The Daily Zeitgeist - Worst Star Wars Ever? Trump Dealing Well With This 12.19.19

Episode Date: December 19, 2019

In episode 539, Jack and special guest host Caitlin Durante are joined by comedian and hip hop artist Open Mike Eagle to discuss the new Star Wars film reviews, Trump's unhinged letter to Nancy Pelosi, voter purging in Wisconsin and Georgia, Iowa homeowner painting swastikas and Confederate flags on his house, the movie CATS, Survivor's #MeToo incident, and more!FOOTNOTES: Review: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever House nears impeachment as Trump decries ‘vicious crusade’ The 30 most blistering lines from Donald Trump's unhinged letter to Nancy Pelosi A judge ordered up to 234,000 people to be tossed from the registered voter list in a swing state Judge allows Georgia to purge 309K voter registrations overnight Iowa homeowner says swastikas, Confederate flags are not racist Cats looks mighty weird, but that’s why TS Eliot would have approved FYI, Even Furries Think The “Cats” Trailer Looks Bad Feline confident? Cats' last-minute dash to the cinema FIRST CATS REACTIONS CALL IT 'HORNY' AND 'BEWILDERING' CBS Belatedly Introduces New Steps for Reporting Sexual Harassment on Survivor  One ‘Survivor’ contestant accused another of sexual harassment. The alleged victim was voted off. The Upsetting ‘Survivor’ Sexual Harassment Episode Is Reality TV at Its Most Real 'Survivor' Dives Into #MeToo Debate with Claims Against Hollywood Talent Manager Female ‘Survivor’ Contestants Apologize After #MeToo Backlash See DAILY ZEITGEIST at SF SKETCHFEST! Tickets here! WATCH: Open Mike Eagle - Very Much Money (Ice King Dream) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 113, Episode 4 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And say officially off the top, fuck the Koch brothers, and fuck Fox News. It's Thursday, December 19th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien aka Wet Pockets because I have sweaty thighs.

What are you going to do? It's courtesy of AtZootsht again and I'm thrilled to be joined by my special guest co-host the Latin dancer UTI herself, Caitlin Durante! Hi! Happy to be here. Oh, just got a couple more anagrams for y'all. Good God, the most anagrammable name in the business.

Y'all ready for this? Okay. Y'all ready for this? Okay. We've got Caitlin Durante anagramming two radiant nut lice. Gross. That's so fucking gross. But I guess it's good that it's radiant.

It's radiant. Would you want your nut lice to be radiant? If I had nut lice, I would want them to be radiant. Radiant. Yes. Like, positively radiant. You're glowing.

It's like you're talking to a pregnant woman. Oh, my God. You are radiant. Yeah. My nut lice. And then I've got, I feel like I should have saved radiant nut lice for last because this one's not quite so radiant. But Italic Nerd Ant.

Yes. Yeah, I messed up. I fucked up real bad. I mean, they're both bug related. I like that. Bug related? Yeah. Ant?

How is... Oh, sorry. Ant. Aunt. Auntie. Okay, got it. Man, I'm just fucking up. No, no, that's my bad

I should have known I should have Should have realized There was no you We could make it Ant like the insect If it was You

Italian Or sorry Italic Oh but Italian also works If I change Anyway Look These are both

This is gonna be the rest of the episode You guys So just Sit back We're gonna work out a couple things. These are both courtesy of at Jace of Spades. Jace. Thank you.

Good job, Jace of Spades. Full disclosure, though. Jace of Spades, they anagrammed it as Radiant Lice Nut. But I thought it would be funnier if it was Radiant Nut Lice. Yes. So I did take some liberties with that one. Yeah. I think you made the right decision.

Thank you. Thank you so much. I mean, writing is editing, you know, in many ways. Writing is rewriting. Yeah. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented open mic EO! What's up man? How are you?

It's so good to have you here. Radiant nut lice eh? Yes. I don't know if I prefer mine to be radiant. You'd rather be them like lackluster? Well I just feel like they might mean like they are irradiated like they might be incredible hulk lice. Oh radioactive.

Right. They might slam me about the room by my testicle hairs. That's true. I wouldn't want that. Yeah. That would look funny, though. Your name anagrams to Nope, Mike Eagle. Hey, I like that.

That's good. That's fun. Not quite as good as it was. I should set my name to that sometime. All right, Mike. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment, but first we are going to tell our listeners just a couple

of things we're talking about today. Star Wars Episode 9 reviews dropped two nights ago at midnight, and they're not great. I've never seen anything that's made people... You've never seen a Star Wars? Well, no. I mean, people are so pre-angry. I've never seen um anything you've never seen a star well no i mean people are so pre-angry

yes i've never seen people that's pre-angry yeah they were uh post-angry after the last after the last jedi and they're still angry still mad it's a brand new movie yeah um so we're going to talk about that where it falls in the uh in the sequence of a Metacritic review counts. It's pretty far down there. We're going to talk about how well the president is dealing with his impeachment. Girl, I'm talking about impeaching this creep. Voter purging in Georgia, still happening. Just all sorts of shit.

Cats. It's still happening. Just all sorts of shit. Cats. Apparently, Tom Hooper, the director of Cats on the red carpet, admitted that he had finished the movie the day before after a 36-hour all-nighter. That's my favorite thing I've ever heard. I love it.

So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about Survivors, Me Too incident, and just how perfectly they handled that. CBS is really good at this sort of thing. So we'll talk about that we're going to talk about survivors me too incident and just how perfectly they handle that cbs is really good at this sort of thing uh so we'll talk about that all of that and plenty more but first mike we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are uh my last thing i searched for was um it's called blog of doom blog of doom yeah what is that it's a behind the scenes pro wrestling blog okay yeah you say that with such pride i i am i didn't i didn't search for it for being prepared that i

was gonna have to talk to you are you a big professional wrestling fan yeah um yes there's no other way to qualify that blog of Doom. You learn anything interesting? Oh, did I learn anything interesting? No. Here's the thing. I don't watch WWE. I'm like sworn off of them for like a year and a half now. So when I do go to Blog of Doom, I basically get reaffirmed in my boycotting of them.

Like I find out some decision that they made. I'm like, yep, still making the right decision. Yeah. Not doing it. This might as well be in a different language. I'm looking at the Blog of them. I find out some decision that they made, I'm like, yep, still making the right decision. Yeah. Not doing it. This might as well be in a different language. I'm looking at the blog of Doom. The smart rant for WWE Monday Night Raw. Yeah, so that means the guy who writes that blog,

who also does not like WWE, but he watches it every week because that's his content. Got it. So this is him shitting on whatever wrestling happened Monday night. Got it. Okay. And wrestling is every week? Forever.

Forever. They never have an off-season. There's no off-season. Okay, wow. They're 52 weeks a year of brand new programming forever. It's been like that since like the 80s. Yeah. Yeah.

And that's probably at least partially why they have so many problems the wrestlers themselves right oh yeah for sure they're just treated horribly it's not easy to fall hard for a living on purpose daily zeitgeist never takes a break right

52 weeks and that's why you have so many problems fortunately I'm not thrown around by a muscle-bound person for a living. Right. Imagine somebody came in the room dressed as an irradiated lice and power-bombed you through this table. I'd be ready. I'm ready.

Every week? Yeah. Every week. My goodness. Yeah. You made a good stuff, Kaylin. Thank you. What is something you think is overrated?

Sweet potato fries yes thank you speak quite quite gross I think they look good on the paper I think in the mouth it is a different story and we should start being honest with ourselves about how you don't need to cook every potato the same way

okay so what's your what's your beef with sweet potato fries? The sweetness is weird. The sweetness of a potato that is fried, it is weird. It tastes like you're eating a crispy butter stick or something. Yum. It is not good. There's a reason that you don't eat crispy butter sticks.

Speak for yourself. And they're also never crispy enough, I feel like are a bit soft they get soft i we uh went out for dinner for our holiday party last night we had a delicious sweet potato and it was just a a potato that just sat there it was nice big soft it was It was a good form of sweet potato. If they had turned it into little sticks or little threads that were soft, it would have made it not as good. I think that's a really good way of thinking about it,

that you don't have to cook, just because it's a potato does not mean, just because we named it a potato does not mean that it needs to be diced into fries. And I guess maybe the secret truth of it is that it's probably really not a potato, right? Right. I don't know. I guess that's it.

Right. Is it a like... Something else. What's a yam? And is that the same thing as a sweet potato? See, we don't know any of this. We don't know shit. And we run around putting sweet potato fries in our mouth as if that's a thing.

Right. And then you like dip them in ketchup even though it doesn't go together they don't go together it's not that you dislike sweet potatoes oh no it is that i dislike okay i'm sorry i just got ahead of you there so you like you just don't like them in fry form i don't like them in fry form okay i like a nice baked yam yeah i like a baked yam more than i like a baked potato oh okay, okay. Yeah, that's good. What's underrated? Digital comic books.

Digital comic books. Digital comic books. Okay. What do you read them on? I have the Marvel Comics app, and I read them on my iPad. Okay. Everywhere, especially on airplanes. Airplanes.

What is something that people, so I'm just imagining having to pinch and scroll around a image. What am I missing about digital comic books? Well, the best part is you don't have to go anywhere to get them. Right. You don't have to go. To a comic book store and be surrounded by a bunch of nerds. Right. Gross.

Well, most of them are empty now anyway. Right. There's just the one nerd behind the counter. And you can go keep him company. That's fine. Right. But you don't want to depend on him. Yes.

And their weird hours and the conversations that they want to have with you that are not about what you are buying. I mean, we used to perform and I used to be involved with Nerd Melt, Meltdown Comics, and it is now gone. R.I.P. That was a great place. Bummer. I still want to read comic books regardless of whether

or not there are comic book stores. I'm happy about this other option. What's something exciting that's happening? We rarely talk about comics on the Daily Zeitgeist, but I feel like that's an oversight on our part. We should talk more about comics. What's the most exciting thing that's happened in comics in your mind

over the past couple years? The X-Men have just gotten rebooted in the comics, and it's fucking great. Is it? Oh, it's so good. They're all like separatists now and they live on their own island and they started

growing these drugs that humans depend on for health so they're just lording that over everybody and not letting anybody on their island. It's fucking great. That's awesome. I was featured in a comic book recently. Not to brag you were what do you mean by that uh my likeness um it was in a comic called ghosted in la okay by cena grace

and uh jamie was as well we depicted us being at a like a live Bechtelcast show talking about Titanic obviously. We were drawn in the comic. That's awesome. Did you frame it? I have not framed it yet. I've never framed anything in my entire life. Really? Including my diploma where I got my master's degree in screenwriting from Boston

University. It's a piece of paper lying somewhere. In a file cabinet somewhere. Somewhere in my apartment. In a file cabinet somewhere, loose. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty cool. So was it just sort of like background,

something that was going on in the background? Did it have something to do with the plot? Yeah, so the characters go to a live Bechdel cast show. So we are not the focus. Look at you guys. Yeah, we got a few frames. And the crowd is laughing. They're loving it. Look at you guys. But yeah, we got a few frames. And the crowd is laughing. They're loving it.

Their rear ends off. I might go home and download that on my iPad. Yeah. Ghosted in LA. Check it out. They're ha-ha-ing. There's big ha-ha's

flying through the air. There's some pretty big ha's. Heavy LOL-ing. And finally, what is a myth? What is something people think is true You know to be false or vice versa

That you can only get the chicken pox one time Oh yeah That is not true How many times have you had it? Three How does this happen? My immune system is just stubborn that way It doesn't want to learn lessons

Were they all When you were a child? Yeah, at different stages of childhood. I think the last time I had them was like 13. Got it. I had shingles. Yeah. So that's like a... All right.

Flex. Yeah. Shingles is like a form of chicken pox that's like left on the body or something. Yeah, so you get chicken pox and then that virus lies dormant in your system. And sometimes later in life, it'll flare up as shingles. Usually it happens in an older population, but I got it when I was 19 because I'm special. But I had chicken pox when I was three years old, and it was a very, very mild case.

I only think I had like three little pox on me. One for each year. One for each year I was alive. You were like a sequoia in that respect. Yeah, exactly. And the doctors speculated that I got shingles so young because I had such a mild case, and I got it so young. Are you an X-man or an X-man? I'm an X-woman. An X-woman. But yes so young. Are you an X-Man? Or an X-Man? I'm an X-Woman.

An X-Woman. But yes. Thank you for acknowledging. With a very specific mutation. Well alright guys let's talk about Star Wars Episode 9. The end of the saga. Oh boy. It is as you said Mike people are pissed

already. They're fired up because the last movie, The Last Jedi, pissed a lot of people off. It tried to take Star Wars in a new direction, tried to upset some people's expectations. I have a question. Yeah. This new direction.

Yes. It was just that she's not related to anybody? Yeah. That was the entire new direction? That was it? That was it. That's not related to anybody that was the entire new direction that was it and then I also like that they killed that one dude who it seemed like he was going to be

a big villain and then they just cut him in half I thought that was dope Snoke I wanted to say Smaug but that is the dragon from The Hobbit but yeah they just chopped him in half that was one of my favorite moments I wanted to say Smaug, but that is the dragon from The Hobbit. But yeah, they just chopped him in half. That was one of my favorite moments of a Star Wars movie.

But yeah, and I'm not going to lie. I did not like that new direction that much. Neither did I. In retrospect. And I don't like that I don't like it because it has like being like, no, they have to be genetically related is weird and like eugenics-y kind of? Like it's like kind of like, no, I want it to be all by genetics is weird and not something that I generally buy into but it does seem like the universe that we were given up to that point was one in which like the force was passed down like i don't know like as a as a gene but as a gene yeah they do do this like weird legacy thing with it up until do do do do um but they But also, like, Anakin Skywalker, who are his parents,

and do we care about that? Were they Jedi Masters? No. Right. So to me, I just interpreted the whole thing as, like, your Force powers, your Jedi potential is something that may be, like, passed down among generations. Or maybe you're just maybe it's you're

just born with this special maybe you're it's kind of an x-men thing maybe it's just right mutation but um that isn't even why i didn't like last jedi like the the the he like subverted the idea that like no ray doesn't have special parents although i maintain that ray's parents are c-3po and the other c-3po that we see at the beginning of a new hope yes um because she speaks so many languages how would she know how to communicate with bb-8 how does she speak wookiee she speaks all these languages she's a protocol droid is what i'm saying yes but she is the first Terminator in the Star Wars universe. Basically, yeah. She's got an endoskeleton that is a C-3PO.

Which a Rise of the Machines-esque plot in Star Wars would be fitting because there is in the background of the Star Wars movies, all of them up to this point, just droids being tortured and treated like shit and and programmed to be able to feel pain and uh fear right like c-3po they're like well why don't we give this one an anxiety disorder uh let's that that'd be fun for him. But yeah, so anyways, there seems to be in the run up to this even, like in the press and the interviews with J.J. Abrams and the cast, a light struggle for the soul of Star Wars where they're like, oh, we're so glad that it's back in J.J.'s hands. hands and according to the reviews he has done some retconning or

going back on some of the unpopular decisions of episode 8 that critics liked and fans did not like and now critics are pissed Scott Mendelsohn from Forbes is calling it the worst

Star Wars movie ever ever worse than the clone, Attack of the Clones Forbes is calling it the worst Star Wars movie ever. Oh, Jesus Christ. Already? Ever. The worst. Worst than the clone? The Attack of the Clones? Oof. So, I was telling Caitlin, I kind of like Attack of the Clones. Well, I like The Last Jedi.

I kind of like Phantom Menace. I kind of like Attack of the... Do you like The Last Jedi? I do. Yeah. I think it... I don't know. I didn't...

You know, I just thought it was a good Star Wars movie and I liked that it moved the story that we've been watching I don't care who's related to who I think that's the right way to feel you got Qui-Gon Jinn and early Wendu who's he related to?

who cares? Mace Windu who cares? the other thing is that Jedi swear like an oath to be celibate, right? Do they? They're not allowed to fuck. I don't think Jedi are allowed to fuck.

Yeah, they're like priests. Yeah. So like they wouldn't have really a legacy or like a lineage. Right. So I think it's more that you're just like born special. But the reason, I mean, there were things I liked about The Last Jedi. I liked its treatment of women better than pretty much any other Star Wars movie. I liked the first half hour and the last half hour.

There's just a chunk in the middle that slogged a bit for me. The casino escape. That was stupid. Yeah. That was stupid. That whole thing, I think everyone was like, yeah, fuck that. Yeah, the B-plot, yeah, they could have left. The B-plot could fuck that. Yeah, the B plot, yeah, they could have left. The B plot could have stayed.

B, gone. Could have stayed on the, yeah. We'll go with yours. So anyways, just running down what critics think. Episode four, A New Hope, the first Star Wars, is the highest rated at 90 on Metacritic. Then The Last Jedi. Episode eight, the most recent one. Empire Strikes Back is at 82.

The Force Awakens is at 81. Revenge of the Sith is at 68. Big jump there. Rogue One, 65. I thought Rogue One was pretty good. Better than Revenge of the Sith. I saw it on a plane. That's for sure. So I can't than Revenge of the Sith. I saw it on a plane. That's for sure.

So. Okay. I can't trust my opinion of any movie that I saw on a plane. I saw it in the theater. I just like movies I see on a plane. They're better. They're better in the sky. Yeah.

Right. Then Solo, a Star Wars story. Critics like that. I didn't see that. More than I remembered. Mm-hmm. Then Return of the Jedi. Return of the Jedi is below Solo, a Star Wars story?

Yeah. So critics don't know what the fuck they're talking about when it comes to Star Wars movies, I think is the moral of this story. So do these Metacritic numbers, they don't change over time? They just, whatever it's set on when? Yeah, I think so. That's weird.

Yeah. Because it wasn't even a Metacritic then. Right. So what did they go back and look at? Yeah, they go back. That's weird. Yeah. Because it wasn't even a Metacritic then. Right. So what did they go back and look at? Yeah, they go back and look at the reviews and then assigned them numbers, numerical values. There were like three newspapers then. Right. Yeah.

I mean, when you go back and look at the original Ghostbusters, it got really bad reviews. People were like this. Well, did it deserve it? Maybe. You remember my recent yeah that's true your recent overrated was the ghostbusters universe uh bad example but then and then after return of the jedi we've got uh attack of the clones attack of the clones 54 then phantom menace lowest ranked other than clone wars which is like the animated one that nobody really thinks of as canon.

But Phantom Menace, so the newest one is on Metacritic between Attack of the Clones and Phantom Menace. It is at like a 53, I think. So it's second to worst in terms of critical consensus. And according to some critics, the absolute worst. Other people say the plot snaps together like a puzzle or something like that like a bunch of puzzle pieces that just snap into so you know i think i think it's definitely worth seeing and forming your own

opinion would be my be my uh advice have we ever seen something like this where like everybody loved and then everybody decided to hate it one time? Like on this scale? Probably not. Okay, maybe I'm wrong about this, but I feel like when Avatar first came out, people were like, oh, this is good. And then like a short time after,

everyone's like, wait a minute, this is bad. Avatar was like a magic trick where it was it. I remember seeing it and I was like, that's going to change movies. Like I barely blinked that whole movie. My eyes were drying out because I couldn't blink because it was so cool. And then I totally like it just disappeared from my mind. Like it was just like that doesn't that didn't make any impression that movie was nothing i don't i don't think it ever tried to tell us hey come see avatar because it's a good movie right i don't think they have that was ever part of the marketing

was always like hey come have this new experience yeah yeah it was more like a ride than yeah it was like going to a theme park but But yeah, that was one. That's an interesting one where it felt like this big event that then didn't last the same way that other movies do. Fast and the Furious did the opposite where it started and people were like, ah, this is garbage. And now people are like, this is the best franchise ever. Like people really love that shit.

Hobbs and Shaw was one of my favorite movies this year. Really? I'm not even joking. I had so much. It wasn't like a good movie, but I had so much fun watching it that, man, can I give my rankings for Star Wars? Yes, please. Okay, so this is the right order, everybody.

So just so everybody can get my notes out. Star Wars yes please okay so this is the right order everybody please do not at me do not I don't want to hear it but this is the right order okay and this is best Star Wars movie to worst number one Return of the Jedi yeah I said it Empire Strikes Back can fuck itself and be at

number two okay okay I itself and be at number two okay because it's number two on my list it's not really having to fuck itself if it's the second best Star Wars movie ever also I do want to clarify you said earlier that you're not talking about Return of the Jedi the theatrical release you're talking about the movie edit

there's a specific TV edit the TV edit. There's a specific TV edit. The TV edit. There's a TV edit. That's what I meant to say. It's way better than the theatrical version. The reformatted for the screen version? Wow.

Where you can only see like four- As a square. I don't know. I grew up watching this TV edit of the movie and it's just like cleaner and more polished and just a tighter story. I think that is the lesson for everybody. We grew up watching blank and that is the

archetypal version of Star Wars in our mind. But that doesn't make me wrong about this. No, it doesn't. Actually, this is the right opinion. Continue. Thank you so much. So Return of the Jedi, number one. Empire Strikes Back, number two. Number three, Force Awakens. Ooh! That is a hot take. higher than a new hope

which arguably it is based on and just a recreation of yes but improved upon improved upon because a much better central character right because daisy ridley versus luke skywalker Luke Skywalker. Luke sucks. Does Luke suck? What did Luke do? Just go with us on this, Mike. Come on. He's a whiny baby for the first two movies. He's like an orphan. He had an aunt and uncle. And yes, they did die in a gruesome death.

All he had was robots after that. Yeah. He'd be sad. He had a friend. He had a few friends. He had a mentor who also died a gruesome death. Look, okay. Luke is a whiny baby, and then he gets way too overconfident in Return of the Jedi.

Return of the Jedi. But that is your preferred version. Yes. Okay. So A New Hope is number four for me. Number five, Rogue One. Okay. Six.

I'm going to go with Solo here. Wow. I know. Okay, but we're getting into the bad ones. Okay. Seven is the Star Wars Holiday Special. Okay. Yep. Ahead of the prequels. Ahead of the prequels and

Last Jedi, which comes in at number eight. I don't know why I laugh and these are the correct opinions This is funny how wrong I am That's what's funny I'm so glad you acknowledge how wrong you are How many mistakes that I have made

in thinking about these movies And then 9, 10, and 11 is Revenge of the Sith, Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones comes in last Wow. I still like that scene where they have a car chase where he jumps out of the car and just falls through the vertical city. That shit is dope. That's okay.

That's one good scene in that movie. And that's all I remember. I think that was the first movie I saw drunk. The first Star Wars movie I saw drunk. And then you've been drunk for every one since. Yeah, and ever since I love Star Wars. I don't know what it is. It's a tradition now, right?

Yeah, I mean, I don't necessarily agree with that order. I will say, however, to my earlier point, I think Teen Wolf is a perfect movie. Teen Wolf? Yeah. Okay. Because I saw Teen Wolf. Teen Wolf was one of the first movies i saw

like a hundred times and my movie uh viewing apparatus is like like your eyeballs shaped like no just like what my opinion of like what a good movie is shaped like team wolves so like it sucks it's not a good like it's not a good movie judging apparatus. So I openly admit that. Okay, I see what you're saying. Not enough Teen Wolfs in Star Wars is my overall statement. So these conversations are framed about what we grew up watching. Right.

Right? So if my list was ordered by that Matrix, my number one Star Wars movie would be the Ewoks movie. Ooh. Which is filled with little teen wolves. Yeah, it is. Raising a little teen wolf. Oh, man.

I have to reorder my whole list. Oh, shit. I don't know. Do you have a clear number one in the Star Wars saga? Ooh, no. I like the first three. I like them all. they're one movie that you just see in three parts um i had this weird thing where i like revenge of the sith even though it

was terrible but i liked it yeah um the first like the attack of the clones i cannot stay awake during that movie yeah i cannot yeah yeah that and umace. Well, no. I was thinking about the other movie that I can't stay awake and I can't even remember the name of it. Is it a Star Wars movie or something else? No, but it's another huge sci-fi movie that people love a lot that was remade recently. Blade Runner? Yes. I cannot stay awake.

I cannot stay awake during either Blade Runner. Those movies are boring. Yeah. And so, yeah, the first ones I don't think about. I mean, the prequels I don't think about. The original trilogy I think is great. And I like the most recent too, a lot. I didn't love Rogue One as much

because I'm not here for the side stories really. Sure. Not really. I just want to know what happens in the main story. Yeah. Well, all right those are all correct opinions i think we are each of us is correct i don't mind being less correct though yeah it's all fine with me uh all right we're gonna take a quick break and

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Are we recording? Are we good? Oh, we push record, right? And this season, we're taking an even bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history. Seeing that the most popular cocktail is the margarita, followed by the mojito from Cuba, and the piña colada from Puerto Rico. So all of these...

We have, we thank Latin culture. There's a mention of blood sausage in Homer's Odyssey that dates back to the 9th century B.C. B.C.? I didn't realize how old the hot dog was. Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.

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You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends

at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible.

Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture.

This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. Hi, everyone. It's me, Katie Couric. Have you heard about my newsletter called Body and Soul? It has everything you need to know about your physical and mental health. Personally,

I'm overwhelmed by the wellness industry. I mean, there's so much information out there about lifting weights, pelvic floors, cold plunges, anti-aging. So I launched Body and Soul to share doctor-approved insights about all of that and more. We're tackling everything. Serums to use through menopause, exercises that improve your brain health, and how to naturally lower your blood pressure and cholesterol. Oh, and if you're as sore as I am from pickleball, we'll help you with that too. Most importantly, it's information you can trust. Everything is vetted by experts at the top of their field, and you can write into them directly to have your questions answered. So

sign up for Body and Soul at katiecouric.com slash body and soul. Taking better care of yourself and we're back and uh the president is as we speak about star wars for 45 minutes the president what space force is being impeached i say space force i'm talking about impeaching this cream uh and he's not dealing well with it i mean i don't know what anyone expected he sent an angry impotent letter addressed to his democratic colleagues uh that was just ranting and somewhat incoherent and uh you can tell it's proofread by someone punched up for language fanciness because he uses various words that seem like they're outside of his range. But he claims that he doesn't think it's going to change anyone's mind.

He's just doing it for the purpose of history. And yeah, he's being impeached and freaking out on Twitter, which is... Well, in character for him, I guess. Yep. It's what he does. Yes. Do you guys want to hear 30 of the most unhinged lines or a couple of the 30 most unhinged?

And then let's rank them afterward. Yes. This is what we do. You have cheapened the importance of the very ugly word impeachment exclamation point that's so weird just a lot of twists and turns in that because so many adjectives yeah cheapened the importance of an ugly word which it seems like he has esteem for the word but then it's a very ugly word uh it's, you dare to invoke the founding fathers in pursuit of this election nullification scheme?

What? Yeah. That sounds like Dr. Doom. I know, it does. There's a lot of exclamation points in this letter. How many exclamation points are there in the Constitution? I would guess... None?

Zero. Yeah. Hell of a lot of semicolons but not no lots of ellipses yeah lots of yeah i don't know this is fuck it let's not talk about this letter i'm over it i'm over this guy we're how are you guys feeling about the upcoming election do you think he's gonna get re-elected oh gosh um i don't know. I really truly don't have much faith in humanity anymore. So I don't know. I think not, but I don't know.

We all thought Hillary was going to get nominated or to get elected. Win the election. Yeah, but that didn't happen. get nominated or to get elected. Win the election. Yeah. But that didn't happen. So I didn't know. I don't know. What do you think, Mike? I chalked a lot of what happened

when the last election up to people being kind of apathetic and feeling like, oh, Hillary's just going to win. So like everybody stayed home. Yeah. You know. I think that.

So I remember like right after he got inaugurated and like the women's marches and all that feeling like oh yeah he's gonna get totally destroyed in the next election because people are dialed in now like they know that they need to like come out and. And I've been coasting on that hope for the past two and a half years. Three years. But now, day by day, I find my cynicism creeping up and I'm getting scared. Because his supporters are getting angry. No, they're fans.

No, they're fans. That's what they are. His wrestling fans are getting angrier and angrier and stirred up more and more. Yeah, what's his approval rating these days? Do we know? It's still below his disapproval rating by a good 10 percentage points. Okay. Well, that gives me some hope.

Well, you know, the other thing is, too, there was a lot of weird shit that had to happen for all those people's minds to get changed the first time. Like for their anger and their frustration to be capitalized upon in a way that would perfectly help him. All that Facebook trickery and all that shit. Yeah. They can't necessarily do all that shit again.

Right. So he has who he has. They're going to try. Of course they're going to try. I think it's a little harder to do now. Right. Because a lot of the Facebook shit was actually instilling apathy in people. It was just being like just tamping down people's enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton.

It's just like, yeah, you don't have to vote for Trump, but like you don't want to vote for her. And, you know, I think that ended up swaying the election. I mean, so much of it came down to like 2,000 votes or 20,000 votes in certain states. Well, oh my God. Don't remind me about how Hillary won the popular vote and then because of our dumb shit electoral college system is how we have Trump as president. Yeah, I really can't say. I'm hoping with all of my heart and praying to, I don't know, I don't pray to anybody, but Charles Darwin. I'm praying to him that he does not get reelected.

I haven't become apathetic, but I have just lost a lot of hope in the system. Not that I had much to begin with. The British election is really like... That was a punch in the face. Yeah, that was... Boris Johnson did that. Do you see that Love Actually homage that Boris Johnson did?

That scene from Love actually where the creepy guy has all the signs car yeah the signs he yeah he like did that as a campaign ad and uh it made me throw up in my mouth the guy shows up to his best friend's house and tells his best friend's wife that he's in love with her. Right. But quietly, so his best friend doesn't hear. Doesn't hear. And it's like, that's love. That's what love is, actually.

That's romantic. That's actually. That's like being a fucking human monster. Like, that is the worst thing. And it's clearly written by a guy because the woman's like oh it's so sweet and then she runs out and kisses him and it's like what if your best friend had opened the door yeah what was your plan dude oh fuck yourself that movie that whole movie can go truly right ahead and fuck itself um well uh do we want to talk about voter purges

now that we're on the subject of yeah how the republicans are gonna win because georgia has followed up the uh single largest purging of voter rolls uh 500 000 voters in 2018 with a yet another voter purge of 300,000 Georgians, basically creating rules that are difficult, inconvenient for people to follow, and then using those rules to disqualify people. And Wisconsin, they do the same shit. They've purged over 230,000 voters.

Wisconsin is the state where Trump won by 23,000 votes. So, yeah, you got to check on your registration no matter where you live because this is the way that Republicans can win, even if we have a huge turnout. How is this legal? How do we let this happen um it's straight up kleptocracy the people in power are stealing power by changing the rules of making it like they're not even trying to justify it as fair or a reasonable way of usually happens in like low income areas or like neighborhoods where that are like predominantly uh people of color living in

them stuff like that that's like where these this voter purging and uh voter suppression usually happens right yes is this where trump installing all those judges comes in yeah okay well all right yeah quietly the he's quietly doing damage that will last a lifetime one quick case study i want to do uh that we've had on the dock for a couple days is this story that was written about something that happened in i guess des moines or somewhere? Or somewhere, yeah, in Des Moines. So this guy who lives across from an elementary school where 60% of the students are not white decided to glow up his front yard with Confederate flags and swastikas.

And the way, I just want to read through this article because it's a good example of the both sidesing shit that like drives me crazy and that i think is like a cancer on our democracy so like it says this fox 32 article says a homeowner living to a next to an elementary school in iowa is facing backlash for painting Confederate battle flags and swastikas on pallets around his property. The symbols are clearly visible from the school. He added that people shouldn't construe the painted pallets as racist. But Morris Elementary in Des Moines disagreed

and released a statement denouncing Stark's ideology. School officials say the students, who are about 60% non-white, see the symbols when arriving and leaving school and even from the playground. They don't know their history, evidently, Stark said. That's the only reason I can think of that they think anything bad about it. They don't know their history.

So they're just like putting, I don't know, that drives, like, and then they just leave that out there. They're like, but then a school parent said the swastika is a symbol of white supremacy. It's like, yeah, that's kind of the purpose. Yes, that's. And then but they print him saying, well, if you think this is bad, you don't know your history. Just like alongside that.

You mean the history of people being obscenely racist throughout history? Yeah. Man, if people, if he's like a racist piece of shit, he should just, like for him to be like, no, this isn't racist. You just don't know your history what what does he think he what i can't even articulate what i'm trying to point to first of all that what's the non-racist history of the swastika and confederate flag together right right like yeah it's the alternate history that white supremacists tell each other that involves them as the protagonists.

And, you know, that's just left unspoken. And it just, the article basically begs the question, what history is he talking about? And doesn't point to it. Doesn't address it. Just leaves it out there. it doesn't doesn't say it doesn't address it just leaves it out there i guess it's that it's the idea of objectivity that it seems like journalism tries to hold on to yes but can it no because there's no such thing really right well it's we have this show on this now we're called worst year ever that's about 2020 here we're about to start and just has already said this is gonna be bad and they did a profile of jake tapper uh they did really cool like their first few episodes

are about uh you know the sources that we currently rely on for coverage of the election and they did this thing on jake tapper and like as you trace how he covers politics, you see that he has fetishized finding a way to... He'll do a thing that is pro-left, but then he has to find something that's pro-right, even as the right moves further and further to the right towards racism and white supremacy. towards racism and white supremacy. And it's just, it's infuriating, but it's just this very surface level definition of objectivity that they've all subscribed to. I mean, what I don't understand about this guy

who's like very clearly flaunting like racist iconography in his front yard and his stupid hat uh if you see the picture and then for him to be like no this stuff isn't racist like he's clearly a racist person what if if you have racist ideology but you're saying no i'm not racist that's almost sort of acknowledging that you know racism is bad right or he like knows that it's not okay to be racist but he's

still flaunting this imagery why doesn't he just come out and say yes I am like why is he ashamed of it is there some level of I just don't understand this line of thinking where he'd be like, no, this isn't racist. This is just history.

Yeah. They don't know their history. I cannot make sense of it. Yeah. Because I. I think it's basically like that's what Trump is. Right. Yeah.

They're like, well, on the one hand, he's lying. But on the other hand, his supporters are saying this and it's just like i think racists just need to out themselves as racists openly i mean they're being pretty open about it i mean well then they get punched in the face and they don't want that to happen maybe yeah maybe this guy just doesn't want to get punched he's probably still gonna get punched i'll punch i'll go to des moines right now and i like des moines that guy should leave yeah uh all right let's take another break we'll be back to talk about cats which is what you're all here for anyways i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life it It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you.

Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up?

Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago.

We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, everyone. It's me, Katie Couric. Have you heard about my newsletter called Body and Soul? It has everything you need to know about your physical and mental health. Personally, I'm overwhelmed by the wellness industry.

I mean, there's so much information out there about lifting weights, pelvic floors, cold plunges, anti-aging. So I launched Body and Soul to share doctor-approved insights about all of that and more. We're tackling everything. Serums to use through menopause, exercises that improve your brain health, and how to naturally lower your blood pressure and cholesterol. Oh, and if you're as sore as I am from pickleball,

we'll help you with that too. Most importantly, it's information you can trust. Everything is vetted by experts at the top of their field, and you can write into them directly to have your questions answered. So sign up for Body and Soul at katiecouric.com slash body and soul. Taking better care of yourself is just a click away. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre.

It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar.

Santos! Santos! Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up.

In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church, and then a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away.

I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session, 24 hours.

BPM 110, 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything?

You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre.

It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Santos! Santos!

Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. Hi, everyone. It's me, Katie Couric. Have you heard about my newsletter called Body and Soul? It has everything you need to know about your physical and mental health. Personally, I'm overwhelmed by the wellness industry.

I mean, there's so much information out there about lifting weights, pelvic floors, cold plunges, anti-aging. So I launched Body and Soul to share doctor-approved insights about all of that and more. We're tackling everything. I launched Body and Soul to share doctor-approved insights about all of that and more. We're tackling everything. Serums to use through menopause, exercises that improve your brain health, and how to naturally lower your blood pressure and cholesterol. Oh, and if you're as sore as I am from pickleball, we'll help you with that too. Most importantly, it's information you can trust.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Cats has come out uh it is apparently uh so the one i'll give you two reviews i don't want to spoil anything but uh one person said it is too horny for its own good oh see i don. Which I don't think is possible. Noel, I've seen some things in my life that I could definitely say. I could apply that too. And then a furry said, somebody who identifies as a furry said,

furries want something they can fuck fat to, and Cat's movie is not that. Damn, but not horny enough. Right. Yeah, too horny or not horny enough. Damn. The ballet aspects are a display of human beauty and movement and form. If you CGI that, it'll be trashy. Also, Cats is not a particularly comfortable watch to begin with.

It's meant to be like, well, Cats. Okay. Well, first of all, I would be remiss not to mention that cats, as an animal, have eight nipples, and that's cat facts with Caitlin. Yes. If you don't know what I'm talking about, I'm so sorry to say that. But it's true. Cat facts don't lie. So cats have eight nipples or some other number of nipples depending on the cat. Is that true?

Yeah. How about just one nipple? They probably don't have just one nipple unless they got in an accident. Well, true. There's not a uniform number of cat nipples? Some of them have six. Fewer nipples? Yeah, fewer.

Some of them have up to, I think, 10. How about that? Yeah. It just, I guess, depends on the kitty. Cat facts with Caitlin. But I think the average is eight.

So that's what I stick with. Now, the problem, the main problem with this film Cats is that the anatomy. The anatomy is extremely inaccurate now we see some of like the um taylor taylor swift we see rebel uh wilson like they jennifer hudson oh my

god are all these people really in this movie they idris elba's in this movie idris Elba. Stop it. Idris Elba is in this movie. Jason Derulo. Well, he makes sense. He makes sense. And as we talked about earlier in the week, in our most important news up to this story, they had to CGI his dick out because it was so prominent. Jason Derulo. Wow. So they didn't have to do all the dicks, just his?

Just his. That's his claim. Okay, Jason. Yeah. so they didn't have to do all the dicks just his just his that's his claim okay jason yeah now okay so for the the women playing the cat roles they have we see them have like breast lumps but only two of them yeah so if you're gonna make an anatomically accurate cats movie yeah there should be eight breasted cats i think you are expressing the problem that the furry had because the furry says we want something we can fuck fab to

but then immediately says it's about expressing the beauty of the human form not the cat form. So we need to... It's too balletic. We need to be sexualizing cats. Yes. That's what I'm saying.

Absolutely. I mean, if we're going to start we might as well go all the way. The beautiful act of cats making love to one another. As we all know. And the beautiful sounds they make. Beautiful and tender lovemaking

that happens between two alley cats. Oh my God. Go ahead. The original cats from the 80s. They have such a complicated, fraught relationship with this IP. Hell yeah. Because we were talking about Avatar, right?

And Avatar was this giant thing. But now we ain't got to think about it ever again. Right. I was hoping Cats was like this because it terrified me when I was a child. Yeah. Because you would only ever see like, I would only ever see like commercials for it. Right. In the middle of shit that didn't have anything to do with that.

Right. And I'm like, what the fuck is that? That shit looks weird as shit. Did you ever see it? No! I never would have. And I would hope, I hoped, what I hoped is that the opportunity would never even arise for me to see anything like this. And now that it's back and now that it's done in this way that it's provocative

and everybody's talking about it, it's like one of my worst nightmares. Yes. So the more I learned about cats, the stranger it got because the, so there's no story. There's no story.

Right. Like it's just a series of songs tied together by the premise that like one of the cats is dying, but it's very vague. The main attraction, one of the big innovations, sorry, I get choked up when I talk about cats.

One of the big innovations of Cats, the musical, is that they come out into the audience. Yes. See? They come out into the audience and crawl over you. Everything that I was afraid of is real. Right, exactly. It's exactly as terrifying as you thought it was.

So Tom Hooper, who made The King's Speech. An Academy Award winning film. Yes. I still, yes. I would rank that as last on my Star Wars movie list. Wait, okay, isn't the story, and I've never seen the stage production of Cats, but what I'm gathering from the trailers for the movie

is that Judi Dench Cat has to pick, she gets to pick someone. Judi Dench is, it's like it's just the best cast ever. Ian McKellen is as well. So Judi Dench Cat is like, hey, one of you gets to live a new life and I'm choosing which cat of you like cluster of

clatter, I think, of alley cats gets to, I don't know if it's like a nine lives kind of thing where they're all about to die and then like one of them gets to be reborn or like just gets to keep living that's what i'm please uh listeners correct me if i'm wrong or let me know what the the loose premise of this thing is here but yeah are we talking about rum tum tugger what we're talking about mr mistoffelees? Uh-oh. Couldn't say. Yes. Jelly Low Rum? Jelly Low Rum?

These sound very sexy. These names are doing it for me. Skimble Shanks? That one sounds like a disease. That sounds like, yeah, sounds like something you get if your chicken pox come back. I got some Skimble Shanks in my hips.

Carbuckety? Oh, okay. Griddlebone? These are all cat names, yes. Or Blue Singers. Rumpel Teaser? And Bustopher Jones. That's a hell of a name.

Bustopher? Bustopher Jones. That is hell yeah. Yeah, these are all cats who are eligible to die or something. And then Judi Dench is like one of you. It's about an afterlife, right? Like one of the cats dies and ascends to the afterlife. Oh, so it's basically the series Lost or something. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lost is based on cats.

Cats, yes. So that's the general premise from what I gather. But yeah, I don't think there's not really a story James Corden's just sort of like bouncing around he looks like he was born to wear this costume I agree

like it's he's the one like the whole trailer I was like what the fuck is going on here and then he showed up and I was like oh okay yeah yeah this all makes sense well people have been talking for a while about how like weird the just the imagery is of the cat but like i think the worst part about it is that they don't have cat noses they just have human noses if they had just done a little bit of makeup and made them have little cat noses i think it would be far better than what it is but because we have human

noses but then these like cat ears and like fur bodies it's just there's so much dissonance i think i figured it out yeah they put out the trailer to start the uproar um now you have to start the add the nipples and noses movement so they'll change it like the Sonic movie they did change it that's what they've been doing so they did the premiere the other night and Tom Hooper the director said he had been working on the movie

up until like the previous morning and he finished he put the finishing touches on it after a 36 hour long work session. They were still CGI-ing. So this is what's strange to me. Like you look at that and you're like,

oh, it's a bunch of actors in bad cat costumes. Yeah. It is not. Those are actors who did mocap. They were in motion capture like with the little light bulbs on them. And then they CGI'd shitty cat costumes

onto them. Yikes. And that is what they were adjusting because people were like, no, it looks bad. And so they were adjusting the shitty cat costume CGI on Met. When is this supposed to be released? I think this weekend

I have a ticket to see it on Friday morning I'm going to be first in line to see cats and you're seeing Star Wars tonight so I keep up to date with my movies I can't wait to hear from you

I'll text you first thing. Do you do drugs, Caitlin? No, I'm extremely bad at drugs. I can't even smoke weed without having a panic attack. So you're going to go see Cats Friday morning? Sober. Stone sober. Stone sober.

I will not pull a Jack and get drunk. You might have to. You should definitely drink. By the way, getting a panic attack never stopped me from smoking weed. I continued to smoke weed despite the fact that it gave me a panic attack because I wanted to be cool. Cool, yeah. So just a thing about me. How cool did you feel?

Real cool. Your chest was imploding. Yeah, my chest was imploding, and I was certain everybody was thinking about the fact that I hadn't talked the whole night. And that I had my hands in my pocket even though I was sitting down. Oh, man. Some of the journalists at the premiere liked the movie.

Yeah, okay, we already talked about Too Horny for Its Own Good. We have not released the embargo on Miles's mom. Miles's mom is a film critic, and she gave my favorite review of a movie I've ever heard, but we will reveal that after her review is published. That's it. Great. I'm so excited to see it.

You really are, aren't you? I mean, in a way that I know it's going to be an absolute train wreck, and I just want to be on the train for the wreck. Right. Yeah. Briefly, I want to talk about Survivor. I guess Survivor season finale happened last night post the recording of this show.

But yesterday they finally made a statement about their policy around sexual harassment that happened on the island. So a woman was sexually harassed on the island. So a woman was sexually harassed by a middle-aged to elderly contestant who kept putting his head on her lap and just doing things that were uncomfortable

and stroking her hair and putting his arm around her when they were sleeping on the beach and just very uncomfortable things uh and she asked the producers not to do anything because she didn't want to quote negatively impact her chances to win the game still the producers talked to the group as a whole about personal boundaries and issued the harasser a formal warning so the the woman who was being harassed, Kelly Kim, and the harasser is a 48-year-old Hollywood talent manager named Dan Spilo.

So the producers issued him a formal warning. Then Kelly Kim bonded with two other women who told her they'd had similar experiences with Spilo. The three of them relayed this information to Janet, who was one of Dan Spilo's allies. And then responding to these allegations of sexual harassment, Janet agreed to vote Dan off. So who was voted off that week?

Kelly Kim. Was it Kelly Kim? It was Kelly Kim. Turns out those other two women were fucking lying. They were essentially making Dan a decoy so they could take Kim out. Oh my.

That's fucking weird. Yeah. So they weaponized the fact that she had been sexually harassed on the show. That is some fucked up gender traitor shit. And I'm furious. Yes. Also that Kelly Kim it would if she came forward about this or like talk to producers about it uh she her thinking that that would

hurt her chances on the show that is incredibly i mean i understand like being in that position and but the fact that that's something she had to worry about is also mind-bogglingly and just like horrendously upsetting yes and that she should have had to worry about because then it was used as like a yeah it's a it's a great metaphor for why uh a lot of women feel like they can't come forward with exactly this um especially when it was other women teaming up against, pretending to be her ally, and then using that as ammunition to get rid of her. Oh, I hate it.

So they just didn't believe her, or they did believe her and just didn't care? Did believe her, didn't care. Oh my. I think is the sense I get. Oh, I hate it. At the next tribal council, Dan gave a shitty half apology

and asked Jeff Probst, the host of Survivor, to just let it go. But because now that it has become a public thing, he has issued a more thorough apology that he is sorry if his actions made anyone feel uncomfortable. Oh, I hear. So, I mean, all good. Water under the bridge.

I want to go to his house also and punch him. There's a lot of people I need to punch. A lot of punching needs to go on in this world. Jeff Probst did an interview following the episode where he called the show a microcosm of our real world. Oh, God. Cool. I mean, true, but also not good.

You shouldn't fuck somebody out of a million dollars because they were sexually harassed right like uh and she was like hey you know i mean this is what's great about the show this is why people watch am i right folks anyways ladies and germs i've been jeff uh yeah but the producers could have just put a stop to it instead they let it all play out uh the actual victim ended up being punished and so yesterday cbs issued a statement congratulating themselves for even addressing it in the first place and then saying they were going to change their policy slightly uh going forward where like they wouldn't let somebody be sexually harassed wow Wow, what feminist icons they are.

I mean, they've been great since, you know, with, what was their fucking, Les Moonves? Les Moonves, yeah. Les Moonves, 60 Minutes was apparently just a fucking nightmare of sexual harassment. Yeah, so. This is why I have no faith in humanity. Yeah, I mean, and rightly, rightly no faith in humanity. Yeah.

I mean, and rightly so, apparently. Anyways, tune in to Survivor to see who wins. I guess it happened last night. Who gives a shit? Mike, I just wanted to end on a happy note. Let me try to find one. It's been a pleasure having you. That has been so much fun.

Yeah. What a great guest. Where can people find you, follow you? On the Twitter machine, Mike underscore Eagle. And I put everything there. I tell all my business there. So you can find us a portal to all the other important matters. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying?

Oh, is there a tweet that I like? I got one I definitely didn't like. I don't know if I, but I guess that's kind of antithetical to the good note thing. No, it's fine. Scott Adams. I don't know if y'all saw this. Silbert. This is like, this is someday late last week when like impeachment got real.

And Scott Adams tweets, I have never literally hated my government before today. This is new. Amazing. Yeah, this is as bad as it gets, man. The way they're treating this guy. Never, never once before has he ever seen a reason. This is new for him. Dislike the government.

Yeah. Oh, COINTELPRO. When things have gone. Cracked mass incarceration. Yeah, but when you've got a Dilbert-shaped pull-out back, things look slightly different to you. Caitlin, it's been great having you as

special guest co-host. Where can people find you, follow you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Caitlin Durante. You can check out the Bechdel cast where Jamie Loftus and I plus guests analyze movies from a feminist perspective.

Jamie! Dismantling patriarchy one movie at a time. Hell yeah. And I teach screenwriting classes online if you're interested in that go to my website caitlanderante.com check it out for more info What's a tweet you've been enjoying?

This comes from a comedian pal of mine at Kai Choice. The tweet is, if the Cats movie doesn't have anyone using a laptop as a chair, I don't want to see it. That's a really good point.

It's good. It'd be a big-ass laptop, though. Well, yeah. I mean, that is another thing they were spending a lot of time CGI-ing is, like, the scale. Because the cats are, like, cat-sized in this movie. Yeah, they're cat-sized, which is fun. Yeah, I appreciate that. I like that.

Everything you say makes me more scared. Dana Schwartz tweeted, I feel like if you told a teenager that Netflix used to let you watch TV shows by sending you individual DVDs in the actual mail, they would think you were making it up as a joke. I believe that's true. I think they would.

And Anna Hosnier tweeted, cut to a bunch of women fucking coming to Adam Driver not being able to handle his own performance. That Anna Hosnier. She's a riot. What a treat. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off nice to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out on. There's been some issues with footnotes as of late, but we are fixing them. So, they are fixed. Hell yeah. Anna Hosni, not only

tweeting funny shit, also fixing the footnotes issue. Wait, I just got one last anagram. Someone just tweeted this at me, and it's very topical. This comes from mostly Mutzart, and the anagram for Caitlin Durante is anti-dunce trial.

Speaking of impeachment. Yeah. So watch out. Yeah, that's more like that. Witch trial. Super producer Anna Hosnier, what are we going to write out on today? In honor of our guest, I am recommending a song by him. This is a song that me and my boyfriend listen to often.

Mostly my boyfriend puts it on because, as you all know, he doesn't let me touch the dial. Wow. 1967 in our house. Is that? Yeah, Zach McKeever is a monster. Okay. So this is called Very Much Money by Open Mic Eagle. Please enjoy it.

Go listen to his music, guys. It's like... It's terrific. It's the best. We chill hard to it. Smoke some blunts. We do. We smoke a lot of weed to his music.

And I do too. And I get panic attacks. Yeah. Not because of your music. I come over. I come over. I'm pounding. I'm having a heart attack.

Take me to the hospital. And we just ignore it. and your music actually chills me out we're like just listen to the open mic and you'll be fine so yeah enjoy that and thanks for being a showman thanks for having me the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio

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