yeah. And we're spelling that name C-R-L Y-E-W-I-S-E-L. Yeah. F-Y-I. Yeah. I mean, it was annoying growing up that no one could pronounce my name, but now every Google result is me.

Yeah. It's kind of nice. Not like I'm Googling myself a lot. I work in a field of bylines. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, that's fine. We all do it. Yeah. I have Google Alerts for friends who I hope they'll be written about. And I always say, hey, bro, you're still not popping up on Google Alerts.

Sorry. I mean, these days, it's the only way I know my stuff goes live. Yeah. Right, right. But your parents nailed it with search engine optimization with this. Thank you. Yeah, I was named for the most popular girl in my mom's high school and it ended up being a Google dream.

Yeah. Yeah, look at that. It's also a combination of Carl and yay, Carl Sagan and Kanye. Yeah, you're right. My two heroes. Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've

been enjoying? Yes. Um, I'm torn between two, but I think my favorite, this tweet by krill tusk and it says smash that motherfucking like if you love the worm part of the bus and it's a photo of the part that joins the two parts of the bus together. So yeah, I loved it because nobody, it's one of those things that nobody talks about that. I always try to go there because it feels a little bit like a ride and it's so sneaky. Yeah. I loved it because nobody, it's one of those things that nobody talks about

that I always try to go there because it feels a little bit like a ride. And it was just nice to see it pop up in my feed and be represented. Yeah. It's so funny. And like growing up in Japan, I would go to like in the middle of the train cars

for that same experience. I'm like, this is where the shit moves. And my mom would regularly be like, get the fuck out of there this isn't a ride and now as an adult i like i do it from time to time or like in the new york subway i'll find myself levitating towards that i'm like yeah i can kind of handle this right now i like to go no hands because it makes me feel i moved to la from new york so it makes me feel like i still have it oh you know what's the best though any for subway riding

culture is going hands-free when it's breaking to be like watch me watch me finesse the stop and take off of this subway car without grabbing the little hand because i know how to get low and the ah yes exactly and people native new yorkers love when you do that oh yeah a little tip oh yeah i'll do it with my backpack everybody get out of the way my big ass backpack on my back not taking it off and then like ending up pushing like an mta worker and they ask me yeah i'm trying to get smacked uh miles where can people find you what's the tweet you've been enjoying oh you can find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray. And also the other show for 20 day fiance, uh, where I talk 90 day fiance with Sophia Alexandra.

Um, let's see, man, I don't even know. It's a fucking tweet. I even like these days. How about this one from at arson doer tweeted? If smoking is so bad,

why does it cure salmon? Thank you. Thank you. Uh, and another one from Abby Govvindan at abby gov gov tweeted quote i'm an empath the worst person you have ever met okay well that track sometimes yeah europe let's see raunch on pizza tweeted a bidet but for your teeth after eating popcorn which while we're inventing shit, that's a good one.

Water pick? It's like a water pick, but I feel like... I mean, for someone in my line of work, I could use that. Hell yeah. Like a little portable water pick. Or like a mouthpiece, right?

Or a mouthpiece you put in, and you do something, and it just goes... And then you're like... There you go. Good. Mouthwood day. There you go.

And then that mom, though, tweeted, Hello, darkness, my old friend. Is it 5 or 10 p.m.? Because this daylight saving shit is fucking me up. Still, huh? Yeah, man. Me too. Not you?

Are you just adjusted to the new sunlight? Like, it's nothing? It's weird. I was doing it very suddenly hit me like two days ago where I was like, oh, shit. My circadian rhythm is back in line with like what the clock says normally versus like me being like, what the fuck am I doing right now? Yeah. Wow. I just get very sad every day at four o'clock being like, I got nothing done. And then I'm like, oh, the sun stole time away from me. Right. Yeah. And also you're like, why do I keep beating myself

for not getting anything done in accordance with the sun? Like some yeoman farmer. Yeah. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes

and our footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think they might enjoy? I mean, I've been listening to a lot of funk, P-H-O-N-K, which I'm not going to lie, TikTok got me kind of more interested in this musical genre where they take a 808 cowbell and detune it if you hear this style of music you're like I know this kind of track but the producers are really good and I'm just like I don't know sonically I'm really starting to gravitate towards it there's just something about it that's like it feels like dystopian hip-hop and this track is called Odium O-D-I-U-M, from last century. And again, a lot of these funk producers put X's where the vowels should go.

So it's L-X-S-T-C-X-N-T-U-R-Y. So check that out. We're going to go out on that. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever. Fine podcasts are given away for free. That's going to do it for us this morning, but we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending.

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