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Episode Date: October 23, 2025

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Some people go to Disney to experience what it's like to live in a walkable city. And I think like just going to downtown Disney and waiting for the parade to happen is like what they're just living like people used to live. Yeah, they're just like what that must have been cool to just like sit around. Yeah. It's like, do you have a annual pass? Is that like, no, no, I paid $200. to do this. I'm here for the community. Yeah. I'm here to be for the

community that's completely lacking elsewhere. They should have like an old timey library and shit. They do. It's the Beast's Library. The library? There's a beast well. I think you just closed it down this year, but yeah, they have the Beast's Library, which was literally a library. Not really

with books, but with like games and stuff you could do. I remember that. And the kids are in there and they're like, ew. Words on pages? What the fuck is this? Also, shouldn't it be Bell's library. I know, right?

Yeah, but they're just like, but the library actually passed to him once they got married. It belongs to the Beast now. She's not allowed to read. I mean, they don't talk about that in Beauty and the Beast, too. Yeah, she's no longer allowed to read. No. That's part of this agreement. It is kind of funny that, like, one of their biggest has Beauty of the Beast has like a whole five-minute song right at the beginning where she's essentially making fun of the type of people who, like, go to Disney.

in a lot of cases. She's like, these fucking idiots. Oh, Gaston. I haven't read the classics. Gaston has a season past for sure. Yeah, yeah. Gaston goes to Disney and gets too drunk.

And everyone's just like, oh, man. There is, when I used to work at Power 106, there was this one manager, like artist manager who really was only managing, like, kind of like lower tier artists. He would always come in.

And he was like tight with some of the people there. So he was always able to like, they would always buzz him into the station. And all he was, he was so into Disney. this, like, older, like, 55-year-old black dude. And he was like, man, I was just at Disney, man. Gathdon, the Gath-on, they got, he had this list, but he was like,

the Gath-on, man, he was doing so many push-ups, man. And this guy, he was, he, like, worked with NWA, like, back in the day. Like, he was so into Disney, like, that he would come in. We were like, oh, you got a new artist, whatever. He was like, man, you're not going to believe what I saw Disney later. Would you say if I wanted to bring that gas-stop? Don't on. Did he do pushups on the radio?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He believes in the magic. Yeah, he did. Meanwhile, that Gaston was pursued for months by that gentleman. Like, he was like, oh, I had a stalker once. Yeah, this guy, he kept talking about how he used to work with NWA. I only did 10 pushups. You could be in ice.

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into america's share consciousness and it's thursday october 23rd 2025 10th 23 good buddy it's national horror movie day it's national boston cream pie day that's my favorite kind of donut is it gonna say that i just love to fucking because the custard inside it's too custardy to me i need more i need more sugar in that feeling oh man anyway it's uh hey the swallows are departing from san juan capistrano day i didn't even know that was a full part uh it's also national tv talk show host day i think that we count is that and it's ipod day wow No. Throw back. Get out your iPod Nanos. Get out your iPod touch. Whatever you have. Get them out. You know you have them in a drawer somewhere that you've been meaning to take to the recycling electronic recycling center. Yep. But you don't. So it just sits in that drawer. I had that one wacky, super tiny iPod that didn't even have a screen to look like a stick of gum that had like a clip on it. Then you could have it like. And I only had the system of an out toxicity album on it for when I drove back from working raves. Because if I listened to it, it would keep me from falling asleep because I would just power.

we're through the whole album screaming. Very specific. Isn't that beautiful? Like, if I went to a rave at the age I am now, there's no way in hell I would sleep. But, like, when you're 18, you're like, oh, I'm tired. Now I'm like, I'm overstimulated.

Get me out of here. I feel like nothing has beat the tactile experience of, like, that circular scroll on the iPod. Like, since then, like, there hasn't been a, yeah, where it's like you're scrolling, You're rolling down your songs and it's given like the little clicks as it goes. Was that our downfall when we switched from the physical jog wheel to the touch wheel? That's when we peaked.

Yeah. Something to be said for wheels, underrated wheels. Shout out to them. Underrated owning music. Remember when you could actually like buy a CD, make it an MP3 and then own it without having a subscription service? Currently, I'm going to let you hold that for a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. situation. Every piece of music

that I love. There are albums that I bought like in the early days of the iTunes store that now they're like, bro, we've lost our license agreement for that album. So thanks for the 10 bucks back then. And I'm like, motherfucker, what? That's not how capitalism works. Uh, well, turns out. That's what they said. Late stage?

Yeah, it's late stage. It's something else now. Yeah. Late stage is all about the fine print. All right, my name is Jack O'Brien, aka, knock, knock, knocking on butthole doors. That one courtesy of David Lesser. Someone's got a knock on them. And less than in reference to our conversation yesterday about the term fart knocker and where it comes from.

Oh, yeah. I wonder. I'm imagining it's homophobic. Probably. Yeah. That's how they imagine. That's how they imagine transactional gay sex happens is that people just like go up and knock on the butt. And that's how they do it, dude.

I don't know, man. And that's what my pastor said at the sermon. I was assuming because there used to be a thing called engine knock where like the gas, like I think it was before they had really locked in the formula for gasoline. And so engines would like not like have like combustion problems that would like knock. So as well as maybe it was related to that, like somebody who holds their farts so long that they're like, they start getting an engine knock. This is a very weird humble brag of how, of combustion engine knock.

knowledge, Jack. Yeah. I know. Do not bring up the Studebaker. Do not bring up the Studebaker. There is nothing at all humble about how I feel about my knowledge of early engine troubles. The early, some people like to look up the troubles. I'm all about early engine troubles.

Early engine troubles. By the way, I was talking about how your husband has gifted me, Francesca, with the phrase, I want to fight me da. I want to fight me da. It's like his impression of Irish people. Very offensive. I don't like it. But I can't stop saying it. And now my seven-year-old keeps saying it.

So it is an impression that has invaded my household. So you can thank him. Hopefully that doesn't manifest into a sincere desire to fight his dog. I think it's just like deep in my blood. I think it's both very funny because Matt is very funny. But it's also like, oh, Brian, is that? Connecting deeply within the deep. B&A inside of every Irishman that they deeply want to fight their dog.

Have you been to the home country, the motherland? I have. Yeah. Nice. I did not get in any. They kicked it right out. You didn't fight your daw? I did not fight your daugh.

You fight your grandda? They're like, what the fuck? All right. I went to the county that I was from just expecting that I was going to immediately get beat into some. It's going to be like, yeah, jumped in. Some gang war. Welcome home. No.

You got to fight this guy. He's your cousin. He's your doc. Thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray, NK. What's on your head, on your head, Merkin, Merkin, Merkin. Mm-hmm, ooh, ooh, ooh. That part is really underrated part.

Anyway, shout out to Batty on the spectrum for that one on the Discord. Because I was talking about, yeah, what if you just rock the Merkin on top and had, like, pubic toupee for your dome piece wouldn't look good or would it help crowdfund my campaign to buy a merkin try i think who had like a murkin hairdo like did sly from sly in the family stone at some point like have a very small strip at the top i feel like oh he had a mohawk i feel like you mean like latter day latter day sly yeah yeah yeah he had like a blonde he had the blonde mohawk for sure. The, it's so disturbing to, the Merkin story is very disturbing to me.

Late-breaking Merkin news. Yeah. Miles, we are thrilled, honored, blessed to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant comedian, writer, journalist, activist. You know from places like Al Jazeera, MSNBC, America Unhinged, on Zateo, and from the podcast, The Bituation Room. It's Francesca Furentino. Hey, a.k.a. natural Merkin.

There you go. Sure. This Merkin's Natty. Damn, that Merckin looks incredible. You're not going to believe this. Yeah. I can't believe it's not Merkin. Hi, guys.

Thanks for having me. Hey. Good to see you again. Yeah. Wonderful to have you. Once again, back. Is the incredible. How are you doing?

How have you been beyond just having to reconcile? the American news, the latest American truth. I just feel like having a kid is really inconvenient to fighting fascism. And I'm just like, you, do you need to... You're ruining it, is that you say. Yes, you're ruining it. The priorities are so fucked up. They're so selfish, baby.

They're so selfish. And I'm just like, I can't always bring you to the demos. I can't bring you everywhere. I can't always stay out. Like, you know, but I'm also like, I am, it's very funny if I were like, wealthy enough to have a nanny or a babysitter every time mama wanted to go out and like fight the revolution you know there's something about that but i do think and you know coming from the activist world that every organizing entity should have child care and in fact some of my dearest friends

practiced that in new york city back in the early 2000s and were like started a child care collective for you know mostly women of color run and led um grassroots organizations and so that's very important Let's get that going again. Yeah, I just feel like there should be a bounce house at the end of the march or in the shade somewhere where you can just, again, stick the kid, you go do the rah-rah, you know, and yeah, they wear noise-canceling headphones and it's all good. Yeah. Man, bounce houses are, can go thunder dome-esque, though.

That's true. Especially when I get in there, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gets ugly. All right, Francesco, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. first we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about more secret Nazis more secret Nazi tattoos in the news these motherfuckers can't stop having secret Nazi pasts who are like running for office and like actively involved in being like I want to represent lots of people so we'll talk about that we'll talk about the results continue to roll in from ice loosening their training on how, like, what you need to do to get out there and start harming people and kidnapping people. And yeah, we're seeing consequences. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about a story

that is part of a trend that I want to, we're not going to get to the bottom of it today, but I do, I do have questions. We'll love to listen, love to hear from our listeners about if they have any experience in this. But another coroner was caught hoarding corpses. And yet again, like this is the thing that happens every once in a while. And I'm just curious, why does this keep happening? Is it, are, is it just like emails backing up? You know what I mean? Like, it's just like too much work.

And they're just like, I guess we could just push that one back to the back of the pile. So, well, we'll talk about all of that, plenty more. But first, Francesca, we do like to ask. guess what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are this is so embarrassing i i'm a big cardi b fan uh i have tickets to her first show back after giving birth in february so we'll see how that goes yeah i like the new album a lot i think it's great i didn't love it the first listen through but the second listen i was like this is amazing still very good Anyway, I've been watching a lot of Cardi B interviews, and she was on one interview with Angie Martinez, and I was just looking at her watch.

And I was like, damn, that's a nice watch. And I was, like, trying to zoom in, and I couldn't find, you know, like, what is this watch, you know? So I was, like, really into the watch. It was, like, big, chunky and white. And I realized. Oh, I know what that is. Yeah. I see it.

Yes. I finally found it and it is a $2.5 million watch that some boy, some guy's name, some boy's name. It's a Richard Millie. Whatever. Yeah. What's that? A Richard Millie. Oh, okay. Michelle.

You have a million dollar watch. Now, of course, this takes my love of her down because I'm like, nobody needs a two and a half million dollar watch. You know, blah, blah. I'm, you know, but I did. Got your attention, didn't it? Got your attention. I did search chunky white watch and realized that, you know, for the rubs out there who just want a watch that looks like a nice watch.

Francesca's pointing to a chunky white watch on her own wrist. There's a lot of dupes out there for the dupes here. So I'm a total dupe and I like, I like it. It's white, it's light, and it's guess. Let me see that. Let me see that. Bring that close to, bring that close to grandmother's eyes so I can look at that. You can't focus on it, but it's like, I got the clear one. I think it's guest branch. She's not asking you to guess. Oh, my bad. Oh, yeah. Let me see.

Bring it close. I was like, yeah, any Richard Mill. Yeah, okay. That was a joke. If anybody laughed at that joke, that was a joke from the Brady Bunch movie that I just stole there. So, oh, wow. Where she's like, what brand of jeans are those? And she says, guess. And she goes, okay, Lee, Levi. No, it is. I haven't bought something from Guess, I think, since I was, like 17. So this is very like, I like the watch. It's fine. It's cute.

It is definitely a like I saw Cardi B on an interview and I don't have $2.5 million. It's funny. I never clocked Cardi B to be one of your style icons because you don't dress like Cardi B at all. But your energy on the. I need some ribs removed first. And putting... I don't know where some, I guess, inner thigh weight into my ass.

The point is, no. You put the ribs in your ass. You put the ribs in your butt and just sort of spank. Hey, Doc, throw the ribs back there. Hey, you want to be able to knock on that thing, you know? No, not my style icon, but I was needing a new watch and I just, you know, so I was like, chunky watch. And I feel like Google or Duck, Duck, Go, which I use, knew that I was looking for a very, a dupe.

Yeah, yeah. Hey, dot, dot, dot, go. I mean, you can find something chunky. So many people do. You could have found one that is pretty much like a just a direct ripoff of that. Oh, yeah. If you really wanted to have that, you know what I mean? I could, I know all.

But that would have been like, what, like 500,000 or something? Like people were like. No. You get that shit on the gate for like, fucking like 80 bucks. Okay. Anyway. All right. I don't know what the Google's the gate. The H gate, okay.

This is where the Chinese websites where you get all the counterfeit merchandise. I feel like the world of reps has been underp. publicized because it is really like the very foundation of capitalism wobbles under its weight. Under replicas, yeah, of course. The most expensive pair of shoes, like the, my wife for I think our anniversary bought me these shoes that were like my grail sneakers, the Union, guaba ice, Jordan Fours, and I was wearing them, Miles was there. He can attest to this.

In Las Vegas, and a teenager walked up to me and goes nice reps. No. And then, like, laughed. So not only, like, can you fool people by getting the reps, but if you are stupid enough to spend the money on the nice thing that you covet, people are going to think they're reps anyways, so you might as well just get the fucking reps. Oh, okay. So he wasn't, like, he just clocked you as someone who didn't, wasn't able to get the rep.

I wasn't able to get the original. Yeah, he was just trying to, because reps are so pervasive. And they look, some of them are so. Some of them look really good. Yeah, yeah. And there was a sneaker convention in town. So he was like, but like the fact that there was a sneaker convention in town at the time means that he was like, he was really saying, fuck you. Because he was like, look at this rube who just bought some reps at the sneaker convention.

Wouldn't you chase him out? Like, no, they're not. They're actually real. I mean, like, to your point, it's really interesting. Just like, as somebody who loves sneakers but hates paying just, like, insane amounts of money, I'm like, yeah, I'll buy fakes because I'm not about to pay fucking $500 for a pair of sneaker. I'll pay $100 from somewhere else. Yeah. But, like, it's, it's broken the brains of like hype beast brand focused people who are like, the whole point is like, you don't want to, like, why spend for the cheap thing?

You want to spend like the $1,200 on the other thing. Like that's the whole point of it. And you're like, it actually isn't. And look how pressed you are. Totally not. Because somebody just showed up with the thing that looks like the thing that costs $2,000 or whatever. It's always. I mean, I'm not into, like when I did go to China, they did take us like part of the tour when I visited.

I can't remember if I was outside of Beijing. They took us to a place that was like, you know, number one, first of all, you ever tried to like not buy something in a like just a place that's like nothing but dupes and reps and like whatever. like fakes, knockoff shit, it's impossible. You cannot make eye contact with any vendors because they'll be like, buy my glasses, please, come here. I saw you looking. I saw you looking and you're like, oh my God, oh my God. But I will say, like, I'm not someone who's ever been into brands.

I don't, I really don't care. Like I understand. Occasionally, occasionally I'll be like, oh, like the logo, whatever, whatever. But it really is about like, no, the style is nice. It's a nice style. It's a well-designed style. Anyway, I just put it in the chat. Look at that dupe.

That's 13 bucks off the gate. Shut up. Yes. This looks exactly like what I have. There you go. You know what I mean? Yeah. Save your coins, yo.

Save your coins. Yeah, Francesca. Save your coins for the revolution. Seriously. That ain't a richard meal pool. What's something you think is underrated? Underrated is the Epstein survivors. I just feel like we keep on talking about like the Epstein files.

And don't get me wrong. They should come out. It's very important, but also all of the survivors are like, yeah. So anyway, Prince Andrew raped me multiple times. But who's in the list? Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like, we know, we need the list. We're like, yeah, anyway, Stacey Williams, former Sports Illustrated model who dated Epstein and was like, yeah, I know, he and Trump were best friends.

And Trump groped me in an elevator, like, and Epstein was watching and laughing the whole time. Like, all of the survivors have the names, have the people, can testify. to the links, especially between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. Do you think that even when the files are released, unredacted, like we will ever know the connections between Trump and Epstein, like, from the FBI? Nor will we know what Trump's own FBI in the year 2017, 2018, did when it raided Trump's, I've said this last time I was on, rated Trump's, I mean, Epstein's home, stole, you know, incriminating evidence from Epstein's

vault, Epstein's safe, we're not going to find any of that stuff. Just listen to the survivors, listen to the victims, like, oh, who were there? Yeah. Who were there? They are, they're still around. They're like, hey, I'm here. And it's like, okay, we want to list. I wonder if they're, like, part of me, it feels like if it's tactical, because it's like, why come out and say it

until it's absolutely necessary? I'm wondering, like, if the files don't get released, then the next thing is to actually have these people testify publicly. or something, because when they were on Capitol Hill with Rokana, everything that was being implied and Trump was having planes fly overhead, I was like, you think he's not worried about them? He was buzzing them with fighter jets. One of the women was that English woman who Epstein hooked him up with.

And then as the British tablet said, Trump had her installed in his Manhattan apartment. And you're like, okay, and that woman has something to say. Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah. So I'm just like, and I think they will be testifying. I think you're right, Miles, that's probably what's next. But I do feel like, even then it won't be satisfactory to like the, you know, like, but if Hillary Clinton's name isn't mentioned, it's not real. Yeah, right. And some of that base. Antigotally, I know MAGA's turning on Trump over the files. So I, and I think they know it. That's why the government is still shut down. That's why they're scared. Yeah. So, but we will see.

We will see. We will. Because we have a story about Mr. Wonderful, and he's got a really good defense of why we need to move on from the Epstein Files that we're going to talk about later on. But first, Francesco, what is something you think is overrated? Overrated is the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas because it's not actually holding. Yeah. And Israel has violated it time and time again. You cease, we fire.

Exactly. And they've admitted to that. and it's like, okay, but Trump did it, yay, give them credit. And it's like, how fucking removed do you have to be to understand that this is not over it? And I also think, you know, again, what's setting in is this the pre-October 7th sort of ignoring of what's happening in Palestine, whether in the West Bank or in Gaza. We get to ignore that now. There was a story about a ceasefire. We digested that story.

We get to ignore it. It is right as Americans. The hostages were released, right? And I mean, really, everything is the same except for Israel's excuse to continue doing it. So why are they continuing to do it? And you see aid trucks are coming in, but it is a drop in the bucket.

And then you realize that, oh, Israel's always put Gazans on a diet. That's their words. In order to effectively slowly genocide them, to starve them, to kill them. Although, like, the New York Times doing a correction, oh, sorry, we called this person dying a face. famine. They actually had a preexisting condition. What was that? Living under an occupation.

Malnutrition was malnourishing you. Exactly. Yeah. For real. So, you know, it's, it's just, you know, it's upsetting to hear people in your life, friends, family, whomever, you know, sort of talk about the ceasefire as like, I hope it's going to hold or I hope it. It's not. It's not. Yeah. It had not already. Well, you could also just, yeah, read. For more than 24 hours. Yeah. Trump's already sent the babysitters club over with van. and Marco Rubio to try and be like, hey, like, can you, Trump's, like, really worried that you're going to, like, start this thing up again because you are starting it up again. At least they're sending a babysitters club. I mean, to be, let's be fair. Biden?

Biden did not. Biden is like, I trust him. What's in his heart. And you're like, what's in his heart is blood. Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, that's the thing about Biden v. Trump is like, Trump is a unmitigated, you know, narcissists. You know, he hates, he's a fascist.

Yeah, he hates Palestinians. He hates Muslims, but Biden's a Zionist. And like, so he's meaning he was in it to the death. Like he's got stars in his eyes. You know, he thinks somehow this is justified. Anyway, that's what I'm, that's what's overrated. Is it? We were to say that's what I'm bitching about. Yes, I did. This isn't your show. Okay. It's not, it's not my show. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Miles was just on my show. Yeah, just near hours ago. Go check it out. take that out double feature with summer lee yes all right let's take a quick break we'll come back we'll talk about all these nazi things that keep coming out we'll be right back jack nazi tings jack nazi tings nazi tings in the new podcast hell in heaven two young americans moved to the costa rican jungle to start over but one will end up dead The other tried for murder. Not once.

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stuff like that, in one hand clapping. saying, if it has a Nazi tattoo, but is running as a Democrat, who can't be Nazi? Is it still Nazi? Is it Nazi? I don't know. Probably yell Nazi. Yeah, so there's currently a heat, or I don't know how heat it is now, but there is a

contest developing for one of main Senate seats, specifically for local concerned woman, Susan Collins. A local oyster farmer and veteran named Graham Platner made waves when he, like, got into the race, because he was talking that populous shit and railing against billionaires and people were like, oh, doesn't take much. Don't take much to make wage.

That's different. That's different. The most down the middle meatball, the fact that not everybody is saying that is malpractice. Yeah, yeah. Everything's being ran by the billionaire. Look at this idea that this guy has.

Right. What? So then the establishment, the Democratic establishment got their pick in the race in the form of main governor, Janet Mills. And when she entered, Platner was pointing out. He's like, look, just so you know, her getting in the race shows,

they're scared to me because I'm an outsider and I'm going to do, like, I'm talking something completely different. I'm a boat rocker. Well, some pretty disturbing news came out in the last week when it was a real that this guy has a fucking Nazi tattoo on his chest, specifically the SS Totenkov, which is that fucking skull and crossbones thing. If you've seen it, hopefully you'll be like, that kind of looks evilish. It doesn't look like a, you know, like the one piece skull and crossbones I see in the anime or fucking a pirate flag. Platner naturally went on Pod Save America to discuss his Nazi chest art

because apparently he was like he was trying to get ahead of Opso like Opel research to be like, look, I got this, maybe I, let me just get out here. So this is this that was described. Platter first publicly admitted he had the tattoo on his chest during an appearance on Pod Save America last week after images of it had surfaced on social media.

He claimed he got the tattoo in 2007 while he was quote, very inebriated. on leave with some fellow Marines in Croatia, quote, Yeah, that's, we chose, we chose a terrifying in Croatia. Come on. Yeah, no, no, no need to look up what might have been happening in Croatia during World War II either. He said, quote, we chose a terrifying skull and crossbones off the wall because we were Marines and skulls and crossbones are pretty standard military thing.

And then we all moved on with our lives. He, again, denies holding any kind of anti-Semitic beliefs. He said, quote, I'm not a secret Nazi. actually if you read through my Reddit comments I think you're pretty much too on my chest I'm not a secret Nazi I think you can pretty much figure out where I stand on Nazism and anti-Semitism and racism in general

So why is he pointing to Reddit comments? Because his Reddit comments, people found his Reddit account and were like, what the fuck is this guy posting? Like he was posting shit like, quote, why don't black people tip? Okay. And said sexual assault victims should quote, take some responsibility for themselves

and not get so fucked up. They wind up having sex with someone they don't mean to. Or like getting a Nazi tattoo or something. This is, this is like, you know, I have a lot of thoughts on this story because I, on the one hand, I actually really do support the, you know, the economic populist message. And I think it's really important. I think Maine, it can be purple in, you know, in some places. And I think he, being an outsider is good. I think running as an independent is even better.

I know he's running for, you know, obviously as a Democrat. and I don't think Janet Mills is the worst corporate Democrat. Now, there might be stuff in her past. I got her open secrets up. I'm not seeing APEC. I'm not seeing crypto. I'd say her age is probably the bigger thing because she was in 79, I think, by the time she'd enter.

That is a huge thing. I mean, being an old-ass senator is pretty bad. You, you know, senators just kind of stay and then they sort of die and then they don't like, then there's a special election. And they don't know what they're voting for you. They do like to freeze up every once in a while. They do or fall over in the hallway. Yeah.

But, you know, or die in office. I mean, look, but Janet Mills also is someone who's like, one of the first governors who stood up to Trump, as he, like, called Maine out around, I think, trans athletes in sports. And she's sort of stepped to some of her legislators who don't agree with her in terms of allowing trans athletes to participate. Blah, blah, blah. She's not the worst person is what I'm trying to say.

Yeah, sure. But of course, anyone who's Schumer endorses is like, okay, here's the thing about Graham Platner. I don't know if I believe the Nazi tattoo was something you pick off a wall, but also so many dumb fucks in the world do that exact same thing is just pick some shit off a wall and are like, oh, this says, you know, I love anal and Chinese. Okay, you know what I mean? Like that's, I thought it meant unique challenge. Exactly. So now the here's what I will say. the last thing is, I don't know if he should be senator.

And the reason I say that is because, again, senators have an incredible, outsized, ridiculous amount of power. The Senate is the most undemocratic body in our country. And I have seen the way that Kirsten Cinema, that John Fetterman, that these characters, right, is it John? Yeah. I never call him by his first name. But like, these characters were independence.

They were outsiders. They were upstarts. and then very easily sort of became corrupted, lost their minds in different ways. And I do think, I'm not someone who believes in pecking order. But lately with the experience of outsider Senate candidates, I've been having a bit of heart palpitations around someone getting to this. Is it just like the pressure inside the office, inside the Senate is so great that it's just like you get in there and immediately it's like putting on the ring and Lord of the rings, you're just like, yeah, that is exactly

what it's like. It is, it needs to be reformed, it needs to be dismantled. So that's why you need a lifelong, like someone who's part, who this is part of their cause, like part of their identity and not something that they've recently like started hinting towards.

I think they have to be time tested and have held office before and I just feel like I'm not quite sure he's ready for the Senate and I'm being totally honest that like I would love to see an economic populace in the Senate. Yeah. We it it does seem like a pretty kind of low-hanging fruit for like anybody could do it but the the Democratic Party just refuses to allow them to I guess or produce candidates who are willing to there's like the hard part is like you had a Nazi tattoo for a really long time and your campaign

manager who resigned says that he's a he's into World War II history so is it that like I get the I totally understand fucking up and being in a completely dark place I don't think any person who has like their head on their shoulders would ever say they were a fully formed person forever and had all the right ticks I certainly didn't I came out like this

oh go ahead I came out like this thank you Beyonce but like talking about old combustion engines yeah the most boring the more boring child do you know the model T Oh, my God, here he goes.

But, like, that's the part where I'm like, how long did it take? Did you know, or was it a thing where then you, there's there one version where like, you're like, oh, shit, this is a Nazi tattoo? I don't even want to fucking show this to somebody to get it removed. Do I just keep this as my dark secret? He's now saying he's getting it covered with another tattoo because, like, removal options are kind of limited where he's at. Yeah, on some level.

That's just like what I'm kind of like, God, why do all these people have to have, have somehow be adjacent to this shit or not have this anyway this and this is like very conspiratorial thinking but that they like let people like do like get pick up steam the the democratic party like recon knows about this they let somebody pick up steam and then they're like ha ha and then they leak the fact that they have it's just like so just to get people excited about something and then be like, so that they can continually undercut the idea of economic populism and so that it seems like, man, anytime one of these economic populists pops up, they've got a dark secret in their past. I don't put it past them. The only thing about that is that it would

require quite a bit of competence on behalf of the Democratic Party that I don't know, that I've seen them possess otherwise. I mean, just generally, I mean, like they know they're going to do their research on anyone they're curious about. Of course they're. Especially if you become an op. So on some level, they probably have it. And you know, like, campaigns sit on opposition research until

when they figure out when to deploy it based on how things are going. So, I mean, it's not totally out of the realm of possibility. I, yeah. I mean, I just think that like we have to move. We definitely have to make space for people to like apologize for their past. Yeah, and fuck up. For sure. Yeah. And I think it matters that,

you know, he is a white guy. I'm not sure we'd, you know, people would be so generous if he was a woman, a person of color, like, I don't know. And yet, I'm like, if you're in Maine and want to vote for Grand Planner, hold him accountable, make sure he doesn't go the Federman route. But it's like one of those things like, we knew Federman pulled a shotgun on a black guy, you know, for no reason. There were other signs. To me, I was like, hmm? Yeah. And he's like, now, look, I was whacked out.

I'm like, bro, you're the type of person to even do that? Yeah. I have question marks. You're the type of person to not know you're getting a toten cough tattoo. Look, I get the dumb tattoo thing, but for letting it cook this many years or something, I'm a little bit like, but again, it is, it is sort of, it is deflating because you're like, this is the kind of messaging you need for candidates who are going up to unseat these establishment, Republicans or Democrats, whatever.

Like, this is the kind of messaging. It's just unfortunate that this guy didn't have. a shit together enough to like maybe get the tattoo like removed before you ran for office. So then you could be like, oh, yeah, I had that shit removed, man. That shit was, that was an L. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say going back to something that recent guest Tim Bat said about the idea of trying a system of politics where power is kind of given jury duty style at random to different people

because the people who seek power have weird shit going on with them almost as a rule. Yes. Like it's interesting because we're also seeing just like a huge epidemic of Republican operatives and politicians, you know, they just had Trump's nominee for to lead a key U.S. federal watchdog agency. Have to drop in gracia. I have to drop out because he had sent in this group chat. I got a bit of a Nazi streak. Like it's like this is. I like know what you said that people who are I don't know call me you got me guys yeah but it's people who have a fascination with the Nazi party keep showing up not really on both sides but like there is one now on the democratic side but it's like this is a party that worshipped power for power's sake so it like makes sense that people who are very ambitious and like going after power in any political sense that they can find it would like, be like 10%, 20%, 70% more likely to be like, man, the Nazi sure were interesting, huh?

Just the ability to wield power? Yeah, no, I'm just fascinated with their machinery. It's really the technology. Their clitlery. Yeah, it's the tech. Yeah, the embroider napkins that I collect. No, I do think, though, with the Ingracia, like, un-nomination, that shows progress. Look, we're like a week out of these Republican, young Republicans' text messages being leaked, the vile shit that they were saying.

And J.D. Vance is telling us that they were just kids, which they weren't. And it doesn't matter. And we shouldn't get upset about it. But this is revealing that actually internally, it did cause. Yeah. They know it looks bad. Their whole thing is plausible deniability white nationalism. So this, you know, you can't give up the game just yet, you know.

They haven't completed the fascist takeover. They're working on it. And it's like, surprise, we're Nazis. I mean, Ingrassi is not going to go away. He's going to be part of the inner circle. He's just not going to have the role that, you know, the official role. A Senate confirmed. Yeah.

It does feel like it's actually, but the Republican side is in a war between plausible deniability white nationalism and implausible deniability white nationalism where they're just like, it's so obvious. Yeah, it doesn't need, like, we just need to say that it's, that we're denying it. but it's obvious to both sides that we're actually saying go fuck yourself. Well, it's the Greg Gutfeld, you know, like, well, why don't we just be the N-word? Yeah, right. The Nazis.

Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Just own it. I mean, Trump gave that speech when he was, the Charlie Kirk thing, where he was bragging about how good he moved his head to avoid being assassinated. I think during that same speech, he also was like talking about Stephen Miller. And he was like, I, you know, I stand behind his beliefs.

Well, I can't say all of them. Yeah, I can't say it publicly. It's like he's just openly being like, this guy's a Nazi. No, he's like, you know, I love to watch him, but not too much because I don't think we all want to know what he's got to say. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I was pretty shocking stuff. He said, it's like, what? What's it's shocking Trump?

Like, what the fuck? Oh, boy. Yeah. He's got a bit of a Nazi. Anyway, that's. Let's see. That's the word, right? Yeah. All right, let's take a quick break.

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We're back. And continued fallout from ICE having to lower their standards when it comes to bringing in new agents. Yeah. We talked on yesterday's episode about how firearms training, they're like, we'll just like kind of yada yada through that one.

That Fourth Amendment training, like specifically like fucking. the most relevant parts of sending someone out there with a gun to fucking harass people. It's like, well, you should know this about the rights of people and how to use gun. So there was a fucking, another ice goon raid happening in Los Angeles where, you know, they were out chasing people merely for being brown on Tuesday. And in their frenzy of smashing into people's cars, because that's their new favorite tactic and to disappear them, because then they're like, well, they rammed us.

It's like, uh, I don't, anyway, shit went left. the fucking cops ended up shooting each other on accident. Quote, investigators believe shots were fired after an ICE agent came up to the suspect's vehicle. Stop saying suspect, first of all. And smashed a window using their service weapon, according to CNN.

The agent's weapon is believed to have discharged during an attempt to grab the suspect, striking both the suspect and the deputy marshal in the process. So he shot off of Marshall's finger and then shot this other person, this person who was presumably just brown in the elbow. They're such highly trained weapon experts that they don't remember to not grab someone with the gun hand while you're holding the gun.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, legit. Like, this is, this is going to keep happening. I mean, it has happened. It's going to keep happening. We've seen them in Chicago throw tear gas canisters on themselves, like, while they're stuck in a car in traffic. Yeah. Ew, oh, now they've got to roll the window.

That's the sight of that family running out with their child. in the car seat to get away from the tear gas? I'm like, this is, yeah, yeah. I mean, honestly, like, it's really interesting because I've only been, I've protested a lot. And in the early 2000s, they were not unleashing the tear gas on people in the way they started to in a round, you know, when Trump came into office because that, they didn't disperse occupy with tear gas, but tear gas really became a thing. I remember my first protest with tear gas, which I was like, what is this?

was, you know, I mean, the OPD, Oakland Police has like been doing that for a while, but I was like, shit, this is like blocks long that tear gas will affect you. It should be banned. Fuck tear gas. We should like ban it. It should be, you know, internationally banned, blah, blah, blah. But like, they'll keep shooting themselves with it so often that they have to be. Just like, we better stop guys. But you've seen them, they'll arrest people. They will detain people. They will disappear people. And then there's always a moment where like one dude is like grabbing his gun. You know, and you're like, but not sure to grab it, not sure whether, and it's like, that is, that is what we call no training. If you ever thought there could be less training than cops, like, you're looking at it. It's like, they're not sure whether to put out their gun or whether, whether, whether to when to hold it or whatnot. These are all like a hordes of sad dads who at home have unlocked firearms within reach of their own children. Like that's, there was one where the guy fucking dropped his gun while he was trying to apprehend someone. He's just loose on the ground and bystanders like, bro, you're gun. And he's like, oh.

They always look so like hurried and just like, it's all so haphazard and fucking. Well, when they get the missile launchers, they won't have to use their guns anymore. Well, because the warheads will be guided. Yes. Because they have those armament systems available to them. It sounds like most of the spending has been for bulletproof vests and guns and rifles, but they still have plenty more cash to spend on things they absolutely do not need. Well, Christine Nome is getting luxury jets.

Two Jets. Well, these are 25-year-old jets, and, you know, you're the Christi-Nome. You're the Christi-Nome. You've ever flown in a 25-year-old PJ? It's disgusting. Disgusting. It's fucking. Like the leather's cracking on one of the seats.

It's like, looks like a ghetto Uber. My God. Do you guys not even condition this leather? What the fuck is this? All right. There's a story out of Pueblo County, Colorado that I just want to hear. hear some theories. Maybe we can do a little bit of research.

When I brought this up, I didn't even know this. This is a thing that we've seen before, where it's a scandal erupts because a coroner, a coroner. Corridor. The reason I keep calling it Coroner. Yeah.

Numenor. Just do less. Do less with the O's. It's corner. Corner. Corner. Corner. Turning the corner. A corner has been high,

like hoarding bodies. and like not for a couple months that like this dude was had bodies that were 15 years old so this county coroner had to resign because they were discovering

this is just in August investigators found 24 decomposing bodies behind a cardboard door that's that's where it comes right so my my theory is this keeps happening because they're lazy and like the way like you'll get your inbox will get on top of

for a day and you're like, fuck, I never like got to that email. Like, that's them with dead bodies. Sorry. Your honor. I have how many emails do you have in your inbox?

So many. The fact that. I've never, I've never built a fake cardboard door to hide my email. You know what I mean? Like that suggests some nefariousness. So this coroner owned a funeral home with his brother.

That's where they found it. They said some of the bodies, which were supposed to be cremated, had been there for at least 15 years. Cotter also, quote, admitted that he may have given some families some fake cremated remains. He may have given some families. Well, if the body's here, what did you give them?

I mean, giving them some fakeies, yeah, some rep remains. I've met coroners. I met a coroner once. Okay. I don't know, but he worked with dead bodies. He was at a, he was at the University of Pennsylvania. I did it like a National Geographic story about when you donate your body to science and like, you know, a bunch of med students, you know, dissect it. And they do not respect it.

But it's weird. Like, it is a weird-ass job to be alone with a bunch of dead bodies and like taking out the brain, you know, and like draining them and doing all these things. And there's not, I don't think there's like eyes on you very much. and especially at a funeral home. Not living ones. Not living eyes on you. The question, number one, there's no amount of febrize

that can hide the smell of 24 decomposing bodies. Right. But also. Says you. I mean, or Glade plug-ins. It's a real moment. Not behind this hermetically sealed

cardboard door. What you do is you blow, you can, it's like smoking weed in a college dorm room, you know? You stuff a bunch of debris. Yeah, all the, all the bounce sheets, yep. Dyer sheets. sheets in a little thing, then you blow the decomposing body smell through it and nobody can smell it. Nobody knows. Put a towel under the door.

But yeah, but I'm like, was he selling body parts? That I understand. They're in high demand, you know, or like different pieces of like, you know, there was one corner who was found to be like selling pieces of ears to like different Halloween shops and shit like that. But also I do think that like it's expensive. It's expensive to do dead body work. That's why we should put them all. Yeah. Like, So is it just cost savings? I think it is cost saving. You think it's just like we didn't have the money to like fire up the cremation of that day. Cost saving to just burn the fucking thing to ash. And he goes, so that's the thing. He like what did it cost him over the course of 15 years to like hide them? Because it can't just be fucking rotting in the hot, like in a hot room, right?

It's just so gross. It's a temperature controlled pit, okay? So, like, I'm just like a fine wine. I'm going to just let it go off. Like, I want to hear from coroners or coroners, from the kingdom of nominor. I'm here for coroners. And anybody who has experience with this about or like has read a good thing about this about just like, what, like, I think coroners have their own shit going on. Yes, they do.

I think you're right, Francesca, that, like, Like, to do that job, you need to be, like, at least a click off. You know what I mean? Such a click off. And, like, they know it. And the other thing is, like, at a certain point, like, there's so many dead bodies, like, that's not a person anymore. That's not a loved one.

I know that's sad to say. Not my love one. But that's not how they view it. They're just like, that is a cadaver. There is nothing left. Like, if they would have been haunted at this point and they're not, they're like, cool. You actually just forget about them. Kind of.

They never come back and, like, haunt you in the middle of the nights. I keep waiting to wake up to some chain rattling. How many did I have back there behind my cardboard door? Oh, shit. That's right. That's right. Oh, yeah. I think we got, like, 23 dead bodies back there.

Sorry, dude. I remember this around the whole Manteo thing happened. It was, like, who's his girlfriend? I was like, sorry, threw me for a loop and, like, I don't know if you remember Assad. It was, it was, this is, it was a crazy year. It just completely fucking distracted me, man. The fucking sad bit about this. There was that balloon guy, that balloon kid.

That really fucked me up. Like, I felt like I got really whiplashed on that story. There's, like, a sad wrinkle to this story because there's another guy who is named interim coroner. And he was trying to, like, regain the trust of the community here after the scandal by throwing a, quote, family-friendly Halloween party, which they like, the coroner's, the coroner's office. announce this on their Facebook page. And it said, quote, wear a costume, mom and dad included, and hit the dusty trail, enjoy treats and games and spooky times with family and friends.

And the entire community was like, bruh, no. Like, we know you're not that guy. A funeral home having a Halloween party is just like. Well, this is different because that was, that was specific to that corner. That was like his side business he had, which is where the, like, this was just more the official coroner's office for the county. being like, hey, hey, gang. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

sorry about that. We know how to deal with dead bodies. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, right, the corner, the, this is me realizing that a coroner works for the city. Yeah. Yeah, it's like an official position. Oh, right.

I know that. I do a show about politics. I knew that. I thought a coroner is just someone who handles the dead bodies, but okay, it's official. It's official. They have to be like, I want to be, that because let me do that it's funny i just get in there just now i texted my friend who

one of my best friends she's a she's like a like a trauma nurse works out like she's worked in every part of the hospital basically and i was like i just on the key i was like hey random question like what are like coroners people like who who store the deceased like what's your experience with them and she was like she brought up one of our mutual friends she's like you know so-and-so's girlfriend's a mortician right she's like she's like my experience like they're all alt kind of alt people yeah yeah and i was like huh but not i was like but like you like you ever meet one and you're like they're they're storing body she's like i mean not all of them just you know but you definitely you kind of you got something else going on if you're like and i'm kind of relaxed around

this so this is on this is like on but i don't understand the coroner the coroner shouldn't like how does this work i'm sorry the coroner's job isn't a cremate isn't the coroner's job to be like yep this person died. Now I'm going to hand him off to a funeral home. He might be, it might be self-dealing where he's like, hey, just so you know, I got your body here. You know, I also run a funeral home with my brother. Fertical integration. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty soon they're going to also buy some old age homes, you know, and then just keep moving their way down.

Yeah, I don't know. Not the worst thing a coroner's done. I mean, again, no body parts were sold that we know to on eBay. But what of those are? remains. Were they desecrated in some manner? Right. That is the dark, like, the immediate question that, like, the scenario my mind goes to. And that, because if you're, what do you keeping them for? Well, what was your theory? Jack, what do you think? So, my question was, like, trying to put myself in that position. It's just like work got away from. Work overload. Yeah,

work overload. You're trying to look at it from your perspective. Sorry, this got buried in my inbox. Exactly. This got buried in my pile of other bodies. buried in my inbox. Or didn't get buried. Yeah, am I right? Tell them. The fake cardboard door, I need to see what that looks like. If it was just a piece of cardboard that they just threw up to like keep the smell

in place, maybe. If it was like a good facsimile of a door, then we might have problems. They're complete skeletons at that. Yeah. Like I was just, because I did, the piece I did was about decompose. composition and so like all the juices at like after like a week or two are gone and then it just becomes dried skin on bone so it's kind of like a tales from the crypt type situation skin on or I don't know skin on bone but then even then maybe you saw that at a sexually formative time

of his life saw the cryptkeeper and was like that's the only thing I gotta fuck that eyehole I gotta fuck that clip keeper that ocular cavity is doing something to me there is wild shit that is done though Like, sometimes people donate their body and it goes to, you know, medical research and the medical students, like, make fun nicknames for them and, you know, do a bunch of gallows humor. Sometimes it goes to the military and you're, like, being, your dead bodies being, like, rocketed through the sky and, like, exploded and, like, just wild shit happening. So. Was there a cadaver in that Tesla that's orbiting Earth? No. No, probably not.

Who knows? Maybe in the trunk. Hopefully, look, when the revolution happened. it'll be Elon's. And I say that in the most nonviolent way possible. Yes. Just he'll, that's how he's going to try to get to Mars. He's going to just try and drive.

Oh, he's going to try to rocket his way out of here and then his rocket fails. I mean, that probably would be. So long, suckers. No, I do think launching people into space is a good way. Like, that is the modern day guillotine is you have to ride your rocket out of here. Rocket ride. Rocket ride. Dude, I would go to that rocket launch.

Are you kidding me? I'd be so excited for that rocket lock. This is some weird as fucking sci-fi dystopia film where like the new form of public execution is rocket riding people. This is fucking tens of thousands of people. Get ride. Rocket, ride. Someone's going up to space.

Yeah. What's that like really creepy children's story? It's not children's, but it was like they all get the. The lottery? Yeah, the lottery. It's like the lottery, but rocket ride. Is it a short story that I had to read in seventh grade, I think? So did I. Yep.

Where they, it's like a small community. It just like describes it in detail. It's like a, you know, kind of commune vibes. And then there's like a big lottery that everybody's excited for. And the person who like wins it in the end, like twist gets stoned to death. They just get stoned to death. Like it's the most, it is a, it's a perfectly, you learn about short stories. That's the whole thing.

You learn about how to write, suspense. It is a huge, like a foundational. It's like one of the legs of the table that the Hunger Games was like built on. You know what I mean? But anyways, great short story. Did you read Occurrence at Al Creek? Accurrence at Alcriek by Ambrose Beers? Yeah, the one where like the guy like escapes from a hanging.

Yeah. And then. What? Oh, yeah. Short story? Short story. Very similar. Like two, those are the two most formative short stories on me.

And they both have twist endings. So I was a big fan of that. That was the one thing I remember reading that in it, he talks about how like a sharpshooter had gray eyes. And supposedly people with gray eyes had better eyesight. This is all just civil war bullshit. And then Steph Curry came along and proved him right. Exactly.

Ambrose Beers. He's like, you done me well, Steph. Well, Francesca, such a pleasure having you, as always on the Daily Zykeyes. Where can people find you, follow, you, hear you, all that good stuff? Yeah, listen to The Bituation Room podcast. You can also watch it on YouTube. I'm doing deep dives now. So like 30 minute, sometimes an hour, but long form videos with jokes, trying to make it fun. Yeah. So yeah, YouTube.com slash franny, Fio, F-R-A-N-I-F-O is where you get that. I just have to spell that out. Yeah, yeah. And is there a working media that you've been enjoying? Come back to me.

Do you want a second? Yeah, one second, go and a second. Miles, where can people find you and we'll come back to you? Miles, where can people find you? And is there a working media? You've been enjoying it. Find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. If you want to hear me chat shit, about 90-day fiancé, check out 420-day fiancé.

A couple posts I like at Sarah Lazare. Dot Biscata social posted just in regards to Chicago. It's hard to convey just how much Chicagoans are mobilizing against ice. Don't want to downplay the harm or make it seem like a fair fight. But in neighborhoods across the city, ice is getting chased by people blowing whistles and shouting. People are running toward ice to protect their neighbors. Yeah, that's Sarah Lazar. That's my friend, journalist, and she's awesome.

Yeah. But that's amazing. People running at ice. Yeah. The whistle thing, I think, is super effective that I've seen, like, with those clips, because, yeah, it's an immediate alert. And if you have another one on you, that shit can just reverberate. Another one is at L is an island.combeas social posted. I'm not sure you can get more Marie Antoinette than taking away food stamps

before Thanksgiving while you build a golden marble dance hall so other crooks can bribe you over a badly cooked Argentinian steak. Yeah. Ooh. Yeah. It really is going to be, in retrospect, pretty clear that they were, that they were fucking up. It's like, huh, huh. So I guess that was bad.

And they were just ignoring as people could afford less and less food. And the elite didn't see it coming? No. The whole ballroom is going to be full of, like, nothing but honey traps, like honey trap, honey pot, whatever. God. Just all the foreign. And honeypots, just toilets also probably too. Yes, golden toilets and honey pots.

Francesca, is there a work in media that you've been able to find that you've been in? I mean, you know, Matt Bernstein on Twitter was quote tweeting, this right-wing influencer, Emily Austin, has launched Hot Girls for Cuomo. So, you know, I have, I got to get in on that satire. So I'm about to go record something now. Stay tuned. But Matt Bernstein says, honestly, I was skeptical, but they did a good job with the website. And, of course, I clicked. And I'm like, did they?

And it's just the report of investigation into allegations of statement, a sexual harassment by Governor Andrew M. Cuomo, August 20. And it's all the fact findings from the, I think, 13 plus women who accused him of sexual harassment and assault. So good for you, Matt Bernstein. There you go. Working media, I've been enjoying Eugenia C-U-U-Y-D-A tweeted. I've been thinking about this. David Foster Wallace quote more and more recently, and the quote is,

the technology is just going to get better and better and better and better, and it's going to get easier and easier and more and more convenient and more and more pleasurable to be alone with images on a screen given to us by people who do not love us but want our money, which is all right in low doses, right? But if that's the basic main staple of your diet, you're going to die. In a meaningful way, you're going to die. Ooh, why are you guys, damn, shit is different that the daily zeitists in 2025.

You guys are all like, fucking, not fun ones today. I just got back from college. He wrote that, or, you know, he died in 2008, I think. So he was on to something. Yeah. Is he like a writer? Because that was like really well written. You have like a book?

read his uh his profile of i think it's in a book called consider the lobster and other short nonfiction and there there's a profile of the san fernando valley in the porn industry that's really good called big red sun is it good to read him or is it just i was just like watching memes about like yeah you know guys who want you to read david foster wallace no i don't know i really liked that collection of nonfiction i didn't i tried to read uh infinite just and couldn't do it so I am not one of those guys. Oh, my God, you haven't read Infinite Just? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like his nonfiction. Also, somebody tweeted a picture of some of the young Republicans who were in that chat and said, I like how young Republicans all store their groped mass in their central tour. So they look like they've been genetically engineered to survive golf cart crashes. They really are. They're built like doors. Like, Jesus. It's kind of wild.

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