The Daily Zeitgeist - Worst Summer Ever? Your Job Probably Shouldn't Exist... 9.22.21

Episode Date: September 22, 2021

In episode 993, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Bechdel Cast co-host Jamie Loftus to discuss insurance companies don't want to cover COVID victims, why your job is bullshit, Fox not sure how to attack Biden anymore? edible vaccines, Alberta’s World-Leading “Fuck It, The Pandemic’s Over” Experiment Backfired Hard and more!FOOTNOTES: Insurers: COVID coverage? Huh? What? Bullshit Jobs - A Theory That Should Save Us Fox not sure how to attack Biden anymore?  EAT YOUR VACCINE Alberta’s World-Leading “Fuck It, The Pandemic’s Over” Experiment Backfired Hard LISTEN: Throwing Snow - “Halos” Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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the talented Jamie Loftus! Jamie Loftus! Wake up in the morning feeling slightly giddy. Pack up Sunny and Flea. We're about to hit this city before I leave. Grab my wallet and a couple of Tums

because when I leave for hot dogs, I'm going to have some yum. I'm done talking about veneers. No time for ice cleaners. Eaners. Because this is the summer of wieners. Wieners.

Slice top heat those buns up all crispy. Hamburgers can miss me. I want those furters grilly. Wow. On top. Onions chopped. Mustard and that ketchup sauce Bellish if you wish Talking hot dogs like

That was so long That from Uncle Brew At the underscore Brew The Brew The Brew Really brought the heat today. I hope I did it justice.

Fucking classic. Wieners, Wieners. I thought there was going to be a hockey reference to going tweeners, but that was me projecting. I was like, oh, maybe some New England hockey lore to interject there. Oh, no, no. Summer of Wieners, Wieners. Yeah, Wieners all Wieners. How has that been? How did the summer of wieners treat you oh it was uh it was good my body is i would say basically recovered and i have to kind

of jump in for round two soon but for people who don't know what we're talking about what i'm saying like how's the summer of wieners how's um yeah i've just been having a ton of sex no i um have been working on a book about hot dogs for a couple of for basically the summer and we were traveling around eating hot dogs everywhere all over the country and just been like talking and thinking about hot dogs for several months. The same stretch of months where a study speculated, heavy on speculated, that eating a hot dog takes away 36 minutes of your one human life every time you do it. The summer I ate like 250 hot dogs, but. Wow. I digress. How much time does that give you at this point are you are you down

to like i'm like essentially a time traveler um wait you you did how many how many hot dogs did you say you think you ate is around like 200 but i need to i need to do the let's call it 220 uh times 36 minutes. Okay. Probably only like a week that you lost, right? Right? I mean, I don't know. 132 hours.

That's 132 hours. Okay. So it's like, fuck it, you know? Yeah, dude. And also something, something, serotonin extends your life. It's kind of gravy. Exactly. It all comes out. That's about five and a half days of your life it's kind of gravy exactly it all comes out that's about five and a half days of your life apparently that you lost by eating worth it i went up to 220

see i also fully think that if i looked deep enough into that study it was funded by like big lettuce or something i'm like who did that study how do you arrive at a figure like that lies all lies but the summer of wieners i know i was gonna say I'm like, who did that study? How do you arrive at a figure like that? Lies. All lies. Big hamburger. But the Summer of Wieners. I know. I was going to say. Big.

I was going to say it speaks a lot to Jamie's, where Jamie's at, that she thinks the primary competitor to hot dogs is lettuce. It's like, you know, the thing, the two things that you make a salad out of, either lettuce or, you know, a bunch of hot dogs. Chapter one, the food spectrum. To the left, lettuce. And on the other end, the hot dog. We all exist on a spectrum of lettuce to hot dog. And I'm unfortunately just fully a hot dog.

a hot dog the one hot dog uh one of my first memories is actually a hot dog experiment myself where i was staying with a babysitter and she was like you're gonna have three types of hot dogs we're gonna grill them we're gonna boil them and i forget what the third was but yeah i was like five three hot dogs like all different kinds i remember one being a little bit burnt and uh and then i threw it yes so yeah you don't like burnt hot dogs i didn't say i didn't like throw up from the taste i think i just it was too much for my little body my dad also had like a I've been like very interested in how everyone has a story about

hot dogs even if they don't think they do. Where like my dad also I was like well what's your hot dog memory and then he was like nothing and then two days later he told me the most like the weirdest story I'd ever heard about him. Yeah it was that harsh too. He's like shut up. most like the weirdest story I'd ever heard about him. Yeah.

It was that harsh too. He's like, shut up. Actually wait. Hours later, you're walking out. He's like, Jamie,

stop. I'm, I need to tell you, I need to tell you something. I haven't been forthright. And then he told me about a time he worked at a, like a dog track when he was 15. Cause he's very old. And, and then he told me about a time he worked at a like a dog track when he was 15 because he's very old and and then he was like and he like ate 10 hot dogs in a day and then

he went to the hospital i was like that's a hot dog story like what are you yeah you look me in the face and say you have no hot dog story when you've been hospitalized over because that's like 1970s hot dogs that's a lot of nitrates yeah yeah i i think why when i saw like on i think drivers die like triple d or some like food network show when i first saw like the ripper those deep fried hot dogs they like come from new jersey i was like yeah this is a fucking intersection of all of my belief systems and i spent like an entire summer with like my buddies like we would like do all kinds of fat we would fry the the hot dogs and we rendered like five pounds of bacon to just deep fry

our hot dogs in bacon grease and we would spiral cut them so they had like the most surface area for like maximum crispiness dude i got i i've i've been very invested in that market. We need to talk. Everyone has a ridiculous hot dog. Wait, okay. I'm going to text you about that later. Spiral cut hot dogs. And I'll do it in a voice. So she's killed it.

Kathy, you haven't had my spiral cut hot dogs. Kathy really liked your Irving. She did? She did,ving. She did? She did, yeah. She mentioned it. That's huge for you, Miles. Put it on the resume. Yeah.

All right, Jamie, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. are talking about, such as the fact that health insurers are trying to change the story on, change their story on whether they cover COVID, which is a disease you might have heard of, the worst pandemic in the history of these United States. We are going to talk about eating the vaccine. We are going to talk about employers' stance on drug tests. We're going to talk about eating the vaccine. We're going to talk about employers' stance on drug tests. We're going to talk about bullshit jobs, whether Fox has run out of ideas on how to attack Biden, all of that, plenty more. But first, Jamie, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh, okay. Well, the day we're recording this is september 21st so i looked up demi adigewebe's uh annual september 21st earth wind and fire video

first thing this goddamn morning and it is so wonderful it doesn't need my plug but i'm gonna give it to him anyways. He outdoes himself every single year. If you've never seen them doing video, he's always like raising money for different causes this year. It's for three different causes. As we're recording this, he's already raised over like $300,000. Like it's so incredible.

And this year I was especially excited for the video because it was filmed at my second Google. It was filmed at this house in the L.A. area of this woman who passed away a couple of years ago named Allie Willis, who wrote that, who wrote September by Earth, Wind and Fire. Oh, wow. Wait, so that like that pool party scene is that that's that house that's at her house and it's so it's i highly recommend like first of all donate to demi's fundraiser and watch the video because it always fucking rocks but this year i was especially hyped on it because she passed away i think it was last year or the year before kind of suddenly and she was like this iconic queer songwriter she wrote all these scissors sister songs she wrote for earth wind and fire and i got to like when i first moved to

la i got to work for her for a week because she just would like invite young cartoonists over to this like wild gorgeous house that's in the video and was just like so encouraging and cool and i feel like she i don't know she's she's written so encouraging and cool and i feel like she i don't know she's she's written so many famous songs i feel like went kind of underappreciated in her lifetime so people should learn about her too ali willis she was so cool and she like if you look at like if you just google image search her you're like holy shit this woman is a character she's really really cool and just for people who aren't familiar with demi's kind of ongoing stunt it's he he does a kind of increasingly elaborate video

to the earth wind and fire song because it says do you remember the 21st day of september is that right night 21st night of September. And it really does get better every single year. I have no idea how he does it, but this year there's like... He really like, it went to another place yet again. So

highly recommend you watch it and donate also. And then learn about Allie Willis while you're at it. And if you've never seen it, just watch them on a continuum. Like watch how the progression of these, because when you watch it from the first to the last, you're like, this is what you every year. Because we were like, how are you going to make it even bigger? And this year, truly the visual effects were fucking intense. I was like, Billie Eilish whom?

The dance scene. Okay, no spoilers on the pod, but you just got to watch it. It's so good. There's even cameos. You'll see Ify, you'll see Jaquise. There's cameos. Yeah. So good.

Did you say Billie Eilish whom yes i've never heard somebody say use it in that way with with the uh proper the whom instead of the who uh usually people is that wrong billy eilish whom i do love that that very refined. What is something you think is overrated, Jamie? What I think is overrated, and this is maybe controversial, is the Amityville horror. The film, the book, the true story. What are we talking? Well, it's not. I feel like, okay, so I went down the rabbit hole a couple weeks ago where incredible comedian Jo Firestone was posting about the fact that she was reading it i was like oh i'm in the mood to be scared scary season's coming up i

downloaded the audiobook i listened to it and it was like okay this is like uh based on a true story i think that is clearly not real like it just was like it was really scary but it was also like i was like this is like this is fake and it was it was fucking in my head so then i got i listened to the audiobook on a plane then i was home and i watched both of the amityville horrors the 70s one and the ryan reynolds one which is awful so bad It was like in Ryan Reynolds' I'm Serious era in the mid-2000s. Before Ryan Reynolds knew who Ryan Reynolds was. Yeah, before Ryan Reynolds was like, I'm really loud and I have a tequila company or whatever he's doing now.

It's gin, Jamie. That's my impression of Ryan Reynolds. I'm really loud. Yes. Anyways, he's fine. That movie isn't good. But it was like just and then I was watching videos of the Lorraine and Ed Warren and them on public access being like the Amityville horror is definitely real. And I just and then I was engaging with it so heavily and then i just

started getting mad because i'm like it's not real it's not real you're all liars like it's so interesting to like trace how it seems like the couple with the amityville horror like noticed that they like i mean they knew they lived in a murder house but like there is you can kind of trace these few things where it became clear to them that they can make a lot of money if they were like, hey, house still haunted. And a ton of people made a lot of money off of it. And I guess it's kind of a victimless crime, but it's the whole thing. I feel like people still talk about it like it actually happened. And I just feel like it did.

I believe in ghosts and I don't think it happened god damn it isn't aren't they on the record as saying or like what the real estate agent who sold the house is on the record as saying that they got really drunk with the warrens and like they made it up over wine like as a way to boost the property value yes like it was literally a real estate scam that this family was like oh we can like you know make a shitload of money and get a house wherever the hell we want where no one's been murdered if we right kind of play ball here and like yeah there's there's a lot written about it it's so and then also like the the guy who wrote the book kind of had a bunch of ulterior financial motives to writing it and i don't know

there are some famous haunted house stories that i'm like yeah 100 ghosts are real and you are haunted amityville horror overrated as we head into scary story season to tell in the dark I'm done with the Amityville horror I'm not spreading the gospel of it anymore not that I was before great I was never I was never interested in it I just

don't I hate scary season so you hate scary season wow life's too scary you know what i mean yeah life is yeah i hate i hate getting you know why i think because i was so like as i was really sensitive to like loud sounds and shit as a kid that like jump scare type movies really fucked me up because it was like the equivalent of like what loud noises were to me were just like sudden interruptions that were like very jarring for me yeah and i

just cry in the theater so you know it's not a good it's not a good experience for anyone it's a bad vibe like it's i don't know i'm working on a story right now about like graves that appear in movies and i've been thinking about like iconic great i don't know it's like i did you ever see the ring the like yeah like that did you ever see the ring the like yeah like that great the the like grave well that that girl i was i think that i literally like lost weeks of my young life worrying that she was coming for me and that i had seven days to live it's not a good way to live your life but it's kind of fun and it's also like a strange place to be in where like a movie can be so scary that like even when you can fully like reason and rationalize that this is not real that you're like oh i don't know though man like i don't know if i'm gonna answer that phone or like

this room's too dark and i might see someone's melted face right like if you're thinking about it at 3 p.m yeah uh but yeah amityville horror trash i feel like watching a jump scare horror movie in a crowded theater can be a fun like communal experience because you're like jumping into each other's arms and i'm like i'm sorry sir i know we just met yeah i've literally done that before yeah and then just turn it after being scared. Like turn to the person next to you. Oh, you know what it could be though too? And I think I've talked about this before.

It could have been this time my dad took me to go see the movie Seven with my other friend. How old were you? I don't know when that shit came out. I was 96 or something. I was 12, 13. I was like, you were... Okay. It's LA.

I grew up in a house where like my parents were like you know fuck all the puritanical shit well they're just more like kind of like my mom was a film is a film critic so there's yeah like there's always movies on and she was just like this shit isn't gonna screw you up like us like mistreating you is probably gonna screw you up so you know like rock on and go out seven and the scene in the that one synth sloth where the guy's just like tied to the bed like left to like disintegrate when that guy like you know he comes back to life my dad fucking jumped up out of his seat and like almost threw shit in there like and i was just mortified i was I can't. I'm not doing this shit in public anymore. I love that. The other one that really stuck with me was Final Destination 3, the tanning booth scene.

That was like, I'm never going to recover. Like, that's something that I still have not fully recovered from. Yeah, the ring and the tanning booth scene from Final Destination 3 is like, that should have been illegal. Nightmare fuel. What is something you think is underrated, Jamie? Oh, okay. What I think is underrated, because it's going on and even I didn't know about it, is the Vienna Beef Hot Dog Stand Challenge, which is going on until October 17th. It is a publicity scheme.

However, the Vienna Beef Hot Dog Stand Challenge is a Chicago-based competition. I'll just read from the website because I'm thrilled about it. It's time to find the biggest hot dog fan in all of Chicagoland. The rules are simple. Eat at as many participating hot dog stands as you can

for a chance at hot dog greatness. Many will enter, many will take home prizes, but only one will be crowned the Vienna Beef Top Dog. So they're just encouraging people to take their life in their own hands and eat at as many Chicago hot dog stands as they can. It started back at the end of August, can from it started it back at the end of august and it goes through october and right now i hear on the if you check the leaderboard well i'll check the leaderboard stephanie e has visited 331 hot dogs and gone to that many stands in the pursuit of being top dog. So I'm very invested in this. And I think it's underrated because I don't know how like the whole country isn't aware of and deeply invested in the fact that this is going on.

I still have my money on Abe Froman, the sausage king of Chicago. Hey, man, don't sleep on Karen B. and Rose L. who are in a tight race for second place right now. It's true. I'm surprised. I mean, it's like I want to find who these people are. I don't know if I would enter this contest under my own name either. So it's just like I wonder what's going on.

But I'm so thrilled about it. Vienna Beef also does a program that I'm currently signed up for called Hot Dog University. Okay, I've silenced the chat. Is that competing with Santa University? Are we about to get a different IP now? We're like, Santa University is old. It's all about Hot Dog University. No, it's like a six-hour long Zoom call where they just talk to you about hot dogs.

I don't know what's going to happen, but they sure do charge too much money for you to do it. But I'm very invested in the hot dog stand challenge. I've had the tab open for four days now. Just checking in. I mean, Stephanie is. Stephanie's killing it with 331 stands visited. But also, I feel like if Stephanie has one or two bad days, it would be so easy for Karen B or Rose L to take the lead.

Right. I wonder now if this is like... Because you don't have to eat them, right? It's just you merely scan the QR code. You just have to check in. See, just you merely scan the qr code check in see that's where i'm a little bit i'm like who's eating though who's right who's respecting this because i get if you have time you can just be like fuck it i hit like 40 hot dog stands a day i'm gonna get that prize but the top the prizes are pretty good stephanie karen rose and amanda

fucking unfuck withable at the moment i also like how the names are listed with just the last name the last name initial like it's alcoholics anonymous like i do yeah we don't want to like your real name really no yeah there's and the prizes are pretty good like top okay top dog that's just first place and then you get a ton of chicago sports tickets you get to tour the vienna beef factory tour which is huge because they would not let me do that and you get a trophy yeah they're being very secretive over there okay and then i'm kind of more interested in the second third and fourth place hot dog royalty, you get a custom mini hot dog cart and a

catered hot dog party for up to 40 people. Wow. I was like, that kind of sounds better. That sounds awesome. Well, Miles just disappeared from the chat. There's a mile-shaped hole in the wall behind him. On my way to snatch up

those dogs. This is what we need. Zyte Gang, we got to create one account and all y'all who live in the area, we just crowdsource it and then we deliver. I'm sorry to Karen, Elle, and Rose, and Amanda, but Zamboni Elle is about to take, I think, the lead.

If we could just crowdsource this. I'm so... It feels nice to root for something again. It's nice to be engaged in a sport. It feels like back when people would all watch the same...

It feels like when people would watch the same reality show. It's a national event. It's something to be excited about. Survivor Season 1, you know? Right, right. Did I get naked? That one guy got naked. Is it true, Jamie, that you consume all hot dogs Kobayashi style and like break them in half, shove them down, and then dip the bun in water?

Is that true? There is. No, Kobayashi style broke Kobayashi, so I can't engage with it. It's like Kobayashi so I can't engage with it. Kobayashi broke himself. And I think that Joseph Chestnut is headed down the same road but it's not my business.

He's beginning to look mortal. I know. And if you look at whatever, I hope that Joseph Chestnut is doing well and getting rest. But I was worried about him this year. All right.

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Like forever? Come on, folks. This is a business now. In 2020, the US health insurance companies, they said, we're going to cover 100% of the cost because it's a pandemic. So we'll treat you. There's no need to pay for co-pays or deductibles or any of that. People are still making those now more than ever commercials. So we are all, we are with you. Now more than ever for about 60 days. Or we reach our cap of 3 million, whichever comes first. It's like now, and I can't emphasize enough, now.

Literally right now. We are with you tomorrow. Who knows? Honestly, we have to see what the what the revenue reports look like. But yeah, they began to change their minds this year. And, you know, depending on where you lived in the country, some started as early as January of this year, leading up to, you know, in the last few months. up to, you know, in the last few months, but it's becoming a trend. Like when you look at like the top two insurance providers in certain States, many of them are starting to roll back their coverage or what fees they were going to waive. So now they're reinstating those deductibles,

those copays for COVID treatment. And mind you, they still managed to stay profitable during 2020. This isn't a, this isn't like they were any, there's no real business argument, I guess, because if you say like they went from like 4.8 billion to 4.6 billion in revenue, maybe that is the tough part. But when you sort of look at what COVID is right now, as we understand it, it's not just an illness that if it's bad enough enough you take a hospital stay and then it's done there are many people who are suffering even if they don't go to hospital just long-haul covid where treatment can stretch for fucking months or indefinitely in some people's cases just to like have some semblance of being able to breathe easier deal with their chronic fatigue

and in these cases where these people like there was a story in this Washington Post article, this woman who got her J&J shot, she got COVID 11 days later and she was on a plan that wasn't covering COVID anymore. She was looking at easily $20,000 in expenses when you add up the hospital stay and like post hospital care that was necessary. and like post-hospital care that was necessary. So this has just caused just a ton of chaos. And on top of it, there's not even like a uniformity to how insurance companies are looking at certain plans. They say like in this article from the Washington Post, quote, the lack of uniformity in COVID insurance practices across the country this year is striking in some places

because of differences in health plan policies, COVID patients in the same hospitals and in the same ICU units could be facing completely different financial burdens. And guess what? This is all because of a lack of a federal mandate to waive these charges like permanently before they're just sort of doing it out of the goodness of their heart. But because it's not being you know mandated by the federal government of course they're going right back to old school predatory price gougy ways right it's with yeah it's just another way to make america based on like your survival in america based on how much money you have essentially yeah and it's so i mean it's like because there was i mean with good reason it was so heavily publicized when things were fully covered and of course now that they're not fully covered people are probably just finding out in real time because the last you heard from a public facing standpoint is like hey this is it's a

pandemic like we're all in this together and now that it's a year and a half out and actually capitalism's a motherfucker and we're not all in this together it's i just i mean it's like health care information is so inaccessible as it is but for like that huge rollout to have happened at the beginning and then crickets for when the policies were changed is just so ghoulish. Yeah. And you look at like the spokesperson for like, you know, they're the industry's like lobbying arm. It's called America's Health Insurance Plans. They said, quote, After a year and a half, it's pretty clear that COVID is here to stay. That is that this is a

continuing health condition when it comes to treatment we're looking at it like we would treat any other health condition see i just said nice words without saying we're in a fucking pandemic and most fucking places don't and employers don't give a fuck if you get sick or anything so i don't know like if if you get sick or anything. So I don't know if people have legal recourse to sue their employer or the state or being like, well, because of your lack of safety guidelines, I was put in a high risk situation. And now I'm stuck with a bill for a communicable disease because I'm also at the will of a fucking private health insurance company. And these changes

affect uh like private you know like if you're getting it from your employer type plans like medicare if you have no insurance at all like there are other ways for it to be paid so the people who are really getting this like shock of like looking like what the fuck's going on are people who are getting their uh insurance to an employer yeah yeah. Yeah. There's a, so there's this book that came out in 2018 called bullshit jobs, a theory that made the case that like most of the jobs in the U S economy are bullshit. Like they don't contribute anything to society. And in fact, they do harm. A lot of times they exist to give a manager someone to manage. It really resonated with me. Having spent almost 20 years in the U.S. economy, I can say that I've been around these constantly and that they are the norm rather than the

exception. But one of the examples that they use of this logic in action is when Obama justified keeping private insurance companies around and not going with a fully public single-payer health care system because harder for people to get health care. Those jobs should go away and they should be replaced with a system that is designed to get people in need help, the help that they're looking for. increasingly kind of an interesting way to look at like you know i feel like most people are recognizing that we're coming to the end of one era and like need to shift into something else that's going to enable us to deal with the species like you know extinction level event that we're all headed towards and like there are just all these jobs that are essentially there just to justify themselves because like america needs jobs because of our like puritan capitalistic like work ethic like that this economist uh john maynard keys predicted that by now we would have a 15-hour work week because of like how automated everything was going to be how like fast technology was increasing and improving and the the argument in the book which makes sense to me is that like we're there it's just that we

didn't get rid of the work week because we're like addicted to the idea that work is the thing that makes you like gives you work or gives you value as a human being right right which which i don't even i don't even think is inherent to that. It's just like there's never been a huge movement to discourage you from thinking that way where it's like, I just, I don't know. I don't know if any of us could remember a time where that wasn't sort of how you were conditioned to shape the image of yourself in relation to what you do and who you are and how hard you work. Yeah. You're grinding all day. if that's your life. Hustle culture. Team no sleep. But yeah, that whole point of like, you know, you keep people toiling.

They can't organize and to actually bring about change because the toil and the grind of working constantly keeps people in place. And then, you know, the way things are set up, you just are labor to exploit for other people. And I'm sure that's a coincidence. Right. Because you saw like the light version that occurred with the lockdown. And look what fucking happened. They're like, get these people back to work. I don't give a fuck if kids are dying in schools like these people are fucking not working. They're like, get these people back to work. I don't give a fuck if kids are dying in schools. Like these people are fucking not working. They're like starting to figure shit out like that. This is bullshit that they're being exploited, that they don't need to live like this.

No, like they've, this is too much. This has been too much of a pause, especially at least in this country where you can see that, like that, that version of a world where people have more free time is like, no, no, no. Or even the time to actually think about their own life outcomes that they want. Yeah. Yeah, it threatens that system of toiling. And so many people are like, my job is meaningless or my job sucks. They don't like their job. is meaningless or my job sucks. Like they don't like their job. They feel like if they disappeared tomorrow, like it wouldn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. And like,

we've just so many of the story, like this resonated with so many of this with me based on so many of the stories we've covered, like militarized police patrolling and functionally making problems in communities where they treat people like enemy combatants, showing up in a situation that could be solved by bringing someone to a hospital and turning it into a shooting that requires millions of dollars in investigations and justifications and the FBI's investigation following 9-11, which as we talked about last week, we're like fully focused on fabricating reasons to continue an investigation. I've like in the tech industry, I've worked at companies that were, you know, primarily designed to make people who are using a different service,

have a worse experience, basically like make the internet less efficient. Like that wasn't what my job was, but that was the kind of mission that got the most funding. And like basically while people, while they were like having a worse experience, they were taking a box that made the tech company money. And that was the part of the business that received the vast majority of the funding because you could create like a big work infrastructure around that. And you could like give these managers lots of people to manage. And yeah, it's just because problems mean more dollars. Right.

Because if you solve shit, then it's less money. Like, you know, there's still money that can be made. But if you really had a philosophy, like a philosophy as a company to be like, yeah, if you buy our stuff, like you can fix it. And it's like really good. And it'll be working again. And like, great, cool, cool. Glad you're able to fix. Yeah, we'll send you a replacement part. It's really easy to do. Go on with your life. It's great. Or even the, you know, with healthcare, like we can't actually like we have to have these systems that are like in such chaos because then it just it creates more of a mess things to address more money being spent

when really everyone just wants like like the outcome and then people just say that's a utopia that's impossible right well that's just it's just antithetical the money is there it's not like the money isn't there and couldn't be rerouted if there was. Yeah. And again, every argument is, well, so what? I'm going to make less money. That's what every fucking thing boils down to. When you look at Democrats who are saying we're not going to vote for lower prescription drugs, they say it'll they have no fucking real like articulated reason for why they would vote against renegotiating prescription drug prices aside from some industry created phrase it's like it'll stymie private sector innovation uh innovation so which means less money yeah he gives so he gives this example of a friend of his who was like a poet and like fronted an indie rock band.

And like he hadn't, he'd fallen out of touch with him and he got back in touch. And like he had a pretty successful career, but eventually like he was like, but I had to grow up and go to law school. And now he's a corporate lawyer working in a prominent New York firm. He was like the first to admit that his job was utterly meaningless,

contributed nothing to the world, and in his own estimation, should not really exist, which talked to literally any corporate lawyer, almost any. I've rarely talked to a corporate lawyer who's not like, yeah, this sucks and I hate what I do. But he points out that the reason... You have to ask the question, what does it say about our society that it generates an extremely limited demand for talented poet musicians, but an apparently infinite demand for specialists in corporate law? controls most of the disposable wealth, which is what we call the market, that is going to reflect what they think is useful or important and not what anybody else does. And so we've been in this system where what is valuable, what is practical has been dictated by the top 1%. the top 1%. And that is above all needs to change

as things just get more and more. Like we're not living in a normal society anymore and it's going to get more and more volatile like as we go forward. So yeah. All right. That'll be sick. All right.

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Most of the time. And we're back. And let's talk briefly. So Fox doesn't really know what to do with itself these days. And so. Oh, no. Yeah. They had kind of a slow day a couple of days ago.

We're just going to play you some some clips from what was going on. Yeah. They just think, oh, my God, this all because it was a story because Joe Biden is taking a long weekend in like Delaware with like his wife and he was riding a bicycle. So this is what Fox News is interpretation of that is being the leader of the free world has to be the most demanding job in the whole world. And he simply does not have the mental or physical stamina to do this job. And that is why his handlers and his wife, who, by the way, increasingly look more like visiting angels, have to schedule in these senior breaks for him so he can take naps and go for bike rides because he can't concentrate on the job the way he should. I mean, just compare it to president donald trump who worked these long long hours um

and you know had impromptu hour-long uh you know pressers with the you know with with the media um president uh biden even in bob woodward woodward okay enough of that. But would, would, would, would, would, would, would, would, would, would, would, would, would, would. I mean, impromptu press conferences? You mean when he would just hijack the mic and sundown on air? Really? And also, like, describing all of that as if it was, like, necessary and productive is just so silly. It's like, I don't know. Like, I'm not a big fan of Joe Biden, but that was an MP4 of him on a bike.

Like, that was it. Right. Exactly. I'm not here to say, you know, like, I don't I'm definitely in he is too old camp. I 100 percent agree with that. He more in the sense that he has passed his prime, given the elasticity of thought required in this moment we are facing as a society or lack of society, as Jack was saying, like Joe Biden is not he's too rigid. Yeah, he's too rigid to be to arise to this occasion. And it's and I think much is is becoming more and more clear but you know do with that what you want but this just sort of idea of him saying like it's too that's why he's got to take breaks and blah blah blah it's just the same they they used to have like there were other things but now it's just like they're just describing what trump would do and be like they're

right i guess that's just sort of the football that people pass back and forth in partisan news yeah yeah it's like it's it that that was a treat that was a treat because it's like of all of the like valid points that you just made miles it's like the only thing you could do to truly profoundly undercut it is to compare him with the previous president right right that is like the worst thing you could do yeah the guy who golf like had a fucking golf club like surgically attached to his fucking hand and only watched 14 hours in the white house right oh yeah yeah and again you'll have like i'm sure on the other side you'll have like liberal news being like look how active joe biden is i mean like with his schedule well it's like, Jesus, both of you. We stand.

Yeah, that's my impression of MSNBC. They're like, we stand. We stand? Active president? I don't know if you saw that. He had one hand. He only had one hand on the handlebars. He's the other hand to wave at the camera.

That's really hard. We here at MSNBC have made a gif of it. If you want an NFT of it, you can buy right now. Oh, my God. To help moveon.org. It's also annoying. But yeah, it's like the one person you don't want to put that next to. If they were smart, don't bring up president trump don't

bring him up yeah he doesn't even like you guys anymore like what are you doing did that not make the did not make it over to the fox news viewer that he was like the like just based on his schedule was the laziest president like of time? Was that just not a thing? Probably not, right? They probably just... Well, I'm sure that they're like, well, Donald Trump was the first president to ever practice hashtag self-care.

So he's actually an icon of self-care. Has Joe Biden met with Gwyneth Paltrow yet? I don't think so so how could he know what's best for us get me pictures of that meeting just kidding i wouldn't be so i'm like whatever jeffrey katzenberg is going to la city council i'm like fucking right of course secretly though secretly secretly he's, I have so much free time since my billion dollar loser project failed. So let me just hamper with things I don't know shit about. Hey, I want to build a behemoth thing and move a bunch of, displace a bunch of poor people.

Can you help me with that? Also, this is not an official thing. Yeah, talk about someone trying to justify their continued existence. Right. Anyway. I mean, quibi is a fucking great example of that you know that there was a there was a lot of talent but it was poured into some managerial class assholes terrible idea right and also like you're saying the one percent's version of what they think the market is which is jeffrey katzenberg thinking you

know what i'd watch and you're like i don't give a fuck what if youtube videos cost money you're like uh what i'm just i'm just salty because i worked on a quibi show i made like 12 and then it never came out so oh wow you know not even did it complete or is it part of the roku resurrection it? I don't even know if it completed. It was animated, so I'm assuming no. Oh, wow. Because Roku gave Quibi a second home. I loved turning on my little Roku and being like,

oh, that's where it all went. Wow. Truly out with a whimper. Roku TV. But the numbers on roku are incredible yeah all right uh let's talk about so we've joked before about you know the idea of just putting a little vaccine in someone's morning oatmeal you know trick tricking some of the uh the people who get all their news uh do their own research on Facebook, friend groups. Like maybe we put the vaccine in their food and they don't notice and then we're good.

They get to still think they're sticking it to us. Or people who are like, oh, I hate needles. That's why I'm going to put myself at risk because I just don't like needles. And I don't like needles more than I don't like death. So what are you going to do? Apparently, scientists are already thinking like this because their researchers at UC Riverside working with a few different universities, they've been tinkering with a way to get vaccines into edible plants like spinach and lettuce. So you could get a vac salad. edible plants like spinach and lettuce. So you could get a vac salad. Okay. Because one of the things they're saying is like the vaccine as it is now, it's really hard to store. Like it has to be

at a very cold temperature and things like that. They're looking at, they're like, they're just like, okay, we have a three-step approach to figuring out what we're going to do. First, try and deliver DNA containing the mRNA vaccines into plant cells where they can replicate. Next, they say they want to show that plants can actually produce enough of this mRNA to replace a traditional injection. And then they'll then they'll begin tinkering with like what the dosage is essentially from there. But one of the people who's like leading this research is saying that it's like, you know, there is a way to make this work. And they say the key to making these vaccines are the chloroplasts. If you remember from class.

I went to seventh grade. Yeah. So remind me. I forget. This is where the chloroplasts are where the sunlight is converted into energy. Yes. And so they say, as he explains he explains they're tiny solar powered factories that produce sugar and other molecules which allow the plant to grow they're also an untapped source

for making desirable molecules and quote previous studies have shown that it's possible for chloroplasts to express genes that are not a natural part of the plant and so his this this team is trying to do that by like sending this genetic material into the like protective casing of the plant cells and they're like boom boom boom they've seen it like with other certain things so that's why they're optimistic about how this could work they're like fun like you could have fields of this shit growing potentially or grow it at your own house i don't i mean it's still very early but when i look at i'm like damn okay yeah it's i get but when I look at it, I'm like, damn. Okay. Yeah. Science. But I also am curious, like someone who's like-

That's big lettuce at work. Yeah, right? Speaking of big lettuce. They're coming for big pharma now. Why can't we put it in a hot dog? What about- Pills? There's chloroplasts in hot dogs.

Big pharma? Meet big farm. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. There it is. So, you know, I think, but there's also a part of me that's like, I wonder if a person who hates needles in their adult age is also like a fan of spinach. Right.

Oh, yeah. Let's get some charts done for that. I'm not eating. Fuck. Fuck. What are you going to do then? Yeah. wellness community that tends like the portion of the wellness community that

rejects vaccines I think also probably rejects genetically modified organisms yeah GMO we gotta get big hot dog on this yeah put him in the hot dog chloroplasts

yeah so they teach you at hot dog university day one yeah yeah here's the parts of the hot dog the cytoplasm the nucleus the chloroplasts and the yum yum zone if you plant uh if you if you dig a hole you put a hot dog in the hole you water it every single day you don't know what would happen anything could happen That's called magic. So, yeah, I don't know. We'll look at this closely, but I'm wondering if that's sort of the future.

Because people have made ice cream with vegetables in it. There's all this sort of tinkering with technology to try and be like, here, we know you don't like eating healthy, so here's a version of eating like shit that's actually good for you. Try that. The Flintstone gummies of vaccines. Yeah. Ice cream, vegetables I feel like also are not going to appeal to

ice cream made of veggies. We're not going to get the red states. They don't know. Oh, okay. Just put it in a milkshake, buddy. Why don't you drink it up? That will tell you. Just eat a bunch of kale, you lib. All right.

Let's check in with Alberta. They had a... The province? The province. Yes, indeed. Canadian province. He said that's something we do all the time. Yeah.

Well, you know, at the beginning of the summer, Alberta boldly proclaimed that they were going to be at the forefront of, you know, fighting COVID with their unprecedented pretend it doesn't exist policy. Just back to normal. They printed a bunch of merch with the phrase best summer ever on it. And that's no summer of wieners. Yeah, no, it does sound's no summer of wieners yeah no it does sound similar to summer of wieners like something that a horny high school grad in a teen sex comedy would say that they were gonna do yeah but yeah it became the official slogan for alberta's plan they actually sold merch with it one of the premier's aides tweeted the pandemic is ending accept it oh no and when they announced their plans to roll back most public health measures

was accompanied by a banner reading open for summer uh just like fucking jaws like with the billboard of like yeah come on in everything's good so that they did this starting on july 1st with just over 70 of the eligible population vaccinated which is a lot like for i i think america would love to have 70 of the eligible yeah that's pornographic thing here but it's still like not quite at the level that people say gets you herd immunity. And which is unfortunate because Alberta decided to abandon contact tracing and asymptomatic testing of people who came into close contact with COVID cases. they announced people who actually tested positive for COVID did not need to quarantine. So they were just like, it's a multi-pronged, it's a multi-tiered rollout. And basically, the idea was to make COVID-19 protocols similar to those of the flu and other communicable diseases.

That old chestnut that we heard so much at the beginning of the pandemic. And then in Alberta, we heard it like very recently. And Alberta's health minister admitted no other jurisdiction in Canada or elsewhere in the Western world has similarly discarded isolation or testing measures, but claimed that Alberta was leading the way. And yeah, so unpredictably. It's such a long way of saying you just don't give a shit and don't want to deal with it. It's like we're leading the way and not doing anything. You're like, well. Right.

Right. Well, they did print those hats up that said best summer ever. So yeah. This is under conservative leadership, I'm assuming. Yes. Conservative leadership. They, conservative leadership. They love that one, that whole Sweden example that they don't check up on. And you're like, it was bad.

It was very bad for them. So, yeah, you're never going to guess what happened next. With a huge chunk of the population still unvaccinated, cases and hospitalizations went up. Down. Oh. Yeah, I know. I didn't. population still unvaccinated cases and hospitalizations went up down oh yeah i know i didn't i was really thrown for a loop wow i said i don't like jump scares jack as hospitalizations and deaths were spiking uh the alberta united conservative party was still selling best summer ever baseball caps on their website.

And so the premier, the conservative premier, decided to jump into action and go on vacation, what he described as a well-deserved vacation. He just disappeared. Oh, my God. Disappeared, didn't tell anyone where he was going, and people still don't know where he went to this day well like where the trip was to yeah he just went away and was like i'm on vacation it's well deserved because i was leading uh the western world in not doing anything on covid while he

was on vacation the surge in cases pushed the health care system to the verge of collapse children's hospitals had to delay the vast majority of their surgeries as a result. Healthcare workers are calling on him to get help from the military and the Red Cross. And just last week, he apologized for the fact that this was not the best summer ever. He said, I know that we all hoped this summer that we could put COVID behind us once and for all.

That was certainly my hope. And I said that very clearly. It is now clear that we were wrong. And for that, I apologize. Well, that's something you don't see in this country. A conservative apologizing for being wrong. Conservative people

apologizing for their horrible policies and shitty merch like wow it's really yeah this does i feel like so many things point to our like hell world style everywhere you know like that yeah you can be in the midst of a pandemic and you have these people who because so many people are experiencing different realities because of their social status or social class that to them, they're like, this is great. We're going to we're going to make these hats, even though other people's lives could be an absolute hell. But if the messaging is strong enough around this, maybe we can will that into people's minds, even though all of the data in front of them suggests otherwise. Right. Right. Yeah.

I mean, and like to any of the listeners who live in alberta what a fucking nightmare like that's such a we're so sorry off like that's such an awful thing to have that's kind of what we went through too right but it's i mean i guess that there was an apology at the end but like that but also like what a fucking slap in the face to be like oh uh i guess you know swing and a miss and it's like well there's there's lives connected to the swing and the miss well i mean i think the biggest the biggest loser here was all these hats we didn't sell right oh i'm sorry warehouse full of best summer ever hats yeah i'm sorry i need to be clear i was saying that i was wrong about how these hats would

just be flying off the shelves and they didn't and for that i apologize yeah think about the like huge think tanks that came up with this strategy and like the thousands of jobs that were dedicated to coming up with this strategy, presumably. Hope everyone's sleeping well. Yeah. They're probably not. We're in late capitalism. We need to figure out what's next because this is not working.

You look at the UK, that's why most of us like 8 out of 10 younger people are like, yeah, it's socialism now. Like socialism yesterday. Quickly, quickly yesterday quickly quickly quickly quickly quickly because it's all everything you look around and you're living in a world where it's like here's the deal here are the rules of this earth can you afford to stay alive no then you die and go fuck yourself is that a question you don't want to ever have to ask anybody okay let's find a new way oh wait there already is a new way we just have to implement it yeah it's called less greed from these fucking people like who we've just had this financial system

gain so much momentum it's like what unless you're talking about massive upheaval like what are these to the to the one percent of earners go yeah you know what man here's here's 60 percent of what i what i have back to y'all yeah 50 10 rather than being like hey man a million bucks sounds like a lot to you right it's like fucking a fraction of like a fraction of my wealth, you idiots. They did call a state of emergency and introduced a vaccine passport, which was just a downloadable PDF that is mind-bogglingly easy to edit, like in your phone. Cool.

In your phone. All right. Sick. That's kind of the story. Good checking with Alberta. Yeah. Jamie, But that's kind of the story of. Good checking with Alberta. Yeah. Jamie, as always, such a pleasure having you. Yeah. Where can people find you and follow you?

You can find me on Instagram and Twitter for now. Twitter, Jamie Loftus Help. Instagram, Jamie Christ Superstar. You, Maggie May Fish and I are doing a five five hour stream this saturday to benefit knock la and we'll be talking to a bunch of journalists and comedians about the why the olympics should not exist we're doing we're like co-hosting it with no olympics la and i am writing on a new show called teenage euthanasia on adult swim. And a few of my episodes are airing this Sunday.

So you can watch that. Nice. Is there a tweet or some work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh, uh, Brody Gupta released a, a banger of a bit this morning. I think Brody is so funny.

Um, so she she she's been she tweeted quote what is grief but love persevering just a sneak peek of a line i am writing in my script just to see if she could trigger fans of wandavision because that is a line from like the last episode of wandavision and there's being like, so is no one going to point out that this exact line was already on WandaVision? She just keeps tweeting people and saying, no, this is a line from my film. And then she says, let's just say dot, dot, dot. My vision never wanders. I can't stop laughing at it. She's the funniest person in the world. I think she's writing at the simpsons right now oh man but that's at broti gupta b-r-o-t-i-g-u-p-t-a

it reminds me of who is the the journalist in boston who is just triggering gun owners by like by saying all those wrong gun facts on Twitter and being like you in fact do not know what an AR-15 is because it's 15 guns I think you said you had worked or knew of this person but anyway I love that form of like it might have been Chris yeah aggressively just being like no you wrong. And just ramping that volume up on them. I, yeah. I feel like it's not a perfect circle, obviously. But it is, you know, fans of Marvel properties and fans of guns are both very sensitive towards certain things. It was like a heavily memed line from that show too.

Like that's funny. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm pretty sure that that's a line from Brody's script. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey and also the other show for 20 Day Fiance with Sophie

Alexandra. Just talking about 90 Day Fiance. a couple tweets that i am liking first one is from at jay jordan tweeting tony braxton really had me ready to leave my husband in elementary school because yeah those lyrics were very powerful the other one is from at bray underscore early day it's a screenshot of a tweet with our conversation with someone called Mom. And they're asking, what does the IA mean? L.G.B.T.Q.I.A. Including animals.

And the person just put ellipsis mother. And another one from at Vanessa Fudges, who are tweeting, the purpose of Twitter is to gain enough followers that you can post something like eating a burger and have 40 people reply saying, hell yeah. Hell yeah, dog. That's actually what I do all day on Twitter.

Just famous people and just agree with them on what they're doing. Having a soda. Oh, hell yeah, dude. Oh, just a little sody. Ellie Kremendahl. I'm sure I'm mispronouncing that, but she tweeted,

can't stop thinking of that icebreaker where I had to ask this girl what she loved about her boyfriend. And she said, we both love buffalo wings. And that just reminded me of this like a marriage wedding, like pre-training thing that my wife and i did in the

like middle of nowhere in missouri where like they asked you like to tell the story of how you met like what you like about each other and we like had to go first there are like 40 couples and we like talked about how like we met in college and like we stayed up all night talking about like, you know, some book we were both reading and like, and then everybody after us was like, we, uh, yeah, a lot of crying for me and she was embarrassed. But then like every couple after us, their like story involved like going hunting together. How like the fact that they both hunted was like the thing that really happened together.

Something about taking a life with your loved one really brings you together. Really love that she could shoot a buck, you know. I felt really shitty. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page

and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy today this is a track from an artist called throwing snow and they're like a electronic producer kind of came out of the dubstep era but kind of doing all kinds of interesting stuff now this track is called halos and i just really liked it because it reminded me of like a very modern well-produced version of the techno viking song i don't know if you remember techno viking from the early days of internet video where that guy like shoves a dude bullying someone at an outdoor rave and he looks like a straight up viking and then like takes his water and drinks it and then just like starts like raving so hard walking down the street

if you don't know techno viking oh please look techno Viking. But this for the techno Viking fans, this had a very similar beat and it evoked techno Viking for me. So I hope it does the same for you. It's halos by throwing snow. All right. Well, the daily is like guys, the production of I heart radio for more podcasts from my heart radio,

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