The Daily Zeitgeist - Who Bit Beyonce? Bad Guy With A Gun Stops Self 3.27.18

Episode Date: March 27, 2018

In episode 113, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Casey Ley to discuss who bit Beyonce at her birthday party & what Tiffany Haddish witnessed, Russian diplomats being kicked out of the USA & their embassies trolling everyone on twitter, Justice John Paul Steven's asking to repeal the 2nd amendment, the Netflix doc Wild, Wild Country, & more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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For March 27th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Captain Jack will get O'Brien tonight. That is courtesy of Jordan Fenster and Billy Jolf, and I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yes, aka, hashtag Justice for Alton Sterling, because today we found out that the Louisiana Attorney General will not file criminal charges against the two police officers who basically shot a man selling bootleg CDs on a street corner. So, anyway, shout out to you, state of Louisiana, and by that I mean, what the fuck is going

on? But yes, hi, welcome to the show. I just wanted to fit that in there because we didn't have that on the docket. But I still need to let people know that, you know, being black is a executionable offense sometimes in this country. So no, no plays on your name. No, no, I'm using gray. OK, I mean, just to lighten it up. Gray away, gray away, gray away.

There we go, there we go. That's Orinoco Flow by Enya. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the very funny comedian, Casey Lai. Hello, everybody. Hi. Welcome back, Casey. Back, back, back, back, back again. Yeah.

Happy to be here. Thanks for having me back. We are thrilled to have you. What is something from your search history that will tell our listeners a little bit about you? I have something in my search history. I was just searching drag queen from RuPaul's Drag Race. Again, I probably talked about this last time a little bit, but there's a drag queen that's my favorite named Thorgy Thor, and everyone kind of hates her. So I'm just going to go out there and say that I'm a Thorgy Thor drag queen.

What were you looking up about Thorgy? I wanted to look up her good qualities. Because everyone on the internet always talks about how she sucks and as soon as her head is so petty and all that stuff. And I was like, no, I just think that she's smarter than everyone else. And then all I could find were memes of her like side-eyeing everyone so is she i don't know about thorgy is she is she really petty like is she indefensible no no she's not indefensible she's the best um but she was on all-star season two which just ended and now

there's like season uh 10 which is up and running on vh1 and um she is is a very smart weird person who just feels like the world is out to get her and you know what probably it is because sometimes when you're better than everyone else everyone just comes for you all the time tell them Kanye and then all of sometimes all the memes that you get turned into are those

memes which have you being like this bitch sucks and that bitch sucks and that bitch sucks but so hey this goes out this search history thing goes out to all of you who are just who just know they're smarter and better than everyone else thank you so much that's how i feel what is something that's underrated besides something that's underrated is the power of sex workers um and i i'm sure you've talked about stormy daniels ands too much, but I just love the idea that the person or several of the people who may be part of leading the resistance against the Trump administration, hashtag not one-sided. I'm sure your listeners come in many shapes and forms and political Mueller investigation and all of these amazing kids marching to end gun violence in America, you have this very articulate and large-breasted, beautiful sex worker who is completely shameless. And shameless in the best form.

Right. You know, like Donald Trump is shameless in the worst form. Right. You know, like Donald Trump is shameless in the worst form. Yeah, he has no moral scruples. He has no moral scruples and she is like free of shame and she's leading the charge. And also then there's

Carrie McDougal who worked for Playboy which I guess also makes someone a sex worker. I don't know if it's a sex worker or if you get paid to tell. Yeah, if a playmate. Yeah, I don't know

how they look at it. But if she's had sex for money which she's maybe had. I don't know. I don't want to jump to conclusions with that one but Stormy Daniels has unabashedly

and I just think that it just I mean like sex workers have been leading the fight for change for millennia in a lot of ways you know

so I just want to say that and a lot because a lot of people are like oh they're going to dismiss her because she's a porn star but really

there's power in that right well it's crazy too because when you bring up sex workers, it's like in New Orleans right now, there's like a huge fight over a lot of the strip clubs and things like that being like targeted, like under the auspices of like trafficking

and things like that. Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's a whole other discussion that's going on. Human trafficking, drug trafficking? Yeah, but there, you know, a lot of it is over sort of like Christian morality coming into the French Quarter, Bourbon Street sort of thing, and them really just trying to crack down on these kinds of stuff.

Louisiana is such a weird—I mean, America is such a weird place. But Louisiana is such a weird state because its symbol, its international symbol is New Orleans, which is like one of debauch. Right. And then, of course, all of the surrounding area is just like the South hardcore. Deep, dark red. Yeah, deep, dark South. And yeah, although Bourbon Street, I mean, you can lose Bourbon Street insanity and still have an amazing time in New Orleans because that's just about drunk, rowdy people. There's so much more to see.

Yeah, like those sex workers in the sex clubs having a great time. There you go. Leading the fight. Oldest job in the world and also the first at the cutting edge of all technology. Oldest sex workers. Oldest job in the world, oldest profession, and first line of defense. Right. There you go.

Exactly. What is something that you think is overrated? I think the state of Oregon is overrated. Wow. Wow. Yeah. I'm sorry, Oregon. I'm sorry? I think the state of Oregon is overrated. Wow. Wow. Yeah. I'm sorry, Oregon. I'm sorry.

I know there's a lot of white people are going to come for me. My birthplace. Oh, that's right. I'm sorry, Jack. You knew that? That's weird. You come from an overrated state. Yes.

That's fine. Wipe those tears away, Jack. Wipe those tears away. I'm totally okay with that. Then you move to the best state, California. There you go. I'm saying this because I watched the documentary Wild Wild Country. Yes.

Six-parter on Netflix, binged it hardcore. And if you don't know, it's a documentary about a cult-ish type group that moves in and tries to take over kind of this small town and effectively does in a lot of ways and um they are pushed back hard by the um white old powers that be there and that's basically the story of oregon right oh and also oregon yeah just figures heavily in the resurgence of the kkk in the 20s and all sorts of really dark stuff. There's a lot of racism in Oregon's history. And like the Medford area is the like anti-vaxxing capital of America too.

So you have all these kids growing up in these little communes who don't have any defenses against diseases. Well, now, don't tell me how to raise my children, Casey, okay? I love my child. Sorry, Jenny McCarthy. That's why I am arrogant enough to say I know better than most medical experts. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like to go with hunches over medical science.

Or, yeah, or one debunked medical journal article. A single medical journal article where the guys come out and been like, my bad, this was not good. I didn i didn't think i would take that seriously um casey what is a myth what's something that people think is true that you know to be false yeah let's get into this so i am hiv positive and i feel like not enough young cool hip beautiful people know that young cool hip beautiful people can also be hiv positive in this day and age and there's nothing to be ashamed of right and so that's basically a myth because I run up into that you know I talk about it in my comedy I can sense people getting like tense sometimes when I'm

talking about it and I just want everyone to like relax and know that like if you're HIV positive in this day and age you're fine and it's um, kind of like fun to talk about, you know, it gives me my in. Is that because the treatment has become just advanced so much over time? Cause I remember like back in the day, like in the early night, people used to look at it much differently. Oh yeah, of course. It was a much different thing. I mean, when we were, when, yes, treatment is amazing. I take a pill a day, um, and I'm going to live forever. I just have a joke in my head. How do I get that pill? Yeah, well, so there's a variety of things.

You go to your doctor and ask for it. And also you get HIV. Oh, wow. And you need it. But there's also, so there's so much to talk about in this. And we only have a short amount of time. But one, like the treatment is so good that there's something called undetectable where I'm medicated to a point where like there's something called undetectable where I'm I'm

medicated to a point where like there's no trace of it in my body whatsoever right okay and so I can't even and studies have confirmed this I can't even give it to another person well while I'm undetectable so as long as I'm medicated in this way which I will be forever right I can't actually transfer the meds so it's important to talk about so people know that. You're actually more likely to get HIV from a sexual encounter with someone who doesn't know their status and while using a condom than you are having unprotected sex with someone who knows their status and is undetectable because of medication. So it's important to kind of put that information out into the world because

there's also a lot of people who are like, ew, gross, you're HIV positive. I would never have sex with someone who is like that because you're a disease and dirty and gross and I want to catch it. Right. And that's a point of view that is,

that should be debunked. Wildly flawed. So there's that. And yeah, so it's just something that I think is not talked about because I think a lot of people who are also HIV positive in this day and age don't want or feel a need to talk about it so much, especially publicly because it adds a stigma on top of you that you don't need.

And let's be real, a lot of those people are already stigmatized from a group of like whether it's being gay or whether it's having had drug issues or whether it's sex gay or whether it's having had drug issues or whether it's, you know, sex work, stuff like that. So I think that you're just adding another level of stigma on top of it. And I just kind of want to get it out there that, you know,

it's not something that you need to be ashamed of or feel stigmatized by because it's normal. Right, right. You know, it's just another thing. And it's been an Right. Right. You know? Yeah. It's just another thing. And it's been an interesting road and all this, but as I've talked about it more and more, I now know every single stand-up comic who has herpes. I know.

Everyone just tells me. And I'm like, by opening up in this way, a lot of people feel comfortable opening up to me about all sorts of stuff and it's just you just realize how like normalized or how prevalent and how um normal it should be to just talk about like the fact that like people fuck and sometimes they get things right and that's just the way the world works and i'm not saying don't be safe and i'm not saying don't take responsibility but also like you're human yeah and let's address this you're human. Yeah. And let's address this. You're human. Yeah, exactly. Shame is really this big issue that I'm all, I'm all in on Brene Brown's, uh, uh, books about releasing shame. Shame is a very debilitating, um, um, human emotion. I guess it's an emotion, you know, and it's about, and it's, and as we get older, it's about trying to

lose all of that and just kind of fully actualizing your full true self. Yeah, self-acceptance, baby. Self-acceptance, baby. Who's Brene Brown? Brene Brown is an author and a, I think she's like a sociologist, but she's focused a lot on shame and the debilitating aspects of shame and how shame runs a lot of the world. I mean, a lot of the way that people act. Yeah, in our behavior, right? Yeah.

And so, and we all have shame. We just get it at different levels and we're all like imbued with shame. And I think growing up as a queer person in this society, you just are, you just know shame. You know, you were raised in shame. You were told to be ashamed of yourself and it takes a long time to relinquish a lot of that.

And then the HIV thing on top of that. So I kind of got it in my mid twenties, um, kind of, no, I did. No, I did.

Yeah. I got a little bit bad and I got a little bit more on later. Drifts and drifts. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and, um,

so I had just kind of come, I had like, I came out of the closet around like 18, 19. Um, but then I went to school in a very like middle of nowhere kind of place. So like I didn't like. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it took me a little while to be like, to be super cool and open, you know? Right. And then I moved to San Francisco and I was like, I'm gay as fuck. And then within like eight months I was HIV positive. And I went back into another like shame closet as a result of that. So I just, and it took me a while to get out as a result of that so I just and it took me a while to get out of that as well so I just it's just it uh it was a bummer and I wish I had had more people in my life at that time being like hey it's cool right you're gonna be fine

you're gonna live through this and you know because I initially at 24 I thought I was gonna die right and then it took me um a while and a lot of people to be like and a lot of experience to be like no you're gonna be fine right Right. And literally, I'm gonna live longer than most of the straight male comics you've ever seen. Because like, their disease is up in their brain. Which is not so much, but yeah. Yeah.

Well, shout out to Medical Progress. Yeah, baby. Yeah, because I used to think that like, Magic Johnson was the only person that had access to that kind of healthcare. You know what I mean? True. Like back in the day, that was like, oh, well, magic's a different thing.

I think that was true for like a year or two. Well, yeah, I think he had, at the time, he had that access. But even to this day, yeah, right. But even that, I mean, like he could have, there's a combination of things too. I mean, like HIV has never been an absolute definite 100% death sentence to everyone who's gotten it. There are different types of, bodies react to it different ways. The incisors are different. There are things called elite suppressors

where the disease never even advances without, like you don't even need medication in a lot of ways. So people have lived for decades with it. And Magic was, I think he went full board on like, I'm going to be the healthiest person in the world from this point on. And he did. But that, you know, he's like the biggest example.

But there's tons of people who lived for decades, you know. and also it was in the mid nineties that the drugs got better, not amazing, but that's when the tide turned on the, on the plague and the crisis, you know, because up until that point, there weren't drugs, there were drugs that could sustain life, but there weren't drugs that could like actually curb the disease. And those drugs have progressed and progressed and progressed. It's a little nuts that there isn't a cure yet. I mean, like, it's... And there is a lot of conspiracy out there.

So have you heard of PrEP? Truvada? Okay, I'm educating. This is good. So there's also a pill that you can take every day if you're negative, if you're not HIV positive.

And a lot of gay men, because we're considered a high-risk group, take it every day. And if you take it every day, you can't get HIV. oh okay so somehow some way the drug companies figured out a way to get all gay men on aids right wow without curing it so now they're making a lot more money i mean that's the conspiracy theory uh point of view on the whole thing right Right. Right. Right. And I'm not going, I mean,

drug companies are keeping me alive, so I'm not going to completely come for them, you know? Right. But there is, it's just an interesting thought that rather than have finding a cure after several, several decades,

we have just another way to make more money on the disease itself. So we'll file that under, I'm just going to leave that right there. Right. Right. Sponsored by leave that right there. Right, right. Sponsored by Gilead. Right. All right, let's get into the stories of the day. We're trying to take a sample

of what people are thinking and talking about right now. And something that popped up on our Google Trends radar yesterday was a combination of search terms, Tiffany Haddish, Beyonce, and face biting. And we were very curious about that. And so we looked into it. Miles, you want to tell the story?

Okay. So in GQ, they did a profile on Tiffany Haddish and just talking about her career. And they get to a section where she's talking about this Hollywood moment and how she's sort of in this new world now. so she talks about a party in which she met beyonce which is a monumental moment for 99.9 of earth right right and as a quote i'll just sort of read you sort of the play by play she says there was an actress there this is haddish she says keeping her voice low that's just like doing the mostest she bit beyonce the face. Now, Beyonce did not immediately comment on it and couldn't confirm anything. So she said, so Beyonce stormed away, went up to Jay-Z and was like, Jay, come here.

This bitch snatched him. They went to the back of the room. I was like, what just happened? And Beyonce's friend walked up and was like, can you believe this bitch just bit Beyonce? And so then a lot of things happened. According to Haddish, she and the actress continued to cross paths throughout the night the one that

who supposedly was doing the mostest taking a bite out of B then culminating in a brief standoff the actress at one point told Haddish to stop dancing

which good luck making that happen and then Beyonce and Jay-Z walked by me I tapped Beyonce I'm gonna beat somebody ass at your party

I just wanted to let you know that Beyonce asked her not to and told her to quote have fun and Haddish leveraged this moment into a selfie with Beyonce, which we have all seen now. And then she said, near the end of the party, Haddish

describing her final run-in with Beyonce, said, Beyonce's at the bar. So I said to Beyonce, did she really bite you? She was like, yeah. I was like, she won't get her ass beat tonight. She was like, Tiffany, no. Don't do that. That bitch is on drugs. She not even drunk. The bitch is on drugs. She's not like that all the time.

Just chill. So I like a Beyonce, the calming force. So now that cut to the internet trying to figure out who the fuck did it. The first one. So it's a famous actress. So it's a famous actress. Who's on drugs and doesn't know how to handle it. Also, what drug is she on?

Bath salts? Which one of the ones that make you eat people's faces? I think it is bath salts. So the the first one a lot of people were saying it was j-law jennifer lawrence because apparently she has her rep for acting up at parties and i guess she has an alter ego named gail oh dear that's cool of course she does uh which is like so which made me like whiter name yeah yeah she's like when i crazy, I turn into a whiter woman. Yeah, I'm going to bite Beyonce. And then people thought it was then Scarlett Johansson. So they figured out through representatives they weren't even there or in the same city, so that ended.

Then people thought it was Sanaa Lathan, Stan Lathan's daughter, who was also in Love and Basketball. She denies it. Then people thought, you know, it kept going. Then Chrissy Teigen on Twitter basically intimated that she knows who did it she was first she intimated and said I know who did it yeah and then she's like oh I guess I was wrong she was like I was wrong she's like but you will be very surprised yeah I had no clue or like I never suspected the person who it really was yeah so she both claimed she knew it then found out she was wrong but now knows who it was and says it's a surprise I'm going Meg Ryan

you said Meg Ryan yeah Meg Ryan that is so funny I'm going to go with Jodie Foster yeah yeah that's

I I think it's Liv Tyler oh shit yeah she's just like she's wanting to be relevant real bad again

right and Solange is just waiting in the elevator to be like I'm going to fuck this bitch up wherever she is push her in the elevator push her in the elevator to be like, I'm going to fuck this bitch up wherever she is. Push her in the elevator.

I've got you. Push her in the elevator. Yeah, it has to, I can't, it doesn't strike me as a woman of color would, I don't care what drugs

you're on, you're not biting Beyonce. Yeah. It just seems like a real. It doesn't seem, but again, this saga will continue. That person was definitely

on drugs. That person was definitely like really hopped up and like, this is a great idea. I got a great idea. I'm going to bite Beyonce's face. I like how benevolent she was.

If it was an artist, I would guess Katy Perry or Miley Cyrus. Miley Cyrus, I could see. Miley Cyrus, I could see them not knowing how to handle themselves and just, you know. Oh, like when people get cute aggression? Right. When they see a puppy go, ah, what's this puppy? And so you see Beyonce,

you get bite aggression. Right, yeah. So who is the Miley Cyrus of the acting world? I don't know. That is the question. I pose to you, Zeitgang. We're going to take a quick break.

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Sarsha Ronan, possibly Margot Robbie. Yeah. Lady Bird pecked her face. Or maybe it was Greta Gerwig, too. Right. Yes. Greta Gerwig, I wouldn't be mad at if she wanted to do that.

If she bit your face? Yeah. Or Beyonce's face. I'd feel honored. Either way, I'm good with her. So we just booted a bunch of Russians out of the United States. Did we shut down the seattle consulate yeah shutting it down shuttered it which is spelled tt and uh i saw a headline that spelled it dd

like uh we just shuttered oh really like never mind i got you yeah uh they're running scared right but so this is actually something back during the transition from Obama to Trump. We closed the San Francisco consulate. And like I thought the Cold War was over. People are saying we're in like a hot peace period. But apparently there's like all sorts of weird espionage shit going on. So when they closed the San Francisco consulate there was just like black smoke billowing out of the chimney for like days and document

yeah and foreign policy magazine did this big report where they like talked to intelligence people in America about like just the bizarre activities that are happening around the San Francisco consulate before it was shut down. And like, there was just weird stuff. Like they followed this guy who worked there. Like they basically, it says, imagine like driving up over Mount Tamalpais to doing a bunch ofbacking through Redwood studded ravine until over the horizon you spot a giant shimmering beachfront and you pull up and there's a guy in a suit standing at the edge of the water just looking out into the water with a small device in his hand. And then he stands there just staring out into the ocean for a few minutes, turns around, walks to his car, and leaves. I'm like, that's like what they saw Russian, like, quote, diplomats from this.

Take a long drive out of the city to, like, Marin or whatever. Where they can see Russia from their beach. Right. And then, like, wave a pager, like, all right, we did it. Burn the documents. Documents burned. They would follow these people, and they would, like, go right, we did it. Burn the documents. They would follow these people and they would go out

to a gas station, pull their car up next to the gas pump, not pump any gas, walk off into a field, do laps around this tree three times and then go back to their car and then another car of Russian diplomats would do the same thing. This is how Russians exercise.

Everyone knows that. It's just Russian cardio. But it's just like so strange. That's what we would call in the intelligence community tradecraft. Right. And they kind of marked all these different places where they were doing this weird shit on a map. And they said that they think they're either nodes of fiber optics that are passing underground

that they're basically like figuring out how to interfere with or their paths that spy planes are flying over and they're basically transmitting stuff up to the spy planes. But it's just interesting context for all this like Seattle stuff is that the last consulate we closed, it was for shit like this, like like really weird sort of uh almost stereotypical tradecraft stuff going on well it's weird too because like the reason is because it's proximity to like a u.s nuclear submarine base right and like the boeing manufacturing like plants and stuff so it's like damn like what's that weird shit about like they're like okay we got that we got the subs figured out it's just hard hard to handle, to know that all of these agents are clearly operating within our country and to think that we similarly

have something going on over there, but to know that we're being led by people whose intentions are unclear on our side, or at least it feels that way. It's like, I just want to know what is happening. Because I feel like we are either super vulnerable, which is clear we've been vulnerable to some forms of espionage. But what are they trying to do beyond influence our elections and or get a Manchurian candidate

in there who may already be in there? Right. Well, it's all like a technological arms race. It's basically an everything arms race. There's weapons, there's technology, there's AI, and we're all racing against each other. And so anytime one of our best and brightest comes up with something, even if it's in the private sphere, they're going to try and steal those secrets. Stephanie Ruhl, she's an MSNBC contributor, and she said something. She was like, Trump doesn't even know what AI is. He thinks it's

a steak sauce. And I thought that was super funny. Yeah, she crushes it. She's an awesome burner. She's a sick burner. But yeah, I mean, and that's, it's like, there's so many complicated issues, and all we are ever talking about is just like, PPs and

where-wheres. Right, right. Exactly. Well, the thing is, too, with these expulsions, keep in mind, it's the least we could do in response to all of this. You know what I mean? We did this to be not left out of a really broad coalition of other countries who were taking action against Russia. Although the number, I think, was pretty high. It's the highest. But on paper, we kicked out spies. Right. We I think was pretty high. It's the highest but if you on paper

we kicked out spies. Right. So. We should do that. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. That's the lead. I'm tough on Russia. I'm gonna kick out their spies. I got their spies out. Meanwhile I don't see any sanctions on fucking Putin himself. You know what I mean? Or like other

oligarchs around him that could really get him his ass in a fucking grind. Are they the next world cup like or yeah the world cup is in russia but it's just happening it's just happening and we're going down and everyone well the u.s is not the u.s is boycotting the u.s yeah foresaw the fuckery in russia and said you know what we're not even gonna qualify those goals yeah i'm trying to get in tob what, we're not even going to qualify. We're going to miss those goals. Yeah. In Tobago. We're going to protest. Out of protest, we will fail to qualify. And so did Italy and so did the Netherlands. So they're on to something also.

But England, is England going? England did qualify, but there was talk of not going. But then every English football fan was like, yeah, okay, we're not going to go to the World Cup? No. It could be in hell. But that's kind of the world that we live in now where it's like nothing really matters. Because if this was the 80s, of course, the UK wouldn't be going because there was a real serious threat coming from our nuclear foe, the Soviet Union. But now it's like, I mean, they meddle in elections and they're poisoning people.

But we love football. They really want to play. And their level of fucking around isn't quite reached the egregious levels of people like, okay, we have to do this. It's just like, right. Is it worth trying to do?

They, they took, they literally annexed a part of Europe and then we had the Olympics there. Yeah. Right. You know? And it's just like, that's where we are right now,

where it's, it's hard to convince a population that really terrible things are happening. Right. And or are these really terrible things? Was Crimea really part of Russia that just wanted to be back? You know, and that's like the world. There is no real actual fact or answer or anything because everything is disputed by a slew of other information. Well, one fact that is probably undisputable is like you know every time there's

been sort of expulsions like this there's expulsions in kind from russia they're like there's tit for tat expulsions and so they're most likely it's going to happen again the only time it hasn't happened was when obama did it in 2016 and that was probably because michael flynn was like hey don't worry about this bro don't worry about this bro which is a weird thing to look at because that really is one of the few times i think maybe one of the only times where there wasn't in-kind expulsions or or clapbacks from russia did they kill that yeah they killed that that british uh he's still him and his are so in critical condition okay but like and we're like giving them plane tickets to go home right you know i mean like that's that's how we're fighting in kind and like you know i'm not saying we should poison their

spies but no it does feel like we're not playing i feel like you know i'm not saying we should poison their spies but no it does feel like we're not playing i feel like you know we're not playing with the same game maybe you know sprinkle a little salmonella on their salad bar right uh-oh wild wild country but yeah they're um yeah it's true we're definitely not doing enough to combat like the the election meddling and every expert even in the department of defense has has been saying that. They're like, bro, we're not really doing anything to combat this. Yeah. Aside from like, yeah, we'll sanction people that were already being sanctioned. Yeah.

Yeah, we'll expel spies, of course. Just let Daddy Mueller take control. Right. We just want Daddy Mueller to solve all our problems. So, I mean, speaking of sort of the way that the tenor of these things has changed, the Russian embassies have Twitter accounts that are essentially like trolls. They're a troll, yeah. They're not like representative of a fucking government. Right. These are, like they said, U.S. ambassadors ordered the closure of the Russian consulate in Seattle.

What U.S. consulate general would you close in Russia if it was up to you to decide? And they just did a Twitter poll. And I think they're going to go with the answer. St. Petersburg. St. Petersburg. Yeah, it's weird that their response, okay, we're closing down your fucking consulate.

Your spies are getting kicked out, and then they get petty and like, oh, well, which one should we close, fans? Tell me, Russia Hive. Take this poll and decide which one we should close in response. Yeah, and they tweeted a picture of, what's this guy? Inspector Poirot. Poirot from Agatha Christie?

Yeah, Agatha, yeah, very famous Inspector Poirot. PBS, BBC. Right. David Suchet PBS, BBC. Right. David Suchet was the actor. Right. So when we accused them of poisoning this guy and his daughter, the New York Times podcast this morning had a description of it. It was really horrifying. Like people just came up on them and they said they were sitting on this bench just frozen where they

were the two people who'd been poisoned with their eyes wide open but like completely white because they were rolled back in their heads and just like frozen and in a coma after getting hit after getting hit with this nerve agent nerve agent whoa and then they do they remember how they got hit with it no and they uh i think they figured i think they found out that it was something when they ate uh something where they ate because they had to uh get rid of all this stuff at this restaurant and throughout the mall because it had all been exposed to this toxin right uh they had to throw cars away because then they had to take the bench out too didn't they yeah that they were on yeah that's wow see and that's why Trump is on to something because he only eats at fucking McDonald's.

Right. You can never be poisoned. You get poisoned in a different way. Long term. Very, very slowly. Long term. Although he seems to be thriving. Yeah.

He's the healthiest president we've ever had according to his doctors. That might be his pill to live forever is eating two Big Macs a night. That was, I got it wrong. Yeah. I've been taking this goddamn pill once a day and I should be eating Big Macs and chicken wings.

Chicken fingers? What do they call them? Nuggets. Chicken nuggets. Sorry this goddamn pill once a day. I should be eating Big Macs and chicken wings chickens fingers. What do they call them? Man of the people But yeah So after the two people get hit they post a picture of Poirot and the embassy and UK official Kansas in absence of evidence We definitely need Poirot and Salisbury on the case. Like, what the fuck? Fucking people were poisoned like a political hit job or attempted hit job. And you just want to get cheeky and be like, okay, hit him with the Sherlock Holmes meme, the Poirot meme. That is funny. Their taste in television is the same as, like, young hipsters and, like, grandmothers.

Right, right. Because those are the only people who watch Inspector Poirot. and like grandmothers. Right, right. Because those are the only people who watch Inspector Poirot. Also, it is nuts that they used a nerve agent that only the Russian army has. So they were like,

it was us, but you can't. Can you prove it? We're going to get away with it. See what you're going to do. They're taunting us. They're taunting us. It's like, yeah, you know we did it and then it's like,

we're not doing anything. Oh, whoever could have done it. Yeah, who could have done this? Yeah, Poirot. Poirot. Another tweet from the Russian embassy in the UK is, in today's paper, pundits call on Theresa May to disrupt possible Russia-US thaw. No trust in Britain's best friend and ally?

And then a picture of Pepe the frog. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, like stroking the chin. Doing like a chin stroke, like, hmm. So cool, they like to use what has become now a racist meme. It's just crazy that Russia's consulates and embassies are tweeting in like the exact same voice as the conservative media and like conservative trolls.

Right, right. It's like identical it's insane there is zero doubt in my mind that it's collusion collusion collusion collusion like there's like it's not hard for the like smart people like those people in the russian consulates to like see what's going on and to um appropriate the language being used. Right. But also, like, it's hard to believe that there are not people on the ground here, whether they be spies or just trade tourist Americans who are much more conservative and feel like liberals are the true enemy. Like, working somehow in tandem with these people. Like, prove me wrong.

That's the thing, Poirot. Prove me wrong, Poirot. I mean, it could also just be that they're both really good at trolling and, like, they've seen that the way that they troll is effective, the way the other side trolls is effective. You don't think that the alt-right has any sort of communication with these people whatsoever? With Russians?

The alt-right leaders of some form. You don't think there's some alt-right leaders in America who are colluding with Russians to put out this type of Russians? I don't know the alt-right leaders of some... You don't think there's some alt-right leaders in America who are colluding with Russians to put out this type of stuff? I don't. I don't know. I haven't seen evidence of it. Yeah.

I'd be interested to see. But it's interesting. They haven't really done a real, at least from my knowledge, a real forensic study of Reddit because they say on the Donald Trump, the R, the Donald, there's a lot of like russian

right misinformation now that i don't doubt that yeah like where they go to feed their watering holes a lot of the alt-right is unknowingly represented by like russians and stuff and like there are people who are like you know commenting as alt-right people who are actually just you know working in put Putin's like internet, whatever. Research agency. Internet research agency. What is their end game? What do you think is their end game?

Just sow discord. So what is sow discord? To just crumble American society? Yeah. As much as possible. Just sort of, yeah, I guess break down people's faith in this democracy. And also if it's enough chaos here, that means we can't keep an eye on what they're doing at every level.

And do you think that that's possible? That people... That this endgame, that... There was a poll about how people were... I forget what it was. That there was like a surprising number, growing number of people who aren't quite sure, like their faith in the country's governance system is good. All of our institutions are losing.

There's no faith in any sort of institution whatsoever. And then we have a person in power who is sowing discord in all the purposefully. That's the thing that why I'm saying, like, it's hard for me to believe that there is not some sort of conclusion. Is Donald Trump just singularly the most perfect person that they could have gotten into power because he's such a moronic figure and he's doing this because of narcissism to create zero faith in these institutions because that's what his instincts are? Or is there some sort of like tandem process going on? I don't know. I mean, I think he just naturally is, I think this is how he would have operated with or without like a distinct mission or whatever in mind.

I'm starting to believe that that's not real. I'm starting to believe that he's a legit Manchurian candidate. I'm serious on this. I think he's as bad as a person has ever been in this world. And he's working with a group of people from the Russian side who have offered him... I think he's dumb enough and narcissistic enough to be offered a bunch of shit from them and willing to do it. And they probably have something offered him, I think he's dumb enough and narcissistic enough to be offered a bunch of shit

from them and willing to do it. And they probably have something on him, like pee-pee tapes and all that stuff too. But I don't see how this perfect storm is creating this because it's so effective.

Right. Well, I think there's enough evidence to make any conclusion sort of believable. I guess that's the most cynical one. And that's really hard for me to wrap my head around at this point to be like, oh, wow, like really? Like you just got somebody in the White House like that

and bringing it down from the inside? That terrifies me. Just with regard to whether he has done something specific and like brilliantly designed either with Russia or by himself, just by the numbers one and a million people is going to get like crazy lucky once in a while and just become president because they have the right shaped personality defect for like that moment in time and I guess that would be my question is whether

like he is able to survive and stay in the media because his personality defect is just exactly right for a world that just happened to evolve into a place where there's Twitter, where the media is defective the way that our media is defective and like will focus on whoever is making the most noise. And, you know, he became famous because he is perfectly suited for those things. So Roger Stone colluding with WikiLeaks to release information given to them by the Russians is not some sort of grand plan to. Well, I don't know. I'm just saying that trump might just be like a convenient doofus for for them and i'm also not coming down like i definitively i'm just giving the other side of i i'm just i i'm just saying it's just like it was looking more and more like um like this is a grand plan and it's certainly it's certainly weird that we keep catching them like wanting to set up back channels with Russia ahead of the Trump presidency.

It's like, what did you guys want to talk about? We have all sorts of official channels to communicate with Russia. Yeah, but we need one y'all can't check so we can talk real spicy. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like we got our own little Slack channel we use that y'all don't know about. Right. All right.

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The interesting things we learn during the break when super producers Ana Hosnia and Nick Stumpfer are able to talk is, first of all, that – At no other time can they talk. No other time and including during the rest of the workday, just during the breaks. During breaks. There's a constant jinx. Russian double agents who were poisoned in the UK, apparently it's been found that they were poisoned through their car. So that's why that car was thrown away, is through their car vents, apparently, is how they delivered the nerve agent. And then...

You think it was like one of those Febreze clip-ons? Yeah, right. And they're just like, yo, just switch it out. Plug it in, plug it in. It's just blowing nerve gas. Right. I mean, not to make light of it. Right.

They're alive. I'm just trying to make sense of this crazy world. And then Super Producer Nick Stumpf pointed out that apparently 400 people in Congress voted for the Russian sanctions that have yet to be implemented by the Trump administration. Yeah, it was nearly unanimous. I feel like Dana Rohrabacher or someone like that was the right person to vote against it. No collusion, no collusion.

Right, so that's... Hey, but we'll do the thing that we'll just renew the sanctions that are existed, and then it looks like we're doing something. We will kick out the people who need to get kicked out, and it'll look like we're doing something. All right, we're going to cover a handful of stories here in the third section. Right quick.

Right quick. So there was the school shooting in Maryland that we mentioned, I think, last week. And, you know, the NRA has been psyched about this school shooting because it was stopped by a hero with a gun. Yeah, an armed guard. Right. Stopped the shooter. So a young man went into his high school, shot his ex-girlfriend, and then was stopped by a hero with a gun.

The school resource officer took him out. Right, Miles? Is what the NRA told everybody and got that information out real quick. However- Dana Loesch. The NRA told everybody and got that information out real quick. However, the truth is a tricky thing because apparently now in the Baltimore Sun, the official reporting of the incident shows that actually the shooter had actually killed himself. And that's what happened. I think the initial reporting had said that the school resource officer did shoot the guy.

But what had happened was, according to the reporting, quote, their weapons went off at the same time. Rollins shot himself in the head and the school resource officer fired, according to the reporting, quote, their weapons went off at the same time. Rollins shot himself in the head, and the school resource officer fired, shooting Rollins in the hand, officials said. They said that the shot that Rollins fired to his head was fatal. The resource officer wasn't shooting. Sometimes the bad guy with the gun and the good guy with the gun are going to be the same person,

and it's just the bad guy with the gun is going to turn into the good guy with the gun and shoot himself, thus just the bad guy with the gun is going to turn into the good guy with the gun and shoot himself thus stopping the bad guy with the gun i can't imagine what the gymnastics are going to be that the nra has to do now they'll be like he actually uh through the power of telekinesis he charles xaviered right the shooter and made controlled his mind like i don't know i it's it's it's going to be interesting yeah they're one way or another a gun took care of the problem right now that's how yeah they're um crazy cynical about all the stuff and that good guy with Like, I don't know. It's going to be interesting. Yeah, one way or another, a gun took care of the problem. Right. Yeah, they're crazy cynical about all the stuff. And that good guy with the gun, there was also a teacher who got in trouble because she was caught being like, I'm going to blow up all of my students or something like that.

Like, she was saying it as like kind of like a joke apparently, but she got like sent to jail because of texting it or emailing it or something like that. And that goes to the idea of like, oh, teachers should have guns because teachers are better people than all of the rest of us. No, they're just normal people who are hate students sometimes too. I've worked in schools. I've seen teachers snap, you know, hard. And like, there's no way of doing with this except by taking away everyone's guns. Right. That's the solution to it. Hey, speaking of that, the former Supreme Court Justice

John Paul Stevens, who we actually talked about on yesterday's episode of the Daily Zeitgeist. We mentioned that he talked about the Second Amendment being outdated in a dissenting opinion of a 2008 Supreme Court decision that basically made it so that the Second Amendment gave people the right to have guns and have handguns no matter what, wherever they wanted. So he wrote a op-ed in the New York Times today that was like, yeah, no, I'm just going to outright call for a repeal of the Second Amendment, which is spicy. I mean, he's old enough to have actually had conversations with George Washington and John Adams. So I'm pretty sure he is an expert on this. Yeah.

I actually have first information what the framers of the Constitution were thinking. And they were like, no AK-47s. Promise me that, JPS. Promise me that.ps promise me that okay okay so i mean this is on one hand exactly what the nra wants the nra wants somebody on the left calling for the taking back of their guns to way he is a republican though is he really he's just yeah he was a lifelong republican he was appointed by republicans he's just become and he was like, my views never changed. The conservative views changed. Oh, interesting.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Republicans' views changed. I was right down the middle the entire time. So that's like, I mean, he's a 107-year-old former justice and all that, but I think he was nominated by Ford or something like that. But still, the NRA has taken the gun debate, similar to how the Christian conservatives took the abortion debate, way far to the right and aligned it with the Republican Party. But it's not crazy. Something like 97% of Americans want there to be stricter gun laws.

Just like 400 people in Congress wanted there to be sanctions on Russia. The crazy, alt-rights always talk about the deep state. There's no deep state. There's a completely well-fashioned state right now that is working against whatever the American people want. And it's right in front of our eyes. But there's nothing to do. I mean, it's impossible to break. And I don't know what to do. Our country is being torn apart literally by bullets and by Twitter.

And we can't do anything about it. Right. For whatever reason. Yeah, we're failing to anything about it. Right. For whatever reason, or yeah, we're failing to act on it. That's why these kids like marching in Parkland, I mean, whether it wasn't big enough to like,

to shake the world, you know, it wasn't a million people. It was only a couple hundred thousand people and stuff. But like, these kids don't care about what politicians are doing. Right. You know,

like Rick Santorum was like, oh, these kids, they should be learning CPR however dumb that is what he also said was these kids want oh they think like laws are gonna change their lives they should be taking action

to actually change their lives themselves what's democracy? democracy is like formulating large groups of people to make a movement to change laws to make life better. No those are whiny kids yeah whiny fucking kids who are being told what to do by Hollywood elites. By George Soros and Lady Gaga.

George Clooney and George Soros. Bunch of Georges trying to tell us what to do. You know? And I really have a lot of faith in this younger generation because that's the other thing is, like, we're living in the reality TV age. Like, our generation, I don't even know what we are. I'm, like, late millennial.

I'm late millennial, yeah. We were raised in reality television, so nothing, what is real is not real because it's all produced and all this. These kids are raised on Snapchat. Their friend's being killed in the next classroom next to them. That's the media that they're consuming

and that's real. I honestly think that their reality is going to be like, as long as virtual reality doesn't take hold before this all gets blown up. Like, I think that their vision of what is really going on in the world is realer than our generation and an older generation right now. And that gives me a lot of faith.

I think. I would just like to add a fact about John Paul Stevens born on four 20. Yeah. Let him know. 420, 1920. 420, 20. Is that true? Yeah, I just looked at this thing because I was looking like, yeah, he was appointed

by Gerald Ford. And then it was like, April 20th, 1920, 97 years old. He about to be 98. I was wondering why that article was so short. Yeah. He's 98 years old. He's like, fuck, dog. That's all I can say.

Repeal. Hit me with that CBD. CBD. But yeah, I mean That's all I can say. Repeal. Hit me with that CBD. CBD. But yeah, I mean, he talked about the kids. He was like, what these kids are doing is amazing, and it's going to change the world, but they should be asking for more, basically. It's his point. He's like, don't just ask for a ban on a couple different types of weapons.

Go whole hog. Yeah, go whole hog. Just repeal the Second Amendment. It was built for a world that no longer exists, and it's absurd to keep. What a disgusting activist judge. Right. So he actually quotes another Supreme Court justice in this New York Times op-ed saying that the NRA's current interpretation of the Second Amendment is one of the greatest frauds and then says, I repeat fraud, uh, that has been, you know,

carried out against the American people. And, you know, so it's not just this guy went crazy in his old age. It's, you know, two Supreme court, uh, justices, luminaries. Right. And actually I was reading this article recently about, um, corporate personhood. And this is a little bit of a tangent on this, but it's aligning with the idea of fraud being a part of the way that our government works. Corporate personhood was passed by the Supreme Court based on the fact that the lawyer who was representing the side of the corporations in that time said that when he was working with the people who crafted the 14th Amendment, which was about due process and equal protection and all that, that the framers of that constitutional amendment had wanted it to include

Apply to corporations. To corporations. And it was a straight-up lie he literally perjured himself in front of the supreme court on behalf of corporations and um now we have this idea that corporations deserve all of the protections that right are you talking about is that ted olson no no this is like roscoe conkling this goes way way back to like- Oh, before Citizens United? Oh, way, way, way back. No, but corporate personhood is the idea that like all corporations deserve.

And I only bring it up because it's just like so much of what rules our lives right now is based on lies and fraud. Right, yeah, because yeah, that allows special interest groups to inform our policy. They get free speech. Corporations get free speech based on the fact that a lawyer lied to the Supreme

Court about what the original framers of equal protection meant. Right. Alright guys let's get into our Netflix review of the week. Sick pivot. Sick pivot. Miles, last week you told us about

go back to where you came from. Whoa, what was that? You from Ohio or something? South. That's like a Maryland. Southern Ohio. Yeah. Coke.

Yeah, you're going to get coke. Doors open. No, the Australian reality show you told us about last week. Yeah, Go Back to Where You Came From. Now we have a new sort of documentary series. And it's the one that Casey was talking about earlier. Wild, wild country. Wild, man.

This fucking documentary is crazy. It's like executive produced by the Duplass brothers. Well, that's not really important. The story is really good. It's about Bhagwan Rajneesh Shree, aka Osho, and sort of, yeah, this group that he had and their efforts to create this community

in a town called Antelope, Oregon. And it was like a sleepy retirement community. And all of a sudden, these crazy free-loving people showed up. Sex cult. And yeah, they were like, it's a sex cult. Get the fuck out of here.

Right. And it's just wild. I don't want to even tell too much because when you watch this documentary, it unfolds like a full-on action spy thriller drama. It's got everything. It's got people that are so down to not snitch. It's got people who are down to do crazy fucking crimes in the name of women.

Powerful fucking women. You know? And, like, you know, it's one of those things, like, I was watching the whole time. I was like, okay, well, when's other shoe going to drop about this? Anyway, and again, I don't want to reveal anything because I think the most enjoyable version of you guys watching this is just to watch Wild Wild Country and watch this whole story unfold. Because by the end of the first episode, you're gonna be like, what? What? Where am I?

Where is this going? I know. Yeah. I loved it so much. Yeah, it's crazy. it so much. Yeah, it's crazy. And you guys might see this mentioned on the front page of

Drudge Report because apparently people are speculating that Ariana Huffington was actually a member of... I believe it! Yeah, they said she was a member of this sex cult. That's even fucked up to call it a sex cult.

It's not a sex cult. See, and that's even fucked up to call it a sex cult. It's not a sex cult. You know what I mean? It was a religion that wanted to change the world for the better, and sure that they had like orgiastic experiences all night long, which is how one of the townspeople was like, you can hear them having orgiastic experiences all night long.

And I was like, sounds pretty cool to me. Pretty cool. I like that adjective, orgiastic. Because in the late 70s and 80s, Hollywood just wanted to transcend, baby. Right. You know? And these people, I just can't believe we didn't, I didn't know about this. Like, it seems like it was a huge part of America for a moment.

Right. And because like 60 Minutes was, like, they have all these interviews from 60 Minutes and all these things. And I had no idea that this was a thing. Yeah. They have all these interviews from 60 Minutes and all these things. And I had no idea that this was a thing. Yeah, I mean, I've heard of Osho as the spiritual practice or the philosophy. But yeah, I didn't know, again, I didn't know that it took on this whole... Being from Oregon, did it... I was born there and moved when I was like two years old.

But by that time, they were in Oregon, I think. Yeah, no, it was... But again, yeah, it was uh but again yeah it wasn't like a thing about the early 80s right yeah 81 70s who's to say that your parents and you weren't that might be where i came from baby bag one yeah explain a lot well casey it's been a pleasure having you here i love you guys daily podcast thank you very much. Where can people find you, follow you? Follow me on Twitter at KCWLEY.

Sorry, I hate having to do that, but KCWLEY on Twitter, KCLEY on Instagram, and then I love my podcast. It's called The Gay Power Half Hour. You can find that all over the internet,

iTunes, SoundCloud, wherever you get this podcast you can probably find it too I'm with my co-host Tony Soto and I do gay weekly

updates on the world that we careered up but it's very accessible for straight people too so please tune in Gay Power check it out Miles where can people find you?

You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray You can find me at jack underscore o'brien on Twitter you can find us at daily zeit o'brien on Twitter. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at thedailyzeitgeist on Instagram.

We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the articles that we used as sources of information for what we talked about today. That is going to do it for today, Miles miles do you have

a song to write us out on yeah i was just listening to this like this thing just popped up on my spotify called the hypnotic brass ensemble uh and it was just kind of a weird i full disclosure i grew up playing trumpet uh because my name is miles so self-fulfilling prophecy uh and i just like brass bands and this was kind of like a funky brass band thing. It's from, I'm called Hypnotic Joints and it's called 100. Uh, so, you know, making brass accessible. So yeah, peep this little track from Hypnotic Brass Ensemble. All right. And that's going to do it for today.

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