The Daily Zeitgeist - William Barr’s “The Mueller Report”, All Apple Everything 3.26.19

Episode Date: March 26, 2019

In episode 356, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Throwing Shade co-host Bryan Safi to discuss all the new Apple products, Stacey Abrams comments on being Joe Biden's running mate, Michael Avenatti being charged with extortion, the Mueller report as interpreted by William Barr, Scary Space spilling the tea, Jordan Peele's Us killing it at the box office, Dominos making it easier to order pizza, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Apple introduces its own credit card, the Apple Card2. Nothing too fruity! Apple's billion-dollar Netflix rival will be 'bland' because executives REFUSE to allow shows with 'profanity, violence or gratuitous sex'3. Stacey Abrams addresses Biden rumors: We had a 'lovely lunch'4. Michael Avenatti charged with trying to extort $20 million from Nike5. It's official: Russiagate is this generation's WMD6. Mel B Claims She Slept With Geri Halliwell During Spice Girls Era7. Jordan Peele's 'Us': The Box Office Records It Broke (Or Almost Broke) In Its $71.2M Debut8. Us Broke a Big Box Office Record—Consider It the Umpteenth Reminder that Black Narratives Are Marketable  9. Domino’s to launch in-car pizza-ordering capability10. WATCH: Sango - Ritmo Novo Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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New episodes every Thursday. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 75, Episode 2 of The Daily Zeitgeist, the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, March 26, 2019. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. If you're Jackie and you know it, clap your hands. If you're Jackie and you know it, clap your hands. If your name is Jack O'Brien and you host the Daily Zeitgeist,

if you're Jackie and you know it, clap your hands. It's courtesy of Andrew Thomas. Yeah, where were the hand claps, assholes? Well, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! This one's a little bit shorter, but... Red, red miles, gray close to me. Man, I love UB40. The first concert I ever went to was UB40 and Us 3 at the Universal Amphitheater in 1992.

Did you see Brett and Squee there? Yeah, Brett and Squee. Brett Cavanaugh was there just smashing beers in the back. But, yeah, I remember the first time I also smelled weed. And I think I saw my dad hit a joint. But then he told me it was a cigar from a guy he knew who was at the show that was his friend that I had never met before, and he didn't want to introduce me because he was in the middle of the show, and it would take too long to explain to me what happened.

Yeah. You know how that always goes. Yeah, you know how that goes. People passing cigars around at the UB40 show. Because I was like, it smells weird. He's like, that's cigars. Uh-huh. Okay.

Anyway, but that one is from Assoltus Hanna, so shout out to you for that beautiful AK. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian and co-host of the Throwing Shade podcast and TV show, Brian Sappie. Hi. What's up, man? Thank you so much for joining us. I used to, my very first concert was U2 and NWA and the Sugar Cubes opened for U2. Whoa.

Which was crazy. And it was my very first concert, and I told on everyone when I smelled it. I went straight to the security guard. I was like 11, and I was like, excuse me. And the security guard was like, you are so lame. Like, didn't do anything. Just, it was like, really?

I'm actually going to arrest you so you can learn something real quick. We don't like that. Yeah. Wait, NWA, the order was the sugar cubes, NWA,

you too. It was like you choose, um, whatever Zootopia or something tour. Yeah. Wow. Zoropa. Zoropa.

But that would have been Zootopia. Right. And then that was diehard fan when Bjork was in the sugar cubes. She was still in the sugar cube. Maybe she had already done her debut album, but was transitioning. I don't know. Wow, this sounds... What city was this in?

El Paso, Texas. Holy shit. All the good shows stop by El Paso. That's true. GNR and Faith No More. I would love to have that tour shirt. I know, I can't believe I didn't... Of just that lineup.

I know. Out Loud sounds just hilarious. And I had maybe heard one YouTube song. Do you know. I can't believe I didn't. I know. Out loud sounds just hilarious. And I had maybe heard like one U2 song. Do you know what I mean? I was just like, not the target audience for any of those things. Well, plus you were too busy narking on everybody.

Right. You're just there to make sure nobody got away with any bullshit on your watch. Not for a second. Yeah. You have like a homemade U2 shirt with marker, but it's spelled Y-O-U-T-O-O. Right.

And you're like, yeah, I love U2 as well. I love U2. They. I love U2. They rule. They're great. Fellow drugger. Me too. Wow, that's hot.

Yeah. All right, Brian, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners just a few of the things we're talking about today. Apple announced like a whole universe of products. So many things. So we're going to talk about some of those. We're going to talk about an update on the Abrams Biden ticket that we had talked about last week, an update on Michael Avenatti, what he's up to, and just continued reflections upon the Mueller report as summarized by the attorney general.

But first, Brian, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, well, my search history, the last person I searched was Carla Gugino. Okay. Gugino. The actress. The actress. So I was watching, I don't remember what show I was watching,

but there was a preview for Entertainment Tonight and it was True Beverly Hills' 30th anniversary. And Carla Gugino was a little girl in that. Oh, shit. And I had no idea that she grew up to be Carla Gugino was a little girl in that. Oh, shit. And I had no idea that she grew up to be Carla Gugino. Like, I just remember her from that movie, and then I Googled her, and I was like, wow, she really made something of herself.

It's nice when you see a child star really make it. Yeah, and not just sort of crash and burn, which happens a lot. Were there any other people who made it out of that cast? Jenny Lewis, the singer Jenny Lewis, was in that. And then those were sort of oh Tori Spelling that was her first movie

was that yeah yeah I used to love that movie and they've tried to remake it a few times and then it just like gets stopped

wait what is the movie Troop Beverly Hills Troop Beverly Hills it's like it's like a Girl Scout Troop in Beverly Hills got it yeah

and it was like one of those it's like it was a huge flop at the box office. Yeah. Right. And then just was rented constantly. And then like on the Disney Channel.

Exactly. It was like Clue or something. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. She was the daughter and son-in-law? Oh, that's- She was? Holy shit.

She- I have to say, she looks great. Yeah. I had no idea That she was the daughter And son-in-law Well Co-starred with Pauly Shore

In the 1993 romantic comedy Son-in-law So She wasn't the Pauly Shore Character So She must have been The romantic lead

I don't remember that movie In great detail Oh I do That is a movie I somehow saw so many times For no reason And like Well in like

During a bad hangover If it's streaming, I'm like, maybe this will help solve my cure my ills. And then I watched it. I'm like, Oh no, this is so bad.

It was actually the worst of his. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Of poly. Love biodome. Yeah.

Yeah. Way better. That's with the Christian Baldwin, right? Yes. Yes. Steven. Uh, what is something you think is underrated?

The Wendy Williams show. Okay. I thought her coverage of the cheating scandal was the best. Oh, wow. Of anybody. I actually think she should be on Late Night, because I think she just rides the line of edgy or not. And also, she did this whole thing this week where she was like, hey, I need to be honest

with you guys. I've been living in a sober house. Yeah. And I go right. And I just thought that was great. I get most of my news news from PBS NewsHour and all my pop culture news from her. Wow. There you go.

I think she's great. How you doing? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, yeah, she's very open and honest. I remember she's like, who hasn't smoked a Woola? And I was like, ooh, okay, Wendy. Wait, what is a Woola?

Just rolling up crack in your blunts. No, for real? Yeah. There was some actress. I can't remember who it was, but she does say things that certainly cross the line or just bizarre. Like once she was profiling someone who had just been diagnosed with diabetes and she goes,

are you mad that they have diabetes? I mean, I don't know if I'm mad or not. I don't think I'm mad. And it was like, why would you be? Are you mad that they have diabetes? All right.

Keep thinking out loud, Wendy. I love her opinions. And I, I don't know. I think she's, she's very refreshing. She stays, she's an outsider the way like Stern is. Like just tries to stay outside of it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's awesome. What is something you think is overrated? Game of Thrones. And I watched the first season fully. And everyone's like, you have to give it a shot. I gave it a shot. I didn't hate it.

It just absolutely isn't for me. And I don't understand the mass appeal of it. I only understand it as like a niche thing I don't understand how it ever crossed over wow yeah so you watched the whole first season wasn't it as part of a show or were you on

oh my friend Aaron who does throwing shade with me created gay of thrones with Jonathan Van Ness so I've only since then have watched the episodes where I've been on the show for. I don't think it's bad. It just definitely isn't for me. And I'm constantly surprised

at the number of people who it's for. Right, yeah. Because people across the board, and obviously people I love and respect and admire and whose tastes I completely trust, it's just a, I guess it's just a blind spot for me. I don't know.

I think you have to like, do you like the fantasy genre? I don't, but so many people who don't love the show. Right. And I have a feeling, for me, it's like, see, they're taking it where, like, Lord of the Rings could have took it with, like, wild, nasty shit. And I think that's really what it is. It's like, we're not used to seeing the fantasy world. It's usually kind of sterilized a little bit.

Yes. But now it's like you have just the darkest shit happening. Right. And I think it maybe is scratching an itch in that sense of like Matt being like just dark shit on the fantasy genre on TV. And I like creepy shit. Like I just saw Annihilation and I loved it. I love stuff like that. Annihilation is really good.

Couldn't get into it. Yeah. Well, this is just like overt violence and just crazy incest. See, I don't know if people are tuning in for that, but I think as I watch it, I'm more like I've just become dependent on it. Sure. So now I just have to see it through because it was losing steam for me a little bit as a viewer, but now I'm just like, I'm too deep now.

And I'm like, well, I got just like, I'm too deep now. And I'm like, well, I got to write this thing off to the end. See what happens. Yeah. I mean, people, I feel like part of it is driven by the conversation that people are having about it. But the conversation isn't that good. It's just like, did you see Game of Thrones? Yeah, right, right.

It's like, oh, that was fucked up, right? Dragons and shit? Yeah. I mean, come on. That was fucking sick. There are also so many meetings i go to where i just pretend to like it because it's like everyone's favorite fucking show and i'm like i know what's your what's your default line for not seeing an episode and someone goes oh my god brian what did you think of last night's oh my god i just think honestly like she's killing

it like she's like she's such a fucking badass at this point i know it's crazy just like like where she started at the beginning of the show unstoppable right and so well acted and so well done yeah that's that's what i felt with brian he's he's down with the thrones right yeah i mean i guess like the thing that i liked mostly about it is that it has vibes of what history was like, actually, like how gritty and awful the history was. But then the sort of fantasy side of it, I'm not that interested in. So now as it's sort of gone closer to that- You're in it for the historical shit.

Right, which is no more realistic or admirable. Meanwhile, I'm like, I'm here for the fucking dragons. Right. And titties. The dragons I'm like, I'm here for the fucking dragons. Right. And titties. The dragons, I like too, but that's from history, right? Yeah, I mean, that's how, you know, St. George, the St. George's Cross, that was his miracle, right? He slayed a dragon.

He did. And every depiction of it, the dragon looks like a lizard. It's so small. It's like, I think he stepped on a snake by accident. He's just really I think he stepped on a snake by accident. He's just really high. Right. Oh, he slayed that dragon.

I know. Brian, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Oh, okay. Well, I sort of have two here because I'm not a real myth buster, but when I was a kid,

my brother's older friend, David, told me that when I turned 13, I would pee out of my butt and poo out of my penis. And I legit, I'm not kidding, until I turned 13, like was waiting for it. I was sort of excited about it by the end of it. This will be weird. It didn't happen. The other thing that I don't know to be true for myself is that the zipper, the little

square on the zipper, you're supposed to lock down onto the zipper chain. Like the flap of it has a little square at the end of it, you know, like a little hole. Right. You're supposed to press it down into the zipper and it locks the zipper. Did you know that? That's true? Yes, that's true. So it's nothing I can prove wrong.

And then you can hear it. You'll hear it like click in and that prevents your zipper from sliding down. Wow. You know what I'm talking about, right? Like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The like rectangle. I wear button fly.

See? So cool. You don't have to deal with this man. I mean, I stopped wearing poor people jeans a long time ago. That sounds really cool. Must be neat for you guys. All right, Mr. Varvatos. Does Rag and Bone do button zip?

I don't know. But that sounds great. Yeah. Wow. Oh, man. I'm really thinking about just how, like, these so many things

we overlooked. I invented it. Like, it was just one of those things that, like, has a use that actually has a use. And I thought that that couldn't

possibly be true, but it is. But it's not YKK, the company that, like, really has the zipper game on lock. Oh, is that true? Yeah, like, YKK. If you look, most of your zippers have, like, YKK stamped on it. And has the zipper game on lock. Oh, is that true? Yeah, like YKK.

If you look, most of your zippers have YKK stamped on it. And it's like this one company that is... Illuminati. That runs the zipper gang. Yes. Yeah. The YKK group is a Japanese group of manufacturing companies. But yeah, basically all zippers have YKK.

Zippers have many messages and meanings and uses. Yeah, exactly. It's about coming together. Are we stronger when we're together? That's right. What happens when we... There's so much going on. Oh, man.

Look below. All right, guys, let's talk about Apple. Okay. They stepped in and distracted America from their Mueller woes with their announcing of a bunch of different shit. Whole universe of Apple product. Which is actually funny, because when you look at what's trending on Twitter

as we record this, I haven't seen one thing with the word Mueller or Trump or Russia. It's just Apple, Apple, Apple, Oprah, Michael Avenatti, Nike. And we'll get to that later. But I guess that makes sense. Everyone wants something they can think is real and is coming. Michael Avenatti and Nike. And we'll get to that later. But I guess that makes sense. Everyone wants something they can think is real and is coming.

I didn't dive too deeply into this. So what are they releasing? Okay, so hold on. Oh, sorry. Just buckle up, Brian, because here we go. I mean, I think the main things

was the, everyone knew the streaming service was coming, so they had all those people up. But let's talk about the first thing that I thought was interesting was the Apple card. They're doing a credit card now. So basically it's integrating with Apple wallet and you do all your purchases through there.

There's no fees there that you get cash back. If you want a physical card, they give you like a laser etched titanium card. So if you really want to flex on people, pull out your Apple master card. And I think a lot of people are also pointing, like, the security features because it will actually vary the security numbers. So it'll be very, very hard to actually have someone use your card fraudulently. So your number changes from moment to moment? I can't remember exactly what it is. It's that or the CVV number will change. That'll be dynamic.

So there's one thing that will always be dynamic. So even if if you have one or the other you need like your card and your phone to fully you know make purchases with it right um and i think what my first thing was like oh they talk about how they will actually like organize your purchases so you can see how you're spending your money and where it's going to kind of help people consume more you know responsibly or however you want to and i was like oh well so it's free because they're taking the data. But,

uh, they're, they're saying that none of that actual information will be transmitted to Apple servers. Like all that, uh, sorting and filing happens on the handset itself. Most credit cards have that functionality now.

Right. We're like, they'll sort of, it doesn't do anything for me though. Yeah. Like the sorting. Yeah, exactly.

Sort of like, you know, do you have something you'd spend too much money money on that the app goes, oh, Brian. Well, I'll tell you, my only real weak spot, I don't really spend money on much except if I'm on a vacation, I'll splurge on hotels. I love them. Yes. Which is why I'm an Amex member because you get those fine hotels and resorts bonuses.

There you go. So if Apple has an incentive like that, like a travel incentive. Well, there's no international fees and they're trying to eliminate most fees, essentially. fine hotels and resorts bonuses. There you go. So if Apple has an incentive like that, like a travel incentive, I'm big on the travel credit cards. Well, there's no international fees and they're trying to eliminate most fees, essentially. But can you build points towards something? It doesn't sound like it. Well, you get like 2% cash back

and then 3% if you buy Apple products. So I think those are the rewards so far from my like cursory skim of the announcement. I see. But is there another credit card that doesn't have any fees? Like that doesn't have a... I can't think of one.

Yeah. I mean, it just basically, it seems like the only way this is feasible for them is because they want people to get in the habit of spending money through their phone, basically. Right. Sure. Yeah. And just like enter the game of credit cards. And make things easier for you.

Like if someone else has an Apple card, then like, you know, sending money back and forth is even more seamless. Right. You know, but I'm sure. I mean, the way credit card companies make money is usually through the fees, right? And the interest, I guess.

Right, interest, yeah. And then, but we were talking about how they, credit card companies now regard themselves as data mining companies, essentially, because they just sell your information to the highest bidder. So, yeah, I don't know. We'll see. We're all trade. It seems like one of those things that's too good to be true, in which case it always is too good to be true. I think as things come up, we'll know.

But once people saw that card, I feel like all the memes are about people with their titanium like Apple card. Oh, definitely. Yeah, we'll see. There's also the Apple Arcade, just a subscription game service. Okay, fine. Not necessarily for me, but some people. Great.

Good. Not for me either. Got your arcade. But it was the TV plus thing that everyone's talking about because over the last 18 months, like everyone and their mother has been like signing deals with Apple and we're like, for what exactly? And then this thing was like the like Hollywood show and tell fest. We're like, now welcome Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon to the stage to be like, and here's our show. Like Jason Momoa and Alfre Woodard came out for their show and asked people to close their eyes because their series has to do with people who can't see or something.

So very, you know, next level. Oh, 4D. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. That's like William Castle. They're going to like put out candy smells or something. I don't understand is, and I don't know if this was true or not, but you know, people on these shows were saying that Tim Cook weighed in on every show, like had creative

notes for these shows. Oh, did you hear that? That would be very frustrating. Yeah. Yeah. They had, like, Apple people there. Right. Like, on the – the tech people, like, on the sets of these shows, weighing in creative.

Yeah, wow. Yeah. What better place to get notes than from someone who's, like, just used to not content creation or writing at all? I know. I think they're going to – I really think that their plan is just to shut all these other places down completely, right? Well, they're not exactly going directly for Netflix's throat, so to speak. But I think this is probably just a first step to see like, okay, how many people can we like lure into using our service? Because it's also using like – you can get – there's a subscription plan where you can have like CBS All Access or HBO and all these other things.

So if you're cord cutting, this might be a, you know, appealing option for you. But then, you know, Tim Cook had to do it to him. Said, oh, wait, I have one last guest. Fucking Oprah comes out. And everyone's like, just on their feet applauding. And she's like, you know, she's out here at full Oprah mode. She has two documentaries coming out or working on. One is exploring the impacts of sexual harassment in the workplace called Toxic Flavor.

And the other is about mental health and how the trauma of loss is devastating lives around the globe. She doesn't want these on her own? No, I think she, I think it's just about, I think they probably gave her the funding to do it on a level that she was like, oh, I don't have to come out of pocket. Yeah. Let's, yeah. Why not team up with funding to do it on a level that she was like, oh, I don't have to come out of pocket. Yeah. Let's. Yeah. When I team up with Apple.

Yeah. To do this. And then Steven Spielberg also has a show coming out. What? Yeah. Where I'm like, why didn't he just get so pissed in Netflix? Yeah. Where he was like, oh, this is my show.

We're rebooting amazing stories. I'm like, I'm sorry. The guy who was trying to flame Netflix for whatever. Yeah. But this is a TV series specifically that he's rebooting, right? Right. So he's safe in terms of being a hypocrite about that. That's true.

He fooled us all once again. Do you remember the show that he's rebooting? It's called Amazing Stories, which is a very on-the-nose title for a TV show. Amazing Stories! I've never heard of it. I think it was like an 80s show that not a lot of people watched. Yeah, he created it in the 80s. So it's just doing his own thing.

He created it? Yeah, it was a show that he had created in the 80s. It was like Twilight Zone. It says, yeah, it is an anthology that drifts between fantasy, horror, and science fiction. Akin to newer shows like Black Mirror and Netflix. But its format is near identical to the Twilight Zone. CBS All Access?

I love that he had one thing that no one knew about. He's like, I'm doing it again. Right. Now you're going to know. It's clear in the deck. Maybe now you'll appreciate the genius of amazing stories. Because the stories were amazing. Steve Carell came out. Kamel Nanjiani, Big Bird.

Yeah. And a lot of people were like, his voice is different. Big Bird's voice? He was nervous. No, no, no. The person who did Big Bird, Big Bird, Carol Spinney, left Sesame Street in the last two years right so a new performer is now doing it and you know people with those voices you can kind of hear

like that's not my dad's voice right like i know that one there's but yeah when you look at some of the past uh stories from amazing stories it was like on some black mirror shit there's episode called remote control man a man has a remote control that brings characters out of the TV. I have to be honest, I never tire of those kinds of things. I'm always on board for that genre. Anything that will make me feel more paranoid as I watch it, hi, I'm like, no.

Okay, let's keep going. I need to be rattled. Yeah, exactly. I heard Big Bird's voice change was actually a note from Tim Cook. Big Bird's voice is all wrong. Why are you talking? Tim Cook had never heard it. Why do you talk like that? You're so annoying. Hold on. Can I give you

a note? Can you just speak with your regular voice? This feels really contrived. Hey, kids. It's me, Big Bird. Now I'm not put off by you. I can relate to you. You sound like my parents. So actually, we have a list of some of the notes that Apple had for some of their shows.

It seems like Tim Cook really wanted all of this content to be so beyond family friendly, which I'm not sure how you do with the content in Oprah's documentary, but we'll get to that later. There's a thriller series written by M. Night Shyamalan, and that is a show being held up because I think there were crucifixes that were making Tim Cook a little uneasy. They had to basically completely can a show about Dr. Dre because it had cocaine use, and people were drawing guns. So Tim Cook was like, mm-mm-mm-mm.

Oh, so it's all PG because it has to reach everybody who uses an Apple device? Hey, Dr. Dre, why can't your story be like some really sleepy suburban town white kid growing up rather than who the fuck you are? Well, I remember when Netflix sort of released Numbers the first time. It was like Fuller House had the biggest number. It was those family shows that were killing it. Oh, that's interesting. And I wonder if Tim Cook is just thinking like, yeah, what you just said, Jack, like broad appeal.

Right. Yeah, I guess that's the problem with Apple is they've been such just a hardware company that when they go into content, now people are going to be like, oh, this is what you stand for, for content? Right. I just liked when you made the square that lit up

and I would scream at like anything else. Well, this could be tricky. Unless it's like the greatest family content ever, but with like... What if the nation just rejects profanity after it? We love these shows so much that we're like, this is how you clean up your ass. This is the new high bar.

We should all aspire to reach it. That's right. That's interesting. So all their notes are like one direction, new high bar yeah you know we should all we should all aspire to reach it that's right that's interesting so they all all their notes are like one direction are going in one direction yep yeah the band like the band although i feel like the he would probably approve their lyrics yeah yeah pretty clean and then just with we were just bringing up jennifer anderson and reese witherspoon show they paid 12 million per episode but they said this program was delayed because Apple quote, wanted a more upbeat show and took exception to some of the humor proposed.

This has to be so fucked up for the writers to be like, I'm sorry, what was the, and then you're just like, so they don't want a funny show. Right. What do they want? Especially working for something.

Or I think the idea that for creative people, at least behind Netflix, when you take a show to Netflix, who love this, it's that you can't take more risks. Right. So this is like very, this is CBS. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, God.

And then you have Tim Cook. Think CBS and then reel it in a couple of times. We don't, we want. Think Scientology Media Productions. Mixed with Sinclair Broadcasting. Right. Right. All right. We're going to take a Broadcasting. Right. All right.

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Yeah, and I think we were waiting because we were like, Stacey Abrams, the way she gives interviews sounds like Joe Biden would be the last person on earth she would want to run with. And we finally have heard from Stacey Abrams. She was like, no, there was, you know, we never, I'm not running with him. She's like, but she did say vice. This is a quote from her. Vice President Biden. I had a lovely lunch and we talked about food and we talked about I mean, look, we talked about the presidency and what it means. And then I said we talked about whether I was thinking about running.

We talked about whether he was thinking about running. But we did not have that conversation. And everything else is pure speculation made up by somebody else. Hmm. Okay. Well, that sounds like her being polite was like this motherfucker thought I was going to run with him. and everything else is pure speculation made up by somebody else. Hmm. Okay. Well. That sounds like her being polite was like, this motherfucker thought I was going to run with him.

Right. And I had to be like, hell no. Right. You thought I forgot about you talking to Anita Hill? Right. And I'm just going to hop on board the Biden train? Yeah. But then she did it in a very polite way because it's so vague. She's like, look, I mean, we talked about the presidency, what it means.

What it means where he was like, I really feel that you and I could probably do that. That's what I think that line means. We talked about whether I was thinking about running. Hey, you thinking about running? You want to run as my vice presidential running mate? Whether he was thinking about running? I'm thinking about running. Would you like to run with me?

Right, right. And to say we had a lovely lunch feels a little bit like, she's using that euphemistically a little bit. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. We had a nice lunch. Because I don't think he's hitting her up.

He's like, hey, Stacy, let's grab lunch, and let's just talk in real vague. Yeah, and mostly just about food. Yeah, right. That was another one, right? Food. That's such a. Yeah, the way it struck, we had a lovely lunch,

and we talked about food. And that's her first We had a lovely lunch, and we talked about food. And that's her first one. Then she goes, and we talked about... I mean, look, we talked about the presidency. She thought, she was like, oh, no, this doesn't sound even believable. Let me level. Yeah. We talked about food.

Like, for instance, the waiter asked, what do you want to eat? And we told him. Yeah. And that was part of the conversation. Commented on our... We shared small plates. We shared tapas. Yeah, I really love this new gastropub vibe.

Really, really liking it because you can try a bunch of little everythings. Yeah, and I think the other thing to keep in mind is no one has ever just been like, hi, I'm running with this person in a serious campaign. Like not someone as serious as Biden would be. It's just not. I remember last

ditch but everything had already pretty much ended when Ted Cruz said that Carly Fiorina was gonna be his right but that was like at the last second yeah it was like a Hail Mary yeah um but yeah this is this is like him trying to when you're throwing Hail Marys in the first quarter yeah okay you're right you're right it's a little desperate yeah because I think again what we were saying is he's clearly gonna have to answer to a lot of his voting record when it comes to incarceration or these other things. And again, the treatment of Anita Hill is something Stacey Abrams talked very specifically about in interviews about how when she saw that, she was like, this is not right. This is what's wrong with politics. So, you know, and he's the least he is probably the candidate.

Yeah. With the biggest paper trail and is the least fresh. Yeah. And she is the opposite, he is probably the candidate, yeah, with the biggest paper trail and is the least fresh. Yeah. And she is the opposite of both of those things. Right. And they're like, ooh, maybe that'll cancel her out and he'll be like a middling candidate. Yeah. We'll see. Yeah.

I'm just glad she came out and, you know, made it clear for people because there was a lot of speculation going on. There was an Emerson poll, I guess, over the past week that has Biden still leading the pack at 25%. Bernie Sanders at 24%, mostly notable because Pete Buttigieg was in the third spot with 11%. And then Kamala Harris at 10%. Elizabeth Warren at 9%. Man, a month ago, he couldn't even get his name up in there. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, he's had some strong showings between those town halls and just other interviews he's been doing.

Beto O'Rourke at 5%. That seems pretty low. Well, let him do some skateboarding tricks on a diner counter, and we'll see the numbers go up. Yo, he is just nonstop jumping on things. Nonstop, you know, just making sure his wife knows her place. He's really just... Yeah, he just be...

Look, just do some like Rodney Mullen skateboarding tricks, you know, like a tricks tape. Right. And that'll probably help. Yeah. Again, it's just so early. We don't know what so many people's platforms are and what they're really trying to run on that...

We'll see. there's a kid that i went to college with who always needed to be higher than everybody else like so like he just like if you were in a room he would like start standing on the couch or something like he just needed to be the highest person i think he was like a little short and maybe that had something to do with it and like at like a tailgate thing, he would stand on like the top of like a truck or something. He'd like sit on the roof of the truck while everyone was in the bed. Yeah, like climb up on a fence. Like it was just like this weird like that we know a thing we noticed like sophomore year.

And then like every time you saw him, it was like, yeah, he's climbing that thing. I know you start trolling him where you get on the highest thing in the room, and he's like, fuck, what do I do? But I do wonder, does Beto have that, or does he just think it's like a cool look for him to like stand on something, be like the man of the people? He seems like he doesn't worry about

where he is height-wise in relation to other people. Yeah, that's true. I think he just needs like a stage just so everybody, maybe it's important that everybody can see him. Because if he's standing in a crowd, the shorty's in the back. Right. Can't see this beautiful face.

Yeah, yeah. That's right. And if it were a TV show, the network exec would be like, people like it. Keep doing it. Keep doing it. Keep doing it.

Right. They're talking about it. Even if they're making memes. He's definitely gotten some good notes on that. Although the memes are starting already on counters. There's literally. There's memes about everything these days. It's the meme economy. You couldn't do anything that would be nothing

but positively received with no memes, with no backlash memes. Michael Avenatti is approximately as shady as I think we all started to suspect by the end he was. Yeah, once the other cases started coming in,

like real murky stuff about something going on with his ex-wife and other weird deals. There was a fallout with Stormy Daniels. I mean, we were always saying, based on in the beginning, we were like, yo, this guy's fucking amazing. Hold on. He's just as shitty as the president, and we'll just talk that shit on the news. Right.

And then like, as it went on, it was, I was like, this guy's either the dopest dude ever or the biggest piece of shit ever. Who's just like, knows how to fucking work the fucking, you know,

the optics game. And it looks like he's the shit bag, professional shit bag. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like it. So he has been accused of basically trying to extort Nike, the company Nike, out of $20 million. He said he knew about a scandal that was involved, you know, high school basketball and college basketball, like big names in college basketball and Nike, like basically funneling money into high school athletes. Who knows? That sounds entirely possible. But rather than, you know,

going public or trying to bring this information to a journalist, journalistic outlet, he decided to go to Nike and say, hey, if you don't pay me 22 million dollars we're gonna uh let this shit rip how huge like that is that that is really how the heights of his ego reached right was he was like i'm gonna blackmail nike right the motherfucking nike and as the swoosh lands on his skull right yeah i mean he he like, even the talk was like, he's like, I'll fucking take billions off your market cap. Watch what I can do. And I think, you know, he gassed himself up

over the last 18 months, and, you know, he found out there were limits to the heights he could fly. I think we had a sense that he had an outsized opinion of himself when he started talking about possibly like exploring a 2020 run yeah oh yeah I feel like everyone pretty like unilaterally was like

absolutely no go away stop that shit right there go back to being a fake race car driver yes go on TMZ scream well and then also but not only that then he's caught up in another embezzlement scheme, too. Yeah. So it's not just, like, he got hit with, like, two cases in one day.

Yeah, so he apparently defrauded a Mississippi bank by submitting false tax returns in order to obtain loans totaling $4.1 million, which he allegedly used for his coffee bean business. $1 million, which he allegedly used for his coffee bean business. And there was also a thing where he was accused of negotiating a settlement for $1.6 million to be paid in January 2018 and then using the funds to pay expenses for, again, his coffee business. So he's just really in this coffee game. What kind of business is he upside down on? I saw him one time and I almost said hello, but then decided against it because something even better happened.

He was sitting at the top of a hotel here in LA. Joan Collins passes him by and says, hello. And he goes, hi, how are you? And I was like, I can't believe that happened.

I mean, that's the beginning and end of the story. Right. But it was like, yeah, Michael Avenatti, he that's the beginning and end of the story but it was like yeah Michael Avenatti he thinks he's up here right right yeah

and apparently so did I I was there too I was a real imposter and you were trying to extort Nike also at the same time I was the one who told him I was like listen

I can't do it you could do it you should try this man this is slam dunk fail proof yeah cause then when you also look too right even with the fallout with like the William Barr Mueller thing,

he was tweeting about like what, like how like the country has to beat Trump, right? And he's like, to all Dems, this is a tweet from like, you know, like late last night or early Monday. To all Dems from now until November 2020, we need to have one overriding focus, the nomination and election of a candidate who has a unique skill set, okay, Liam Neeson, to beat Trump and end this dumpster fire of a presidency. It's all about who matches up best against him. The weak need not apply, which is kind of him advertising for himself. He's always been like, I'm a street fighter, man. And also, shut the fuck up.

There's no such thing as electability anymore. If we learned anything in 2016, it's that this doesn't exist. Don't predict that. anymore. If we learned anything in 2016, it's that this doesn't exist. Don't predict that. The devil knows his own because he's out here doing the same kind of shit about being like, hey, let me pop up my number so I can get this bank loan.

It's true. Yeah, they're from the same. He would be a great campaign manager that would later go to prison. Yeah, right. Maybe he should just work for Trump. If Manafort hadn't been employed by Trump, this is probably what Manafort would be doing right now. It's just openly talking shit in such a way that he could make money off of it and some sort of scam.

But you know what? Well, no, because Tuesday at 11 Eastern, he will be telling the world about Nike's skimmings and scammings. He says this criminal conduct reaches the highest levels of Nike and involves some of the biggest names in college basketball. Huh. Damn. Interesting. Yeah.

To be clear, though, he was arrested for those charges, for the extortion charges, I believe. But as we record this, we don't know what kind of bombs he has dropped, if any. That would be so funny if it's just big nothing. It always is. I know. But then it would also be funny where he really's just big nothing. It always is. I know. But then it would also be funny where he really does just be like, wow, okay, shit. So speaking of big nothing, maybe, potentially, the Mueller report as interpreted by William Barr.

No! Miles, you had some thoughts on this. I mean, you know, just as much as we can have thoughts on right now, just to bear in mind, just before you watch Fox and watch them just burn the studio down with their partying because it's so lit over there, this is a summary, a summary of Mueller's report from a man who is hell-bent on not charging a president with obstruction of justice by any means.

That's Barr. That's William Barr. Because, again, what we have is William Barr's very narrow summary or his conclusions of what the Mueller report was. And right now, again, you go on conservative media, you look at the president's Twitter, you look at Sarah's sucker-faced Sanders Twitter, it's all like, total exoneration, right?

No collusion. Again, the collusion part is a very narrow kind of collusion that they were talking about. Even in William Barr's summary, which is about the hacking element of the election, not the other things that we see where we're like, cause their,

their whole thing was no one hacked or no one coordinated with very specifically the Russian government, which is very different than like WikiLeaks or something else. And those are the things that people need to also bear in mind before you either get so down about it or are acting like the president did nothing at all. And again, even in the summary, it says, now, while there wasn't enough here to bring charges or what we felt were sufficient evidence to charge the president, this does not exonerate him either. That's on the obstruction of justice. Yes.

That's on the obstruction of justice. On the collusion. They basically seem to say that they looked everywhere there should have been evidence. There was no evidence that he conspired with. So, yeah. And I think that was probably just luck. I think that was literally like Russia being, not saying, you know what,

not actually inviting him to do that. Right. Or something that he was just like, because he probably would have. But also what drives me crazy about the Fox News thing and like, boy, I should have learned this lesson by now, is this whole lead up has been, this is a coup, this is a witch hunt, get ready for war, this is all lies.

Right. And then it's released and they're like, we knew it. And it's like, well, you didn't trust this is a coup this is a witch hunt get ready for war this is all lies right and then it's released and they're like we knew it and it's like well you didn't trust this for a second right yeah the whole time we're like they're out to get him they're out to get him right and trump's like oh um robert muller acted honorably yeah yeah yeah it's like you have done nothing but tell us not to trust the federal bureau of. All of a sudden, it's reliable. Right. Fuck you. And that's the, you know, my more out there conservative friends are like, well, now we have to investigate the FBI. It's like, so your theory is that they put together this giant conspiracy to launch an investigation that cleared him.

And you think the Democrats, like like were colluding with them or something um deep state deep state i mean you say that couldn't even do the thing you said it was trying to do so is it well then what what do you make of that i mean matt taibbi uh who is not a conservative pundit uh he's a pretty respected investigative journalist from Rolling Stone. Wrote a pretty thorough and brutal takedown of how the mainstream media went about reporting the Mueller investigation and covered some things that I definitely, I was like, oh, they walked that back? Like different aspects of the report, like the idea that Russian bots were intervening on behalf of Republicans.

Roy Moore in Alabama, like that wasn't a true story, but that was like something that had come out and been sourced in a lot of mainstream outlets. And basically his point is that they would report the story whenever some small thing that seemed to confirm the dossier happened. And then they would walk it back seven weeks later, but you wouldn't actually hear about the walking back of it. And so it was sort of an uneven playing field, essentially. sort of an uneven playing field, essentially. And I mean, his point was basically that we have these two,

we have the Democrat media, Republican media, and the Democrat media never checks itself. So that's something that's been very clear about the Republican media for a long time. And they're much more coordinated, so it can be a little bit frustrating because they have no self-awareness. Their only thing is like accomplishing the mission at hand. But his point is that the Democratic media in specifically in the way that they covered the Russia investigation seemed to kind of succumb to the conservative media's standards of just being sensational. Anytime something came up that sort of led you to believe that this might be true, you would put that on the front page.

And then when that ended up not being that fully fleshed out, you would then kind of put that on the quietly retract yeah exactly so well i mean i think also too for a lot of people especially on the left like the the muller thing might as well have been like a q anon thing for some people on the left yeah they were like oh man you don't even know it's fucking muller time yeah right and that was always i was like no no no no Y'all, that's like in movies. The kind of outcome that you think is going to happen, that's in movies.

And we have a lot, the bigger problems, you know, are the damage that's being done with his presidency. And I think, I hope, you know, this doesn't turn into the Benghazi for the left because I think there's a lot there to investigate. But don't put that at the forefront of everything you do right now. I think there's plenty of time to begin actually looking at everything. First of all, get the motherfucking actual Mueller report so we even know what he found and what the scope was, because we don't know how narrow or broad this whole investigation actually was.

this whole investigation actually was. But I think in terms of how the voting works, again, we said this in our little special pickup episode, but voters don't care about the Russia shit. Right. And I think when you look at the midterms, people were winning off of messaging around healthcare and economic equality and things like that. They did definitely, there are people there who definitely got in as a referendum on Trump, but there were also people who were able to use that energy and not just make it so myopically about because Russia. Right. And I think that's something, yeah, you don't, the Democrats don't want to slip into being

like trying to still figure out this Russia piece because in the elections, that's the thing that they're saying Trump could use as a strategy or as a cudgel is just be like, well, this is the party who kept focusing on Russia. Right. They wanted it so bad. They're still doing a look at them. They've got nothing. They don't care when you can hit the president on so many other things than just this. Literally everything. Yeah. And and I can't remember in Barr's summary. Did he say why Mueller didn't exonerate him for obstruction? He just said go into it it really? I can't

remember. No, it was just merely that he said that Mueller presented arguments for and against charging for obstruction, but ultimately did not make the decision. He let Rod Rosenstein and William Barr make that decision, which is weird because they might as well have recused themselves considering the writing William Barr did prior to him being confirmed as attorney general and Rod Rosenstein being a witness to some of the obstruction with the firing of James Comey. Right. So it's still even like, whatever, just get the real doc out so people can actually see this and stop sort of speculating because it's just, you know, people are running wild

right now. I think we had a guest on who said that they had a conspiracy theory that Barr was actually like doing all this to like get in as a Trojan horse and then he would take Trump down from the inside. Same as a lot of people thought Mueller, even though he was a Republican, was going to take Trump down from the inside. And that turns out not to have been true. It seems like they were... No, that's more fantasy shit. And I think even when he said that, we were like, oh, okay. But deep down, we're like, the guy who was helping

get the Iran-Contra shit swept under the rug is now coming in to sweep some other shit under the rug? He's the rug sweeper. Yeah. So it will continue to unfold but uh hopefully you know people who aren't in the trump uh supporter demographic are able to kind of regroup and get their focus back to things that actually yeah i know because otherwise what sucks is like the optics of it also are sore loser like figure this shit out like you said release the report

figure out why he wasn't exonerated quietly yeah do that and then release it when it's ready like the optics of it also are sore loser. Like figure this shit out. Like you said, release the report, figure out why he wasn't exonerated quietly and then release it when it's ready. Right. But yeah, don't do, yeah, we can't, we can't focus.

Every day can't be a quote from a Democrat being like, well, we need this. And while they do, I think there's ways, I mean, and that's the hard part, right?

Because you need, you need public support to create some pressure to get that done. Yeah. And then how do you balance that without looking like, you know, Trey Gowdy 2.0 on the new Benghazi mission? So again, I think one thing I'll give the GOP, they will win the award for people who don't know what the word exonerate means. Right. At least they got that. There you go.

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What? Yes. Hold on to your butts. Okay, here we go. Quote. This is from an interview that just came out. This is Piers Morgan talking to Mel B. Did you or didn't you with Jerry Halliwell?

Did you sleep with her? Mel B. Yeah, we all slept in a bed together, but not like that. All of us. The 43 year old singer replied. Piers, did you sleep with Jerry like that? Mel B nodded and smiled and said, she's going to hate me for this because she's all posh in her country house and her husband. But it's a fact it just happened and we just giggled at it and that was it huh good for them i had no idea also had no idea that jerry halwa was living a posh life yeah she's married to some formula one boss wow yeah so she's out here and then like then there was like some side gossip apparently mel c was in the audience too like when this was happening, and acted like she

wasn't going to get involved in any of this gossip. Was Mel C baby? Which one was scary? Which one was baby? Mel B is scary spice. Scary. And Mel C was baby. Mel C is sporty.

Oh, no. Mel C is sporty. Emma Bunton is baby spice. Okay. Huh. Anyway, so when Mel C was in the audience, this was, I guess, for Piers Morgan's show, Mel C goes, I don't know anything. Because Mel B looked at her right after she said, she's like, Piers Morgan's show, Mel C goes, I don't know anything. Because Mel B looked at her right after she said, come on, girl.

And she was like, I don't know anything. And then Mel B goes, oh, whatever, Mel. Mel C says, this is all new to me. Piers asked Mel B if there was anything with Mel C. And then Mel B replies, well, when I got my tongue pierced, we all kissed. But that was just a kiss because I wanted to know what it felt like. It was just a silly kiss. Nothing sexual like that.

Hmm. And this is coming. She seems to call sex silly. Yeah. It was just giggly, silly. Yeah. It was just a silly.

Cause they were all living together in the same house. Apparently like once, you know, the, the group was having to like do a lot of work or whatever, but Jerry is not happy with this. Cause this causing friction with her husband who does not like it. Apparently, it says,

and I don't know, this is again more gossip, but it says, since marrying Christian, her husband, Jerry has worked hard to shake off her old playgirl image and sort of reinvent herself as this perfect Stepford wife.

Mel immediately rang Jerry to try to repair the damage because they're about to go on tour. Oh, right. Yeah. I guess maybe they had a different reputation in the uk than they did here because i don't remember thinking of jerry hallowell as like a play girl well she posed in playboy oh she did i think she was one of the first ones to pose in playboy oh i

and was pretty like sexually liberated or whatever so i think maybe that's what it yeah but i i'm not ever like oh yeah jerry come on We're trying to rehab that image. Right. Yeah. But wait, she is sporty. No, Jerry's ginger,

ginger. And she was an ambassador at some point. I can't remember. There was just a ginger spice. Ginger spice. Yeah. It always stood out as shock. And it wasn't very strong.

And the woman of color was scary. Right. So hop on board. Wow. And sporty seemed kind of coded too from LC. yeah i mean that's yeah yes i agree this whole version of wait why is it coded that she's well she does like a tomboy there were rumors that like well but i don't know if there were rumors assumptions maybe that she was gay she was gay got it okay um she might not be. But again, all the nicknames were not very useful for them.

Because I don't know what was scary about her. It must have been her curly hair. That curly ethnic hair. She definitely had a more aggressive personality than I think the other Spice Girls. She was more in your face.

Yeah, I guess she always had that animal print on. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But I don't know. It's scary. Everyone has a fine line. Terrifying, yeah. But, I don't know, it's scary. Like, everyone has like a fine... Terrifying, Miles. It's like

there's sporty. That's neutral. Yeah. Ginger, okay. Baby. Baby. I'm a sexy baby. What's a baby spice, though? Like, if it was on a rack, like, let me put some baby spice on there. I think it's like baby powder. Terrible. You don't put that on your food? No. Yeah, so it sounds like behind

the scenes, it's exactly what the horniest 12 year old boys Were like hoping it was Yeah Was just all of them You gotta get with my friends That was probably the headline everywhere Well yeah I mean this seems like just very

Shrewd branding On her part Yeah sure People tell Piers Morgan Like I remember when I can't remember the actress' name Kim Cattrall Went on his show in the UK And that's when she was like Sarah Jessica Parker's a mean person And I can't remember the actress name but Kim Cattrall went on his show

in the UK and that's when she was like Sarah Jessica Parker is a mean person and I don't want anything to do with her and people were like what?

people spill their guts to him what is it because he's such an objectively shit character I know and no one

just like itchy and yeah maybe he presents like he's like he's basically making like a safe space for messiness. Yeah. You know what I mean?

And he just exudes that where someone's like, I feel like I can get messy as fuck with Pierce. Yeah. And somehow it'll be fine. Yeah. But then you get these like earth shattering revelations. Yeah, a lot of people's heads were spinning. I wonder if the Sex and the City cast is America's Spice Girls.

Honestly, probably. Who are you? Are you a Samantha? Oh, interesting. Interesting. Did people ever say that with the Spice Girls? Yeah, I guess so. Everyone picked a Spice Girl.

I was posh. Yeah, you were definitely posh. I loved Victoria. I actually have never even associated anyone else with a Spice Girl, but I just know the second you walk in a room that guy's posh that guy's posh

yeah the way he he bends that leg for poses sticks his finger out like yep doesn't sing

yeah does it cannot sing quietly mumbles in the background while other people not even mic'd yeah can't even

can't even dance there were. Yeah. Can't even. Can't even dance. There were moments where she wasn't even holding a microphone. They were just like, let's not. We're not even gonna pretend. Yeah. They're like people of the world. She's in the back.

She's like. Yeah. Yep. Man, that song, though. What a great song. Oh, they had a few that were great. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Spice World. Great film, too. Great film. Had it all, man. Aliens. God damn. Fucking it all, man. Aliens? God damn. Motherfucking aliens in that film. Were there? I forgot about that.

Those shits come down, and they're like... But the aliens are horny, though, too. And that concert at the end is rousing. When they sing Spice of Your Life at the end, it is like, oh, you're on your feet. Yo, people of the world. They save the world from horny aliens? I don't know if they save... I don't know if the aliens were an existential threat.

I know at one point they come down and they were smitten with... I could be projecting their horniness of the aliens where I was like, man, if I was these aliens, I would be so horny if I met them. Because I was, well, 14 when that shit came out. Anyway. Isn't that what Dude Wears My Car,

the revelation of that, was aliens too? Oh, yes. Well, hold the fuck up or a cult or something my bad my bad yeah spoilers that has to do with aliens i think so at the end yeah or a hail bop situation there was something weird yeah it's like marshall applewhite hey do you want to hang out at my place come to ranch of santa fe right it's like your car your car might be there yeah uh all right well we always like to check in with the box office uh after a weekend and the results are in uh jordan peele's new movie us is the biggest original live action movie since avatar

so like wait what do you mean? It made $71 million, which is the most of an opening weekend for a movie that isn't like some existing property, like isn't like one of the Marvel movies or something, and isn't like a Pixar movie, basically. Holy shit. Avatar was the last one that

just blew up like that. And it's crazy to think that like Jordan Peele on his, well, I don't know if this is technically his second movie, but on one of his first, you know, I think it is his second.

It is. Okay. Um, is like, people are going to see a movie based on who the director is. Yeah. Yeah. It's incredible.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's also funny. I haven't seen it yet. I'm going to go see it this week, but like how people are already trying, like everyone is like, it's just a horror movie.

This is like get out. Yes. Get out was a little more psychologically involved trying, like everyone is like, it's just a horror movie. This is like Get Out. Yes, Get Out was a little more psychologically involved. And then all the people trying to like parse through. Like fucking Breitbart was like, this is actually a great warning against socialism. Right. What? And he's like, and if that family just had guns, the problems would be solved. Right.

But I'm not even sure what that means. But I guess everyone's taking into it what they they need to to get out of it i have to say he um after get out i i started expecting more from my horror movies i haven't seen us yet but i did start like i remember seeing a quiet place and being like but what did it mean right right do you know what i mean and i'd never had that expectation before but get out was like that good yeah because i think that's what made it even better is that it worked on you more than just like oh shit what the fuck was that right like horror shit you're like yeah oh this is a fucked like this is a headspace it was the smartest movie that came out that year and i don't think a horror movie had done that no because horror movies are always so just like visceral

like right the best horror movie to that point i, by a lot of people's estimation, was The Exorcist. Well, I don't know. Did you see Turistas? Oh, right, right. 2006. Go Home. Oh, yeah. Great film. Where those kids with Olivia Wilde, I think, was in it. Josh Duhamel, where they're on vacation in Brazil.

By the way, Olivia Wilde made her directorial debut at Sundance. No, not Sundance. At South By with a movie called Booksmart that is supposed to be really, really good. Okay. People are doing their things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, Us is not only critically acclaimed, but it is just a huge, huge opening. And our writer, J.M. McNabb, was pointing out that all of the media's headlines were

like shocking how much money it made because i guess all the estimates had it closer to like 40 million dollars maybe 50 million and they usually don't go they're usually not off by more than like a couple million here and there and so it was a big surprise apparently to forecasters but um he was saying that you saw the same headlines with black panther and girls trip and other movies that i don't know like there's something that is surprising to hollywood a lot of dots right now right some some strange similarity between these movies with black protagonists that uh holly Hollywood prognosticators are always like, what the fuck just happened?

It's insane because I actually think they don't see the past. Because you're right, it's the headline every time. It's like, who knew? It's like, we all did. We've known. Everyone knows.

Just more representation. Make the movies. People will come out to see them. They're like, oh, wow, a thing that I can relate to? I'm there, even if it's a fucking whore. There's always so much fucking pressure for any movie that has anything to do with any marginalized group

of like, this better be a hit. And then it isn't, it didn't matter. So hopefully now they see a fucking pattern. Yeah, you would think so. And yeah, we talked just with the Sony hacks. You saw these emails with producers talking about how you shouldn't green light the next Denzel movie because black doesn't travel and shit. Like there's all these like rules of thumb about. Oh, like international.

Yeah, like internationally, Denzel Washington movies aren't going to do very well because they're racist. Not us. No. Denzel is one of my favorites. Oh, my God. You know, I actually I wrote him in for president. Right, exactly. I would have voted for Obama a third time.

But he, yeah, there's all these, like, just shitty, like, behind-the-scenes rules of thumb that are based on nothing. And then now here we see that when you actually make movies by people of color, starring people of color, people actually go see them. Right. Yeah.

And look, look at Jordan Peele, man. Jordan Peele is out here. Yeah. Yeah, the New Yorker called it a towering cinematic achievement. Oh, my God, I can't wait. I know, I really want to see it. The New Yorker. The New Yorker never likes anything. Yeah.

And then when they do at the end, they're like, I don't know if I'd bother. Okay. Anthony Lane is my favorite pros bitch of all time. Anthony Lane is such a bitch. So, so snarky. I know. And finally, and for no real reason, Domino's has added a feature where you can order pizza from your car, which I thought that you could already do via the app. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. Look. Is it just hooking up the smartphone to your... It was such a weird headline. I was like, what do you mean? It's like Domino's is making it easier to order pizza. I'm like, how?

Like, they're going gonna read your mind but it turns out they're collaborating with uh this company called zevo that just does automotive tech and the platform will now allow customers to order via their car's dashboard touchscreen or place a call to their local store while they are stuck in traffic with the push of a couple buttons they can then track their order and arrange pickup at their local dominoes location a lot of work yeah this isn't this isn't news guess i know but it's almost like what's the problem it's solving yeah what how is this better than the phone like right are you ever like oh shit right i'm in the car i can't get my phone out because i respect the laws of not using my phone when i drive can't pull over over. But can order pizza via...

They wanted to be out there. Dummies wanted to be in the news. Yeah. I guess that helps if like... I think their only thing is maybe just to be so aggressively front and center. So even if you get in a car, your car is being like, do you want Domino's? Because you can get it with just press this fucking thing and you can have the delicious, delicious crap pizza.

Crap? Come on, man. I mean, it's, you know what we're talking about. It's chain trash pizza. Crap? Come on, man. I mean, it's, you know, what we're talking about. It's chain trash pizza. It doesn't mean it's bad. My favorite trash pizza. The best of the trash pizzas. Yeah.

You know? Is it really? I like that. And look, and I'll also give Domino's, or Pizza Hut pan pizza. I love Pizza Hut pan pizza. Because it's so greasy. It is.

It's delicious. It's like straight butter. Yeah. Literally butter. Yeah, just greased up. Brian, it's been so fun having you, man. Thank you. Where can people find you, follow you?

I'm just at Brian Safi. It's Brian with a Y. On everything. And then Throwing Shade comes out every Thursday. All right. So you can listen to that everywhere. That's so good. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying?

Oh, yeah. This one was from the Madea account, which from like, you know. It's like official Tyler Perry's Madea account? Yeah. Okay. What has Madea taught you? Damn. I wasn't sure how to answer.

And I enjoy those movies, but I wasn't sure. I just really had to think. To burst into it. What Madea has taught me is if there is anything serious happening, to Kool-Aid man through that wall and make people laugh. Yes. Yeah. And all men cheat. And all men cheat.

That is one thing Medea has taught me. That's right. Put up with nothing. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. A tweet I like is from Megan Simon at MySpaceMegan. It says, someone on Instagram asked to buy nudes for me,

and I was so offended. I'll say it loud, and I'll say it proud. I only send nudes for free to men who have tricked me into thinking we have an emotional connection. That's great. And Hannah Boone at Boone Comedy tweeted, someone told me they're combating depression and I'm like, whoa, that's rad.

I do whatever mine tells me to. And Jen Merritt tweeted, men really be like, I know I've never said anything nice to you, but that insult I just gave you was a joke which you should have known, you idiot. Fabulous.

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