The Daily Zeitgeist - Why The Scream Mask Is King, Nuremberg Trials In The MCU? 10.30.25

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

In episode 1956, Jack and Miles are joined by actor, improvisor, comedian and founder of Sweet Tea Studios, Douglas Widick, to discuss… Maybe Don’t Give Nazis The Superhero Movie Poster Treatment? Amazon To Go On AI-Inspired Layoff Spree, Why Is The Ghostface Mask So Iconic? And more! ‘Nuremberg’ Trailer: Göring & Other Surviving Nazi Leaders Face International Judgment The King's Man credits scene explained: How does it link to real-life history? Amazon To Go On AI-Inspired Layoff Spree Amazon just cut 14,000 jobs, and it’s not done Why Amazon’s Automated Hiring Tool Discriminated Against Women The Origin Of The Ghostface Mask In Scream Is Delightfully Mundane MTV’s Terrifying Mistake? Wes Craven Explains Why the Original ‘Scream’ Mask Is Too “Perfect” to Scrap Loren’s Ghost: The Haunted History Of The SCREAM Mask LISTEN: Jumpy! by PachymanSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oh, Catherine, I thought of you because on yesterday's show we talked about a woman who named her a newborn daughter Disney. And I was just curious as your take as a Disney, one of the Disney adults who I confer with at times along with a few others. What's your, what's your take on naming your daughter Disney? You know, I think it's a little on the nose. It's a little on the nose. I thought you'd say that. we like Disney, so we name them Disney. Oh, okay.

Our favorite movies is Disney. So we named them that. My favorite food is hamburger. So this is my kid, Burger. It would be like, I'm a big movies fan. And so I named my kid movie. What? Like instead of like a character from a movie.

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Corrupt detective, two men bound by injustice, and the quest for redemption, no matter the price. Listen to the Crying Wolf podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 412, episode four of... Do you daily sight, guys! This is a production of IHeartRadio is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it's Thursday. Day, October 30th, 2025. All Hallows Eve.

Oh, yeah, Evive. And Eve, it's the Double Eve. To you. Hey, if you like Wicked, the film musical, it's your day. It's national, or you're just from Boston, and you think something's cool. It's National Wicked Day, pal. It's National Publicist Day, Speak Up for Service.

I don't know, fuck that is, National Candy Corn Day. Nope, sorry. No? Fucking hate, anyone who listens to the show, for the last eight years and I was like fucking hate candy corn. Famously, I do not listen. Oh, no. It's a one-way street here.

Famously, I do not listen to anything you're saying to me. I do like candy corn. It's just little little nuggets of frosting. And I will take them. Do we think that there's like a contingent that is like, actually the real scary day is October 30th, that's National Wicked. Like they've just, they're the biggest losers in a feud ever. They're like, I don't know why everybody dresses up on the third.

31st. The 30th is the real day. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, man. My name is Jack O'Brien, a. I'm a sugar freak. Sugar freak. I'm sugar freak. That one, courtesy of no clue on the Discord. Because I'm a bit of a bit of a sugar freak.

They're replacing chocolate with sugar in our candy this year to cut costs on their end. And I might be the one person who's like, yes, yes, please. Thank you. Yes. Yes. Yes, don't mind if I do

As I reach into my kid's candy bag Hey, look over there Friled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray As Miles Gray Okay, got dark chocolate in my lip When I dip you dip we dip I put the chocolate in my lip

When I dip you dip we dip Okay shout out to Charles Enui Fomage Charles Enui Frommage If you want to completely disrespect The French language I pick up what you're putting down Thank you for that, aka because, yeah, the dark chocolate, the special dark Hershey's that you

get on Halloween, I don't chew those. I let them melt in my mouth. It's just a much more pleasant experience with the dark chocolate melting down. And good for your teeth and gum health. Exactly. Four out of five dentists recommend that you just pack a big lip of chocolate. My friend Kevin always used to say this shit, he's like, you know what I would do? He's like, remember airheads, that candy?

He's like, I put a little bit and I put them, I line my teeth, my upper and top lip, so I have sweet dream. when I go to sleep. He had the worst teeth. Like you're making like a dental cast? Yeah. Yeah. His front teeth are riddled with cavities. He won't get a fixed. It's like shit.

Yeah. It's worth it for the bit. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny actor, improviser, a founding member of the hip-hop improv group, North Coast, and founder and operator of Sweet Tea Studios. It's Douglas Wider! Oh, it's a daddy with a patty eating York peppermint patties.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, it is. It's just going into Halloween theme, aka Douglas Parmesan. Yeah, yep, yeah. Deep Parma in the building. Mm-hmm. Yeah, oh, Rick Ross. Okay, I caught that. I caught that.

Oh. Hey, how you doing, Douglas? Wonderful to have you here. Wonderful partner of Big Money Players and a lot of the shows that we make over there. Yep, yep. We have a lot of fun with the IHeart podcast in here. We have a stradio lab in here, bombing with Eric Andre in my studio. But most of all today, I get to have fun with you at TDZ, a podcast of which I have heard is the best of the best of the Iheart crew.

I thought I've heard very little. Yeah, this will be interesting. I thought they were lying that this was even a show when someone was reaching out of the book. I thought it was a community hang. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Well, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better.

Hell yeah. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about there's a new movie called Nuremberg starring Michael Shannon, Romney Malick, and Russell Crowe. And they just dropped some of the posters for it. And they kind of gave Herman Goring, like a superhero treatment. It's just like, Russell Crow is goring. Yeah, and you're like, go.

So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about a bunch of layoffs at Amazon that are happening because of AI. It's happening. It's happening, you guys. Can't wait for that universal basic income. Oh, yeah. Certainly. They stopped talking about that, huh?

That was pretty quick. Yeah, that was quick. And then I want to talk about the ghost face mask, which I have observed in the past is the most popular Halloween costume that I see every Halloween. And apparently it is the most worn and sold costume for Halloween in the United States. And I just want to talk about, why it's so popular. Yeah. Why everybody love Ghost Face so much?

Mm-hmm. All of that, plenty more. But first, Douglas, we do like to ask our guests. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay. So I've been very into DJ sets on YouTube lately. Okay. So I never thought I would be that guy that was like,

I want to hear someone else's music. preference. But because of so much decision fatigue in my life, I love just pulling up someone in their living room and they spin vinyl for me. So I've been searching a lot of DJ sets, like specifically dub music. It just helps me zone out at the end of the day. So lots of DJ sets. Wow. So you like listen to some like old Trojan dub kind of vinyl like. Like yeah. Yeah, there's something about dub this. Yes. Wait, you, oh, so you, I love. I love. I love watching DJs on YouTube. There's like so many fun ones.

There's so many now that I see at coffee shops that I'm always like, okay, now everyone's getting so into like the background of where they're DJing. But I'm like, sure, man. Get it into the coffee shop. Oh, I love a good setup. I love them like, okay, what are the plans they've got? They've got some cool lighting.

And, oh, I've never heard this song. And, you know, they're not making any money off it because all the rights are going to it. It's just about the vibes. Yeah. Check out drum and bass on the bike. Drum and bass on the bike. guy who during the, like, height of lockdowns wanted to, like, DJ, he's like a drum and

bass DJ, but wanted people to do stuff. So he's like, well, for all outside on bikes and just biking as one big mob of people. So he has like a huge tricycle that he spins on. And there's like a thousand people on bikes behind him. It's, wow. That's sick. Yeah. I love that. Yeah, I'll take that out for sure. Taking the, like, animal herd approach to whereas they can, they can pick up, they can pick off some of you around the edges. but they're not going to get us all. No. Not when we're 2,000 strong.

Yeah. You know what's funny is on the back, on the other side of that, I have no interest in a silent disco. Like, I would never want to go to a silent disco, but there's something about a drum and bass on the bike that sounds really fun to me.

Yeah, yeah. That's what silent disco is where everybody has headphones in. And so to avoid noise violations and also to encourage just freaking out anybody who, like, happens upon them. Yeah. It's about upsetting other people. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like that. I think the upsetting other people is part of the joy of listening to loud music. Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah, you want an old man to like wave a fist at you. Yeah, exactly.

A little old guy called the shit poop. What is something you think is underrated, Douglas? Okay, underrated. This is my hot take. It's not too cultory, but New York City beaches. I think, you know, people are always talking shit about, like, oh, Coney Island's dirty, rock away, this or that. I think they're awesome, totally underrated. I go all the time, even when it's cold, to rock away.

I feel like, like, I don't know, I feel like it's totally a little paradise out there. I've never, I've been to New York a lot, but I've never gone to the beach. I'm always curious because I see people at the beach. I see people with spaghetti on the beach. Yeah. But what- spaghetti on the beach? Yeah, it's like a Dominican thing, apparently.

Yeah. I kept seeing like narrow going. He was talking about eating spaghetti on the beaches out there. But what do you think? I guess I look at it from an L.A. perspective and I'm like, New York is not a beach place. Exactly. But it is? There's part of me that's like great more for me when I hear stuff like that.

So first off, water's cold in L.A., water's cold in San Diego. Water's cold here. So anybody who's like, oh, well, you know, it's warmer out in California. you're like, sure, it's generally, the air is warmer, but the water's still cold in both places. You're going to have to wear a wetsuit either way. But there's like a decent breakout here. It's a great cross-training for a lot of different type of waves. Like, there's great food. Like, there's great energy. And it's also got like a little DIY music scene by the beach. And I just feel like it's like definitely something that a lot of people haven't tapped into who live

here, especially, I mean, obviously during the warmer months, but even when it's not warm, just like, getting out being near the water there are whales that breach out on a rock away from like uh it's like during the fall they the whales come out i've i've served when there's like porpoise like schools of porpoise out in new york and people just like are like oh new york city beach that's disgusting i would never go and i'm like cool yeah because we're all thinking it's like you walk off the beach and you have like three different syringes stuck into different parts of your body yeah i'm just thinking of like the East River? Is that why people are just like, it's the East River, right? Water dirty, New York.

Yeah, yeah. That's my shorthand. Also, some of the best tap water. New York City does. Shout out to the Ashokan Reservoir. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, and maybe when the Ramones were going to rock away, maybe there was syringes in the water, but. Just from them. Just from them. Supplied explicitly by them.

Yeah, I mean, it is, there's a book called the Power Broker that is about like the building out of it. a lot of the beaches and the parkways and the attempt to democratize all of the things that New York has to offer by a horrible racist guy named Robert Moses. But it is cool to see, like, somebody was just like at a time when ambitious people went into doing public works projects and built that whole thing out, it is pretty inspiring and also a little depressing because it feels like it takes place in a different universe than for sure yeah where where we exist now and have to uh hope that some tech billionaire tries to develop something in in a place that we

want to go maybe robert moses will get the marvel treatment on a poster too if for yeah so when you're going to the beach of the winter are you're going to surf or are you going like fully clothed to like look out at the water and feel guilt about killing your friend, Big Pussy. Because that's my only experience of New York City beaches. Yeah, no, I mean, it's definitely with the surf intention. If the waves are too big and above my skill level, I'll watch people surf. But it definitely has to do with the surf community there. But the best surf is in the fall.

It's when the hurricanes hit. It's when the storms are hitting. And so it's more consistent shaped waves. in the summer that kind of flattens out and it's not as good as surf. So, yeah, pretty much year-round. But, I mean, I even last, there was like a really great 10-day stretch

last January. And I said, F it, I'm going in the wetsuit. I'm getting some salt, water, and some sunlight. And I went in, like, 30-degree weather last year. Good for you. Wouldn't be me? You don't feel any guilt about having killed

your good friend, big pussy. Look, he was, he was collaborating with the feds. There's a for you rat. He was a rat, your father. It had to be done, you rat, fuck. That's everyone in New York. Yeah, yeah. What is something you think is overrated?

Okay, I struggled with this because I didn't want to say something too current. But I've got a current one and I've got a not current one. My not current one is I'm not into 80s new wave music. I think it's overrated. Anything that's like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. It just sounds to me like, like it sounds like an unwashed blanket of sound.

What is, give us an example of, like, I, I heard the example, like, what's the most famous, yeah, like, you know, Smith's, maybe I'm fucking up the genre, Morrissey, is that the wrong genre? I'm not super into Smiths and Morrissey

type stuff. Yeah, that's what I was assumed you were talking about. Yeah, with my little, yeah, but you know, and like, I, I think he's a badass person but I'm just not super into like the talking heads of it all I know they're like legends

just some of that genre doesn't like I love 80s music I'm a yacht rock like fanatic Oh so you're yeah okay that makes sense because if you're fucking with yacht rock You're not trying to hear like And I don't know I go yeah yeah

You get you get it Yeah I'm like give me Loggins and Messina Yeah that's you I mean they're kind of close It's pretty close. The rug is just like from a warmer beach. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know?

Yeah, exactly. Like, the difference is, like, I feel like an English person doing New Wave, like, Electro is looking at, like, the Thames and it's gray. Yeah. And everything is so fucked up. And then you have a yacht rock where it's just McDonald's, like, with his, like, chest out. Tell him here's a stranger. A rich girl. Yeah.

What's your more current overrated? Oh, man, season four of the morning show is not doing it for me. I don't know if you're caught up on the morning show. Sorry, I haven't watched it. They lost me with the free preview they gave when Apple TV came out many years ago. Okay, so you're not, okay, okay. This season is dragging pretty hard. Wasn't it sort of like mirroring like the Matt Lauer thing that first season?

That was how they got out the gate. Right, right, right, right. season one and Steve Correll as a canceled sexual harasser is always going to be funny no matter what show it is. Right. I think the difference is like his, like Michael Scott didn't get canceled, but then this character did, but still kind of the same guy, very cancelable guy. He, I feel like he is good at channeling the worst human beings alive right now.

You know what I mean? Like, because he apparently nailed the Matt Lauer thing. he's that movie mountain head is like you know i i enjoyed parts of it but his performance is fucking so it's like a peter teal-esque like billionaire right yeah fox catcher another great pervert his donald rumsfeld uh he really is underrated evil bastard actor yeah but what so what where have we gone since the the matt laura storyline we're in ai land And we're in, the U.S. is now receiving dissidents from foreign countries, but unintentionally in the morning show is in the middle of the international drama.

The woke new CEO ended up becoming just as bad as your straight white predecessors. And that's, that's a cool, like, interesting idea, but the way it was executed was very melodramatic. And there was some payoff, but, man, it was just like getting there. it just really felt like, oh, so yeah. I feel like AI stores both when it's incorporated into the making process, and also when it's the subject matter has not done great things for, I mean, I don't know. I'm kind of a freak.

I didn't like the latest Tron movie starring Jared Leto as a superhero AI. I didn't see it, but apparently it sucks shit. But yeah, I feel like trying to get people. brains around what AI means, that that's not where we're going to go for it. It's not going to be the writer's room full of, you know, middle-aged people who are reading the New York Times and being like, man, I guess this is the wave of the future, huh? Right. Yeah. Better read us something about this angle technology. What if it's just like magic or something? Just like really good at stuff. Yeah. I think it's hard to extrapolate like a human angle from something that is so extractive

of humanity and it's like you're always having to inject the humanity into it. Right. Yeah. Well, it's weird because TV news is as good as it's ever been. Oh, yeah. You know, in its golden age, so it's weird that the morning show has not. Like, yeah.

It is funny. Like, it, that feels like a premise that made sense maybe even like 10 years ago when people are like, Good Morning America versus the today show. Like, that's a big rivalry and television. There's like a lot of ad money at stake and I'm sure that's still true, but like I don't feel like I've heard anyone talk about either of those shows in over a decade.

Well, there's also just so many shows like that there are shows that I haven't heard people talk about. They're like, oh, dude, it's the best show out there. And then you watch it and like, oh, it actually is pretty good. Damn. Yeah. Just too much shit out there. Too many shows. There's something you are for you.

I don't really dip my toe often. I'm watching the chair company, which I really. enjoy. Although the third episode made me feel like I had a type of mental illness that I haven't had up to this point. But I watched the first two. I'm obsessed. It's so funny. I loved the second episode. Yeah. But what, uh, is there, is there something you're streaming that you're, you're feeling particularly? That's what I had. I had the chair company. The chair company. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Great. Have you watched Emas? No, I, because Her Majesty also wants to watch it. So I was like, I had a plan to blow through the first three up, just solo.

But you know how it is, man, when you respect a show that you're supposed to watch with your partner, that inevitably they don't watch after the first episode. And then you get three weeks and you miss the discourse. And then you have to binge watch it on the finale as you can keep up with the discourse. And then they ask you what happened. I thought we were watching it together. But they wanted to watch fucking reruns of Buffy. We've all been there.

That old trodden well told tale, yeah. And you call your partner, did you say Her Majesty? Her Majesty. I love that. I love that. I might be stealing that, Miles. It's fine. I mean, she is the Queen of England, so. Oh, okay. Cool. Sorry, it's an AI chat bot that I said should be the Queen of England. We don't want to go too deep into that. It gets really sad.

Well, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about the news. Cal Penn, and on my new podcast, here we go again. We'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host. Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science, politics, and pop culture. And each week, one of them will be joining me to answer my burning questions. Like, Are we heading towards another financial crash like in 08? Is non-monogamy back in style?

And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands like two minutes early? We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lili Singh, and Bill Nye. When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong. Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, because it is. But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to Here We Go Again with Cal Penn on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Crying Wolf Podcast is the story of two men bound by injustice, of a city haunted by its secrets, and the quest for redemption, no matter the price. White victim, female, pretty, wealthy, black defendant.

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The forces shaping the world's economies and financial markets can be hard to spot. Even though they are such a powerful player in finance, you wouldn't really know that you are interacting with them. And even harder to understand. Donald Trump's trade war, 2.0, is only accelerating the process of de-dollarization, which in a way is jargon for people turning away from the dollar. That is where the big take from Bloomberg podcast comes in, to connect the dots. How unusual is a deal like this? Unprecedented.

Every weekday afternoon, we dive deep into one big global business story. The biggest story of the reaction of the oil market to the conflict in the Middle East is one of what has not happened. Katie, you told me that ETFs are your favorite thing. They are. Explain that. Why is that the case? And unpack what it means for you. Our breakfast foods are consistent consumer staples,

and so they sort of become outsized indicators of inflation. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I live below a cult leader, and I fear I've angered her. Well, wait a minute, Sophia. How do you know she's a cult leader? Well, Dakota, luckily it's I'm not afraid of a scary story week on the OK Storytime podcast, so you'll find out soon. This person writes,

My neighbor's been blasting music every day and doing dirt rituals, and now my ceiling is collapsing. I try to report them, but things keep getting weirder. I think they may be part of a cult. Hold up, Sophia, a real-life cult? And what is a dirt ritual? No clue. But according to this person, contractors are tearing down the patio to find out what's going to going on with her ceiling and her neighbors are not happy.

Well, she needs to report them ASAP. She did. And now they've been confronting her in really creepy ways all the time. So do we find out if this person survives their neighborhood cult or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And let's start out with a little pop culture. Woo, a little poppy, coach, colch. Mm-hmm.

So next month, it feels like a lot of the movies that are supposed to be awards contenders are coming out. And I haven't seen these particular movies I'm about to mention, but like based on reviews, they're like not supposed to, like, people at festivals were like, yo, House of Dynamite. The latest Catherine Bigelow or... Oh, the Netflix one, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Bagonia. And it seems like people are pretty tepid once they've dropped. So we're kind of the exception being one battle after another,

it seemed like it was kind of, I don't know. Again, people were like, yeah, it's good. And then everybody really, really loved it once it dropped. Not a commercial success, though. Yeah, not quite a commercial success. But we do have the first trailer for, Nuremberg from writer-director James Vanderbilt. Do we know who that is?

I'm not familiar, but it's a historical drama starring Michael Shannon, Rami Malick, Russell Crowe, that wowed the Toronto Film Festival last month and drops next month. It's a World War II, like this seems like a cool, I'm glad this movie is coming out. It's World War II in the European Theater has ended. Adolf Hitler is dead, spoiler alerts.

His accolite and designated successor, Herman Goring, played by Russell Crow, has been captured, the allies led by the unyielding chief prosecutor, Robert H. Jackson, played by Michael Shannon. When Michael Shannon's serious in a movie, it's- Oh, it's frightening. Very frightening. I hate serious Michael Shannon. Yeah, it freaks me up. Because he's like, is that funny to you? I'm like, oh, God. Yeah, I just talk like that.

Yeah. I like stoner Michael Shannon. from like that movie mud. Yeah, yeah, a little more fun. Have the task of ensuring that he and other surviving leaders of the Nazi regime answer for the unveiled horrors of the Holocaust. That's based in reality. They made Nazis answer for their crimes.

Just sort of taking it, taking the temperature based on what I see now. Wow, wow. I thought they were all chilling in Argentina, Max and with a Mai Tai. Well, now they're just giving money to Argentina. Oh, well, there's still an Argentina connection right now with $40 billion we gave to him. Wait, so that's, do you know, you know Herman Guring, right? He tried

to, he found out Hitler was going to off himself and was like, hey, dude, can I be the juror? Can I get in on that? Yeah, that's what he did in the last day. And then he was kicked out by Hitler was like, get this motherfucker out of here. That's just an idea of what Herman, Herman Gurring was all, he made, he was a fucking vile

motherfucker. He was also the dude who was pressing the Reichstag fire immediately to be like, it's communists. It's communists. Yeah, real architect of a lot of the bad shit that happened. It was a second most powerful Nazi, yeah. And it is, I don't know, maybe it'll be instructive to see how people could be potentially at some future hypothetical point held accountable for their war crimes. But it is nice to see also that those people still are so driven by their own narcissism and ego.

They're like, hey, dude, you're going to off yourself in the bunker. Can I get, I get that? Can I get it on that, dude? I've been kind of bided my time here. I was hoping this is my spot. Jesus. So to promote the movie, Sony released online character posters,

which is, you may recognize those from like when X-Men first class came out, and there was like a beast poster. Right. And, you know, Superman had a character poster. There was a Star Wars, The Force Awakens one with Han Solo, and then they really fucked up the right side of his face.

I don't know if you remember that. But it, yeah, it's, the proportions were way off here. Yeah, for poor. I think they added a blaster, like holding it up over his face and then we're. What's funny, because his face is actually at an angle. And then they used a straight on perspective to fill in the other part of his face, which is why it looks so weird. And like a younger person, it like seems like that part of his face has Botox.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Leave him below. But, yeah, so character posters usually used highlighting popular heroes like The X-Men, Superman, Han Solo, and people had literally, like, made the joke when Christopher Nolan was releasing Oppenheimer. They, like, made parody posters with, like, Robert Downey Jr., Oppenheimer, with, like, him standing in front of, like, a mushroom cloud. Soin. With his, like, folder of papers, too.

Like, he's like, I'm, I'm an inventor. Oppenheimer! But yeah, nobody really assumed that they would employ this strategy for a historical drama about real-life tragedy. So Sony deleted the posts, but I just feel like probably a good rule of thumb not to try and marvelize literal Nazis. Yeah. You know? Yeah, I think that's, I think we'd all get behind that. No need to do that.

They could just put like a piece of shit or something and then say, Guring. Yeah, there you go. I say, you know, what about the lawyer? Let's marvelize the lawyers. There you go. Or some of the people holding them to account. To put them in the hero's journey, you know, it's like, okay, we give them cool backlighting. We give them beautiful touch-up.

It's like, are we going to start thinking, oh, who was this guy? Right. Why is Gering fucking shredded? Why is you smirking like that? Why is Gering's shirt opening? He has rippling six-pack abs. That's so weird. Why is he carrying those twins on his shirt?

shoulders. I mean, marketing movies, like, has never been, like, that discipline has never been above trying to fool people into seeing a movie by misleading them about what the movie is. Yeah. There's many famous, like, trailers where it's like, oh, I thought this was a totally different genre of movie than it was. And I do wonder if in this case, they're trying to hit both sides of the American populace by being like, yeah, we're going to like make a movie about them being held to account. And then they're also like, hey, look how cool Guring looks for like trying to get like Stephen Miller to like go to the movies. You know? Yeah, let's get Guring with a kettlebell, you know, some lifestyle. Yeah. Right. This thing, his facial expression,

Russell Crow as Herman Guring facial expression, it looks like if you didn't know the contact and you took away his outfit and just his facial expression, you'd think this was like Mr. Holland's opus or some shit. Where it's like he's very pleasant and he's like, huh, yes, what a good life I've had. You're on trial for your fucking war crimes. And because you didn't get the firing squad, you ended up taking a cyanide capsule the day before. But anyway. So aspirational.

So boring. Yeah, yeah. Going out like a G. Yeah. I want firing squad. No hanging. Give me the sign. Then I don't know.

Who gets these people to sign? I'm always curious, like, who's handing that off to them? Oh, man, you need a cyanide capsule. Oh, man. You need a Nuremberg cyanide guy? It's Helen Hunting contact. She shows up, gives you the cyanide, and then leaves. Right, right, right.

Yeah. Our writer, J.M. pointed out that this is not dissimilar from, have you guys seen the Kingsman movies? The Kingsman franchise? At the end of Kingsman, which was the last one and the one that did, the least well. It included a post-credit scene that introduced Hitler as if it were

like Thanos or something. Like he comes out of like a door like bathed in light and they're like, yes, it is our new secret. No, he always needs to be sweaty. Like he always needs to have like the meth sweats with his hair flapping around. Like that's, don't

just he always needs to look stressed out and like a loser. Yes. You ever see that video? I guess it's not a video. I don't think they quite had digital video back then, but the film real of him just sitting at the Olympics and, like, you've always, we've

all seen, like, the photos of him, like, standing upright and, like, watching the Olympics, but somebody, like, actually got moving camera footage and he is, like, rocking back and forth and just, like, working his jaw. And, like, it's just like, this guy is so high. It's fucking unbelievable.

He's, like, uncomfortably high at every moment of his life. And, like, all those speeches that people like, yeah, really, really a great speaker. I've always been like, he seems fucking, like he is tweaking. He's yelling because he's geeked up on the speed. He's to fucking settle down. Yeah, an amount of meth only reserved for fighter pilots and Hitler.

Right. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think the whole society at that time was kind of on one. They started really handing out meth pretty freely. Yeah, didn't know it was readily available at the time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They were like, have you guys heard about this shit? Infetons? Please. Tell me more. The furor is addicted to them.

Makes your feelings disappear. Go on. Makes you really good at big engineering projects. That you'll never finish. Which, I mean, that kind of was their thing. They were like, we're building a giant, didn't they have a giant magnifying glass? Yeah, I believe this is, I remember this from the Crack Day's Like, the number of, like, uncompleted Nazi projects that were, like, tornado gun, checking. Oh, yeah. Like, the railway gun.

They had a rail gun. They had a giant space magnifying glass that was going to use the sun's beam to, like, roast entire sections of the globe. Oh. Yeah. Just very, like, meth projects, just a civilization littered with, like, unfinished meth projects that were never going to come to fruition. And then some of them did. They had like a train that had a giant like three football field sized rifle. And it was just like, so this is going to be hard to aim.

Right, right. It's on a train. But. And it's too big. The sun gun does feel like peak drug addict invention. Yeah. Where Hitler's like, I bet he had a fucking magnifying glass. He was fucking with all high.

And he's like, oh, fuck. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on a second. Hold on. Inventors, because like, when you read about it, it's like they research the concept, but that feels like a thing is like, yes, we'll look into that. And they probably looked and I'm like, what the fuck is this guy talking about?

Dude, a giant magnifying glass. It's just all one am. Yes, it will incinerate the targets on Earth. Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. All right. Just briefly going off of the story we were talking about yesterday on yesterday's

trending about the fact that we are seeing a, you know, right-word shift, not just here in the United States, but across the globe, and connecting that to people's feelings that may be the current order of things wherein we just trust corporations to take care of everything, maybe people are starting to feel like not great about that. I don't know, the year 2008,

and we're just seeing the outcome of, you know, everybody losing faith in that system, which is still sort of a default. fault in a lot of places. And the only other option being fascism, just another piece of evidence that people might be looking at. Amazon announced that they're laying off 14,000 corporate employees, and that's not the end of it. Reportedly, the job cuts will ultimately reach 30,000 because the company wants to replace the workers with, you guessed it, AI. Oh, I was going to hope so. I was hoping more people.

With higher paid employees. Dang, again. Which, by the way, and just like, this will be greeted as like good news by Wall Street. Oh, 100%. Like this will be seen as a good thing. So it just seems like a bad system to where like this is the option that we have other than fascism is like, I don't know, Amazon is really excited about this AI stuff. Right. Let's give that. Let's give them a cut at that. This is all going well because as we've talked about on the show, every example or at least the most significant examples of people being like, my whole human customer service team, bye, welcome AI.

Welcome to the new age of AI. Oh, shit. Yo, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. It's on fire. It's on fire. Please come back. Please come back. Please come back. What was the one, Clarna? Yeah. Clarna. Yeah. Clarna went for it and they had to immediately rehire human beings because, like, this, it sucks. Yeah. It's not a place that allows you to go in debt for like a $5 Uber Eats order. Yeah. They let go of their entire customer service team and then a year later.

So, like, I was talking to people about this. I was talking to, talking to some other dads about AI, you know, as we do, fellas. And they knew that they had cut their workforce and handed it over to AI, had no idea that The CEO of the company, it would seem to be a pretty significant story, had no idea the CEO of the company a year later, had literally come out and in the media openly been like, we fucked up, man. The AI doesn't work at all.

Like, this sucks shit. Because the way it's covered in the media is just that, yeah, amazing things are happening with AI. They're replacing humans. And so, yeah, that feels like that's the message that's getting received. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Or so many people on like shorthand, they use like the short hand of like, oh yeah, like I'm sure like with AI like all this other stuff, like they're sort of have bought into this thing of just like evoking AI as this other thing that's working in tandem with humanity to make things better or easier is like the truth rather than an all out advertising marketing blitz from the people who have spent billions of dollars trying to get this shit going to make it seem like that. You just kind of automatically fill it in. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Amazon, is this their first we hired or we fired humans for AI, like, interesting.

They had put an AI algorithm in charge of hiring. Okay. The opposite. Okay. And had to yank it after a year when it became clear that the tool systematically discriminated against women applying for technical jobs such as software engineer positions and was just like bad at the job that they put them in charge of. I wonder if like the developers of that hiring area were like, well, that's an improvement.

You know, because before it was racist and misogynastic. And now it's just misogynistic. Yeah, and it just hates women. So look, the next one, it'll probably hate some other group that we can't figure out how the bias he's got in there. Yeah. And Duolingo had a similar problem. Their CEO said, oh, yeah, we're going fully AI. We're letting a ton of people go at Duolingo.

We even fired the owl. We even thought. It's like, okay, so I can learn a language and speak it to nobody. Like, there has to be humans involved in the process of learning a language. And, yeah, I mean, like, I'm all for cool tools, but not when they remove the person behind the process. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't they, like, delete their whole, like, social media accounts?

Because the backlash was so insane. We don't even need human translators. And then it was just like, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God. The backlash, the backlash. Yeah. Yeah. We're not heading towards the Jetsons right now. We're heading towards like, you know, scorched earth, people heading around like,

please, please, one dollar for so I can have a place to pee or have water. And it's like we people aren't think, just because it's baked into like the congressional DNA of the stock market that profits must be, you know, incoming. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, well, what's going to happen to everybody? Like there needs to be some sort of forethought government wise of where, what are people going to do where are people going to go i don't care if there's a surplus created by technology cool

like if that's if that's what happens like that's cool but there has to be a way for people to thrive still yeah yeah that's the thing is we thought we could figure that part out early on and then we realized these people are getting in the fucking way man yeah people are getting in the way yeah the whole system i mean for for a number of years now for a number of decades now it's been a uh wealth machine for taking money from people who have less money and siphoning it upwards. Like, you can just see the overall model of, like, the wealthy getting wealthier, all other wages stagnating. Like, it's very, very clear.

They're not hiding it. And it'll be interested. Like, something's going to happen. Something's going to give. I don't think people are just going to continue to be like, yeah, man, that guy's bawling. Yeah, I think that's why, too, with everything that's going on, and there's certainly plenty to feel very cynical about, the one thing that I try to find optimism is, if this thing is about to break, then that means there's going to be a new thing. Yeah.

And what is the new thing? And I think the one screeching. Yeah, and some people, and I get why people think, like, it's going to give way to this other terrible reality, and it absolutely could. And it could also be something completely different. It might, it might, it might awaken something in people that allows us to move, move towards something different. Oh, it's going to be bad in the short run. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Could you imagine one day, like, this is how Mike magical.

I'm sure some people are thinking, like, you're like, in 2026, the Dems will take back the house and they'll pay it. And then Donald Trump will realize he needs to lay off. And then he's going to go away. And then I can go back to brunch. and and that's it and the suffering will continue ambiently around me but I will continue

to turn a blind eye to it and say that has no bearing on my life sounds good sounds like a plan so I'm optimistic brunch 2026 that's the plan yes

back to it do you think the Democrats are looking for someone with the last name brunch you know Tyler brunch Tyler brunch has a really good platform

yeah his name would be Tyler I think yeah Tyler brunch vote vote brunt oh my god literally vote for brunch yeah oh god uh all right let's take a quick break we'll be back to talk about halloween we'll be right back oh here we go hey i'm calpin and on my new podcast here we go again we'll take today's trends

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episode do the like trending top top costumes of the year thing it's always been a bit of bullshit where it's like you know they're just finding the ones that are like popping up and in the news so that they can like and then it's a mixture of that with like it'll be like spider oh yeah it's back yeah what spider man fright geist is back but the like truly You know, we have thousands of trigger-treaters come to our house every year for the past six years. We've lived here in a place that, like, has very, like, constant trigger-treaters. And without fail, every year, the most popular costume is the Scream, the Ghost Face Mask. Like, that is it.

And it's, like, I don't know. I was a little bit surprised. Like, I don't know. I knew the Scream movies were popular. But it's like from starting at age four up, people are just wearing scream masks. So I feel like there's just something about that mask that really connects with the national shared consciousness. Like I've always thought that Michael Myers is the scariest, coolest Halloween mask. Yeah.

But screen demolishes Michael Myers in terms of popularity. So I think I got some ideas, I think maybe. Yeah. So, yeah, and on Wikipedia, Wikipedia can confirm since the appearance of Ghost Face and Scream, the costume has become the most worn and sold costume for Halloween in the United States. Douglas, are you a Halloween fan? Do you dress up? I like Halloween. I dressed up as a Bavarian chocolatier this year, and before that, I was a pineapple.

Nothing too scary. I keep it light on Halloween, but nothing is scarier than a three-foot child in a scream costume. him. Or three foot Michael Myers, too. Oh, either or. Three foot Michael Myers is

hilarious. Three foot Michael Myers. I saw that at UCB one time and that was a great show. My Harold team, three foot Michael Myers. Three foot Michael Myers. Yeah.

But no, I mean, there is something, it's, I think it comes back to Van Gogh, the, of it all. It is prime monk.

Yes, it's primordial. It's deep. No. Everyone has felt the scream in their heart. Yeah, that's what I feel like. I feel like it's connecting. Because, so one of the theories of, like, masks is that, like, you know, like, Michael

Myers is the most neutral mask. It's, like, it's expressionless, and I feel like that's what's scary about it, you know, is it's just this, like, blank face that you can both, that both, it's, like, creepy to have something stalking you that, like, never makes an expression. but also you can project whatever onto it. Sure, sure. Like, you can project your own scary feelings. Whereas scream is like the, or the ghost face mask,

is the opposite of that. It is the most expressive facial expression, like, possible. And they just really, like, nailed it with, yeah. I mean, they, so a lot of people point out, like you did, they do seem to be borrowing from the Edward, Monk Scream, which is a famous painting, because from the time it was painted in the late 19th century, I think, it symbolized the existential angst and anxiety that people were facing with the onset of the, was a good, not the technical, the industrial revolution.

Wait till World War I, y'all. Yeah. What's up with World War I? The face seems to be saying, coming from a deep existential horror. and asking the question, what's up with World War I? What's up with World War I, dude? Dang, dude. Influenza?

Fuck. I mean, I don't know if, to me, the reason, I think the scream mask is the least scary of the masks, and that's why it's so, the embrace is so easy. Because you look at it, and it looks kind of like a,

it looks like a decoration. You'd see like when Disney makes Disneyland look all spooky. Like, it's like, and it's one of the ghosts. where it's like, oh, yeah, it's a ghost, and yeah, it's, like, scary, but it's not, like, menacing. And I think a lot of it comes from, like, the film. So, like, it is, like, ironic, too. Like, that's another thing that people have pointed out that it's, like, post, you know,

scream is a very postmodern movie where it's commenting on horror movies and the rules of horror movies. And, like, they have literal characters inside it talking about the rules of horror movies. And so, like, the mask is both, like, can be seen as, like, expressing horror, but it can also, it almost seems, like it's mocking. Yeah, exactly. Sarcastically being like, oh, no, like doing a Kevin from home alone.

Yeah. And in the movie, I think there's even a bunch of jump scares that end up being a, ha, ha, I was missing with you, man. Yeah.

In the movie. And I think that actually helps it be scarier because you don't know when it's going to be the real one. And there's so many parts in the movie where people are like, okay, stop missing around.

Come on, take it off. And then it's like, oh no it's you it's you it's you yeah right oh no it's the guy with the very specific voice changer yeah i mean the like i feel like that michael meyers feels like otherworldly almost and you know his character is otherworldly like he kind of can't be killed and it's just this like force of evil that keeps coming from you for you whereas the screen movies which are like the most that the most successful at the box office of any like slasher horror movies i think the first three ones, at least.

The bad guys are always just like on some Scooby-Doo shit, you know? It's always just like, I've pulled off the mask and revealed that it's, you know, a real person from the movie with a grudge and a complicated backstory doing this because they've, yeah, usually they've been ruined by the world, but I do feel like that is, yeah, there's something very human about both who the killers actually are in the screen movies, but also like the mask is. like kind of very, like embracing human emotion and human horror and, you know, all of that. So there's like, which makes sense, like, that at a time when we've like kind of mostly, I think,

left behind the idea that like there is an otherworldly horror that is going to do us in, like that it's the devil that's going to do it. And now we're just like, people are bad. Yeah. That makes sense that this would be the mask we go with. I think there's like a comfort argument too. Because think about all the shitty fucking rubber masks that we were subjected to in the 80s and 90s prior to scream. And they were like stinky inside of basketball smelling rubber faces.

You're like, I mean, they're still popular now. Yeah. A lot of them were like. I've got one of those in my near future, unfortunately. And like a lot of like the like scary ones were like fucked up and kind of scary. You're like, oh, bro. If I like, if I had that in my room, I just wouldn't want to really look at it, you know. and the scream mask a little more comfortably

where like a black hood and put the mask on and it's I think again it's just the fact that it's less menacing I think appeals to children and because it's not like it's not bloody or anything or has like you know

like it's like a mutant face or whatever it's like silly ghost mask but also the scream like to your point Douglas is because like you know Billy Loomis and whatever the fuck meth the other guy was called in the first movie he was like teenagers fucking around with the mask

It kind of has that like so sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, yeah, Victor's giving it to me too. Sorry for the spoilers, I should have said that. It wasn't Billy Loomis. But like, I think there's like a fun to it that also makes it unpredictable. You know what I mean?

Or like you don't like, so it really is like Mike Myers is like you can kind of project your own intent on it. The scream, the ghost face mask starts from a place that feels a little more innocent. And then from there, it's like it's really up to you how fucked up you want this thing to be. Yeah, and to be killed by something that's making the scared face that you're making is kind of like it's mocking you. You know what I mean?

The origin, this is a quote from a slash film article from, I think this is what, yeah, West Craven or one of the makers behind the films say they were doing a location scout for like one of the places they shot it. They saw this mask. It must have presumably it was around Halloween and we're like, what about this? And then this quote says, no one could agree on a mask. and I remember we were in a location scout and we found Ghostface in a box of stuff

in a garage, weird that you were location scouting and just like muddling through their shit. Wes Craven immediately looked at it and said, this is like the famous screen painting. And so we took that to our production and we said, riff on this,

make something like this. They must have done 20 different designs. Every one of them was rejected by the studio. And finally, we were like, why don't we just get the rights to the mask? and we have a drawing in the dock of what some of the things they did look like. And they look like

fucking garbage pail kids. They look like shit. It's so bad. Yeah. Really not great. Half the brain exposed? Like, no. Yeah. And not as breathable. I mean, to Miles's point, children love a breathable mask. And these would have been a rubber

basketball shithole. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Steam cook your dome wearing a fucking dome. Anyway. Wait, so who's the person who has the right That person must be fucking raking in. Yeah, it was like somebody from a Halloween mask creator who, like, got the, got the rights. Yeah, so Fun World, a company called Fun World that did, like, a series of masks. So the screen mask was meant to, like, kind of be flowy and spooky and, like, go with your standard ghost sheet costume.

And so, like, its eyes were, like, a little bit more, like, wavy. Yeah. Turn that clown outfit, clan outfit into a. ghost outfit with this man. Can we a ghost up this clan outfit? They said. Got all these damn clan outfits. I do. But the origin story, first of all, the house

that they were scouting was apparently a house from a famous Hitchcock movie that I'm not that familiar with. Hitchcock's Shadow of a Doubt. And they found it in a box. Like, this is how it would

exist in a goosebumps tale of a haunted mask that like comes out to like possess people is like they find it in a box in a garage somewhere nobody knows who like designed it and they're just like try and like copy this and its power is just like so undeniable that it can't be altered and that it goes from like that garage box to like movie screens to literally like every other face on Halloween night like if you know we were talking to Douglas who had the host of a podcast called Otherworld on earlier this week and just talking about like the way that these ideas whether they're like from the unconscious or like

these powerful energies can like come out and like if if ghost face is like representing something real or like otherworldly or like unconscious or something like if that's secretly the face of zozo to people who listen to that episode trying to get out it has like so profoundly and thoroughly one and like in a way that is exactly how it would happen in like a goosebumps book yeah yeah absolutely yeah but yeah the somebody got real real lucky uh apparently the tv show tried to like alter it because they didn't have the rights like they're and so mtv made the decision to redesign the mask for the new series and it sucks it's just it's like a neutral mask from like the theater but it with like a blowjob mouth like a mouth made to get

It looks so, it looks like something from like, what's the word I'm looking like, like the time of like courtisans in Italy or something. Like a weird porcelain, it's like not scary. It looks like it looks like bad decor in an old person's house. I can't be scared by like things that have like any horror movie that happens in the past like deep in that period like a different period of history. Like I just can't. It doesn't scare me. Like, there's that, uh, I forget, like one that took place in Venice that I think had Kenneth Brana attached a couple years back that. Oh, gosh.

I was just like, I don't know, man. I don't give a fuck about this. Yeah. I mean, just talking about. Hunting in Venice. Yeah, just, I think just show them trying to go to the bathroom back then. That's horrifying enough. What the fuck is this, dude?

No. It looks like maybe the phantom of the opera would wear this, you know, as he's approaching him in the catacombs or something like that. I say just give Fun World the money. I mean, they nailed it. They fucking eat with that one. They nailed it. They channeled something deep and dark about humanity, maybe by copying one of the most famous paintings of the past 300 years.

The original emo king, Vincent Van Gogh. The original emo king, the scream painting. Wow. This is so, people are so into the original mask. Like, apparently Fun World started altering it a little bit, that there were, like, changed, We're like, bring back the first generation mask. And people are saying the original molds are gone.

But I'm sure you can make another one because. Oh, so the original, you can't even find the OG? I think if you look for like there, no, there are plenty. I think there, I think this is for people who are so in, like there have been different iterations. The one we see right now is obviously readily available, but I think there's a different one that people are like, no. I want this. The Gen 1. is what I keep seeing on the internet.

Bring back to Gen 1 mask. Jesus. Wow, the Schneider cut of masks. There's apparently a couple scenes. I think in the first scream, where it was pre them negotiating the rights to get the original mask. And so you can see that the mask is like a little bit altered.

It was like the version that they were going to go with if they couldn't get the rights. Oh, dude, the Gen 1. Okay, Gen 1 is different than the one we see in the movie. This is Gen 1. Oh. With, like, sort of more triangular-ish eyes. Yeah, that one sucks shit.

Looks too happy. Yeah. That one looks like if, like, I was hanging out of Michael Jackson, I did too many mushrooms. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the original, the one that showed up in the movie is fucking great.

And that's the one that I ride for, and that's the one that it seems like everybody is obsessed with. The Lecrucette of Halloween masks. You only need one. Exactly. habit your whole life, you're scary, your whole life. It's seasoned, you know. This mask has been seeping microplastics into the faces of this family for three generations now. And it's now your turn.

And now we're all a little quirky. I think the first year that we did Halloween here and like we saw so many scream masks, I was like, oh yeah, I think there's like a scream reboot coming. Wow, that's really like, must be popular with people. And it's only grown since then. Like, it's just like more and more. And now there's like a lot of them you can like press a little. button and it like sprays blood onto the mask.

Oh, yeah. Those on it, that's, that's too much dip on your chip, man. Yeah. Just keep it simple. It's simple. Too much dip on your chip. I like that saying. Douglas, what a pleasure having you on the podcast.

Where can people find you, follow you, uh, all that good stuff? Uh, it's been a blast. Um, you can find me at Douglas Wideck on Instagram at Douglas Wideck on threads. YouTube. It's just my name on all the places. and I've got some shows coming up. I don't know if that was the next thing

you were going to ask if I was allowed to say. No, that's great. I'm producing... Plug away. All right, here's my plug. I've got three performances of Looking for Laughs, which is a UK-based comedy show

that I'm producing the U.S. version of. It caveat. January 30th is the next one, and we take a live blind date, and then we do comedy inspired by the live blind date. So that is a fun thing. producing right now. Wow. How do the people do on the live blind date? Are they pretty nervous or we just had one and they're going on second third date? They're still texting and we take like a lot

of like pains to make sure the matches seem like they make sense. But yeah, I mean, it's totally crazy and awkward. They pull off like eye masks and they're like, hi, nice to meet you on stage in front of 100 people. Wow. Yeah. That's fun. It's a good time. Wonderful. Is there work in media that you've been enjoying. Oh, in media right now. Um, I, I mean, I had the, I had the chair company down for that, uh, but a work, oh, like, um, you could do a tweet. You could do whatever you want. Oh, man. Jeez. I, I had, uh, I had the chair company down for that. Let me think. That's great. Chair company. We can, we can plug the chair company again. Okay. Yeah. That's, that's my work of media that I've been enjoying. I mean, I listened to a lot of podcasts. So I know that that wasn't under the,

under the umbrella of that. Podcast count. Oh, okay. Jesus, please, of course they do. What are we doing right now, if it doesn't count? I love some pivot.

I love some pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Calloway. There you go. All right. Miles, where can people find you is there a work of media? You've been enjoying.

Find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. You find me talking about 90-day fiancé on 4.20-day fiancé. And pretty soon you might hear me talking about soccer coming up soon. That's something. That's something in the lab I've been kind of talking about. But stay tuned for that.

What else? What else? Is there a work of media that I've been enjoying? No, it's just, oh, you know what I watched the Night of the Demon? Oh. You know that one from the 80s? I've never seen it. Night of the Demons from 1988.

It's like there's multiple demons? Yeah, dude. It's the most just like 80s ass fucking like movie where like women just inexplicably or topless suddenly because it's like one of those 80s. 80s movies like there's one or like a woman's like okay like bye like getting off the phone and then just takes her shirt off and then they got to the next scene and her majesty and I were watches were like this is so fucking stupid but this is like we were saying these kinds of movies are sort of like the hallmark holiday films for Halloween are these like mindless 80s

B slasher movies that's when I saw sleepaway camp last year was just kind of fucking around you don't need to pay attention really because every now they're like what the fuck's going on And why is she, where did her underwear go? What is this? But anyway, I saw Knight of the team. It's just so stupid if you want to see something like that. Check that up. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien,

and blue sky at Jack O'B, the number one. I liked a tweet from Hey, Droh Flask, who tweeted, one thing nobody gives pigeons enough credit for is their ability to get out of the way in the sidewalk. A lot of you could learn a thing or two from them. And then a New Yorker cartoon from Asher Pearlman is just two people walking out the door of an apartment and someone's putting a book into their carrying bag and says, I better bring my book

just in case I want to spend all day carrying my book. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zekegeist, also on Blue Sky at Daily Zekeist. We're at The Daily Zekeyesd on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom, you will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode.

We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, is there a song that you think that people might enjoy? Uh, yeah, we were just, it's funny, you were talking about dub, uh, one of my favorite subgenres of, you know, red game music. But, uh, I was just listening to, uh, Pachiman, who is like one of these modern artists who's records on, on tape is, using all the same instruments, amps, because he wants his music to sound like you picked up some old, like, dub 45 record from like the 70s or something. And this is a track of his

from his album called In Dub called Jumpy. Uh, you know, it's a little jumpy time. A little, that's not scary, but this song is very vibe. So check it out. Jumpy by Pachiman, A-C-H-H-M-A-N. All right. We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zikeyes is a production of I-Hart Radio for more podcasts from I-Hart Radio. Visit the I-Hart Radio app. a couple podcasts wherever you're listening to your favorite shows okay that's going to do it for us this morning back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and we will talk to you all then bye bye the daily zeit guys is executive produced by katherine long co-produced by bay way co-produced by victor wright co-written by jm mcnap edited and engineered by justin connor

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