The Daily Zeitgeist - Wilbur Ross Doesn’t Speak POOR, Zuckerberg Develops Taste For Blood 1.25.19

Episode Date: January 25, 2019

In episode 316, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Brooke Van Poppelen to discuss the adjective "wild," Mark Zuckerberg's meat obsession, the State Of The Union being delayed, the situation in Vene...zuela, Wilbur Ross's lack of understanding of the human race, Costco's new streaming-video service, and more!FOOTNOTES: 1. WATCH: s m o k e these m e a t s2. Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey: The Rolling Stone Interview3. Editorial: Sen. Cory Gardner to break with Republicans on Trump’s wall — it’s the right thing to do4. Top Venezuela military brass vow to back Maduro amid unrest5. 5 Apocalyptic Realities In A Country That's Out Of Food6. US recognizes Venezuelan opposition leader as interim president7. Wilbur Ross: Trump cabinet member worth $700m ‘doesn’t understand’ why federal workers are using food banks during shutdown8. Ross "doesn't understand why" federal workers are being forced to use food banks9. Walmart abandons plans for video streaming service and will focus instead on Vudu10. Can Costco Tap A Streaming-Video Niche That Netflix, Amazon Have Ignored?11. WATCH: Hako Yamasaki - Help Me (Tsunawatari) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:58 Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 66, Episode 4 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness using the headlines, box office reports, TV ratings, what's trending on Google, and so she meets. It's Friday, January 25th, 2019. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Transform Transformers more than Meats O'Brien courtesy of Hannah Soltis and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
Starting point is 00:02:30 co-host Mr. Miles Gray Oh shit Get ready for this one In the time of Trump and I was a monkey So I'm out to cut the junkie With the plastic miles balls Gray paint the vegetables Jack fool stars with the beefcake and the hose Thank you to Tyler Olten for that. Soy Second Rate Podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:00 We're some losers, baby. That's why we are podcasters Okay, so that is from Tyler Olten again Yes, a sphincter says At a sphincter says What? Thank you, you know, Beck Shout out to Scientology
Starting point is 00:03:14 Yeah, yeah Shout out to Scientology indeed Well, we're thrilled to be showing Shout out to the Golden Suicides Yeah Do you think he gets his talent from Scientology? Of course Of course. Of course.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Yeah. I mean, that's why Tom Cruise looks so good. I mean, does Beck, like, Beck ate time travel in his face, let me see. No. Yeah. I think that's particularly good to Thomas. I think you have to be Scientology beaten. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Yeah. To look back at it. Okay. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian, actor, and writer, Brooke Van Poplin. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Hey, there you are. It's Van Poplin off. It is. There we go. Everyone, get Poplin and Lachlan. Hey. We're podcasting. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Good. So good. Brooke, where are you from? I'm from the Detroit Verbs in Michigan. Okay. Going right. Good. So good. Brooke, where are you from? I'm from the Detroit Verbs in Michigan. Okay. Going back. Not Lachlan. Poplin and Lachlan.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Yeah, I'm from the Verbs in Detroit. Lived in Chicago for a little bit after that. Okay. My comedy career started. Yeah. Did like Second City, IO, began stand-up, which is still questioning that choice. And yeah, then did New York City for a decade. Now I've been here about three.
Starting point is 00:04:30 And I don't know about LA still. I like the- I was about to be like, yeah, what do you think? I mean, like some cool adult things sort of were able to happen for me here. But I don't, I don't know. It's a whole thing. I was like, listen, I decided to stop drinking two days ago. Everyone else did like, you know, dry January.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I was like, fuck that shit. And then I was like, I choose my own weird date. So I'm like starting dry January 23rd to maybe February 1st. No, my goal is a month. We'll see. But yeah, it's just, I feel, I think as a lot of people say after they've moved here from New York City like just kind of lost
Starting point is 00:05:06 don't know my place there aren't very people vastly different styles of city yeah for sure but I'm determined
Starting point is 00:05:13 like this is the year where I was like I just want to like put it out there like you guys you don't know what it means to be invited to a podcast but it was like
Starting point is 00:05:20 really excited to get in a car and drive somewhere so thank you live your best life. I've been here almost 10 years, and I feel like I'm just now getting out of that phase. But I am a severe introvert, so that has greatly slowed my progress. So I'm sure you're going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:05:38 No, but I was like, you know what will get me really on the map is starting my own podcast. I'm like, I'm home even more now. What's your podcast? It's called Side Work Podcast. Side Work. We're all former service industry or current waitresses dish in about that side of the food and restaurant that nobody gives us any glory. Yeah, that's so interesting. So almost everyone's been a waiter or server at some point in their life.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Or it's now been posited by Ellen DeGeneres and also our girl Sandy B. Bullock that she's like, everyone should wait tables one day of their life to understand what it's like to be able to multitask, wait on someone else. We nominated President Trump as the person who needs to wait tables one day of his life more than anyone. He would argue with all the customers. Yeah. Oh, you didn't like your food? What was wrong with it? Okay, well, it came out hot. It was a Trump steak.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah, exactly. He doesn't get steaks. We played a game where we were, there's this hashtag called server life, which is really funny. If you've been a server, it's like they're on the job just shitting on tables they hate in the moment. And so we played a game where we were all tweeting as Trump as a waiter, like hashtag server life.
Starting point is 00:06:49 And he was just like, totally in the weeds right now. Basically because I reported half the kitchen staff to ICE. My fault. Right, right. Server life. Server life. Yeah, that'll at least work off tips. Just something.
Starting point is 00:07:02 A job we have to work off tips. Yeah, that'll definitely put your mind in the zone. Yes, it sure will. So anyways, we just got rejected by iTunes. I think because, so we'll have to talk to you guys for some help or something. What? Yeah. Yeah, we got rejected.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I did everything, all the thing. And I think it's because I forgot to turn on the explicit content in SoundCloud. Oh. So I resubmitted, but I was like, we're not like the Hitler Youth podcast. They're on the front page of iTunes right now. I'm looking now, and it looks like it might be the graphic nudity in your logo, maybe. No, I'm just joking.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I was like, what are you talking about? Yeah, no, one day is exactly how long I lasted as a waiter. I was very bad at it. I have very shaky hands. Oh, no. Just pouring water all over the table. Jesus, sir. This shirt is Prada.
Starting point is 00:07:57 All right, Brooke, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're telling our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about Mark Zuckerberg's meat obsession and how he kills that meat. We're going to talk about the State of the Union address being delayed and just how the right is dealing with the idea that maybe the negotiator-in-chief isn't that good at negotiating. We're going to talk about Venezuela being an absolute shit show, all of that and plenty more. But first, Brooke, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, God, I don't know. I feel like I already blew that up at the top. I was like, it is just nonstop searches. Like, why did iTunes reject me? Why can't I have a podcast? I was
Starting point is 00:08:43 like really going through it and I was like, what? It's just like this and then seamless. And then I was really, then I was also researching Dutch wool mid-century modern blankets. Wow. So there we are, everybody. That is very specific. Why Dutch wool? Because they're so fucking rad.
Starting point is 00:09:02 You got to look that shit up. They're so cool. Like, especially if you look on Etsy. I kind of got a little obsessed. I really love interior decor, but not spending a ton of money on it. And there are these old vintage blankets that you throw over a nice new bed, and they just, like, are one of a kind. I hope I have $400 blanket money. Not soft.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Scratchy. I keep waking up with, like, wiry pieces of wool in my eyeball, but my room looks so good. Really. I'll show you a picture. Actually, I'll just, whatever. We can talk. This is like, there's nothing against pulling up a photo while you're podcasting. But I got the best one.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Well, it's not one you cuddle with on the couch. You like put that to secure all the heat. Oh, yeah. It's sick. Living that mid-century modern dream. Right? Oh, yeah. It also looks like an alpaca living on my bed.
Starting point is 00:09:54 But the dogs love it. They feel like they're in a wolf den, just being cuddled. And it's good for exfoliating the skin. Yeah. And the eyeballs. Yeah, but that was just a weird recent. You know, you're welcome, Etsy, if you get a bump. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:08 With your Dutch wool, you know, blanket sales. Yeah. I'm also Dutch, so it felt, yeah. Oh, are you? I was just like, yeah, Van Poppelen. Come on. Yeah. Van Poppelen.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Van Poppelen. And you're kind of wearing orange, too. Yeah, I'm a little on the nose right now. Yeah. Put in shoes, you can't see them underneath. Yeah, right, exactly. Came clogging in. What is something you think
Starting point is 00:10:26 is underrated? This is interesting. I'm going to go out there, everybody. I think underrated right now, ooh, I almost feel like because I did it overrated first. Yeah, let's do overrated first. I feel like my counter argument
Starting point is 00:10:40 to underrated. It's all about presentation. Exactly. So let's overrate it. Let's overrate. Uh, everyone abusing and using, I think the concept in the term like self care and this idea that I'm like,
Starting point is 00:10:55 no, no, no, no. Like self care. I think ultimately I think for your average person who's not a spoiled brat, it's like boundaries, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:04 if like, if you're like, like a mom who is just like oh my god like i i need to ask my mom or a friend to come over for one hour to take care of these kids so like i can have an adult moment or whatever where everyone else is like a self-care going to like brunch exactly and it's all like for a lot of people it's escapism and money spending, you know? And like, I also think that like, because on the flip side, I'm like what's underrated is accountability,
Starting point is 00:11:32 which is I think the flip side of self-care is like, and I'm sorry I'm going like deep on this. No, this is great. But I'm just like, no, no, no. What you need to do is actually probably fix some of your fucked up persona and problems which contribute to you constantly being like, got any of my mouse that a watch this way. And I feel like the ultimate person who has no accountability, but constantly does self-care is once again, Trump. It's just like, oh, God, like I left the government on fire.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Here I come. Mar-a-Lago self-care. You know, I feel like self-care is know to get my mind off this yeah I feel like self-care is being like really co-opted for you know once again like spoiled pampered Instagram culture sure and uh yeah I think more people need accountability in there yeah I think accountability too like it's a lot of people deal in self-delusion or it's easy to all the time sort of look externally at problems you're experiencing and never even take a second to sort of look inward and be like am I contributing to this in any way rather than the mentality of like,
Starting point is 00:12:29 I mean, look at all this shit around me. I need to self-care the fuck out of myself. Right. Right. And it's like, I think the term self-care certainly came out of like, like the past two years of like the presidency for some people, they've been really activated and you know, be nuts. But it's like, how about do not digest a never-ending flow of news cycle?
Starting point is 00:12:47 Because, like, then, yeah, yeah, of course you feel like you need to go just, like, into a self-deprivation, you know, tank or whatever, floating, whatever. But it's about monitoring, like, I think monitoring, you know, maybe modifying some of your behaviors. Like, here's an example. modifying some of your behaviors. Here's an example. Self-care. Told myself, you need a king-sized bed with a big Dutch blanket on it because you're worth it.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Because also, your boyfriend complained that the dogs kick you guys all night long, hog the bed in your little queen bed. The truth is, I am sleeping in this king bed. I'm being kicked in the head all night. I just scoot over from one side of my giant bed now with both of those assholes following me. The truth is accountability.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I need to get them training and they need to like learn how to not sleep with me and not scream through the night. But I'm unwilling to like have more than like two nights of that where I was like, I got to get a king bed. Yeah. It's the same problem. And it's like, no, it's like a joke with my friends now where I'm like, yeah, I think I'm really going to buckle down and get the dog some training. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:50 And then now I've got a bed I can't ever remove from my house again because it's so big. I think you need to break up with this guy. That's what it's like. Oh, yeah, right. That's self-care. Look what you made me do. You should have been training these dogs.
Starting point is 00:14:03 But, I mean, yeah, I think this is a very good point. A lot of the people who are the happiest are people who live for other people and are accountable to other people. And some of the poorest countries in the world have happiness ratings way higher than ours. And it's just being around like family and having close-knit communities and but you can't really monetize that no right you can't sell it in america and like things that's just a constant like lens that we should be viewing everything
Starting point is 00:14:38 through is that the solutions that you're given on a day-to-day basis in america are just like whatever the best version of that is to sell as opposed to like what's actually good for you as a person. What's available to you externally. Right. Well, right. And it's like, you know, what's not sexy? Cognitive behavioral therapy. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:57 You know, and what is sexy is like following some dumb lifestyle, you know, influencer on Instagram. Right, exactly. That sort of thing. Like, I need a geometric ring. Exactly. And like, I'm guilty. I've got like weird. I bought a weird shaped water.
Starting point is 00:15:11 This is the most embarrassing thing. I was just like up too late. Those Instagram ads got me. I bought a flat water bottle that you hold a little more like a book. And like, I don't even know what state of mind I was in, but I was like, this is certainly a more chic way to move about the world, carrying a water bottle. Right. $35, showed up at my house and I was like, you're done.
Starting point is 00:15:33 You're cut off. Right. Send this back now. Right. This is so stupid. And I was like taken in by like a different tactile holding experience of a water bottle. I was like. It's going to change your life.
Starting point is 00:15:44 What have I done? God, wake up, you know, but like that, but you can keep it in a stack of books, which you're always carrying around when you go to class. I was like,
Starting point is 00:15:56 do I currently have an issue storing a water bottle in my backpack in the, in the little side thing that's already meant for it. And you're like, for a water bottle, you're like that laptop, that laptop slot in my backpack is feeling empty. Oh, I'll put a water bottle in there that is flat, void filled. All right. And finally, what is a myth?
Starting point is 00:16:14 What is something people think is true, you know to be false? Besides the one you just busted for us. Yeah, totally. I think it's just interesting because I was thinking too, you're like, oh, I'm not feeling well. And as much as I'm like, dude, you just start taking some of that oregano oil. You know, I do believe because I'm like, I just think it burns all living organisms just out of your throat, good and bad. Sure. Oh, the creation juice place.
Starting point is 00:16:38 I'll take that wild shot. That's called like the cure or whatever. It's just like raw garlic and ginger, which usually helps my throat a lot better. Anyway. No, I think it's called like the cure or whatever. It's just like raw garlic and ginger, which usually it helps my throat feel a lot better. Anyway, I digress. I think it's just like I've tried to pump the brakes on being so oversold by this idea that like all Western medicine is bad. Like, yeah, there are awful companies.
Starting point is 00:17:00 There are self-serving doctors. But like this idea that people who peddle completely unregulated vitamins aren't also a billion dollar industry who are just trying to sell you stuff. And I'm like really trying. So it's not that like I debunked it per se. It's just like I think everyone's going super overboard. Again, feeding in this like self-care and holistic and natural.
Starting point is 00:17:24 And it's like, dude, like they're spraying organic fields with stuff that's actually not on the list of safe chemicals for humans to ingest as well. And just because it qualifies under the standard of organic doesn't mean it's good for you. So I just feel like it peddle you this stuff. Sure. I mean, yeah, the goops of the world, especially, too, right? Dude, you know what? I did see, like, there was this interesting, like, her and her, like, vaginal steaming, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And how she, like, brought that to the— The yoni. Right, exactly. Yoni egg. Yoni egg, yeah. Yoni egg, the vaginal steaming pots that you sit over. Right, yes. And it literally has no added benefit.
Starting point is 00:18:12 You're like not supposed to mess with your vajayjay. All right, hold on. I'm going to break this thing down then because I've been sitting over it for this whole recording. Scrotum is extra droopy. I was like, are you going to mansplain a vagina to me right now? Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I think you've got to understand about the vagina here. Oh, you thought I meant break it down. Break it down. Yeah, I know. I was like, hold on. I need to take this vagina steamer that I've had under my chair for this whole recording away. The scrote steamer.
Starting point is 00:18:40 It's very uncomfortable. You know what, though? Don't have a problem with someone steaming a scrote because it's an outer organ, you know, which takes well to be clean. Steam wash that thing. You're not really supposed to get up in your stuff and clean it. You've got a whole system in place, like, you know. Yeah. Also, if I found out that the herbs that they put in the vaginal steaming, had I gone and done it, followed this fad. One of them is mugwort, which I am
Starting point is 00:19:06 anaphylactically allergic to. Holy shit. So I would have died and gone into anaphylactic shock while squatting over a vag pot. Yeah. And that is embarrassing stuff to put on your gravestone. Yeah. More embarrassing than you, Giuliani.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I lied for Trump. I died from a vag pot. I know in Italy. I died for the fudge pot. I know like in Italy, there's a level of organic that they call like biological or something where it's literally to qualify. Only shit you can use is water and the sun. Right. And if you fucking add anything, they're like, yo, you lost your license. Like it's like enforced with like law enforcement.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Good. And I'm like, why can't like, where are the people who are giving us that? But I guess for the scale of like crops or whatever people are growing here. Yeah. I don't know. Like you just have to go to your farmer's market. I mean, my organic fruit says biologique on it. Is that, is it maybe just a translation?
Starting point is 00:19:59 Oh, I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. I want it. Consumer reports. Literally already was like, where do you get it? What is it? Oh God, Brooke, stop. Stop. I don't know. We'll see. I want to. Consumer Reports. Literally already was like, where do you get it? What is it? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Brooke, stop. Stop. All right, guys. Let's talk about some things that are happening in the zeitgeist right now. So I just wanted to – this is kind of a random one, but I think this is one of the interesting details of the zeitgeist that I always find myself paying attention to is how words filter through the zeitgeist. that I always find myself paying attention to is how words filter through the zeitgeist.
Starting point is 00:20:30 And I've noticed myself actually wanting to use the word wild as an adjective, like instead of like crazy or some other thing about like something being over the top. And then like, I found myself using it so much that I was like, all right, I got to stop using that. And then I noticed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez use it in a tweet yesterday. And then I woke up this morning, I had my first newsflash on my phone had wild used as an adjective. And Brooke, you have a theory on where this is coming from. I do. And I'm not trying to name drop that I know and admire this person in particular, but I really think like Nicole Byer has been saying this like for a long time yeah uh she's used it as a hilarious adjective like I used to uh produce and direct her like when she she do interviews on girl code like her Instagram
Starting point is 00:21:17 descriptions have been you know basically she's used the adjective wild for as long as I can remember to basically describe how insane and racist people are in her comments while being really funny about it. But she's like, people are wild. Yeah. And she's been doing it for a long time. I think she's like wild is the new yas. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Right. You know, it's fun to have an adjective and a descriptor different than crazy because crazy is getting a little tired. Yeah. Right. and a descriptor different than crazy because crazy is getting a little tired. And now it is sort of like, oh, well, it's like a gaslighting word toward women or it's being disrespectful to anyone with mental health struggles or whatever. Wild is like, ah, this feels fresh. Rolls off the tongue.
Starting point is 00:21:57 I mean, I think it's just ebonics, essentially, because it's like a thing I hear. I think it starts probably with wilding. When they were using that talk about teens teens the problematic use of it of like these black teenage like wilding right and then that turns to wilding out to wilding out or they wilding right and then you get wild and i think yeah it's like it's definitely a thing i've heard in hip-hop but i feel it's one of those things that it just reached the threshold where now it's just spilled over into the general like american lexicon yeah where you hear wild a lot but i think with also desus and mero too yeah they probably use the word wild 7 000 times an episode
Starting point is 00:22:35 do that oh yes yes yes yes and it's and using it as the wild something uh like as a modifier too like something can be wild or you're like, I'm smoking the wild L, you know, like whatever it is. I'm sure it's like all of these things, you know, like it's all a bunch of contributing factors.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Yeah, and I think many people are getting it from many dimensions. Yeah. Yeah, I think wild and wild and has been,
Starting point is 00:22:57 I think it's, it must descend from wild. Yeah. And I think it's also like, right, if you can use it in different like areas of language,
Starting point is 00:23:03 it's sort of like, I was in Hawaii and just, you just say mahalo for everything, and it's like a good, cool thing. Right. You overseas, like in the Netherlands, like a word like gazelle, it's just like good general feelings or whatever,
Starting point is 00:23:19 or like lecker just kind of means like- Cute or nice. Tasty, cool, cute, nice, whatever. Wild, I think generally is kind of i i think it's a it's definitely attributing negative qualities to things right now right like or things that are extra right extra or negative i feel like is kind of what that means i i wonder yeah it's also like a very good description of our day-to-day lives and you know we have somebody running the free world who seems to be governed by
Starting point is 00:23:46 animal instinct and it keeps yeah it keeps our news cycle completely wild I'm still sticking I like you know I know crazy is a little played out so I prefer craisins I go that or bonkers and bananas still stand by
Starting point is 00:24:01 I like bonkers and bananas those are a couple of my faves not as popular I'm gonna say I'm thinking I'll just and bananas still stand by. I like bonkers and bananas. Those are a couple of my faves. Not as popular. Right. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to say, I think I'll just attribute it to New York. I have a feeling that's where it all started.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Yeah. Big city of dreams. Because where, I mean, we get so much of our slang from either drag queens or hip hop. And a lot of the stuff we get from hip hop is coming from New York. But anyway, yeah, this is a wild segment. Yes. Where watching you be like, I've noticed myself wanting to use the adjective wild. It's a very delicious dish. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I don't know. I find it interesting. I want to see if other people find it interesting and keep an eye out for it. Well, when we hear like Corva Coleman doing like a, you know. Right. It'd be like, oh, Wilde, next on NPR. I think just like the way Lit has also crossed the Rubicon too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:55 But yeah, that seems more like a new thing. And I understand why that is. Like, it's like a thing kids say and it just comes up the normal way that like kind of hip catchphrases come up. But like wild has been a thing. My parents have said like for years and stuff. And I don't feel too old to say it. Right. There's like,
Starting point is 00:25:16 there's like a non-ageism with the word wild. I feel like you'd see hippies say like, man, that's wild. Yeah, exactly. Far out. I know somebody probably wrote a dissertation on the origins of wild in slang.
Starting point is 00:25:29 So please hit us with that study. Yeah, and I mean the vocal fry, one of the most interesting things I've heard in the past couple years was somebody tracing vocal fry as it went from Valley Girls in the 80s to then just most women to now everyone has vocal fry. I don't know what you're talking about. It's literally also another one. Anyways, we're going to stop talking about this. We will take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist
Starting point is 00:26:07 who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote, what is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's
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Starting point is 00:29:46 available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Mark Zuckerberg. Who? Is a friend of mine.
Starting point is 00:30:08 No. So Jack Dorsey, the founder of Twitter, was recently interviewed by Rolling Stone. Yeah. And they said, what was your most memorable encounter with Zuckerberg? And he was like, well, there was that year when he was only eating what he was killing. He made goat for me for dinner. He killed the goat. I guess he kills it with a laser gun and then the knife.
Starting point is 00:30:32 So I guess he used maybe a stun gun is what he was talking about. Well, yeah, then they clarified. They literally, the way that's written in the article is a laser gun? Yes. And he says, I don't know, a stun gun. They stun it and then he knifed it. And then he knifed it? And then he knifed it? Like a prison shank? Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:30:48 Stabbed a motherfucker 18 times in the chest! And then they send it to a butcher, and I guess he was saying there's a rule in Palo Alto where you can have six livestock on any lot of land, so he was just cooking wild goats. But then, this is the part where it gets funny. So Jack Joyce says to Mark Zuckerberg,
Starting point is 00:31:04 I go, we're eating the goat you killed? He said, yeah. I said, have you eaten goat before? He's like, yeah, I love it. I'm like, what else are we having? Salad? I said, where's the goat? It's in the oven. Then we waited for about 30 minutes. He's like, I think it's done now. We go in the dining room. He puts the goat down. It was cold. That was memorable. I don't know if it went back in the oven. I just ate my salad. I picture them having that conversation and then 30 minutes later, in that time that elapsed, nobody said anything.
Starting point is 00:31:31 They're just sitting there like, uh-huh. I'd believe it. Just imagine the sound of a fork scraping on a plate just pushing around the same piece of goat. Just sort of like, hmm. But he's loving it. Mark Wahlberg is using his hands oh man
Starting point is 00:31:46 it's it's a it's oh yeah what i call him walbert mark walbert i get them confused yeah bro if you've seen them with their shirts up goat delicious goat um yeah him just bare hand eating the fucking goat like oh it's more succulent than even i could have hoped so this is something that i knew he was planning to do. He made it a big New Year's resolution at the beginning of the year on Facebook. He was only going to eat stuff that he killed. Is that what he said? Yeah, for a whole year.
Starting point is 00:32:16 And that was sort of a wave for a little bit. People were butchering their own meat. Yeah, good for you. If you have the stomach for it. But with him, he's not butchering. He's knocking stuff out and then knifing it. So technically, he could find himself a hamburger pre-made down the street, stun it, knife it, and then he's like, I killed it.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yeah, what you're doing is not the actual butchery. You're just slaughtering. So I get the idea behind it. I think maybe if he had gone more with what you guys were talking about with like one day of doing it. Just one day. Just try it for one day. Right. Because then you have the sense of like, okay, this is what it is to take another thing's life.
Starting point is 00:32:57 And you're not outsourcing the guilt because you have that guilt on your consciousness. But if you're doing it for a full year and you're constantly doing it, like you're just getting better at it. Right. And like more callous about killing shit. You're practicing for whatever it is. And I'm sorry, this isn't like, it is to me less barbaric to just be a sharpshooter, one shot to the animal.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Right. Kill it with the gun and then butcher it so you can understand like what it takes and what a lot of other communities and cultures do where you're like using the whole animal like there is something so murdery versus killing right that he's like perfecting especially when it's described as he stuns it and then he knifed it that's what like the zodiac killer does you know what you like, what? But I mean, if anybody who's heard the smoked meats cut up of his, when he debuted
Starting point is 00:33:50 Facebook Live by introducing or inviting people into his backyard for some smoked meats, you know that he's a totally normal person. I think we have a quick clip of that. The wood chips up and then smoking meats
Starting point is 00:34:06 grilling grilling meats good smoky flavor smoke a brisket for like 12 hours you smoke lemon chicken smoke salmon you'll love it bison sirloin ribs and sausage so i'm looking forward to to that they taste doubly better when um when you hunted the animal yourself so what are you what are you guys making for dinner brisket and ribs. Brisket and ribs, I hope. Delicious. Sweet baby Ray's barbecue sauce. That is going on the ribs.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Okay, just stop there. Hold on. I can't get behind sweet baby Ray's barbecue sauce, you fucking lame. What is sweet baby Ray's? Sweet baby Ray's
Starting point is 00:34:37 is basic bitch barbecue sauce. It's like a sauce of lawns. Oh, really? Yes. It's a, yo, look. He also says
Starting point is 00:34:43 sweet baby Ray's like 20 times like it's some shit he just had flown in or something. Jesus Christ. It's a, yo, look. He also says Sweet Baby Ray's like 20 times. Like it's some shit he just had flown in or something. Jesus Christ. It's the number one ingredient in that barbecue sauce is corn syrup. Yeah. It's not good. And I guess for me, like my grandfather, he's a great barbecue grill person.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And I always grew up with like learning how to make your own barbecue sauce. Yeah, now you sound like a real barbecue head. I'm a barbecue fucking snob. Calling him a great barbecue grill person? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if I'm a fucking smoker. You know what I mean? Yo, real talk, though.
Starting point is 00:35:14 When the Raiders were in L.A., my grandfather catered all their motherfucking practices. Oh, shit. Yeah, because the Raiders were like, I only eat Warren's barbecue. Oh, for real? Yo, he used to do Ronnie Lott's turkey. He did Art Shell's turkey for Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:35:27 All right. Okay. So take that. Miles has the coolest family ever. Anyway, so when I hear Sweet Baby Ray's, like, man, I get angry at people if they're like, hey, we're going to have some ribs and stuff. And they have Sweet Baby Ray's. I feel like I need to call the barbecue police on them.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Well, it gets at the thing that I find creepy about his practice of killing his own meat is that like, so back in biblical times, like there were animal sacrifices where you would have a pet essentially that you raised and you like loved and then you would sacrifice it to the gods and eat that. And like, that's a thing where you actually have a connection and you respect the life of the thing that you're. But he's eating like a modern American. He's eating as much meat as we eat.
Starting point is 00:36:10 He's just killing it all. He's just murdering the shit out of it and then putting terrible barbecue sauce on it like a normal American. It's just a serial killer approach to, you know. Hey, I got to work my way up to human, man. So I'm going to start with these goats. I wonder if he was really like showing off towards the end of the year, like you say, like he was getting good at it. He's like, watch this.
Starting point is 00:36:33 No look. I'll fucking, I'll tape the knife to the ground right here and I'll stun it. It's going to fall right on the fucking knife, dude. Right, right. Yeah, I'm thinking of the most dangerous game. Yes. Like let's lure a bunch of friends to an island. I can just picture his face as he makes the kill.
Starting point is 00:36:50 And just like the, I don't know. Oh, like his O-face? Yeah, like his O-face. Or just his weird. I just picture that a lot. I'm sorry that I brought that up. Mark Zuckerberg's O-face. I have a feeling it's like a version of what an alien thinks it would have to do to have an O face where it's like, oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Oh, thank you. All right. Yesterday on TDZ, we talked about Trump claiming in a letter to Nancy Pelosi that there were no security concerns with putting the entire line of command of our entire nation in a single room without a remotely fully staffed security service. So Nancy Pelosi responded to that by saying, you can't do it here. I mean, you can do it wherever you want. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here, basically. And Trump proved he is the negotiator in chief by totally buckling immediately. It was just like, okay, I guess I won't do it. Okay, I'll do it from the Hobby Lobby parking lot. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:47 And it's interesting because, you know, I like to keep an eye on Drudge and there is one conservative columnist who's like, yeah, Trump's winning this negotiation. But you really don't get, first of all, the whole like delaying the State of the Union story just disappeared the second he agreed to it.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Because they do not want the appearance of weakness. They don't want the headline, Nancy Pelosi flexes dick on Trump's head. All over that head. And homeboy just takes his ball and goes home. Right, just sort of like, mom made me come home. Just sort of, mom canceled my party. I'm home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Just sort of mom made, you know, cancel my party. Yeah. Well, I just think he didn't, like, he has not worked on any other tactics or plans now that, you know, she's the house speaker. Like, he has just no idea because all of those tactics worked when the power was in, you know, the GOP. And it's just like, oh, this is a woman who's just like, no. Yeah. He's like, but.
Starting point is 00:38:43 What do I do? Yeah. He was really bad at this game on, like, this is a woman who's just like, no. Yeah. And he's like, but. What do I do? But. Yeah, he was really bad at this game on, like, super easy mode. And now it just, like, went to hard mode. And he doesn't really know how to deal. Yeah. And you see the cracks in, like, when you have been able to surround yourself with everyone who's a yes man and a stooge. And you are just so quickly exposed for not actually being good at anything. Right. When you're actually being, you know, checked. Yeah. Right. And you have just so quickly exposed for not actually being good at anything when you're actually being checked.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Yeah. Right. And you have some adversity. anything about the wall security or building of the wall and just funds the government for a while independent of Trump's negotiating tactics. And meanwhile, the top story on Fox News, so the way Fox News covered this was, well, here are some other State of the Unions that were delayed or didn't happen at all. So no big deal, guys, nothing to see here. Don't worry, Pelosi didn't win. Hey, look at this number one politics story. So the number one story on their political page is Lindsey Graham zings Ocasio-Cortez says she's hellbent on making Americans live as Venezuelan socialists.
Starting point is 00:39:55 That's the best they can come up with is just that. God, they are so obsessed with. Why are you so obsessed with me? Yeah. I mean, I love that their pivot is like fucking uh something about aoc getting right zinged yeah zinged just she said a mean thing about her i they again it just shows you sort of the lack of real substantive things they can actually get around to motivate their base that they just have to go back to like playground stuff
Starting point is 00:40:22 yeah well that yeah and that's essentially what it is, is just sort of like, we have such a big crush on her. So we're going to throw rocks at her head. Yes. Cause like, we don't understand how to negotiate. We also are just immature and terrible privileged, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:36 wasps power for a long time. And we, again, like have not had women who are younger women of color, women of different generations, uh, telling us what to do and calling our shit. Like it's wild. Well, because now like that millennials are entering the political sphere like in waves now. They're starting to see like, yeah, hi, we're pissed off because you guys racked up all this debt for who?
Starting point is 00:41:02 For what? Right. Because you guys racked up all this debt for who? For what? Right. So I can pay for the fucking bill and have everything else unavailable to me in terms of things like an education or home ownership and things like that? Okay. Well, here it comes.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Right. And we're not so irrationally scared of communism because we didn't grow up during the Cold War. So we will take better lives over being called commies. Well, and you're thinking about this too. It's like now you've got this huge generational divide. Like it's really going from people in their 80s to people who are 30 years old, you know, like Katie Hill, like 31.
Starting point is 00:41:33 And they've got the same job description. And it's sort of like you getting to call your grandparents shit. Right. And it's like, you're like, we all work together now. Yeah. And the shit you've done. They're like, wow, this is how you were running it? Right.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Oh, shit. Oh, my God. Grandpa, we got to put you in a home. together now and the shit you've done they're like wow this is how you were running it right oh shit grandpa we gotta put you in a home oh my your office stinks are you washing that's always a tough time when like shit starts just falling apart the dishes are like in the drawers but they're like
Starting point is 00:41:59 not washed exactly let's talk Venezuela real quick guys sounds really dark for you. Sorry, man. No, hey, man, we all have aging family members. That's right. To realize it's unavoidable. Yeah. So Venezuela is an absolute shit show. Huh? Yep. Moving on. All right. No, actually, back at Cracked a couple years ago, we interviewed a dude who lived in their capital city in a nice single-family home, middle-class neighborhood. In Caracas? They were starving to the point that he had to use a machete and crossbow to fight off looters who were trying to steal the mangoes out of his two mango trees.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Because nobody had any other way of feeding themselves. Like nobody had any other way of feeding themselves. It was just, it was like zombie apocalypse style, just crazy shit going on. Like the society was dissolving. And turns out that's not super sustainable, the zombie wastelandocracy or whatever. And after a highly disputed election where the incumbent managed to win. Highly disputed. Let's just say a sham fucking election.
Starting point is 00:43:10 There is now a leadership crisis. The U.S. has backed a gentleman with the last name Guaido. Guaido. Guaido. Guaido. Yeah. And Russia is backing Maduro, who is the current leader and architect of all this bullshit. And yeah, it's not going well. Russia yesterday threatened America that, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:30 don't intervene militarily or there will be hell to pay. Something about like a bloodbath. Yeah, something. Bloodshed or something. I think they mentioned blood in particular, which that's scary. Maybe it means something else in Russian. Yeah, probably. But, yeah, I mean, like, look, when you look at sort of what's gone down and what Bandura's been
Starting point is 00:43:48 doing, you know, he basically stacked their Supreme Court with his own people who then, like, used their power from the judiciary to strip as much power and influence from the National Assembly. And then from there, it just got worse and worse and worse and worse and you know it's it's a weird situation that the u.s is in because yeah there are other countries who also support uh guido or recognize him as the interim president or you know the leader for now the other countries that don't they're also in the game too turkey is also like well we bang with maduro so is bolivia uh i think mexico is also in the same boat. But it's a very, you know, it's a weird situation because now what we're looking at is like,
Starting point is 00:44:29 what, are we going to start fucking around in Central and South America again? Right. You know, because that doesn't resonate very well with the people down there. Chile. So it's a very, very delicate situation. I don't know how Maduro is going to resign because he does have the military backing him. And they back him because they're able to make money and he's able to keep them comfortable based on the way he's sort of just gutting the country. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:55 So there's always going to be people with the incentive to keep the current power structure in place. And usually those will be very powerful people already. So, yeah, it's it's a mess there does seem to be this sort of global divide between like countries who have embraced western civilization and then russia and you know those who embrace corruption and autocracy and you know all the all that shit and it just feels weird that we're backing the side that trump would clearly not side with that's what i'm just i'm like catching up on some of these headlines and i'm like this does he seems more aligned with maduro right right you know every instinct that we've come to see from him would seem to suggest that he would identify with Maduro.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Well, I'm pulling this quote right here from a New York Times article with Maduro claimed, I am the only president of Venezuela. Mr. Maduro said, we do not want to return to the 20th century of gringo interventions and coup d'etat. Yeah. You're like, that's so Trumpy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's, I mean, he's still the U.S. though, you know, and that's regime change has been a thing that the U.S. likes to fuck with. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's I mean, he's still the U.S., though, you know, and that's regime change has been a thing that the U.S. likes to fuck. Yeah. And so and like also you have Marco Rubio out here. He's definitely been one of the most vocal opponents of Maduro in the Senate.
Starting point is 00:46:15 So I don't know. Maybe this is a way for them to create a like false tension with Russia. Yeah. You see, you see what's going on. If was really with, with Putin, I would be like, yeah, I'm a doer all day. Right. But I'm Guido. You know, it's also interesting to me that it's like, Hey, uh, Trump, uh, you know, I know we, America gets involved in, in global relations, but it's like, how about we focus on like, uh, the meddling that we won't admit to in America and like, not, no, I know. I mean, I know that's a stupid.
Starting point is 00:46:46 I know, I know. But it's like we're meddling when we won't pay attention to our own country being like very meddled with. Let's do some meddling of our own. You know? Gold meddling, meddling. Meddlers be meddling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Meddler on the roof. But he's a real bet meddler. There we go. I mean, again, just the the other thing just when looking at venezuela i mean it is a it's a legit humanitarian crisis because i think three million people have left yes in the last few years and people are starving to death yes and that is also like it has a destabilizing effect on everything else so this isn't a thing that can be ignored either no but yeah trying to walk down the path of like oh well
Starting point is 00:47:25 if he's not going to resign do we then physically remove it that's where we start also like our government's shut down right now you know and it's just like why take any vote of confidence from the u.s at this point either it's just like oh but here let us help out uh no our country's on fire it's just you know it's just it's just a little bro. This is an extremely complicated situation for a functioning government to deal with. Right. We do not have one of those. So it's interesting because we've also seen that Trump likes to use foreign policy as
Starting point is 00:47:58 a distraction. So this has been another story to smoke bomb the news cycle with to get people talking about like, Oh God, Venezuela, like what are we going to do? Like, Oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:48:07 maybe Trump is right about this one thing. Very in a very myopic sense. Yeah. I mean, but like you said, there is a humanitarian crisis there, but there has been a humanitarian crisis there since, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:19 that dude was fighting bandits off from his mango tree three years ago. And this is the first we're saying anything about it. So, all right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.
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Starting point is 00:52:14 This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And there's been some interesting statements coming out of Washington with regards to people who are furloughed and can't feed their family. Yeah, because the GOP, I mean, not that they ever really gave a fuck about regular people,
Starting point is 00:52:49 but I mean, the shutdown is really underlining this fact that it's a party of rich boomers, baby boomers, who only surround themselves with rich boomers, who only give a fuck about rich white boomers. Yep. And that's it. And from a policy level, they say, oh, we love the troops. We honor the troops. Then how come the Coast Guard brass are in videos nearly violating their agreements
Starting point is 00:53:12 of not having politically charged statements, of being like, we have to open the government. This is a disgrace. I have people working that are not being paid. They're having to go to food banks. What is this? Why are we doing this? What is going on here?
Starting point is 00:53:26 And again, you'd think for all the shit that's talking about supporting the troops, ironing troops, people who are in the military and any kind of armed forces or military service, we're not doing right by them. Republicans constantly talk about, you know, if you want to make America great again, not in the, you know, sense of just,
Starting point is 00:53:42 you know, brown people knowing their place and white people being the exalted part of the community or population, and actually rebuilding the middle class or trying to get that foothold when you could have a job, any job, and support a family. But yet, all we see are tax cuts to the wealthy. And now with the shutdown, we're at that point where it's the painful part of the shutdown has landed on the shores. Before it was easy to obscure like an eight day shutdown. Yeah. Usually the news story during a shutdown is the national parks are closed.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Right. It's like tourists can't go to the national parks. But now that it's a record breaking shutdown and that people have missed two paychecks. Yes. Well, you missed two paychecks, and then I'm also thinking of dead of winter for certain parts of this country where that means power shut off. That also means anything to not paying my mortgage, and now we're talking of people starting to destroy credit that's already – you're not set up for success in this country to begin with. Like it's having real implications and real effects on people. And like we thought the only headline for a minute that was going to get anyone's attention was lessened safety at airports.
Starting point is 00:54:56 And it's like, no, it's becoming more than that. Most people can't miss one payday. Now they're going on two full cycles of not getting their paycheck. payday. Now they're going on two full cycles of not getting their paycheck. And that is just so unrealistic when the average household does not have savings for emergency because we don't pay enough people a living wage. And then so when you're already working on that pay scale and then now you're not getting paid. What are you supposed to do? Because I think, you know, it just shows, again, this disconnect that the party has with actual America, not just the rhetorical version where it's like, well, we're on the same team in the culture war, rather than the human beings who have to get their ass out of bed,
Starting point is 00:55:34 go to a job, put in time, come back and have money to be able to support your family or, you know, stimulate the economy or whatever. first and foremost to just survive yeah and i mean they've been relying on the culture war thing so much that they've been able to just get completely out of touch with right the rest of like america right and at this point too like when you go back to what most voters want you know there is like basic uh human decency for a living wage you know know, some sort of access to healthcare. So now I've also heard another effect too is people who have like government funded rehab, recovery, like where they need their treatment
Starting point is 00:56:16 and medications for the opioid crisis that's happening. People can't get their treatment. So now we've also got the possibility of people who are making headway with this like manufactured drug crisis now backsliding and not having anyone to lean on. I mean, people are flooding. There's no room for anyone to go get the medication they need to get out of this hellhole. Right. So then, you know, Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross. Does he have a solution for us? Yeah yeah I don't even know
Starting point is 00:56:46 This guy looks like Someone who held on to the ring of power For too long He looks so He's literally from another time and dimension Where he goes on CNBC When they ask him about the shutdown And the economy
Starting point is 00:57:02 He's like look if you actually take 800,000 people And why does i feel bad for them right oh and we're the money we're talking about here is only a fraction of one percent of the gdp so you know there's it's just a blip and it's not it's not anything real because but he because he doesn't know anybody who's a working person right so then the host on cnbc is like what yeah it's like i'm not talking about the gdp like what i'm talking about people who like actually have real there are real world ramifications for this bullshit and this is what he says mr secretary there are reports that there are some federal workers who are going to homeless shelters to get food well i, I know they are, and I don't really quite understand why.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Because, as I mentioned before, the obligations that they would undertake, say, borrowing from a bank or a credit union, are, in effect, federally guaranteed. So the 30 days of pay that some people will be out, there's no real reason why they shouldn't be able to get a loan against it i'm sorry i'm what i was asleep what the fuck is he talking about yeah i mean that is basically the most almost literal translation of let them eat cake like into financial terms of just like a
Starting point is 00:58:27 a hundred millionaire being like why don't you go just go get a loan against all the equity you have you don't uh i okay a heat and this is just what's so fucking just disturbing right is? Is that they're at the levers at the moment. Not to say the Democrats also don't have an anti-working people agenda, too, on some level. But, like, when you have the Secretary of Commerce just astronomically out of touch with reality, that he's like, I don't understand. Right. What is the—you just get a loan from your uncle. You go dip into the money in your shell company. Go to your lucky penny loafers.
Starting point is 00:59:10 You should have put an old T-bond in there for $10,000. You can go to, like, what is, again, it's just very, very sad to see. And I feel like Democrats have to hammer this into people's heads going to the election they're like they have ceded their position as a party that just that gives just any kind of a fuck about people absolutely i mean like their whole thing they're all lockstep just for this fucking wall at this cost and i think that's why some people i think you know people like cory gardner who are Republican senators, are starting to come around
Starting point is 00:59:46 because they're like, this is fucked. And also, I don't know if he's worried about his election too, but you know. But yeah, generally there is no, it's just numbers, statistics. They don't care about actual stories
Starting point is 00:59:57 and individuals, but the whole not letting someone have a paycheck because you're having a fight, it's like the optics are just, they're not gonna, they're not gonna, they're not gonna win out on the GOP side. They just aren't.
Starting point is 01:00:08 And as much as Trump and the GOP want to try and, you know, these mealy mouth sort of like we're putting an offer on the table. That's just so ridiculous. But especially when it's like, you are the one who took away, you know, DACA citizenship and you're going to give it back for a few years.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Like that's wild. I said it. Oh, my God. But that's how I feel. Buzzword. But I just don't think the rhetoric that the Democrats have been giving every opportunity to open the government, it's just not working. Well, and they just voted on some legislation to help that, and they failed.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Right. And they knew it would. Right. And maybe people are saying maybe this will be a beginning, a first step to getting something together that will pass. The first step should have been people not being cool with weaponizing a shutdown as a fucking chess piece in your legislative game. Yeah, let's hold the middle-class Americans hostage
Starting point is 01:01:01 in our pissing contest. Yeah. Yeah. Well, speaking of the middle of America. Yeah. Costco has a plan, you guys. They might be stepping into the streaming arena. This is wild.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Yeah. So this media exec, Mark Greenberg, apparently has been shopping an idea around for a Netflix that speaks to the forgotten American. Apparently he's been shopping an idea around for like a Netflix that speaks to the forgotten American. You know, the people in flyover country in the Midwest that don't have the taste for hoity-toity shows like Stranger Things or Homecoming or The Ranch. You know what I mean? What's The Ranch? The Ranch is that fucking Ashton Kutcher show that was made for people who don't like, who don't fuck with Black Mirror. It was made for people who don't fuck with Black Mirror.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Yeah. Anyway, so Greenberg was working with Walmart on a very similar thing because they're like, we need to team up with a brand that Middle America inherently just trusts. Right. And we'll not think about the destruction of mom and pop stores. Right. So they figure Walmart is good. But then Walmart's like, no, I think we're all in on Vudu, that paid streaming platform. I think they have something to do with Vudu.
Starting point is 01:02:08 So they passed on it. Yeah. So now Greenberg is talking with Costco because that's sort of like the other very familiar brand to anyone in America. Right. But also Walmart's arch nemesis. Right. So just thinking of like, yes, get into this, because I think a lot of it has to do with the idea that Netflix, they feel like there's been, although there has been huge subscriber growth, it's happening in like other countries. The subscription growth in the US is starting to
Starting point is 01:02:34 kind of flatten out. And I think that is where these people say like, oh, okay. So they've done peak coastal urban or like metropolitan market penetration. what about these other state like what about these other places is there is there another market that we're just not tapped into right so i don't know what kind of programming that they have will be maybe it'll be you know more mike huckabee specials uh the leather special with mike huckabee oh yeah we need to get we need to get back to uh i tried huck i tried watching it and i've i almost had a fucking meltdown because we were uh watching mike huckabee's show last week and punching up some of his jokes did you know he has a late night show now i would uh well i told you i just stopped drinking so i don't think
Starting point is 01:03:17 i should yeah yeah watch it so i'm more like on solid self-care is actually not watching mike huckabee there we go yeah that like and i mean that uh but yeah i think that's where the market is where they still feel that and i think you know there was like a study where a majority of people uh like in middle america felt that the media does not actually functionally understand what how they live yeah or what their life is like no for sure it's an interesting thesis i mean because c because CBS has an audience, you know? And CBS is one of the networks that kind of caters to more middle American viewers, but, you know, there's not, CBS doesn't have some, like, great streaming platform or something that they're getting people to buy into. No. And I mean, like, I was on a show for a couple years that just got canceled this week.
Starting point is 01:04:04 It's okay. But like True TV is also kind of like the high quality network that like, I'm sorry. It's like Middle America watches True TV. Right. What they're doing in my mind where I'm like, I feel like Adam Conover's show, which is so great. Like people really enjoy it. But I think he's about like where Middle America tops out just because he's like deb because he's debunking things and he's got an ascot on and whatever.
Starting point is 01:04:29 And I love all that about Adam, but I think that's who watches TV. Yeah. No, it's an interesting thesis. It'll be interesting to see if Costco has the stomach for it. Kirkland, though, look, they got their shine in baskets. Right. though you know look they got their their shine in baskets right so costco has already entered the the media sphere as far as i'm concerned with louis anderson buying all kirkland everything my god i mean it is beloved everywhere costco oh honestly i might fuck if it was called kirkland
Starting point is 01:04:57 flicks or some shit i would be like i kind of have to see what's going on here. Have you guys ever had a Kirkland signature hangover? Yes. What do they have? Oh, just a big-ass bottle of silver tequila. It's like if you're throwing a big get-together, you do not shell out for top brands. You go to Costco and you get what they have. Same people making it, just different bottle.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Possibly. From the same makers. But I am responsible for- That hangover disagrees. Yeah. Possibly. From the same makers. But I am responsible for- That hangover disagrees. Yep. Yeah. Oh, I love the light beer. We call them Kirkland Spices, but they're just Kirkland light beer.
Starting point is 01:05:32 It's so aggressively generic. Unit price comes out to about 48 cents a can. Hey. Wow. Yeah. Get that Kirkland light, just swill beer. Well, Brooke, it has been a pleasure having you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Where can people find you? On Twitter, BVP Comedy. I'm sometimes active, sometimes very silent. Yeah, it ebbs and flows. It ebbs and flows, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:55 when I've got the emotional capacity. Instagram is at BrookeVP and SideWork Podcast is at SideWork Podcast and hopefully iTunes will onboard us. Right. We'll get to the bottom of that.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Thank you. Will you send your people? I'll talk to my people over there. Thank you. Yeah. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Well, okay. I'll say this.
Starting point is 01:06:18 It's a little timely. Something that made me LOL really, really hard on Tuesday after a group of us who all do stand-up comedy found out that the very very talented and amazing kevin barnett had passed very tragically and suddenly um this comedy club in new york city which i am also not a fan of broke the news uh of his death
Starting point is 01:06:39 and uh it's well known that kevin does not performing there, you know, didn't really love the proprietors per se. And our friend Nick Turner, who is the best, tweeted, Kevin hated the stand. Just like, fuck off. Yeah, just within hours of, you know, it was just like someone needed some comic relief. And it's always a weird thing to be like, what do we say? And how do we make light of this? Because we are all comedians, but this is so nuts and right you know but i that was just such like a oh god comedy is a savior sometimes you know yeah miles where can people find you find me follow me on twitter and
Starting point is 01:07:16 instagram at miles of gray a couple tweets i like one is from james fritz at fritz is dead it says um actually there's a third fire fest doc that shows the rich magatines helping the people on the island. I love Fritzy. And then another one is from Reductress, as usual. It says, did you know your nipple is the same size as your butthole? I know because I've tried. That's like this very, this woman with this really confident look on her face. They are indestructible.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Reductress is the best thing right now on Twitter. Just cranking out the hits. I mean, nearly every episode, I'm always shouting out the Reductress writing staff. A tweet I enjoyed. At Libya Liberty tweeted... Libya Liberty, Liberty. A terrorist plot was uncovered thanks to a New York citizen
Starting point is 01:08:06 who saw something and said something, but there won't be as much media interest about the story as you'd expect. And then she's replying to a Slate story, four young men arrested and charged in an apparent terrorist plot against Muslim community in upstate New York. But yeah, you didn't see that reported very many places. And then I have to give it out to a former guest, Vanessa Gritton.
Starting point is 01:08:30 She tweeted, my fire fest was my ninth birthday where no one showed up because my mom forgot to mail out the invitation but said that she did, and I took turns hitting the piñata by myself. Well, how do you take turns hitting it by yourself? Like you rest it? Right, you take a rest. Well, how do you take turns hitting it by yourself?
Starting point is 01:08:46 Like you rest it? Right, you take a rest. Pat, pat, pat. All right. Vanessa, you're next. Thank you, Vanessa. Her birthday's coming up in February. Find out her Venmo and hit her up.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Yeah. Let's send her to Fyre Fest. Yes. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to
Starting point is 01:09:12 the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we write out on Miles. What's that going to be? This is a song from Yamazaki Hako, which is a Japanese vocalist from back in the day. And this song in sort of phonetic katakana is written as, Help me.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Help me. Because we need help right now. And also, it's just a very, very nice moody song for this weekend. All right, guys. Have a great weekend. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back on Monday. When will Taki get done? I'm trying to get up and walk I love it, so I shout In my heart, I shout to myself
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