The Daily Zeitgeist - Will AI End Spoilers? FB Records Your Secrets 8.15.19

Episode Date: August 15, 2019

In episode 454, Jack and Miles are joined by Ridiculous History and Stuff They Don't Want You To Know's Ben Bowlin to discuss Trump's years long pettiness towards people, Facebook being shady as usual..., Chernobyl 2.0, Jeffrey Epstein updates, the anti-spoiler A.I., Arizona Iced Tea getting into cannabis, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. DONALD TRUMP AND VANITY FAIR'S GRAYDON CARTER HAVE BEEN FEUDING FOR DECADES2. Facebook Paid Contractors to Transcribe Users’ Audio Chats3. Facebook plans to launch 'GlobalCoin' currency in 20204. Russia says rocket explosion caused 16-fold radiation spike5. CHERNOBYL COMPARISONS SPARKED BY SECRECY AROUND DEADLY RUSSIAN NUCLEAR ROCKET BLAST: 'WE GOT A MINI-FUKUSHIMA RIGHT BESIDE US AND THEY PRETENDED NOTHING SCARY HAPPENED'6. EXCLUSIVE: Ghislaine Maxwell's respectable new life: Jeffrey Epstein's long-time consort and the alleged procurer of his underage victims has been living with 43-year-old tech CEO at his secluded $3M oceanfront mansion outside of Boston7. The Day Jeffrey Epstein Told Me He Had Dirt on Powerful People8. Hate spoilers? This AI tool spots them for you9. Arizona Iced Tea Will Finally Get Into the Weed Business10. WATCH: Karriem Riggins - Double Trouble Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever
Starting point is 00:01:28 you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 95, Episode 4 of Their Daily Zeitgeist! Yeah! A production of iHeart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness
Starting point is 00:02:14 and say officially off the top, fuck coke industries and also Fox News. It's Thursday, August 15th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. OutJackTakeHouse. No fools, just zeit. That's courtesy of Crispy Meme Donut. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! He's got a weed pad hanging on each arm. He's got the bomb that works with gravity blazing he's got his
Starting point is 00:02:47 boner pills and garbage fast food takes on the zeitgeist for the good of the nation miles and jack try to stop confusion tdz is the no solution Wow. Dude, I love that little sax sample. Anyway, you know what? Someone hit the exact today too. Oh, yeah? Because that was also Christy Yamaguchi Main,
Starting point is 00:03:23 a.k.a. Crispy Meme Donut. I had a feeling. Yeah. Yeah. So good. Yeah, I mean, people are just, the AKs are getting dialed in more and more. We may just have to do a record of AKs.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Charity record, for sure. I'll be the skit, the interstitials. And you'll be the character mad podcaster? Yes. Well, we are thrilled to be joined by the hilarious and talented podcast host. Not a mad podcaster. Just a great podcaster, Mr. Ben Bolin,
Starting point is 00:03:54 a.k.a. my man, Ben Bolin. Oh, my God. Guys, I got a second date. This is my second time appearing on this daily zeitgeist. And now you're here. What's up, man? And now we're in person. I know a lot of people were fooled by the slick Photoshop job Anna did on the promo photos.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And they're like, whoa. I was fooled. She's a magician, folks. Deep fakes. Honestly, you guys, I was flummoxed. I was like, where the fuck was I that day? Did I black out? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I don't know. I got to call my doctor. It happened again, again doc speaking of deep fakes did you see the uh deep fake where bill hater turns into tom cruise yes that's fucking that is creepy man i guess wait i guess that's the the new level of celebrity notoriety we we know we've popped when we are deep fakeaked yeah yeah for people who haven't seen it it's bill hater doing impressions of tom cruise and who else uh al pacino and he turns into them when he does it and it's kind of subtle and it's yeah because you're like shape-shifting's real
Starting point is 00:04:57 right yeah yeah uh but if any listeners are really sick with the deep face let us know and then maybe i'll send you a clip and you can get me saying all kinds of stuff but i'm already saying all kinds of wild shit on here so good luck there's enough footage or enough audio of us saying just everything that people could edit well we mentioned all kinds of problematic stuff right like racist groups that like sometimes you know what honestly to me nazis are lit like wait well hold on how do you well ben we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we are gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today uh we have another good example of trump's mailing habits uh we're gonna talk about how facebook is fucking you just yet another
Starting point is 00:05:43 way add some texture to all the many ways they're fucking you. We're going to talk about Chernobyl 2.0. We have an update there. A lot of updates. We're going to talk about what the Democratic field is looking like on the latest polling and who might run for VP. And we're just going to check in with the Jeffrey Epstein story. All of that and plenty,
Starting point is 00:06:06 plenty more on today's Daily Zeitgeist. But first, Ben, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, man. Okay. So my answers, I'm a little better prepared today. All right. My answers are going to be weirdly consistent. Quesadillas. I went really deep into this quesadilla thing. I am emotionally involved with it. I have like three feelings a year, and one of them right now is quesadillas.
Starting point is 00:06:33 So if you looked at my search history, what you would see, despite various things we all Google all the time, on both mobile or a laptop or whatever, I'm weirdly into quesadillas. Like I formed online friendships with some people over the past three weeks and it's all we fucking talk about are you serious i am very serious well i mean i look i'm not gonna shade the quesadilla i love a quesadilla
Starting point is 00:06:57 thank you man thank you what is it that you looked at and you and you is it just the simplicity of it? I think so. And also, as you guys know, I am based in Atlanta. I'm from Atlanta. And one of the things that I love about the city is a long time ago, I figured out the way to be most innocuous, the way to be the most of the place you're in, is to just be casually eating something while you're walking around and a and a quesadilla like a small quesadilla right i have a design right which i will not share right now but uh design thank you it's like a one-handed thing i don't know it ties
Starting point is 00:07:37 into my so like one of my big dreams has always been you know how there's big political speeches and there are a bunch of people have to awkwardly stand behind the person and occasionally like subtly nod without taking focus. Yeah. I want to be that guy. And halfway through, I either want to take out like a pocket quesadilla. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And still like nod with gravitas. And I have also put my invisible face down. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I committed. I will also then in my search history have a lot of footage. This is literally me trying to find the right phrase for important person standing, people behind them.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Right. Quesadilla. Quesadilla. Yeah. So that's where I'm at. What's the secret to a good quesadilla in your opinion? Since you have such a strong opinion on quesadillas. I do have a strong opinion. I must know. I'm not opinion? Since you have such a strong opinion on quesadillas.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I do have a strong opinion. I'm not an expert, but I have a strong opinion. I like that. All right. So I think, well, there's the flour v. corn debate, right? Where do you fall? You know, I got to tell you, I'm going flour, and I feel terrible. Well, yeah, you know, you have to. I honestly think a quesadilla, it has to be flour.
Starting point is 00:08:47 If it's like a mulita or something, which is a little bit closer, then it has to be corn. But I feel like for the way I was introduced to quesadillas, which is through like gringo Mexican food. I don't know if the – are they making quesadillas with corn tortillas in Mexico? Is that the deal? Are there people who are like, like yo it has to be corn
Starting point is 00:09:05 because i've never heard i've never seen a quesadilla with corn tortilla i uh i made i made a few i've been doing some experiments and uh the the results are in guys yeah results are in flour better flour great it's flour for a reason yeah so vegans uh i'm interested i'm gonna try a vegan quesadilla uh next week i've got some, but yeah, I don't, we'll see. You've given yourself enough of a runway to build up to that. Thank you. Yeah. It is not a decision I've made lightly.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Yes. You've had this on the, on the calendar since late February. Yeah. Try vegan quesadilla. Yeah. Yeah. August.
Starting point is 00:09:40 What is something you think is overrated? You know what? In our previous episode, I said that I felt talking on the you think is overrated? You know what? In our previous episode, I said that I felt talking on the phone was largely overrated. Okay. Thank you guys for supporting that. Shout out to my mom.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Oh, yeah. Remember that? And I think you guys made a really good point about taking road trips and using that as an opportunity to catch up on phone calls. Right now, I have to say, I think networking is overrated.
Starting point is 00:10:08 But if I'm being honest, if I'm being honest, it's probably just because I'm very bad at it. Got it. Small talking, like getting to just meet new people. Is that what you mean by networking? Guys, Jack, I will small talk all day.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I love strangers. I never learned that lesson from childhood right but when i have to speak with people in like a a three minute window right and we have to convey like our journalistic w's right it's weird it's weird you know totally yeah that's a very special skill i'm also not good at that And it's funny because we are at a convention right now. Right, we're at a networking convention. Yeah. Pull back the curtain.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Well, we pulled back the curtain yesterday because, well, look, we're recording live in a hotel room right now, okay? The curtain is back. With a great view of the pool. Great view of the pool and Lazy River, and we'll just leave it at that. Water slide. But, yeah, there were moments I forgot, you know, we were seeing Anna at her panel, and then I'm walking around the floor, and then, like, someone, like, just randomly came yeah there was like there were moments i forgot you know we were seeing anna
Starting point is 00:11:05 at her panel and then i'm walking around the floor and then like someone like just randomly came up and was like hey how you doing i'm blah blah blah and i was like what the fuck dude yeah and i forgot i'm like right this is a networking environment in my mind i was like well we have to do on these panels and other stuff we have to record the show and i was caught off guard a little bit but then i realized you know what now it's time to give back. Right. And by give back, I mean just treat the person like a human who asked me a question rather than be like, what?
Starting point is 00:11:31 Are you weird or something, dude? Dude, what do you want, dude? What the fuck are you selling? Nothing. I'm this guy. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm from the city, and I'm very cynical. Without disclosing specifics,
Starting point is 00:11:42 I was walking by earlier today uh through this this big people area hangout area whatever and uh i did hear someone mid small talk or mid networking say so uh what what's your thing that's a weird way to appreciate yeah yeah it's like hey what's this what's your whole thing about so if i said if i said that to somebody in the course of a conversation i would like spend many nights like cringing thinking back about having said that but i bet that person was just like yeah but that's part of networking and that's why i get to why you say it's like you don't like it because you're bad at it but like when you have an opportunity especially to be around a bunch of people because like if you're isolated in some other city that doesn't have a robust like
Starting point is 00:12:28 media industry true yeah like precisely coming to a you know convention or conference of people in that like you're gonna be like yeah you need to pick as many brains so if you see me out there please feel free to prick prick prick my brain pick my brain yes and for a few extra dollars you can prick my brain but uh let's just all meet And for a few extra dollars, you can prick my brain. But let's just all meet up and I'll give you the little advice I have. Yeah. Which is probably
Starting point is 00:12:50 only on like fast food. Definitely feel free to approach Miles. So many people are good at it though. Yes. I do want to say, I am in awe.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Yeah, when you see someone who's like just can small talk the fuck out of a room. They remember every face and every name and they're like, how's your pomeranian yankee doing right you know i'm baffled by them but i don't trust them yeah well people in sales right they're like they're just a few clicks away from being a murderer there's a jedi thing yeah yeah it's like and if it if it was evil they'd be like oh yeah i stalk people yeah but they're like, no, I love money first.
Starting point is 00:13:25 So I learn these details about people. I close deals. What is something you think is underrated besides quesadillas? Thank you. Yeah, I see where that was going. Thank you. Yes. You know what?
Starting point is 00:13:35 I am going to say that I think, other than quesadillas, Jack. What else? You know what i mean i know right let me look through my notes like open mic stand up uh i you know what i gotta say i think that uh you can also say quesadillas oh shit really yeah don't give him an out he's got a brain on him oh thanks miles uh i you know i think that i i've switched sides i was very very anti minivan for a long time as you guys know i used to host a car show and i i just hated minivans they were like professionally in the way on the road but i sat in one recently and my god yeah the game's changed the game's changed hashtag ad which one we're in chrysler pacifica uh the which one did i hate no which one were you in oh i was in a uh i was in a town country you got it get out of my head who makes that uh chrysler yeah and i was like there's so many
Starting point is 00:14:41 cup holders in this weird rolling studio apartment yeah Yeah. My buddy has one, too. He has a young family. And he was like, yo, do you know how to get a van? And I'm like, but it's tight, dude. It's like a sick-ass van. It's like a Batmobile. It's like all the different things. And then he lives out of state, but he drove the van with his family somewhere.
Starting point is 00:15:00 And I was like, let me check out this van. Yeah. It's fucking nice. It was weird. It's a baller car i gotta say because like if it's if you have no family i think that's a really beautiful way for you to pull up with the homies like the the cool kids in a lot of high schools yeah they had some old van oh yeah they smoked weed in right and they're like well is airbrush van guy gonna
Starting point is 00:15:20 graduate probably not but we're gonna have a great great time along the way. Shout out to the van drivers at my school, Kyle White, who had an old Econoline van. He smoked weed out of there. Also, my friend Ty, he had a Ford Windstar. We used to absolutely do all kinds of illegal stuff inside of. Yeah, I really like a Ford Windstar though. Really miss that one. Yeah. My older sister's boyfriend used to uh drive around in a white minivan with lights underneath it oh wow the fucking underglow yeah what was it like at the top man it was just it was yeah oh wait just your sister the one i met yeah she was she was dating a guy with a fucking underglow kit on his minivan yes it had rims it had to have had rims yeah yeah oh wow what kind of van was like an astro i forget yeah the sound
Starting point is 00:16:13 system yeah yeah of course yeah oh yeah yeah dude he ended up uh becoming president getting in a shootout with the police oh my god in the van i don't know actually i think he stole a car i don't care about his life what happened to the van dude where's the fucking van is that for sale yeah yeah you know what kind of mileage it had ben what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false uh i think it is uh I think it's false to, okay, again, not quesadillas. I think it is, I'll let it go, guys. I'll let it go.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I think it is false that people are unapproachable and we are often taught, especially in a place that like deifies celebrity or VIPs or capital capital i capital p important people i think um i i think that we are taught that these are somehow not people like everybody everybody you have ever met or ever will meet is a human from earth right uh allegedly unless you grew up like a billionaire right and i can argue you might be from a different dimension yeah and and it's strange because i've had conversations with people who are apparently big deals and i didn't recognize them and there's like some guy at the airport he's on the phone with his wife he's like bitching about how he feels bad and he's gonna fix up the deck and then he talks to me like briefly about like he's like oh hey women you know what i mean right i'm like all right all right fine
Starting point is 00:17:45 and that guy's cheech marin and yeah yeah and he was really nice yeah and i think it was because we didn't like there's no deification i know you guys right move in some pretty big circles you know it's funny dude yeah uh i went to school with cheech's nephew yeah what and uh yeah dude he's a chill dude and they have the sickest deck. Yeah. Check out Tres Papalote, his Mescal brand. Pretty fucking killer. What kind of van does he have? No van.
Starting point is 00:18:13 No van at all. No van at all. But his son is like a drum and bass DJ. It's kind of a funny. The family's very interesting. Yeah. I think the approach thing is something, too. I got over that very quickly doing, like, my old job, a lot of video work with celebrities. Where in my mind, I'm like, fuck, I'm going to have to, like, direct this or, like, have to explain a thing.
Starting point is 00:18:32 And people are like, you know, this person could be really mean. In your mind, you feel like you're going to go up and be like, hi, so-and-so. So this is what we're thinking. And the worst case scenario in your mind is like, get the fuck away from me. Right. But you realize, too, that you have to recognize everyone's sort of baseline humanity and everyone yeah is approachable and everyone's a nice well most people well i think as long as like you uh allow people to exist like we're we're always also surrounded
Starting point is 00:18:57 by a bunch of things that attempt to make us feel obligated to do a thing right right and uh the the fact of matter is there are very few situations wherein you are actually obligated to do a thing right right and uh the the fact of matter is there are very few situations wherein you are actually obligated to do a thing so i don't think like like picture anybody let's do some foreshadowing uh let's like picture someone who's both famous and shitty uh donald trump would be a great example even even that guy cannot obligate you to do stuff right and I'm not going to be glad handing and call him Donnie or something but if I use the restroom
Starting point is 00:19:31 the guy's there along with the other Secret Service people I imagine they all pee at the same time actually I know it's like it's like the main skill right you don't go unless I go I still think you know
Starting point is 00:19:44 they're just people and have the same hardwired physiological, oh gosh, I have to say constraints, like Dunbar's number and stuff. Wait, what's Dunbar's number? Is that the number of people that you can remember the face of? That you can actually know.
Starting point is 00:20:00 No. That are not like, and the number's around 150 or something. Right, yeah. Yeah, so I think about that a lot because if you're listening now, that are not like in the numbers around 150 or something. Yeah. So I think about that a lot because if you're listening now, how many Twitter friends do you have? How many Facebook friends, Instagram folks? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Speaking of presidents, Secret Service, and peeing, there's a story about Lyndon Johnson. Once he was in a meeting hall and just asked one of his Secret Service, he was having a conversation with someone that I guess he didn't want to cut off so he asked one of his secret service agents to move in front of him and pissed on the secret service agent while having a conversation
Starting point is 00:20:34 with the person while continuing to have the conversation he just pissed on the secret service agent on his leg LBJ and this other person are standing, another person creates a sandwich it's like a circle situation yeah it was basically he was like hey be the tree that i take a piss on right now so that i can keep talking to this person and was he like
Starting point is 00:20:55 looking at like yeah i think so well he was also tall so he yeah he was probably just looked over his head and all he said by way of explanation was it's my prerogative son yeah and that's what the bobby brown song is based on it's my prerogative is that oh my dad shot the album cover for that that makes sense the one where he's his back is to the camera yeah the black and white one and he's wearing like uh like leather chaps basically on his arms yeah what a time what a time to be alive oh. My wife and I actually recreated that picture for our wedding. Is that a true story? No. No, they didn't.
Starting point is 00:21:30 It was the Rolling Stones Janet Jackson cover. Right, exactly. With hands over the breasts. With my head poking around. No, it's Jack, and then she's holding your chest. That would be great. All right, quick follow-up from from yesterday because we talked about the fact that our president donald trump sent uh justin trudeau a just something he tore out of
Starting point is 00:21:53 a magazine and like scribbled on it with a sharpie dj b-rad on twitter uh pointed out this story that he says is his favorite example of Trump doing this. This is from Graydon Carter, who recently retired as the editor of Vanity Fair and started this magazine, Spy Magazine, that was the first place to make fun of Trump's hands. And Graydon Carter said, To this day, I receive the occasional envelope from Trump. There is always a photo of him, generally a tear sheet from a magazine. On all of them, he has circled his hand in gold Sharpie
Starting point is 00:22:29 in a valiant effort to highlight the length of his fingers. Bless you. God. So transparently insecure. It's such an easy way to troll him, like knowing that. It's like I would just send back
Starting point is 00:22:42 Photoshop things of him with like tiny little baby doll hands right i'm like i don't know this is actually the undoctored photo i got donald yeah oh god like i feel like that would just get so under his skin which is so fun to add some layers to yeah i'd be like be like send something with photoshop tiny hands and then say hey uh we we worked on uh making the hands just a little bit bigger than normal to make you feel a little bit bigger right and then show and then have like obama in a video with his hands slightly made even larger and yeah what did i would murder him what did he write to trudeau because i i read the story first was a thing from i think it was
Starting point is 00:23:23 bloomberg news or like one of those business magazines and on the cover it's trudeau and it says the anti-trump so he circles and he goes i hope not like and said that and the ambassador thought it was a prank right right and then he did another thing talking about trade deficits that was completely just cherry picking data to just say there was a deficit in one area, like in goods. But if you added trade and services, there was a surplus on the US side. Oh, boy. So then Trudeau sent back the real thing and it was just sort of very polite.
Starting point is 00:23:56 But yeah, you know, he likes to use what we call caveman Twitter. Right. Where it's like, I rip out sheet and then mail that to you. It's weird, though, because, you know, like, I'm not saying that I have not also wasted a morning or an afternoon, right? But I do not have, I'm going to confess this and just confirm the rumors are true. I do not have access to nuclear weapons. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:16 And I feel like when you're prioritizing your life based on shit like that. Right. It's amazing. It's unprecedented. It's terrifying. It's unprecedented. It's terrifying. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist
Starting point is 00:24:41 who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country
Starting point is 00:25:05 into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden.
Starting point is 00:25:32 We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do. Like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for
Starting point is 00:27:08 the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple
Starting point is 00:27:24 Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player
Starting point is 00:27:48 needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day and that's what
Starting point is 00:27:52 I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious.
Starting point is 00:28:03 She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the
Starting point is 00:28:20 Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. There's probably some weird noises coming in. We have a setup on a weird mic setup on a tiny coffee table. And you might hear thunder holy shit now it's raining it uh love seasons it storms apparently according to people who live in
Starting point is 00:28:52 orlando this time of year it storms between uh somewhere between like three ish or to six ish like clockwork great oh okay i'm into it yeah you know i mean i love weather just being in la where it's the two seasons are hot and not that hot yeah so it freaks me out i gotta i gotta be honest with you guys whenever la whenever i'm in la like the weather is always it's it's weird because time just stretches on you don't i i hadn't realized how much i counted on seasons to like break down when like a year had passed like just like subtly in the back of my mind but it's just one long expanse of sameness yeah anyways uh let's talk about facebook wow yeah let's pick it up yeah yeah so uh narc fucker turd is still up to his same bullshit um because we have a new high point in Mark Zuckerberg
Starting point is 00:29:46 nicknames. It used to be Nark Zuckerberg now I like Narkfucker turd. I like it. This news came out that apparently there are human beings transcribing people's audio messages from FB Messenger and this is from this article I think in the Wall Street Journal
Starting point is 00:30:01 it says Facebook Incorporated has been paying hundreds of outside contractors to transcribe clips of audio from users of its services. The work has rattled the contract employees who were not told where the audio was recorded or how it was obtained only to transcribe it. Then they're hearing Facebook users' conversations, sometimes with vulgar content, but do not know why Facebook needs them transcribed. content but do not know why facebook needs them transcribed their explanation is like we're just checking if the ai is actually like holding up to like when a human being is actually like listening to it that's why the whole thing's you know that's what that's what it is sure yeah um so when they were asked about it they they did confirm that they were doing it uh but they said uh it will no longer do so and they said this is weird This is where they like snitch on other companies.
Starting point is 00:30:46 They say, much like Apple and Google, we paused human review of audio more than a week ago. And then they said the people who like had their shit transcribed were those who opted to have their voice chats transcribed. But that didn't protect people who maybe the other party in a conversation may not have opted into it. It didn't matter right because that person had like opted in you just got to know not to talk to those people
Starting point is 00:31:09 also like fucking stop using facebook messenger yeah also i i wonder how that works because right uh legislation always lags behind technology right so in some states it's just like a one-party consent thing, right? Right, right. And also, I got to say, I wonder all the time how much Facebook's PR spent on the idea to just refer to the guy as Mark. Like whenever you read a public release, it's like he has no last name and I don't think your share status yet, bro. Right. It's weird. It's insidious. Also, you know, Facebook's coming out with a currency or attempting to yeah right i saw that yeah so that that could be bad right explain why thanks jack
Starting point is 00:31:52 i'll give it a swing first uh could you help me out with that uh nickname again well for this one let's call him nark buckerbergs yeah because he's making the bucks hey all right so the snitchery continues i think in that facebook is releasing various beating around the bush statements they want to create something called libra l-i-b-r-a and it will be a partnership with other companies such as like uber i think maybe one and the idea is it's virtual currency that is you know i don't know look i didn't write to him why would you not call him facebooks like that's the easiest lift right yeah because you to to make it sound super innocuous you want to give it a name like a foreign international assassin right it's a very james bond right yeah uh so this this is already raising a lot of uh concerns
Starting point is 00:32:47 uh primarily because there is a possibility that this would enable a private entity to function as a central bank right which is a big no-no uh as you guys know currency uh currency moves a lot of things, right? Right. From the fall of Libya to deciding whether or not to tip your Lyft driver. The song Cash Rules Everything Around Me. Great. Thank you. Get the money.
Starting point is 00:33:15 As the poet's Wu-Tang. Yeah. I mean, people have been saying just almost as a thought exercise, like comparing Google and Facebook to countries, both in terms of population and wealth and power but this like almost formalizes it a little bit it's like yeah yeah you don't need those other forms of currency they did something earlier a few years back i want to say 2009 2010 with a concept called facebook credits way less cool name bond villain wise but that got pulled pretty quickly the question is
Starting point is 00:33:47 not whether it will happen because i think it will be a real thing yeah the question is whether it will happen in a sustainable way whether it'll continue will it gain steam it's kind of like it's kind of like a centralized bitcoin without Without getting too into the weeds, I would say if you want the people who are transcribing your 3 a.m. you up nice ass messages, then if you want those people to also have their hand in your wallet another way, then go ahead and sign up. They're like, hey, you sure you want to leave the bank? Because let me just play this message back for you.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Hey, you're just, I'm going to fuck gonna fuck really bad you know just call me back it's like yeah we transcribed that yeah we also have the message after that where you're weeping yeah let's talk about uh what we've come to call here on the daily zeitgeist chernobyl 2.0 chernobyl 2 electric boogaloo yeah yes um it's again one of these things slowly developing because when we first heard it we're like okay what we know is that it was people suspect it was a failed missile test the one that putin was like flexing on everyone was like it can get fucking anywhere in the world i could you're no one is fucking safe it'll outmaneuver every anti-missile defense system the satan missile. Yeah, the Skyfall or whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Kind of a sick name to me. Again, a Bond name, though. People are just going out of their way to come up with sick names for shit. They're like, we're not going to be boring anymore. Sorry, guys. I got to say, I appreciate the shit out of it. I feel like there was a turning point
Starting point is 00:35:21 because Microsoft is the most non-threatening. It's tiny and soft. Don't mind us. We're tiny and soft. And then Apple is a pretty innocuous item. But now people are just like, operation death from above. Unveiling a flaccid dicks Windows XXP. Brought to you by Octopus Hand.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Yeah, so with this one, now there's starting to be a little more information coming out first that a lot of the radiation levels that they were checking in the area had spiked up to 16 times the normal level um that's not good and they're still kind of like you know but the thing is the russian take on it is like very much like what we saw in chernobyl where it was like, there was an incident. Right. And it's all contained. But then people are like, then why did you shut down part of the sea where this happened? Why are people tracking one of your nuclear cleanup boats going that way?
Starting point is 00:36:16 Right. And the town nearby, a city of like 180,000 people, they were saying there were evacuation orders. Right. And people were like whoa what what the fuck is going on with this but then there were conflicting reports that said actually it's canceled everything is very chill and they were only asked to leave because there were going to be some military exercise nearby but those were actually canceled so it's all very chill at the moment um so i'm not sure exactly how many people have left or have not left.
Starting point is 00:36:46 But what's interesting is there are a lot of people very vocal about the fact that they're like, why aren't you saying anything about this? If it's not bad, then give us the whole extent of how bad it isn't. Rather than just being so mitigating everything. Yeah, opaque. Exactly. And they're really, really just concerned because they've seen what has happened in the past and it's important to note how little coverage it's getting on russian state tv too yeah people who like sort of analyze the the media there they said that russia 24 is
Starting point is 00:37:17 their like non-stop news channel they mentioned the incident 10 hours after the first statement that where they vaguely said, oh, it's something to do with a new propulsion system. And people were like, but it's all fine. 10 hours after that, then five hours later, another national TV channel only did a 30-second segment on it. What? How? What do you say in 30 seconds? Oh, everything's chill.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Right. Yeah. And for those of you- And now we're reporting from this town where everything's chill. For those of you worried about the incident in that really far off place, worry not.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Everything has been declared V chill. Moving on. And then five hours later, another channel only did a 36 second mention of it. So in the first fucking what 15 hours of like the statement coming out of the government the news was like no no no sure and if we do it's 36 seconds now here's some footage of vladimir putin scoring hockey goals on professional goalies and now that pigeon that saluted putin exactly for five hours on a loop
Starting point is 00:38:22 uh shit so we still don't know anything. Yeah, but the thing is, it does really smack of Chernobyl in the sense that it's, you're talking about an overly ambitious government project, and they seem to be cutting corners in their development process
Starting point is 00:38:38 to bring their new war toy to market as soon as possible. Check. Because a lot of analysts who work in these kind of propulsion systems, they were very surprised that the Russians were even testing it yet right they're like this is such a very it's gonna take a while to really dial in how to have a nuclear reactor on a missile to fuel it and keeping that stable while being able to do all this other shit they're
Starting point is 00:39:01 just basically saying like i don't know that seemed a little too quick for them to just start testing it. And the FSR went YOLO. Yeah, YOLO. And then again, you have the scientists who were behind it. Those are like the first five casualties who were like,
Starting point is 00:39:16 I think blown out into the water or something. Like there was something, it seems like their death was much more violent than being like- If they hadn't died though, think about how fun it would have been when they were blown out into the water. Kind of like, oh, it's an impromptu water park. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:31 To get an idea of Russia's general ethos when it comes to technological advances, just read up on what the space race was like for them. They were just basically firing people in the general direction of the moon and like hoping they got there you're just like there's like all this audio that has leaked out since then of like people just dying horribly like as they like you know just the rocket explodes the rocket like heats up and like they just bake inside of it like some people like crashed into siberia and then were like had to fight off wolves for like days and didn't some italian ham radio
Starting point is 00:40:14 operators like hear some of these stuff yeah yeah so yuri gargarin i believe uh butchering the russian uh is the first guy to have made it back publicly, which is weird. I always think about that because that's a hell of an asterisk to put on the end of it. It's like, I'm the first man in space, bing, who made it back. Who made it back.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Who didn't melt. Right. Yeah, but they will just blow their finest scientific minds on a very important project or a project that's important to their dear leader well speaking of russia let's talk briefly let's get a couple updates about jeffrey epstein the i feel like people and you know this is a constant refrain for me but i think people were misquoting joe scarborough in the aftermath of this suicide uh air quotes he was like this really smacks of russia and people are like he thinks russia did it and it's like no
Starting point is 00:41:13 this is just how things happen in russia a guy who knows stuff is in prison and then suddenly he's dead and that's just it oh man he had this wild allergic reaction. Right, exactly. I don't know what it was. Maybe the food. Yeah. Anyways, leave- Polonium and tolerance. Leave Joe Scarborough alone. Right, exactly. I don't know, he fell on a bunch of these weird umbrellas that had poison on them.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Yeah. I can't believe he wanted to kill himself so much that he shot himself twice in the back of the head and then put himself in a duffel bag. Yeah, and then jumped in a tub of acid. Right. Like, you know, he had his mind set on it. He had one heck of a Rube Goldberg machine set up to make that work.
Starting point is 00:41:48 It's true. What have we learned since we first brought up this story a few days back? The Daily Mail found Ghislaine Maxwell. The one thing we haven't learned is how to pronounce that name. Well, we did pull up like a French pronunciation video and it was like, Ghislaine.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Ghislaine. Ghislaine. Ghislaine Maxwell. We call her Gislan. Gislan. Gislan. Gislan Maxwell. We call her Gislane. Gislane. She's been staying inside a mansion in Boston with her tech millionaire boyfriend, and since the story kind of broke open wide,
Starting point is 00:42:20 she hasn't left their house. Good. Her boyfriend is walking the dog and doing the food shop do not fucking let her leave yeah fucking country either i mean i hope they true this if they're really serious about tying up these loose ends haul everyone's ass in but you know we can trust ag bar to do that isn't it so weird though when you're at that level and you have to have this sort of this very acted out surface level conversation like oh no do you think they might be a flight risk yes yeah yes yeah this
Starting point is 00:42:52 woman who's everyone's now being like oh yeah this was like one of jeffrey epstein's right hand people like recruiters and groomers right yeah and then she's hiding out while her husband goes and does the shopping also going to a non-extradition country. Yeah. Very distressingly, alarmingly easy. You know what I mean? Like, we can, guys, we can fucking do that. What are they going to do?
Starting point is 00:43:15 You know what I mean? Yeah. Another update from Gislyn Maxwell is that she apparently told people that Epstein had the entire Island wired for video, uh, presumably for blackmail. That was something that he had mentioned to one of the children that he was,
Starting point is 00:43:35 uh, raping. He said that he asked them to like report back to him on famous and powerful people, the details of the sex they had with powerful people so that he could put them in their pocket. But there's also been some whispers that he had different places wired for video.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And yeah, this is just another report that seems to point in that direction. There's a New York times reporter who spoke to him on background a couple years ago because there was a rumor he was trying to substantiate that Epstein was advising Elon Musk around the time of a lot of Elon Musk's questionable behavior. And apparently he was. This is true? Yeah. He was advising him on a couple things around the time that Elon Musk broke all those
Starting point is 00:44:23 laws when he was like we're gonna go private and i'm gonna buy back all the stock or whatever so when he did that 420 joke i believe so yeah wow oh yeah that sounded like a wild series of days right right wasn't uh who was it was azalea banks yeah it was in the house like a lot times yeah but this new york times reporter spoke to him on background meaning like off the record but because he's dead now the reporter felt like they could tell the story and the story he got was just he spent a day with epstein and a couple of the like highlights were that he said the prosecution of sex with teenage girls is a historic aberration, and he thinks that it's insane. But he also, once again, bragged he had dirt
Starting point is 00:45:11 on a bunch of very powerful and very rich people, including drug use, which is a new wrinkle. I mean, I assumed there was probably drug use, but... Yeah, it's like the combo meal. You know what I mean? Exactly. Like, one crime is the burger the other crime is the those would be the fries everybody has a vice and it was his whole jam to figure out what your
Starting point is 00:45:30 vice was get you on camera doing it and then ask ask if you would sign over your legal guardianship to him or your uh your manhattan residence. Shout out, Wexler. There's a Billy Wayne Davis that texted me a video on YouTube just now of like all this drone footage of the island. Pedophile? Yeah. So like, it's like, but it's while the FBI is there. So some guy I think just flew his drone from a nearby island to get to just see it. And you see all the FBI guys, like they're like blacking out the windows and stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:05 I've also been very curious, like what's even there that is usable at this point? What's up with the temple looking thing? You know? The sex temple? Not to profile. Right. Let's be fair to him.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Sure. He was very devout. I don't know what even God he would even pray to. But yeah, the other thing thing too now it's just gossip so let's just give that you know right put that caveat in front of it is that there was a photo that came out recently of naomi campbell i think she was having a party where you see uh gislaine maxwell and virginia jew free or jeffrey the uh the accuser who was like at the time his sex slave who was 17 at the time of this photo being like led on into this party and people were like speculating it's like that she might actually
Starting point is 00:46:50 have a lot to add to this because she she does have connections to jeffrey epstein but you know i think everyone is trying to find like who knows enough to really sort of create accountability for a lot of these people so i think a lot of people on the internet and the gossip side are like, will Naomi Campbell say something? Will she step up? Yeah, the fashion industry seems to be deeply implicated in all of this because the heads of modeling agencies
Starting point is 00:47:19 were where he got a lot of access to young women. I mean, that's why the three of us didn't go into modeling. Yeah, I was too ugly. At the time, they're like, ooh, we're looking for something a little more blue-eyed. No, they wanted a brown kid with blue eyes. And I was like, that doesn't exist, miss. You're going to have to do it with me.
Starting point is 00:47:54 I want to be in this snack pack commercial i once did a waiting job at a party for manolo blahnik uh and all the waiters were male models and like my friend got me into it like so and just was like yeah he's a model too and the guy who like ran the show like just knew i wasn't like immediately he was just like he could like look at me and tell like i didn't have the bone structure what did he do what did he do he was just like hmm where do you model like just asking me all this shit yeah willamina what is like huh is that how your hair usually is? Oh, wow. It's like, are you preparing for a role?
Starting point is 00:48:29 Right. Do you do a lot of modeling in Eastern Europe? Right. So you're like a hand model? Right, right. All right, guys. So you build a lot of model trains? Seriously, though,
Starting point is 00:48:46 honestly, it's incredibly strange. There's so many other strings, right? Other rabbit holes and breadcrumb trails, and I don't know what's going to happen. It's weird. Matt Crispin on Chopper Trap House has gone
Starting point is 00:49:02 off the rails. He's like, I think Jeffrey Epstein wasn't a real guy he was a cipher that they used to transfer money through i was like whoa oh yeah yeah so i mean but i can see how that would happen like you just read non-stop sure get epstein brain and you get those circular thoughts and eventually you're like you're like you know epstein every person sees things eternally right in neutral think about it yeah all right so tons of hashtags that are like too blessed to be stressed blessed uh and also people who do a lot of acronyming uh great great sign oh yeah yeah yeah all right we're gonna take another quick break and we'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:51:37 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
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Starting point is 00:53:07 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire?
Starting point is 00:53:23 Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And, Miles, I personally don't give a shit about spoilers.
Starting point is 00:53:54 I don't either. They kind of help me enjoy the movie a little bit. Actually, same. The first time, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is the first movie that I'm really, really glad i didn't have spoiled for me so thank you sir oh okay because you had seen it like a week before me i just don't talk about anything movie wise sometimes so i'm not like ever been like oh
Starting point is 00:54:15 i'm not gonna say anything for other people i'm just like that yeah look i got a lot going i got a lot of tables man usually janine garofalo famously said in the cable guy yeah usually i don't care because movies stress me out right well you like because i want to know what exactly you're the same with sports too right exactly i fucking can't i need it like the fucking thrill of watching sports for sure is to like live and die by that scoreboard and you know because you know obviously the downside is the lows could be just soul crushing but the highs like when you don't know the outcome and it actually becomes like legendary you you need those you need those that's when you were cool with uh strangers right all of a sudden being like in the space
Starting point is 00:55:03 right there's a big win and you're both like and you're jumping up and down right your high five brain is just flooded with chemicals yeah well but i guess with yeah with tv shows and stuff not as bad i think the only time would be like a finale right maybe i don't want to know but aside from that like if someone you know like i knew the sixth sense ending before i saw it and i, really? And I wasn't pissed. Oh, humble brag, huh? Well, no, someone said it. Oh, you've got friends who've seen the Sixth Sense.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Yeah. Humble brag. Oh, you saw the Sixth Sense a month later. I feel like you're bigly getting the shit out of us. No, it's just like one of those things where like people, you know, at the time that was considered like the, oh my God, the Sixth Sense. And someone was like, yeah, he's like fucking dead at the end. And I was like, huh? Okay. And then I saw it and I was like yeah he's like fucking dead at the end and i was like huh okay and then i saw it and i was still like oh right but to me the the journey wasn't so much
Starting point is 00:55:51 that twist like it was everything else around it yeah but anyway i mean both that and usual suspects are rewatchable movies oh for sure oh yeah even though they're big twisty uh twists at the end but anyways kevin spacey fans over here yes um yes ai uh his i might maybe this is like oh yeah well alan iverson the answer uh may be the answer as well uh wow that's poetic that ai could be the answer to creating a spoiler-free internet now there are researchers at the University, UC San Diego, who have been working on some kind of AI algorithm to try and basically detect spoilers and censor them so people can just fearlessly go into an article
Starting point is 00:56:35 and make sure anything that could be a spoiler would be redacted. However, it's a lot fucking harder than they realized. So they call it SpoilerNet. To train SpoilerNet, the team went looking for large data sets of sentences containing spoilers spoiler alert they found none so they created their own by collecting more than 1.3 million book reviews annotated with spoiler tags by book reviewers the tags encompass sentences that include spoilers and hide them behind of quote view spoiler link in the
Starting point is 00:57:05 text the reviews were collected from goodreads blah blah blah so they really found at first there wasn't really an effective way to actually do this because there's still a lot of issues especially with like semantic nuances yeah so they said in addition the same word may have different semantic meanings in different contexts for example green is just a color in one book review, but it can be the name of an important character and a signal for spoilers in another book. Identifying and understanding these differences is challenging. So they're sort of saying, like, we have something imperfect.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Right. But it almost seems that even then, the bigger picture here is that it's like, yeah, it might be very hard to do this. Or you're going to have to feed this thing a lot more data before i can start picking out stuff like that sure so the conclusion of their scientific study is like science is hard science is hard this shit is tough guys this is tough dude honestly like come on man don't bust my balls about this dude it's a good idea when we thought about it okay thanks for coming to my TED Talk. What do you guys want? There's free snacks outside.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Yeah, but they did run it on a few single sentence reviews about TV shows and it was able to detect spoilers at a 74 to 80%. So it's not like perfect, but it is getting better and better. But yeah, I think that's where they're really realizing it's like, okay, we've got to train this shit a little bit.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I mean, that's pretty good. I only read sentence long reviews. Well, right 70 the reason was that they were trying to also rotten tomatoes have applications for it on twitter right so that way you can like if you you know if you're doing it through the browser it could be like a browser plug-in that could just be running as you because the spoiler can sneak up on you yeah you, you're going through your timeline, you know, in between quesadilla picks. Hey, man. Spoiler alert might come up. Hey, when you're in LA, dude, I'll take you to a quesadilla spot.
Starting point is 00:58:51 You'll cry. No shit, really? It's just loaded. It's loaded of s***. So gross. It's so bad, dude. You're going to get fucking listeria, dude. Cool.
Starting point is 00:59:03 That's the way I want to go out no spoilers no there's some there's some really next level just like clog your whole soul let's do that case it is but uh but also just personally do you want an ai 98 plus percent uh spoiler no but ai i feel like it's only improved my life in the ways i don't know about like where it's happening and like medical whatever i'm like great i'm not one who's like fuck i need an ai solution to like my human problem like right of my day-to-day life i think there are probably ways that it's already helping with like navigation apps oh absolutely yeah that shit i'm like fine with but i've never been like these spoilers why can't there be ai there's god but you'll better way because you're not yoda well because the whole thing is god forbid you don't fucking look at your phone for a few hours or just
Starting point is 00:59:56 say the fuck off twitter or facebook where the spoilers normally reside and i think that speaks more to people's inability to get the log the fuck off. Right. It's also kind of this kind of foisting responsibility onto everyone who is not me to say like, I haven't seen whatever, like I haven't seen the last episode of lost. So the billions of the rest of you shut the fuck up until Thursday. Yeah. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:00:23 It's a weird expectation. just like that for you. Right. Right. Guess what? Motherfucker. They were dead the whole up until Thursday. Yeah. It's weird. It's a weird expectation. Oh, just like that? For you? Right. Well, guess what, motherfucker? They were dead the whole time. Right. Wait, what?
Starting point is 01:00:30 Yeah. Or. Or. Yeah. Or. Okay, sorry. I picked a terrible example for that. But you guys see what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Yeah, of course. Of course. People who read a lot about a movie or a show and then are mad when it gets spoiled for them. It's like, what? is that let me read the wiki on my own guys right uh let's talk about arizona not the state the fucking iced tea dude iced tea they're fucking they're the most chill fucking drink brand dude are they Are they? First of all. You said that Arizona iced tea
Starting point is 01:01:06 knows its brand. Gets into cannabis. I don't see the relation between the two. I don't know. Growing up in California, cracking an Arizona iced tea, like the green tea one, or the Mighty Mango,
Starting point is 01:01:23 whatever the mango is, just pure fructose corn syrup sure it would because it's a cheap tall can right of pure sugar bliss right so i grew up smoking blunts and drinking arizona iced tea or snapple peach tea and a lot of clove cigarettes yeah because that's just what you do when you're a scum teen but it's weird i think also because now they've also realized how much nostalgia is wrapped up in their brand. That very specific green tea can that has the cherry blossoms
Starting point is 01:01:51 and the teal. The light green. They put that on shoes and fucking, I think it was an Adidas collaboration. They had to shut down the collab because so many people were about to mob the store for it. Oh, really? Yeah, and they're putting it on hoodies.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Oh, yeah. So in a on hoodies and be like, oh, yeah, dude, Arizona, look at that. So in a way, it's just like, huh, maybe we can do a little foray into weed. So they've just basically, there was a deal announced that they're doing a little licensing deal with Dixie Brands, which is a Denver-based producer of weed vapes, edibles, drinks, tinctures, and topical creams.
Starting point is 01:02:28 And the board still has to approve it, but it would basically allow Arizona to buy a $10 million stake in the manufacturer, which would essentially open up the door. Because right now, this company distributes in five states that have recreational weed. And basically, maybe we'll see that like green tea flavored like vapes or like drinks that are like arizona iced tea hc yeah yeah is is like the dry mouth and stuff like that one of the things that they've cured in terms of with the we not with with smoking. Not with smoking. Yeah. Yeah, it still gives you dread. Yeah. But, you know, it is what it is, man.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Unless you got to crack open a zone. A zone. You know what I mean? A zone. But the thing, yeah, I will say, you know. In the green tea zone. You'd hope, again, when we mention all, like, how these huge companies come into it and are like,
Starting point is 01:03:19 yeah, we're going to fuck around, too, with that thing that put millions of people of color in prison. Right. You know, I would love to see one too with that thing that put millions of people of color in prison. Right. I would love to see one of these companies say, guess what? We're doing this, but actually all of our money is going working to something else. Because I feel like that's still the sort of big elephant in the room with all of this fantastic legalization that's happening. They're not actually doing any damage repair to the countless people who have been like, you had weed.
Starting point is 01:03:47 You're in jail forever. Yeah, and now it's a bunch of suits going, have you guys heard of this marijuana? It's a big business. You guys remember Zones? Zonas? Zonas? Fucking love them.
Starting point is 01:03:58 And then, you know, it's strange because one would hope that they're doing just the thing that you described. and and it's the tricky part where like if you ever go to a show or you see something where they say a portion of the proceeds right benefit charity what is a portion one percent right exactly and uh and i i hope that that happens but i don't really see it unless somebody, unless somebody purposely goes into it. Maybe you should write to Arizona. I mean,
Starting point is 01:04:27 I think, or basically it has happened at a federal level. It's like where it's like, you know what we're going to do? We're legalizing marijuana. And part of that is going to be expunging the records of people who have just had cannabis charges and letting them out of jail. Like,
Starting point is 01:04:39 I think that's the least you can do, but I feel like there are probably proposed. Like I've heard Kamala say stuff that she's down you can do. But I feel like there are probably- Is that being proposed? I've heard Kamala say stuff that she's down for legalization. I don't know about the expunging records part because in California, they're doing that. They're like, okay, we're legalizing it and we're trying to help people get-
Starting point is 01:04:55 Like retroactively. Yeah, exactly. But we'll see. That could end up being someone's policy platform. You'd hope it would be. This could be big for us. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:04 My next question what do you think about a snapple lady uh streetwear line wow uh-huh i miss her a lot her and the snack wells ladies yeah where are the snack wells ladies i don't know you know so funny i didn't realize it when as a kid when i saw the Snackwells commercials, I was like, dude, these look fucking delicious. And I remember my mom, again, immigrant moms hate buying shit that isn't just normal food. Staple crumbs. Staple food to cook. So I'm like, mom, I really want that Mondo drink thing that's like a janky fucking squeeze it. No coup.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Absolutely not. Right. She's like, you will drink this like old apple juice from concentrate yeah or something yeah but anyway i remember the snackwells commercial had me fucked up i'll go and i grab the devil's food snackwells thing because i look like the most cakey like delicious thing i'm like mom i want this she's like no and i'm like i need this and i started crying and she got it for me. Cut to me getting to the house.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Tastes like absolute shit because I didn't realize it was like a low calorie, sugar free thing. I was so, that was like my first instance of being like, the commercial had me all fucked up and I didn't know what I was getting into. It's snack well, not snack good. That's how they get you.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Yeah, exactly. That is how they get you. Ben, exactly. That's right. That is how they get you. Ben, it has been a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you? Yes,
Starting point is 01:06:32 you can. We do a number of shows when I'm, when I'm not dropping by to hang out with you guys here on Daily Zeitgeist. You can find me at Ridiculous History,
Starting point is 01:06:43 some variation of that phrase across the internet uh where me and my pal noel uh look at all the brilliant beautiful disturbing dare i say ridiculous things over the course of this human civilization and then a show that applies critical thinking to conspiracy theories allegations of the paranormal and more uh also true crime investigatory stuff that is stuff they don't want you to know uh conspiracy stuff on twitter conspiracy stuff show on instagram you can see me getting kicked out uh and kicked into various countries on my own instagram and named in a burst of creativity at ben bolin wait you got kicked out of a country yeah that's fucking awesome uh well uh north korea uh no no
Starting point is 01:07:29 but i kind of got into north korea do we ever talk about this no i don't think we did oh yeah yeah yeah we'll have to catch up off mike yeah well we'll catch up off mike but guys thank you so much for having me i would love to have you guys on uh on my show at some point yeah i'd love to be on would you guys be would you guys be cool with that yeah absolutely it is dude are you on a scale of one to ten where are we joking wise 14 all right in seriousness oh shit okay yeah let's do it let's make it happen ben is there a tweet you've been enjoying? There is a magic realism bot. Have you guys heard about that?
Starting point is 01:08:08 Uh-huh. Yeah. I think so, yeah. Okay. And then there's not a wolf, which is blowing up now. It's just... Not a wolf? Yeah, it's just...
Starting point is 01:08:15 It's like the all caps thing. Yeah, yeah. It's clearly just a wolf pretending to be a human. Oh, right. Right. Like, I love wearing clothes and walking with my leg kind of stuff, you know? Because the handle is at sick of wolves let's see what's the last one at what point in the burrito does my unending anxiety recede or is that not what these are for so they'll build an entire horde
Starting point is 01:08:42 tube to get fish from one place to another. But if a wolf theoretically wanted to use a climbing wall just to see what all the fuss is about, they would have no options. Uh, miles, where can people find you? And what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh,
Starting point is 01:08:56 God. I mean, look, you can find me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray, uh, or just sobbing in front of Epcot because we don't have time to go. Really bummed about this new development
Starting point is 01:09:09 but maybe we'll have a chance to go to the Holy Land experience. Yeah. Still holding out for that. A tweet that I like is from Aparna Nonchurla at AparNapkin. It says, I would love to see an added feature to business slash restaurant descriptions on Yelp answering, can I cry here?
Starting point is 01:09:27 Great for crying. Good for families? No. Good for crying. Great for crying. And sports. At Liz Hackett, Elizabeth Hackett tweeted, my favorite part of adulthood is thinking back on being a child and trying to figure out which adults in charge were going through some major shit. That is a lot of fun.
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Starting point is 01:10:04 as well as the song we ride out on. what's that gonna be today uh this is a new song i believe i think it's new um from kareem riggins who is one of my favorite drummers he's also like a producer he kind of like occupies this really interesting space in hip-hop and just tremendous beat maker too uh but please look up some of his drum solos because his pocket feel is gnarly and his technique is great. But this track is called Double Trouble from Kareem Reagans on the album Alone Together.
Starting point is 01:10:35 No, that's an old album actually. So it's not new, but it's new to me. Might as well be new if it's new to you. New to you. Right? What was that joke where where isn't it a cartoon Where some guy's in prison If I haven't seen it it's new to me
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