The Daily Zeitgeist - Wooly Mammoths Coming Back? Who Asked For Pina Colada Cheese? 9.14.21

Episode Date: September 14, 2021

In episode 988, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Maggie Maye to discuss food mashups gone wrong, Wooly Mammoths, Bill Cosby's comeback isn't a thing, and more!FOOTNOTES: Wooly Mammoths When Food Mashups Go Wrong The Bill Cosby Comeback Isn't A Thing LISTEN: TOBi “Off The Drugs” Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Take me down to the Zeitgeist City. Get the damn vaccine so you don't feel shitty. Oh, won't you please just stay home? Yeah, yeah. That is courtesy of Rob Cunningham. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yes, he, over the weekend, just got a Margaritaville blender machine. So you know your boy had to change his name to Jimmy Puffett.

It's the one and only Miles Gray. Thank you so much. Thank you so much to Her Majesty, who got me a Margaritaville blending machine that I didn't ask for, but I didn't realize I needed this whole time. Yeah. so what's special about a margarita blending machine is it just a blender that's like really good and well this one yeah she kind of went ridiculous with it this one you could get three blenders popping off at once it has three fucking like ports so if i wanted to say oh y'all want a red white and blue daiquiri i can hit one thing the ice starts grinding it's like automated and shit the whole time though i can only use one of

them because i'm too overwhelmed to try and like use multiple things at once and really i've just been making like frozen lemonade yeah because i'm just like yo this i can have this whenever i want now and i feel like i'm fucking 14 and I have like a slushie machine. The cocktails will come in due time. But first, I must pretend that I have my own slurpee machine. I do like that you are still professing your allegiance to weed. Even like, lest weed get nervous about you getting this one. You're like, whoa, you know, I'm still Jimmy Puffett.

Daddy's still daddy. You know like, whoa, you know, I'm still Jimmy Puffett. Don't worry, daddy's still daddy. You know, daddy just shaved his mustache. I know it's freaky because you're not used to seeing me without the mustache, but it's still me. Yep, had to let him know. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined once again by one of the funniest writers and comedians out here doing it. You've seen her on Conan, on Take My Wife.

You've seen her opening for everyone from Maria Bamford and Hannibal Buress to Gladys Knight and Earth, Wind and Fire. She's written for Netflix's History of Swear Words and a local periodical called The New Yorker. Welcome back to the show, the hilarious and talented Maggie Mae. Yay! Welcome back. What's up? Welcome. Hey, glad to be back.

Thank you for having me. Oh, it's always a pleasure. Always a pleasure to have Trilly Wonka in their infinite wisdom on the show. And how did you get the nickname Trilly Wonka on this show? Because I love candy. Yeah. Huge candy fan. I've always got candy on me.

And I'm Trill as fuck, so. Right. I mean, that part is self-explanatory. What's the best candy, Maggie? Gummies. Gummies are the best candy. And if you want to go a little deeper, the best gummies out right now are the Haribo Star Mix.

Not the Fantastic Mix. The Star Mix is better than that. Wait, what's the... I only know Haribo Star Mix. Not the Fantastic Mix. The Star Mix is better than that. Wow. Wait, what's the... I only know Haribo is making gummy bears because I'm ignorant. So what's Star Mix? Like, they make star-shaped gummies?

No, the original Star Mix just had, like, all the candy that they made just, like, together. So you get the frogs, you get the bears, you get the... Oh, got it. Yeah, this one has, like, the twin snakes, which are great. It has the bears it has the the little round belts and that just for some reason like a

round gummy candy is like it checks boxes for me for some reason are those peach are the round belt ones peach the peach flavored ones i don't so. There's some like yellow and red and then there's like green and red. Were you saying all these things so casually? Like, yeah, it has like the double snakes. It has other one. I was like, are we still talking about candy? You know, these like poker moves. Whenever people are like,

what can you talk about for like 20 minutes with no prompting or no warning? It's candy. I can talk about candy for i i'm like i'm having trouble accepting that i knew this is the first time i've heard of the double snake and i'm looking at it in this bag picture of star mix and i'm like where the where was i or where wasn't i that i didn't know about any of this stuff yeah i guess twin snakes came out maybe seven eight years ago but oh right it's the 9-11 memorial candy

honor the fun with these kind of edgy you know right comparing the towers to some snakes yeah but hey okay i mean people love them they taste great yeah so let's go. What do you have on deck right now? Do you have the star mix on deck? Right now, I'm a little bit dry. The only candy I have is candy that I'm going to give as a gift to my manager. I curated a little gift thing of candy for her. But I did eat the Haribo ginger lemons. And I'm going to replace them. But in the meantime, I'm like, I'm gonna replace them but right in the meantime out of

the gift box yeah yeah it's like I'm not gonna see her in a week and I'll have time to go back and get you know that's my favorite move is buying some shit for someone else and you're sitting on it and you're like fucking I'm gonna I'll get another one yeah exactly exactly that's my move with Halloween candy I always go through a couple bags before Halloween night, you know, just like, oh, I better test these. Are they still good? Yeah. Make sure there's no razor blades in them. You got to.

I do it for the kids. Not little ones that suddenly appear when you've digested it. I'm not talking about the obvious ones. Right. Make sure I can pass these candies safely. Thank you. All right, Maggie, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about what the Capitol

police are getting in exchange for their performance on January 6th. We're going to talk about the upcoming rally in favor of the political prisoners from that day. We're going to talk about the upcoming rally in favor of the political prisoners from that day. We're going to talk about a tech bro and a Harvard geneticist who are teaming up to play God and bring back the woolly mammoth. We're going to talk about Bill Cosby. We're going to talk about a food mashup that's kind of both on brand for the conversation we've already been having and just a atrocity. We're going to talk about Bill Cosby's comeback and just what you can do with all the news of any Bill Cosby comeback. All of that, plenty more. But first, Maggie, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Okay. So yesterday I searched, how long does it take to preheat an oven?

So yesterday I searched, how long does it take to preheat an oven? Because I was trying to make some brownies with, I don't like eggs, so I bought just egg substitute. And it makes cakes really good, but every time they make brownies, they end up undercooked and burnt at the same time. So I was like, am I not preheating the oven correctly? And so I found out I needed to keep it on for like 15, 20 minutes instead of like as long as it takes to mix the batter. As long as you can wait. Right. Yeah. But the brownies still turned out wet.

I poured them out and I left them out to dry overnight. Think about what they've done. I think I'm just going to frisbee it into the night. It's like art at this point. You know what never turns out dry and wet at the same time when you're in the mood for a sweet treat? Candy. Candy bars.

You see, yeah. I'll just say. Look at you. I shouldn't have tried to be a hero i should have just got a snickers another thing i learned about brownie mix is that the egg is purely for us like they can replicate the egg in the mix part but they just found that people feel better about having made the brownies at home out of the egg in it by the egg in it? By putting the egg in. Like they had it, that was just the batter and then they tested it with batter and egg

and they found that like letting people crack an egg and put it in there with mix just made people feel better. Makes it feel like they're actually cooking. Yeah, exactly. I don't need that.

I don't need that hand. Like I don't have guilt over making box brownies. I feel like that's a past generation. I feel like they need to re-examine that, re-test kitchen that idea because I don't have guilt over making box brownies. I feel like that's a past generation. I feel like they need to re-examine that, re-test kitchen that idea because I don't think our generation gives a fuck. So you said you don't like eggs? You just don't like handling eggs? You have an allergy?

You know if something has egg in it? My brain doesn't let me do it. Because I read a comic once where they were like, eggs aren't. I never really like I was never a huge fan of them. And then I read the comic that was like, oh, eggs aren't baby chick. They're chickens, period. And after that, I was just like, no. Gross. I feel like that might have been a talking point abandoned by the egg

industry where they, cause, cause like, I do feel like part of me at one point was like, these are baby chicks. I feel bad about scrambling. No, you're fine.

You're fine. No, no, no, it's like period. Don't worry about it. They were going to get rid of it anyways. Yeah.

Scrambled period. Yeah. Isn't that yummy? Which one would you rather have? I was like, no. Wait, this was a comic strip you read? Yeah, it was like a little four-panel thing that was on Facebook. And actually, my neighbor, not my neighbor, my roommate at the time posted it up kind of a, oh, this is so funny and so cute, right?

And I was like, and you still eat this? Like, what are you doing? No, no, no, no, no, no. Changing lives. I love the power of just that perspective shift brought you to goopy brownies. You know what I mean? Like, that's just, that wrote, it's like, you know, that's why I ask the questions. And I would try the brownies.

Like, these ones, like, the ones that were burned, I was like questions. And I would try the brownies. Like these ones, like the ones that were burned, I was like, whatever, I'll have a spoonful of it because I'm not going to get salmonella. Whereas if I got wet brownies with an egg in it. Rolling the dice. Yeah, sure. That's just like a chocolate omelet. Say less, Maggie.

A raw chocolate omelet. Yeah. Oh, God. Like an over easy chocolate. Come on up. A raw chocolate omelet. Yeah. Like an over easy chocolate. Could I get that chocolate omelet rare? Thank you. What was it like spending the night with him? Well, the next morning he made us raw chocolate omelets. What the fuck is that?

What is something you think is overrated okay the cinderella the idea of the cinderella story is overrated and i i saw the new or i didn't see it but i see that like cabela cameo has one coming out this is nothing against her but i feel like cinderella and a lot of fairy tales in general could have been way shorter if cps was just involved immediately your stepmom's mean and so are your stepsisters call cps and then you know the question your father they have you sleeping where and wait and what do they do all day while you're doing this? Okay. And your only friends are rats?

That's not good. Honey, we, okay, say less. We're coming at you. Like, they got you out here sweeping the whole house with a broom with six little sticks out of it. Okay, we'll put you in a home with somebody. That's prank broom they're not even letting you do real cleaning oh my god they're gaslighting you oh man yeah i mean what is it just it's all those stories are just meant to help people be like yeah man if you just stay silent during the shittiest parts of your life maybe some fucking glass shoe will fit you

yeah and that's it you mean to tell me nobody else like nobody else had a seven and a half and the whole damn right right what size shoe was it that it was so different was it like a size four in which case why is the prince going around trying to find somebody with a size four that's a child right okay or is this a size 15 like right and that's and then you'd know i'm like there's no question about this i mean we only know one one person with the 15th right i mean that would have been progressive yeah that would have been great the but we know it's not that she has the biggest feet because we've seen the her stepsisters trying to get their feet in there

and just crushing their feet. That's what it tries into a thimble. Right. And in my mind, I feel like a bunch of white ladies who were opting into this sweepstakes where if your foot fit in a glass shoe to become the princess,

one of these motherfuckers would sue after Cinderella won. They're like, well, hold on hold on what size is she yeah right because i put that shoe on too because i think this is rigged yeah and then we'd get to the bottom then we'd have justice the shoe kind of fit you got to give me that shit that kind of yeah right i mean it's lookest obviously that the mean people are unattractive and the only virtuous person is like their virtue just radiates outwards it's also kind of i feel like propaganda for the makeover like beauty industry because she is unrecognizable to the prince after she like gets after she is no longer like has her glow up he's just like i don't know all i got is this shoe literally i'm going to be shocked if you are

the woman who i'm supposed to be in love with yeah not enough has been asked of him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, does he have face blindness? Maybe I'd understand. But yeah, that was a killer one-two punch of Disney movies with Snow White and then Cinderella, both of which were basically invented an entire universe where your beauty was totally like it not only did it affect how people treated you it was like whether you were a good person or not and they would murder you if you were prettier than the queen anyways you haven't seen the new cinderella story no yeah but there's like a like they keep remaking it you know i know that's what's so

i the state of development in film and television is so absurd because it's like well what ip's public domain at this point okay we'll get a so it's luckily disney doesn't own that so we can do it and then we'll blow all our money in doing covers of modern songs like why is what does rhythm nation have to do with cinderella uh-huh i don't know i don't care to know it's also weird that it has been co-opted by like every sports like a underdog story is called a cinderella story they're like does the shoe fit for this cinderella as They're like, does the shoe fit for this Cinderella as they're going into the final four or whatever? Right, right, right.

It's just like, that isn't really even a good metaphor for somebody coming from behind or unexpectedly doing better than expected. That's not what they're saying either. Right. What they're saying is the rest of the Bengals kicked this guy's's ass now let's see if he can catch something exactly he's out here cleaning the locker room and right we let him play yeah now is this equipment manager the new wide receiver that's gonna start that would be a cinderella story yeah not are these professional athletes who were i guess performing at a lower level than the highest performers are they cinderella hmm will the carriage turn back

into a pumpkin we find out tonight it's like what the okay maybe it's just that that's the only movie that any sports person like only like the of the all the fairy tales there's like two that they can reliably have seen and so right and you feel like sports like men's sports is so toxic anyway that they would have found another thing to say rather than like oh man this gonzaga team real cinderella story with these virile young men like that would want something like, oh, reminds you of the parable of the little shell that turned into the monster that ate the evildoers before your eyes.

But there aren't any Disney fairy tales about beating your girlfriend and getting away with it. Not that we can tell. Not overtly. What is something you think is underrated, Maggie? Late night

fast food drive-thrus. Last night after a show, Danielle Perez and I went trying to find some, just some drive-thru fast food place. And it's like, this world is like opening back up. And like, LA restaurants never did stay open for like super

long. So these are kind of important. We went to like two different drive throughs that were closed. And it's like, excuse me, sir. Like we are in the middle of we're hungry in a pan. Like, what are y'all doing? Like, this is a necessary. I feel like late night fast food drive throughs are a necessary cog in the late night. Yeah, exactly.

This is why these are all essential jobs. You know what I mean? Right. Like, everything that is, like, to keep us sustained, give us sustenance, whatever, grocery store, fast food, things like that. We need that. Yeah. We need to exalt these people because at the same time. We need to we need to exalt these people because at the same time, there's so many times when you're left with like the only option you do have is possibly some kind of fast food or a gas station before.

And you don't want to make that. You don't want to make that 1 a.m. dinner at a gas station. Yeah, it's not good. I mean, sometimes you're just like, oh, man, I haven't eaten since lunch and I got to drive back to like wherever I live. Let me just have a little something, a little nosh while I'm driving just to kind of, you know, keep my wits about me. And so I'm not like, you know, hungry and tired. And it's that kind of thing. Who came through for you after you did that search? Jack in the Box came through.

Yeah. Jack in the Box came through. I will say, though, I am mad at Jack in the box let me say this too uh hold on let me give you the floor for this thank you a bunch of different fast food eateries have taken away their french fry and uh squeezy cheese kind of situation and that's another underrated thing jack in the box got rid of their potato wedges. Taco Bell keeps fucking around and taking their nacho fries back. And when they bring them back,

they bring them back for a little more expensive and it's not a huge deal, but don't think I didn't notice Taco Bell that that's what y'all are doing. And it's like cheese fries are so good. Clearly. So someone needs to have a consistent cheese fry on their menu that's all i'm saying about it yeah that's that's it that's all you have to go yeah it's like shake shack but then they're not open late and that's like oh you know it's like that's like that's a spend you know but you want to have because oh remember when uh mcdonald's did it for a second though no they

had cheesy bacon fries it was like an experimental thing yeah and then they they took it from us but yeah i love uh that's usually like that it's funny that you say that because that's when in my mind i go oh i'm not giving a fuck about what i'm eating today it's i usually go for some kind of cheese fry conglomeration uh that is not good yeah but it doesn't feel like fries it feels more like oh i'm having a meal there's cheese yeah because they're because i need a fork yeah suddenly the context is different and this might have nutrients there's so many it's a fork i mean shit there's so many wild things happening with the supply chain. If anybody knows why the cheesy fries keep going away, let us know.

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Just hypnotizing them into following him as he continued to fall back. So great work by him. We also saw dudes just fucking taking selfies with the insurrectionists. and taken selfies with the insurrectionists. So it's time that we hear something from like what's happening with these guys. Something. So they had a, you know, an investigation. And right now, again, I don't know what all the details are of the in the or what what was revealed in this investigation.

But based on what I'm reading, it sounds like very light slaps on the wrist, possibly for the worst offenders within the Capitol Police Force. So the disciplinary actions include three for conduct unbecoming and one each for failure to comply with directives, improper remarks, and improper dissemination of information. No names or other details were released. And it's not immediately clear whether all the disciplinary actions involve different officers or who it was and what is the actual discipline that they would face. No charges, nothing that I guess arrived to the point of like criminal behavior. But again, like you're saying, when you see what happened that day and you're juxtaposing the black officer who, you know, was, again, sold by himself trying to save the Senate chamber and someone else who was like, oh, yeah, this is all good, man.

Let's flick it up. Oh, yeah. Put this on your Facebook. I'm officer. Yeah, cool, cool, cool. You start to think like what what is happening? Because we saw how light the sentences have been for the actual people that have been arrested for like breaking and entering the Capitol and things like that. And so, yeah, you know, just for those of us who look at it like I think are we doing the slow boil into autocracy fascism? Like, you know, these are the kind of moments where you try and make an example or not, you know, at least apply the law equally, which is a concept that is fairly foreign in this country. concept that is fairly foreign in this country. Yeah. And there's a big rally planned for this Saturday from a group, basically the same groups that, you know, staged the insurrection. They are currently calling the people who were arrested and given those late slaps on the wrist political prisoners, even though most of them aren't even in prison. And, you know, they don't have as much vocal,

explicit support from like Josh Hawley and like Louie Gohmert. But they're being silent, the like actual Republican leadership. And they're also still backing the big lie that Biden lost the election. So, yeah, I feel like they were heading in a direction where we've seen what happens in response to a storming of the Capitol, like an actual just all out attack on democratic institutions, like a physical attack. And the message is pretty clear. And I feel like probably well received from the people who staged that first attack. You know, like this is there's going to be a double standard. They're on standby. Yeah. All the language that they use, too, is just to keep their outrage justified and seemingly normal, because if they're they live in a world where every election

is being stolen and things like that then they you know you can see how fired up these people get and i honestly i feel like you see it more it's it's the rhetoric gets more and more intense every couple months it goes from people being like in disbelief to now people making really weird threats like you know i don't know what's gonna happen i know some good i know some good people that might have to do some bad things yeah who said that that was at a school a school board hearing yeah jesus christ someone else i forget who was like the time for bloodshed may come and i was like oh yeah i mean yeah there's definitely like moments where you you'll have

politicians like dance like do the thing we're like god well i certainly hope that we don't come to a point where blood will be spilled over this deservedly and with complete justification because they stole the election like i mean i don't know i would frame it in a way hoping that doesn't happen right you know and yeah it's uh yeah yeah i'm at a loss i mean we'll see what happens with the the house commission that's looking into things and obviously they're going to have a more holistic view of what's happening but at the end of the day like the message is i don't know man like you can pull some wild shit and if you're if you're on the side of the right people they're not going to give a fuck you can you can pull some wild shit. And if you're, if you're on the side of the right people, they're not going to give a fuck.

You can, you can get away with house arrest and fuck it. We'll even give you kale when you're in prison because you'll say your shaman beliefs preclude you from eating bologna in gen pop with everyone else. I think he just got a sentence to four years. Yeah. Which is not a lot. No. And again again that's why i'm like who where are the people like you know like officers ended up taking their own lives as a result of like the

how traumatic that whole experience was there's just when you look at the whole picture it's just really hard to think i'm like at what point is someone like at what part are they signaling this is never going to go down again or if it does like you okay you better be built for doing a fucking 30 year stretch on your head but i don't know if you are and so everything just seems to be like yeah if you get out of it you could you can just kind of say no no no the whole time and then maybe there'll be enough outrage that your sentence gets gets dumbed down because yeah after hearing the one judge really openly be like i'm a little bit curious as to why these sentences it's like these what the doj is bringing is so like light considering what

we saw but i think this just goes back to a bigger thing is like we don't know how to we don't americans don't know how to check themselves ever right yeah the democrats are you know they even even still they're in the business of like kind of keeping things business as usual even yeah and you can't really have things business as usual when there's a fucking insurrection that like where people attacked the fucking capital building to try to prevent the you know, the moving forward of democracy. What's the word? Progress.

Democracy. Right, right. Well, they got like parents who like signed up their kids to a better school district to get like 10 years, you know? Right. Right. And it's like,

I could bust up into a Capitol building and just start acting a fool. And I only get four or I get like, yeah. Like, yeah, I'm on probation for two years and I can't use the internet. And it's like, really?

Well, allow me to walk you down the sentencing uh disparities that exist within this country because that's a whole you want to talk about political prisoners yeah like you have a better argument for saying these uneven sentences are as a result of a politicized judicial so whatever but this shit again is just nonsense because they need the narrative of we are the oppressed people who were able to fly in on private jets to the Capitol and fuck shit up. Of course. All right. Let's talk about, you know, now that we are facing extinction level, climate change, pollution, just an end to any sort of

normal as we know it, people are starting to take some big swings in the world of science. And one such big swing is basically slightly more boring Jurassic Park. There's a new venture called Colossal, which is, what's the other thing that they made? It's like very big or extremely big. Hypergiant? Hyperg giant hyper giant yeah that's the other thing yeah this so to a guy with money and a guy with ideas want to bring the woolly mammoth back from extinction and you're like great great we meet thank you so thank you for being brave right now and and making sure we bring back the fucking creature i've no one has

seen with their their bare eyes but yes this guy ben lamb he's the one who is like the tech guy he said he's putting it like he's got like they got a 15 million dollar seed round but his other past projects have been like you said hyper giant industries which you know they said among other things trying to launch satellites to search for UFOs on Earth. Okay, so you like to really ask and answer the tough questions. Search for UFOs on Earth. Yeah. Yeah, that sends it in a very specific direction. Not like signs of extraterrestrial life, where it's like, we found a bacteria on this asteroid.

They're looking for landing spots of UFOs on Earth. I mean, the UFO doesn't even have to be that deep. It's like, what is under that blanket? It is an unidentified flying object. I mean, if you remember when he launched Hypergiant Industries, people were like, this is just sci-fi fantasy stuff. And he says, absolutely not. We absolutely respect the work that's being done by the men in black.

And we will make sure that our work does not cover the same ground and will not be redundant. That's a joke, Mackie. Okay, I was like, I'm going to email this fool right now. Pop right back into frame. So then, the whole thing, this operation is

described as a, quote, breakthrough bioscience and genetic engineering company that is, quote, accepting humanity's duty to restore Earth to a healthier state while also solving for the future economies and biological necessities of the human condition through cutting edge science and technologies. Which brings me to what does the woolly mammoth have to do with this mandate you have given yourself right because uh the man who's behind it this harvard geneticist george church he's pretty much saying that they will there's a global warming aspect to it like because not only has he they've they said they've mapped a lot of the genetic sequence for the woolly mammoth based on like you know a carcass they pulled out of the permafrost in siberia but they like they know like if i don't know they seem confident that they could bring this to life but he says it's a game changer because if you bring the returning the extinct species to the original habitats will quote revitalize lost ecosystems for a healthier planet bringing back the arctic

grasslands and it will slow the melting of permafrost storing and the permafrost storing gases like carbon and methane that doesn't even track does he he's just not familiar with like so when an animal eats grass they don't put grass back on to the grass just falls out of their asshole jack oh okay okay it repopulates the grass why would he try to say something about their farts he's just got the arrow wrong the times arrow uh a little bit mixed up but that's all right you know he's heady he's been he's been a controversial figure apparently in this article they're saying like a few years ago he claimed to have been real close to a breakthrough with this like elephant mammoth

hybrid and like other geneticists are like don't listen to this fool it was like the the tone of like the response of other geneticists seemed to almost be like motherfucker you know and i know that that shit ain't about to happen was basically like what the rest of the science community said but granted he's you know he also had some other like just interesting takes on technology what if he just brings out the snuffleupagus and that was what he planned elephant hybrid yeah he's like i never said it was going to be organic i'm just saying and they're like this is all just a big viral campaign for Snuffy. For the Henson studio. Yeah. Reboot Snuffy.

But yeah, I mean, I think that's why a lot of people are like sort of look at this and scratching their heads because de-extinction, you know, it seems to already be a controversial topic in science because it's like, well, they're unfortunately that was the destiny of this species. It died out because that's how the earth ended up. It just wasn't a pleasant environment and they died out. And to try and sort of repopulate the earth with gigantic prehistoric beings. that's fun like from a jurassic park as a jurassic park fan i'm like cool but like don't serve me this other shit of like this is this is our ticket off this fucking climate mess no like no one knows how to take care of them no one knows how to like domesticate them so you just have some giant wild beasts running around trampling people and all kinds of things and like didn't these didn't they die during like a global warming situation like so are you trying to bring them back to die in global warming with the internet now that their habitat now that their natural habitat is a handful of really large zoos throughout the western world and a single piece of ice in the north pole we're

gonna bring them back and yeah like it's it seems like we're getting less and less habitable to them but yeah i'm starting to think this is going to be like a revolutionary team up between henson studios and latisse the new Snuffleupagus eyelash extenders. Yeah, that's a soft pitch for that product. Yeah. Because I've always been impressed by Snuffy's eyelashes. I feel like if that doesn't happen, it's going to be a team up between them and like Omaha Steaks. Because that's not going to be a sustainable thing.

They're just going to cut them up and be like, this is the new Neil guy. Right. Mamm Neil guy. Right. Mammoth burger. The colossal. And then, yeah, this sort of experiment just turns into another fucked up hyper-consumer luxury good. We're like, oh, y'all

not eating mammoth burgers? Oh, okay. Y'all broke over there? Pull up. Fuck chinchillainchilla baby we rock mammoth skins nothing but the best yeah they're like we didn't we didn't know what to do with all these mammoths that we created but i don't know i mean i'm and it's like funny because on one level i'm excited to know that you know people there's like technology is advancing then we just get into these larger moral arguments and like what is doable what should be done what should not be done so you know part of me is like okay look

can you bring back my my pet lucky my first dog i had when i was a little kid can we do that they are doing that actually i know yeah it costs like 50 grand just too much yeah it's true maggie i know you said what the fuck yeah around 50k you can you can bring your pets back apparently like barbara streisand has been doing it for a while just like perpetually reviving a dog that she really loved which seems wild that is the first couple ones a little rough you know what i mean first couple copies you know little rough. You know what I mean? First couple copies, you know, wasn't sure what to do with them.

Still figuring things out. They had to use that frog DNA like in Jurassic Park. I feel like if you have to keep reviving it, that dog doesn't want to be here. Well, yeah. They're reviving it by cloning it and just like having a puppy version. Just like repeating the life cycle. Like it's a fucking song that you really like on repeat.

Just like and let's take that back to the beginning. Until you clone it, it's got all of the old like all the old stuff. So it still has like all of the old like it's still like an old dog, but like in puppy body. That's like all of the old, like, it's still like an old dog, but like in puppy body. No, I mean, it's just like the genetic material that they can then create an embryo that will come out. And I mean, the biggest difference is like, how are the environmental factors going to affect like the personality traits that I guess. Right. I don't know, man.

Look, she got a ton of fucking dogs. You got a fake ass McDonald's at her house. So and let's talk about Chris Wallace real quick. He interviewed Nebraska Governor Pete Ricketts. Pete Ricketts. There is Pete. About, you know, his stance on the vaccine. And he brought up what seems like a pretty straightforward question that I'd assume every single person who has ever questioned vaccine mandates would ask themselves this. Yeah, would ask themselves, like, this would be the

first thing. Like, what's the difference between this and the other vaccines that are mandated already? Well, this is yeah, this is the common ailment of the modern Republican politician or of this age, which is like having to be so deep in your own self-delusion plus mental gymnastics to try and rationalize how you aren't just a completely just like manifested walking contradiction. And, you know, he said in before in the top of this interview, he goes like,

look, man, I've been, I'm not against vaccines. Okay, I've said that they work. I know that they're safe. So, you know, it's just about like, kind of, you know, who do people trust? And then that's where Chris Wallace is like, Governor Ricketts, I'm about to put a graphic up. These are all the vaccines that you mandate in the state of Nebraska for someone to go to school. He's like, so a pertussis, measles, mumps, rubella, hep B, chicken pox. And he's like, so family, why don't you have the same energy for

these vaccines? And this is his answer. And he tries very good to be like, oh, you didn't catch me. You didn't catch me off guard with this. I'll just give a non-answer. Are those mandates that parents in your state must comply with and do comply with routinely? Why is it that they're not so objectionable and such a violation of personal freedom, but Biden's vaccine mandates are? Well, for all those that you just listed, there's a long history that parents have had the opportunity to see how those things have been implemented. And there's still a lot of people out there who don't know what to trust. And in fact, this is really an outcome of what the CDC has done because they flip-flopped on so

many issues, whether it's masks or whether you have to mask after you've been vaccinated and so forth. There's just a lot of people out there who don't know who to trust right now. And so by having the government force it on, you're not building a trust where we have the trust with those other vaccines. This is a process that's going to take time to bring people along and that's why it should be a personal choice and not something mandated by the government but but okay so he goes on and he'll never give a satisfying answer because the truth is he's not even sure why they're okay with that one but he found a clever thing which was and yeah. And if you're if you truly want to believe this version of the reality you're experiencing, which is vaccines are bad that. Yeah, it's like, well, they've been around long enough.

It's time. Time is the thing that is, you know, blah, blah, blah. So he's not even saying they're unsafe. Right. And he keeps going back to this argument that people are unsure. They don't know who to trust. Right well what do you do because right now the plan seems to be okay just let the pandemic rage on um he's like but also like we have to hold hands with the people whose only news source is a facebook group right like so but my question to all of this is what the fuck is

your solution? Right. You are a fucking leader. I don't care if you're a Republican or Democrat. You're a fucking leader. Right. So fucking come up with a solution. Don't just say people are just unsure. And.

Yeah. So you up top, you said that you believe the vaccine was safe. You believe that it works. Is that true? I'm pretty sure it is on some level. I believe that I know that. But right. You know, as for the people who I lead for a living for my job, how are they supposed to know that? Right. And the thing is, I can't offer a solution because then that would solve the

problem and we would have nothing to push back against because as a default, the Republicans are now just we cape for the corporations as much as Democrats, but we do it in a way that's very straightforward and then we'll wrap it in a liberty argument. So it gets enough people fired up. Yeah. And that's why I'm just like, what? I wish more people would just pivot an interview like that

and say, okay, then what's the solution? Right. If you're diagnosing all of these reasons why people are, so if you say the cdc then how would you speak to them do you yourself want everyone to be vaccinated but they'll never say that part you know what i mean it always has to be you know that's why this thing should be a personal choice until when you see it's it's never a situation of like it they always put it like oh well people don't know what to believe that the cdc keeps

flip-flopping and this and that and this and it's like no one is it's that kind of thing just strokes somebody's god complex of like if i don't understand it it's not real and it's not true it's there's never a thing of like yeah things are gonna be different when we find new information this virus didn't come with a warning label or with a nutritional sticker on it or anything. Like you're watching science happen. Like we're going to find new things and we're going to pivot. It's never that messaging. It's always, well, they keep hearing a bunch of different things and they're intuitive Facebook groups and they have conflicting information from those.

So we just don't know what to believe. And we're going to give parents autonomy, which is a terrifying kind of a thing. Because like, just the argument of like, well, I don't understand it is like, well, you don't understand Cheetos and you still eat them. Yeah. Like you don't understand a lot. Like some people who failed math, failed science are like, well, I don't get it. So it's not true. And it's like, you don't understand a lot like some people failed math failed science so like well i don't get it so it's not true and it's like you don't get a lot right you know right it's like i don't i don't understand math so when when i look at my bank account it says negative something i

don't know what that means what is that math well i don't understand math so please don't don't uh encumber me with your rigid dedication to this thing you call mathematics please now give me my 500 i would like right now i don't know what overdrawn means i'm not an illustrator do not i do not agree with these things and yeah we're that's why i'm just like there i feel like democrats really just need to be pointing at them if they want as a strategy. Like, watch this. They're not going to suggest a fucking thing to solve the problem. Right.

That's it. Just so you know, the only solution, the only solution they have is just to say no to any idea other people have. That's not leading. That's just you're a drunk asshole at a bar who's buttoning on a conversation. You had nothing to do with like oh what do you guys know about house music i'm like what the fuck exactly there please get away but this is the thing i mean like that's why i would just you'd hope that on some i don't know that's i think where uh like the real sinister kind of wannabe fascist is going

to be able to talk like that oh yeah you know what i mean and it fascist is going to be able to talk like that. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? And it's not going to be like, oh, yeah, well, you know, we can't do that. It's like, no, what we actually need to be doing is this and this and this and that and the other. But right now, I think it's because everything has been so caught up in this like back and forth culture war nonsense that even something this simple, because Chris Wallace even said

he even tried to present it to Pete Ricketts. Like, I mean, like, look, if you think about about it this is a vaccine that works i mean president trump had a lot to do with it happening i mean like it started with his administration and it works it's been tested well what's the problem and he was still just like people aren't sure well then as a leader wouldn't you say hey you can trust me if you said they don't know who to trust can they trust you right and are you what would you say, hey, you can trust me. If you said they don't know who to trust, can they trust you? Right. And what would you say if they trust you? That seems like a very obvious follow-up.

Yeah. I don't know. What do I know? What do we know? I'm just trying to make people feel smart for being stupid. Yeah. Well, again, it goes back to the thing. Americans don't know how to check themselves.

Because we have so many people. This whole thing is like, I don't know if Joe don't know how to check themselves you know like because we have so many people like this whole thing is like i don't know if joe bynum should have scolded these people well look how many people passed away and think of the people that are especially man frontline health care workers the mental health crisis that they're experiencing from like wanting to help people and just seeing ambulance after ambulance or patient after patient of someone who's like i didn't look after my own health and like now i'm in a really bad way and also like give me this medicine that isn't fda approved and also i won't be vaccinated but also please can i not die can i look you in your eyes as i'm dying and say help me like that shit is the ones who beg for the vaccine on their deathbeds

like yeah i've been reading so much we're like you finally get them to want to do what they should do and it's like so painfully too late that like yeah hits you right in the gut yeah yeah and i unnecessary again yeah and i think that's the thing is that this whole thing was just they thought they could create a sentiment within the country that could just ignore the like massive amount of like preventable death that's occurring i think that was really their only plan like i don't know let's just get our heads down and then maybe people will stop caring about it but this is a problem that's unlike the problems they usually like to get involved in which would be like fighting wars and shit yeah and because this is a completely different one

that requires people to actually do what's best for each other they found themselves completely out of sorts it's like well fuck it man like let's hope people aren't getting what can get over the amount of people that are dying yeah yeah it's straight up a death cult at this point the the right a prominent anti-masker and anti-vaxxer who was known for wearing a Zorro mask to Staples passed away over the weekend, Veronica Wolski. And the hospital, like, had to be evacuated a couple of times because people were phoning in bomb threats and trying because she was being treated with, like, ivermectin or, you know, whatever the people who, as Miles said, get their news from Facebook groups were telling the doc demanding the doctors treat her with. So, you know, they don't know who to trust, but they know what the dosage and treatment ought to be. That's right. Yep.

That's why I mean, again, I just I think it's just revealing so much about the human psyche, too, especially as it relates to Americans. I mean, like so much of this is about unwilling to embrace the unknown. Yes. Because for those people, the only control they can exert is to not get vaccinated. Yes. After that, I think to them, it's such a dice roll, whether they believe it's a scientific dice roll or maybe they're just full on some other shit and they'll never get it anyway. But there's just it's like it's just human nature. We have we have to know what's going to happen.

And when we don't, we get very anxious. That's just our human nature. Like whenever we're in situations where things are uncertain, it can cause a lot of anxiety and stress. And especially as it relates to something like this, that requires people to trust that it just shows that there's like limits to that. And in this case, people think they're goingendiary because there was not social media, but there was a big resistance to getting the vaccine. And they had to go door to door to make sure people got the vaccine. And ultimately, they won that battle. But it remains to be seen whether we will be able to win that battle in a world that does have facebook that really like it seems i feel like it's getting passe and also like it's just boring to keep being like social media is evil but it really like

i mean that all these stories that we're talking about like you keep coming back to the fact that the problem would be solved if there weren't you know people lying passing off lies as as facts on so yeah well because facebook kind of gives people legitimacy in that sense it's one thing if it's like a back as hey back in our day we remember the early internet where some wacky shit it was like on a geocities website and you looked at you're like this is trash i can tell by looking at it right this is nothing is real on this page nothing but facebook i think lends a certain veneer of like validity to a lot of those things because of the formatting and things like that that there's like a lot of presentational graphic things that i think are that kind of bolster this shit and tomorrow actually we'll

talk about because this this article just came out. The Washington Post found out like Facebook has like this whole plat, like this whole program where there are like certain users that are they can violate the user guidelines and they'll keep them there because they're prominent profiles. Right. So, you know, we'll do a little we'll talk a little bit more about that. But yeah, there's there's many things that are consciously happening too that kind of keep these, you know, ecosystems humming. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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And we're back. I wanted to just talk really briefly about, I think we tend to talk, food mashups that even when they sound like a bad idea, like, uh, you know, Guy Fieri's apple pie hotdog, uh, usually a ranch sauce, buffer ranch.

I bought that shit over the weekend. I'm sorry. Y'all shit is a fucking nightmare. It tastes like straight garbage. Oh, really? Yes. It's so fucking bad.

I can't even... Buffalo cheese would actually be good. Exactly. So I got some and then Her Majesty were eating and she said, this is bad. I said, no, it's not. And then I kept eating it for like three more bites and I'm like, it's fucking bad. It's that fake butter, chemical

butter flavor. As you force it down. I'm like, what are you talking about? I love it. Let me get that cup real quick oh yeah i'm gonna finish it or i'll love it just taking each bite like a pill just yeah i mean because i love i love the idea but sorry it's that it's a big divide i hate to hijack it another thing but with the butter the over butterfication of like what people call buffalo sauce i can just taste it it tastes like margarine or something fake and it just uh rubs me in the wrong way anyway yeah completely derailed this the okay so this this is a food mashup that sounds like an even worse idea than what you were just describing, which already sounds like a bad idea.

I think somebody just needs to be at the concept stage, like okaying or not okaying, because we're almost never surprised. I guess the Guy Fieri thing was somewhat surprising, but because it was him, he would have gotten it made one way or another. Doritos Locos Tacos were like, yes would have gotten it made one way or another. Doritos Locos Tacos were like, yes, of course. Brilliant idea. Well done. And then we have a trio of cheeses recently introduced by Aldi, the grocery line. And this is a line of cocktail flavored cheeses, including a pina colada flavored cheese that's literally what the label says it's not like cheddar with hints of piña colada it says piña colada flavored cheese which i can't for when you want to drink but you want the texture of cheese right i mean i think

they are like that there was one step that where they took the right step and then like 30 where they took the wrong one. So like Doritos Locos Taco, they were like, OK, people like tacos, people like Doritos and also the same people like those things. People like Taco Bell tacos and Doritos who are stoned. Let's combine those things. They had the thought people who like cheese also like alcohol now almost always it's wine yeah that that pairs nicely with cheese but they were they just stopped at alcohol and we're like all right let's i got it let's give them say less peach Give them peach Bellini flavored cheese, which is another one that it's a Havarti aged Havarti with a pineapple flavor. Again, I don't even know the conceptually where this could ever get a green light.

Aside from I think, Jack, your thing is like they just like had a venn diagram in front of them they're like wine cheese charcuterie board overlap maybe that that's where we combine the flavors to be like alcohol adjacent but i still no one asked for this this isn't a trend in as far as i can tell in the food world so what the fuck is is that? What are we doing? I have a question. Does the article say if the cheese gets you drunk? It does not get you drunk. It does not. So why are we here? The results of the article. So this is from the takeout who practically gave a reheated mail carrier delivered Guy

Fieri apple pie hot dog, a Michelin star. Like they were into that shit big they gave a review of this and at the risk of being too flowery they said it was fucking gross and yeah so like I don't know how it happened I don't know how so I don't how it got past the idea stage. I don't know how it got from the idea stage to the production stage. And I sure as hell don't know how it you taste it. It tastes like exactly what you expect, which is like bad. And then you're like, ship it. Let's get let's get these uh babies on the shelves it's like oh hey have you ever wanted to drink a pina colada through a 40 year old gym sock well now you can with this cheese like what the fuck like there's nothing everything is like like oppositional to each other like on a flavor profile i'm like this isn't even uh well i mean i there's aldi up the street i guess i can go there you go i hate myself enough go eat a big chunk of dude the way they said the pizza bellini and pina colada cheese is crumbled like sandcastles when sliced oh i can already just see they keep talking likening it to chalk and shit and drywall so yeah so who is behind this is this

the same dude that's doing the snuffleupagus shit because it sounds like yeah that sounds like there's a evil genius out there that's just like bad idea man he's got a hand in the fondue. That's his weapons. He has his hands like the guy from Kickboxer who puts his fists in wax and broken glass. He does it with fondue and crackers. Yes. And fondue, shattered fondue sticks holy shit and one kind of quick story that is getting reported a lot and i just want to like

put people's minds at ease that they can stop paying attention to it is all the bill cosby comeback stories there there was a you know it was being reported Bill Cosby's working on a TV show following prison release. As he was about to get released, they were talking about how he was going to do a reunion tour with himself, I guess. Cosby's back.

Reunited with freedom. Yeah. Weren't they trying to argue he was too frail for jail? Oh, yeah. But not a motherfucking coast to coast stand up tour. OK. All right. All of these stories are a writer. All come from Cosby's PR guy, Andrew Wyatt, who claims that things are happening. And Cosby is, with regards to the TV show, is spending time on the phone working on a number of projects, including a television show he has in the works. But nothing ever comes of any of the things that he has announced. the stand-up comedy tour like weeks later they're like actually we're gonna have to cancel that because uh he's being sued in civil court for sexual assault we just like don't have the have the time to do that but of course it could also be that nobody was interested in booking him since

there wasn't a single date booked when they canceled the tour. And is he lying to Bill Cosby? Andrew Wyatt. Yeah. That's a great question. It sounds like he's trying to like just grift off his name or something. Like, does he say that and then can secure other money? Cause it's like,

I can't imagine he's a big Bill Cosby fan and this is his thing being like, Oh, you're going to love it. We got a tour. We got a TV show yeah cheese uh everything jello pudding pop flavor like what the fuck is it i don't understand what the end game is he's previously claimed that cosby was working on a five-part documentary about his life and legacy with lionsgate which actually was true and Lionsgate took that opportunity to pull the plug on the documentary.

And then Wyatt, when reached for comment on that one, was like, no, false. He's still going forward. Yeah. So he's Lionsgate. I never heard of them. We're like a big production company. One of the biggest. I don't know.

They're Come on. Who are you going to trust? Me or the guy who lies all the time or these people? He's also compared Cosby's arrest to the persecution of Jesus, called the conviction of Harvey Weinstein a sad day in the American judicial system, even though he's not a client. I think that's the business that he's going after, though. Right. Just caping for the trash, trash mails of the earth. Yeah.

Okay. But people can stop paying attention. And journalists obviously should stop writing it. But it was Fox News. So what are you going to do? Right. Fox News is rebooting cops, which we'll be talking about in coming days. Fox News is rebooting cops?

You got it. That is going to be... Like the fuck Fox, like cops, there's going to be a new cops that's just on Fox News? Yep. Yeah, just full on white supremacy TV. If cops are already copaganda, what the fuck is the Fox News version going to be?

Like they're probably going to just straight up set people up on camera. Absolutely. And then their viewers are going to be like, well, he shouldn't have he shouldn't have been he shouldn't have gotten pulled over. And then maybe that cop didn't have to put that heroin in his trunk. Maggie, as always, such a pleasure having you. Thank you for having me. I always have so much fun.

Where can people find you and follow you? So I'm on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, the whole nine under Maggie Mae Haha and Mae is spelled M-A-Y-E. So Maggie normal spelled M-A-Y-E, Haha normal spelled. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes, very much. It's really hard to distill it down. But one of my favorite ones that I have seen recently from my friend Paul Danky, he has a tweet that said, sorry, bro, if you don't want me to chat you up, you shouldn't be driving a mid 80s 4Runner. And I like that energy. I like that energy i like that energy yeah miles where can people find you what's the tweet you've been enjoying uh you can find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray also the other podcast with sophia alexandra for 20 day fiance if you like 90 days stop by because we're talking 90 day fiance non-stop there uh tweet that i like

and i just fucking i this shit just spoke to my fucking soul it's an image where someone is holding like a throwback canister of vicks vapor rub like if y'all saw this you'd be like i know this here i'll just show you remember when it used to look like this oh damn yeah okay so then uh heather chacon at wicked tread tweeted my son has been sick not covid and shout out to my mom who loaned us the same pot of vicks she used to use on me growing up expiration date january 1987 let's go hell yes fuck yeah anybody who has parents who hold on to shit for dear life, that just fucking made my heart sing. Fucking January 87. 87, baby.

It's vintage. Wow. You never know when you're in India. They don't make it like they used to like that. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Like pre-band for a loco. Let's see.

Some tweets I've been enjoying james third comedy tweeted what if a man had feelings and attributed that statement to an entire genre of cinema and then at zero suit camu tweeted business school sounds so made up it's what a kindergartner would say if you ask them where dads go all day. I agree. That's somebody with a lot of friends who went to business school. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.

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Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you're going to enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people will enjoy on this fine Tuesday morning? This fine Tuesday calls for some, you know, sort of like new neo-soul kind of new R&B kind of vibes from a Canadian-Nigerian artist named Toby. T-O-B-I. And this track, it's just super funky. And again, it's an easy one to listen to. And it's called Off the Drugs.

So this is Off the Drugs by Toby. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

That is going to do it for us this morning, but we are back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye. Hey, fam.

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