The Daily Zeitgeist - Would A Spy Trend Himself? 9/9: Trump/Epstein, Supreme Court, 4th Amendment, 'The Smashing Machine', Mariah Carey

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

In this edition of Would A Spy Trend Himself?, Jack and Miles discuss the release of Trump's lewd birthday card to Epstein, the Supreme Court lifting the restraining order that restricts racial profiling by ICE, The Rock's new film "The Smashing Machine", Mariah Carey finally winning a VMA and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What if instead, because I feel like the default accent right now in pop music is American accent, right? Like, everybody hides there. I think in punk, it's British. You have to pretend to be like, yeah, like you're a little British. Yeah, yeah, like Green Day did it. I feel like we need to evolve into a future where it's Australian. Everything is Australian, just deeply Australian accent for all pop songs.

That's our final accent for them. Like, we all turn to crabs. We all turn to Ozzy's for their accents. Everybody's just headed towards the Aussie. I mean, it's fucking going. Every accent seems to get just a little, you know, lazier, you know, like the accepted pronunciation, the British accent, the standard British accent was not the accent. Like during Shakespearean time, that's not how people talked.

And it's like evolved that way because people, because pronouncing ours is hard, I guess. So they're just like, I don't know. And then Boston has the same thing. So. Well, let's see. Let's hire a linguist get their take on this. I think it's pretty sound what we're saying here. Yeah, yeah.

This is all facts. The thing that you're going to have to understand about the show now that it's earlier is it's become way more academically rigorous, way more well-sourced. And you know what they say about facts. They don't care about feelings. Oh, my God. That is going to be our new motto on this earlier version of the trends. Oh, yeah.

Brought to you by Coke Industries. Yeah. All right. Well, we got a new birthday card just dropped miles. Perhaps one of the most eagerly anticipated birthday cards. Yeah. There was a line outside of the local papyrus store. Yeah.

People were all, I was like, what's going on? They're like, the new Trump Epstein birthday card just dropped. Oh, oh. Interesting. There are always lines all over Los Angeles that I am always curious about who. I always ask. You do? I will stop, Mike. Screech in the middle of the strode.

I did that the other day. Yo, yo, yo, what's it? We all line for. We online for it. And they go like, it's a photo booth museum. I was like, what? Fuck, man. Like, they have a bunch of different photo booths in there.

Get that. And I'm like, man, fuck you. I just said, fuck you. Well, I'm going to go off myself. over here uh not even i was like fuck you when i drove off they're like what's that guy's problem just got to give him a big thumbs up i was like that i mean when i was in new york uh in the fall there was like i forget where i was i think i was in like soho area definitely on like the lower east side and there was a line i looked it was for a bunch of people

to use one fucking photo booth what is so is like photo booths the new like people are into photo booths that's like a hipster gen z thing i think because of how digital and foreign like doing things i rl have become for younger people like there's truly a nostalgia for like because you know i think about millennials we were fucking photo i mean all older people were fucking photo booths up like you know all over my refrigerator at all these photo booth pictures of her majesty and i together over the years and i think people just super nostalgic for like especially ones that are like actually developing photos too because that like film look it's a bunch of things it looks like photo booths do take good pictures i feel like like

they they are good at what they do your head shot is a photo booth just cut out yeah yeah four different lists yeah hold on like i didn't get my glasses on in time me missing by like three seconds on four different look the first one is good the other three you look like someone's fighting you in the photo booth yeah anyways um the so this is the picture where we, we had seen the transcript of the cool poem that was written as a birthday card for Jeffrey Epstein, again, the poem goes, do I want to read it? It says, voiceover, there must be more to life than having everything. Donald, yes, there is, but I won't tell you what it is, Jeffrey, nor will I share.

Who knows? It's cryptic. know what it is. Donald, we have certain things in common, Jeffrey. Jeffrey, yes, we do. Come to think of it. Donald, he, he, he, he. Uh, I don't know. Never age. Have you noticed that? Never age. Have you noticed that? Jeffrey, as a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you. It feels like they're like talking around some horrible crime that they've committed. We'll get to that. A pow is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday. May, and, may every day be another wonderful secret, Donald J. Trump, and then a signature, I got to say,

all right, this irrespective of everything else. This is a moment. You hate this drawing. This drawing sucks shit. It's fucking terrible. It's so bad. I think everybody, I can't imagine, because we'd been told about this in advance. It kind of reminds me of the Mueller voice reveal, where like everybody was talking about Mueller in the media for like months and you just like I'm gonna get Donald Trump you imagine he talked like Batman

and then he comes down and he's like where oh shit or not yeah and this is like they're like it's a naked woman and his signature is like in the pubic region

and it's like it's a naked woman's body by way of E.T. It's a weird yeah it's a weird body. It's E.T. with the titties out. Yeah.

That's what it looks like. Also kind of fucks up his, because one of his alibis was like, I don't draw naked women. And it's like, well, neither does the person who drew this, my man. So that's, uh, yeah. I was trying to squint my eyes and see what it could else it could look like because it's, everything's wrong with this. Like it's, first of all, it's armless, this form. Armless form.

You thought it was harmless until you saw a picture of a shorty armless. Yeah. And then I got to say, I think the signature as pubic hair is also like a stretch. It's not really where pubic hair would be on this person. I mean, based on how he drew this physical form, he might, he might have intended to be there like so low. It's like a foot below the hips. Anyways, just very, very weird, like, completely regardless of like his argument that it wasn't him the fact that it clearly was the drawing sucks shit like that that was my first uh yeah

first take but yeah i mean jd vance was you know he he doubled down when it first came out and was like where's the letter would you be shocked to learn they never showed it to us before publishing it does anyone honestly believe this sounds like donald trump um this story is complete and utter bullshit yeah yeah god he's so good at swearing he's he's really i feel like you know, at a 13-year-old's level of just, well, excuse my language, but. It's because he's not, he's not doing, like, cool swearing. He's doing, like, stressed out dad swearing. Yeah.

He's like, God, it's complete utter bullshit. Like, that's how I read it. It's like, he's not like, man, this is bullshit. He's, you know, like, when somebody will say, like, this is bull hockey, you know, and, like, you can tell they mean bullshit. When he swears, you can tell he means bull hockey. Like, he, you know. You know, like, you can tell that he's, he's subbing in the actual bad word for, like, the half-assed cuck swear word that he's used his whole life.

But anyway, yeah. Yeah, the House Oversight Committee got their hands on the birthday card. The whole, like, book of birthday cards published it, looks like shit. The whole book is full of just wild shit. Oh, yeah. There's like, something was like, wow, how life changes. Like, it was like someone drew a picture of like, as presumably just. Jeffrey Epstein as a teacher because he's, I don't know, he's like around a bunch of little kids with like balloons and shit.

And then the next panel is him being massaged by like naked ladies. Donald or Bill Clinton also had some kind words. I mean, all the people who have been in orbit of Epstein, like they're in this book basically saying some form of like, hey, pal, you're the greatest. Love you. But not all weird cryptic poems where they're like speaking around a horrible crime that they've committed. I think the more incriminating thing is that photo with Trump. So this is in the book. Yeah.

In the book, there's a photo of Donald Trump with Jeffrey Epstein holding a giant novelty check after Trump, quote, sold him a fully depreciated woman for $22,500. Yeah. The caption was, Jeffrey showing early talents with money plus women sells fully depreciated redaction, I think it must be this person's name, to Donald Trump for $22,500. And it's like a big check. Donald Trump signed it. And you can see Trump's face.

He's like behind the woman along with this other guy, Joel Paschow, who's, I guess, some long time Mar-a-Lago guy, like being like, hey, hey, I did that. What do you mean? What is a, I'm sorry, what is a fully depreciated woman? Yeah. I mean, you couldn't come up with more concrete evidence of like sex slavery. than him being in a photo with a giant novelty check buying a woman from Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, right.

And the other caption that says there, it says, Epstein showed, quote, showed early people skills too. Even though I handled the deal, I didn't get any of the money on the girl. And this book was put together by Galane Maxwell. Yeah. Anyways, just full of wild, gross shit. I think Clinton's in there. just out all the all the greatest hits uh the white house did come out and be like does anybody believe

this is actually Donald trump signature i mean come on and they compare the signature from the card to his current signature and it uh indeed you know it obviously is the same person but it's not exactly the same the signature on the card has like a long tail on it yeah and they're all like It's not, it can't be him. Then everyone's like, here's the thing I have from him from this era. That's how he signed his name. And then people just, yeah, there's like seven signatures from that era where he signs it exactly like the card.

So. Yeah. Eric Trump was on Newsmax being like, my dad does not do drawings. And you're like, guys, you can, they, they auctioned off doodles that Donald Trump has done of like this city and stuff. He fucking, he, he draws shit. Not that he's like a prolific illustrator. But to say that, like, he never does anything like that is also bullhockey, as they say.

Yes, as J.D. Vance so desperately wishes to say. Yeah, I don't know. It seems pretty open and shut, like, yeah, like a book full of birthday cards to a famed pedophile. You just got to live in a country where, you know, like, they do shit about stuff like this. Right. You know, that's our problem is that we let people get away with, you know, untold horrors all the time. So, yeah, this is, this is where you land where they just go now have people

be like, it's not even true. There are other people like on Twitter and stuff, like these MAGA people who are like, it's all fake. Like this isn't even real. Like that's not even him. This is all, everything is fake. It's like, man, whatever you got to tell yourself. Just avoid reading other news because you'll kind of begin to clearly see that he's,

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I mean, he's still got an Oscar Tony to go, right? Yeah, yeah. But he's got everything else. He's got the, I guess, yeah, he's got the E and the G. He's got half, he's got half an Egot. He's got a bag. But on Reddit, somebody said he's got, but Kendrick does have the coveted pegging, which is a Pulitzer Emmy, Grammy, Grammy, I heart music.

Award, Nickelodeon Teen's Kids Choice Award, and Grammy. Coveted, coveted. Coveted, coveted. Yeah, you got to put a coveted in front of all those. Coveted pegging. I don't know what a Peabody is, or a Pulitzer or whatever that first one is. But all the rest are pretty iconic. Is that like the Canadian VMAs? Maybe.

Or no, that's the Much Music Awards. I remember when I realized Canada had their own MTV, like, Much Music. And I was like, what the fuck is this? man much music yes daddy like that's what it sounds like to me sorry Canada but much music is good yes music much

fuck you Canada your MTV has a stupid name you guys play music videos probably or does much music still play music videos let me know I'm really curious does much music music much any more tune in tune in and find out. All right, let's talk about the Supreme Court.

They essentially said fuck the Fourth Amendment. Fuck the Constitution, just generally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now the, you know, government is able to apprehend you if you look brown, if you look like you're, you know, an immigrant to their eyes. If you look immigrant, sound immigrant, then ICE is justified in hemming you up. And again, you know, the Fourth Amendment, what's, who gives a shit about the constitutional right to be free from arbitrary interference by law enforcement?

But yeah, apparently, you know, ICE was just going around L.A. This all because this was from a case, like that was brought because of litigants in Los Angeles, essentially saying ICE was just going around L.A., looking for brown people as the criteria to harass and arrest innocent Angelinos, just going about their days. So their full criteria was basically some version of, Are they Brown? Do they have an accent? Are they doing manual labor? Home Depot? Are they waiting for a bus and brown? And a lower court rightly called out the unconstitutional bull hockey here. But the Supreme Court just let us know that they side with the brutalized immigrants crowd because, again, they were granting the administration emergency relief, okay, as if to say that the country is in peril if they are not able to. to go about rounding up people just for not being white. So I think what's also interesting is the court didn't even explain its reasoning.

Like they've done this a lot of times when they've just given Trump a pass. Like usually they're like, and what is our legal reasoning here? Just noped their way out of that thing. I think which probably makes sense because they probably know saying, we are bought and paid for by right wing oligarchs that want to usher in a radical fascist ethno state on our watch doesn't quite have that like ring to it. Yeah. So yeah, fully

now in second class citizen territory where you are asked if you have papers and even if you do, it doesn't even fucking matter. Yeah. The full on class war. Yeah. It's the thing where you know, the Nazis come up and ask you for your papers

no longer applies because these this Gestapo doesn't even need to ask for the papers. They're just no, no, no. They're like, Like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you're brown. Come with me. It's fucking frightening. It's like a full-on mask off the, you know, they're changing the name of the Department of Defense to Department of War. They're blowing up, you know, boats because they suspect there are drugs on there, allegedly.

And trying to start, like, a fucking war with Venezuela, essentially. Like, they're building up all this military infrastructure in the region for, you know, and there's, they're, the words regime change. or being fucking bandied about. Yeah. So that's terrorizing. And again, the, you know, one of the fucking ice, like heads of ice was saying is like, we're going to be flooding the zone in Los Angeles, basically after this decision came out, which is, like, L.A. is already so subdued from that first round of bullshit that now them

having basically no, like, no legal, there are no legal safeguards for people here. So because this is now being ordained by Scotis as perfectly legal, I'm, fuck, it's just devastating. Yeah. And again, their record on those arrests was 70% people didn't have any criminal record and were still, you know, being deported. Or detained or even. Yeah. Don't give it a fuck. They did a raid in a Hyundai plant in Savannah, Georgia, where they brought like hundreds of people.

And they were even taking people that were citizens. like it just didn't just doesn't fucking matter yeah it doesn't matter brown if you have brown skin they just or you know it's like honestly full on class warfare where it's of course i mean yeah they're going after people who work blue collar jobs essentially and just trying to fucking terrorize them yeah yeah yeah yep yep yeah well at least there's a new the rock movie there there might be a new chapter in the Rock's career based on this trailer. Did you see it? You watched it? Yeah, I watched the trailer.

He, like, I had seen the previous trailer and like that, that one was like a little bit more frenetically edited. Yeah, yeah. But like, this one you get to like sit with him for like, at least like three seconds at a time and like really like see his performance. Yeah. It's like unlike anything you've seen him do elsewhere. I think I seem like a real person.

I think I was famously saying he has no range as an actor. He hasn't. It's also some version of the rock, basically. Which is like super charming. He's charming as fuck. Like I remember he was in that follow up to get shorty, get low. I think he's like super funny and fun in that. He's been a lot of fun and a lot of movies.

I loved him in Fast 5. Like he's, he is a great movie star, you know, and movie stars tend to just always kind of hit one note really well. Yeah, they're themselves on screen and that's what's like fun about it. And then every once in a while they can like find a new gear. And it feels like that might be what's happening. He definitely found some new gear looking at his fucking physique, this fucking trailer, bro. I don't know what the, I mean, you see him, he slimmed down now.

Did you see him at that premiere? Yeah, I think he, like, Batista was like, you can't have muscles like this and do steroids for your whole life. because it will cause a early exit. But anyway, the smashing machine, it's about Mark Kerr, who, like, was an early MMA guy and fought mostly, like, in Japan, like the pride cards that were out there. And, yeah, I mean, like, obviously, like,

there's a lot of overlap just from being, like, a combat sport sort of entertainer type thing. But the makeup is just performance. I was really caught off guard. And, yeah, this is a Benny Safdi written and directed film, and he actually, like, credits his experience, like, working with Nathan Fielder on the curse for how it informed the way, like, he shot this film, because he was saying, like, he wanted, like, really to give people like this, like, feeling that you're in

the fight, but not, like, because there's, like, a ton of these, like, MMA scenes. And he's, like, I wanted our cameras to be, like, third rate press, like, visibility. So, like, you had to really see through the other bodies to really experience it, rather than, like, being right there to, like, give it this thing. And he said he learned from, the curse that you can still be far away from the subject like you can have that distance

while still really being in like the heads of the characters and I really liked that so won the Silver Lion at the Venice Film Festival. That for Best Director. The award for Best Director a lot of the reviews

are saying that it's a real revelation in terms of your my favorite book of the Bible. The Revelations. Revelace. The revelaceous. Yeah. The best.

The most action-packed. We'll talk about our full episode. Oh, that's a new favorite. The Book of Revelations going viral online with the help of AI. That's all, that makes sense. Revelations has the most comic book-ass shit. Yeah, got some wild shit. There's a bunch of movies coming up that I'm pretty excited about.

Like one battle after another, I'm fucking pretty charged up about. I didn't realize that that is based on the, Pynchon novel or Pynchon or how the fuck you pronounce that. Pinchin, yeah. Yeah, based on his novel, Vineland. I didn't realize that's what Vineland was about.

I didn't even know that either. Yeah, so. And Vineland is a street in North Hollywood. There it is. So I'm going to take that as disrespect. And now I don't like the movie. Now I don't want to see that. I'm rooting against that movie.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We do have to just say, finally, big shout out to Mariah Carey, finally winning an MTV VMA. Yeah. This is like the The snub, the career long snub that I didn't know what's happening, but apparently Mariah Carey fans were like,

what the fuck is happening right now? How has she not won a VMA? So she won a VMA and a Lifetime Achievement Award. It's wild though, too, because she won for that music video. I think, I don't know if you were on. Remember, she had that AI-laden fucking music? Yeah, that's what she won for. Wow.

sucks because she's had some iconic music videos which I'm really I can't it is a little bit weird like she just won it must suck to win for like your shittiest music video too to like finally break that but the Oscars do that shit all the time yeah by the way speaking of Oscars I feel like the rock has to be early favorite for an Oscar it feels like a low hanging fruit thing where you can be like just with a juxtaposition of his past performances and this one you're like oh wow yeah oh wow but i really went through a physical transformation and he's fucking huge he had a wig on yeah he wore a wig and had some prosthetics for his face yeah yeah what do you do i can't tell i don't know yeah he looks kind of he kind of looks like his dad for uh acceptance speech

what in the sam hill were you waiting for i don't know okay don't show let's not show our age mariah let's not show our sugar bones you know how i don't Remember old prospector? From the Will Ferrell greatest hits DVD? Guss chickens. For everybody, if, in case you're not as old as us, the Will Ferrell greatest hits, SNL, DVD. DVD.

Yeah, we're talking about a DVD special feature. A DVD has a special feature that's a sketch that didn't make air. And it's just a very thin premise of he's an old prospector, an old tiny prospector. I think, like, there's nothing else. Yeah, it's like modern military. About to go into Afghanistan. And he's just an old prospector out there being like, oh, sugar bottoms. As they're, you know, planning a military incursion.

All right. Well, those are some of those things that are trending. Guys, go buy a DVD. Check it out, guys. I bet that's just got to be on YouTube. It is. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Tuesday, September 9th. We are back.

tomorrow morning with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get your vaccines. We still can't get your flu shots. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye.

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