The Daily Zeitgeist - Wick Is Sick, What Happened To My Husband? 5.22.19

Episode Date: May 22, 2019

In episode 397, Jack and Miles are joined by journalist and author Amy Westervelt to discuss Guy Fieri’s hair causing STRESS, the new season of Real World, ‘Born in the USA’ isn’t actually what you think it is, Joe Biden, Trump hating on Fox, Trump hating on Clean Air, John Wick, Detective Pikachu, an update on Operation: Varsity Blues, and more!FOOTNOTES: 1. Guy Fieri's Wife Lori Says She 'Always' Asks Him to Change His Spiky, Bleach Blonde Hair2. ‘MTV’s The Real World’ Reboot Gets Premiere Date On Facebook Watch3. What Does 'Born In The U.S.A.' Really Mean?4. Are Politicians Too Dumb to Understand the Lyrics to ‘Born in the USA’?5. Trump's Pennsylvania rally: The 40 most eye-popping lines6. E.P.A. Plans to Get Thousands of Pollution Deaths Off the Books by Changing Its Math7. Keanu Reeves' 'John Wick 3' Scored A Miraculous Box Office Milestone8. 'No Girls Allowed' Unraveling the story behind the stereotype of video games being for boys.9. Why That Astonishing Gift to Morehouse Students Really Is a Useful Economics Experiment10. LISTEN: 공중도둑 (Mid-Air Thief) - 쇠사슬 (Ahhhh, These Chains!) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 83, Episode 3 of your daily Zeitgeist! Production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially, off the top, fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News. It's Wednesday, May 22, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Sorry, babe. You just drew the Jack of the Barts. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!

You know that I would be of gray. You know that I would be of miles. If I was to say to you, girl, we couldn't get much cider. Come on, baby, spark that lighter. Try to set the hot takes on fire. And then in comes the Ray Manzarek organ solo. Thank you to Hannah Soltis, S-Soltis Hannah for that. Doors inspired, aka, you know, a band very near and dear.

Mm. Are you, you're a Doors fan? Well. They get a lot of hate. My dad worked for them. Right. Okay.

You know what I mean? Cool. Well, uh, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by an award-winning journalist and podcaster and the founder

of the Critical Frequency Podcast Network, Amy Westerveld. Welcome. Hi. Thank you. It's so nice to have you. I can't sing. No. Oh, no, no, no. What's your, well, this is what I ask whenever people mention that. What is your karaoke song? Nine to Five by Ellie Parton. Oh, wow. So you can sing? That I can sing. Yeah, so you can sing. It's not like doing some beginner stuff. Yeah, what are you doing here? You're a very smart and accomplished person. This is nothing against our normal guests.

No, Jack and I were sweating. We're like, man, Amy's like brilliant. I've been reading stuff, and her podcasts are really good. She's going to come to the thing where I'm making fart sounds off the rip. I love fart sounds. I tried to keep it to one of my more highbrow AKAs. I wrote that one specifically for the first day we have an award-winning journalist here. Well, so how did you get into journalism? That's a good question.

I needed a job the day after I graduated college. There you go. That helps. Yeah, and I got a job at a magazine that could only have existed in the year 2000 San Francisco. It was a print magazine about online shopping. Wow. That's amazing. Wait, so what did it like cover the trends in online shopping basically?

Yeah, like we online shopped and then wrote about it in a print magazine. Wow. Which will not surprise you never actually saw the light of day yeah oh really yeah we we made like three issues it was supposed to be um a companion to better homes and gardens oh okay and meredith publishing smartly decided before they sent this out that in fact it was a terrible idea oh it never even hit the hit the shelves yeah but i got a taste what a journalism what did you like review like the

earliest days of amazon or like i bought this song on ebay you know i was in charge of a lot of like shopping for the home kind of stuff so it was a bunch of like i don't know like mid-century modern collectors that would sell stuff online. And I would like list, you know, oh, like this random store in Nashville has a great online web store. Oh, that makes, okay. So like, then that makes sense in 2000 too,

because you'd imagine that those places didn't have like online, like e-commerce capabilities. And you still, that's sort of your main beat is online shopping, right? Still my beat, yeah. It's where I get all the awards for. Yeah. So do you think that kind of that early assignment gave you a toehold

as like a good online shopper? Are you good at that sort of thing? I am actually very good at online shopping. That's a really good skill to have, actually. Underrated skill, I think. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it did really set me up for a life of great online shopping experiences. Finding the deals.

Right, right. Nice. Never forget where you come from. Yeah. All right. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today, like you could all predict this, but of course, we're

going to start off talking about Guy Fieri's hair. Wow, the respect on the name. Guy Fieri. Guy Fieri. Wow. We're going to talk about the real world getting a reboot. We're going to talk about why politicians should probably, for their own sake, stop playing Born in the USA as their campaign theme song.

I mean, just listen. I mean, depending. Depends on what your campaign is. Right. The specific politicians who are playing it should probably hop on Genius and take a second look at those lyrics. We're going to look at the increasingly complex relationship between the president and his propaganda network. We're going to talk about something that Amy is very knowledgeable about, EPA fuckery and climate change denial.

And we'll do a box office report because America is fucking with John Wick hard. But first, Amy, we'd like to ask our guest, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? My most recent search was a history of milkshaking. Milkshaking. Yeah, so Nigel Farage just had a milkshake thrown at him. Beautiful. Which is fantastic.

Oh, got it. Despite having checked with all the local McDonald's and asked them not to sell milkshakes. And the signs that were put up were amazing. They're like, due to recent events, we will not be serving milkshakes or ice cream today. It was so good. But I was like, oh, has this always happened? And it turns out, no, this is a somewhat new thing.

It used to be eggs. Right. Eggs and pies. And before that, rotten tomatoes, correct? Right. Yeah. But I love it. I feel like we need to throw more food at our shitty politicians. Right. Eggs and pies. And before that, rotten tomatoes, correct? Right. Yeah. Yeah. But I love it.

I feel like we need to throw more food at our shitty politicians. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Because the shame of it, you can see how demoralizing it is. It's one thing to be like, you are so wrong because you are just a racist bigot. And you're like, okay, I'm going to keep it moving and my goons will swipe you away. Yeah.

And they're like, okay, I'm going to keep it moving and my goons will swipe you away. But when you have your dumb ass pinstripe suit just covered in vanilla milkshake, there's no way to make that look cool. Everyone's face looks ridiculous when they're first hit by food. There's always a photograph where they have a moment of not expecting it. Right, because I guess the point normally is you'll shame them by making them aware of their transgressors. Right. That doesn't work for this group. And like they know.

Right. Yeah. But now it's like, okay, I guess I have to do it in a language you understand. Wear the shame on you. Yes. And now, oh, now you hear me. Right. Because you don't like it now.

Right. Because they have no shame about their actual belief. Right. They have no shame about how they look though. They don't look stupid. You're coming at them on the thing that you value, which is truth and like ideas. Yeah. But they don't see about how they look though. They don't want to look stupid. You're coming at them on the thing that you value, which is truth and ideas. But they don't give a shit about that. They care

about how their hair looks when the cameras are on. And pwning the libs. Yeah, pwning the libs. I'm just thinking about great moments in shaming politicians like when somebody told Dick Cheney to go fuck himself when he was at that hurricane. That would have been better if it was a go fuck himself when he was at that hurricane,

that would have been better if it was a go fuck yourself with a milkshake. Oh, yeah. Yes. That would be a great thing to see Dick Cheney. And then his little wisp of hair. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Or just do leaf blowers around these people. Blow their comb overs. Oh, shit, a leaf blower on Trump? How is someone not just showing up and doing that every time Trump is in public? That should be our new move out here in the West. We leaf blow people. Trump how is like someone not just showing up and doing that every time Trump is in public that should be our new move out here in the west

we leaf blow people leaf blowing is fucking it hit you with a gusto wind oh man that will rearrange your shit yeah if you've never leaf blown

I highly recommend it it is a powerful weapon yeah I gotta I gotta plug in plug in leaf blower and it's awesome both

for three year olds and 30 year 30-year-olds alike. Oh, yeah. I'm sure your kids think you're like Thor or some shit. It's amazing. And yeah, you can just really do some shit with that gust of wind. Really damage your property with it. You can just knock bowls, centerpieces off the dining room table. Oh, inside.

No, I don't do it inside amy what is something you think is overrated i think that the show russian dolls russian doll russian doll yeah yeah is overrated i like i i watched it i like natasha leone i mean the acting is like entertaining but the overall thing and then they end up with like parallel universes quantum physics i was like what is this the secret for millennials i'm not into it it was one of those shows that started off really good and i was like okay you got me you got me and then it kept going i was like well you know i guess i'll keep watching i know i felt like they're they were just like how do we in this i don't know know. Whatever. Let's just do this. They're going to pass each other in parallel dimensions.

Yeah. It's like masquerade. Whatever. I don't know. I was like, I feel like this is something I would have come up with when I was like very high. Yeah. In my dorm room at 19. Sure.

Sure. Not. Yeah. I love parallel dimensions. So I'm the wrong audience for this overrated. Did you like the whole thing though? I didn't watch any of it. But you like Parallel Dimensions.

I do. You'd like it. What I'm telling you is it's very interesting because they show you just this much and you're so, you know, very little bit and you don't know what's going on and then as it zooms out, you're like, huh. And you think you get it

but then shit just doesn't start adding up a little bit. Right. And then you start asking more questions of the writing than you do like just accepting what you're seeing, huh. And you think you get it, but then shit just doesn't start adding up a little bit. Right. And then you start asking more questions of the writing than you do just accepting what you're seeing. Yeah. But it's a ride. And then it's like, oh, women can do bad physics too. Right. Yeah.

See, that's why I think I like Parallel Dimensions because I'm good at understanding just enough of a scientific concept to misunderstand it in an interesting way. So I'm like, yo, that's really tight. What if there's like a hundred me's? Right, exactly. Machine gun theory. Yeah, exactly. What is something you think is underrated?

Nicola Sturgeon, Prime Minister of Scotland. Oh, yes. She's awesome. She's my favorite like lady politician by far. The Scots are relentless with their insults. So like her entire career

has consisted of like constantly being called ugly in the press. Oh, wow. And she's just like, whatever, I'm ugly. Deal with it. And I'm here and you're not.

Yeah. But she's just, she she's great she was like the first politician to actually call out Trump um in like an international way where she's like I'm not sitting down with that guy he's a clown oh yeah that's right and he wanted to because he wanted to go visit his mom is from Scotland oh and also his mom is from Scotland and he likes to be like I'm Scottish and Scotland's like no you're not're not. No, you're not. Yeah. They're like, we got leaf blowers

if you pull up to Scotland. Yeah. Yeah. His mom is also a Tim Burton movie character. Yeah. If you have seen pictures of her, it's mind blowing.

Both of them look like they would be at some dinner party in Edward Scissorhands deleted scene. Yeah. Yes. It's a combination of an Edward Scissorhands deleted scene yeah yes it's a combination of an edward scissorhands like background character and also like one of the hallucinations from the bad trip

in fear and loathing in las vegas like they really uh are are a strange looking couple but it's a cautionary tale for people who want to embrace predatory capitalism right they look like it's manifesting in their physical yeah they have, they have their like disintegrating from their soul. From their grief, yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, but I mean, there's no way that Donald Trump has a complicated or weird relationship with his mom. I'm sure she was loving and just bathed him in proper attention.

He's such a daughter's boy. Yeah, exactly. And that's why he's so good to women. What is a myth? What's something people think is true, you know, to be false or vice versa? Well, I've been writing a lot about the media's role in climate denial lately. And I think one thing people believe to be true is that especially their sort of heroes of journalism like The New York Times, The Washington Post are kind of like, you know, have spotless reputations and could never possibly be influenced by corporate interests. and then Exxon and then ExxonMobil to create the advertorial and the op-ad, which are like two forms of native advertising that show up in the paper.

And I mean, I don't know. I feel like the media has actually been one of the most effective tools of oil company propaganda, which I don't think people know or necessarily even think about, including people in the media. Actually, I feel like this is like a myth that is self-perpetuating. Right, right. Because I have a lot of friends who are reporters and have gotten into these discussions online with people a lot too, and they're like, but I've never been –

I work for the New York Times, and I've never been influenced by an oil company guy. And it's like, yeah, dude, I'm not talking about like some guy in like a tux and tails and top hat with like a, you know, mustache showing up at your desk and being like, spike that story. You know? Yeah. It's like, give me a red pen. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. It's approved. Yeah. Yeah. But we know from various documents that, you know, like the guy who ran PR for mobile forever, for example, would routinely pull ad buys from papers that were running too many stories that were critical of the industry. Wow.

And then those like ad buys would return. So, you know. Right. See some causation there. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway. experience it and not realize it is they're at an editorial meeting they pitch a story and their editor or editor-in-chief would have like gotten some feedback and so they just like subtly

steer them in another direction yeah they're like we're not as interested in that we feel like we've covered that we've done that a lot let's talk about the animals affected by the arctic trail right yeah yeah animals yeah what they did to get there. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So I guess the myth is that influence shows up in obvious ways and it really doesn't. That's why it's influential. Right. You know? But I mean, those companies legitimately believe that there's no such thing as climate change,

right? What, the oil companies? Well, they all have pages on their websites now that say that they do. Now their thing is that, you know, we still can't really tell how bad it's going to be. Not true. Right. We've known since the 60s. Yeah. And that it's not their responsibility.

They're really big on being like, it's a global problem that requires a global solution. Right. But, you know, U.S. oil companies are the number one producer of fossil fuels and have been for a while. So they're also the global supplier of that global problem. Yeah. I'm like, wait, I'm hearing global a lot in relation to you. Oh, so it does sound like y'all problem.

Yeah. We'll see. Yeah. Is that stat true that it's like 100 companies that are responsible for like some huge portion of the – Yeah, like seven – I think it's 70%. Yeah, the Carbon Majors Report, which came out maybe – I think the first one was five or six years ago. There was one guy, Richard Headey, who looked at all of the sort of human emissions from the industrial age to now

and then looked at certain you know, certain industries and certain companies and did this whole kind of inventory and figured out that, yeah, 100 companies are responsible for, I think it's 70% of global greenhouse gas emissions, which is then formed the basis of lots of different lawsuits around that. And which is why we don't use straws. Exactly. So it's kind of on us. And twisty light bulbs.

Think about how many straws you've used. Oh, that's a great myth, actually, is this whole like individual responsibility thing. Yeah. So like the oil companies are constantly like, well, you guys wanted it. We're just supplying a demand. But A, most individuals I know are not oil executives and did not spend massive amounts of money to influence how people understand this issue or lobby Congress to get certain regulations. Most people, this idea that, oh, it's our fault

for driving. Most people I know would rather commute on public transit. It's just not like they haven't been given that option. And even if they wouldn't rather do it or like knowingly rather do it, it's because there's a huge competitive disadvantage to not being able to like have the freedom to roam at the same speed as somebody who has your same job. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Yeah. It's this like, and I mean, I know lots of people who very much like know that climate change is happening, know that humans are involved, whatever, and that will like kind of repeat this stuff. I mean, you see it every Earth Day. It's like 10 things you can do. Yeah. You mean pull up to BP with a fucking, with a squad?

Right. Direct shit? Yeah. It's one of the things I can do. Well, it's funny because the greenwashing stuff is so effective because if you looked at a BP ad, you thought they were in the solar business. Oh, yeah. Right. And like.

Exxon's in the algae business now. Right, exactly. Yeah. And it's so effective, too, because I think it completely obscures like, no, do you remember the oil spill that happened? Right. That's the same BP. Yeah. But, you know. Yeah. Great oil spill that happened? That's the same BP. But, you know.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Beyond profits. I mean, yeah, it needs to be a huge systematic, systemic change, right? Yeah. Not stopping using straws, although do whatever you want. Yeah, I mean, that's fine. Like, do that stuff. Sure.

But that's not the biggest driver of the problem. That's not going to break the wheel. Well, and also, fossil fuel companies actually, like, they will continue to increase supply whether there's demand for it or not. We have an oversupply right now. Yeah. There's actually like a lot of data that shows that their continued push to drill more or, you know, get more natural gas from here to there or whatever is actually like driving an increase in demand and not the other way around. They act like somehow they created the only like demand side only economy. The game is completely rigged. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. Well, let's get into something equally important. As we discussed up top, Guy Fieri's... Wait, hold on. You really respect the shit out of that last name.

What happened? Is it because you watch so much and you hear him say it like that? No, I think it's... Does he say it like that? Yeah, because he was like, hey, it's Guy Fieri. Guy Fieri.

I think I heard it on a podcast. Maybe Doughboys pronounce it that way. And so I just... Oh, you've internalized it Maybe Doughboys pronounce it that way. And so I just- Oh, you've internalized it? Yeah, internalized it that way. It's also better. I like the way it feels to say it that way more than Fieri.

Yeah, well, I have about the cultural sensitivity of an Ellis Island guy trying to understand your name. It's Fieri. It's Fiery. Fiery. Yeah, you know, he has a very famous look. Yeah. And I guess he's a nice guy, right Fiery. Fiery. Yeah, you know, he has a very famous look. Yeah. And I guess he's a nice guy, right? There's a lot of stories. Yeah. Contrary to his

outward look, he's actually a very kind person. Is he like the Keanu of chefs? Well, I don't know. We won't go that far. Let's pump the brakes there, Amy. But there's, you know, a lot of people are always like, what's up with his style? So his wife recently did an interview with uh people magazine very hard-hitting journalism

yeah um and talking about like so she says this when i first met him he had no goatee he had dark hair he wore a suit to work every day now i look at him and i'm like where's that man i married with the whole clean look? Whoa. And she's kind of- That is like some shit that you say at a crisis point in your marriage. Yeah, you say that in front of a marriage counselor. Right, exactly. And you're like, and you know, to be honest,

I look at him and I think, where's the man that I married? Exactly. I don't know what this clown is before me. This bizarre, grotesque being. So then we find out what the genesis was of this whole look. And apparently it was an accident somewhat because he had a hairdresser at the time. And his guy says, he said, I was just kind of having one of those moods one day and said, just do whatever you want. She goes, whatever I want, whatever you want. He recalls, I get done. I'm like, you're going to wash out that shampoo. She goes, no recalls. I get done. I'm like, you're going to

wash out that shampoo? She goes, no, that's your hair color. I'm like, my what? It was Friday night at like six o'clock. I had to be at the restaurant. I'm like, no. She's like, yeah. So I put a ball cap on and I walked to the restaurant. Wow. And then they kind of go on to say like his hair was like changing with the seasons. Like it used to be seasonal like that it was like a mood i guess that he would put on his hair uh so he said i would do a red blonde in the summer for fun that is fun yeah he'd cut it hot and it was yeah he'd cut it and it was like really fun uh that's his wife laurie speaking and then she said and the wintertime, he'd go back to dark. So it's like, you know, he realizes there's work, there's play. And, you know, she says that she would never,

but does not want him to change it. She says, I always say, when are you going to change your haircut? But it's stuck and it's him, she adds. I tease him every once in a while. And I do want a little change sometimes, but that's like me changing my hair to black. I mean, I'm not going to do that for him. So, boom. Yeah. i kind of like that i like that she can be like he looks like a clown but you know it's his brand now i'm like that she's like that open about it that they seem like

they support each other as much as this guy is uh you know sort of a cultural clown every everything i read about him makes me respect him a little bit. I mean, he's the fucking mayor of Flavortown. Right. Don't fuck with him. That is fair. And don't forget, was it one wrestling like Tex Wasabi's or some shit? The names are cool too. Yes.

You know, I think he's a magic. He's like a puckish figure in the world of the culinary arts. Yeah. Like if Shakespeare had written about America instead of puck, he would have created Guy Fieri. Guy Fieri. Yeah. And then speaking of puck, the real world. Boom.

Thank you. Has a relaunch. I threw that up. Coming. Yes. Yes. Thank God he threw it down. So I've actually been wondering about when they were going to bring the real world back

and just do a more, I don't know, like social media friendly version where you're like traveling to other countries and you're doing sort of a thing where like they put them in interesting towns rather than just like Miami Beach. Miami Beach. This time the jacuzzis in Vegas that they're having sex in. So it seems like they're kind of doing that, but not really. Well, it's all happening. Well, I mean, look, were you in a focus group or something?

You said family. You said social media friendly. It's going to be on Facebook Watch. Okay. Okay. And you want to go to other places? Yes. Well, you better get your passport because we're going to Mexico, Thailand, and Atlanta.

But there's like three different, three versions. To me, that's more interesting. I want to see the Mexico version of the real world or the Thai version. But will that be airing in America? Oh, it's not even on TV. It's on Facebook Watch. So we can watch whatever we want. Yes. Are they airing simultaneously? Like you're going to get to see? Oh, it's not even on TV. It's on Facebook Watch, so I'd imagine. We can watch whatever we want. Yes.

Are they airing simultaneously? Like you're going to get to see... Oh, I don't know. That's where the article I read, I stopped reading because I was like, ah, cool. Facebook, back. Don't remember the last time it was on. Will they have like an exchange program where the U.S. housemates are like waving to the housemates

in Thailand and cultural exchange? I don't know, maybe cultural exchange. The new iteration of the iconic reality show will launch with three versions in Atlanta, Mexico, and Thailand. The re-imagined series expands on connecting people from wildly divergent backgrounds to find common ground on the issues that often divided them.

In the U S version, seven strangers come together at a house in Atlanta. Every moment of their lives is taped as people stop being polite and start getting fake for the purposes of TV that looks real. So, yeah, I don't, sure. I'm just curious what these, if like kids these days, you know? Yeah. Kids these days give a fuck about this stuff.

Yeah. Because to me it was interesting in the 90s. Yeah. It was the only show in town for a little while. Yeah, and the internet wasn't really that poppin so like i would learn i'm like oh that's what people who like live in boston are when they're in a impossibly cool house right what social media is and like the trends on social media are today that used to be mtv like mtv was just where you went to see what

young people were doing and gave a shit about. Yeah, you would just parrot whatever you saw. And now all of that has been replaced by social media. So it's interesting that they're trying to take one of the brands off of MTV and just put they didn't capture any of the like influencer bullshit that people, you know, there's an entire industry of that on Instagram and Snapchat and shit. And a bunch of those got hacked recently, too. Really? There's like a million influencer accounts whose personal data got leaked because there's

a company in Mumbai or something that like works with influencers to do ads and their database like wasn't encrypted. So people just like pulled up to their database, and it had phone numbers, emails, the projected value of each brand, and on top of it, locations for the photos. It was bad. And they just took it down.

They're like, ooh, we're going to look into that. Anyway. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back definitely caruana galizia was a maltese investigative journalist who on october 16th 2017 was murdered there are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price.

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I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her.

What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back and uh joe biden did something uh over the weekend that a lot of politicians have done uh which is play the song born in the usa as a patriotic anthem at one of his rallies i mean who can forget man i think there's only a couple words to that song it's born in the usa as a patriotic anthem at one of his rallies i mean who can forget man i think

there's only a couple words to that song it's born in the usa so that's it right there's only words a song it says born in the usa over and over for what five minutes yep and that's it are there lyrics to that song i think there actually might be. There's like an intro part. Right. America. I think the intro part is just USA USA. Oh wait no okay sorry I'm reading here writer Jan McNabb

wrote. Oh I guess there are lyrics. Alright let me read them here. Got in a little hometown jam so they put a rifle in my hand, sent me off to a foreign land to go and kill the yellow man. From Watchmen? I think it started as an anti-Vietnam song. Oh, wow.

What? Yeah. Well, that's hardly appropriate for somebody trying to become the US president. Yeah. Well, I mean, okay, we'll stop being flippant about it, but it's clearly a song. No, I'm going to keep this going for the entirety of the run of this podcast. Okay, how about this? I had a brother at Khe Sanh fighting off the Viet Cong.

They're still there. He's all gone. Yeah. Having trouble deciphering this. Is this about the 4th of July? It's talking about being in the shit. It's about this about the 4th of July? It's talking about being in the shit. It's about born in the 4th of July. Seriously.

I mean, because this song was written because he was interacting, right, with Vietnam veterans? Yeah. And that's what inspired him to write this song. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Bruce Springsteen is the- The boss. The Shakespeare of the blue collar class. Yeah. And so he's, you know,

he's writing about what, what people were going through in the eighties as they were, you know, coping with the fallout from the Vietnam war and, you know, being a generation that, uh, was sent to the Vietnam war and, you know, struggling with PTSD and coming back to a country that was just wanted to forget that that war ever happened. Fortunately, we learned our lesson from that generation. Nothing like that has ever happened again in the United States. We just did it so we could sell Coca-Cola in Vietnam. Yeah.

But Biden, I mean, this seems to be on brand. Biden does seem to be trying to be the Ronald Reagan of Democrats. Yeah. I feel like he's trying. Yeah. He's trying to give people the like, why can't we just go back to the way things were? Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. Like when I didn't know, like how bad everything was, I think is really what it is. Cause then other candidates like, are we ready to confront all this shit? Or we just want to pretend?

Let's hide. Biden is the let's hide candidate. He's like, hop on my back and we'll warg back into 1999. It was okay to touch women and make the occasional racist comment. Sniff a kid's head

in front of their parents. Like it wasn't giving you life you didn't have to apologize for shit do you think Joe Biden do you think he's a psychic vampire do you know like that idea of like people who feed off the energy of other people

do you think that's what he's doing when he puts his face in close to someone he's just inhaling their soul those children all immediately age like 20 years. And you look, the non-hair plug part of his scalp, that hair grows in the back real long. He grows a rat tail when he does it every time. If he was not focus grouped and tested

and managed by an entire corporation's worth of people, there's almost no chance he wouldn't have a ponytail, I feel like. That's very true. Yes. Oh, like what Joey Boy left to his own devices would be for his style? Yeah, exactly.

Dude, dangle cross earring? He would be part of some weekend biker gang. Yeah. He'd definitely be in a cover band. Yeah. Oh, shit. What band, though? I think it would probably be like a Bruce Springsteen.

Right. And what was his band's name? The E Street Band? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Bruce Springsteen and the K Street Band. Oh, yeah. Joe Biden and the K Street Band.

Jack Abramoff on drums. Right, right. But yeah, so I don't know. This is going to continue to be just a very interesting campaign to follow. But everyone loves that song. Trump loves it, too yeah no it's a it's a great song uh it's not great for the reasons that they think it's great but you know it's the it works in a beer commercial and so it works for somebody who's trying to capture that part of americana and that seems to to be what, what he's going for. But this is kind of like the American mindset,

right? Like historical awareness and attention to detail and nuance go out the window. When we go into Patriot mode. Yeah. It's like, what? Born in the USA.

Yeah, man. I heard Iran is there is a quote unquote increased threat that they can't really specifically point to what it is. Right. but I think I hear that war drum solo in the distance and I'm getting fucking pumped. Ignore everything that's happened.

The four letters are the same as a rock, man. Gotta be a threat. Yeah, it's... I don't know. Iran has that whole nostalgia thing too, I think. It's like people of a certain age will be like, yeah, fuck iran i remember those guys but then like younger people are like what yeah i have lots of persian friends

exactly like this has nothing i'm like you can't just like you know drum up the ghost of the and said i'm like oh yeah man i get it like because they're not even fucking like the the shit they're pointing to to try and create the outrage for this conflict is so bullshit and like unconvincing. It's like, really? Yeah. I don't even know what we're supposed to get upset about here. Yeah. A Saudi oil ship?

Vague Muslim stuff? I don't know. Right. Yeah. And I think, yeah, they're counting on maybe the baby boomers memory of the Ayatollah plus the remnants of Islamophobia that are here from 9-11 to be like, is this enough? I'm sure they were like, which one? Which one? Ah, Iran.

Perfect. Yes. Right. But then. But thank God the actual military brass are like, oh, this is a bad idea. We got a lot going on right now. Right. And you don't want to do this.

Right. This is we're not we're not. And you don't want to do this. Right. Because this is, we're not ready. And we don't want that smoke. Anyways, if you listen to the mainstream media, Joe Biden is a shoo-in. But just, I like to remind myself, at this point in the 2016 Republican primary, Trump was a month away from even joining the race. So we're still very, very early in the game. You know, there's plenty of time for Biden to fade. Oh, yeah.

I mean, I'm hoping for some really cool gaffes on that debate stage. Oh, yeah. I'm hoping for somebody to press him about some shit and try and hum and haw his way out of it. Yeah. Trying to hem and haw his way out of all that shit. And just a little bit more trouble in paradise. The president and his beloved, Fox News, are having troubles. Yeah, they're having... He's saying, what happened to the man I married?

Yeah, what happened? Because I look in your eyes and I don't see him anymore. You know, he had a rally in Pennsylvania. First off, I just want to say that I think seven people fainted during this rally. I mean, he's at that Beatlemania level. Yeah, well, when you put a bunch of octogenarians

in an 80 degree plus fucking airplane hangar. That was one of them, Trump. Yeah, exactly. Well, he you put a bunch of octogenarians in an 80 degree plus fucking airplane hangar. That too. Was one of them Trump? Yeah, exactly. Well, he was also complaining. He was like, what are these lights? Yeah. He's like, who are the stupid people who thought this was a good idea?

It's like really odd. It is like one of the most Trumpian things I've ever seen because he turned on the lighting people and got the crowd behind hating the lighting people. He's like, who are these idiots doing the lights? For me. The people doing the lights. I need so you can blow out my wrinkles by having it so lit. Literally. But yeah, I guess seven people.

It was like interrupting the speech and stuff where throughout, it was like in 15 minute increments, someone would go down and Trump's like, we're going to need a doctor over here. And then 20 minutes later, we're going to, he actually, credit team is like, we'll need that same doctor over here. I'm surprised he didn't go, get this guy out of here.

Yeah, right. He's like, yeah, knock the hell out of him. Loser. Falling down. You couldn't handle it. Also very Trumpian in that he blamed it on the lights, which clearly was not the problem because he's the only one getting the lights.

So he just assumes that's what's making it hot for everybody. What's happening to me is happening to everyone. That didn't stop him from doing his whole full-on Trump dementia jazz solo, like he normally does when he goes off prompter. There were two main things, I think, that stuck out for people throughout

this rally. One was he's afraid. I think he thinks Joe Biden will actually beat him up in a street fight. Oh, really? He couldn't stop going on about Joe. He's like a slightly cooler old guy. Yeah, exactly. Who doesn't care that his hair looks like who knows

whatever that is. Like silver? Spun? Yeah, but in the very beginnings of spinning silver. You don't have the full thing yet. He kept saying, he abandoned you. He abandoned this state when he left Scranton. He was 10 years old when he left.

It's not like he was this fucking cent. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know what he was trying to say. He's like, and all the jobs. What did he do for you? Like, and kept trying to hit this point that like Joe Biden's a fucking turncoat on the state of Pennsylvania. Like, okay, fine. trying to hit this point that like joe biden's a fucking turncoat on the state of pennsylvania like okay fine um and then you know did his usual shit like democrats are treasonous and the fbi treasonous you know the usual things that come out during those solos then he started talking

about fox and just very disappointed that they've been he's like what's with all these democrats on fox right and was like kind of doing it in a hurt way where like you're passive-aggressive you're not full that's not like saying Fox News is fucked up for putting these people on he goes I don't get what's going on in Fox we got I don't know what's going on with these people there I don't know I guess uh that's I guess we'll have to see what's going on with them like so hurt it's not just like this is unacceptable what are you doing what are you thinking and you know he because i think he realizes too there is more and more you do start seeing takes from fox people who are very not foxy yeah they're like yeah this like what he's doing is technically impeachable or these

other things where they can't just fucking you know toe the line like they used to. And I think that's probably a very – that would make me nervous if I was Trump because if Fox starts to show signs of that relationship weakening, that could harm you a bit. But it was clear because when he started saying like what's going on with them, people started booing. Were they booing Fox or Trump? Yeah, Fox. Oh, interesting. Because he was like – he's like they want to take more time putting Democrats on. They're Republicans. What's going on with that? And a few people were like, Fox. Oh, interesting. Because he was like, they want to take more time putting Democrats on. They're Republicans. What's going on with that?

Right. And a few people were like, yeah, boo, boo. And I think other people weren't quite putting it together. They're like, are we booing or wooing? Yeah, yeah. Are we still watching Fox 24-7? Yeah. Right.

It's like, wait, where do I go if it's not Fox? Right. What sound should I have on in the background all the time? One America News. One America News Network. You're going to love it. OAN. Just a garbage news.

Is that a thing? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's the Sinclair one, right? Yeah. And I mean, Trump at one point was like talking about making his own news station. Right. Before the election, right? Before the election.

Yeah. Yeah. If he had lost, we would be dealing with that right now. With a Trump competitor to Murdoch. Yeah, right. As it is, he talks to Rupert Murdoch daily, and so everything he does, he kind of tanked Sinclair a little bit with some of the stuff that he's blocked and let pass because Rupert Murdoch talks to him every fucking day.

Yeah, he killed that Sinclair merger because it would have hurt Rupert Murdoch. Kind him every fucking day. Yeah, he killed that Sinclair merger because Rupert Murdoch, it would have hurt Rupert Murdoch. Kind of good for us on that one. Yeah, I'm glad Sinclair didn't own every fucking local station. Yeah. Let's talk about the EPA. Oh, God. Yeah.

I mean, a lot's changed with this new administration. It used to protect us, and now they're just trying to change math to obscure the fact that they are harming us. So for those that don't know, including myself, until I read the article, like most people. OK, so it seems like since Trump took office, their whole sort of North Star has been just whatever Obama did, undo it. That's just all we need to know.

And then if you have to prove that that's going to do good for people, then do whatever you have to do. And so case in point is this Clean Power Plan, which was one of Obama's like it was like one of his climate change measures. Like, yo, we got to check these coal plants. We need to switch to renewables. We need to watch like particulate matter in the air because it's affecting people's like it's causing premature deaths. And so the Trump administration is trying to do away with that. But to justify it, they have to demonstrate that, OK, whatever this new policy is going to at least have some kind of perceived benefit to the people. And the analysis before, they were pointing to about 1,400 premature deaths with the current modeling they've used to analyze what this new bill would do.

And they're like, we got to make that look like it's going to be good. Right. So they are now switching or the word is that they're switching to a completely different method of calculating this that like goes against like decades of research. And like it's unseen the kind of math they're using to do this. And it's also not peer reviewed. Right. Exactly.

At all. And it's not like it's not a new thing, like with an administration to try and change the analysis a bit to sort of fit whatever their policy aim is. But it's usually not done to this extent where you're disregarding sort of widely accepted analytical models. And the scientific consensus is only getting stronger and stronger. Yeah. I mean, well, this particular thing on particulate matter like flat not only is the the science that they're using i'm using air quotes that people can't see they were clearing yeah like not only is that not peer-reviewed or vetted in any way but it

actually like goes against all the science that is peer-re So what they're basically saying is that like, you know, actually you don't need to account for the impacts on people like of particulate matter under the 2.5. Micrometers or whatever. Yeah. Micrometers. That like, Oh,

you know, as long as like you're, as long as you're looking out for like this stuff over here, like this other stuff doesn't matter, which is not how it works. That's still being inhaled by people. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And there's actually there's a guy who led the EPA transition team for Trump and who were not Fieri, not Fieri, but a different guy.

The guy named Steve Malloy. OK. He runs a site called named Steve Malloy. Okay. He runs a site called junkscience.com. He's like a lifelong hack for the oil industry. Now he's working for the coal industry. And he led the Trump transition team for the EPA. And he's been giving this presentation all around. He also led this thing that was going on, like an attack on the EPA for a while that was like,

which first of all, you know, the guy in charge of transitioning the EPA like basically has been trying to not have the EPA exist forever. His entire career has been like, how do we destroy the EPA? So like, yeah. And then, yeah, he's been giving this presentation for like at least a year with this exact plan.

If we can get them to sort of like – if we can kind of push this other alternative theory, then we can get them to roll this back. Because, of course, PM2.5 is the thing that coal plants emit. Right. So it's like a lobbyist for the coal industry, basically, that has like brought this whole thing forward. Yeah, drain the swamp, drain the swamp. Yeah, yeah. It's just, it sucks because there are a lot of lifelong EPA people who are trying to do their jobs still. And a lot of them are actually like hanging in specifically to combat this stuff, you know.

But yeah, yeah. in specifically to combat this stuff you know but yeah yeah it's uh yeah it's funny because like it's like on one hand you have like economists at the treasury department like leaving because they're tired of like because they're just like i'm out like this is fucking actual analysis what the fuck you talking about why are you punishing me because i'm telling you this bullshit policy is going to harm people and like those people have thrown and i get it too like if you're really trying to make a difference and people are like, you're being vilified for it, that's a terrible environment. And so it's not to say that all those people who left are cowards or anything, but it's, I understand too, like, especially for people at the EPA, they're like, fuck, if I leave,

then some guy with like a TI-83 is just going to hit Matt random numbers like C equals zero equals no deaths. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. So Malloy for a while had been pushing this idea. I can't remember the exact name of it, but it's something like false science or whatever at the EPA where he was he was trying to say that the EPA's science on particulate matter is like totally baseless know baseless and unfounded it's actually like the most solid science of like any regulation at the EPA and and he was pushing for kind of like a a level of scientific certainty that's basically impossible to hit so he was like if we can pass

this thing then basically like there's no science the EPA could ever do that would actually meet this criteria because that's not how science works that didn't work so now he's pushing this like let's use this alternate model right that's just as good except it's not peer-reviewed and like right and it's not been vetted by anyone and it's all meant to bring coal powered plants back online exactly which it's like it's all it's for. Come on. The whole point is, yeah. Why? To go back in time 50 years? Yeah, well, he promised the coal industry that it was going to be like 1990 again or whatever peak coal was. But, yeah, I think that was the sort of point.

Because even the bill that the Trump administration is putting forward, it's like only minimally makes certain coal plants more efficient. So it's not like it's groundbreaking by any means. It's just like, yeah, sorry Obama understood how bad coal-powered energy generation was. We'll come back and we'll just fudge the numbers so it doesn't look like people might die prematurely from strokes or things like that. Yeah. Have they thought about looking into whether the global warming is being caused by those lights at the trump

rally maybe that's totally a theory they would pursue yeah yeah that could that could work they all pin it on one guy right it's this guy he's been putting these lights up yeah it's biden somehow we're close to some shit like that It's like after an investigation on all these school shootings and the opioid crisis and global warming, we found a singular source. Joe Biden, kick his ass. Go. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And it's time to check in with the box office. We like to look at the box office to see what Americans are thinking about feeling and right now America is fucking with John wick in a major

way John wick 3 came out over the weekend and so John wick one was like a hit but it was like a hit, but it was like a surprise sleeper hit. People didn't see it coming. And John Wick 2 came out, and it doubled the box office of the first one. Oh, it doubled it? Yeah, it doubled it. John Wick 2 doubled the box office. I guess that makes sense, because most people, I think, caught on to John Wick after the fact. So John Wick 3 came out this past weekend and doubled John Wick 2.

What? John Wick 3 came out this past weekend and doubled John Wick 2. What? So this dude, Scott Mendelsohn, Scott Mendelsohn writes about the box office, and he said this is completely unprecedented. The only times that it's happened in the past are with Toy Story and Captain America, and he pointed out that Toy Story had a decade break between 2 and 3

so you have inflation and more people and then Captain America's third movie was Civil War which was basically an Avengers movie so they were adding all these new elements to it and Toy Story 3 was adding the element of

sadness and just existential dread. Always a winner in the box office. But John Wick 3, the only thing it added was a cameo from Halle Berry. And I think there was more dogs. The Berry factor. The Halle factor. Right.

But he was just saying it's really a testament to what originality and like a homegrown franchise can do if you like actually create a new franchise that's like just based on this very simple idea of like what if the best assassin instead of just like you know bond being a pretty good one like what if it was a guy who was like almost supernaturally good at killing people and And then I also think there's like a money ball aspect to it in the sense that they noted there was this competitive advantage with stunt coordinators directing movies in foreign, like the Raid movies were these action movies

that like broke out internationally, kind of out of nowhere. And they were made by a stunt coordinator. And so they gave a stunt coordinator a movie with like america's favorite movie action hero and as with moneyball where the second person who figures this thing out ends up doing better because they like make small corrections to it because you know oakland did well but they didn't actually win at all and then boston used that theory to win the world series like i think

john wick is the boston in that because it's they might not like that yeah i mean yankees might not like it but they're the evil empire so um oh wow someone's a red socks fan someone's a socks fan socks uh but anyways yeah it's an unprecedented like rise he said it's borderline miraculous especially in this world where you know netflix is killing uh original movies according to everybody yeah well i think again it is it's like when they say the directors for action scenes or action films normally be like, all right, I get with this stunt coordinator.

I'm like, how do we make this fight look cool? And then they tell you, but then the director's ultimately going to be like, well, I want to do this and this. They're just like, Hey guys who always think up the wild stunt scenes.

What if you just fucking made a whole movie? What does that look like? And they're like, Oh really? Yeah. John wick. And everyone's like, what the fuck? Yeah, exactly. Because it really does. It like, it's Yeah. John Wick. And everyone's like, what the fuck?

Yeah, exactly. Because it really does. It's like a, it's almost, yeah, you could, these stunt coordinators are like just doing their wildest dreams, getting to put them on screen. And they're, yeah, it speaks for itself. And not pretending that action movies are about anything else. Yeah, right. Like, let's just go for it.

This is what people like in these movies. The most simple. It's like, I'm just looking at your script. Like, I mean, there's no exposition here. What's just go for it. Right. What people like in these most simple. I'm just looking at your script. Like, I mean, there's no exposition here. What's the inciting incident, right?

Uh, the guy's dog gets killed and that's all man. Yeah. Fuck the rest. But it is. Okay. It's almost like a comically simplified movie, like premise because it's just like the dog being killed is like the one thing you don't do in a movie.

They're just like that's enough to drive him to be the best killer ever. And then the bad guys are all like comically bad. It's a lot of fun. Pokemon also is blowing up at the box office for a video game movie.

It's probably going to end up being the biggest video game movie ever, which I going to end up being the biggest video game movie ever, which I always thought, I always associated Pokemon with trading cards, but apparently it was a video game franchise first. Yeah, and then lots of cartoons. Yeah. Yeah.

But they were pointing out in this same article that video game movies are typically 85% of their box office comes from international markets. And this Pokemon movie is notable for being like high 30% coming from North America. So it kind of raised the question to me of like why video games are so much less interesting to audiences in the US,

like disproportionately to other markets and uh super producer daniel goodman was saying that he thought it had something to do with how video games were marketed like toys r us had this policy where they didn't market any toys to boys and girls it was either boys or girls you like came in and said this is a toy for boys or this is a toy for girls and so nintendo had to do that in america and made it specifically for boys and so they basically imprinted early in our cultural relationship to video games that it's a nerdy thing for boys who don't interact with girls uh and boys eventually became protective of it thanks to gamergate uh but yeah so it became i don't know and then pokemon because it also had this

larger universe of trading cards and other things and the characters are just fucking adorable like it all it has like the characters is fucking adorable they're fucking great but they're so it's like a less binary gendered relationship uh of the characters to like boys versus girls and so maybe that's helping with why the movie is breaking out a little bit more than your typical video game movie right like rampage and um world of warcraft were both movies that were kind of middling to underperforming in the united states but they were monster hits overseas but those are franchises that are like very just you know well rampage was more of like an arcade game right that was like when you used to just fight on buildings with

your yeah animals but But also, aren't those, I mean, I feel like those games are much more like aggressive fighting games and Pokemon is like, I don't know. There's a little more whimsy. It is violent. I've seen Detective Pikachu. Oh, you have?

Uh-huh. I have kids. Did you like it? How was it? It was fine. I mean, I have to How was it? It was fine I have to see a lot of these movies With my children And as movies that I'm seeing Because I'm there as a parent

It was like you know Entertaining Pikachu's very cute Pikachu's my favorite Which one's Detective Pikachu? Which one is it? I guess it is really violent. Yeah, that's true.

I probably shouldn't have taken it. Oh, I was just joking. I didn't know if it was violent. I mean, it's not like that violent. But I don't know. It's just, it's like, I don't think of Pokemon as like a war game. Right. You know?

It's more of a dog fighting game. Yeah. It's very much like a dog fighting game. But they're so game. Yeah. Innocent. It's very much like a dog fighting game. With cutesy mutant dogs that we fire. But they're so cute. Yeah. But also the girls are all dressed like, I don't know, anime porn stars in Pokemon. Oh, no. Really?

Always. In this movie? Not in this movie, I guess. Yeah. Definitely in the show. My kid watches a lot of Pokemon and I have to constantly be talking about, you know, most girls. I was actually asking Daniel who is our official Pokemon consultant. That could be a position at most publications, Pokemon consultant, because it's so opaque to people who are just a little too old for it.

But anyways, I was wondering, is it an alternate universe? Is it a foreign planet? Or is it basically an alternate dimension? We found that it was an alternate dimension that has some tie-in with Japan. Yeah. I mean, Japan is an alternate dimension, too. Right, exactly.

But the animals they're just evolved to be more adorable um yeah what are the chances that climate change instead of killing all of us yeah uh makes everybody just like adorable and all the animals adorable great just takes us to Pokemon land yeah take a while for those mutations to right yeah all right yeah uh let's talk about the education system real quick. It was just a weird, I just saw a very odd juxtaposition of articles as I was scrolling through like some site or whatever. The first one was about the billionaire Robert Smith, who, if you don't know, over the weekend,

he was the commencement speaker at Morehouse College's class of 2019 graduation. And, you know, did the usual commencement speech thing and then was like, oh, and also I'm just clearing all your student debt to the tune of around $40 million. And it was like, oh my God. And which was amazing. You know what I mean? And some people were painting it as like a heartwarming story, but we all know this as a late stage capitalism thing that's disguised as a heartwarming story where someone who

has all the means is like, here's I'm seeinggy. I get that this will help you a lot. And the system should have not failed you before. And then that was juxtaposed with this other article that said Olivia Jade, who is Aunt Becky's daughter, who was the influencer who got kicked out of USC for Operation Varsity Blues, and her parents are still looking at 40 years in prison is out here saying she actually wants to go back to USC now. Now, we remember why in the first place she was open to going to USC and that was because she was interested in the college experience

because the parties were going to be lit and like game day. Like think about game day. So cool, tailgating. Just doing like the whole college thing. Yeah, so she like totally values and appreciates the unique privilege of getting a college education. Well, here's the thing. So this little Us Weekly always has the T, which means her publicists are trying to get

this story out, was that Olivia Jade wants to go back to USC. She didn't get officially kicked out, and she is begging the school to let her back in. Now, unfortunately for Giannulli, 19, she's unlikely to get her wish anytime soon. Quote, she knows they won't let her in, so she's hoping this info gets out. She wants to come out looking like she's changed, learned life lessons, and is growing as a person. So for sure, she wants people to think she's interested in her education. Oh my God. Not that she is.

She wants to come out looking like and people thinking. And the article straight up says that shit. I don't, look, how bad are her publicists? I don't know. I don't really feel like Aunt Becky can afford much right now. Right. Probably not great. Not a lot of mental bandwidth on that.

But I mean, I think also when you look, that one video she had, she's like, I don't know, I'm fucking over school. And she's like, my school is really chill about my work and everything's cool, but I'm over it. Right. As you guys know, I'm not into school or reading or books or stuff like that. So I guess by, quote, back to school, what she means, quote, is rehab her image so she can continue her influencer business because fucking education because privilege yeah and it's just so funny to see

people on such opposite ends of the spectrum you have people especially people of color who already like the barriers to entry for getting you know a good education to not go into some pit of debt and the upward social mobility is very different and these people here being like, oh, my God, this person cleared my debt. The freedom that allows those people is unimaginable. And then you have this other person who's like, fucking education, man. I'm trying to get this Sephora deal for my Instagram page again. You guys want to watch me buy jewelry? Right.

It's like I just did a cool mukbang video where we're eating KFC out loud she did like a video like that I'm like what the okay cool so you know

see I'm like you guys I eat KFC I eat In-N-Out it's like so bomb right and like I love it so yeah subscribe to my channel

and like and comment I saw a bunch of people on Twitter being like people that had criticized the elizabeth warren student debt thing be like applauding the morehouse thing and then i saw a bunch of other people being like i don't know how you could do that and i was like oh let me introduce you to libertarians yeah that's what to say yeah they're like you know have a weird very naive belief in like personal charity solving the social safety net problem yeah yeah but then like a friend of mine

was like yeah but then you ask them like oh so do you like donate a lot to charity and they're like nah nah right what someone else does that yeah well then how do you know it's gonna work for ourselves because you think that everyone's doing it, right? Yeah. Right. So they love this stuff. They're like, oh, see, billionaires that are nice. Yay. Yeah, exactly.

You know? Yeah. And just come on now. We're already, I mean, what kind of a safety net is there even left now? It's like pieces of dental floss. Yeah. Compose our social safety net now. Yeah.

But hey, you know, shout out to the benevolent billionaire. And I mean, really good on him for doing that. I can't, there's no criticism of that whatsoever. But I think for a lot of people, like on morning news shows, they're like, this generous man, blah, blah, blah, rather than like the education system is impossible to navigate

unless you're a person of means. And the fact that like one college class had $40 million in debt, that is insane. That shouldn't be. Right, exactly. And then also think about it. You had one man who could just blink an eye at $40 million. Here's a chip.

Look at that relationship too and all that concentration of wealth on that end of the spectrum. His net worth is five bills. Five billion. That's, wow, wow 40 million spread across 396 uh people so roughly 100 grand each that is fucking nuts monstrous yeah and how the oh how do you pay that back it's you just have that minimum payment every month forever and you hit that yeah and then yeah so i hope anyone who has a college of dead think about candidates who are talking You just have that minimum payment every month forever. You just have that every month and you hit that, yeah. And then, yeah.

So I hope anyone who has a college debt, think about candidates who are talking about erasing that debt. Yeah. Please. This episode has made me think that maybe I should start voting. Guess who has a free university? Who? I'm going to take it right back to the beginning.

Scotland. Oh, look at them. Boom. I'm going to Aberdeen. Let's go. Yeah. Glaswegians, welcome me with open arms. They're so smart. Why do they all talk like that?

What? What? Oh my God. Have you read Scottish Twitter? Oh my God, it's the best. Gotta get into Scottish Twitter because they phonetically write their shit out and you can hear it in the accent and all the slang.

Yo, Scottish Twitter. Shout out to y'all too. It's the best. My husband's Scottish. And so my plan for my kids is that we will move to Scotland when their college age. Oh, there you go. Or maybe like a year before. I don't know what the rules are, but yeah, I'm hoping it lasts that long.

And then they'll have to pick Rangers or Celtic. I know. Well, yeah, their dad's kind of picked already. Oh, boy. Celtic, Rangers? That whole thing, Rangers. That whole thing, it's crazy. So I was raised Catholic.

He's a Rangers fan, which means Protestant. To me, I'm like, there's so few differences between these, but whatever. But he has friends that won't speak to him because he married a long non-practicing Catholic. Wow. Oh, really? Wait, what are Rangers versus? Rangers, soccer. Two Glasgow's.

Yeah, soccer. So yeah, and Rangers. But it's become a thing in Ireland and Northern Ireland too because they don't have a league the way that, yeah. So people will come over for those matches and like there's a

there's a pretty good like short doc on Vice about just how the old firm is it called that? it's something it's about the old firm derby but like

just knowing how much it goes back to this Catholic and Protestant thing and like the it's crazy fucking wild slurs they use against each other that are like

really really something else. A great vice documentary brought to you by the 22 rule. Yeah. A bunch of 22 year olds work them 22 hours a day and pay them 22,000 a year. Also from a vice article. Right.

That is literally something that the cool vice like CEO said, like told somebody. And it would be a mistake for me to not use this opportunity for Super Producer Nick Stubble. Oh, back in the building. Thank you for coming back. Held up the sign with one of our favorite Scottish things to say. If you want to say Spice Girls like a Scottish person

say Space Ghettos. Space Ghettos. Space Ghettos and Space Ghettos. Space Ghettos. And you've got Spice Girls. Right, man. There we go. Amy, it's been so fun having you. Where can people find you and follow you online?

I'm on Twitter at Amy Westervelt, and my podcast is called Drilled. Got it. It's funny because we're all fucked. Right. Boom. There it is. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying?

Well, actually, I can tell you, yeah, this is an oldie, an oldie but a goodie that was just brought to my attention from Mara Quint. I don't know what her handle is, but it was basically on this libertarian thing. It was like, libertarian, social safety net can be solved by private charity me oh so do you give a lot to private charities libertarian no no right yep there you go now i want to do that uh miles where can people find you you can find me and follow me on instagram at miles of gray and even on the playstation network right now i've only gamed with a couple of you. Shout out to Wes and Mantucky. My boy Mantucky.

But yeah, holler at me. I see some of you on The Division, and you're not inviting me, but it's all good. I won't take it personally. Maybe I am. And a tweet that I like. Okay, now this is a video, so I'm sorry that I have to say this, but it's a video of a vulture

walking all shady with big ass steps, unsure. And it says, looking for the cereal aisle in a grocery store you've never been to. I just really related to that. Because it is funny. You get into a grocery store you're not used to, and I'm really always like, what the fuck is... The produce is on the other side of the place I go to and another one from Amy Miller

found out the hard way that I don't have a lot of quote come to Disneyland at the last minute end quote type friends honestly pathetic and shocking Neil Brennan tweeted Kawhi Leonard seems like the kind of guy whose family doesn't even know he's in the NBA he just says

I'm going to work and comes back eight hours later and they go back to sitting at the kitchen table not speaking. And then at Drill tweeted, alcohol is a drug, beer is alcohol, and drugs are a form of beer. beer is alcohol and drugs are a form of beer. And then Johnny Sun tweeted, somebody hugged John because John Legend looked really awkward during the SNL finale. People haven't seen him during the credits.

He's just like, hey, what, you? Maybe? Nope. Anything? Anyways, you can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what's that going to be today?

the song we ride out on. Miles, what's that going to be today? Okay, so this is from this Korean, I guess, folk-tronic artist. Is that how the best way to describe him or her? Mid-air thief. Did you just make folk-tronica? No, no, that's a real thing.

Folk-tronica is a genre. But this album, it's from an album called Crumbling, and I had to look up because I don't read Hungry. But the song is called basically, ah, these chains, uh, and it's trippy and it's like, it goes through like a few different genres.

It is a journey. So, you know, I would actually, you know, I know we give you a little bit of it, go find the whole thing. So that is mid air thief.

Ah, these chains of cappings. Um, so, uh, the daily zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app,

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