The Daily Zeitgeist - Who Gon’ Check Me vs Boo, Magic Weather Rat 02.04.25

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

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But yeah, I was just like telling Jack, I'm like, why did I reflexively take all of my podcasting equipment? And I think it's just this weird thing where usually like we're just resilient. We're like, yeah, bro, I'll be able to do the show with my mom's or whatever, and then I'll be able to move back home. Right. That was my biggest priority versus like is as you. Yeah.

But even then, I don't even know what I would have took. To be honest, like in that moment, I was like, bro, I just want to get out of here with my family, like we got the birth certificate. Now we set up that pretty. Oh, you can, you got the passports. That's such a pain in the ass. That's good. Yeah.

And also my mind, I'm like, what if the, what if the fires chase us out this country, right? You know, I don't know. I also got one eye on the door. You know, I always sit with my back to the back wall of the restaurant. You know, you want to see who's coming. That's what Malcolm X, the always sat in the corner, bro. That's right.

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Listen to Decisions Decisions on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. That tried to destroy hemp because they had their own versions of synthetic fabrics that were coming out there. Anyway, all that say shout out hemp, shout out soup, shout out mail carriers. Yeah. Little homemade soup. One of the easier things to make at home and like really a huge improvement over store bought. Oh yeah. I made a broccoli soup recently because I got a food processor for the first time. Someone donated a food processor to me and I never had one

And I saw this recipe Gordon Ramsay. He just boiled fucking broccoli and then Yeah, season it a little bit and you get this really just nice broccoli soup and first vegetables are very healthy for you So I really encourage y'all to get into the cruciferous For many years. I thought soup was just the thing that came in a can. Like that was just- Yeah, many of us did. Many of us did.

It was called being in preschool. My name's Jack O'Brien, AKA, in the fashion of Knock a Few Buck by Crime Mob. Fuck Elon Musk, boy, fuck Elon Musk, boy, fuck Elon Musk, boy, fuck Elon Musk, boy, fuck- No, sorry, they do that a number of times. Ah. But I'll cut it off there. Fuck you must boy. Fuck not sorry. They do they do that a number of times Cut it off there that one courtesy of locker oni on the discord

Shout out the locker oni. Yeah, I'm thrilled to be joined once again by my co-host. Mr. Miles Gray It's the original climate refugee all-stars back in the building. You know what I'm doing out here. They can't hold me down. I am back in the valley. The Lord of Lancashim is back here. He's cruising Lancashim. They call me the Viceroy of Ventura Boulevard, the Marquis of Moorpark. Okay, I am here.

I'm back. It's been a fucking wild couple of weeks. I think I missed a few things not sure It's been quiet. It's been quiet in the news. Only thing I seen is that Luka Doncic came to the Lakers That's right. I don't think the Trump get it. He's he's in he's an he did get it inaugurated Stylish hat. Oh, I think the majority I think that about covers it. I don't know. We have a good guess. I wish, I wish I was a person who that that's how they could sum up the news and then just go on with their day.

It's like, yeah, yeah, I think his wife wore a hat and that's kind of what's going on right now and it's like Canadians are mad at us. I guess. I guess whatever. Oh, well, I love the Canadian, the Canadian crowd at the Raptors game, booing the U S F anthem. Boo the fuck out of that anthem. Boo right away.

And they did a good job. So it was like first note right when. Oh, so you knew that it wasn't about the performance. That's how you boo an idea is that you have to start booing right. Right. It kicks in. So because, you have to start booing right when it kicks in. Not letting them cook. I felt bad for the singer to have to do that. They know what's happening. But then when O Canada came through, they were tearing their shirts off and shit,

throwing their flannels in the air. That's right. They had multiple other flannels on underneath. Anyways, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests. It's one of the hosts of the incredible podcast, Five Four, about all the ways the Supreme Court is a complete disaster. She's also a supervising attorney at Texas law, has worked as a public

defender in Rio Grande City, Texas. Please welcome to the show, Rhiannon Hamann. Hey, hey. Hi, Rhiannon. I think this is my third time on. Third time guest. What an honor. I'm loving it.

The honor is all ours. Let me see that manicure. You said three and I said, hold on, let me, wow. Okay, nail game solid. Ingredients, nail game. Yeah, that's right. We got it. We're keeping it popping in Austin

in the Trump two presidency. Yeah, exactly. Just to get flier. Fresh as hell if the fed's watching right. Yeah. I learned that. I internalized that message. Yeah, that's right.

Shout out, Titty Boy. Or, I'm sorry, Two Chains. Two Chains. boom, boom. Yeah. That's right. Shout out, Titty Boy. Or, I'm sorry, Two Chains. Two Chains. Two Chains. Yes, yes. Titty Boy. Yeah. Don't let him forget.

What a great rename. Like truly, renames don't come any better than going from Titty Boy to Two Chains. We always, yeah, I felt we were talking about that towards the end of the year too. We love talking about the formerly known as Titty Boy, FKA Titty Boy. Two Chains. It known as Titty Boy, FKA Titty Boy. It was between Two Chains and FKA Titty Boy.

Good, good call by Two Chains. Yeah. A rebrand. Sometimes you need a rebrand. You do. It doesn't work with, you know, new Coke didn't work out, but Two Chains. Certainly greater than Titty Boy. Brandon, I don't think I missed anything. I would not put too much pressure on yet,

but it was mainly Melania wore a hat, Luca to the Lakers. I think that covers most of it. Gosh, what else? Elon Musk had some arm malfunction. Yeah, he waved at people weird or something like that. Yeah. You know, like I said, like we've been saying,

it's a quiet news cycle, you know? Times like this when he did that funny wave, it's times like that that I'm like, man, I wish Leno was still on the air. You know? What would that guy have said about that wave? He said it was just because he's autistic. So we got some autistic people here to see

No, what are you doing? No, anybody in the audience. No, I mean I do kind of wonder what Leno do with he's probably too busy hurting himself Yeah hurting himself miles this he owes the mob money bro,. Like there's no mob. Like there's no mob. Believe in the Illuminati, Black Eye Club. Come on, man. Yeah. Now who's naive?

Yeah. All right. I'm slipping. Rhiannon, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. Yeah. We're going to play a little game of can he do that? Which just seems to keep coming up with Trump and this presidency.

Who's going to check him? Would be the other question. In this latest episode of, who going to check me boo? Yeah. Who's going to stop me? That phrase keeps running through my head. Yeah.

Donald Trump saying, who going to check me boo? Who going to check Donald Trump saying, who gonna check me boo? Who gonna check me boo? Who gonna check me boo? We'll check in with the Supreme Court just generally. What are they about to fuck up? And then we'll just check in on Groundhog Day. Apparently, all time highs when it comes to Groundhog Day attendance. Oh.

And I wish I didn't have to say this, but it is part of the story. So I'm going to say the name of this town, goblers knob, Pennsylvania. They saw a reprised crowds. Wait, that's a real, when I saw you write that I'm like, what does this dude talking about? Why are you talking about goblers? Gobblers knob, get a fucking hold of yourself, Pennsylvania. What is wrong with you? That sounds like a, yeah, it sounds like a, like a Victorian hom of yourself, Pennsylvania. What is wrong with you? You creeps. You perverts.

That sounds like a Victorian homophobic slur or something. You gobbler's knob. Yeah, exactly. Wow. What is a gobbler even in this context? I think we all know. They might not have known what they were talking about when they named it, but I think we do now. I think they're talking about a turkey's dick.

Yeah. I already know. I've got to the bottom of it. But they had such conversational familiarity with turkey dicks that they were like, again, this town is the shape of a turkey's dick. That's why we'll call it Gobbler's knob. Gobbler's knob, yes. What a time. All right. All of that, plenty more.

But first, Rhiannon, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Let's see. Um, most recently, how can I get my cat to be normal? Uh, just absolutely begging. I'm out here desperate to, to, to find out how to get my cat unpossessed by the ghost that currently possesses her. You got a mean girl, right? Yeah.

You got a mean girl, the cat. Be like, oh my God, why are you so weird? Oh my gosh. You're so thirsty. It's embarrassing. I'm so embarrassed for you. Yeah, she's absolutely the Regina George of the household. So it's hard.

It's hard to step up. Oh no. Yeah. Wait, so what do you mean? Your cat was one way, and now it's hard to step up. Wait, so what do you mean? Your cat was one way and now it's a different way, or your cat's always been this way and now you just hit a wall. You're like, okay. I've never had a cat and this is my first one,

and she's always been this way, but surely it can't be normal. She's an orange cat. I've been told that that means something in terms of the weirdness. I thought you were going to be like, and that is weird. This cat is orange. Hey, hold on, let me put- The fruit?

You guys are gonna believe this. Let me put the cat in camera. Look, look. Orange, fucking things orange. I'm not dying, I'm not dying, the fur. Yeah, so she's Cuckoo Bananas. And yeah, whatever resources I can get my hands on to explain how it is that I have that I should be in relation to this creature that does live in my house 24 seven now yeah much appreciated. Yes I gang please hit Rihanna enough because I know we got cat lovers I had somebody in that gang helped correct my cat's like bowel issues. They're like, what kind of food?

They're like, no, don't do that. Don't do that. You need to get this kind of food. I went to the vet three times and a listener solved my shit in one exchange on a discord DM. Zeitgang, you're always undefeated. Are our listeners funded by private equity? Have they been taken over by private equity? No, they have not.

No, they have not. Has the veterinary industry been taken over by private equity? Yes, they have not. No, the veterinary industry has been taken over by private equity. Absolutely. Yes, they have. Big bet. They are fucked. Yeah. We used to have dogs and like one time we like dogs sat for some friends and they

gave us their special dog food to like feed their dog and when I was taking this dog for a walk, the shits that it took were sparkling. They were like, they like glow. I was like, dog for a walk. The shits that it took were sparkling. They were like, they like glow. I was like, what the fuck? Like meanwhile, my dog is just like trailing some nasty shit behind. I was like, is that stuck? What is happening?

But yeah, so I was fucking up. That's how I learned that I needed to switch the dog food. That's where I learned that food is important. For some reason. You're like, my gut biome isn't even this clean. needed to switch the dog food. That's where I learned that food is important. Like my gut biome isn't even this clean. What is it? Exactly. No, no. Just immaculate.

I'm like, can I do a fecal implant with the dogs? If I can get that, I'm up for that. Beautiful, beautiful coat. Um, what is, what's like, just give us one weird behavior that makes you think your cat is haunted. She screams from any room she's in, like alone. She's clearly communicating with something, right? Hey! Like that?

She climbs the walls. And when I mean wall, I mean straight claw into drywall. She is like free soloing. Wow. Free soloing the wall. A straight vertical into drywall. She is like free soloing. Wow. Free soloing the wall. Straight vertical wall. Yeah.

Yeah. When she gets amped on something. So. Damn. Yeah. Like Billy Goating the wall. Right. It's like, how the fuck did you just go to-

Spider Cat. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty cool. What's her name in Nosferatu? Some of those scenes. Like that's what Petra, my orange cat, is looking like. Yeah.

Lily Rose Depth. Lily Rose depth. Of course you're referring to. Yes. What do you think of North Farat 2? You like it? Yes. I like to look at it. I thought it was beautifully shot and the interesting visually. The plot is the plot. The plot is the plot.

The plot is the plot. That is how they wrote the screenplay. Right. There's a vampire at the beginning and there's a vampire at the end. The plot is the plot. And that is how they wrote the screenplay. Right, right. They said the plot is the plot. There's a vampire at the beginning and there's a vampire at the end, you know? That's right. Yeah. With some very skinny legs. Skinny legs.

And a weird triple death stick. Skinny legs. Yeah. Speaking of Gobbler's Knob. Guys got a dang Gobbler's Knob. Dang Gobbler's Knob on them. Check that out. Hey, guys, pause this real quick.

You can't pause the movie in the theater, honey. Watch out. You got to see it again. Dan Gobbler's knob. Dan Gobbler's knob on him. Check that out. Hey guy, pause this real quick. You can't pause the movie in the theater, honey. You got to see it again. Was that the only way they caught that? Any veterinarians in here that can back up my opinion? What is something that you think is underrated?

Big pants. I want more of them. Wide leg, high waist. They're great. I'm so grateful as a millennial that the Gen Z did transition us from the skinny pant era into now big pants. And they're beautiful. They're so much more comfortable.

I'm wearing them every day. I look more and more like a clown and I love it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I look like I've been wearing wider pants too. Just loser. It's funny. Cause I, so I lost all my shit in a fire.

And when I went to go stay with my mom, she's like, I found some of your old jeans that were like my, the shits I wore in like high school and college. Oh my gosh. Tell me why I put these on. I look like the most fashionable motherfucker of 2025. I was like, oh shit. Because they were baggy.

Baggy. Yeah. I was like, look at you, Miles. Look at you. Put the hell, you might be Gen Z. But then I'm fully back in because I also had trouble just because I got thick legs. So skinny jeans and I were never, they didn't even make skinny jeans that could fit someone with my body type. Right. So I was always like off that trend. But I'm glad now that collectively youth cultures like don't out yourself by being looking at all old and shit with them tight ass jeans.

That's right. Yeah, the youth said, we should be able to breathe in the pants that we wear. Yeah. Ugh. Yeah, I'm like, y'all think y'all know Y2K? You haven't seen this shit, my mom kept. And I'm about to fucking stunt on all y'all kids. Time capsule.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Other generations have done less, you know? Like that's pretty, bringing back big pants, I gotta give it to them. Yeah. Shout out to Gen Z. What is something you think is overrated? Having an iPad. I got an iPad.

I said 2025 is my year on top of organization. This iPad is going to change my life. I really needed that iPad to change my life in January 2025, and it didn't. Damn it. Yeah. I think we all could have used that iPad to change my life in January 2025, and it didn't. So, yeah. I think we all could have used that iPad to change your life. Yeah.

Things have been bad. This iPad let a lot of people down. Oh, boy. James Carville will tell you, you can't start a 7th string quarterback in a Super Bowl game. Hanging all your hopes on the iPad. But yeah, it's I mean, wait, what did you think the iPad exactly would like? Because I recently got an iPad, but I had a very simple goal. It was like, I want to do coloring books. And that's what I use it for, for my own mental health.

But what did you I'm curious, like, because everybody imbues like a sense of like, this is going to be a game changer. Right. Right. No, I had in my head that I was going to be a digital planner girly so I did like a bunch of shopping and like narrowing down Okay, this is the digital planner that I want and oh my gosh, how am I gonna access it all the time? I'm always gonna have my iPad on me. Yeah, everything is I got an Apple pencil Yeah, I was like writing on this. Yeah. Yeah, you jumped in. I am putting pencil paper, but on an iPad.

Literally pencil you in for next week. Exactly. And so, yeah, I really thought, I really thought just everything's going to be, everything's going to change productivity, schedule efficiency, you know? Yeah. And it just, it just sits on my couch. Yeah, right. And is this like a thing you scroll like social media

with when you're watching TV? Sometimes. Yeah. And. And is this like a thing you scroll like social media with when you're watching TV? Sometimes, yeah. And most of the time I like start to do that and I'm like, this is too big. I just want to throw on my phone. Yeah. Right.

What, like does it do anything that phones don't other than, you know, indicate that someone is a boomer when they're taking a video with it? Dude, when you're doing the two handed, like I'm holding a fucking- Two handed video video using a phone book to take a fucking picture. Damn, this chair just broke. God damn.

Miles is really in a struggle. Sorry, somebody donated a chair to me, an office chair, the fucking lumbar supports are blew out of the back. Anyway, you got my struggles. You got a lumbar that they support you know, they support and your lumbar supports back in the opposite direction. They don't they didn't know about this lumbar. But yeah, well, oh, the thing with the iPad though is like, Apple's just in

this weird place where before it made like the iPad kind of made sense in their range of products. But now they do this. You were like, it's got the M2 processor, like, like, personal computer level processing ability, but they hamstring it by not letting you run Mac OS on it. Because then you're like, well, then motherfuckers not gonna buy Mac books. So we got to keep this in this weird liminal space, where it's like not as a phone

kind of is mostly a big ass phone because it's using iOS. That's just from my own own like diving into iPad culture. I was like, yeah, right. Like if you have a specific need, it works. Otherwise sometimes like- This is scam. I got scammed. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Just big fun. Tim Cook himself. Yeah. Fucking that guy. Tim Apple. Every time he gets my ass. Tim Apple. He's back, you know he's back already. Working with Trump. Oh yeah, does what he does.

They all, they all just love it. Just right in the line. They're not on the same planet as us, y'all. So stop thinking. Is Tim Cookin' in a baggy black t-shirt and a gold chain the way Zuckerberg is these days? Not yet, but yeah. Would that, do you see that crazy ass watch he had on

that people clocked that they're like. Stupid. Isn't like a. In his video where he's like, I'm just like you guys, $900,000 watch on the dress. Yeah. It's like, it's based off the Godfather or some shit. That watch, I think he wore it on Rogan.

It was like another watch that has like a hand in it, that whatever. It's a biological human hand. Yeah. So Adam's family and their turning shit. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. He's not fooling us with his midlife crisis. Change the shit.

Real flex is using dark magic to entrap somebody's soul in hand. So it operates your thing. I'm just like you. And I want to say homophobic slurs at work also. Exactly. That was the whole message. We've got to. Facebook has been far too feminine for too long.

Yeah, exactly. You know that there is a meeting that has happened. I don't know if Tim Cook was in it, but it's happened. Where people were like, how do we pivot Tim to be more relatable? Like jealous of the Zuckerberg pivot. Oh, you're like in his own camp? Yeah, in his own camp.

Like, how do we make Tim, how do we do that? How do we get Tim? We gotta get Tim in the man's sphere a little bit. Yeah, right. Perm watch, Tim? What if he did like, he painted like one finger now? Yeah. So he's a little bit wavy, you know, cartilage piercing, you know, the upper ear.

You know, so many people his age though now just rock the one pierced ear. I was at like a very like older crowd. L.A. I was a full disclosure. I was at the smokehouse in Burbank. It's like a very L.A. restaurant where the. I was a full disclosure. I was at the Smokehouse in Burbank. It's like a very L.A. restaurant where the food is not good, but they have really good garlic bread. And there's only three things on the menu that are worth eating.

Anything else is an instant L. But you really go there. You know what? Yeah, you get the prime rib or the salmon or just get that garlic bread and the shrimp cocktail. Don't get any. I know there's other shit that looks appealing. I mean, you do not get shit as garbage, But they have a bar where like this old timey dude does rock songs and shit. And the crowd there is very much like Boomer, Elder, Gen X. Almost I'm not joking.

70% of these dudes had like one earring in and it was just wild to see him like, Oh, this is how y'all stunt like in your in in your latter days is like, I've got the one ear. He's like, yeah. So, you know, I think Trump's kind of fucked up too. Check out the earring. Well, yeah. Or like I used to rock this in the eighties and they, and they, they said it was kind of weird, but now I don't give a shit. Now look at me.

I'm retired. Well, that sounds cool. Yeah. Yeah. I've never totally understood the iPad. That sounds cool. Yeah. Yeah.

I've never totally understood the iPad. It is a thing that kids seem to gravitate towards, but yeah, just seems like big phone to me, so it, like, if I'm not trying to actively keep people off of a phone, right on, I don't totally understand that. Like if you're an illustrator or whatever, I see that if you have like very purpose specific, like it has its uses. But I think now it's just like in this place, it's like, it's so powerful. It can be a computer, but Apple won't allow it to be a computer. So it's that's where your kind of value assessment begins to wobble.

And we hate a wobbly value assessment here on the. You know, yeah, we've always said nothing. Nothing I'm more allergic to. Look, people thought I changed, but I didn't, y'all. I'm still here criticizing wobbly value assessments. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. We're going to be right back.

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It feels like the Trump administration has created this rhythm where he does a thing. Everyone's like, that's essentially against the law. What he just did. And then, yeah. And then people keep like ask, can he do that? Before we get an answer, he does the next thing that's against the law that we weren't ready for him to do yet. Right. So I think the answer ends up being no, he can't do that, at least as of right now in

a bunch of these cases. But I feel like we're moving on too quickly. And so he's like getting these like wins for him, like getting getting to flex and act like he's doing things, doing whatever he wants. But then the media isn't sticking around to be like, okay, that actually got overturned and that actually is not legal. And the federal judge said that, gave the speech from Happy Gilmore where he was like, I award you no points. Thank God have mercy on your soul. This is a quote from a Ronald Reagan appointee

temporarily blocking his order to end birthright citizenship. This is a blatantly unconstitutional order. I have difficulty understanding how a member of the bar would state unequivocally that this is a constitutional order, it just boggles my mind. Yeah. He's referencing the Trump lawyers, like the lawyers saying, it's like, how could you be a licensed attorney and say this shit with a straight face? Uh, pretty easily.

I think at the end of this like chain of cause and effect that is being started by these things, that it does come down to like who gon' check me boo? Who's gonna stop him? Yeah. The landmark here is who gon' check me v boo. And the answer is that I hear a lot is I was like, well, the Supreme Court is eventually going to have to weigh in on this one probably.

I'm a big fan of this podcast, Five Four, and it is, in addition to being educational and wildly entertaining, make me laugh, has given me a severe lack of faith in the Supreme Court to do the right thing. So Rhiannon, I just want to get your sense as one of the hosts of that show. How are you feeling as you're witnessing this first week and a half of attempted authoritarianism? Yeah. I'm sorry to throw like cold water on the whole idea that like the Supreme Court is the check, you know, and I think it's like if you if you think that if you hear that, or we hear it so much that like you're not wrong to like, think that because people say like, you know, only the

Supreme Court now can stand up to Trump or, you know, the Supreme Court's gonna have a really interesting role under the authoritarianism administration, you know, but like that's because like just like structurally, like the three branches of government, like the Supreme Court, like, yeah, it really doesn't do anything other than check the other branches. Like that is what the Supreme Court does. But so like structurally, you get why people like think at the same time, at the same time, y'all, we have to, we have to be looking at the conservative project, the project of doing authoritarianism in the United States as the

branches working together to do that. And that includes the Supreme court. So yeah, the Supreme court, while they could check Donald Trump, you know, granted him almost total immunity in office last term before he, before he got elected. So, um, yeah, we, we need to see, and with all of these cases that are about to be in front of the Supreme court, you know, while there might be some tiki tack here and there

where the court says like, ah, that's a little bit too far out there in terms of the constitutional order, we have to have to have to view the Supreme Court as an institution that is in place right now and operating right now as a green light for authoritarianism, not a check on authoritarianism. Right. Kind of has been for a while now. Yeah, yeah. It has been for a while. The first ones there, it just seems weird to me that the first ones to get there to be like, yeah, this guy can do whatever the fuck he wants, also no more abortions, thanks, that's been our time,

are the ones that people are like, well, this Supreme Court's not gonna have this. Surely this will be the line. Yeah, well, that got, I mean, it's, I was hoping, you know, I hadn't really checked the news in the last three weeks, I was like, yeah, they're gonna, they'll figure it out, they'll figure it out. They'll figure it out.

But then you have to zoom out and be like, okay, so yes, the Federalist Society, they've been taking their time saying, let's get our starters in there. We got to revamp this whole roster, baby, if we want to start winning titles. They've got the pieces now to do that. I think it's just like even the last four years where there'll be the things where they clearly come down on the side of the conservative movement and then you get these occasional scraps

that they throw out to make them seem, they're like, we're not a completely politicized body. I mean, we just did the bare minimum back there. Right. Yeah. I think it's like a real failure of legal media actually that for decades has has been like when when media when you hear about these cases being decided you hear about them Like on just the legal terms or you just hear or read about like, okay Well, this is why the fucking freak ghoul Sam Alito said what he said and this was the justification and then there's never anything else That's like oh, this is part of like a much bigger project. They've been doing this for a long

time. Here's all the people who are going to be hurt by this. And here are all of the other here are all of the other like arguments or reasons why this is wrong. So yeah, I think like media in general and how we cover and talk about the Supreme Court is like a big reason for this. But I'm here to tell you, and we on five floor say it all the time, you know, it's, it's really important to understand these six hyper conservative freakzoids. It's really important to understand that they act like politicians. They are doing politics, right? They are doing fascism, right?

When they overturn Roe v Wade, when they say say in 303 Creative that a woman doesn't have to make a wedding website for a gay couple. She doesn't even have to have a web design business to do it. Exactly. Or an actual gay couple that asked her to do the wedding website. Or a football coach who did prayer. Exactly. It's all fucking manufactured. Exactly. You have to see this institution as an

institution that is also doing implementing fascism and authoritarianism. And that's what they're there to do. And they're happy to do it. You think Leonard Leo, he's just kicking back. He's like, bro, they don't ain't nobody saying my biggest, biggest W gatherer of the past 25 years. Yeah. Absolutely on top. We do have to.

They are winning. We got to admit. I feel like a big part of the media response to Trump and the authoritarian project of the Supreme Court has been like, they'll never get away with this. And look how stupid they are to think that they can get away with this right before they get away with it. That response, like that, that response to be like,

this guy doesn't know what he's doing. Just feels like ultimately it doesn't matter. Even if he doesn't know what he's doing, it's working for him and them. And yes, they just keep winning because the opponent doesn't realize they're playing like they, I don't know. I don't know what to even say. winning because the opponent doesn't realize they're playing. Like, I don't know what to even say. Like they're being bold, right? Like the right wing is being bold. Trump administration, all these crazy, crazy executive orders, they're being

bold and they're not checking themselves thinking, is this illegal? I don't know. They're doing it. It's like, you know, throw, throw the spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks, right? And, and so the the Supreme Court to the extent that like, yeah, it checks them. We're all we're so far like the over to the window is so so right, right is so so conservative that, yeah, if you're getting some kind of check on this stuff, well, yeah, it's the it's tiny stuff compared to the in totality, how like our government is being transformed.

You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I feel like we're just like in the, like, I was saying this on yesterday's show. It's just a lot of, a lot of us are just sort of in denial that this actually like forget that country you grew up in 20 years ago. Like that shit is gone. That shit, that, that order, that old order, completely gone, completely gone.

And that is not coming back for, I don't know if it's going to come back in our lifetime even, so it's much, much more empowering to understand the assignment and say, no, this is, this is what's happening right now. And where, where's my part in all of this? Not to say you've got to be out there in the street and shit like that, like doing all kinds of wild shit, but understanding that this is something more people need to put their attention on because they are, they are fucking at the wheel and they are, we are, we've already gone through a few walls and we're

about to keep hitting more walls. Yeah. This week though, there's even more stuff that to keep hitting more walls. Yeah this week though There's even more stuff that the Supreme War business. Oh good Yeah, yeah and I was and I obviously wanted to get your take on this because One of them is very obvious to me how problematic it is and awful and backwards and then the other two I'm like, I feel like there's a little nuance that you can probably help Flesh out for us. This is the first amendment in religious freedom stuff, right?

Yeah, right. So the first one is regarding government funding of Catholic charter schools before they could get vouchers, which was only doing like a little bit of funding. Now we're talking about full-blown, the feds are now paying for full-blown Jesus schools. I was like, okay, that feels like it's butting up against the First Amendment, what I know about religion and the federal government.

That one seems pretty obvious that that could open the floodgates of all kinds of backwards teaching and weird schools suddenly getting the funding to teach whatever they want to. Another one deals with- Is it like getting in under Catholic? Because people are like, I've heard of Catholic schools. Those can't be so bad.

Like, so we'll allow. They are. They're weird. They are weird, but they have a long history. I just feel like as opposed to if it was like my mom's special version of Christianity that she invented. Right. Charter schools. You know what I mean?

Yeah. I wonder why they went Catholic. Just to. I think, look, I think they just knew they're like, know what I mean? Yeah. I wonder why they went Catholic. Just to... I think, look, I think they just knew they're like, yeah, I don't know. It doesn't matter because at the end of the day, it's more just about being like, yeah, well, whatever. Y'all doing Jesus teachings?

Here's some money. Teach on. Another one deals with parents being able to opt out of curriculum where they're being like, well, if they have LGBTQ plus characters or concepts, I do not want my child to be as ignorant as possible and to be made fun of infinitely in their adulthood. So I would like to hide reality from them as much as possible. That one, it seems like basically, I don't know, probably, can you kind of walk us through, it feels like probably at that point, we're completely upending where the power dynamic is and how children are taught to just be like,

well, if enough parents want to opt out, then you might have to change the whole curriculum or maybe you don't send kids to that school. Yeah, no, these are both pretty crazy cases. Crazy again, like this goes back to exactly what I was just saying, where the Overton window has shifted so far, right? These are pretty out there in terms of like, conservative arguments, like the lower courts and precedent over decades is pretty clear that both of these cases, like the state

directly funding religious schools, that's like unheard of, right? And then the same thing with like opting out of public school curriculum. Both of these cases obviously come under their first amendment, like freedom of religion. I just want to like, I just want to differentiate between the two.

So the government funding public schools, that would be under what's called the establishment clause of the first amendment that says like, the state can't make a law that respects a certain establishment of religion, right? That's the separation of church and state. That is the clause in the First Amendment. The second one where parents are trying to have their kids opt out of mandatory curriculum in public schools, that's the free exercise clause, right? The government can't infringe on your individual free exercise of your faith. Parents are saying, well, when my kids have to go to story time in the library at the public school, and story time features a book,

they're getting read a book about a trans child. Right. About a mom making a rainbow wig for her trans child or for a kid walking around Pride. Well, that infringes on the free exercise of my religion. Like you said, Miles, both of these cases are really, really crazy. The justices coming down in the way that the conservatives want them to really upends a lot of how we think of the First Amendment working. Right. I think in terms of choosing,

which one would be more impactful than the other, I think it's really important to see again all of these cases. There's also a case about tax exemptions for religious organizations that's coming up at the Supreme Court. Right. Look at them all as part of the project, right? Just like the executive orders, right? Trump is doing that and he's doing it at a different pace, right? Which there's a different strategy behind. But you see in the totality of the executive orders, a fascist project, an authoritarian project. We should be viewing Supreme Court cases in the same way, particularly

because the Supreme Court decides what cases it takes, decides what cases that they have total control over the cases that are going to be argued in front of them and what they want to be deciding and, and, and changing the law on every single term. Right. So in the totality of these cases, the First Amendment and the freedom of religion, separation of church and state cases at the Supreme Court this term, you see, you see a project and you see what the right is focused on, right?

You see what they're going to be trying to weaponize in the law in, you know, the next couple of decades. And here it's going to be the First Amendment here, it's going to be saying, you know, gay people existing, stories being told, queer people being around me or books that my children read that include queer characters, that's actually an infringement on my civil liberties. Right. That is, that is a fascistic, right.

That is that all of this is about creating in and out groups, a scary other, right? That we can all put our problems on and our violence on. And so again, you see the Supreme Court doing this work for a fascist movement in the same way that we can like clearly see that Trump as an individual is doing that work as well, you know? Right. Yeah. I feel like history. no, that was really all beautifully put. I feel like it's so doomsday. I'm really sorry, you guys, but we got to be clear-sighted. Yeah.

We got to be, yeah, we got to keep our eyes open and like understand what is happening because especially now that I just, I feel like the mainstream response is really having a hard time, like getting its mind around what is happening and like seeing it for what it is. Like, yeah, it really feels like there is this big fascist project. Like it's interesting because I feel like my understanding of fascism historically was they had big, a lot of bureaucracy and the trains ran on time thing was a big bragging point.

Like, this seems to be- Like, men are about discipline. Yeah. Yeah. This time it seems to be like they're just breaking everything and then when the thing breaks, they're like, oh, that's because people were too nice to gay people and black people. Exactly. So it's got kind of a new look fascism, where their incompetence and their tearing down

of everything allows for them to make an argument for the continued privatization of everything and the takeover by monopolies and oligarchs and. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But the, but why is the media like it just, it feels like the media was operating under these very specific sets of rules of like, well, we can't call this out because then it's too, seems like we're being too biased or something. And so they just, they learned whatever the media's like playbook is of like what they will tolerate, what they won't.

And just like, yeah, now they know exactly how to work inside the system. And the media like doesn't know how to just be like, this is what's happening. This is clearly what's happening. They're successfully dismantling civilization, like as we knew it. And yeah, because I guess because the media has been pretty complicit in that for so long in other ways that like that they're not willing to call it out now. question, but I do think like the media question is such a massive, such a massive like contributing factor to to the problems is that like, there's so much misinformation, there's also too much information. And the media is approaching, I think both of those categories in in both like dropping the ball and fucked up ways, in terms of too much information, for example, the media, yes, like journalists have a role in interpreting and explaining every executive order to us, right? Like I appreciate the

people who are doing that. But again, what we fail to do when we're like, okay, let's break down every executive order is we're missing the forest for the trees and we don't see that like bigger project, right? And we end up getting, we end up all of us feeling siloed in like what you do because it's like, oh, well, And we end up getting, we end up all of us feeling siloed in like what you do because it's like, oh, well, that's a law and then the way you fight that is a legal case and that's a policy at the EPA or whatever, you know?

And so the folks there are gonna fight it this way. And then, but when we see it as a project, we really like, you know, you start to see your role, even as somebody who, you know, might be disconnected see you start to see your role even as somebody who you know might be disconnected You start to see a role for collective power The media is captured a captured institution in the same way the Supreme Court is I think that's a really big problem, right? So when we're talking about you said oligarchy, I think that's really right We live now in an oligarchy that Trump is making like very clear to everybody. Like we know who the oligarchs are, right? Like they're right in front of us doing Nazi salutes

and stuff. And so I don't know who you're referring to in that case. But yeah, I get point taken. Yeah. And so and it's those oligarchs that like control the media, right? Like they're, you know, Jeff Bezos is putting his thumb down on the scale at the on the Washington Post editorial board, right? This is happening, this is happening everywhere, especially across like corporate legacy media. And then yeah, what you get is conflicts of interest, what you get is really muddied political analysis, you know, writers and journalists like going to the top who haven't, they're being rewarded for not, right? Talking in critical ways about what's happening.

And so, yeah, I mean, from our corner of things over on Five Four, we talk a lot about how legal media specifically has really failed the public for a really long time. And a lot of that is based on like, yeah, advancing in your job and relationships, right? A lot of the top like legal Supreme Court reporters, they have relationships.

They like to be able to talk directly to the justices, right? And so if you put in your column that so-and-so justice is receiving gifts from billionaires who have cases in front of him at that time. Well, you lose your access. You don't have your wine buddy. Oh, why don't you go work for ProPublica? That's what you want to talk about, you fucking clown.

We're here to do fluff pieces, okay? Oh my God, the decorations though, at Alito's home. Wonderful. I mean, we've all thought about what we would do if we were burdened by that much wealth. Obviously, you buy historical stuff and yes, sometimes fascists own it. Right. Okay. Sometimes. Covrden, swastikas.

Sometimes it's explicitly Nazi. It's historical. Can't you see? Sorry. Oh my God. Covered in swastikas. Yeah, sometimes it's explicitly Nazi. It's historical. Can't you see? Sorry, I'm just, this flag is about an appeal to heaven. Okay? Take what, just take that. What's so wrong with having an appeal to heaven?

Don't add your other stuff to it. Just saying. Anyway, you're right. And my heaven is the one from my blue heaven with Steve Bart Martin and Rick Moranis, so, uh, try to get your head out of the gutter. Got timely reference. Uh huh.

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I think this is pretty, this is pretty consequential, Jack. That's true. Maybe the stuff we just talked about in the last act, maybe you can characterize that stuff as bullshit. Some bullshit. But this is magic. Zoom out to see the larger project,

can't fuck somebody. Phil, please, please. They're controlling project. Please, please. They're controlling the fucking weather, Jack. I don't know if you know that the fucking groundhogs control the weather. Okay. Yeah. I knew things had changed from some of the articles you were fordering me

when you were out, but I didn't know about the Punxsutawney Phil conspiracy. Epoch Times, dude. Some real interesting stuff in there. Yeah. So over the weekend, Sunday was Groundhog Day. Groundhog Day. Is it ground hog or ground hog? Hog.

Does it belong to the ground hog? Yeah. Yeah. I think it should, I think we should give it back if it doesn't. Thank you. The big hero, Punxsutawney Phil, that he is like kind of the ball drop of Groundhog Day. You know, he's like the central symbol icon of Groundhog Day. We all know it from the Bill Murray movie.

Predicted, unfortunately, that there will be six more weeks of winter. And our writer, J.M., did the hard work of actually watching the ceremony. And it is weird as fuck. And our writer, JM did the hard work of actually watching the ceremony. And it is weird as fuck. I was then sucked into watching it as well. Apparently his decision. What's that? I said, how weird is it?

So his decision is communicated in Groundhog language to the Groundhog Club's president who can translate thanks to his presidential cane. So there's like a magical cane. There's the ground hog is talking to him. Like he picks a scroll that is like written as the way like in a like, Oh, cause like one limerick, one scroll says early spring. The other scroll says six more weeks of winter. Right. Yes.

And it's, it's also, also this group is known as the inner circle. I was just reading that from the Wikipedia page. They dress like barons of industry from the late 1800s, like still. This is the, actually, yeah, this is like the darkest shit I've ever seen. Now that I look at it like this, like, and they, and it's also like that fake like cult type shit where like, honestly, we're the only ones that can communicate with the groundhog. Yes.

So you don't have to believe what we say. It's just one channel. Yeah. Exactly, yeah. Also, it was like a record sized crowd at Gobbler's Knob in Pennsylvania. Look at him lifting him, sorry. Yeah.

So yeah, they go into a hutch that's carved to the side of a tree trunk. And apparently the groundhog is like, get the fuck away from me because it takes them like five minutes to get a hold of the groundhog. They're just in there like, they're like, come on, frantically reaching around. If they had mics, you'd hear them be like, come on you little fucker, get the fuck out of here. All right, hey, Punks and Tonys, hello everyone. Hey, it's Punks and Tonys here. fuck out of here. All right, hey, hey, Punks is honey-silling everyone. Hey, Punks is honey-silling.

He holds it up, the groundhog is fucking terrified. Scratching his face. Yeah, and then, yeah, the groundhog whispers in his ear which scroll to pick, and I'm just a little concerned for the first time during the course of doing this job. Now, okay. Of covering the site, guys. This concerns me that we're seeing in the year 2025, uh, record sized crowds for this event.

I just is to everyone to see the rat fortune teller, to see the rat fortune teller. Like obviously we're seeing things slide backwards half of it being like, uh-oh. And the other part being like, maybe you're like, man, the only shit that's real anymore is going out to Gobbler's Knob with the homies. Yeah, just being with the homies. Being in a crowd. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I can see like half of it being like, oh, and the other part being like maybe like, man, the only shit that's real anymore is going out to Gobbler's knob with the homies. Yeah, just being with the homies.

Being in a crowd. Yeah. And yelling at a rat for fucking us over. We crave community. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, children crave, this is something that I determined that my children crave communes

over because we did a Cub Scout camping trip that ended up like being too cold to camp. So we just like stayed in a house with a bunch of other families. And like, my kids like still talk about just like played board games. My kids are still like, man, that was fucking awesome. I'm like, that was just a commune. We were just lived in a commune for a night. Yeah.

Yeah. But I've been reading about these dad. Let's start one. Let's start one. They got some interesting ideas. Uh, just say a lot. Yeah. Yeah. But I've been reading about these dad. Let's start one. Let's start one. They got some interesting ideas. Yeah, they do. A lot of interesting ideas. Catholic charter schools, here we come. But yeah, I'm just wondering, I think there's obviously the need for community that is being ripped out in all these other places of our lives. but also I do just wonder, like, is our desire to believe in magic, just go following our institutions, slide backward into the middle ages or is, is our belief in magic making it possible for institutions to slide backward?

A little chicken leg. Um, yeah. There's, I think, I think poor think por que no los dos you know. I think these things are in lockstep with with one another for sure. I also think you know you see this like across social media for sure there's a little bit of like you know that the yearning for nostalgia you know like like let's do something that I used to do and think about when I was eight years old. I think there's a lot of things like,

oh, look at that weird rodent. When I was eight, I really thought about if this rat could see its shadow. When I was eight, I had no idea what creeping fascism was. Exactly. That's why I'm just showing a time trial of what creeping fascism was. Exactly. Exactly. That's why I'm just trying to time travel that. I didn't have student loans either. You know what I mean? That was actually a good time.

92. Where were you in 92? Exactly. People are yearning a little bit for the magic, I think, the magic of the fuzzy rat. Believe it or not. It has Santa Claus vibe where it's like, yes, yes, yes. He whispered in my ear. Yeah. Tooth fairy. Yep. Yeah.

There's a guy in the crowd who you can hear scream, we want spring. It's the only avenue where he can where he feels he can express his needs and desires. Men will go to Punxsutawney Phil ceremony instead of therapy. Yeah. And we'll scream things like, we want spring rather than I want to forgive my father.

A little bit more complex, but we'll start there. Oh yeah, we want spring, huh? What's your dad's name, guys? Sure we do, buddy. It's not related, but coincidentally my dad's name's also Phil. And then burst into tears. Dude, you fucking... Okay, well, tell Phil, tell him in groundhog ease right now.

Okay. Oh shit. Well, Rhiannon, it's been such a pleasure having you as always on The Daily Zeitgeist. Thank you so much. Where can people find you, follow you? Yeah. I'm on social media at AYRiannon. That's A-Y-W-A. But for sure, follow us on social at 54Pod, all spelled out, 54, like the numbers, but spelled out five for like the numbers, but but spelled out and you can hit us up patreon patreon.com slash five four pod if you want to subscribe and then one more thing I got a promo is that I'm on a new podcast about Palestine about the struggle for Palestinian liberation from here in the far diaspora that is called popular cradle you can follow us on Instagram and start listening YouTube,

wherever you listen to podcasts, Popular Cradle. Amazing. Go check it out. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? You know, I was never big on TikTok until, you know, the controversy. And so now I've been scrolling TikTok and yesterday came across a video of goats in like, you know, Central East Asia. I mean, Central Asia, like, like, you know, Himalayas, these like real winter guys,

these real snow mountain guys. But it's they not like us in the background. It's just the goats like jumping around, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, bam. I'm on. You wouldn't understand. Like, it's so good. It's so, so good. The type of mountain I'm on, you wouldn't understand. So, I'm sorry for the intensity, y'all, all your listeners, right?

Well, sorry, we live in a time of fascism, but goats, you know? Goats. Kendrick goats. Yeah. That's right. Amazing. Miles, where can people find you as their work in media? You've been enjoying. Yeah, I'm still on social.

Look, I haven't been checking because I have a bit on my plate outside of this, so I'm not quite checking the mentions yet, but I will be soon enough. But shout out to everybody that's reached out. Find me at milesofgray, wherever they serve at symbols. You can also find Jack and on the basketball podcast, miles of Jack, I'm at boosties and very soon for 20 day fiance will be back where I talk about 90 day fiance. Um, I just, as again, I just got it.

Got it. I got to tick a few boxes in the old personal life before I'm able to fully, fully get back to, uh, you know, doing this podcasting thing at full speed. I don't incidentally, I don't have a work of social media that I've been enjoying. I did watch the second season of The Diplomat, which was wild. This is so fun.

This is a show like Hermes and I were watching right before the house burned down. And then like, we'd kind of like, we were like putting on TV, like log in and Netflix, like you want to continue watching this. And I'm like, it's so weird how like the cloud is like, whoa, we cannot be destroyed. You wanna pick up on episode four of The Diplomat.

Just a very- Hello, friend. People like the show. I like the first season. Remember this season? Not great. I don't know. The stakes are very all over the place. And I'm like, okay, full. This is way too convenient, lazy writing.

Anyway, find that. That's it. Like a disorganized steakhouse. The stakes are way too all over the place. Yeah. You know what I mean? Thanks. Anyways, like no, it would be a steakhouse on a, on a cruise ship in turbulent waters.

All right. Let's punch this up. Let's get into a place where it's worth saying. Yeah. Use AI to clean that up. Yep. Type of media I've been enjoying. Uh, you wouldn't understand.

There it is. The type of media, or the media I've been enjoying beyond that steakhouse joke was just all the Luka Donschich stuff was great. Saw the clips of people reading, like reading the news and just being unwilling to believe it for five minutes. You're like, no. Like person being like, no, I think it's real. And the other people on the podcast being like, dude, that's so stupid.

Shut up. Shut up. It's not. Yeah. But my favorite tweet was probably from Kenny Doocy, who somebody named Lenny on Twitter tweeted, they threw Jalen Hood Shafino in the trade like some parsley. And Kenny Duzzi just retweeted Action Bronson's face saying that because it sounds so much like an Action Bronson.

They threw Jalen Hood Shafino in the trade like some parsley. Such a good joke. But really, they should give that up to Ghostface. You know what I mean? Yeah, it is. There's no Action Bronson without Ghostface and that's me being a 40 year old hip hop head. But either way, respect to Action Bronson too. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on Blue Sky at Jack OB the number

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Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy? Yeah, I've been, as part of the going through some of my old things at my mom's house I found this old J Dilla vinyl that I used to a lot called J D delicious the delicious vinyl years which is a must-have album for the for the Dilla fans out there but there's specifically I was listening to the instrumental of the of the remix of the track sometimes so this is the Sometimes remix instrumental, and this is a track that had the brand new heavies on it

and Q-tip. The track is cool too with the vocals on it, but sometimes I just like playing Dilla beats just as in the background, because they're great. So anyway, check this out, Sometimes remix instrumental, Jay Dilla. And that will be in the footnotes. For daily, that is the production of iHeartRadio.

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