The Daily Zeitgeist - Workers AREN’T Lazy?! App-Based Policing? 5.27.21

Episode Date: May 27, 2021

In episode 918, Jack and Miles are joined by rapper and What Had Happened Was host Open Mike Eagle to discuss restaurant workers, updates on Havana Syndrome, A Quiet Place 2, the Citizen app, Lego's f...irst LGBTQ-themed set, and more!FOOTNOTES: ‘The final straw’: How the pandemic pushed restaurant workers over the edge ARE U.S. OFFICIALS UNDER SILENT ATTACK? Fandango Reports Very Strong Pre-Sales For ‘Quiet Place 2’ CITIZEN APP AGAIN LETS USERS REPORT CRIMES — AND EXPERTS SEE BIG RISKS Banned crime reporting app Vigilante returns as Citizen, says its ‘report incident’ feature will be pulled Missing woman reunited with family thanks to Citizen App, diligent neighbor “It Creates a Culture of Fear”: How Crime Tracking Apps Incite Unnecessary Panic ‘A bleak dystopian reality’: Citizen app is now driving a patrol car in Los Angeles Leaked Emails Show Crime App Citizen Is Testing On-Demand Security Force Private Security Force That Works With Citizen Wants the Power to Arrest People A crime reporting app shifts to tracking COVID-19, raising privacy questions Crime App Citizen Exposed Users' COVID Data Report of Tiger Running Amok in Manhattan Turns Out to Be Raccoon: NYPD CITIZEN CEO OFFERED TO PERSONALLY FUND LA ARSON MANHUNT — FOR THE WRONG PERSON Citizen App Falsely Accuses Man of Starting Los Angeles Wildfire LEGO Unveils First LGBTQ Set Called 'Everyone Is Awesome' Launching for Pride Month Why I designed “Everyone is Awesome” by Matthew Ashton Lego’s made an LGBTQ-themed set but it feels a little like lip service Conservatives are furiously whining that LEGO’s new Pride set is shameful and divisive absolutely losing my mind watching this WATCH: pumpichulo - {WEGONMAKEIT}  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:17 This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. That screaming part at the beginning feels very weird to do. I'm in my in-law's house right now my mother-in-law is like right next door and she made reference to the she's like yeah no you can like go in there and like do all your screaming or whatever she's like telling your kids she's like yeah so your dad just screams all day? Yeah, so he's just in there screaming by himself. Anyways, it is Thursday, May 27th, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Hello, Twitter post.
Starting point is 00:02:54 What you know when I've come to watch your hot takes grow in. Ain't you got no rhymes for me? Do-do-do-do-do. Feeling chooky. Ba-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-do-do feeling choogy. Ba-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da feeling choogy. That is courtesy of Gold John Ion, and I
Starting point is 00:03:13 am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Hey! You give me a number, I call you up. You act like you're chouggy, don't interrupt. I don't have a problem with you wearing Uggs, but I have a little problem with you not wearing Uggs. Hey, Chuggy.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Baby, I got your muggy. Don't you worry. Said, hey, baby, you sip your muggy. Woo! Look, the Chug vibes are all over the place. You had to take it to the odb uh and shout out to the people on discord for that wonderful aka mr fist you did it you did it i love the the fact that like a lot of people like it's usually teachers we don't have actual gen z you know
Starting point is 00:03:59 listeners but teachers are like i asked my daughter i asked my like student and they said that's not a thing so i do uh there's part of me that hopes that this is all like a bit that they're doing and yeah that's what we're saying even more embarrassingly like it's a sigh off man yeah yeah yeah anyways miles we are blessed to be joined in our third seat by one of the best rappers doing it. One of the funniest comedians. Rappers want to be comedians. Comedians want to be rappers. He said, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I'll do both incredibly well. His most recent album is Anime, Trauma, and Divorce. You know him from TV shows like The New Negroes, History of Swear Words, and just being one of the funniest comedians and dopest rappers doing it. He is open mike ego now i feel bad because i'm not gonna rap after you said i'm a good rapper well you guys album people can go check that shit out that thing you just did was five times more entertaining than anything joke raps i mean that was amazing i love the line i don't have no
Starting point is 00:05:06 problem with you wearing a little problem with you not wearing that shit is so good that's the one that sealed it yeah as i read i was like oh no i'm going to leave my body i like how you made your eyes real big too you really got into od ODB. Yeah. I wish people could see. There's no way you can. I mean, for anybody who grew up with that era of rap as being like your era of rap, you can't just casually do anything from Russell Jones and keep it like low key. You know,
Starting point is 00:05:38 it has to be, you have to have the energy when you do it. An unfakeable fucked up at Nist that he brought every every time on mike one of the greats uh mike what's what's new with you i have a podcast network called stony island audio and we have a flagship program called what had happened was where i take one artist and interview them every episode for an entire season this season our our guest is LP of run the jewels. Wow. Company flow,
Starting point is 00:06:06 Def Chugs fame. We just released episode nine with him today. And last, yeah, last season was Prince Paul and we got a bunch of shows on a network. So if people like to hear a rap talk, like kind of what we just did, that little slice of that,
Starting point is 00:06:21 like our network is just that a lot. Oh, I'm LP too. That's another one oh man from that was like the first time i was i had my head turned when i when i started listening to deaf juxtapose like well hold on what's what are they doing over here now what's what is this what is going on but yeah man that sounds like he's gonna oh i gotta i definitely have to check that out yeah we're gonna deep in all of that old uh choogy indie rap stuff right like talking about cage and stuff yes definitely that's certainly a different format like interviewing the same person for a whole
Starting point is 00:06:57 season like do you what's that experience like do you it makes it makes them very tired is what i'm like around episode four. They are very sick of talking already. Is it done in one session or you do it kind of like weekly or how do you do it? Kind of weekly. Or when I did it with, with Prince Paul, we kind of, we kind of did it in bulk because we were doing it in person. So we would, we would do at least two episodes in a sitting. And with, uh, with L we,
Starting point is 00:07:25 we, uh, we tried to do that, but I think trying to do two episodes over zoom was just uniquely excruciating. So we just kind of do one at a time. Yeah. What was the, I mean,
Starting point is 00:07:35 man, Prince Paul, I got everything, everything you're saying like, yes, please. Cause that soul album was completely my first three. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah. All right, man, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about we're gonna check in somebody bothered to check in with the workers those lazy workers who are not going back to work uh after the pandemic somebody was like well i wonder if they really are just like we're lazy or if they would have like reasons for not wanting to go back to to these jobs. The Chamber of Commerce is wrong. Yeah. Shocking.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Critical race theory seems to be the GOP's midterm issue. Like it's it's a thing that they think they can just kind of stake the whole midterm election around. We will check in with Havana Syndrome. The New Yorker did a follow-up article from the same people as the first article. So we'll find out if anything's new there. A Quiet Place 2 is coming to theaters this weekend. I feel like it might be the first movie where people are like, we're back fully.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Not Fast 9? Well, Fast 9's coming the week after. So this is when it starts to ramp it up a little bit. I just wasted all my money. So you bought some counterfeit tickets to Fast 9? Someone said they had them early. Sir, that's a cracker. I guess I'm going to have to eat those tickets.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Like literally, they're crackers. Yeah, like, oh, you're talking about The Simpsons? The Simpsons, yeah. Well, first off, there's no such team as the Spungos. We'll talk about the Citizen app, which is just a nightmare that is looking to get worse. We'll talk about the culture war, bringing in Legos to the fold, just trying to kill off everything that we hold sacred from our childhood. The conservatives are trying to weaponize it all. And also, what does it mean that Amazon bought MGM, including James Bond?
Starting point is 00:09:42 What does that mean for us? Probably nothing. Yeah. So we'll talk about that. What does that mean for us? Probably nothing. Yeah. So we'll talk about that. All of that, plenty more. But first, we like to ask our guest, Mike, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? I was searching the Clippers because I was trying to find a way to watch the game. And I don't have cable or whatever this Bally's network is
Starting point is 00:10:07 that apparently bought all the Clippers games. Oh yeah, that like bought Fox Sports or whatever? Yeah, I have no idea what's going on. I learned all of this very quickly last night when I realized that a national playoff basketball game I couldn't watch because I live in the city that the team plays in and I don't have the right wires coming into my house.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Yeah, right. Yeah, there were a lot of people talking about like how they ran the the nba scheduled the lakers game and the clippers game at the same time same damn time yeah it's pretty ridiculous yeah it's pretty and i know there's a lot of puzzle pieces with stuff being on the west coast and you know all the moving parts but all the games was the first round so there's like all of these series happening once but you you figure they wouldn't even be on the same day right let alone at the same tiger room and this is game two of round one there this was unavoidable it's not like this is you know they're one teams in the first round game seven and the other teams in it like this is straight up. This was the plan all along. Mike, are you a Clippers fan? I think so, or I thought I was.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Now I'm just confused, man. I'm just confused. I have no idea what's happening. They seem cursed. Yeah. And it's like I feel like it's too dangerous to root for them now because who wants heartbreak that is for sure coming? Right.
Starting point is 00:11:26 And for people who don't know or might not be interested, you know, one of the big things going into this postseason with the Clippers is that they tanked because, you know, they tried to manipulate their record so they wouldn't have to face the Blazers. They wanted to avoid stronger opposition, so they wanted to face the Mavericks. And now they're down to nothing in the series. To the Mavericks. Yeah, they're getting their asses handed to them by the people who they who they chose right and though and and it's weird because i was talking to jack earlier off mike i was like psychologically you don't want to go in like strategizing if you're if your intent is to say no actually i believe this is the team that's the best in the league it shouldn't matter who the
Starting point is 00:12:02 fuck you play because at the end of the day you're going to prove that through your wins but to then strategically avoid oh ty lue come on now it's rough sorry buddy but you know maybe he's just a he's a undercover laker in disguise it's so it's so wild like the the fact that the clippers are down 2-0 to to the mavericks to like a team that i think i think most people had the Clippers winning that series. It really does make you ask questions about the psychology around both that, the team that you're
Starting point is 00:12:33 playing, realizing that you wanted to play them because you didn't respect them enough, and then the psychology around playing for what is supposedly a cursed franchise. Well, if you watch the last dance i think what we should all take away is you don't make people angry on purpose right don't do that yeah because they will make athletes have a good job of turning that into fuel
Starting point is 00:12:55 yeah yeah like they i think there's a reason that the team that broke the curse for the boston red socks were affectionately known as the idiots. There's something psychologically complex in sports about playing for a cursed franchise, and you just have to either stupid your way through that or just through sheer tyranny of will. I'm sure LeBron would be able to do that. I mean, he did that with the Cavs, but not to piss off Clippers fans even more, but I mean, come on. What is something you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:13:32 The Los Angeles Clippers. It's rough, man. I think they're overrated. So we don't have to stay on them. I just needed to double down on it. We have three basketball fans talking right now. What's happening right now? I this is what's happening right now.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I'm on the other side of that lifelong Laker fan. So I love it. This is when I become my most toxic because a lot of the times I love the relationship between like a franchise that defines themselves based on someone else. And I just love to see it backfire but part of me also like on paper i'm like they i'm like scared of the clippers until i see the results and then i'm like hmm let's well it's up and down they should be one like really good i'll be surprised if they lose the series still because i just feel like kawaii will put it together but man it was the last person to go two games down.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yeah. Right? And then come back win. So, you know, we'll see. How are you feeling? Mike, you look lost. I feel like you're watching old Darius Miles highlights playing in your head. Well, I mean, I did have to
Starting point is 00:14:40 watch the game in my own mind last night. That is part of it. I couldn't actually see it. So I'm just like watching Google for information and live score coverage. I don't even know how to pirate stuff anymore. That was a tough realization. Really? See, I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Allegedly. Don't get me wrong. But also, hey, Zeitgang, holler at Mike on Twitter with some info because there are plenty of ways because it's the same thing like Spectrum Sports. Oh, you're a Laker fan in L.A.? What do you want to watch your team? Where, yeah, you have to just work around these greedy broadcasters. Yeah, I got caught out there yesterday. I didn't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I only caught I caught like highlights. And then at the end of the Laker game, they like cut to,aker game, they started watching it on the TNT broadcast. Really? Yeah. So you could get the last couple minutes where Charles Barkley was like, oh, man.
Starting point is 00:15:34 And it was funny because they were just watching, and they weren't really giving commentary, but it was commentary in that this is what it sounds like when the four of them are watching something passively. Lakers fans, uh, Maz, you said you were a lifelong Lakers fan and that that's true.
Starting point is 00:15:51 You had to live through those tough times when they were 500, where Kobe was still putting up like 81. And no, stop, stop, stop. I was here. I was there that one year when magic Johnson,
Starting point is 00:16:04 like was, uh, Stop, stop. I was here. You were there that one year when Magic Johnson was... Y'all are... I know my fucking history, man. I've been fucking down. I've held ashes in my hands and been like, what is happening? And then, yeah, the pendulum swung the other way and now I'm using this
Starting point is 00:16:21 to completely become an insufferable fuck. I'm a Bulls fan, so I have no sympathy for you at all. We haven't won anything in my adult life. Yeah. The one loss in the playoffs, the Lakers lost their first game of the playoffs, and I was getting the texts from Lakers fans being like, what is Vogel doing right away? These are people with no context of what a postseason even looks like.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Right. It's like we only did a couple of times. I think it was like against that one series against Iverson where we like went winning every single game on the way to the finals. And then when we lost, we were like, oh. Yeah, that one loss. Again, like one of those hard things that Lakers fans had to live through when they lost that one game to Iverson. That was hard, man.
Starting point is 00:17:09 That must have taken your faith. You swept everyone else that year. But yeah, I mean, these are the same people who were texting me last year being like, Vogel should be fired. Like halfway through a run to the playoffs where they won the championship. And they're like back. They're like, this guy, what is he doing? It's like you'd think that it would build up faith
Starting point is 00:17:27 but I don't know. Lakers fans. I don't call for heads like that. I'll let it play out. Anytime somebody's coaching LeBron, part of their job description is to take all the blame for everything. Because we all think that
Starting point is 00:17:43 LeBron's really coaching the team and that guy's just standing there right that's right that's right tyloo lebron that one picture he's like outside the huddle jumping on someone's back uh what is something you think is underrated uh comic books and i might have said that last time but it's still true yeah yeah tell us i read a really good comic book last night and the reason i decided to tell people that comic books are underrated again because i read a really good comic book last night and there's like nobody to talk about it with because there's not enough people that read these things even like on youtube where you think there's 10 million people making videos about everything there's like five guys to make comic book videos.
Starting point is 00:18:25 It's not it's not fun. What do you mean? The new X-Men is written by this guy named Jonathan Hickman, who's an incredible writer. And he just paid off the storyline. It started like two and a half years ago. It's really amazing. And I can't find other people who care. So I'm promoting comic books.
Starting point is 00:18:43 People who like comic book movies. Remember, there's weekly source material that comes out every week. It's really cheap. You can own it. And Iron Man can even be back in it if you want. He's very alive in the comics. Very much. Just like three of them, I think.
Starting point is 00:18:59 And have plenty. Wait, so what does the new X-Men look like? What are they? Is it new characters and things like that? Oh, man. So, so what is the new X-Men look like? What are they? Is it as a new characters and things? Oh, man. See, so Hickman changed the status quo. You remember the island of Krakoa? Does that ring any bell for you at all?
Starting point is 00:19:12 Yes. OK, so the island of Krakoa, they all the mutants in Marvel now live on the island of Krakoa. They've declared themselves an independent nation state and they've bioengineered these drugs that like cure all human diseases and they hold that over all the humans heads as political capital so they got like ratified by the un quickly and they have these gates that they grew where they can like go go to other places instantly and but only mutants can use them if the human tries to walk through they'll like crack their nose on it you know nose on it. They're just gangsters now. It's great.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Fantastic. So the rest of the world has to deal with it. It's like living in a world with one superpower, but it's superpowered by mutants. Yeah, by people who were formerly hated feared and oppressed right and murdered a lot they're like no we're we're not gonna do that anymore we're gonna do this now and everyone is scared oh man that's good i haven't i was just like i was saying the other day like the jim lee x-men was like the last time i was heavy into it that is a long time ago i know i know it's been 25 years but um but i do have the marvel unlimited app so i do i still check in on comic books but that's but i also need suggestions
Starting point is 00:20:37 and so now i'm gonna put this on there because i do love i just the app has made reading comics a lot easier for me yeah i do everything digitally now as well. It's really easy. But yeah, House of X, Powers of X is the miniseries he put out roughly two years ago to change the whole status quo and creates the environment we're in now in Marvel Comics in terms of the mutants. Yeah, that sounds dope. Jack, what was the last comic book you read? Oh, man. Like, were you like a little little did you or did you even get messed with comics when you i don't really fuck with comics just like the movies the toys that all that shit right right right yeah i didn't
Starting point is 00:21:15 really fuck with it but now my uh three-year-old is real into like marvel and shit and i'm trying to figure out like like i was just researching squirrel girl which i think is i had heard of like a couple of things you were just talking about there maybe but yeah like i'm trying to figure out what the what the best way in is for like someone who's really young but he's like obsessed he knows every like his the way he learned the alphabet was like a marvel book with like ant-man black panther like you know the abcs of marvel characters right and so i got i gotta figure out i gotta like get up on the on the comic book universe because i feel like that would be the next level and like the
Starting point is 00:21:59 i don't want them to have to like jump straight to the shitty movies you know get them into trencher from image comics just some like weird ass niche comics from the 90s blood bloodshot or or iron gut or whoever i mean i feel like i'll say this like i learned to read japanese as a kid from reading like manga because like i didn't go to japanese school but my i grew up with my mother speaking japanese to me so i was fluent in speaking japanese but i didn't i never went to school to learn how to read and write and i learned that from reading like early dragon ball and stuff and that i like actually kind of helped cultivate my relationship to like reading was i got a lot of momentum with comic books and that helped me not be afraid of
Starting point is 00:22:46 normal books down the road and be like yo there's also information in these that can help me out yeah i mean i grew up on like hardy boys books which suck and like i wish somebody had introduced me to like cool comic books when i was that age but i was just like, well, these are books. These are the books that I have. Get your kid into Hardy Boys, Jack. Get into Hardy Boys. The worst, man. And I was like a completionist. I had like one through
Starting point is 00:23:14 123. They were so bad. Anyways, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson.
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Starting point is 00:26:56 involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we're back. And so the mainstream media was doing their thing with their like capitalism bias of just going to the employers, the capital and asking them for their take on, you know, the labor shortage, the difficulty that companies were having getting opened back up because they couldn't find people to hire to do the job. And yeah. And even in that description is so sinister when it should be that companies don't pay people enough to even get them to think it's worth their labor rather than they're having
Starting point is 00:27:57 trouble finding folks to exploit, unless you're going to say it like that. Right. Exactly. But yeah, that whole conversation gained a lot of steam and there were so many that, you know, there was that whole streak of people taking pictures of signs posted up in windows, whether it was like, people were like, sorry, people don't want to work because of the government subsidies. Or some people who were straight up like, yo, fuck this place. They don't pay people shit. You got us all fucked up. We'll never work for this place. Sorry. Go get your fucking smoothie somewhere else and now we're starting to see again that was a definite uh help with the help of the chamber
Starting point is 00:28:29 of commerce that helps represent all those employers we got that sort of idea out but then the washington post decided to do journalism and said let's also talk to the people that have refused going back to work and what that means. And you can tear them away from the video games they're playing on their couch. Am I right? I mean, this is the wild thing. They talk to all kinds of people, right? When they start the article like this, quote, Jim Conway started working in restaurants in 1982, making $2.13 an hour plus tips.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And though his world has changed significantly in the nearly 40 years since then his hourly wage has not at the olive garden outside of pittsburgh where he worked when the pandemic hit last year he was making two dollars and 83 cents an hour so after being furloughed for months last spring conway 64 decided to retire right y', they wouldn't raise his wages 10 cents a year. That's not even 10 cents a year. That is a decade almost. It's it's really something. And again, this is so this whole article goes on to show, you know, it's not that there are people who just said, oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Now, the benefits are too sweet for me to think of a job. It's all some version of, yo, it's hell to work in some of these places. And this was just the push over the edge I needed to actually advocate for myself or have the time because the pace of capitalism is so intense that I don't even have a second to take a breath and think of what I want to do. That in that interim period of being furloughed, people are switching occupations. So there's another one talking with people who were this Crystal Mayer who works in a restaurant in Austin said, quote, the staffing issue has actually a lot more to do with the conditions that the industry was in before COVID and people not wanting to go back to that, knowing what they would be facing with a pandemic on top of it.
Starting point is 00:30:24 People are forgetting that restaurant workers have actually experienced decades of abuse and trauma the pandemic is just the final straw right the hardest job most painful job that i ever had to do was waiting tables at a busy restaurant waiting tables is so chaotic so exhausting so just like all consuming that like you're just fucking so broken by the end of it and like there that was something that i had no appreciation for when i waited tables and like worked with like bartenders and shit like the whole thing of like that all restaurant workers like do hard drugs basically it's like yeah if i did this like for years i would definitely need drugs just to get through that shit and like that's the way that america treats it is like they create this hell world they give you like illegal hard drugs to do that just like make
Starting point is 00:31:19 your life bearable and then they'll like put you away if you get caught with them it's just like the the hell reality i mean that you wrote hell on earth in your outline miles i feel like that's literally what's what they're doing and then expecting people to just want to go back because the national myth around like gotta pull your stuff up by your bootstraps so what happens next i mean is the bottom gonna completely fall out of like wage work i would be i think it would be really fucking fascinating if that happened right i think it's just now they're they're realizing people people been saying 15 at a minimum to even start a conversation because there were like you know viral images of like an
Starting point is 00:32:06 ice cream shop that was like fuck it we'll pay people 15 an hour let's see what happens and the line went around the fucking block right um it's just that they there was a threshold that they found and i think obviously it should be way more than that i mean like you'd hope again this is just the beginning of like a larger conversation about labor and things like that but yeah it seems it seems like the only they're trying to incentivize, like some places like, hey, come on an interview and get a fucking appetizer at Applebee's. It's like, well, no, I don't need your appetizers. I need health bennies. What are you talking about? So a lot of people are trying in their very small ways to try and entice people back.
Starting point is 00:32:45 in their very small ways to try and entice people back. But I think overall, this again is like the, we need to see just actual like subsistence wages, because right now too many people are on subsubstance wages, meaning you cannot live off of your income from this job. And I think that you'd think overall we can shift up, you know, to a utopia where you only need one job to survive and support a family or do, you know, navigate your life where you only need one job to survive and support a family or do you know navigate your life as you see fit but the other thing that's interesting is it's causing a lot of people to shift like even just their idea of what their career was like there was one guy who used to be a bartender now he's like like fundraising and organizing for a pack for like restaurant workers and he just found he's like I'm making as much money actually doing this nonprofit work
Starting point is 00:33:26 than I did in a restaurant. And I'm actually liking it because I feel like I'm doing something and like, I can see what I'm working towards and who it's going to benefit versus like, you know, pouring drinks was cool, but I was, the guy was saying like, I was just getting burnt out telling people to wear their masks or like not. And having the police that just became too much and I'm not paid enough to give a shit. Then there was like other people who have like even gone into medical care, you know, because they were laid off, they needed time. They, they just needed to do odd jobs. This one woman said that a friend needed someone to look after their elderly
Starting point is 00:33:58 parent. And now they're like, I'm actually thinking of getting into home medical care. That's, that was actually, I like to definitely like to interact with people, which is why I liked working in restaurants. But now this other layer of like, oh, it pays better. And I can interact with people and be helpful. A lot of people are also just, I think, seeing that their options are a little bit more, but I think a lot of the reason why people aren't able to see their options is because shit, like you got to constantly work. And if you miss a week or something and you get hit with three bills out of nowhere like your life's completely upside down so hopefully there's just a a change in outlook for you know for people who are sort of at this point of trying to figure out what can i do what's
Starting point is 00:34:38 possible there's a article in the new yorker this week called The Leftward Turn of the Democratic Party about like this movement from like people who are involved in the Sanders campaign who then like went and like started their own organizations. One of those organizations was the one that got AOC elected. I feel like we've reached a bottom for like, you know, the the capitalist like corporate ethos where it's like, hey, guys, come to this corporate pep rally where we tell you like make you feel good about the fact that we treat you like a disposable resource. And we're starting to see people drop out of that economy. One of the people who was involved with one of these really influential organizations was driving for Lyft and doing gig work before he started doing this. And I think there's just a complete difference. We've reached a bottom where like there's all these deaths of despair and you know the it's like almost like a spiritual low point and now people are like kind of turning in best case scenario to like community and like socially minded things
Starting point is 00:35:59 that like give them purpose and like make them feel like they're actually helping people or just to have that clarity to feel like oh i'm being fucked actually yeah um before i wasn't able to realize that because the slog and the churn of having to work didn't afford me the time to realize how badly i was being exploited this one line cook gives actually this sentiment because they're saying like you know making a lot of like just low money and didn't know what to do and he said that he thinks the pandemic has changed the paradigm for low wage workers giving people more confidence to man better to demand better wages quote there's a growing movement of people including myself that just flat out refuse to work for somebody that isn't willing to pay a living wage. And I think that is the, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:45 that's hopefully what we're seeing more of. And you will hope that the business owners will see that too, but I don't know. Yeah. You know, we're seeing them deploy their lobbyists to squeeze workers on the other side, on the government side by cutting off benefits or like in some states being like,
Starting point is 00:37:02 if you're a, if you're a like exotic dancer, they'll be like, oh, they just recently think i think it was texas or maybe florida they're saying if you're under 21 you can't dance at a club anymore and then so that's creating like squeezes for people in that 18 to 21 gap who were normally working so there's a lot of fuckery going on to try and you know force people back into taking these wages. And I think that, you know, the resistance is strong from people to accept that because hopefully, you know, we're all seeing how bad shit the normal was before the pandemic that going back to it just doesn't seem feasible. Yeah. All right. I wanted to give a quick update on Havana syndrome. Mike, are you familiar with what havana syndrome is
Starting point is 00:37:45 no when i read this outline this entire paragraph fucking terrified me it's like three different points in it i just like broke out in tears so so there were diplomats just like the real quick thumbnail version there were diplomats in havavana at the start of the Trump administration who started feeling like they were being hit with a sound beam, basically. They were feeling like pressure changes in their brain. They were suddenly like had vertigo, like even after the fact. I've been in between like thinking that it's like could be a mass psychogenic illness like basically a uh a mass panic thing and not because i think like people are being babies but because i think the placebo effect and like the power of the mind to create actual physical symptoms in our bodies is like highly underrated
Starting point is 00:38:40 but the so the new yorker uh differs with me uh And I've always said they were hacks, but they they believe that this shit is going on. They kind of wrote an article that went with like the CIA take on it, that they're they're being attacked by probably Russia with microwave weapons. with microwave weapons. The New Yorker, the CIA is still kind of on that path. And they believe that it's actually spread now to being at people being attacked while working at the White House. And there's been like people suffering from similar symptoms. I still think the symptoms are like kind of vague and weird and you know it's just very diffuse which is which is what i think which is why i still kind of lean towards mass psychogenic but um so what the u.s is doing now is they're going to try to create these weapons because so that's the other because that always works that always works out great so that that's the but that's the thing that is so weird here is that science doesn't have an understanding of how a weapon like they're describing could do the thing that they're
Starting point is 00:40:00 claiming it does and so now they're going to like build weapons that they think can do this with microwaves and like train them on primates brains basically to try and recreate the symptoms which is fucked up so do we mean like when you say microwaves right how close is this to the thing that you know you heat soup with in your kitchen
Starting point is 00:40:20 like how like what is the differentiation there because i refuse to believe we have consumer technology that has not been tested for use as a weapon yeah i refuse to believe that that is the case right i think they're much bigger like one of the criticisms of any theory that this is like a real weapon being used on people is that like you would need a thing that is the side that would take up like an entire hotel room to like create the level of like radiation or microwaves that like would cause this sort of
Starting point is 00:40:52 injury and after it happens they just like disappear and it like happens in all sorts of places it happens to people like while they're walking on the street it happens to people while they're driving in traffic again the white house which like you would think is pretty secure like that it's happening to people there there's also the fact that what this is happening at the same time that we're seeing things that science can't explain happening in the sky and now apparently in the sea over the ocean and under the ocean like the there's now a submarine data that suggests that like similar to the flying tic-tacs uh submarine sonar has spotted things moving through water at speeds that don't make scientific sense and so it's a weird moment where suddenly like the military is just coming out and being like uh yeah so like we don't
Starting point is 00:41:46 know but this shit is weird uh and they're doing that on like a number of fronts so you could skeptically say like they're using this as a ploy to make people scared to create like another arms race with instead of the soviet union like a imaginary threat thanos right thanos basically but it is it's still just kind of a mess like the whole story just like the reporting around it it's still scary though it's scary it's very scary these words are very scary there's something about increased white matter in here i don't know what that is what's white matter right so that's the thing like they talk about the people who suffered the injuries when they examined their brain on scans. They seem to have increased white matter, which or decreased. I forget one of the two, but it's a bad one where like the thing that connects thoughts is not there as much as it should be. Oh, no. It's important. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Wait, with the thing you said, they're trying to reverse engineer it and test it on primates, you said? Yeah. Okay, so that's the beginning of Planet of the Apes, is it not? Right, there you go. Is that what the fuck's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:42:56 Like, you're like, oh, you just supercharged their brains up. Right. I don't know. That's what I'm hoping for, fingers crossed. It does seem like, yeah, this would be a great origin story. At the same time, the it's probably just going to make those primates lives shitty for the rest of their existence like it has for the people who work in the State Department. And again, by saying mass psychogenic illness, I'm not saying this is something that they could just snap out of um sounds like what you're saying you sound like you're saying they're whiny yeah exactly get it yeah stop whining couldn't be me right i do hope though that this
Starting point is 00:43:37 does lead i just want to see a silverback gorilla rip off parking meter out of the fucking sidewalk with concrete on and just like chuck it through like an armored sheriff's car yeah you know like when these primates are unleashed i'd like to see that from afar yeah i think i'm actually just i'm just thinking up things i've seen in planet of the apes right yeah yeah yeah okay so those first two planet of the apes movies are dope yeah i i would suggest you watch those those oh great wait movie yeah yeah yeah uh the what the franco and then the uh other one those are those are pretty cool all right let's take a quick break now that we're all uh suitably terrified and we'll be right back this summer the nation watched as the republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
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Starting point is 00:48:35 place 2 was hitting and then you know the pandemic happened and those billboards stayed up there but this is this is a movie we talked about at the time because, I don't know, there's like made people feel weird with the first movie people were pointing out. It's like brown-skinned alien monsters who react viciously to the slightest noise. And people were like, is that a metaphor for the fears of like,
Starting point is 00:49:00 you know, white fragility? Like people, sensitive white people who are like they're so mad at us we can't say anything anymore i don't know i i found that somewhat convincing and john krasinski's like ensuing pro-cia pro-positive spin on the news vibes just kind of continue to make me be like huh huh i'm not i don't i'm not saying he's doing anything knowledgeably i'm just saying huh i don't even know i don't like john krasinski right fuck that guy i just like when i remember when the first one came out i just don't like this
Starting point is 00:49:39 kind i just don't watch these sort of horror adjacent type things in general but yeah uh my own personal taste but yeah uh sure go go be scared of whatever whatever uh version of you want to bring into it i know a lot of people like it as it seems very thrilling but there's just something that i've soured so hard on john krasinski it's like wild i've never this has not happened that often where i'm like oh man i used to love that show and now i'm like fuck this dude this dumb ass fucking news show and it's weird yeah you're as big a office fan as i know and i'm yeah i wasn't then but that shit started hitting differently when you sort of look at like all the just sort of like lazy racism of like michael scott and you're just kind of like fuck, like this is the kind of shit we weren't like examining,
Starting point is 00:50:26 like the Michael Scott's of the world that allow it like this slow boil into like harmless racism or, you know, ignorance and shit like that. That's the show has been sort of tinged like that for me in the last couple of years. But I saw this video of John Krasinski surprising people at the theater to watch it.
Starting point is 00:50:44 And for whatever reason that completely turned my heart to ice I don't know why that did it that's what did it I was like at least for this film was like why the fuck okay like why are you going as like oh shit I'm about to surprise these people with my spooky outfit on and by spooky
Starting point is 00:51:00 outfit I think I like yellow pants but that's not good yeah it was just a bad I don't know just I don't know enough about him to have too much against him but i i'm always suspicious of people whose whose necks get that big that fast you have a very skinny neck and now he's got like two of those necks yeah i don't i don't understand how that can happen quickly yeah well he's training with the uh barry bonds capitalism's invisible army the cia he like trained he like his whole so he became jack ryan for that amazon prime series which amazon if a series happens on amazon prime it actually doesn't happen culturally nobody nobody watches it as far as i
Starting point is 00:51:41 know but his interviews around that series he was like i just have so much respect for the cia and uh you know what what they do for us and they're always out there protecting us and yeah yeah it's that that bothers me more than his yellow pants but uh his yellow pants also suck it's also weird that like i've never he snuck up on people at a movie screening for a movie he's not even in like he's he directed this but i don't know if like that's a that's a big like oh my god it's the director like that that's who i would want to hear talk about the movie i bet you 90 of the people in the theater don't know he has he's directing it right i didn't know till right now yeah i didn't mention either i would have been like oh cool john krasinski's here with cameras in my face but i am wait i am just interested in this from a box office perspective like we we talked earlier in the week about how sports fans
Starting point is 00:52:41 clearly seem like they're ready to get back at it and you know we'll see if movie fans are following suit this weekend and then f9 is coming next weekend so i can't i can't imagine personally uh rushing to a movie theater to see something scarier yeah right about an apocalypse right i need a i need a movie to give me a hug right now right i don't i don't want to go be scared that doesn't that seems counterintuitive to me personally yeah no i'm in the same boat like the idea i i want to see like i want to do it incrementally you know like that's why it's funny when you see like at amc though like you know they're like you can rent the theaters out privately and we'll play whatever you want. Yeah. Like you could get a 20 seater and play back to the future.
Starting point is 00:53:26 So you can get 20 year friends that you're like, I can at least vibe with these people and we can watch back to the future for five bucks in a theater. And this feels okay. But like, yeah, the idea of something, a post-apocalyptic world with all this like energy.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Nah, like I think I'll just watch car fly fast in sky. Yeah. And I mean, watch car fly fast in sky. Yeah. And I mean, it was like a better proposition. We're all closer to our families now after like going through this together, at least some of us and what is fast and furious, but showing us our families depicted on screen.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Uh, it's all about family. And yeah, that, that feels like I just want Dom to take me in his arms and, you know, be my brother that I never had. So I'll wait for F9. All right, let's talk about the Citizen app. People probably heard of the Citizen app.
Starting point is 00:54:16 If you haven't, it's like Nextdoor. It's a personal safety app, in quotes, that alerts you to crimes and other emergencies happening in your city. Usually not very close to you. Usually like very not reliable in terms of the reports that it's making. And the commentary on there. It's more racist than parlor before January 6th. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Fucking the vibes on these these neighborhood apps is like so ridiculous. The suspicious individual seen walking down the street. It's like, you know, we know what that means. on these neighborhood apps are so ridiculous. Suspicious individual seen walking down the street. It's like, we know what that means. And if you're concerned that the app might embolden vigilantism, those concerns probably won't be allied
Starting point is 00:55:00 by the fact that Citizen began as an app literally called Vigilante. So they were very clear up top like what their goal was what they had in mind and then they they got kicked off of the app store because they were like are you fucking kidding you're like all right what about this uh amateur batman yeah like no right what the fuck is that that's even worse but that's so so perfect like for a a thing to just change its name like 180 degrees to the thing it is not it's not a good it's not good for citizenship it's the opposite of that and it's good for vigilantism and they're like oh we'll just change it. It's like
Starting point is 00:55:46 the U.S. War Department changing its name to Department of Defense once they started waging offensive wars. So anyways, as of last year, Citizen began reintroducing the feature allowing users to report emergencies, which is the thing that got them in trouble in the first place. You know, it's basically letting people use Citizen, the app, instead of calling 911. They'll start streaming the video. And that's a problem for a number of obvious reasons. But they've already showed the problem with that because during the California wildfires,
Starting point is 00:56:26 they basically blamed an unhoused individual for starting the fires and offered a $30,000 bounty for people to quote hunt down the person who started the fire. This was all the, like the CEO of the company did. This was like, we got to show that this app is for like active justice or something. Well, and they got the wrong guy, like predictably. Oh, shit. Yeah, that's this. These apps are so fucked up. And all they're made to do is like perpetuate this like cruel, unusual world syndrome.
Starting point is 00:57:02 People already have from looking at the news too much like i remember a few hey fuck before the pandemic we talked about how they like apps like this were hiring crime beat writers yeah to help create more content to reinforce this idea of how unsafe where you live is are you serious yeah to motivate more purchasing of like nest cameras and all this other shit where they're like reporting local crime. And like you're saying, Jack, it'll say local. But when you really look at the map, you're like, man, it's just fucking four miles. It's not my neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:57:33 It's in the city. It's not my specific neighborhood. But most people aren't looking at that. And they look at just this like feed of fear that they're just ingesting. And on top of that, just all the racial biases that are wrapped up in that and how what's interesting though, too, is you'll see these debates go off where someone comes in and be like,
Starting point is 00:57:52 we got to get these unhoused people out of here. And then people are like, okay, can you have some more compassion? Do you even understand like why people are unhoused? The failure of the city to do that? I'm like, well,
Starting point is 00:58:00 I just think it's this. And sometimes people get schooled and they learn and people like, oh, I never actually thought about that. Thank you. Then there are just like the straight up trash people who are there to just keep, you know, they get bored on Facebook. So they just start copying and pasting their statuses to citizens.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Right. Yeah. It feels like it's Facebook brought into physical, like geocached Facebook. Right. To use a really old term. But I just think it's so funny that the CEO, this guy, Andrew Frame, staked his whole... So another thing they're doing is introducing a security force, which is a car that has Citizen on the side, making your world a safer place, and Los Angeles professional security written on the outside of it. All black Ford Explorer looking like a fucking cop car. It's a fucking cop car.
Starting point is 00:58:52 It's a cop car. It looks like a cop car. Yeah. Amateur, whatever. Want to be violent. I don't know what the fuck these people are doing. Yeah. Yeah. And they partnered with LAPS, which is like L.A. private security, who are people who are like privately paid to basically they drive around with they carry guns. They have bulletproof vests. And the thing that they want is to basically have the power of police to arrest people.
Starting point is 00:59:22 That's what they're like lobbying for they want to be able to make a citizen's arrest yes that would be short branded branded citizens arrest but yeah their their pitch is basically more cops but less accountable which seems like not the not the right move at the moment yeah so i don't know i mean this is all on the heels of like stuff like in especially in la or you have all these there's a lot of people with money who have no sympathy or empathy and they just go like what's what oh god these unhoused people are everywhere right and i just and a lot of the times these laps people you see them in hollywood and shit they're just basically there to shoo people away that's normally like when i see them interacting with the public it's like hey man you can't sleep here like hey you got to move this shit or whatever
Starting point is 01:00:08 but like you know this is also coming off like we're seeing their for like the national fraternal order of police just put out this like report they're like oh my god the crime is skyrocketed right again uh sort of create their like very insincere presentation of data to sort of juxtapose that along with like the concurrent, you know, movement to reform the policing system and law enforcement in this country. So it's all it's like feels like a full court press. Like, well, fuck it, man. Maybe if they defund those, then we can have like these like just cosplay cops who have guns and effectively are you know community brutalizers out there too to offset these other things it's just very it does seem like only a matter of time before one of these untrained civilian police officers murders a person like that seems to be the next logical step and also it's like the kind of thing they want the right to be able to do right right
Starting point is 01:01:06 yeah yeah i mean what was george zimmerman right like right he's like their spokesperson he's their he's their mascot right but he was a self-appointed community like neighborhood watch fucking vigilante thought he was doing police work or wanted to be doing police work but yeah this all just feels so dystopian like private police driving around in like fake police cars but feeling deputized to like kill people and so the ceo put his own money on the line two years ago when uh during the wildfires to be like this is our opportunity to show citizens like ability to proactively like get justice and like uh for citizen to fulfill its true mission is what in his words and they got the wrong guy this is just yeah it's so fucking dangerous you'd hope this is like you'd think the cops in this all over the country are so greedy that they're like, no, we get to, we have the exclusive license to use violence against people, not these other people. We don't want them treading on our turf.
Starting point is 01:02:24 can happen if you have a lot of private citizens with money they're like yeah we're hiring our own people like we already have we've just out of our own fear of the world we're also funding this like over policing of our own neighborhoods out of complete ignorance yeah all right let's talk about one last bit of the culture war uh the right is freaking out over lego lego uh just announced its first lgbtq themed set dubbed everyone is awesome uh it's basically just a bunch of like faceless minifigures in front of a rainbow each with individual hairstyles and different colors like different colors of the rainbow so there this is like everyone is awesome except bald people i guess but yeah yeah it's fucked up i know man what the fuck i will not be erased by this lego set it's just stupid like again i don't know the why the right has beef with this but they do because essentially it's just because
Starting point is 01:03:18 it's representation they don't want and companies to acknowledge that there's anything outside of cishet Christian white America. And it's like the fucking rants of these people is it's at this point. They're so comical because society is most of society has moved pretty far along past like this weird toxic form of homophobia that when these people like this Baptist leader leader albert moeller quote wrote a 2300 word rant on his website claiming that this toy contains quote a hurt that cries out for christian attention a hurt at the deepest level of personal identity that doesn't i don't know how you will even get like a rabid ignorant hateful person to respond to that sort of carrot you're dangling. Like, oh, the deepest level of personal identity. What can I do? Will Kane from Fox News had an interesting interpretation.
Starting point is 01:04:16 I'll play it. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's hear that. Listen to this. Again, I love when conservative white people like to weaponize their understanding of anything from the civil rights to shit on anything that could be slightly progressive. Look, this isn't on the same level as those examples, but look at Lego. This is Lego's newest line of diversity toys.
Starting point is 01:04:36 This separation to color coding, living up to every stereotype from hairstyle to skin color looks like it could have been designed by david duke this is the opposite of martin luther king's dream for america okay is he mad about the powder blue guy i don't know i'm like what skin color is that do y'all know any sky blue y'all any guy sky blues in your family i'm so confused because i guess so i think he's saying the color coding is like the black figure has it looks like dreads or braids or something like that the brown has a little bit of maybe a 2c curl not not super curly then there's a red head i don't know like it's just so that he's taking it so literally right uh that it just you're like okay i don't even understand what your argument is.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Because after the two things that resemble anything that might be a person, you're like, who are you advocating for? The lavender people? Yeah. Yeah. The magenta folks. Yeah. There's a helmet on one of the people. Like what?
Starting point is 01:05:37 But race to that. Oh, gosh. Color coding or David Duke could have like, really? Right. And then it's that weak ass attempt of like mart mlk would have hated this like right because he said his whole thing was don't acknowledge race race race isn't real so don't acknowledge it because racism isn't real i remember when martin luther king jr said that yeah they they get it man they get it at fox news the wild
Starting point is 01:06:02 thing is like lego already has a pretty not-inclusive record when it comes to LGBTQ issues. Their Lego wedding cake topper was only sold with a man and a woman. Not to mention even racial representation in Lego figures. Very hard as
Starting point is 01:06:20 a kid to find a Lego that looked like me. But hey, that's why I put a helmet on and it rode a motorcycle so it could be me, but Hey, that's what I put a helmet on and it rode a motorcycle. So it could be anybody. And that's, that's the one cool thing about this is that there's like kind of a nice story behind the set. It was created by Lego designer,
Starting point is 01:06:33 Matthew Ashton. And, you know, he said growing up as a gay kid in the eighties, like he was constantly told by different adults, like what he should and shouldn't play with. Like, well,
Starting point is 01:06:44 you're a boy, so you should play with like gi joe and so like maybe if they're giving people the rope to like you know do something with it and like the designers to like kind of make decisions to expand the palette that could be really cool uh but like they're not donating the proceeds from these sales to like any progressive, like, you know, organizations or anything. They're just like, yeah, we're, you know, rainbow washing, get, get making, making money off this. I mean, I like how that, yeah. Like you're to your point, they're saying, Oh, Oh, where's the proceeds of this goal? Look, I can't really answer that right now, but I will tell you we have an ongoing philanthropy arrangement with the organization Diversity Role Models.
Starting point is 01:07:28 But, oh, I'm sorry, you're asking if we're committed to increasing its donations because of this? No. Right. But thank you very much for purchasing. Yeah. But it's, I mean, it's definitely fair to criticize Lego on this, but not for... Not for saying this is like Rick and David Duke's fantasy set. Right. They should be doing way more than they're currently doing.
Starting point is 01:07:53 I mean, even this deal, these figures, they all have the exact same body type. Right. They don't have faces. They're not doing anything but assigning them colors and hairstyles that aren't connected to anything. This is like a very low bar statement, I think. Yes. To say the least. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:15 I mean, as we all know, green people have long wavy hair. Green person has long wavy hair. Forest green. Hey, my grandmother was a sky blue. The Navi. Yeah, for some reason the Navi looks like he should be wearing boat shoes. Maybe because like that's the type of person who wears like blue, light blue. It's like kind of J.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Crew they went with for the for the light blue. Mm hmm. Yeah. I mean, there it is. Come and get your your David Duke Lego Mm hmm. Yeah. I mean, there it is. Come and get your, uh, your David Duke Lego. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Yeah. Well, Mike, it has been such a pleasure having you as always, as always on my end as well. Where can people, uh, find you,
Starting point is 01:08:58 follow you on Twitter? Uh, Mike underscore Eagle and all of my stuff is it, uh, Mike Eagle.net on the wild Internet. Yeah. And is there a tweet or some other act of social media you've been enjoying? Somebody named Simp Stunning a few days ago tweeted.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Journalism is hilarious. People just go to places and start asking, like, hey, what the fuck is going on here? Right. Hey, hey, what the fuck? Did I talk on yesterday's episode about the motorcycle guy who just chased me around yesterday because he thought I cut him off, even though I was I'd been at the stop sign for four seconds. He was chasing me around going, hey, hey hey it was like the wildest shit man that is not safe motorcycle right at all a lot of bad things could happen yeah i had to pull into a police station oh by one and yeah you didn't call citizen you didn't call citizen yeah i brought up the citizen app and tried to flash it
Starting point is 01:10:03 at him but he didn't care jack are you doing are you doing running around Pittsburgh without a little aluminum bat in your backseat? I know. That's what I mean. Like, oh, you want some, asshole? And they're like, oh. Yeah. Although I can definitely... I have the hardest time picturing you doing that, even in a comedy sketch.
Starting point is 01:10:20 So, yeah, maybe it's better to play it. Even if I did that, he'd probably... My best bet would be that... My best shot would be that he would laugh. You know, most people... So yeah, maybe that better doesn't even if I did that, he'd probably the bet. My best bet would be that my best shot would be that he would laugh. And most people, they really don't want the smoke. They act like they do, but not most people aren't there. They don't just go on with your life, sir. You don't want the smoke.
Starting point is 01:10:38 I don't want it either. Let's just keep going on. But just like not having anything to say besides hey this is kind of funny to me yeah was he waving his fist too like that feels like hey you uh why i gotta right miles where can people find you uh what's the tweet you've been enjoying catch me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray um also the other podcast 420 day fiance check us out twitch.tv slash 420 day fiance talking 90 day uh tweet i like it's just for all the clipper fans out there um it's from isaac k lee at isaac k lee and it's it's a reference to the last dance if you remember
Starting point is 01:11:20 there's a scene where uh michael jordan and larry bird embrace and that still was used where it's it's michael jordan in larry bird's ear saying you bitch fuck you and isaac k lee tweets me to 11 year old me for deciding to become a clippers fan you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien i just liked simone biles's tweet i'm sorry but i can't believe i completed a double pike on vault um i just think more athletes should just be blown away by their own work like that helps me even more that simone biles was even freaked out she was like yo that was fucking wild just like yeah because like we were saying yesterday we're just like i don't it looks so normal.
Starting point is 01:12:05 She's so talented. I don't, and I know nothing about what that was. Okay. Now I know that she was tripping. Okay, good. And then Amy Miller, frequent guest on this, on this show, not frequent enough, tweeted, Oh, sorry, but I do not have the spiritual space in my life right now for a check engine light.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Thanks. That's real. That is real i remember like at the height of this i think it was like the height of pandemic and like george floyd protest like right in the middle of that like google changed the gmail icon for the phone right and it just completely freaked me the fuck out like Like, what is this strange new M? What is this? This is strange.
Starting point is 01:12:48 I don't need this right now. Introduced other colors to the logo. They really fucked that up. I feel like that redesign where everything started to look the same. See, yeah. And then knowing that, like, who's got the energy to go to a fucking quiet place? Right. You know, if we all have that Amy Miller check engine light
Starting point is 01:13:05 fragility, sure, shit. Yeah. I'm going to see Fast Car and Sky Go Fly Fly. Yeah, I like that movie. That sounds like my movie hug. Fast Car and the Sky Go Fly Fly. Well, you can find us on Twitter at
Starting point is 01:13:21 Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, we have a Facebook fan page. On our website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song we think you should check out. Miles, what song should
Starting point is 01:13:37 they check out? Alright, so this is going to be a remix to a Jadakiss song that I really like called We Gon' Make It, but it's turned more into like a house track. So it's got, it's like, it's somehow they made this like New York anthem feel like something that would be played at like the do over,
Starting point is 01:13:55 like a summer party. So this is called We Gon' Make It, but it's a remix by Pumpy Chulo, P-U-M-P-I-C-H-U-L-O. You get it on SoundCloud, but it's the We Go Make It. Just remix the summer anthem. Pumpy Chulo. Hell yeah.
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