The Daily Zeitgeist - Why No Lib Tears? Treat Yourself A Round Of Sausage, America! 11.13.24

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

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You can go check out one episode a week on YouTube. You can see us saying these words, these exact words, because this episode gonna be a video episode on Friday. But for you listeners, it's Wednesday November 13th, 2024. Yes, yes, Yes. Man. What a shitty there is. But there's only one day half like national holiday.

National day. Yeah. And it's National Indian Pudding Day. I don't know what that is. Dude, with that, it's a pair. I brought this up, I think, in previous episodes because at there's a restaurant in LA that serves like New England Indian pudding as like a dessert and I'm not like those two together Anyway, yeah exactly

It's this is just listen to the description of this in the 17th century English colonists brought hasty pudding to North America I was gonna guess raisins Yeah raisins in this bitch and I think cashews although they initially made the pudding with wheat due to the shortage of grain, the colonists eventually used cornmeal since the colonists had learned to cultivate maize from the indigenous peoples. The crop was readily available and then it became something over time and you put a bunch of shit on it and here we are, November 13th. So it's just oatmeal, but they were like trying to trick themselves into it being a dessert

because they were starving to death because they didn't know how to farm. Yeah I guess I mean the version I've had felt like a undercooked like pie crust with ice cream. Oh you've had it? Yeah yeah yeah yeah I've had it because I was like what is this? Interesting. They're like you're, the person's like, you're gonna love our Indian pudding. And I'm like, let's give it a shot.

All right, my name is Jack O'Brien, AKA, what's this, what's this? There's Nazis everywhere. What's this? Forth rake is in the air. That is courtesy of Halcyon salad on the discord. It's nightmaremare Before Christmas season. Probably the spookiest Nightmare Before Christmas season we've had around these parts

in a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Spoooooopy. Fascism is spooky. I've always said it. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles. Greg. Hey, it's Miles. Greg. Yay. Matt. Good.

Chodes. Matt. Good. Chodes. Don't get how tariffs would work. Shout out to Halcyon salad. And they don't have to. No, and you don't have to.

You can just figure it out for him. Blame Joe Biden when your tires cost the fuck ton of money. I don't have to. No, and you don't have to. They're big guys, you can just blame. They're gonna figure it out for them. Blame Joe Biden when your tires cost a fuck ton of money? I don't know. Yeah, thanks a lot, Brandon. Yeah, thanks, Brandon. Miles, what a thrill. It's been too long. One of our favorite guests on The Daily Zeitgeist,

a poet, a podcaster who you can hear on the American Hysteria podcast exploring the fantastical thinking and irrational fears of Americans? That doesn't sound like us. Through the lens of moral panics, urban legends, and conspiracy theories, please welcome the brilliant and talented Chelsea Weber-Smith. Chelsea.

Boys, I'm so happy to be back. It's been too long. It's wonderful to have you back. So, I'm so relieved that you're here. It's nice to see a comforting smiling face on the other side as you know, this. As we pass into the new dimension, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, truly a new dimension. Maybe that's a fun way to look at it.

We're merely going into a new dimension. Yes, something's, I like to think that when Trump came down that escalator in 2015, it was like a rip in reality and we kind of like passed into a new, a new dimension. Yeah. Like when he did that, he was having to pay actors to pretend to be supporting him.

And then it's like we, whatever fictional movie he was producing for that media opportunity, we just entered that fictional year. Yes, exactly. And he was like, there are actually, everybody's excited about it. He doesn't have to pay anyone. They're just going to show up, like entire states. Right. It's just like the tackiest start to the new world.

I think blending of reality, it's like one of those transitions in a movie where you're looking at the TV screen and it pushes in and then it becomes the fucking reality and you're like, ugh. Yeah. Or if there's options. It's just Scarface montage where he's making a bunch of money and having a ton of success and laughing maniacally into the telephone. Hey, but guys, there's, there's good news there.

There's an option it's called fighting. So that's defying it back. You know, we don't have to, we don't have to all perish. Um, it may be, it may be difficult, but that option is on the table. I'm going to let Mike Tyson handle this one for me. I think he's got this one online. I'm going to sort of use that as like an analogous battle. I'm going to have everything riding on that,

if that's cool. Yeah, very good, very good. Is it true, you guys, that Jake Paul is gonna fight Mike Tyson? Is that right? Did I make that up? Tomorrow night. Tomorrow night, okay. See, I'm only like barely in that. Friday night. Friday night.

In two nights' hits. I gotta watch that. Ooh, I gotta find the illegal stream for that. Ooh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's on that. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's on Netflix. No, no. It's gonna be so bad. He's 58, he's 58! That's so old.

That's... Just put that out of your mind. That's the circus part of the bread and circuses that they were talking about in the fall of the Roman Empire. But the circuses is the good part of the bread and circuses. And like having a mega guy beat up somebody who's way too old. You're right. No, you're right. We just saw that. We don't need... And like having a mega guy beat up somebody who's way too old.

You're right. No, you're right. We just saw that. We don't need... It's like they're like creating their own political cartoon of ass beating after the literal ass beating that we just took. Meta. Anyway, not we, the mainstream Democratic Party who can get fucked.

Not we. I didn't lose, although we all lose. I didn't lose anything. Everyone sadly will lose. I'm actually happy. Oh God, don't do that thing here. I hate seeing those fucking videos. Actually, I'm fucking happy. Oh, you think these are cures of-

Oh, you guys are gonna love it. And I'm like, don't condition yourself to be even more numb to human suffering than we already are. That's the quickest way to help. Like already going through like, yeah, when they're screaming in the streets on fire, like I'm going to laugh. That mentality will not help. I'm going to be laughing so hard.

You can't be a meme in real life. Yeah. Right. Exactly. All right. Chelsea, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. Yeah, right. Exactly. All right, Chelsea, we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. Trump has started picking his cabinet.

We might check in with that. Trump supporters are confused why not so many live tears. Why more live angry? Why the live so angry, Miles? Whoa, getting all mad at me. Why are they mad? Why so angry miles? Whoa. Getting all mad at me. Why are they mad? As soon as you cry. This is just like fun.

We will check it. The one thing, the one story I know we're going to hit today is this Wheel of Fortune contestant completely making up a well-known phrase that I fucking, is now a part of my vocabulary. I'm never going to let a day go by wherein I don't say this. Yeah. So you can find out what that is. And you can also see, I think, the most important video that I didn't see during the election that now explains everything I needed to know about the election is a Kamala Harris New

York Fashion Week event that Miles found. Stunning. Been doing the rounds, yeah. It's everything. It's really going to give. Everywhere, it's everything. It's, it's really going everywhere all at once. It's really, it's really going to make you ask like, wait, how did they lose? They are so good at this. All of that anymore.

But first Chelsea, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? This is going to double as a little promo. Um, but, uh, my weirdest one I could find is ectoplasm puppet. And I know I always bring this kind of content to you guys. And the reason I was searching that is because Sarah Marshall from You're Wrong About and I, and then my partner and our producer and You're Wrong About producer Miranda's Fleetwood Mac cover band Which is fun that you guys were just talking about it

We're doing a live show on the West Coast in December and January and it's all around Spiritualism and seances and so we're kind of designing this whole show. And so one of the things we're doing is creating Ectoplasm puppets and what these were is during seances and like turn of the century You guys all know those with the tricks. You lift the tables, things play on their own. Right. Right. They were all.

Of course. As the feather stiff as a board. Yeah. I mean, you know that, I feel like that was like the, the trickle down, the slumber party effect. That was the slumber party version. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, same, same kind of. I'm mostly familiar with slumber party culture. So you're gonna have to put it in a slumber party.

You're always in a slumber party every time. Yeah. I ain't calling my crush and stuff. That'll be my next guest. But yeah, ectoplasm was this, this trick that mediums would do when they'd go into trance and they would like regurgitate cheese cloth. And it would like, look like, um, some sort of spirit was exiting their body. And sometimes they would make puppets. So it would like look like some sort of spirit was exiting their body and sometimes they would make puppets so it would like look like they'd do this illusion where this really wild looking and disgusting looking puppet would kind of rise out of their mouth but listen guys any orifice wow sances were a lot weirder and more sexual than we talk about or think about because

why would we really even think about seances from the third of the century? But yeah, they would like, there were all of these tricks that they would do. Houdini was super involved in bringing down this woman who had all these ectoplasm tricks that she did. And a lot of times they'd paste from like a newspaper or a magazine, just a face on the puppet and be like, look, it's Abraham Lincoln. Oh, wow. Abraham Lincoln. That's Franklin.

Holy shit. Here. So yeah, we're building a puppet of our own for the show. So it's definitely like. And you'll be able to exercise this spirit from out of your corpse and into the. Yeah, maybe. Maybe, maybe not. You'll have to see. I mean, just based on the talent on the stage, exercise this spirit from out of your corpse and into the wow. Maybe, maybe not.

You'll have to see. I mean, just based on the talent on the stage, I'm like, okay, that's a campus show, but now we're talking about spiritual puppet and now I'm scared and I'm not going. Yeah. Now it's too scary. We got all kinds of tricks. We got burlesque in the show.

It's going to be like, it's a, it's kind of a theater. It's going to be fun. There's going to be sexual liberation. Oh a, it's kind of a theater. It's gonna be fun. Yeah. There's gonna be sexual liberation? Oh, yes. That is part of the show. Yes. That's wild. Is cheesecloth the very light cloth

that kind of looks like it like flows? And is that kind of what the idea was? It's kind of like hatched. You know, it's like really thin. And you use it, I don't even really know. But yeah, it's just this, it's like really thin and you use it, I don't even really know. But yeah, it's just this, it was like a very common material that was used.

I always use it in the making of cheese, but I just. Well, how could you say that? I didn't realize you could fuck around with it. I didn't know there were other uses. There are no rules when it comes to cheesecloth. What is something you think is underrated? Ooh, I'm gonna go with the Blair Witch Project, which maybe I've said. I see the hat.

Yeah, man. I just got this hat. You rocking the hat right now? Yeah, okay. Just got this hat because they just finally gave rights to the three main actors, and they were able to make their own merch. So I got this limited edition hat. Oh, dope. And you guys should check it out. It's from Michael. What's his name? I want to get it right. Yeah, Michael C. Williams. He has put out a line of merch and it's dope. And I

love them and they're repending out the Blair Witch project in this like, in its original form. So like the way I don't know anything about technical movie stuff, but it was like shot in this particular way that didn't work in theaters. And now they're putting it back out and it's supposed to be way scarier, just because you can see more in the depth that you couldn't see before. So I'm very excited about that because it's one of my most favorite movies. So I thought I'd wrap it today. And people just get a shit. And I think it's because Scary Movie really nailed the parody. People just remember the parody of- The parody was, would have something coming out of nose.

Yeah. Yeah. Just like so much Snot. Yeah, it was funny. Doesn't take much. Doesn't take much. Low bar for. Yeah.

Uh-huh. Yeah, that movie, I did not believe it was real and I was still freaked out in the theater. Yeah. I walked very quickly to my car after that one. Cause that last shot was so confounding. Yeah. The last shot was like no shot, no single shot has ever been more important to the guy facing the corner for people who aren't familiar.

Spoiler alert. Sorry. Okay. So spoiler alert. The guy. It's a 25 year old movie. Still, I don't want to fit for people who didn't catch it the first time around. It was the first time it came out.

That also true. Like part of what is affecting about it is that you don't know what's going to happen. And, but yeah, you're filling in the blanks with your mind, which is what there's that one shot, the whole movie, I think, rests on that. Up to that point, I was like, I don't really get what's so scary. Then that shot, I was like, I never want to be alone in a room ever again.

Right. And I haven't. I just remember my partner, Her Majesty, she's from Maryland, she went to, she's from Maryland and she's like, yeah, she's like, yeah. I know about stuff in Maryland and I was like, wait, that's real? And I'm like, Blair, like Montgomery Blair,

there's a high school called Blair High School and I was like, is the fucking mascot the Blair Witch? And it's like, no, no. No, deep shit. I just remember it being so Blair Witch brain that I would hear Blair in And it's like, no, no. No, deep shit. I just remember being so Blair Witch brain that I would hear Blair in Maryland and be like, what the fuck? Steve Francis.

The Blair Underwood? The legendary Maryland Terp basketball player, Steve Francis went to Blair High School in Maryland. That explains a lot. You can go to Berketsville. You can go to Berketsville, which is the town. It's a real town. And I did go there and I went to all the little

places that are in the movie. It was great. Quaint? Nice place? Yeah, great place. I'm sure they resent people like me going there. But, you know, I tried to keep a low profile. Yeah, they're like, hey, they spend money though, you know? Yeah. So I don't think I bought anything. Yeah. Oh, you're just like looking like, and go. Just taking a little picture with the sign. Yeah. Yep. Yep bought anything. Yeah. Oh. You're just looking, you're like, and go. Just taking a little picture with the sign.

Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Did you guys ever have a spooky wood by your home? A spooky wood that you explored?

Oh, yeah. I had a spooky wood behind my neighbor, Cross Street Neighbor's House in Dayton, Ohio. And they were just randomly be these drums that sounded, I don't know, mysterious drums that would just sound in the woods every once in a while. I didn't know where they were coming from. It was like some Genesis cover band rehearsing.

It wasn't like a drum kit in someone's garage. It sounds like a drum kit in someone's, you know, someone's garage. Did you fuck? Sounds like a drum circle. Yeah, it could have been a drum circle before I knew what that was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway. I did not have a, we had the LA River. Yeah, you had the LA River where you went and hung out with.

Yeah, the wizard and the other interesting characters. Colorful characters like the wizards. We've been here before. That's my woods. What's something you think is overrated? the wizard and colorful characters like we've been here before. That's my woods. What's something you think is overrated? Ooh, I wrote down a little here. I'll just read you this little line. The false reality we have created that just that destroys the beauty that lies

beneath the stories we tell about the world. Okay. There you go. I actually, it's just, I think that's great. I just, yesterday's guest used that exact same one. Oh, shit. Yeah. I should have listened.

That's really beautiful. I'm so embarrassed. Can you say that one more time for my brain? It's like wearing the same outfit to a premiere. Just the day after the election, the only thing I could do was go to the woods and just try to, and I'm not really like, I'm not a hippie, but I like touched the earth. I just said, like, remember that like this, we, everything is bullshit.

Every single fucking thing is bullshit, but you can like find those moments where you are like of what I think is like the true world and it feels really nice. And then it goes away and you only get it for like one second. Right. Right. The clouds return. Those some assholes. You want to turn to this. Yeah. is like the true world and it feels really nice. And then it goes away and you only get it for like one second. Right, right, right. And then the clouds return. So some assholes are rolling coal in their truck. Yeah.

But I think it's a good reminder just to, you know, I mean, it's like a long way to say touch grass, I guess. Yeah. But get off the internet, everyone. Yeah. More realistic and more truthful than all of the narratives that you'll see on MSNBC since the election up until probably, I don't know, three years from now. Yes. And now we can be unburdened by what has been. Yeah. And what has come before. One spooky woods. So I've gotten really into birds, Chelsea. Okay. Me too. One of the things that we recently talked about was the raven call and how ravens are really good mimics of human voices.

Have you ever heard a raven copy a human's voice? It's pretty cool. It made me think of you because it just feels like a real thing that must have caused, must have given rise to a thousand different urban legends. Oh my God, yeah. Like in the 1700s, 1800s. Cause they can mimic any human voice.

They mimic like sounds, they mimic like the sounds of our electronics. And so just people walking through the woods and hearing like voices, like coming in on the wind or, you know, just doors slamming behind them in a place where like there's no doors. That's so crazy. I just can't believe I didn't know that.

Yeah. Ravens are better mimics than parrots. What? Yeah. Yeah. There's one clip Jack played and even just like with them fucking with their like throat, they're like, it just has like the most paranormal, freaky sounds that I'm, yeah, now I'm like,

now if I ever get scared, I'm like, I say Raven, it's a Raven, it's a Raven, we're inside. Do you think, you guys? But like the voice sounds like it's coming from the bottom of the well in the ring, you know? Like it just sounds like it's like, even though the words are being spoken forward, it's like coming, it's like backwards somehow. It's just so strange. Yeah.

I wonder if there's any way it could be loud enough. I'm sure it's not, but you know, the, the, uh, big foot sound that everybody hears. It's like, I can't, it couldn't be that loud. I mean, it's like a, you know. Is it like a wookie? Yeah. Yeah. A little wookie, a little bit. Yeah, yeah. But they probably couldn't do that. Let me tell you guys one woods thing. I went out again in the woods for my birthday

and I was trying to find this abandoned gold mine. And I thought it was just gonna be like, you know, like a hole filled in, like something stupid. And I was like, but it's a fun, it's always fun to like scavenger hunt for something. Full blown gold mine went so deep, I couldn't keep going because I was alone and I was like, my family will kill me

if they know I go deep into this mine. There are people who love me. Yeah, I can't go, but I couldn't see the end of it. And I'm gonna go back with a group of people and really get into this mine. Do you have to like worry about the structural integrity of like an old mine? Cause look, I love to go places. I'm not allowed either, but like, my first thought is like, what if this shit

collapses on you? And this is the questions you get on our podcast because Miles and I are both parents now. Yeah. Aren't you worried? True. Thanks for parenting. Love that.

The, I love it. I see it. I love the curiosity. I love the turn of the floor. Yeah. Yeah. There's a story where a person got wedged in it. They're trying to crawl down through a cave and got stuck there and the authorities were notified and they're like, there's nothing we can do. Like they're just there now forever. Wow. No, I won't go into like a crevice of any kind.

I'm going to stay in the big tunnel. But anything where humans have been before. Yes. Chester Copperpot. Chester Copperpot. Little Goonies reference for all the kids. Let's take a quick break. 45 Real Kids. And we'll come back and talk about some news.

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However you got out of my deal motherfuckers. I'm still feeling spooky. Okay. It's a bad world. So this is a trend that I've noticed is people being like, why is everybody? I feel like this was happening before, but they, oh yeah, but it's a fresh round of MAGA victimhood. Yeah. I think they really had built up in their mind that they were going to actually get to drink

our liberal tiers out of their liberal tier coffee mugs. Yeah. Yeah. That there would be like I milking stations for you to just put your mug under and be like, great. Fantastic. Moving on. Yeah.

But yeah, I think people are more angry than anything right now. Well, yeah, obviously I think the 2016 was absolutely just a shock because it completely went against all accepted wisdom in terms of how campaigns or politics work. This time, people knew what was at stake and were just like, oh, okay, so we're truly like this white supremacist capitalist patriarchy that just will be like, what are the options? First of all, hold on, you say black? No. So what are my other options? Okay. I'm fine with this other stuff. But yeah, like I'm sure all of us, we've read articles, seen TikToks, seen anecdotes on social media about how people have cut off Trump voting family members this election, especially like

you have stuff where there's like the grandmother's like, why won't you come to Thanksgiving? It's like your grandchildren are gay. Do you understand what you are doing? And they're like, but that's not why I voted for him. And you're like, you mother you don't what and you see these like really frustrating exchanges happen, you know, and they're all being posted everywhere. But they're like, we're also seeing things like searches for divorce have gone up searches about child support have got like increased, like how much could I owe child support?

And I'm not saying there's a tidal wave of divorces like, like on the horizon or anything. But it's clear that as people have made their political choices clear, there has certainly been a lot of soul searching. And I think a lot of conservatives, there's like a lot less celebrating from conservatives. I think because the reaction has been so angry and been like, this place is fucking cooked. It's not like, I'm so afraid of Trump. It's like this, holy shit, dude, this, this thing is cooked fully. And they thought it was going to be like the crying, like liberal meme from, you know, 2016 outside, like a Trump protest. And they just seem to be totally caught off guard that people are just telling them their response is like, Hey, Trump one.

It's like, yeah, good. I hope you get a front row seat to all the bullshit that's going to inevitably hit everyone. They're like, huh? Whoa. And I think because, you know, a lot of the true MAGA supporters, all they know is like the sadistic pursuit

of inflicting pain on your political rivals. That's it. They know nothing of actual governance. That's the whole fun for them. The whole thing is pain, is pain. And now, so like when, so when people don't offer up the face water, and instead they're just like saying stuff like, Yeah, do you know what the fuck you've

done? Now they're like confused and doing stuff like, like, like searching tariffs or you know, what is denaturalization? And they're just kind of now acting like a confused dog that has been scolded for like shitting all over the house. So, no, yeah. Yeah. And I think, you know, it's just it's just interesting to see this sort of energetic exchange happen because I think it really does reveal what it's like again, that this was purely about being like, yeah, man, but like, let's get Trump a win just to see how like, how shit goes for everyone else. Completely ignoring the fact that this is everyone is on the same is in the

same, but well, most of us aside from like the top, like 1% are in the same boat here. Yeah. There was definitely, I think added to that a fuck the system, like, ha ha, look at the trip, the triggered mainstream media, look at the triggered libs, like whenever Trump says something that makes people laugh and point and he's kind of quiet right now. And it does feel, and the mainstream media has just gone into a mode where they're like, we're wrong, we're sorry.

We actually think he's smart now. And so yeah, I feel like they don't quite know what to do with it until he starts fucking shit up again. Right. Until the pain is really tangible in that way. What a weird thing to go through your life just being like, oh, I hope I see someone fucking cry today. I just desire that so much. It's just such a, like, it must be, it must feel really bad to be in that body of like a person that is just

hoping for tears every day. Like 100%. If like, if you're like life force is restored by watching others suffer, like purely for like the sport of it, like we're just in such a bad way already. We're in a bad way. Like in terms of how our society is working and where empathy goes or just doesn't even come up at all. Jesse Waters on his show admitted that his Trump support has also affected him too. And this is him on his show on Monday.

Oh, not Jesse. Yeah, people are taking some space in the water's household. I'll have you know that I was not invited to my mother's house for Thanksgiving. Apparently, there wasn't enough room. She said it was a scheduling situation. And then at the last second, invited me to come over on Black Friday. I told her no, thanks. I'll be at Best Buy. All right. Well, he's he got that, you know,

at least he got that. I'll be a best buy. Will you will you? That's cool that he gets to go on and say the insult he wished he had thought of to his mother about like and then I told my mom, like, actually, you know what? Fuck you, mom. Like, that's thanks for nothing. Give me a best buy buying a Nintendo switch. Like maybe two of them. I don't even care.

That's what I'm going to do. I'm buying iPad. Fuck you. Uh, yeah. I mean, I think it's again, so many conservatives just clearly thought that there are the consequences of electing Trump or merely that just saying Trump won and not again, the raft of policies that this brings. And it's just a very, I don't know. I mean, like, I guess, like, you know, part of me has always wondered like, what is it going to take

for most American people to understand like, shit is bad and it needs to change. And like whatever insulation you think is protecting you is very tenuous. It is not, it is not going to hold forever. And part of me is like, I think just like anything, especially American people, it's like we don't know until we've fully just fucking burned ourselves on the fucking fire. They were like, yeah, oh, fire's bad. Everybody said a fire is bad. I'm like, I don't know, man. My dad, he was he's a fire guy.

So I thought I could touch it. And now I'm burned. That maybe that like, I don't know. Like, it's just also fucked up to think that like, well, I guess maybe if enough of us suffer that we can move past it. But I think that's what also makes me a little bit weary when you see people gloating over the fact that people are about to suffer for the ill-informed decisions or fully informed decisions they've made. Because that is just fully like when, when all bets are off like that, that's

truly when the system won't change at all. And people are going to just fully go to their corners and be like, well, if I have to kind of change my beliefs in this way to protect myself from that, as long as I'm not those fuckers getting completely beat down, then I'm fine. It's yeah, it's, it's a very, I don't know. Yeah. Very delicate balance that, that we have right now. And I totally get why people are fucking so angry because so many people have been talking.

But again, I think this also speaks to the kinds of like who watches the news, who doesn't and just because it's being said over and over on MSNBC or maybe 60% of the time on CNN or something like that. That doesn't mean everyone is hearing that message either. And just, but I get the anger that because this is going to bring so much suffering to many people that you want to be able to sort of singularly be like, yeah, well, fuck you. And it's going to be all you or it's all going to be the people who decided to vote in solidarity with Palestinian people. Or it's all the fault of people who just felt that trans rights were actual human rights

and those kinds of things. It completely ignores the real, the damage that has already been done that we're not continuing to acknowledge. So I don't know, it's just precarious at the moment. And I hope that we're able to sort of, yeah, fully understand that the options aren't gonna be let's point and laugh,

but we actually are going to have to resist in a way and not the 2016 way of resisting. Not count on the mainstream media to do it. Yeah. To be such a big part of it because they are badly weakened and also seem to be very easy to knock off the message and just be like, wait, what? Oh, I guess he's right. Yeah. Like, I mean, one of the historical precedents that what like was going

through my head is like, should this give me hope is that Richard Nixon was, had just run for president for the third time in 1972, his last election, he won 520 electoral votes out of 538. He won 520 electoral votes, 60 percent of the popular vote. Just an all-time destruction. He was running on a racist message. Back then, he called it the silent majority, but it was just very racist message. Back then, he called it the silent majority, but it was just very

racist messaging. Also, he was very like, kind of personally, people were suspicious of him. He resigned in disgrace about like two years after being sworn in, like less than two years, about a year and a half. I think things are much different now because we don't have a strong media and we don't have a media that anyone's going to listen to. I've also been thinking about 2004 and just how demoralizing it was to have George W. Bush reelected after the Iraq war was happening. We knew there were no WMD. We knew that it was a disaster and he had lied to get in. And the fact that he still won fairly decisively was incredibly demoralizing. I think if this loss can be clarifying to people who aren't Republicans. I think that's the only thing that's actually, because those historical precedents, I think are just two different things are too kind of

fucked right now, the information economy, like how people are getting their information, who like the weakness of the mainstream media. But like just the Democratic Party completely cratered in this election and like maybe it needed to. And like it feels like there are clear and learnable lessons for whoever is going to come next, whether it be the Democratic leadership or not. whether it be the democratic leadership or not. But I, and like one of the lessons is like you need to target not like Trump can't just be the target.

In fact, like it might be helpful to not make Trump the main target and instead focus on the mainstream democratic party, the billionaires who fund it. The mainstream media, because like those are all truthfully the structural things that are standing in the way of getting, like making any progress. Right. All things that have kind of started to swing right anyway. Yeah, exactly. So I don't know. It's just, it's really bad right now. I've heard people say it's been bad before. I don't think it's ever been this bad, but you know, when things are bad, like things can swing in a hurry.

And I think this party, like this Trump presidency is going to be an absolute shit show, you know, of of billionaires just grabbing everything that they possibly can. We just need people who are willing to stay focused and work locally. But also, I don't think it's like, and we give up now because Trump won this one election convincingly. I think there are just a handful of very clear messages that you could run on. The Democratic Party completely fucking

up in this last election might actually have lit the way for a future of what not to do if anybody's willing to learn that lesson. I feel like looking at the historical precedence is really comforting even though you can't really draw a conclusion decisively. But I think on American hysteria, that's kind of what we do is we go in the past and we say, okay, how is the past? How have these through lines continued on? How do we then take these through lines and try to understand how they affect the present moment? And I mean, what comes to mind too, with like

Nixon and Bush is that so much of their platform was like against protesting and against Vietnam protesters, student protesters and Bush against Iraq war protesters and just using that. And now of course we're seeing that obviously with pro-Palestine protests. And I think that that's like, just that just came to mind as like a very clear thing that was happening in each of those elections. And it's just, that's demoralizing as well.

Yeah. But again, that was the Democrats this past time. Yeah. Absolutely. Again, that was the Democrats this past time. They were running. Like the most clear, like the quote that they were fucking putting on t-shirts is, I'm talking now or like whatever she said when somebody tried to interrupt her speech. Like that was what they were fucking rallying around.

I mean, the Cheney like focusing on having like a Cheney endorsement was not like an accident. It wasn't like they, it was part of their overall thing, which was, you know, that they were going to be what neo conservatives were. They're like, yeah, we're going to be the old, your grand, you know, Trump swept to power on this, not your grandpa's Republican Party, we're going to be your grandpa's Republican Party. And it just, again, seems like very learnable, huge swings and misses that in

retrospect of a week, a week and a half are like, what the fuck were you guys thinking? Yeah. Yeah. Well, and Democrats did the same thing with Afghanistan, Iraq, and Vietnam. War is a bipartisan issue, I think. So it's kind of just not surprising. Right. Because yeah, the people who are objecting to the Iraq War, they're few and far between. Few and far between. And those are the few people who are like, I actually knew that back then this was some bullshit. But again, it's when you're going against machines that have been fully in like, just running at full tilt for decades now. And to just like one person is just going to get crushed

by it. Unless, you know, we have a more of a plurality of people that first of all can articulate. I think that's the biggest thing is being able to articulate what the danger is, what the evil is, because right now you have a lot of these establishment liberals offering all kinds of different explanations that are avoiding actually clearly articulating what where the rot is coming from. And it's a lot of stuff like I mean do we acknowledge that Sex is a biological truth, but we also respect how other people want to like no no No, like get off that shit It doesn't like we don't need to be so bothered by these kinds of thing or not that I'm bothered

But like the idea to think that other people are gonna be so bothered because guess what, if your bills are paid, and if your grandma doesn't have to toil till she's nobody five fucking years old, they're gonna give a fuck if other people have their rights like are getting gender affirming care, that won't matter to one person. But when you are, when you are lacking so much, you start looking at what other was why are they talking about these people? What are we talking about? My grandma has to work till she's 80. Like how often are we seeing elderly people working so much and you're, this happens all the time.

You see this everywhere. You go in a circle and go, oh my God, I can't, like I can't believe this person is working. Like I can't believe that this person has to work. And we don't, we're not taking care of our people. These kinds of, these are the things that people see and reinforce these ideas that there's something has to change. But if you're coming in and because in this vacuum, because clearly the party's on its knees, you have these people trying to either prop up the same

neoliberal nonsense that doesn't get to the heart of the matter or trying to dismiss people who are actually clearly trying to articulate it because that's truly going to upset the balance of power and in terms of what is the quote on like left or whatever you want to describe this and that's kind of the stage rap because you see, you have like the Matthew Iglesias is of the world who are like these reporters who are all in on this centrist shit. And they're like, I have a new, I've behold my new manifesto that's like, that's like so broad, but

still filled with these things, like still kind of like, you know, bowing to the things that are really conservatives and they're trying to thread the needle without like properly getting like to the heart of the matter. Cause so much of the stuff is about like, we need to have like a better social safety net, but not one of these points says that we need to tax the

fuck out of the wealthy. Right. Like exactly. That's fine. That's fine as an idea, but it's like, it's like Social safety net but not one of these points says that we need to tax the fuck out of the wealthy right like exactly That's fine. That's fine as an idea But if we're not if we don't actually buy in on how we get there, then that shit is just words Yeah, it needs to be you need to have a villain you need to that's what I'm saying like the thing that

Like the first villain that Trump like killed, and I think it's the base that his entire movement is built on, was the mainstream Republican party as it existed in 2016. He talked shit about Cheney. He talked shit about Bush. He did, he went against the mainstream Republican orthodoxy and then from there was able to build his movement. Like the Democrats brand right now is to change what they say based on what they think is going to be popular. Like that is what their brand is.

Somebody needs to come forward and say that and fucking attack, attack, attack, and be the person who is opposing Trump, who is built on like, you know, tearing the democratic party as it exists to the ground. Like they changed their position on whether racism is bad. They changed their position on whether immigration is bad, like based on what they think people are going to think about that. And that sends the exact opposite message

from what people are responding to with Trump, which is like with Trump, the thing, like the free media that everybody talks about is the mainstream media saying, how could he say that? Saying that is against the rules, but by God, he's saying it anyways. And that makes him look like principled and like he believes in something. The thing he believes in is fucking horrifying, but it does send a message of like authenticity at a time when like politics prior to this was defined by

just like bullshit and obfuscation and like playing this game that everybody knew was a game, but they were playing it like they like we didn't know it was a game. So like it just, there can't be like we, we, it's not just like we need somebody who focuses on economic populism. We also need somebody who focuses on how broken the democratic party has been up to this point and is willing to like say that out loud, the Democrats are still suffering from the fact that like the last time they had a successful candidate who actually like touched on economic populism, that candidate then went and like bailed out the wall street banks in like during the financial crisis. That's like, people remember that shit too.

People remember that shit and like, you can't just come out and be like, well, this, this policy here, it reflects, like we could, you know, and like come forward with more, it's complicated policies. You need a central message that is fuck what those people were talking about. Yes, like fuck what Obama is talking about because what he did was said hope and change and then poisoned the words hope and change by bailing out Wall Street and like doing the same shit that Clinton was doing. Like you need somebody who's willing to fucking stand on that.

Yeah, because right now everyone who has been like, you know, holding the banner up for the democratic party, they are not going to, they're not going to let go. So they're, they're going to do whatever they can to say the right mix of words, to make it seem like you're like, Whoa, look, I'm Chris, I'm Senator Chris Murphy. Right. You know, like I, I, and I do get what's happening and I'm going to say I get what's happening, but it's like, no motherfucker, you are a fucking ghoul. You are also a creature of this political machinery that operates in DC and you've done

it faithfully and there's no way that we can trust you because you've already compromised the like any values you've had, because the thing is any, if you have, if, if your values are negotiable, you have no values. Right? That's plain and simple. If they're negotiable, you have none, you have none. Then because anyway, so I think I'm I'm looking forward to whatever this fight is going to be within the Democratic Party, because it will be because that's also going to say a lot about what our future like what our stakes are for the future. But if it's someone coming with that weak ass shit again, it's like, because that's also going to say a lot about what our future, like what our stakes are for the future. But if it's someone coming with that weak-ass shit again, it's like, oh boy.

Yeah. Just something that I find myself wanting to say, like Democrats tried with Bernie, they wouldn't let Bernie win. Yeah. That was a start. But like it's like we need to do better. We need to learn from that and move forward.

Like it can't just be, and that's the end. Sorry, Chelsea. Go ahead. No, I was just going to say it's like, I love all of this. And I just don't know how anyone breaks through the the brick wall of the Democratic Party to actually run. Yeah, I don't know. And that's hoped like maybe that's four years of whatever we're gonna try to figure out. I mean, it's it's I mean, at this point, it's like you just have to outright be like, I'm not gonna

fucking buy whatever the fuck you put in front of me. I don't give a fuck what it says. If it's coming from the same fucking place, I don't give a... No, no. Yeah. I think it needs to come from outside, like I do. And I know it seems unlikely at this time, but so did the strength of the Sanders campaign, so did the strength of the Sanders campaign. So did the strength of the Trump campaign.

Like people, like the system, the people are like begging for this message. And it might be that the democratic party is not going to be willing to deliver it, but somebody needs to. And I should be someone younger. I mean, like, you know, Bernie definitely helped crack the door open, but at the same time, he also did the thing that people do on Capitol Hill, which is like, let me duck low real quick. What was Biden doing? OK, I'm not going to really speak up too much.

OK. Oh, you all took it now. I got something to say now. Like that is just how shit moves in D.C. And but at the same time, I think that the other the other disconnect really comes generationally, where it's like, people need to really understand what people have been through and seen and what, what their prospects look like on the horizon rather than octogenarians who are like, I don't know, I'm probably gonna die in five years anyway.

So like, whatever. Um, that, that doesn't help. Yeah. I mean, part of the thing that is making me, like, giving me not even a glimmer of hope, like a shard, like a little, like a little- A sparkle. A buttery shard. A single sparkle, a single sparkle of hope is how weak the Democratic Party is right

now and how definitive and clarifying this loss could be to people if the messaging just starts coming consistently. This is what the people are saying. This is what the Democratic Party isn't, as currently constitute, isn't willing to say. And I don't know. Hopefully something catches. We should take a break and come back and make fun of Wheel of Fortune. All right. Yeah.

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Yo, I would, I did the the one my one game show experience. I went on Jekisa's comedian feud. Yeah. Family feud with, you know, my episode was like comedians and improvisers versus podcast hosts. And I got up there and did not I did not like have my I was like just fucked up. So like, I get it. have my I was like just fucked up. So like I get it. OK, I guess.

Yeah. It ain't like, look, I love Wheel of Fortune because it's precisely one of these shows that you watch and you easily start pumping your own ego up. And you're like, oh, yeah, I am way fucking smarter than this motherfucker. You for real. And then there are those moments where you're like, I got it. And you say it out loud. And then you've clearly used a totally like incorrect spelling that just only exists in your mind.

And then you immediately take a seat because you're like, okay. Yeah, yeah, that was, you know, before I said some really problematic things about Italian people. Have you seen the one that happened in May where the guy was talking about the butt? Does this? Yeah, no, I don't think so. one that happened in May where the guy was talking about the butt. Does this? Yeah, no, I don't think so. OK, I just want to I just want to highlights of we'll forging people being very bad.

I just want to make sure I just want to get this out of the way. So we we realize that this is a thing that happens all the time. This is this is from May where a guy was trying to solve a puzzle. Again, a phrase. And this is how he decided to solve the phrase. ["Total Beauty"] Tavaris, right in the butt. What?

No. I mean. I'm shocked they aired it I just love again. It's also like this weird Rorschach test to really right in the butt I'm not gonna lie next explanation exclamation point, but this is something in the butt The way this man's face fell when he says it No, wait, are you telling me it's not right in the butt? This is the best. Yeah, that's epic.

Yeah, this is the best. Great, great, great. I love watching people catch up, like catch up with themselves after they've spoken, and you can see like, whoa, hold on. Right. It's like the shockwave from an explosion. It's like you saw it, and then you're like, huh? And then it's like, oh. Yeah, fuck this. It's like the shockwave from an explosion. It's like you saw it and then you're like, huh? And then it's like, oh.

Exactly. I say right in the, hmm. Yeah, that was maybe that wasn't the... On TV? The audience was like... Oh, this is on TV, right? The audience was like, huh? No.

I think the Wheel of Fortune audience does tend to be even older than Jeopardy, right? Like it's the- Oh yeah, I mean, look at that. People who used to be able to keep up on Jeopardy and now they're like, I like my crush words. Right, right. So Monday, there was a contestant that again, in the time-honored tradition of just taking liberties with a very well-known phrase, this was what the board looked like. And again, apologies for those of you listening to it,

but it looks like a one, two, three, four, five, six word phrase. Um, and you're like, okay, I'm, I'm starting to maybe figure out what, what this could say. First word is blank except for the E at the end. Second word is obviously yourself. Yeah. Next A, round of, and then the next one is a US E ending. Yeah. So this is how this puzzle was solved.

I'd like to buy you. Well, you're going to get three. Okay. Okay. He's feeling good. He's like, I think I know what this is. Okay, well, let's hear it. Treat yourself a round of sausage. That's not it. Over to Katina. Okay. Give yourself a round of applause. There we go. Treat yourself a round of sausage.

Like you hear him lose the confidence halfway through. I think he said no immediately to himself. Let's say that him doing this. I'm pretty sure that was Seacrest, but I was like, Seacrest is too much of a professional broadcaster to be like, oh, okay. This is, yeah, this you get, I just love hearing, no. I like to solve the puzzle.

Okay. Well, let's hear it. Treat yourself a round of sausage. Oh no. It's hard to say. Treat yourself a round of sausage. Sausage, no. I'm so furious that Ryan Seacrest is the new host also.

It's just, there's gotta be someone out there. There's gotta be someone else. I feel like Seacrest even hates doing this job. Yeah. And he's probably doing it for 40 years now. Is he addicted to hosting? This man has just fuck you money. But you're still, I mean, that's probably how, what was that phrase from the documentary

that Crofton was telling us about? What was it like a thirst, like a starvation of popularity or something like that? That maybe encapsulates Seacrest thinking where he's like, dude, if I, if I'm not hosting, I'll die. More numbers on the board. I was cursed by a warlock who said the moment I host less than five things, we'll die. That's why I'm here. Oh, fuck. Treat yourself a round of sausage. Yeah, treat yourself a round of sausage.

I've been watching Celebrity Jeopardy, or sorry, Celebrity Wheel Fortune with my granny every week when I visit her. Such an angel. And yeah, we like, I've grown to like Pat Sajak because it was his last like stint and I never liked him. I was like, he always, like I always found him very annoying. But this time I was like, I love him and now he's gone and it's Ryan Seacrest. And he just doesn't have, he doesn't seem human to me. He doesn't actually like interact with the subject in front of him really, in a way that is meaningful to me, but maybe, maybe I don't know Seacrest as well as I think, do we have Seacrest defenders in the house? Kind of floating through the world in a bubble of just like slick, you know, like

it's just everything. Nothing touches him maybe by design. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. You do not have a Seacrest Defender in the house. You do have a Pat Sajak hater in the house. I would recommend.

If the feeling of missing him ever gets too hard, I would recommend just like Googling some of those political tweets. Oh, good. Okay, I didn't know about these. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you ever miss him too much, just be like, what was that guy about all of these?

I remember getting so fucking triggered by seeing him behind home plate in the World Series. I'm like, this man, motherfucker. Wow, okay, all right, I didn't know. Shit. Like, hey, it's like, hey. Nor should you. No right. I didn't know. Shit. Like, hey, look. Hey. Nor should you.

Nor should I. Why should I? You think Johnny Carson had good politics? Like, these are just people who, like, we didn't have to think about. I don't know why I went Carson. I'm not 80 years old. Someone lovable. You think Ed McMahon?

You think my boy Ed McMahon? Oh, you thought Bob Hope was doing it for the troops? Fucking idiot, he's doing it for the imperialism. I got one more good Wheel of Fortune mistake, and that was a friend of mine whose sister was on Wheel of Fortune, and the puzzle was up. She tried to solve it, and she said salmon and wafers, but it was salmon and capers. It's not a great one, but it is like, was pretty devastating.

And we were all just watching it. Yeah. Like, oh, you know, just having my Sunday salmon and wafers. Yeah. Delicious. I love those cookies. The ones that are like the little wafers and then they just filled with salmon in between. Yeah, just thin slice blocks. And you're like, ooh, are these strawberry? What the fuck is this? Oh, fuck. And that's why they're fun.

It's like the gum that turns your mouth black. Great people. All right. I do want to quickly, so we talked yesterday about how the Harris campaign blew through a bunch of money. This being the video episode, we just have to watch this video briefly of the New York Fashion Week event

that the Harris campaign spent. Do we know how much money they spent? I don't know how much money they spent on this, but it's, it ain't cheap to throw an event during fashion week and this based on the amount of like infrastructure that it wasn't just like, Hey, let's set up some tables at this other event. Like this was like, Oh, you are invited to the Kamala HQ fashion week party. Generally they spent $1 billion and ended up $20 million in debt, I believe, is where we closed out.

Where'd that money go? Anyone? We're about to see one of the places. We talked yesterday, there was a bunch of paid celebrity appearances. They weren't like, here's a briefcase of cash, Oprah claimed that you vote blue, but more like we're going to pay to throw a concert or to have a Oprah show. Like a live stream. Yeah. Basically doing all the production for

these massive media events with huge celebrities. And then they were also throwing sick parties, like the one you're about to see. A lot of activations, a lot of activations, as you like saying that these are called activations, Jack. And this is definitely an activation. This is marketing speak right now. But yeah, this like, Tech Talker who I think is from France based on his accent is just kind of like completely gobsmacked at like whatever this is. And, you know, it's just so, I don't, again, this, I think fully underlines how bad the

decision making was and how over the top and out of touch. Jen O'Malley Dillon is one of those names that if they are attached in any way to the political cause that you are hoping gets some tailwinds behind it, you might want to freak out because that's who ran the Harris campaign. And let's see. Let's see how that one. This dude is so fashionable though. I just have to say that hat is I'm like now never look like I'm never have that kind of swag.

It's like a little page boycott. Yeah. Look how dystopian this is. So it's a graphic on a DJ booth abortion rights are hot. The laws or whatever. This is a Jenga set where the Jenga pieces, the pieces are labeled national abortion ban, far right authoritarianism, cut Medicare, no abortion pills. NDEI in all caps. Okay. And so it's a Jenga tower and each Jenga block has a different right that might tumble to the ground.

If Donald Trump wins. It's precarious our situation. And we don't know if we remove one of these things, how the rest could tumble so on the nose and just fucking weird. And you can play it's actual. It's a real thing. And so we'll go skip ahead a little bit. Oh yeah.

Then there's the bar, the themed bar. There's also, these are the cocktail, Madame President's Spicy Rita. What is American 47th? Oh, 47th President. But those are weak asterisks. Hotties for Harris. Hotties for Harris.

Then there's like, Harris then there's like so Oh, then there's this one the grab them by the dot dot dot like claw grabber game Oh That's cool. And it's a bunch of cats in there. It's cats in there. Okay This is good. What was that? Just I just said I was just asking if they were cats in the This is good. What was that Chelsea? I just said, I was just asking if they were cats in the machine I couldn't tell.

Yeah, no, it was all cats. Of course, of course. Great, great. It has to be because it's a bit, we're talking about, do I have to say? I mean, I work for Call of Duty. No, I got it. I'll say it if I have to.

I'll say it if I have to. I think we know. That's where I would have been parked. I would have been parked there all night. I love claw machines. Yeah. Turning the whole thing into like a Disneyland attraction. It's horrible.

Like it's like, what if the Simpsons had a theme park? What if, what if- Yeah, then there's like a couch. Preeping authoritarianism. Property of JD Vance couch. And I will never make another JD Vance couch. Then like, Hall of Hotties? What?

What? Dude, who the fuck are, what? Anyway, it's like one of those things, too, where you can tell just by this setup that they are so flippant about the rights that are at stake. Yeah, they clearly didn't have they they the stakes weren't even clear enough to them that they're like, what if we neemify your lack of access to health care or having agency over your body. Yeah.

Like what if those were games? Because that's how we look at it. I mean, that's like what's revealing is that I think it goes into the fact that they think this was the, this was the fucking wave. No, no. I do just want to take back earlier. I was saying that like the thing that was really off putting about the Democratic Party was that they made it seem like they were playing a game with like our rights and like instead of like having actual conviction.

But after I see the blue state red state Plinko game, I have to take that back. They seem real serious about this shit. Yeah. Yeah. And I get like trying to make things fun or whatever. But again, who are these events for and who are you talking to? Because this is some, this is some just echo chamber nonsense. Like, who's going to that and be like, oh my God, dude, I went to the common fashion week part already.

I'm at fashion. Yeah. So that fucking nukes like 99% of the electorate. And then then you're like, you expect them to be like, oh, then they Yeah. So that fucking nukes like 99% of the electorate. And then, then you're like, you expect them to be like, Oh, and they had to grab them by the dot dot dot little kitty grabber game. I just like, Oh my, I'm like, I get it now. I get it. Thanks to this fucking whatever this event cost.

And that's just so infuriating where this is like, let's just talk to ourselves and the people that are running the campaign are like, yep, this is where we need to be. This is where the money needs to go. Boom. We are the last 10 people to read Malcolm Gladwell's tipping point, 15 years after it's been debunked. And so we're actually trying to persuade the taste makers here. Mavens, if you will.

Some mavens, some connectors. And we think the way to do that is with hotties for Harris. And what was the one, Abortion Rights Are Hot, spinning on an LED screen with like, MS Paint level like flames underneath it? This was definitely some PowerPoint ass, like 3D graphics, which I get. I know that's the like aesthetic, you know what I mean? For like merch or like other stuff, but not like this actually looks like abortion rights are burning up in flames. Yeah, abortion. And maybe that's what they meant. Did you ever think of that about that miles? But yeah, they like that they just have an

They just have an innate capacity to take everything that they're supposed to be representing and make it seem uncool and alien and inauthentic. These things that are just very straightforward, these are things that matter to people. And it's like, well, do they matter to you now? Yeah. That I've turned them into a spinning graphic over fucking cartoon flames at a party with like people who all look like the bad guys from the Hunger Games. Now, how do you feel? You're terrible. You've made me feel terrible about all these things. I found, I first, I wasn't sure if this event was real,

because I'm like, this surely has to be some kind of fake ass propaganda or something. And then I looked because I saw reporting on it, but then I found the website of a creative director who worked on this event, and it was part of their portfolio. And I'm like, oh, yeah, this is real. This is how they described it. Quote, in addition to our love slash rules pop up, wall of weirdos and hall of hotties activations

from the previous event, we added in some new creator moments. Creator moments, okay? Just photo ops for influencers. Like a tattoo parlor with temp tattoos I designed. A reading nook with models reading banned books. Phone booths where people could call and write to friends to encourage them to register to vote, games including Your Rights Are Tumbling

Project 2025 Jenga, a cornhole where the bags are votes for Harris Walls, football toss, wacko weird policy, grab them by the claw machine, and loads of little moments around the space to encourage voting. We also created a whole slew of new moments around the space to encourage voting. We also created a whole slew of new merch for the event, including jumpsuits, hats, sweatshirts, matchboxes and more. Yay. Yay. Yay. Yay. This everything's on the line. You still decided to do this shit of like, what if we like the people who did this were like, I want to be a fashion link. You know how we're going to do that. We're going to throw a fucking campaign there. And that's it. That's that. That's it.

The only person who thought this was good was because they wanted to stunt at Fashion Week and that's where the fucking money went. So like and then they and they're still asking for people for money. Fuck. Did you guys notice that the model is reading bell hooks? Yeah, like, yeah, she's reading. No, it's a guy. It was a guy.

Was he shirtless? I almost shirtless guy. I feel like he was? No, it's a guy. It was a guy. Was he shirtless? I almost shirtless guy. I feel like he was either shirtless or shirtless guy. It was a woman, was it? No. Could you imagine? She's reading like a woman for the guy, the male model. Oh, my God. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. You get the we do probably need to see the male model reading.

Yeah, let's see. Dude, the guy can't even he doesn't even look like I don't mean this fucking disparages me. He doesn't look like he knows how to read. He does have a shirt. He does have a shirt. He has a tank top and he's got his little Clark Kent glasses on. Yeah. And yeah, all about love bell hooks.

My God. He's even got his finger on his chin like hmm. Because he is an actor. Bell hooks, my God. He's even got his finger on his chin, like, hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Because he is an actor. He is a professional. He knows how to sell. Yeah, and then you ask them about, all right, so what was that book about?

I had my, I had my, I had my fall. Two glass eyes. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. I cannot read. The joke's on you. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what to say other than like, this is the most illuminating thing about the campaign that I wish we had seen a week and a half ago. Like this actually looks worse than that MAGA fashion show. Right.

We were laughing. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because it costs so much and you got way worse. Also shout out to that, the dude who was singing there, like it started DMing me. He's like, I heard you talk about me on your podcast about my performance. I will say the audio was bad.

Yeah. All right, fam. Good for you, bro. He's definitely like on some like, Hey, I'll take the attention. And I'm like, yeah, all right. That looked like that was up there with fat Joe at the world's theater. He's like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, all right, fam, good for you, bro. He's definitely like on some like, hey, I'll take the attention.

And I'm like, yeah, all right. Nah, I figured. That looked like that was up there with Fat Joe at the World Series. It was just like uncomfortable performances. Yeah. You're just like, well, hey, I can feel. Now you got this guy reading bell hooks. It would probably doesn't mean people.

He seems comfy. Yeah. Yeah. He's not sweating. No. Chelsea, what a pleasure having you as always on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

Well, you can listen to American Hysteria anywhere. I only have Instagram at this point, none of the others, and that is at American Hysteria podcast. Come and swipe through our catalog, you'll probably find an episode that interests you. Check it out. For sure. It's a great show.

Yeah. Thanks for having me. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Well, hmm. I've been really liking, I saw every horror. I'm just talking about horror movies as always, but I saw every horror movie this, that was in theaters this, this. Oh good.

October. Yeah. I'm doing important work. And Smile 2, I'm going to shout out Smile 2 as one of the best horror movies of the year, which I never would have thought. No, I think it's fantastic. So take my word for it. All right. And then best horror movie of the past five years. What's your, not definitively, but just first one. My opinion, Barbarian. Barbarian. Yeah. That one brokely, but like just first one. My opinion, barbarian.

Barbarian. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Mm hmm. I'm broke through. That was a good one. Miles, where can people find you?

Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah. Find me where they got ad symbols, miles of gray, also on blue sky. I think that's milesofgray.besky.social. I think that's how that works. I don't know. Just find me over there. I did one tweet or one.

One sky. Sky. Blue. One sky. Sky. Blue. One sky. Um, anyway, I, I just do appreciate that the feed looks normal. Like you actually get stuff from the people you follow and people that might be relevant rather than like suddenly weird hacks on how to whatever. Um, let's see, you can also find Jack and I on the basketball podcast.

Miles and Jack on Mad Booskies. You can also find me, uh, dissociating on four 20 day fiance, uh, with Sophia Alexandra, where we talk about 90 day fiance. So check that show out. Uh, I do like a couple of tweets cause they are just super dumb and funny. Um, at user moose on TWT tweeted white people be like, yeah, just come in through the garage. on TWT tweeted, white people be like, yeah, just come in through the garage. Through the garage.

Come on. I love that. Hey, it's great. It's different. I love it. I love coming into the garage. I'm not going to have my garage based people. We like garage just so much. We fantasize that all the best companies were made in them.

Yeah. That's how much we like garage. Truly. Truly. Another one is from at Krona Key tweeted, Fisherman Kendrick Lamar. Me and my rod are trying to get you, you fish, you fish.

I appreciated that. Let's see. I don't think I've been enjoying much on social media. I did just go sign up for a Blue Sky account. Jack OB1. Oh, J-A-C-K-O-B the number one. Okay. It's a OB1 reference. OB1 play no D. OB1 play no D, but I couldn't. That one looks weird. So that's where I might change that later, but we'll see. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's

episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yeah, it's by the artist Kendreza. Q E N D R E S A. And her music's like kind of fusion-y, R&B sort of throwback kind of energy. It feels very like 80s R&B kind of stuff this and very like breathy vocals. Again one of those songs where you hear it and it's like not so modern that you it roots you in our our world now but maybe takes you back a couple decades or you can pretend that you're not here right

now. So this is Too Much the number number two, MUCH by Kendreza. All right. We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. That'll do it for us this morning, back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye. to tell you what's trending and we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye.

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