The Daily Zeitgeist - Why Trump Hates Amazon, Sex Crim: The Game 3.28.18

Episode Date: March 28, 2018

In episode 114, Jack & Miles are joined by legendary podcast guest Jamie Loftus to discuss a child decapitated at a water park in Kansas City, Trump hating on Amazon but not Facebook, whether or not the Stormy Daniels story will hurt Trump's presidency, plus a look at a FiveThirtyEight five question scandal test, Kim Jong Un's meeting with China's president, a new pick-up artist video game, & more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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a.k.a. I'm the daddy of the Jack Daddy. Hot stepper. That's courtesy of JPP. Got finger banged. Struggling with that one. No, I nailed it. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always,

by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Are you Johnny Gray? Are you Slim Gray? Are you Paid Gray? Who wants to know? Who wants to know about Miles?

Thank you to Walter Chestnut II on Twitter because that was Are You Jimmy Ray? Gray's song from exactly 20 years ago. So that struck my heart.

Also, shout out to the person who I did the Orinoco flow thing, who got salty on Instagram being like, who are you going to shout me out? Well, I am now, and I didn't even know your name, but now that's you, so take that to your pillow. They will definitely appreciate that. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the legendary podcast guest and hilarious comedian

Miss Jamie Loftus aka J-Loaf. J-Loaf? Yeah. Oh, that one hurts. That's no good, eh? Space Jam. I get J-Loaf. There's a point in every... I love Space Jam. There's a point in every friendship I've had where someone thinks that

they realize that my name abbreviates to J-Lo. And they think that they're the first one who's ever, they go, oh my gosh, you're not going to believe this. I've been hearing this since I was 10 years old. They take you aside. But you have not heard J-Lo? I have not heard J-Lo.

Let's make J-Lo happen. Let's make that the new thing. I love a loaf. Hey, who doesn't? A.K.A. Kenny Loftus. Right. Like Kenny Lofton. That's more of an esoteric baseball.

You know, it missed me, but I did laugh anyways. You're on board. Jamie, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Oh, I went into a hole the other day. I went to the Korean spa, to Wii Spa. Yes. And I was there, and I was having fun until I got very tired.

And then I started being like, what if I got a UTI sitting in the saunas here? And so I looked up We Spa UTI, and then I thought about the last place I got a UTI, which was Splash Mountain. Then I looked up Splash Mountain UTI to see what's good in the Splash Mountain UTI community. More than you'd think.

Really? Wait, from riding the log thing? Yeah, not Splash Mountain specifically, but like log flume UTIs run rampant. Wow. Log flume UTIs. It's a category of transmission. I mean, it's just a dirty, and if you're not ready and you plant in the wrong spot, you get a log flume UTI. Log flume UTIs, huh?

Yeah. I can't wait to start my new podcast, Log Flume UTI. Jamie Log Flume UTI. Jamie Log Flume UTI. And then I'm desperately trying to be relevant enough to the world to get on Wiki feeds, and I'm not anywhere close. But every once in a while, I'll Google Jamie Loptis feet just to see if I'm desperately trying to be relevant enough to the world to get on wiki feeds that I'm not anywhere close. But every once in a while, I'll Google Jamie Loptis feet just to see if I'm getting there. What do we have to do? Is this something we can artificially create a wave of interaction?

Just a lot of foot content? I don't know. I think we can do it with our picture today at the end of today's episode, right? Wow. I mean, I feel like, and this if you any I mean I feel like I think and this is a good thing I feel like a lot of foot Frank's listen design oh yeah they're out there I would say a solid 50% of the I know we love the feet we are sex positive especially weird sex positive I'm trying to integrate myself

into the foot freak community and they're just not ready. Oh, but you can upload on Wikifeet, right? Yeah, but I don't want that. Oh, you want it organically. I want someone else to... That's really sad if I create my own Wikifeet page.

Yeah, you're with somebody like, oh shit, I guess I'm on Wikifeet and then you look and you're like, uploaded by Jamie Logs. You could have used a fake name. Jamie Logs uploaded all these pictures to WikiFeed. From every birthday. Weird. I'm always searching for a new low.

So there's something good. So Korean Spa is an interesting thing I didn't know about my whole life until a couple years ago. But, yeah, that's the thing. Did you spend the night there at the Korean spa? We spent the whole night there yeah I had a sad cousin in town and I was like what do you do with a sad cousin tell you what you do you throw her into that room in the Korean spa full of like hot looking cocoa puffs you just you know leave her there and then you come back and her heartbreak's cured. When you say a cocoa Puffs room, what are they? It's actually called the Clay Sauna, and it's like a room. Little pieces of clay?

Little circles, little balls of clay. Little balls of clay. And you just sit in them, and they're really hot, little Cocoa Puff-looking things. Yeah. Yeah. Jamie, what's something that's underrated? Underrated SpongeBob the Musical on Broadway. Saw it a couple weeks ago.

By yourself, right? All right, Miles. Come on. No, I think you wrote about it, but you made it like when your write-up was about going by yourself, was it not? I did go by myself. That's all. I'm not shaming you.

I will say that was not the focus of the article by any means. It was more of just, wow, I really enjoyed the show. I guess the way when I started reading it, I was like, wait, I think you're making, anyway, you went. It was definitely the focus of the article when Miles read it aloud to our office. Whoa, check it out. Jamie went, oh, whoa. Boo. Let me just lead with a big boo.

It was great. I went. I did go alone. Balcony, you couldn't be further away than i was from spot did you have like opera glasses to look from upon the balcony it's fully crazy i'd just been on the road for 12 days and i had a series of tote bags shown up at a broadway show alone and just and just weeping so moved was i i looked really when you pulled up you pulled up cone luggage i pulled up with three tote bags.

Were they like, yo, what the fuck? 15 minutes late. Did they check your shit? Were they like, yo, what's coming with these bags? No, because I arrived distraught. I was like, I'm late to SpongeBob the Musical. They're like, get in there. I would be worried.

Someone with three tote bags crying during the SpongeBob the Musical. I'd be like, oh, fuck. I don't know. They waved me in. And there weren't a lot of people there. I feel like it's not getting the clout it deserves. SpongeBob the Musical, it's great. I literally did burst into tears during the Squidward tap number.

It was so good. What just happened? I don't know. Somebody, you said tap number, and somebody, like, started tap dancing on the walls. The Squidward tap number also the guy who plays squidward is like hot it's like confusing do they wear costumes like to look like the characters or spongebob just some dude in like overalls that's exactly who it is oh shit but here's the catch he's some buff dude in overalls that's strange spongebob is jacked because he

climbs up and down the set yeah he's a little beefcake Bob Sponge beef cake pants Did you grow up on SpongeBob? Do you have like kind of a deep personal connection To SpongeBob? Yeah I remember the first time I saw a SpongeBob episode which must have been Within a week of it coming out and being like

This is the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life And it's still one of the funniest shows in the entire world. Like, it's just, it's so good. I never got into it. Oh, man. I think because at the time,

I think I was like 16 or something when the show came out. Oh, okay. That's a great reason not to get into it. I don't know. You should have really

gotten into it. No, but I know people who really know about Sponge at the time, and I just, I don't know. There are certain things I miss.

I miss that wave. I miss the Harry Potter wave. I don't like Harry Potter. Great. So then I'm normal. Harry Potter is actually for losers. Oh, hot take. Wow. At hamburger... Oh, actually never mind. I mean, maybe that's my over... I had a different overrated, but Harry Potter

is straight trash and I don't have respect for people who base their identity around it. Whoa, wow. That take, it registered hot. Certified hot. Ever since I've been off Twitter, I've just been saying whenever I want, and no one ever yells at me.

It's very exciting. Unhinged, yeah, yeah. I just feel like my blood pressure is extremely high, but I'm just like, you know what? People who like Harry Potter are losers. Harry Potter is a boring. Why do you feel like my blood pressure is extremely high. But I'm just like, you know what? People who like Harry Potter are losers. Harry Potter is a boring. Why do you feel like that? Well, again, it's like a very childhood-based frustration where I was very into the series of Unfortunate Events books.

Still am. Have the tattoo. Very embarrassing. And I would be outraged because no one would ever want to talk to me about it. Everyone would be like, what about the little boy who uses magic to fix a problem? And I was like, I hate that. I hate that. I just, I don't like characters that are like, but I can just use magic to fix everything.

I was like, well, that's not how the real life world works. The entire book is a deus ex machina event. Yeah. real life world works. The entire book is a deus ex machina event. Yeah, and in the other book series in the Lemony Snicket books, these kids are building boats. They're like sneaking into secret societies.

They're jumping into the trunks of their enemies. I'm like, wait, wait. The way the rest of us solve problems. Like real people. Yeah, who didn't build a boat when they were seven? I built a grappling hook to escape a building and save my baby sister from a cage. Much more relatable for me.

Exactly. So I don't fuck with Harry Potter. Never have. Did go to the area in Universal and felt very conflicted because there was a really fun ride. Oh, really? The Wizarding World of Harry Potter. The Wizarding World of Harry Potter. Which one?

Was it the one where you get on the 3D ride? Yeah. That ride is really good. That is really fun. And I don't know anything about the movies, and I was like, I don't know anything on the 3D ride? Yeah. That ride is really good. That was really fun. And I don't know anything about the movies, and I was like, I don't know anything about the movies, but that was a cool ride. It was a cool ride. I just wouldn't, but I was a real bee about, I was just like, I won't be photographed in Harry Potter. Oh, wow.

I have a reputation of hope. I have a fucking brand to think about. But I like that you're open enough that you were willing to admit that, yeah, this is kind of fun. You know? I think that's the way to be, to be sort of an agnostic, not go in and be like, well, I hate everything related

to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, so fuck this. I'm not going to enjoy it. It's good if you can be surprised by something. I don't have the energy to hate things anymore. I feel like that is what this administration has done to me. I just don't have enough energy to hate things.. I feel like that is what this administration has done to me. I just don't have enough energy to hate things.

It's too exhausting. Yeah. But do I like Harry Potter? No, get out of my face. Don't at me. You can't. Right. Oh, yeah.

What's going on with that? Still off Twitter? Still off Twitter? Well, so I attempted to crowdsource people who had contacts at Twitter, tried like five or six times to talk to people at Twitter and no one could help. Everyone would always reach a certain point and then they're like, we're not going to get on the phone with you. We're not.

We can't do anything. Now I'm getting in trouble at work because they're like, where's your Twitter at? Why isn't it coming back? And I was like, I don't know. So now the place I work for is on trying to contact them so now I've outsourced the job wow I know it's it's leveled up I don't think it's ever gonna I don't know at this point I just feel nothing I don't know I miss it so much and I have all these thoughts that enter my head and then they just leave and that is how the world worked for the majority of

the world yeah for most of history i don't like it like where are all my dumb things in one place my evernote has become a very scary place oh wow so then maybe that's just how you have to start doing is doing screen grabs of your evernotes on instagram as a twitter so sad as the last user of evernote i'm pretty sure i don't even know what evernote is is that the one with the elephant on the logo, right? Yeah. It's just the Notes app, but I pay for it. I don't know why.

But it's, yeah, I've got a lot of vacant thoughts that I wrote in the Cocoa Puffs room. Well, maybe somebody out there who listens to the show knows somebody at Twitter. Hamburger phone is still locked up. Zite Gang, I'm suffering. I am suffering. The Notes app is probably my most used app.

Oh, yeah. Just randomly. Do you use the Notes app? I love the Notes app. Especially once it started syncing from your laptop to your phone. Right, it's dope. Every note can do that.

Oh, great. Well, then maybe I'll pay for that. Every note can do that. Maybe I will start spending money on it. I guess I will pay for that then. So does the same thing as my free thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it's'll pay for that. Maybe I will start spending money on it. I guess I will pay for that then. So does the same thing as my free thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

But I like the elephant logo. But it's got an elephant and it does take a while to load and it doesn't sink very well. Well, I'm signing up right now. Okay, perfect. Jamie, what is a myth? What's something that people think is true that you know to be false? So something that I've done twice, well, three times in the past month, I'd like to bust the myth that getting in cars with strangers is a bad idea.

Okay. I've done that three times. Listen up, kids. Hey, for the youth, for the youth side gang out there, get in the stranger's car. It's going to be fine. And in fact, you're going to make a friend. And you guys will message on Instagram sometime. And they'll be like, I'm so glad I got into that car in that parking lot in Indiana. Sometimes they do have candy, kids.

Sometimes they have Dunkin' Donuts. And they're like, my boyfriend is nice. And he'll give you a ride into town. And they're not lying. And you meet the boyfriend. And he's like, do you want a donut? You're like, I'm fine. OK, this is too

destructive what happened okay so i was doing some shows in indiana at the beginning of the month and then oh i have yeah okay okay so the first one is in indiana i was taking a scary shuttle from the airport to fort wayne indiana and then i met this girl on the shuttle this shuttle fits like three people. And so we were like kind of getting along. She asked about my Unabomber sweatshirt. I was like, oh, it's my Unabomber sweatshirt. She's like, I like it. That you wore to court. That I wore to court.

I saw that. It's troubling. Great court apparel, by the way. I accidentally wore a Unabomber sweatshirt in a government building. They had a lot of questions. Is it the drawing of the Unabomber with the mustache and the aviators like the jerry curl one of my favorite images okay so you're on the unabomber bus and you're talking to this woman this woman yeah and and i was like oh we kind of like vibed it was nice uh but it was a very scary shuttle and then we got off and she

i was about to call an uber to like the venue i was going She's like, just get in my boyfriend's car. Quote. Just get in my boyfriend's car. She's like, I'm not, but you should. And I was like, okay. Something you had preloaded. Just get in my boyfriend's car. I'd had a long day, and I was like, I mean, yeah. Had her boyfriend just appeared at that moment? Her boyfriend was picking her up from the shuttle.

And then he's like, let us just bring you into town. And then she popped up on Instagram later being like, wow, I didn't realize that I could find you on the internet. So she did find me afterwards and then purchased the same sweatshirt. So now we have matching Unabomber sweatshirts. And I have a friend. And then also I got into my, I sort of developed this codependent bond

with my Airbnb host while I was in the- I saw that on Instagram, yeah. That was a little scary until it became the sweetest story ever told where my Airbnb host, shout out Tim in Indianapolis, you gotta stay in Tim's duplex, but maybe not. So I stayed with him and then he was like, my mom just had a stroke.

And all of a sudden, it was like I became his emotional support animal for a couple days. Tim and I, we drank a lot of wine. We really got into it. So he was there while you were staying at his place? Yeah, I was in the adjacent apartment that he also owned. Oh, got it, got it, got it. But he was like, well, I was in like the adjacent apartment that he also owned. But like he knew, he was like

well you're not like doing anything right? So you're my friend. So you're my friend now. We're gonna get fish tacos and get fucked up at the fish taco place which we did. And then he drove me to the mall. And I thought that was nice. The mall downtown? Downtown Indianapolis?

Downtown Indianapolis. With the skywalk? Yeah! Nice mall. I used to live down there. Love a mall. Everybody loves it. But I think that's also so interesting that you have, I don't know, just the way that people make friends now that it's just like, oh, the person who rented my Airbnb was there for me.

It was great. Shout out Tim. Hope his mom's doing well. Yeah, seriously. What a great. Shout out Tim. Hope his mom's doing well. What a great night of fish tacos. It was wonderful following that saga on Instagram. Your stories were just getting crazier. I was like, uh-oh.

I went back to those stories. I was like, oh, there's classical music blasting. And then there was at one point where he was like, do you want to see the buildings I'm renovating? I was like, are we drunk driving? To empty properties you own? There was a million opportunities to get killed.

And didn't you guys watch a movie together too? We watched the news together. We did a lot of stuff together. Great friend. You're a great friend, Jamie. You know, if by that you mean I have no regard for my own physical safety and I'm

ready to die at any moment, I'm an amazing friend coming in clutch. I can't wait for that one woman to just be outside when you get out of here and be like, hey, you said to come visit LA. Oh, right, with a Unabomber such as mine? I miss you.

Speaking of children's safety, we wanted to open with a new segment that Miles is developing. What's it called, Miles? It's called Kid Decapitated at a Waterpark Watch. Why? You know, so- This happens. This is actually a really terrible story. So getting a UTI at Splash Mountain is actually only the second worst thing that can happen to you.

Sorry to make jokes about this. This kid, I think two years ago, was riding this water slide called Verrückt at the Schlitterbahn water park in Kansas City. Now this thing, the Verrückt apparently translates

to insane or mad in German because the thing was so fucking intense and i remember it was like on like some tlc show or like whatever educational reality shows like building impossible water slides or whatever and like they show when they're first testing it it's like this thing that does a huge drop and then it hits a second hill and then another drop right which water slides usually only go down. Right. They usually don't pop back up. This is meant to give you a little bit of rush. And it's like one of those things where people get in, like three people get in a raft and go down.

Right. So in the initial test ones, the angle of the hill when you come down off the initial descent. Right. The angle was too sharp that it was launching rafts off the slide. Right. No. So in the show, they're like, oh, shit, we got to change this angle. Right.

And they're like, it's a six-week job. And then you see the guy being like, you guys got two weeks. Right. And they're like, because reality show logic. Right. It's like clockman is threat. And so you got to get them doing it. Right.

And then but sadly, they didn't properly. Clearly, there were a lot of things being worked out because in August of 2016, this kid rode the ride and the raft was launched and he was decapitated and like two other women that were in the raft they went airborne and collided with like the sort of like protective net uh framing that keeps the rafts in and the kid was tragically killed now the people who designed the ride have now been charged with like reckless second degree murder yeah aggravated battery and aggravated endangering a child and the crazy thing is like

there were people getting injured before this kid got on the ride and they were keeping it all hush hush and trying to be like oh man this happened to this kid it was the first time and after they did their investigation no it wasn't because this shit was a fucking death trap that's final destination

bones were being broken. Yeah. I mean, this is one of those things. First of all, Schlitterbahn is something that I had heard about from Howard Kramer on Who Charted talking about how great this is in the Austin area. But apparently they pushed it too far in this case. But I feel like this is one of those design flaws with the very fabric of capitalism

where you've got the sort of carnival barker personality who creates a water park and makes it nationally famous. That's the best guy to have in charge of your water park in terms of letting people know about it. But it's also the exact wrong person

to have in charge of letting people know about it. Right. But it's also the exact wrong person to have in charge of like designing safe rides for people. Right, right, right. And so that's where regulations come in handy. Like that's the thing that it's the least sexy, least cool thing to like talk about and get excited about regulations. But like we're seeing it over and over again, like regulations getting, you know, killed by this administration and people who are pro deregulation getting put in charge of all sorts of industries. And like you really need regulations in place because capitalism is an awesome thing at certain things.

But it's not necessarily good at like looking out for consumer safety. It's good at looking out for anyone's safety. I think we've got to make we've got to make getting cars with strangers sexy again. We've got to make regulation sexy again. I'm on the marketing team for this. I'm ready to make people horny for regulation. Oh, I love it. I mean, yeah, because when they talk about this ride,

they say it violated nearly all aspects of longstanding industry safety standards and that, in fact fact the design and operation of the Verruckt complied with few if any of the industry safety standards. That's like some Titanic shit. Right, exactly. I mean, yes, again, I don't mean to be flippant about this child's death, but

it's just crazy because it's so fucking horrific. And so preventable. Yeah, right. And it's crazy because it was like a thing on a reality show that they were even like, hey man, we need six weeks to do it. yeah right and like yeah and it's crazy because it was like a thing on a reality show that they were even like hey man we need six weeks to do the guys like do it in two right and they're like yeah he was they say that like a lot of the really poor decisions he made were in favor of getting this thing promoted on a reality show so right cool yeah so we'll be back to this beat tomorrow

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Act two. So the top story on Drudge right now is actually an interesting one, I think. I think there's sort of this known thing behind the scenes of the Trump presidency that he hates Amazon and is like all about, you know, regulating Amazon, but doesn't give a shit about Facebook, which, you know, is not the direction that the news is trending or should be sending us. But it makes sense, I guess, when you think about the fact that, you know, Jeff Bezos, the owner of Amazon, is also, they own the Washington Post. So the Washington Post broke the Access Hollywood tape, have been very critical of him. So Trump views them as like the enemy.

And also Amazon threatens kind of older school businesses, like, you know, brick and mortar businesses and stores and, you know, brick and mortar stores are making people in real estate rich, which is all his friends. So obviously his friends are going to be, you know, more threatened by Amazon. Facebook mostly threatens like media institutions, which what does he hate more than media institutions? Right. Right.

And private people's privacy, which, you know, he doesn't give a shit about that. He's never been a normal average person in his entire life. It's funny to see him on sort of technically right side of the argument, but for the wrong reasons. Right. Like it's a total accident. Yeah, because it's only that rich guys are like, dude, I'm getting killed by Amazon.

Right. And he's like, hmm, might be a monopoly or whatever. But really, there was an article in the New Republic that talks about how private equity firms and stuff, they're the real reasons why retail is going down the tubes as well. Like they have a role in sort of gouging this industry. But I'm sure those are probably the same people who are telling him they're losing money, but they're also kind of the same reason. Like if Trump's thinking like brick and mortar stores are vanishing, that also has a lot to do with the people on Wall Street that he's talking to as well. Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah. I hope that there is some kind of regulation, even if he somehow falls backwards into it.

Yeah. I think both behemoths probably need to be regulated, as does Google. Horny for regulation. Horny for regulation. We're frothing over here. We're horny for regulation. I was interested that he is ambivalent towards Facebook because I would think that Trump and like probably his sons would be real like Winklevoss heads, you know? Right.

I think they'd be like Team Winky and they'd be like, oh, you know, zuck zucks. We love the Winklevosses and their little bitcoins. And I love I love the Winklevosses. They're my favorite force of evil. Are they? Yeah, they're my favorite because I'm so terrified of twins. I have a lifelong fear of twins. Really?

Yeah. Twins that are adults and still wearing similar, you're just like, who and how? Adult twins are very scary to me. And the Winklevosses, they've got the same weird teeth. They're addicted to Bitcoin. They're addicted to each other. I feel like they swap girl. I feel like it's just a very strange sinister thing. I feel like they live in the woods. I have all these theories about the Winklevosses.

I feel like they live in the woods. That last detail is just so strange. Have you been working on an epic script about the Winklevosses? I feel like maybe they live in the woods and are planning something. Do you have a script we can read?

Okay, here's my pitch for the Winklevosses because I have been thinking about it for a couple years. Okay, I think that there is a third Winklevoss named Trip Winklevoss who swaps in for them and he's like, Trip Winklevoss is like

chaotic evil, cannot read, can't. Like he's, Trip Winklevoss is a total wild card and sometimes he'll just switch out for one of the other two and just cause havoc while the other one hides in the woods. He's so puckish. So yeah, you would think that they're twins, but they're actually triplets and Trip is the chaos factor. I love that. Well, let's look into that theory a little bit. Okay. That's fascinating. All right. We also wanted to take a look at the Stormy Daniels thing because I've had this feeling for a little while that the Stormy Daniels story is being over covered by the media, by the mainstream media, and that it's sort of a scandal that is

going to end up playing to Trump's strengths. You know, his supporters feel like he is being unjustly attacked by the lib media. And so I feel like this only helps him. And FiveThirtyEight actually wrote an article or sort of did one of their chats that kind of put this into focus for me. They have these five questions that they ask about any scandal that determines whether the scandal will actually be harmful to the politician or to whoever it's happening to. Uh, so the first one is, uh, can the scandal be reduced to a one sentence soundbite, which yes, uh, but not easily refuted, denied with a one sentence soundbite, which it kind of can be refuted, denied with a one sentence soundbite. Well, in this era, cause you can just go fake news or she's lying. Exactly.

He's made it so he can just refute anything with one sentence. Right. Uh, does the scandal cut against a core element of the candidate's brand and it's like clearly no this actually plays to everything that people is his have ever claimed about him uh the third question is does the scandal reify reinforce prove a core negative perception about the candidate which it does But then the question goes on to say, particularly one that had henceforth been difficult to articulate, which absolutely not. We've known this about him forever.

Does this reveal something complicated and new about this? Right, yeah. Yeah. Like, not at all. He articulated that for us on the Access Hollywood tape. Can the scandal readily be employed by the opposition without their looking hypocritical, petty, politically incorrect, risking retribution or giving life to a damaging narrative, which I feel like not really. It feels like a thing where, you know,

the Democrats have the Clinton scandal in their background, which in retrospect is looking worse and worse and worse, like the whole Lewinsky scandal and like the way that it was treated at the time by people who were pro Clinton, like has just looked worse and worse in retrospect recently. And so like now having another one of these where we're trying to, you know, put it on the sitting president is just like, I don't know, it raises all sorts of issues that I don't necessarily think aid critics of the president. And then the last one is,

is the media bored and or does the story have enough tabloid shock value to crowd out all other stories? And the media is never bored in this era. They couldn't be less bored. And it definitely has a lot of tabloid slash shock value, but I don't think that necessarily plays to the media's strength at all. No. I mean, I think the reason it feels like it's getting old too is like we learn more and more about other ways that the president is failing.

Right. learn more and more about other ways that the president is failing right so this really is the least of our concerns because this doesn't necessarily relate to my safety as a citizen or my well-being like this scandal specifically about him having an affair 12 years ago and then like the subsequent payments it says a lot about his character for sure right but again we already knew these things that's nothing new yeah and so then yeah there are much other things i would love to see the media be a little more aggressive with uh about trump and how this presidency is working out but yeah again i think they definitely fallen into the trap of and and even us here because every day there's something new going out and i think we'd like to talk about it to be petty because i love watching michael avenatti stormy daniels lawyer right like just fucking rip people's fucking heads off on cnn

uh but yeah again is this like the gravest concern probably not but we live in an age where everything is so fucked up that you know which one do we want to talk about today michael cohen i think points out like he's one of their editors he says says they've been very smart, like, the Stormy Daniels camp has been very smart about teasing developments and prolonging attention. But that's, yeah, like, they're doing well for her and for their own careers and their aims. But I just don't necessarily think from the standpoint of, like, what is going to make the public focus on what is dangerous about this administration. I don't think focusing on this scandal necessarily will. I think there are definitely some things like did it violate campaign finance laws?

And if they can find the person who came up and threatened her and her daughter, media outlets should definitely pursue those two stories. But otherwise, I think just let Mueller use it however he wants to and let's move on. age where we have to be like okay well we should be prioritizing the news of like what is actually affecting people's safety because there are so many stories where people's direct safety are being threatened and i mean i love a juicy story i love hot goss yes yeah that's what drama and i'm a petty bitch forever however it's yeah at this point it's like, you know, great for Stormy Daniels and like however she's able to like cap. I'm all for like capitalizing on losers who have done damaging, horrible things. But in terms of like, is this going to be the thing that brings him down?

Of course not. So like, let's just move on because there's a million other things that are much worse. You know, like more transgender bans in the military or like revoking protected status for Liberians or the many other fucking things that have happened this week. And that's off the top of your head. Yeah. That just means it's saying shit. Seriously. But again, it does really speak to this sort of like media diet that we're on.

They're like, oh shit, here comes juicy shit. Yeah. Because I don't like policy. Policy is boring or it bums me out. Whereas this is more like. That's like an eternal thing too. That's why everyone loves hot goss. Right.

They just need a fucking news network that is just all the petty shit for the stuff that is still adjacent to Trump. Air that shit out on CNN too. It's the same thing when everyone found out that Trump likes pee-pee. Everyone's like, Trump likes pee-pee. Yeah, do that on that other channel.

That was like months. The news, top story, Trump still likes pee pee everyone's like trump likes pee yeah that was like months everyone's in the news top story trump still likes pee pee and everyone's like tee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee like is it pee pee i get it but it's like i don't know i i've been trying to actively try to find my petty shit outside of uh politics right because there's so much of it we're surrounded by it uh you can find your petty shit elsewhere. You don't have to find it in dangerous politicians. There you go. Speaking of which,

so there's still this conversation with Kim Jong-un in the offing, which is looming as just a terrifying thing because we're going to have John Bolton, the most hawkish human being like ever in the history of politics, uh, as the national security advisor. And there's

this conversation coming up with a nuclear power. And so recently there was a surprise visit by Kim to China in a giant bulletproof wine-laden train. That was his dad's. That was his dad's. Can't even pull up in your own train. Right. Still using your dad's train. Debasing. We've all been there, though.

Right. Pulling up in your dad's armored train for high-level meetings with the president of China. So this is his first time going to China, right? Yeah. First time. I think the first time going out of the country since he took over power. So maybe it's like a security blanket taking daddy's train. Right.

Right. Right. Right. Because it's apparently like it's armored like you wouldn't even believe. Like it's basically like a fucking bomb shelter on rails. But like. My dad's train is a fucking bomb shelter on rails. But like my dad's train is Ford Focus. So, yeah, he went and met with President Xi Jinping of China.

And it's interesting because clearly China has basically taken the front seat with these talks with North Korea, which basically kind of undercuts John Bolton's war boner, which basically kind of undercuts John Bolton's war boner, because now China is sort of setting the pace over what the terms that Kim might be saying are his terms for denuclearization. Because clearly China has so much influence over North Korea. Like if they wanted to, Cardi B, they really could get North Korea to sort of fall in line. But again, it's good to have this sort of unpredictable country to sort of fuck with the U.S. with. That being said, clearly, like, they made progress because Kim, like, outwardly, publicly said

that he is committed to the process of denuclearization and getting these talks going. He said that after the China meeting? Yeah, like, this meeting basically said, he's like, okay, let's talk about denuclearization. Okay. But, like, now I'm going to meet with President Moon of South Korea, and the South Koreans like it, although everyone is kind of a little bit like what were they really talking

about because clearly they could be strategizing on how to do this because i think china would love for america to close a lot of bases in south korea because they don't want that like the thad missile defense units because apparently the radar is super powerful and they're saying it can observe some of their stations in china like it can go across the border or whatever. What are the THAAD missiles? The Theater High Altitude Area Defense. And it's just an anti-missile battery, you know what I mean, that will just sort of shoot missiles down when they're launched.

And yeah, the Chinese really don't like that. So again, we don't know what will happen. However, it's good to hear that Kim Jong-un does say that he is open to figuring out this conundrum of the nuclearized peninsula. But the other thing is that clearly I'm sure that the Chinese are like, look, if you're going to come and say that, like, I'm sure there was some kind of tit for tat thing. And they were going to give some kind of aid to North Korea or, you know, whether that's like helping them with getting the oil supply flowing back to North Korea to help their economy. Like, we don't know, because either way, like China helping North Korea would be a huge fuck you to trump uh like given the tariffs that uh he imposed right but if they just cut america out of the conversation that's not good for us right no that's i mean that's definitely

not what trump or you know the secretary like pompeo or i'm sure john bolton wants because i'm sure they're very specific on what their conditions are for this denuclearization to occur. But right now it seems like, well, first he's going to go speak with South Korea and then maybe Trump because that's still not totally set yet. But we shall see. But it's definitely clearly showing that China bossed up and they're like, you're going to come and kiss the fucking ring. And he did. So we will see.

So what do you think the food situation is in the train? Oh, my God. Do you think there's good food? There's a chef on the train, maybe? I hope so. Does he live on the train? Does he live on the train? Does he live on the train?

When was the last time he was allowed to leave the train? The guy hasn't left the train in nine years, apparently. But I guess if you saw the video of him, Kim Jong-un looked a little out of his comfort zone. He did look uncomfortable. Because they had a grand reception for him. Well, also, this is the first time that he's not getting to, like, usually the only photographs that are being released by him are being, like, carefully selected. Yeah, like, okayed by him.

Right. Yeah, exactly. So this is what he actually looks like just being photographed. Yeah. He looked a little uncomfortable. He looked a little bit shaken. Yeah. I saw the pics.

He's one of those people that I feel like everyone knows that Kim Jong-un liked this. photographed yeah he looked a little uncomfortable he looked a little bit shaken i saw the pic he's one of those people that i mean i feel like everyone knows that kim jong-un like this where it's like they want people paying attention to them all the time but like only on their own terms and then in real life they're actually kind of like awkward and difficult to be around it's like oh you have such a carefully curated insta presence kim jong-un he's like damn but in person and yet in person it's mostly bad angles like yeah um well he's using a lot of facetune based on what i've seen he's basically has like the dog filter on all the time where he's like i'm cute right i'm great we'll see i mean like

you know south korea definitely wants to push for peace and again again, we will. I don't know. I don't want to draw any conclusions because there have been many moments where North Korea was like, yeah, we're going to do this. And then kind of not really backed it up with walking the walk. But again, I'd prefer to see that than like no meetings with anybody. And then suddenly the first people they meet with is John Bolton and Donald Trump. Right. with John Bolton and Donald Trump. Right. I mean, people who know about diplomacy and international relations have been saying forever, everything that the Trump administration is doing is destructive to America's standing in the global community.

And so, I mean, this could be one of the more obvious consequences of that that we're going to be seeing if indeed China and North Korea basically cut America out and the meeting with Trump basically doesn't need to happen because they're already denuclearizing. I'm for whatever it takes to get them to denuclearize because apparently Los Angeles is like his first target. Yeah, there was like an article that came a year ago that was like. Because he's a big Hollywood fan. And also, I guess we're close.

Yeah. Yeah, it's like a location convenience thing. And also, Trump would gladly see Los Angeles wiped off the map, I'm sure. So, yeah. Everybody wins in that scenario, huh? Seriously. All right. We're going to take a quick break.

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There's also a girl group on the train. His favorite girl group is just constantly performing. It's floor to ceiling gold. Are those like his safety blankets to travel? He's like, okay, look, we'll get your favorite band to perform for you to get you to relax. Did he also inherit the singers from his dad? Is this still like dad's trains? It's like, yeah, they were a girl group,

but now they are in their early 50s, but they're still really good. You get your dad's car, but the REO Speedwagon tape is stuck in the stereo, so that's all you can listen to. You're like, God damn it, I just want to listen to my own music. I am addicted to the idea of this train. I haven't seen a picture of the train, and I never want to.

Yeah. I keep thinking of Snowpiercer. Have you guys seen Snowpiercer? Yeah. I feel like there's definitely a Snowpiercer vibe on that train. It's like crazy. You know everyone on the train is like hooking up, and I bet there's train babies. There's like these feral train children running around the train because the

singer and the chef i i can't stop that that must be fucking torturous though for people who work the train to watch this dude just eat lobsters and shit and drink yeah well i bet the people who work the train are pretty well taken care of because they're the top of the top of but what if you're like a person who's part of the group the you know the contingent of that travel, but what if you're like just the dude who cleans up on the train? You know what I mean? Are you just eating the scraps? I don't know. Whatever.

Train janitor. Yeah. Train janitor. Hey. Train janitor. That's for our new show called Making Up Words. But we wanted to get to some hard news. Yeah.

Because there is a video game out that is super hot. Cool. Super cool. Super cool. It is an instruction manual on how to be a modern man. That's how I like to put this game. It's called Super Seducer.

It's called Super Predator. Move over, Tucker Max. We've got Richard La Ruina, who is apparently a real person and not a satirical character. He, even though his name actually has the word ruin in it, and he is just awful. He's the self-assessed Europe's top pickup artist.

And he has released a video game where he teaches you how to nag women and just treat women like shit enough that they end up in your hotel room. And you thought that just society and people around you could just glean that. But it's good to just have it all in one place from someone who I think looks like a bodega Unabomber, just like a terrifying, man, what a hottie. Love him. The whole thing, the whole game is basically scenarios where there is a woman or a group of women,

and then it's like a choose-your-own-creep venture where you're then like, you know, like one of them is like a woman walking down the street. A classic harassment setup. Classic harassment scenario in which it says, oh, what do you do? A, approach directly in front. B, approach slightly in front and to the side.

C, pretend to be blind. D, walk next to her e wolf whistle which i guess is and f and then f is the option is yo what up girl walking with her right uh and it's insane so like you can click on the thing and inevitably like until you do the right thing all of those seem like great options honestly i feel like the answer is pretty clear, which is pretend to be blind. And then bring back the Michael Scott character, blind guy, McSqueezy,

and just walk up to her like, so this, this shit is crazy. So there's other ones where it's like, there, there are these like women drinking at a bar. And again, it's sort of like classic set up women sitting in a booth,

sipping wine, sharing their feelings. For so many years, men have not known how to approach those women or to approach women on the street. How will you break the ice? Leaving them alone. One of them is ask them if they are talking about you. If they say no, then ask why not? My favorite answer is ask them if they know what you like in a girl

the answer being your dick that's i mean that's the whole sentence yeah that's like an option is the next option pretend to be flying no one of them is like creep up from on behind stealthily and like when you click that one the dude's fucking head comes up like a villain over a fence post. Like and then he's like sniffing them, smelling them. And they turn around and go, oh, I'm like, we're going to have a game night. Yes. We're going to have to find a way to stream this on Twitch. The Jamie Loftus review.

Oh, my God. I'm so like I would snap Richard LaRuina over my leg like a twig. I would I would end him LaRuina over my leg like a twig. I would end him. Oh, God. Well, I will have you know, Jamie, that he admits that the game was made before the hashtag MeToo stuff. So actual quote from him.

Right, but he wants the MeToo stuff. The MeToo stuff. But he wants to highlight the strong female characters in the game. You know, the living mannequins who appear and vanish on his bed. The scary dolls with holes in various places. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Strong female, independent female characters.

Strong female protagonists. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, there's even like moments where it's like talking to a woman who like has a boyfriend. And it's like, first ask if she's gonna marry him. That way you can take away her independence. It's like the most fucking manipulative. It's just psycho. It's crazy.

Yeah, it's all just like finding ways to attack the unconscious of people. And this is a guy who clearly knows what other people are thinking of him because he says, he hopes people can appreciate super seducers, strong female characters, and that it's an easy angle to take saying the game is whatever, sexist or whatever else. So it's just like so he knows. How he looks to the world. He would get a haircut.

First of all, and I got I don't know. There's and it seems so like goofy and dumb but then sometimes you'll like meet a guy in the wild who it's like oh you would probably like you've read these books right right right there was a guy who approached me a couple weeks ago this was and it partially on me uh because i was there but there seemed to be like a birthday party at the bar i was at i'm like like, I'm just going to take a piece of cake and see if anyone notices I wasn't invited. And so he came over.

He was like, hey, it's my friend's birthday, and that's her cake. And I was like, I know. I was invited. Oh, you doubled down? I doubled down and took a second slice of cake. But then it turned out he was just like trying to like start a conversation with me by yelling at me about someone else's cake and then made a bunch of strange comments about cake and i was like i actually have to get out of here comma arthur

period with my mountain of stolen cake wow i mean this guy he was in some hot water when he was saying that uh he felt british women are when he was saying that he felt British women are overweight and entitled that's why he only fucks with Eastern European women and they're like bro what classic neg movie neg your entire country neg the women right off top

what's up girl you're fat and entitled anyway that's a great way for him to explain why he's like a weird loser virgin he's like well I just don't think anyone in my country is hot. Right. And that's what this woman said. She's like, you're blaming women for your lack of success by calling them entitled, you fucking idiot.

And I've never, yeah, it's like I've never left this country and I think every girl here is super mean. Right. That's why I love Russia. He specifically calls out Russia. He's like, you walk down the street in London and they're like, whatever. Maybe you see like a beautiful woman here and there. Then you go to Moscow and it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah.

It's crazy. But the game is still on Steam, I believe. But it's no longer on the PlayStation Store because they're like, yeah, this game is kind of fucking gross. I don't understand. I don't know. What's their problem? Yeah. It seems a little bit like

they're censoring his truth. Right. Again, just pretend you're blind. I mean, anytime that comes up as an option, you know that's the option I'm fully going with. Yeah. Just pretend. Or you could pretend to be blind.

Or again, the greatest pickup line we've learned is ask them if they know what you like in a girl. Right. I'm fully going with. Just pretend, or you could pretend to be blind. Or again, the greatest pick up line we've learned is ask them if they know what you like in a girl. The answer being your dick. Your dick. Yeah, that's gonna work. Because this guy's so busy getting with various women from Russia, he also left a comment on a video

on YouTube that was criticizing the game that only had 150 views and started berating the person on YouTube. And then made a DMCA complaint to YouTube so that the video review of his... Oh, I'm sorry. It's triggering for Jamie. Sorry, sorry. My bad, my bad. Trigger, trigger. No, it's activating our coping skills.

I love the positive. Yeah, but he was angry because the game reviewer said, I don't know, maybe just be yourself and don't like pay attention to this guy's rules for how to like insult women into sleeping with you. And he was like, come on, man, that's cuck shit. That doesn't work. I mean, I'm sure ever since this came out, this guy cannot stop coming and making money. So it just sounds like- He comes money. Yeah, he comes little bills now. So jokes on us.

I think this guy got rich, though, really young and then was pissed that money wasn't equating to sex for him. So then was like, I got to figure out a way to gaslight women. Right. Fucking me. Right. In a way, I think it's partially like the Jon Hamm character on 30 rock where it's like,

he's like a okay looking dude who got rich when he was young and is like, wow, now women sleep with me. I must have like some amazing mind trick that I'm using on them. And it's like, no, man, people aren't being honest with you or like nobody liked you before because you were kind of a loser. And one woman was having a really bad day. Right, exactly. I just happened to meet her on the worst day of her life.

But I like that that guy who he put the takedown request to YouTube, he like felt bad and came back and then PayPal to do 50 bucks I was like I'm sorry really yeah and he's like you don't want your fucking money I speaking from personal experience cucks love to PayPal random people 50 dollars oh but yeah oh yeah we never heard the end of that story yeah so I guess that's maybe a good place to end right well so there was a there was a saga where you were doing a live stream on Facebook. And then what were people like giving you a rating? They're like, what would you rate her out of 10 or something? Someone named Swole Sauce, yeah, started a hot or not thread about me. And there were, I mean, the conversation, it's like, where's my WikiFeet page?

But the conversation, there was a lot of thoughts. There was a lot of good points, a lot of things that really made me want to run into traffic. So I messaged the guy who started the thread and asked him for $50. Accidentally Venmoed him $40. Negotiations took place. That's how you start the negotiations. Always Venmo. Give them $40.

Here's $40. Now this is what I want i want fat and 50 bucks so all said and done he ended up venmoing me 20 and said he'd come to uh my show in new york in a few weeks that's right didn't show he didn't show didn't show wow wow too busy getting swollen cleans but like swell sauce you or if he was there he was too afraid to talk to me. Oh no, that ain't Swole. And there was also, there was no one Swole at that show, so if he was.

I would have known. I'm being highly critical of my own audience saying, they're a bunch of weak losers. If there was someone Swole there, they would have stood out like a sore thumb. Alright, Linguini legs. He didn't show. Linguini legs. Linguini legs. Log right, linguine legs. He didn't show. Linguine legs. Linguine legs. All right, Jamie.

Log flume. As always. Log flume UTI. Log flume UTI. Jamie, log flume UTI. It has been a pleasure having you. Where can people find you? You can find me on Instagram, the application.

Oh. At Jamie Christ Superstar. That's where I've been having my panic attacks. That's my preferred platform. But your story's been great. Thank you so much. Always. Follow her for the stories at the very least.

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This is Showdown. You know what I mean? Because it's got, you know, we love bass playing in this show. And it's got a little nice little groove. You guys like bassist? This is a pro bassist podcast? This is a pro bassist podcast. I can't believe this.

Don't you date exclusively bassists? No, drummers. Drummers and magicians. Drummers and magicians only. My type. Well, let me tell you, the drummer is doing a little bit of magic on this track. So this is Showdown By Fins

Not my favorite Showdown which is The R. Kelly track On the Chuggy Factory Yellow also a good Showdown And that is going to do it for today We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast Talk to you guys then See you on the WikiFeets

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Showdown Showdown Showdown Showdown Showdown Showdown Showdown Thank you. I love you. Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years.

I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister, or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams.

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