The Daily Zeitgeist - Woke Capitalism, $50K Clone Dogs 2.28.18

Episode Date: March 1, 2018

In episode 94, Miles & guest host Dan O'Brien are joined by comedian Carmen Angelica to discuss Jared Kushner's security clearance, Ben Carson's 30k office dining set, Dick's Sporting Good's, NRA ...TV, Barbra Streisand cloning her dog, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:08 Zeitgeist. Oh, thank you so much. Who did that? Who hit me with that? Oh, Daniel caught me slipping. Yes, it is February 28th, 2018. My name is not Jack O'Brien. It is actually Miles Gray, a.k.a. when the Jack's away, the Miles will gray, or play,
Starting point is 00:02:24 however you want to do that many of you hit me with that aka and we're gonna leave that in because i'm live streaming now and this is how it goes uh so look i'm also joined now by a very special guest host uh one of our favorites one of your favorites the man the myth the legend comedian author expert on the presidents uh so many different things uh you know the subject of investigations from the Secret Service as well. Mr. Daniel O'Brien. That's right, Daniel O'Brien, a.k.a. Dan Yellow. Is it me you're looking for? Who gave you that a.k.a.?
Starting point is 00:02:55 Wobblehead on Twitter. You know what? I saw you tweet yesterday, like, looking for a.k.a.'s. One of the more impressive ones to me was the person who did the bombs over Baghdad one. I was willing to, like, Daniel O'Brien. Anyway, because that's my own thing, and I just shoehorned that in. And in our third seat, our zeitgeist, if you will, the wonderful, I guess there's so many ways to describe you. You are a comedian.
Starting point is 00:03:20 You are a writer, a director, just a general creative force to be reckoned with, and friend. Carmen, Angelica, how are you? I'm good. How are you? Good. And someone gave you an AK. They did? It was no matter the weather, you come with the pleather.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I do. Because you are wearing a wonderful ensemble. I felt like I wanted to really bring something to the table that was pleather, so I did. I brought my most pleather. There you go. Pleather overalls? Pleather overalls. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Something subtle. Something just, you know. To show that you are in touch with the working man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As we said before. So, guys, wow. It's so good to have you guys here. And many people are very excited to have you all here.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I want to know something, Carmen. What is something from your search history that lets people know sort of like what you're about, who you are? I Googled specifically fun potatoes. Fun potatoes. Fun potatoes. And I think it was – I think we can move on. I don't think we're going to rush.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Yeah. It was definitely one of those, I would say, late-night lazy Googles where I was sitting and being like, I've been like using my potatoes in boring ways. In boring ways like just for eating? Like specifically like I'm like, I always make potatoes the same way. And like what? But instead of being like good recipes for potatoes. You just said fun. I was like fun potatoes.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Because it was one of those lazy Google moments. Yeah. Do you recall anything that came up? Well, I found out more than just eating ways of potatoes. Oh. But a lot of it was like weird, you know, like someone was like, fun science projects with potatoes. And it was like, you know, make a light bulb light up with it. Or do that bit.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Was that Charlie Chaplin with the forks? Yeah, yeah. Making it walk. And abe simpson did it and then the the people from the estate of charlie chaplin came and switched potatoes um wait so how do you normally make them um i feel like i do a real like either like a i love mashed potatoes but you know trying to be healthy so a lot of times i just roast them and like it's like an olive oil with like some garlic, like powder or salt or something. Um, but I want to like, like paprika is so exciting and like, I want to do more with my potatoes.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I like to get the big ones and make really big ass, uh, like potato skins with whatever I want to put in there. And like broccoli and cheese, if I want to pretend that I'm being healthy or something like that. You make potato skins? Yeah. I haven't made potato skins ever. Oh, really? I've only bought them. I've never made them.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Oh, yeah. You make them yourself. You're in complete control of what goes in them. I'd imagine one would be. You know how cooking works. You don't say. Suddenly someone comes in. He's like, you better put this rock in there.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And you're like, okay, okay. Carmen, what's something that's underrated? Oh, man. Okay. So right now I just recently became obsessed with this Netflix show that I feel like I haven't heard people talking about. But I'd like to believe it's because it's underrated because I think it's amazing. It's called Travels With My Father. Oh, yeah. With the English comedian? Yes. It's called Travels with My Father.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Oh, yeah, with the English comedian? Yes. Jack Whitehallhead? Whitehallhead? Whitehall. I just discovered him through that, which I'm sure everybody else knows about him. But I thought that show was incredible because not only was it a travel show, but it had comedy, and then there was these sweet moments with the dad, but it was also very funny.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Now, is it good for people who have daddy issues? i can't watch this is us because i cry when the fucking music comes on and my girlfriend thinks something's wrong it's fucked up that show it's manipulative it's a manipulative show especially with uh sterling k brown storyline with his dad trying to get anyway uh How was that for you? I enjoyed it because he is like part of the whole bit and I don't know if it's like a bit or if it – it feels real but very funny. It's like he feels like he's been – he's always trying to impress his dad and his dad is like a very like British, like stiff off a lip like guy. And he doesn't travel. He's never really traveled and he so he
Starting point is 00:07:25 takes his dad like on a gap year with him and so he wants to do all of like the gap year things which is like go to raves they do they end up going to the thailand for the moon like moon parties or whatever festival yeah and they end up like his dad like goes to a rave with him and it's just like really funny and and like is there an arc to their relationship? Like are they trying to get to a certain place emotionally with the two of them? I mean he definitely is like I want to take my dad traveling with me and I want to like have like a close bonding moment. And they like do. There's like a point where like he's playing soccer in front of his dad and he's like when he was little, he wasn't that good. But then he's playing with like a group of people and his dad is like, you doing pretty well and it was like actually i was like oh like he really likes his soccer but
Starting point is 00:08:09 it was like very it was like really fun was it travels with my father though it is travels with my father guys check into that i would like to second it is one of the funniest shows i've seen who are right who was who is this thank you and was just saying, I was dying watching it at some point. It's like his father and his relationship, it's such opposites that it's beautiful. And they're just in Thailand and the father is so upset the whole time. And it is so funny. Wow. It's really, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I think it's really fun. And then they also go in history of the locations that they're traveling to. Right. So I thought it was a really cool and funny travel show, which I've never seen. Okay. also go in like history of like the like the locations that they're traveling to right um so i thought it was like a really cool and funny travel show which okay yeah we'll have to get into that uh carmen on the other end of the spectrum what is something that is fucking just overrated um okay this is my unpopular opinion uh and so it's unpopular well this isn't unpopped so we should brand that as something all right it's. It's not well regarded. It's an opinion that is not popular.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I actually think that TV shows about people doing comedy is really overrated. TV shows, movies, I think it's really overrated. And I'm coming from this as somebody who does comedy. Oh, my God, yeah. Right. I'm getting so sick of seeing like – The meta shows about the struggle? Oh, and then I did comedy and no one laughed. as somebody who does comedy. I'm getting so sick of seeing the shows that are like, oh, and then I did comedy
Starting point is 00:09:28 and no one laughed. I'm like, I don't care. Tell me about any other story. I don't want to hear about the comedians. Particularly who? Let's call out names. What shows? If you don't want to drag Crashing,
Starting point is 00:09:41 I can do that. Crashing is definitely one of the ones. What about Marvelous Ms. Maisel? That one is one that I actually like because it's historical. It's tough, though. It's tough. What's the one on Showtime? I'm Dying Up Here?
Starting point is 00:09:53 I'm Dying Up Here. What about that one? Isn't that historical, too? I can't. I'm Dying Up Here because to me, I feel like with the – here's the difference. I mean Marvelous Ms. Maisel is like an exception for me because it goes into like the history of like being a housewife in the 50s and how much like how hard that was. But I didn't get that from I'm Dying Up Here. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:12 It was all about the struggle of the stand up. And also they weren't doing great stand up. Right. So it was like, oh, yeah, that's why nobody's laughing. That's why you're dying up there. At least in Marvelous Miss Maisel, the stand up was good. Yeah. I just I love I really loved it. I loved it too. C Maisel, the stand-up was good. Yeah. I just, I loved, I really liked that show.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I loved it too. Crashing, I was really feeling season one, and then I started watching season two less and less. Yeah. I saw the first one, I was like, oh, cool. Then I tuned in this next week, and I was like, all right. And then the third week, I had it on and wasn't watching it. I was doing other shit.
Starting point is 00:10:37 So that's when I knew. I'm still watching it because I'm a completist, and I started it. Oh. And I'm a big Pete Holmes stand-up fan. I like his stuff a whole lot, but that show, I watch every episode and every once in a while there'll be a really cool moment, but I still watch it and I, out loud in my apartment,
Starting point is 00:10:54 am saying, why are we making this? Why are we doing this? I don't... We know Pete Holmes ends up fine. It's another... I know where he is now, And this story ends well for him. He has an HBO show where he looks back at his whole life. But yeah, shout out to Scott Garrison who listens to the show, my homie.
Starting point is 00:11:12 He's taken a few photos for Pete Holmes album covers. I just want to fit that in because he listens to the show. Yeah. I do think it's like there are some that are done well and there are aspects that are done well. But there are so many now that I'm just like, can we get on to other stories? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what do you propose? So you want to just get rid of all shows that are sort of biographical or like the focus
Starting point is 00:11:33 is about the struggle of a comedian? I think the focus of a struggle of a comedian is getting a little old. Getting old, yeah. And I know this means like I'm sure later in life I will never be able to write because somebody will take this clip and I will never be able to write a thing about my life. Um, but yeah, this hypocrite, I know. But, uh, but I, I think it's, it's, I think there was something to be said about like, I'd love to hear other stories, especially as a comedian.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Maybe it's just me being a comedian and being like, I don't need to hear this. I, I live this. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's tough because you always want to comedian and being like, I don't need to hear this. I live this. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. It's tough because you always want to find out, like, I feel like where this comes from is the Judd Apatow influence of write what you know. Like, tell the story that you know. And so a lot of comedians have taken that to heart and like, yeah, this is the life I know, so this is the thing that I'm going to do. We all get it.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Y'all were broke boys at one point. And it's tough out there going from mic to mic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like surely you've done something else. You could tell that story instead. Please call her Carmen, not Shirley. Moving on.
Starting point is 00:12:35 So let's get into the show. Oh, also thank you to everybody out there in the Zeitgang that was hitting me with local stories, hitting us with local stories. It's very – there are a lot of eye-opening things that I will have to take some time to digest, but I will cover maybe a couple on Friday just as an update for that. So again, with format, you know what it is. We're just talking about whatever everybody's talking about, and we try and do it in a way that's intelligent and funny, I guess. So to kick the show off, we always like to ask our guests, Carmen, what is a myth that people believe in know in their
Starting point is 00:13:05 heart of hearts that you just know there's just some straight up bullshit um well recently i'm starting to feel really strongly about the food pyramid food plate whatever because i did a bunch of research on it and uh the usda was like a big influence on the original food pyramid which had like all of the wheat at the bottom like all of the wheat at the bottom, like all of the grains at the bottom. And then like at the very top, it was like candy. Then they became a new food pyramid, which had all the little like strips of triangles. Right. And that also was inaccurate and very confusing for people.
Starting point is 00:13:39 And then they now have the plate. And even now people are arguing against that because it has like, what is it? A quarter, like a quarter veggies, a quarter fruit, a quarter protein, and then a quarter wheat. And then in the corner is like a little dairy and then that's it. And like, they're actually fine. And like oil, I think, or something, fat is like, I don't know where fat is on that, but it's, to me, it feels like we keep finding different things out. Now there are really good fats. We've always been taught fat is bad and fat is good. I would say following any
Starting point is 00:14:14 of the food pyramid things is a myth. It's crazy because we're also still teaching that. I would just do this. Look at what the longest lifespan is for a given country and look at what they're eating. Yeah. And just copy that because they're probably eating well and they've probably found a good balance of proteins and wheats or glutens or whatever the fuck you want to call it.
Starting point is 00:14:37 But yeah, because I think of my grandmother in Japan. She lived to be like 101 years old and her diet was like – it's like sort of a mostly like a pescatarian diet. Yeah. And with good fats and things like that. But it was never – they were never like, oh, but did you eat your corn today? Was food pyramid specifically taught in either of your houses? I had – I remember in school food pyramid was taught. I do too.
Starting point is 00:14:58 They had it just like hung up on the wall. But I got home and there was no – we never discussed it. Yeah. No, it was just a thing that was – they told you about. But like you'd go home and there was no we never discussed it yeah no it was just a thing that was they told you about but like you'd go home and like look your parents are working they're like hey eat this mcdonald's or yeah right but we always had grains i do remember like and now like my parents are starting like not really have grains as much which i remember we used to always have rice or um or like pasta because we're ital. There you go. We had a lot of pasta.
Starting point is 00:15:25 We were Italian. It's a family with three boys. Did you say we were Italian? Yeah. We stopped. Oh, okay. We're no longer identified as Italian. But yeah, it was a family with three growing boys and two working parents.
Starting point is 00:15:36 So there was no pyramid that could be acknowledged. It was like, what can I make in volume? It's chicken today, everyone. That's what it is. Yeah. What can I make in volume? It's chicken today, everyone. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah. Well, I've just actually been informed by our super producer, grandmaster of the boards, Nick Stumpf, that what I'm talking about does exist. It's called the Blue Zone Diet where they do look at where people are living long and they're saying, eat that. Because I guess that makes sense, right? What we put in our body, it kind of determines where we end up. So thank you for that myth. The food pyramid is bullshit, right? That's what we're getting at with that.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I think the food pyramid or whatever the new – Food plate or whatever, yeah. Because I – yeah, I think we keep fixing it and then finding out that like we did it wrong. Yeah, all that shows you is who's contributing what money to lobbying. It's like, oh, 25 percent is to the meat lobby and the other is to the fruits and vegetables. Anyway, but that's the pessimistic view. So guys, just eat like your grandparents did and live as long as they did unless they're in america because that was a terrible diet uh so let's move into the news so jared kushner had a really bad day yesterday uh his whole basically security clearance was kicked down from top secret to secret now that might not seem important, but it is because when you have top secret, you are seeing like the most sensitive of information in terms of how we gather it and things like that.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And just basically like shit you wouldn't want people outside of our government knowing. Right. And that's good because let's look at what his workload is, right? Because he's the smartest man that Donald Trump has ever met, he has the distinct honor of being in charge of improving relations with China, Japan, Mexico, solving the opioid crisis, working on government efficiency, infrastructure, trade, peace in the Middle East. I could go on. No, I mean like – Just like the little things on the table. Yeah, just the shit that doesn't matter. But it's insane that his status got downgraded because he solved everything on that list i know home run after home run exactly
Starting point is 00:17:28 i mean yeah opioids are out yeah uh mexico's like we're done sending our people across the border and we're doing these trade deficits the government is working so efficiently i think infrastructure is at all-time high uh i mean guys yeah he's done it well actually no that's bullshit because let's really think about this so after rob porter that whole rob porter scandal with one of the staffers of the white house basically abusing his wives and the fbi being like this guy should not be anywhere near any sensitive information the fallout from that has caused john kelly to like tighten it up a little bit although he has a bit of like a war going on with the javanka arm of the white house uh but he's basically like yo, now you can only look at like,
Starting point is 00:18:05 not the big boy stuff, but like the kind of big boy stuff. I do. You say big boy and kind of big boy. I actually was surprised to learn how like inherently caddy this, uh, the naming of things is that it's, it's literally secret and top secret.
Starting point is 00:18:19 That's not like us coming to that. Cause it just feels like very pop secret, very high school status where it's like, what's your thing? Say secret. Oh, I'm secret. Bye. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:28 You can't sit here. Yeah. Can I see your badge? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't get the you don't get the hot guys. I would love to see the notes that are being passed under the table at those. You know, it's a bunch of fucking crazy text with emojis. Like, you know, they have an emoji for Trump.
Starting point is 00:18:44 They have an emoji for like Javanka and them. Like it's, oh man, I would love to see that. And I want to see like everyone else's, like Eric Trump's badge that is just like, oh, normal news. You only get normal news. You don't even get secret. You just get like readily available public information. It's just also very disturbing because like this article came out in the Washington Post
Starting point is 00:19:01 that basically said that like other countries just knew that because he is in such a desperate need for money for that billion-dollar building, 666 Fifth Avenue, I believe, in New York that he's just underwater on, that his whole – he's very vulnerable because he's constantly looking for ways to get that funded. It was like it was through intercepts that like in wiretaps that they found out that like other governments are talking about like, yo, we can play this dude and get some shit out of them or, you know, you know, unwittingly get him to cooperate with whatever a given country's endgame is, which is very bad in terms of just negotiating. Right. If you go into a negotiation blind and not know, like they're probably going to offer you this because that's because they want this or whatever the case may be. That's a very simplified version of it. But without this intelligence, I don't know how he'll effectively even be able to do anything. Not that he was, but he just shouldn't be in there I think is really what the point is when you look at all this. Because the White House and this whole entire administration is just filled with a bunch of homies who I guess Donald Trump is just like, yeah, do whatever you want, man. Like you've got to get your building funded.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Like do that however you want to, which helps us go into this next thing about Ben Carson. Because apparently this motherfucker, while he was busy trying to gut all these government programs from housing and urban development, you know, which are vital things. And like you're not evicting people from like Section 8 housing and shit like that. He basically ordered a $30,000 dining room set for his office at hud now i don't even know anybody with a thirty thousand dollar car okay so a thirty thousand dollar dining set is fucking wild i don't even know that there is such a thing as a thirty thousand dollar dining thirty thousand dollar office dining set this isn't even his home. It's in his office at housing and urban development. I thought this was like maybe wedding China.
Starting point is 00:20:49 No, this is like when he does his like, like work lunch, he'll be like, all right, should we go, you know, on my fine Brazilian teak dining table, whatever the fuck it is. But I mean, like you look at what they showed pictures of what it looks like now. Sure. It's a little Spartan, as they would say. It looks a little dated. But at the end of the day, like you're not in the job to be like at the ritz-carlton you're there to do a public good for people and it's just very offensive because this follows the same pattern
Starting point is 00:21:14 of like how a lot of these uh the leadership is in the government right now like ryan zinke for example he spent like forty thousand dollars on helicopter rides in nevada and then he just said oh i was looking at a wildfire. Like he put it to the wildfire prevention thing. And when push pressed about, he's like, yeah, I was just kind of flying around Nevada, like on a helicopter tour. So that was one thing. And of many, obviously, Scott Pruitt of the EPA. He was in the spotlight because he was only taking like first and business class everywhere he goes because he was like, well's actually safer for me because when i sit and coach everybody's rude to me yo then maybe
Starting point is 00:21:50 fucking stop denying climate change asshole like there's a reason why everyone's rude to you because you are a fucking you're on the wrong side of everything it's insane that the government is staffed with the dumbest group of criminals and morons. Like it's not even, uh, I mean, I'm super glad that Steve Bannon is out, but he was someone that was like, you're like a, a nefarious and cool person with an agenda.
Starting point is 00:22:12 The rest of them are just like dumb cronies and crooks. They're not even, they don't, they don't even have a plan to like dismantle the country or anything. It's just like, I just like, I like expensive dining rooms. And like,
Starting point is 00:22:24 yeah, I'm, I'm really underwater on this real estate deal so i just need like i need like 20 grand to keep me going man just like just like just fucking coast on it come on china put down on this building man i'll help y'all out yeah so it's very inept and guys like this is just where our government's headed uh so i guess on that note let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.
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Starting point is 00:26:51 This morning, Dick's Sporting Goods, the owner, basically announced that they will no longer be selling assault-style rifles at Dick's Sporting Goods, which is, you know, very commendable because we don't have a government that is going to do that at this point and it seems like now uh private businesses are taking it on their own to be like well if you're not gonna do it then i can already see that this is not a good thing so we will cease to sell them uh and it's interesting to think about because it looks like i don't know like i feel like i culture might be moving faster than the government is in a way like where the government has just sat on their hands and now just private business is like, okay, well, if y'all aren't going to do it, then we'll fucking do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yeah. Yeah. I feel like corporate America is having a lot of influence. I mean, obviously has a lot of influence in a lot of ways, but like even recently, Georgia passed a law and then Disney was like, we're not going to do business with you since you passed that. Yeah. It's which law?
Starting point is 00:27:44 It was, um, I think, oh, I'm trying to remember exactly, but I believe it was one of the gay marriage ones. It was an we're not going to do business with you since you passed that. Yeah, it's – Which law? It was – I think – I'm trying to remember exactly, but I believe it was like – It was one of the gay marriage ones? LGBT. It was an LGBT. Recently? Yeah. It was like against LGBTQ. Oh, well, I know last week or maybe this week they did pass a bill in the state senate in Georgia that made it like very hard for LGBT couples to adopt.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Yeah. Is that the bill you're talking about? I think that's it. Yeah, and I know – yeah, because a lot of studios and networks do shoot in Georgia. That has always been a thing. Like, I think also when a few it's not even about a corporation is like being political they're being partisan now like like you're picking sides and like companies have to really focus on like what do we stand for because that this is not even just about like consumers who are going to buy your product or go to your store or whatever it's about like employee retention and and hiring like i'm not going to work for a company that is openly supporting nra or openly trying to like not make cakes for gay weddings these are the companies
Starting point is 00:28:52 that i'm going out for yeah that was his uh baker yeah yeah um but it's crazy the companies all of them have to like take aside this uh ceo of axios jim van de hey said uh think of your brand as a political candidate. You need to be hyper aware of how you're seen by your core constituencies and by the broader public. That was just not a thing when we were growing up. No, not at all. I can look at like every corporation that I see and be like, ah, Papa John's. They don't like when football players exercise their First Amendment protests.
Starting point is 00:29:21 So like fuck Papa John's forever. And just like how aware we all are and how companies the companies need to be is is a really fascinating shift that like i'm always hesitant these days to be like i think this is a good thing right because i'm because why would it be right well because i know some people if you're more cynical about the decision by dicks it's like well look they're just doing that because like it's popular or whatever and frankly i don't give a fuck what their motivation is. If you're doing that, then great. If you're going to cease to sell it, you can sit back and pretend like,
Starting point is 00:29:51 well, you are for selling assault rifles, but you're effectively not. At the very least, it's a good decision. I know in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, they also said that they would stop selling assault rifles, and then later on they did. But I think that was in their other stores that they own, like their hunting and fishing specific stores. But again, I think it's a great move that now corporations, I think,
Starting point is 00:30:11 also realize that because consumers are more savvy now that, you know, the culture wars have begun. Okay. You know, like, and this is kind of like indicative of that, of like now they're saying like, and you can just tell, for example, because Dick's did something like this and earlier in the week, Delta canceled their discount to NRA members to go to their annual convention, that it's got a lot of people in their feelings. And so what's interesting is this – you really are seeing this sort of culture war thing. It's very clear because the lieutenant governor of Georgia was saying like, why are they punishing conservatives?
Starting point is 00:30:49 And that seemed to be sort of like the talking point that everybody in the Georgia GOP is using. Because earlier, I think yesterday or this morning, one of the state senators from Georgia went on CNN to push a weird, like, conspiracy theory that, well, Delta, you know, they give discounts to Planned Parenthood. And we're not really sure where he got that because it's just a fucking talking point. Anyway, listen to this. Do we have a clip? I think we have a clip. Delta has said, you know what, we have this agreement where NRA members would get a discount. And even though we support Second Amendment rights, we're not now going to honor that discount. I mean, what's your impression of that? Well, again, why did they come out and do that Saturday? I mean, they could have waited for a couple more days, maybe another week or so, so Casey could have pushed this bill through.
Starting point is 00:31:30 But they decided to come out and do it Saturday. And that energized their base. Like you said, it energized those people that love our country, that love our Constitution, that love our Second Amendment right. And if they're going to pull the discount for NRA members, why not pull it for Planned Parenthood or some of the left organizations out there? Well, wait, wait, wait. Where's the discount? You're saying, where are you getting that? The Delta gives a discount to Planned Parenthood members. Well, again, they're out there giving discounts to other liberal-leaning organizations.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I'll answer the question. Where are you getting that? I mean, look, I just need to be clear on this because you just indicated that they give discounts to Planned Parenthood members. I haven't seen that anywhere. I've seen allegations of that on right wing blogs. I've been able to find no verification of that. We have people looking at that. Where are you getting that? I was in a caucus meeting yesterday morning where the governor of Georgia was in there trying to convince us all, basically threatening us that if we don't pass this, that things are going to be taken out of the budget, that if we don't do this, again, there's going to be consequences. And other senators, as well as myself, we looked it up on Google. And I apologize, I don't know the exact source right now, but my campaign can get it to you
Starting point is 00:32:37 if you need to. Wow. I looked it up on Google. Well, I Googled fun potato. And you did find some fun shit. I did find some fun potato. That's a fun clip to laugh at that cheese dick who doesn't know what he's talking about. And the rest of the clip is fun.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Like the reporter doesn't let up, which I love. But it's still separate from how much I'm enjoying this guy being an idiot. It's a really – George is in a really weird place right now where Delta is like a bunch of kids died again in a school. So we no longer support the NRA and in a very small way. It's not even like if you're an NRA, you can't fly Delta. You're banned. It's just – no, we're just not giving you discounts. And then the lieutenant governor, Casey Cagle, is going to kill any tax legislation that is going to help Delta. They're now threatening,
Starting point is 00:33:27 financially threatening Delta on behalf of the NRA, essentially, which is, and like his quote about it was really troubling. He says, corporations cannot attack conservatives and expect us to not fight back, which is now it's conservatives versus Delta, I guess is what,
Starting point is 00:33:43 like it's the NRA. It's the NRA. It's the NRA. Yeah. Yeah. And just like I'm just trying to wrap my head around how we're actually framing these arguments anymore. Yeah, it shouldn't. It's not a conservative thing. This is someone who is probably has his eyes on a gubernatorial election campaign.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And he's out there with his chest out because he knows that's the base that will probably elect him if he wants to run for governor. So it's all these optics in the name of like who their sort of corporate benefactors are. And in this case, it would be the gun industry. Yeah. And it's bonkers because like Delta is one of the – I think the biggest employer in Atlanta. In the state of Georgia. So that's the choice that Delta needs to make is I have to support the NRA or I run the risk that the government is going to kill legislation that helps me and helps me to hire more employees. Well, the thing that you're stating was a gas, a jet fuel tax, which is already kind of like, all right. You can look at that as being not totally necessary, that they need a break on their jet fuel.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Because like yesterday we talked about, too, after the GOP tax bill that was voted in December, they like made $150 million instantly in like the fourth quarter of 2017. So $50 million. Like, and I think that's where Delta is like, all right, whatever. And initially, I think Delta even suggested to the state that they're like, no, we don't really like that's cool. But we also don't mind like that to help build the roads better, like for infrastructure. You don't have to give us – like why don't you all – so yeah. And it's about a discount. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:14 It's about a discount. Right. Like I would – at first when they were like a Planned Parenthood discount, I was like, I wish I knew about this discount. And Planned Parenthood had to come out. They're like, yeah, we don't offer – we don't do business with corporations. Like we're just here doing what's right and like we don't need to incentivize that with like corporate discounts to anyone. But it's about a discount. Like sorry, they get to give their discounts where they want to give their discounts.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Yeah. Right. Exactly. And it's – you're not – again, we said this yesterday. It's not your God-given right for a fucking discount. Right. So choose wisely. And I guess the goal –
Starting point is 00:35:44 It's in the Second Amendment. Right. Exactly. Get discount on flights. Yeah. That, you know, choose wisely. And I guess the goal in the second amendment. Right. Exactly. Discount on flights. Yeah. That's what we fought for. So along with that, too, like there's also been a big push for, you know, a lot of people have been calling on, you know, obviously FedEx by people like companies like FedEx who are still doing business with NRA to, you know, maybe reevaluate their relationship with their discounts with the NRA. And FedEx is like, nah, fuck that. But also Apple, Amazon, Roku, and like other big tech companies, they're under a little bit of stress because a lot of people are saying, look, you guys host NRA TV on your
Starting point is 00:36:19 streaming services. Like you can get on Apple TV, Fire TV, YouTube, Roku, like fucking anything, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, just nonstop like old angry white dudes complaining about immigrants and how liberals are going to take our guns and it's going to be Holocaust 2.0, which is like one of their favorite talking points, which is like what happened with the Jews because they didn't have guns. It's like, OK. have guns it's like okay uh so now a lot of companies like roku and them they're saying look we don't want to censor anyone's uh viewpoints because we don't have a quote-unquote commercial relationship with the nra and they don't want to do anything that they don't want to censor viewpoints they only would censor hate speech and misleading content okay so let's believe that that's the case that the nra tv is completely free of hate speech or misleading content. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Do you guys want to bet if the NRA is the most objective form of entertainment about the Second Amendment out there? Just wild stab at it. Carmen, what do you think? Okay, that's a head scratcher. Daniel? Carmen, what do you think? Okay, that's a head scratcher. Daniel?
Starting point is 00:37:34 As someone who has never seen NRA TV or, in fact, heard about it until this news story, I fully believe them to be misleading liars. Yeah, okay. Well, let's just kind of go down this a little bit. I mean, if you've ever watched it, this thing, obviously, we've seen Dana Loesch, the spokeswoman, and the kind of fiery shit that she says. But we basically know that NRA TV isn't just like an informative look at hunting culture or firing ranges. It's now like a full-on propaganda machine for the far right. And if you look, a lot of their programming does violate the terms that these companies are saying. So, for example, yeah, exactly. Like one of the things is they always liken like liberalism to terrorism. So in 2016, this correspondent on NRA TV, Chuck Holton, he compared liberals to ISIS because they quote, they both hate America and are for open borders.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Like, yeah, I don't want to go there because he could even feel like, oh, let's try and pretend we're not a total fucking propaganda machine. And also even like with the women's march, like the host, like actually called feminist, quote, whiny, out of touch children, you know, and looked in the camera and said they were marching because they hate you, the viewer. Like that. I don't know. Is that misleading? Well, I mean, it's so far I'm not seeing anything false. Carmen, you and I were both at the Women's March and we did it because we hated whoever was watching NRA TV. Yeah, not the leadership in the country, specifically NRA TV viewers. Liberals being the same as ISIS.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Like anytime ISIS has done some terrible act, they've been like, ugh, but I get it. Right, right, right, right. And also let's – how it. Right, right, right, right. And also, how about hate speech, right? Because they're completely free of hate speech from what I understand, at least from what I think.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I don't know what hate speech is. Would you call it love speech? Yeah, maybe. But our favorite, Dana Lowe, she went on a little bit of some transphobic BS rant about Chelsea Manning was just saying, quote,
Starting point is 00:39:22 I'm not going to suddenly pretend that this individual who's pretending to be a woman is a part of my sisterhood. He went through maturity and puberty as a male just because you get some boobs and you put some red lipstick on poorly applied and a very poor smoky eye. Bad dye job. That don't make you a chick. She literally said that don't make you a chick. Dana Loach has just been like a trash gift that won't stop like yeah when i saw her on tv last week was like my first exposure to her was when she was talking with
Starting point is 00:39:49 the survivors of the shooting and making a complete ass of herself oh my god it takes like 20 minutes of twitter searching to be like oh man all of her opinions are wrong she's just like a full-blown garbage person who's been saying ignorant shit since Twitter existed. Since Time Immemorial. Yeah. No, really. And then even those first NRA TV ads that came out where she was basically calling for armed conflict with liberals essentially. It's like, they will perish in the political fires.
Starting point is 00:40:18 It's like, whoa. That's cool. Also, I don't get the – she was like, her lipstick was applied poorly. I was like, oh, jeez. Like there are so many – it's like exponentially problematic in so many different ways. I was like, please stop. You are bad at – You don't have one good thought in that head.
Starting point is 00:40:39 And like obviously with misleading content in 2014, they falsely claimed that data was being collected so the government could confiscate your guns and also compared gun control to Jewish persecution in Ukraine during the Holocaust as well as Jim Crow laws because the gun owners are so oppressed. So in 2014, yes, they said that, yeah, it was about the data specifically they would confiscate your weapons. Said that, yeah, it was about the data specifically. They would confiscate your weapons. And also another great thing was, of course, recently with the Parkland shooting, someone basically compared it to Benghazi. That's a very interesting thing. And this is the quote. You know, I can't help draw comparisons to Benghazi.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Now, that was a terrorist attack. And you could make the argument that this guy was a terrorist. No, he was a Nazi probably based on some evidence that came out that I think he had swastikas on the magazines of his kind. Anyway, back to the quote. But terrorist is sexier because that usually evokes someone that is not white in someone's head. Anyway, so a terrorist, when he rained down on that school, you had so many warnings, Chris. You and the men that you fought with over there warned about Benghazi over and over again that there were threats and there were security flaws and issues there now we see that there were warnings over and over again we as americans i'm sad to say we're not learning lessons from other events that we could have learned whether it was benghazi or
Starting point is 00:41:56 any other school shooting this school wasn't ready and they should have been there's never been a time in my life where i even thought the phrase, you know, I can't help but draw comparisons to Benghazi. Everywhere I look, I'm just like, this doesn't remind me of Benghazi. At all. Do you understand the dynamics for that anyway? Rather than the real hot right-wing talking point that they love Benghazi. Oh, my God. If you can compare Benghazi to anything, that gets them so excited.
Starting point is 00:42:22 They love it. They just like saying it because they know that it gets everyone's hackles up. Benghazi. It's fun. Just say it. Benghazi to anything, that gets them so excited. They love it. They just like saying it because they know that it gets everyone's hackles up. Benghazi. It's fun. Just say it. Benghazi. Good mouthfeel. Good mouthfeel.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Great mouthfeel. So yeah, again, this is just – it's really just not an issue of this political divide between gun owners and gun control advocates anymore. Like this channel is fucking crazy. Yeah. And they just talk about shit that really has nothing to do with guns and just pushing a very dangerous message to people that is not useful um okay and consumers are trying to get it off they're putting pressure on amazon and yeah and youtube and all that to get rid of it that's good yeah so i think people at the very least look we're not gonna be able to boycott like amazon i think because people just let's be real most people are so dependent on amazon prime
Starting point is 00:43:05 and things like that that even if you said well then i'm going to go to walmart you're like well they sell a ton of guns too and also walmart is like destroying middle america anyway uh let's be real uh so it's hard to like effectively you know how do we boycott in this age is a very interesting subject to talk about because we don't but you know what like do we i think the most you can do is at this point with some of these companies put enough pressure on them to get them to act because clearly the government won't do that either we do put pressure with our wallets i will say we do yeah do stop like uber definitely felt it like with the travel ban shit uh when they came through to try and undercut the taxis and shit like that so yes i think it's very like there is a power that
Starting point is 00:43:44 consumers have and it'd be weird that this somehow could be like a consumer-led revolution. Yeah, it is. It's an interesting responsibility and interesting the things that I feel like I need to know about companies now that I'm going to just like – because every company is taking a stand on different things because you can't be FedEx. You can't be silent. You need to pick something and like show what your company stands for. But it's still – I'm not really looking forward to a future where i walk into an establishment like yo armies the fuck you think about climate change yeah right like oh we believe it's real and man-made okay i'm gonna get one all right i guess i'll have a big month you're on my list yeah actually no
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Starting point is 00:49:10 in 2017 very tragically because dogs die that was so well pronounced samantha samantha thank you so much samantha's isn't she's our favorite sex in the city character oh no that's our anyway that's a complete tangent i went on because we were laughing about that last week anyway so yes samantha died trazing in 2017 but you know what when you got fucking money you don't have to accept death okay all you gotta have is fifty thousand dollars and you can fucking do a xerox of a fucking dog. And so basically with like cells from the dog's stomach and mouth, she was able to create two clones at 50,000 a piece. And they're just straight up living clone dogs that she has of her beloved old dog. I love that it's not even one clone.
Starting point is 00:49:55 It's two clones. It's like, I beat death twice. Yeah, exactly. They're like, fuck you. Fuck you twice. It's like daring God. Like, are you going to take him away from me? God?
Starting point is 00:50:04 Okay. Well, guess what? Two. You want to see how far this goes what do we learn god yeah and watch until they like have some really bizarre health issues down the road uh but yeah clone dogs are so weird i used to work like one of the clients at our lobbying firm was a very wealthy uh billionaire and he had a clone dog he used to walk around with and like i'm pretty sure i don't want to say that he sort of helped like he did this very early on and was a very big funder of like like cloning dogs or at least getting that technology to where it is um but his whole thing was too he loved this dog so much he he cloned many of them and like put them in foster homes like group homes because he was
Starting point is 00:50:39 like these would be great therapy dogs which is a, I think is an interesting use of your money to do that. Now, $50,000 just to make your puppy come back to life. I mean, look, that's your prerogative. Do what you want with your money. But I think, I don't know. I don't like that for a variety of reasons. Probably like the silliest is that I don't think the dog wants that, which I'm anthropomorphizing a dog, giving it a personality.
Starting point is 00:51:05 But like I think about my own sweet, beloved Jackson, my dog, and he wouldn't like that because he wouldn't know. Oh, that's me. That's my that's another me. That's my consciousness. He would just resent the idea of me getting close with another dog. That's not him. Right. Even if it is him or him genetically.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Right. dog that's not him. Even if it is him. Right. Even if it is him. Or him genetically. Right. It's also like, the article is so bonkers because she says she's going to wait for her two dogs to grow up to see if they have Samantha's brown eyes and her seriousness. And in my head, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:51:35 or else what, Barbara? Right. What if they're not the exact dog that you fell in love with, Barbara? Then I'm going to drop another 50k for a good one. Go back to the cloning doctors and be like, get it right this time. 60K, okay? She's like, I sang my heart out for this.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Right, exactly. What was her big hit? Funny Girl? The way we were, too? It was definitely a rendition of it. I'm just picturing her singing that to her dogs and them not responding in the way she wants. She's like, no, these dogs are fucked.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Yeah. Take them back. When I sing that, they love it. So these are flawed. Do you get a warranty, do you think, for the condom? They will be different dogs, right? Because they'll be raised differently. It's like being a twin, right?
Starting point is 00:52:17 Right. That's the whole. But I'm sure there has some overlap. Aren't there stories about separated identical twins at birth who even like once they meet they still do have many similar things about them yeah i don't know i could be making this up based on a movie i saw and i'm just sort of an agreeable person so that's why i'm nodding and saying yes it's true i read that also thank you this is a new podcast called dangerous misinformation brought to you live but yeah fifty thousand dollars i mean guys look if you have that kind
Starting point is 00:52:45 of money maybe fucking do something better for humanity than that i mean if you really have that kind of money just throw in a dog and i'm sure she does a lot of great things for human like i i'm sure she's great i'm sure she donates money i'm sure she helps out and it's like i'm barbara fucking strice and i want well the dog that i had when i was younger and and i am allowed to do that. Be aware because I'm sure within an hour someone will tweet about like, oh, you know, Barbra Streisand is wildly problematic. Yeah. Fine.
Starting point is 00:53:11 For whatever. I mean, I only know her from Meet the Fockers. So I'm not too attached to her. I can boycott that movie. I only know her from the Netflix billboard that was outside of our office for months. Another strong one to talk about since we're all millennials, right? Yeah. Yes. I checked recently and the range is much bigger than I anticipated.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Yeah. Because I think technically Jack is a millennial as well. Yeah. He does not like that. But we are millennials and we embrace that because who gives a fuck what the title is? We're human beings. But there was recently a study by this company called Comet. They do like financial services.
Starting point is 00:53:44 this company called Comet. They do like financial services. In this study, there was an area with these 20 to 36 year olds that said 41% said they would end a relationship for a promotion. They also found that almost a third said that they would end a relationship for a raise. So like on average, they said the amount was about $36,000 would convince them enough to putting off a relationship. Wow. Well, I mean, we have been in the worst economy ever. I feel like we're just like, please, please just pay me. Yeah, right. It's strange to do a study with just single people and – Whose motivation –
Starting point is 00:54:15 Right. Whatever. Would you rather have money or this dim hypothetical idea of a relationship that you don't really – like you're not actually invested in. So you don't have – Right. You don't have any of those feelings. It's like, yeah, I mean, I, I, I'm lonely and poor right now. Yeah. It seems like it would be better to be lonely with money.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Right. Right. Yeah. I guess I, there's always Tinder. Yeah. Right. I mean, it's true. Like in terms of the economy, like this generation has grown up with a lot of economic uncertainty.
Starting point is 00:54:44 We didn't grow up when our parents grew up when there was like a middle class now there's just haves and have-nots and that's very frightening i think when you that it sort of changes our worldview right because now millennials are much more open to putting off marriage and having children because we're like nah we gotta we gotta get ours yeah and i guess part of that is getting that paycheck so So I guess for $36,000, would you break up a relationship, Carmen? Well, I'm not in one. So my hypothetical person. Hypothetical.
Starting point is 00:55:10 I mean, he's not my dream man because I can't think of him right now. Oh, wow. Who's your dream man? Who's my dream man? Celebrity or otherwise. He just doesn't even exist. Oh, wow. Well, let's pretend he does exist, that you can't even articulate.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Carmen, you've engaged in hypotheticals before. I mean, if I'm like, if I'm saying like, I'm with somebody who's like the love of my life. No, but if it's like a relationship, I'm not that involved in who's also paying me to break up with somebody.
Starting point is 00:55:37 That's the weird thing about this study. They're not paying you to break up with them. It would just be like, you already have a job and you're in a relationship. If you take this promotion that gives you $36,000 extra, then – I have to break up with them? Yeah. I think so.
Starting point is 00:55:51 This is an abusive job. Yeah. That's true. Very manipulative boss. I think that's kind of sexual harassment. I'm just like, look, Carmen, I will give you this raise, but you need to break up with your boyfriend. Yeah. Like to me, that's like – this is an unrealistic question because it's so ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:56:04 And to me, I feel like it's trying to be like, see, millennials care about. Yeah, I'm really interested in knowing what the function of the study, like how this survey was presented to them. Because if it's just like this, I don't know what kind of real evidence you're generating aside from like giving people a choice between money and a relationship. There will never be a boss that is like, this position is perfect for a single woman. Yeah. Right. Exactly. This is not the 50s anymore.
Starting point is 00:56:30 You don't have to be like, my secretary needs to be single. Right, right, right. She can't be distracted with the family. The question should be, why are we asking people to decide for a job? Right. And also like,
Starting point is 00:56:42 what is the value in forcing a study right now that is like would millennials rather have jobs or love like i mean like either because millennials are the great trigger word for baby boomers on the internet to read about and just go anyway and you want to jump in yeah may i add something i i'm i just read this you're like i just broke up with my boyfriend for 36 i don't like this because i feel like if you chose money over a relationship, then that relationship didn't necessarily mean that much to you to begin with. So I almost feel like it's like a non-survey.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Yeah. No, right. That's like being like, hey, would you want to have a chocolate cake or like some money? A gun, yeah. And I'm like, well, I guess I'll take the money because I don't want chocolate cake right now. Right. Again, look. Then I would use the money because I don't want chocolate cake right now. Right. Again, look.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Then I would use the money to buy cake later. No law that says I can't. You found a flaw in the matrix. Or in this case, be a step, be well established and feel like. Right. My life so that I can meet a real person. Right. Instead of a hypothetical one.
Starting point is 00:57:40 I feel like if I had a lot more money, I would just be like more comfortable and I would take better care of myself and then love would follow. But have you ever been in a position where you've thought about opportunity being in another city and being in a relationship and then weighed like, oh, like would I move for a job in another city that affords me more opportunity or the possibility of more money in that context? Not even – aside from this study, just in general. of more money in that context not to even aside from this study just in general um i not this exact thing but i uh certainly where i went to college was based on proximity to a person that i was interested in and not in like a i'm gonna how i can were y'all dating like a no um but so you were we were creeping from you said i'm gonna go to go to this school because I'm interested in this. Yeah, it was like a really high school where I could watch from above.
Starting point is 00:58:28 It was deciding between a much better school in New York or a school in Jersey where I could be closer to this person that we thought things were going to happen, but they didn't. So I imagine that I would probably turn down a well-paying job for a person if the well-paying job made me move so you're very far away you all about the love fuck money yeah yeah also like what about long distance like how long is this job gonna last for also there's a question of like are you are you gonna like as the person that you either go like say no i'm not gonna take that job that i really really want is there gonna be like tension now because of that Like there are so many what ifs to ask. It's really hard to answer. God, love.
Starting point is 00:59:10 What do we know about love? I'm just all about that paper, man. Yeah. That almighty dollar saying, you know, when I go to bed, I cuddle with all my money. Yeah. And I don't even have none. So that one money. My one money. Yep. We talked about this yesterday. I none. So that one money. My one money.
Starting point is 00:59:27 I'm trying to get two money. Right now I just have one money. All right. So with that, Carmen, thank you so much for being on today. Thank you for having me. I mean, God, you guys, it's been a really hard week, you know, because Jack is gone. You're doing such a great job. I'm a nervous wreck every day.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Really? Yeah. And I'm drinking too much coffee and I'm sweating a lot. It's also diuretic, so I've been urinating a lot. So I'm going through a lot. But thank you so much. I feel like this is like that week where people are like, hey, do you want to come over to her house and we've made casserole? Like they bring you casserole.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Right, right, right. Because I just chose money over love, but I'm still feeling bad about that. I also feel like you're filling in for Jack. So drinking too much caffeine and sweating a lot,'re doing the right thing i am i'm honoring jack you hear that jack we're honoring you uh and okay well anyway carmen please tell people where they can find you find more about you find your work because you're a very talented person i think i'm if people don't already know i know there are many people who are very familiar with you as i saw when i was putting just so know, I was doing IG live streaming earlier.
Starting point is 01:00:26 And there were people going, is that Carmen too? Carmen too? Carmen and Dan? They were freaking out. So for the people who don't know, let them know. I thought they were just freaking out about my overalls. Well, that's good to know. My Twitter is at carmesancheeses.
Starting point is 01:00:40 And if you want to look at my work, I usually just keep it all in one place on my website, which is CarmenAngelica.com. Boom. Yeah. Fantastic. Daniel. Yes. Thank you so much for guest hosting. Oh, thank you for having me.
Starting point is 01:00:51 You made it very easy for me. It's comforting to have another person named O'Brien sitting across from me. I want you to know how hard I worked on the ya that you do in the beginning of the show. Yeah. I don't have – I can't get that purr. You have a purr to it. That vocal fry? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:06 It's a ya. Yeah, I like that. I've been working on it for a long time. But yeah, Daniel, tell people where they can find you, support you, love you, show you love. You can find me on Twitter at DOB underscore INC and look for me nowhere else because Twitter is the public thing and you can do that and just leave me alone the rest of my life. You have Instagram? I have Instagram, but like it's not for you. Is it private?
Starting point is 01:01:30 No, it's not private because I'm weird, but – Oh, okay. Just like you can follow if you want, but I don't. That's so weird. I want you to. My Twitter that's also – or my Instagram that's also public is not for you. Yeah. And it's not private either.
Starting point is 01:01:42 So, okay. You can do do it i guess you can also find me at uh there's a new website from macaulay culkin called funny ears.com we are officially launching on friday but we had a soft launch monday so you could find some stuff by me and some other uh writers that you probably know like tom ryman and david christopher bell and sandra sorenson and some others that I'm not mentioning yet. But yeah, it's a comedy website. I'm doing some freelance stuff for them.
Starting point is 01:02:08 And check out Macaulay's appearance on The Tonight Show this Friday. He'll be talking about the new website. Nice. And were you doing a podcast with them? Are they doing a podcast too? Oh, yeah. Bunny Ears is also doing a podcast. I'm going to be on it in May.
Starting point is 01:02:22 We recorded a couple weeks ago. Yeah, I'm helping you promo stuff. He's forgetting stuff. Yeah, because I saw you on Twitter. I was like, oh, shit. May. We recorded a couple weeks ago. Yeah, I'm helping you promo so don't be forgetting stuff. Yeah, because I saw you on Twitter. I was like, oh shit, okay. Guys, what about Anna Hosniak? Tell me about you. Where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:02:32 Wow, that squeaky mic. Sorry, I pushed the mic away from me. You can find me on Twitter at Anna Hosniak. A-N-N-A-H-O-S-S-N-I-E-H. You can listen to my podcast, Ethnically Ambiguous, and I hang out with Miles at the office on his Instagram live. Well, what about some other podcasts?
Starting point is 01:02:54 Oh, if you are a Bachelor fan like I am, who's excited for this finale? Who's he going to pick? Hey, turn her mic down, please. What is he hiding? What does he do pick? Turn her mic down, please. What's he hiding? What does he do? No spoilers. No spoilers, please. Listen to my podcast I produce
Starting point is 01:03:11 that's hosted by Arden Marine and Aaron Foley called Will You Accept This Rose? They're not on How Stuff Works, but we show them. We're not on How Stuff Works. We're on Nerdist. Actually, no, just bleep all this out.
Starting point is 01:03:20 But we're going independent and we're about to have some fun, baby. Oh, nice. Okay, well, shout out to you. Shout out to Arden. And guys, if you're looking for me, you can follow me on Twitter and Instagram. I've been going live recently, so if you really want to see some fun shit, follow me on Instagram, too.
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Starting point is 01:04:26 This one today, because it's the West Side, I want to do The Edge by David McCallum. I'm not even going to tell you what Dr. Dre song this was sampled in, even though I just looked it up. It's the next episode. But look up this song. Keep this one. It's called The Edge by David McCallum. It's just some, like, real shit, you know? And you can flex on your friends and be like, oh, this is the sample the doctors already used.
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