The Daily Zeitgeist - WTF Is A Truman Show Presidency? Mcconaughey Speaks 10.12.21

Episode Date: October 12, 2021

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 206, Episode 1 of Your Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, October 12th, 2021. Happy World Arthritis Day. Big arthritis finally gets a marketing win. Happy National Free Thinkers Day. Yikes. Loaded, loaded, loaded.

Yeah, very loaded. You know, the type of people who talk about free thought and do your own research. Logic and reason. Yeah, I feel like it's national do your own research day what they might as well be saying my name is jack o'brien aka it's been one week since you soaked in me cocking don't move that makes our god angry five days since you ghosted me because i have no friends to jump and i'm sorry uh that is courtesy of joseph henderson at joe thinks stuff nice and big uh and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray it's mile we'll look

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Okay, the row. You came with that one. You know what's going on. This is a Mormon sport. Okay. Peak come, peak soak, AKAs. Yeah. As a society, let's try and switch gears.

Especially because we keep having these first-rate guests on our second-rate podcast. Yeah. guests on our second rate podcast. Today, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by an award-winning staff writer for Slate, whose work focuses on identity and religion.

He wrote and produced the amazing video series, Who's Afraid of Amon Ismail, and has appeared on CNN and NPR, and has been featured in the New York Post, Adweek, Gawker, the Huffington Post. Please welcome the brilliant, the talented, Eamon Ismail. What's up?

Wow. Wait, you said his last name wrong. What an intro. That's how you say it in Who's Afraid of Eamon? I didn't know you were. Did I fuck up your last name or is that how? There's no correct way to say it. It's more like a vibe.

You just got to feel it. I've had to say that a few times before. It's more like a vibe. I'm so tired of telling people my name is Eamon like Matt Damon. I'm just like, say whatever you want. I don't care. You can have it. I don't need it back.

Or the fact that you have to evoke Matt Damon as part of your self-identifying process. Like Matt Damon. Fuck it up. But I did fuck it up last time, right? But you're saying it's okay either way, right? I mean, again, if you want to do it like the Arabic way, it's got to be like

Amen Ismail. But who's going to sing it like that? You just got to be like, Amen, Amen, Amen's gonna sing it like that you just gotta be like amen amen amen amen amen matt damon matt damon matt damon amen amen yeah don't call don't call me hey man that's the only thing right the guitar center tried to pull that joke with me and i almost i almost oh no i was like you know matter of fact return these strings for me returning i'm done. These Ernie balls, man.

These are good strings, man. You sure? All right. I asked for the super slinky, man. Get, get. Oh, my bad. Okay. I'll go back there. I'll go back there.

I'll get the right strings. Man. So where's, what's, what's good with you? Where are you at? Where are you? You're, you're, you looks like you're traveling, you know? Yeah. I'm out in the land, dude.

I'm secretly, I'm secretly doing my work from Puerto Rico. Don't tell my editors no please when you when you when you find this out don't snitch tag anybody at slate because nobody knows hey i was we were we were just talking about one of the articles uh i forget who wrote it over at slate about the tall zoom energy piece and i was curious have you have you is that something you've noticed too? Like, have you met new coworkers and people think you were taller or less tall or what's your vibe? I haven't, I haven't been back to an office since then. I'm trying to hold out for as long as possible. See, I was never a fan of like office culture.

I know some people have started going back already. I'm fine with just the messages and the emails. I don't need to see you, you know? So I like leaving it, leaning into the mystery and just, it's like a shorter, shorter is height. I don't need to see you. You know? So I like leaving it, leaning into the mystery and just, it's like a shorter, shorter is height. I don't need to know how tall you are. And for all I know, you could be six foot, five foot. I just don't want to go back to the office. I mean, I was always commuting from New Jersey into New York. And so our subway is different than you guys' subway. You know, we have the real freaks of the subway on our subway. So I'm like, I don't know. People actually want to start conversations with you

where I get off, so no thanks. I mean, that's easy for you to say. You have tall Zoom energy. I mean, look at you. It's true. Your Zoom presence is overpowering, so it's easy for you, but for some of us, The secret is to not stack your laptop

and keep it as low as possible. Get that MySpace angle. Oh, yeah. It's always from that perspective. You want the chin. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's good. How is Puerto Rico?

What's good in Puerto Rico? I mean, I would recommend the shrimp empanadas. I was really, really into tostones. I've tried the mofongo, but but honestly it's not better than it is in the bronx so right you know you gotta you gotta come with the expectation that you're just going to like a tropical bronx that's how you really get to enjoy puerto rico otherwise you're just going to be setting yourself up for sort of like an american florida fusion it's it doesn't feel like you've left the country in a weird way but at the same time like

everything is just delicious and they have those those coca-colas here with the real sugar i don't know if you guys do a lot of traveling but like the coca-cola is where we are we call it mexican coke out here yeah because it's typically the ones that they import like in the glass bottle from mexico because anything that's bottled in the in up up here is all corn syrup for that ass. No, no, no. I can't handle that, honestly. It gets my throat off, like, weirdly lubricated. The Sprite with sugar?

Woo! I will obey my thirst every fucking time if there's sugar in it. I'm always impressed by Sprite. I almost never drink it, but when I do, I'm always like, damnite I almost never drink it but when I do I'm always like this is fucking good we're cooking with gas over here was there lemon limon this? yeah

wasn't that the thing they called it? yeah alright well we are going to get to know you a little bit better in just a moment first a couple of stories we're talking about we're going to get to know you a little bit better in just a moment. First, a couple of stories we're talking about. We're going to talk about the numbers coming back on. We've all seen the viral videos of people walking out and being like, I refuse to be vaccinated.

I'm a pureblood. And the numbers tell a different story about how willing people are to lose their job in order to not get vaccinated. We're going to catch up with Matthew McConaughey. All right, all right. All right. All right. I don't know why I just started talking like Bill Clinton, but I think it was yesterday when Brian was like too many people, too many leaders with vocal fry. Yeah, that's right. Then we're just, oh, it's Bill Clinton. It's Matthew McConaughey. There it is. That's your vocal warm-up also i noticed

but anyways he spoke we get to we get to hear what what he's all about we're going to talk about whether this is the beginning of the new trump run for presidency uh he had a event in iowa a rally in iowa over the weekend um and people are speculating this might be this might be the start of him kind of getting on the campaign trail we're early thank god yes we're going to talk about the conspiracy theory that joe biden uh has a fake white house and it's being called like the tr Show presidency, which is confusing. We'll explain it to you. We'll talk about how Justin Bieber was fooled by a Tom Cruise deepfake

and that 60 Minutes story from over the weekend about deepfakes. All of that, plenty more. But first, Eamon, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? One of the other recent things that shouldn't be in my search history but it is but it's just sean hannity throwing a football i don't know i've seen a lot of articles written about him saying that he sucks at throwing a football and he like doesn't have any follow-through i needed to see for myself and honestly i think it's fake news man i think he's pretty good, so there are videos of him just launching that thing?

Well, it's like part of his shtick. He wants people to think that he's not some rich elitist, which he is, and he wants this Americana vibe. So at the beginning or end of every segment, he'll have a Nerf ball that he'll just launch at some poor intern's head. And honestly, he's throwing some spirals, man. Really?

Some tight spirals? Some pretty tight spirals. I mean, he threw it better than me. I played football in high school. What position did you play? Did you play quarterback? I played tight end. Oh, okay.

Damn. He has a weird motion. So you must be like 6'8". I'm like at least 7'9". Based on your energy. Yeah. Based on your energy. Based on your energy based on uh yeah he does have like a weird motion but it does seem like i don't know it's not an embarrassment

it's certainly like i'm sure he doesn't mind people googling sean hannity throwing a football expecting to see conor mcgregor throwing out a first pitch, and then, you know, it's fine. It's just fine. But it's not going to deliver on our expectations if we're expecting to see just a joke. You know, in honor of Do Your Own Research Day, I think people listening should just go and see it for yourselves. You know, it's on YouTube.

It's like in slow motion, so you could really look at it frame by frame and observe the technique. I don't think it's that bad, but, you know, people might disagree. Well, I mean, because also his other thing to be like a macho everyman is his MMA shit, right? Like where he like fights in an apartment. Like I've seen that footage where he's like training, but it's like not at a gym. And it looks like a days in like business. And I'm like, what is this place you're training in, Sean?

But hey, man, when you're vaping and crushing shit. Is he vaping? Is he a vapor? Oh, yeah. He's a vapor. Vapor waves. We blow clouds, bro. Yeah.

Cloud hopping every day. Oh, man. What is something you think is overrated? I thought long and hard about this because I listened to the show and I'm like, what the hell is overrated? It's got to be Hunter Biden's art. I don't know why he sold five pieces for like, what was it? Something 75,000. No.

He just sold all five that he put on almost instantly and the new york post is writing raving reviews for some reason which is totally confusing because they've been calling him a crackhead for like the last year right now they're saying actually he does pretty good art if you check it out and actually look i feel like this kid he just like ripped off somebody off the deviant art he's not he's just making splatters it's not doesn't look good and i feel like because they're only selling because of his name give one presidency one presidency later just wait that like four years whoever bought that art for 75 000 is going to be looking at themselves like why the hell do i have this thing their kid is going to be like dad can i go to college do i have a

college fund to be like sorry son we just didn't pan out like we wanted to right this is wild like this this shit is bad i mean look i'm look maybe i'm mad because you know my father's an artist so like i'm pretty critical art i not that it's based in anything reasonable but this shit is selling for 75 000 is an affront to people who are like actually dedicating themselves to making art and the fact that he had an opening at milk studios in hollywood that is such industry shit i'm like yeah i think some i think they're laundering money with this shit they have to be it's like that painting where they somebody some poor woman in spain tried to fix a painting of jesus and she like smudged the lips and made it look like this crazy cartoon looking thing. Right, right.

It made it look worse, but at the same time, it made it more valuable because of the story behind it. Same thing with like a Banksy piece where Banksy tried to subvert the industry by selling a piece that was going to self-destruct when it sold. Did you guys see that? It like, the frame itself was a shredder. And so as soon as the gavel hit, it sold it for whatever much. It shredded itself.

But that only made it worth more. It's all about being viral. They've basically been selling NFTs. That's what we're doing here. Which again, great way to launder money. Hey, I sold myself an NFT with Bitcoin I got off of a hacking operation. So I bought sold myself an NFT with Bitcoin I got off of a hacking operation.

And that's traceable. So I bought it as an NFT. And now it's all clean. Yeah. They probably had to do the whole Hunter Biden. I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. Either that or cashed in an envelope.

Right. Is this the right doing sort of COINTELPRO type shit? Just really 4d chess shit where they're like sean hannity can't throw a football so people google that and they're like he's okay or hunter biden's art is good and then like we have to go look and be like not really but they're just like trying to seed low or high expectations. The other thing too is just like with art, right? Like it says that the people who bought it were like close,

like personal friends of the person who owned the gap, like whose gallery was putting on the show, which I mean, you know, there is, there is some type of shit where you say you bought the shit for 75,000. You didn't. And the artist says that they sold it for 75,000.

They didn't, but that helps in the long run because then it could get that much or make you know following works of art worth more because you've set like a baseline for what his work is worth but i don't i mean i just don't know like an art collector who's like and this is a hunter biden original yes i know i have i have a couple other ones that is a george o'keefe right next to it. But this is just a one of a kind Hunter Biden nightmare piece. I mean, this actually has a basis in history of like presidential fail son or fail brother like memorabilia. Because like Billy Beer was a thing that came out during the uh jimmy carter presidency like his brother like released a

beer that was like kind of a joke and it tasted really bad but everybody it was it was like the baseball cards of the time everyone was like oh if you just keep one of these and like don't open it you're gonna be a millionaire one day uh and then like there was just a real a bunch of really shitty beer that that never got opened uh and it didn't grow in value so maybe maybe this is like just a in that tradition part of the fail fail i just can't imagine like in a generation people are even going to know who hunter biden is it was like the biggest non-story for the people who are not at the center of the story bro i'm looking at this artwork i'm looking at this artwork and i'm saying they're not gonna know who joe biden is they're gonna know who

hunter biden is because his work is gonna overshadow everything i'm looking at the fucking guernica right now okay it's a fucking masterpiece thank you i also feel like you need to give me one painting where you do something like photorealistic or something because it's all abstract shit that like i don't know i'm not i'm not seeing anything that's like but you know like andy warhol was a great artist like he could paint like things that looked like what they were supposed to look like and also do like pop art i feel like i need i need to see that to appreciate hunter's artwork because it's also like it's a bad version of like murakami takashi's like work like it's very it's like it it's like he it's like hunter biden saw like uh one of his pieces like yo that's kind of fucking weird dude yeah yeah daddy i want paint the only way this is gonna make sense is if donald

trump jr also had like a painting career he was trying to drop and hunter was like actually i'm gonna do this first and and steal all the thunder that's the only way this would make sense to me could you then the sad part is like his art's like really good because he's so tortured from like like not really having a relationship with his father it's so vivid his work it's he just paints self-portraits of him in his bathroom mirror that's right did anyone actually listen to that fight commentary from september 11th where trump and trump jr because it was apparently like his disdain for donald trump jr was like palpable like tell him to shut up kind of shit yeah yeah like he ignored him other than to correct him and there was another person doing the broadcast with them

who was an actual mma fighter and trump was you know as he as he is wont to be like very impressed by big strong men and was just like deferring to him and basically implying that donald trump jr should shut the fuck up he's like i'm sorry about my kid he's kind of an embarrassment yeah he speaks out of turn a lot don you see you see his arms like two big christmas hams those biceps take note buddy take note i think you unlock the secret to tall zoom energy you just have to ignore everybody You see his arms? Like two big Christmas hams, those biceps. Take note, buddy. Take note. I think you unlocked the secret to tall Zoom energy. You just have to ignore everybody, just only chime in to correct them. Yes.

Right, exactly. He would never call Junior Buddy, by the way. Damon, what is something you think is underrated? I would say the Capitol Riders, man. You know, I was there. I think we talked about this last time. I keep thinking about how insane it is that more, almost all of them walked in after the cops had already given up,

did their little tour and left. And I keep thinking back to that. And I'm like, yo, honestly, that's like the dream for some of these protesters. Like if the Women's March were able to just kind of storm in after all the violence that had occurred, so their hands were basically cleaned. They're basically being allowed in because the cops had given up and they don't want to die for the building. That's kind of an amazing feat.

So I don't know. I feel like everyone's been, including myself, just talking about these people like they're crazy sickos and psychos and they all live in like a shed in the middle of the woods like the unabomber but they they got it done man they got it done right yeah that strategy works in a white supremacist country when it's a bunch of white people fighting for white supremacy oh it works out well what is your reason for storming the capital today?

If it's something anti-capitalist, we will shoot you in the face immediately. Oh, white supremacy right this way. Yeah, to the left. We have some windows that we failed to reinforce with any kind of safety measures. They're right underneath the building. If you just smash those out, you'll get right in. It's like, honestly, I don't know. And I mean, to your point about them being underrated when you look at that we i talk about this all the time the sentences that are being handed down to these

people are like the lightest slaps on the wrist dude they're getting to go home yeah they're like attacking cops and they're like oh it's okay you can do like your serve you can you can basically serve your term at home right yeah yeah you're lucky you don't get shot if you're the wrong color. Right. Or just, yeah, and to think that in places like Minneapolis, like we were talking about last week, they were using words like, we're going out hunting. Oh, my God.

That clip is so crazy. They were like a gang. Yeah. I mean, do you think, because it was funny, before we came on, I was talking about like I always I always like read your work in Slate. And I remember one of the around the time of the what was it like the September 8th, the big justice for J6 wet fart of a rally. You had written a piece about how like they don't really need to and they don't need to gather in physical space anymore. Like they've already seen that they have each other out there. And now it's more like, let's shift our focus on actual ways to exert kind of power than just showing up screaming. And that's the scary part is that they've kind of learned their lesson from the Capitol riot, where they discovered what's the benefit from doing something like that and what they can lose.

And maybe some of them had the right, the right, uh, the right reaction where they're like, yo, we're actually losing the middle ground here, but we can go to these school board meetings and scream our asses off about wanting to save the children. And anybody who screams against us looks like they're trying to kill kids on

purpose. Right. That's sort of an easy win. And they know that those people are not going to be protected. They can follow them home and they can threaten them with guns or whatever they want and they're going to be fine in doing so and so i think they've learned their lesson and they realize that they can actually get those people to quit and then run unopposed and get their jobs and just basically start grooming the next generation by red pilling them before they even know what's what yeah yeah and it's

working it's working. It's working. It's, I don't think anybody's really figured out a, how to stop them from doing that and B how to get people to hold these positions. You know, how do we get people who are going to be stuck and threatened and have their families threatened with violence?

How do we tell them, hold your ground? Otherwise these people are going to be rewriting your kids' textbooks. It's a lose-lose situation right yeah it's like they're sort of like i mean in a terrible like analogy but like you're trying to get into like the big club like the stormy of the capitals like yo that nice club you know where the celebrities go and they're like nah man you can't get in here like fuck it we'll go to this dive bar i know we can get into where that's how they're like okay well we couldn't exert power there. There's places where it's the easiest point of entry

into decision-making positions in our communities, and that's where we'll go instead because nobody's checking there. Yeah. Did you guys see what happened in Tennessee? No, what happened in Tennessee? It's like QAnon conspiracy woman is now head of textbooks in Tennessee. And so now she's going to be the one deciding what textbooks get bought and what's being taught in these classes across the board for the whole state.

And she's like this conspiracy QAnon person. It's, it's like, that's the ground that we can't see. And it's, we're already losing it. And this is where I know I'm not shit because I'm immediate. Like I need to write that motherfucking textbook and get rich.

I'm like, you're going to write that motherfucking textbook and get rich. I'm like, you're going to love my take on American history. Trust me. It didn't, America didn't exist till 97. 97. All right. Let's,

it was, it began with a Bill Clinton's Lewinsky affair. Yeah, exactly. That was the, yeah, that was the revolution. The original sin.

Yeah. Actually, no, I guess Ronald Reagan would have to be the founding father. Yeah. Okay, my bad. I'm going to workshop it. Sorry. Start in 1980. There you go.

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This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back. And let's talk about some of the people that, you know, we've covered a few stories about how like outraged healthcare workers are refusing to get vaccinated. Cops are willing to walk out. And so we're starting to see like some results from overall like, you know, companies that had put in place vaccine mandates. And it's like it seems to be generally like only 1% of people refuse to be vaccinated and have to be let go.

Yeah. I mean, there's like sexier numbers like in New York, like where 1400 people were going to be terminated and things like that. But, you know, there's places like United where they have 67,000 employees, only 600 ended up leaving or like a health care system in North Carolina that employs over 35,000. It was only like 120 something that left again, like less than 1%. And I mean, I think there's like this, you know, clearly there's a, there's a like schadenfreude aspect, I think to it, because the majority of the nation is like, we can't just let these people like hold us back. So the idea that it's like, oh, they're taking L's with their careers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We want to see that. hold us back so the idea that it's like oh they're taking l's with their careers yeah yeah yeah we want to see that but i think it's also it's giving people a very skewed idea of like just how like what the resolve is of many people to be like yeah like i'm all about freedom i don't fucking need a job it doesn't seem just like that there was a cnbc story that was like about northern illinois university like vaccine mandates are like causing people to like drop out. But if you read the article, it's only like two people. So you spent all this, you spent all this, all these resources to write a story with this headline. But yet when it boils down to it, you're like, yeah, two people of the thousands took off.

And where I don't know, it's it's just kind a, it's just a moment where I'm like looking at, okay, so clearly I know conservative media is incentivized to keep the outrage about vaccine mandates, you know, like brewing as long as possible. But then even like on just other media sites just seems like even, you know, left or centrist sites, still a very similar thing to like very much focus on this. And I think it gives people a very different idea of what's happening. Yeah. And, you know, you were pointing out in kind of your write up here that this is something that we've seen every like I've actually heard people specifically have this question be like, there's no way that like when the smallpox vaccine came out or when the polio vaccine came out, like there was this much resistance, like we are at a uniquely dumb time. And, you know, that that's not the case. There

was resistance. It just wore down over time. And we were able to, you know, use vaccinations to eradicate smallpox by, you know, after it was over the course of like 50 years but it did but but yeah like there were people like marching on schools to be like we don't want our kids to get the smallpox vaccine like back back at the beginning of the 20th century and cities and town towns all over the u.s faced backlash over the mandates but it just didn't gain as much traction as people being like yeah this appears to be working yeah i think because they're fringe movements you know yeah in their essence yeah this is like a microcosm of exactly what the hell is wrong with the way that we consume news and the way we even write about

news you know i hate talking about media as a pejorative especially someone who's like in the media as a writer because there's so many people who disagree and you know it's the way we decide on what gets written about has nothing to do with what stories we think are the truest it's like what do we think people are going to engage with right that's just how everybody in the media no matter big or small that's how we think of what's a successful piece. And that's a problem. I'm saying that's like, well, that's what's wrong with it. But then, you know, based on the way we consume news media, we're sort of piecemealing whatever our reality is. And so it doesn't matter if we write about the 15 that quit or the 150 who didn't, you know, even though the, the clear majority,

depending on how you feel about the vaccine in the first place, that's what you're going to see. That's what you're going to attach yourself to. You know, I don't know if you guys saw the, there was like a death, uh, last week, there's this woman out in Seattle named Jessica Berg Wilson who lost her life, uh, supposedly because this is all we know is what was written in her obituary. Supposedly because she took the J&J vaccine and got symptoms and eventually died and lost her life. And she was like this young, healthy person. And so she's, if that's true, that's the fourth person in America who died after taking a vaccine, the fourth person. And there have been millions of

doses that have been handed out. But that fourth person is enough for all of these anti-vaccine pundits and mouthpieces or even news websites that are, they're going to attach themselves to the story and pump out like four, five, six articles, just about those four, just about that family that now doesn't have a mom in their life because of what happened to her which is a real thing and it's a tragic thing that's four out of millions so right it's it's really got it really just comes down to what you already think which is really scary yeah yeah right and who's how we how will it uh affect your confirmation bias that's the that's the problem with doing your own research.

I think that's why it's so scary to throw your weight behind it. Cause it's like doing your own research really in this day and age where there's so much information and it's impossible to tell what's real and what's wrong because sometimes what's wrong is, has a grain of reality attached to it. Right. And so you do your own research and you're basically looking for what validates what you already think.

And that's why it's so easy for some of these people to say, do your own research. And they expect you to find what they're finding, which is the stories like Jessica Berg Wilson's and not the millions of others that have had no symptoms. And they're now going to Bonnaroo because they have a vaccine. Bonnaroo because they have a vaccine. Right. It'd be wild if they just do like a versus battle of like a, like, you know, microbiologist epidemiologist tag team versus like Robert F.

Kennedy and some other like anti-vax truth. They're like, this is what we're going to do. It's gonna be a fair one. Okay. We're going to bring up points. You're going to let them say some wild shit. Then scientists will speak.

And then the audience from there will decide. I feel like that way you could be like can you agree to that like if we put your person up against some experts that that would be cool you could just watch them go toe-to-toe but maybe then they're like yeah they were cheating they were cheating the whole thing like they were cheating the scientists by saying everybody knows you can't cheat in verses what happens happens and that's the that's the law. Exactly, as Dip said. There's a thread of this doctor talking about how he talks to people who are skeptical of the vaccine that I brought up a couple times on the show. But the main kind of takeaway for me is that he's amazingly patient

with every single one of the counterfactuals that people like bring up to them and also acknowledges the fact that, yeah, there have been like reactions to the vaccine, just like there are to any vaccine. Here are the numbers, though. And like kind of getting ahead of that. And that seemed really smart to me. Right. be like and then here are your chances if you don't get the vaccine of contracting covid which is like hundreds of times higher than having a reaction and then of dying from covid which are still like dozens of times higher than having a reaction probably still hundreds i don't know anyways we have to get to important shit. Matthew McConaughey has spoken. I'm seeing pick up for this like everywhere in the media. The Hollywood Reporter just sent me a notification being like here.

Matthew McConaughey would be risking it all with a governor run, but he'd also stand to like gain a lot. It's like, why is this? Not risking shit. Right. The fuck is his risk? He's a millionaire. Right. But yeah, so we've all been speculating like what, like just the idea of a Matthew McConaughey gubernatorial run seems very strange.

We have no real idea of what his platform would be. And we still don't. But he talked about it. He said some words kind of at that question yeah i mean it's like is he gonna is this gonna be a reality-based campaign will it be a sick ass character study character bit he's gonna do and just based on his answers it kind of sounds like both is what this thing is gonna be be like, because he went on Kara Swisher's podcast and he had ideas. He had thoughts. First off, just on the abortion ban, SB8 in Texas. He was like, it's ruthless. It's terrible. Like he's like the trickery involved with the legal wording is despicable.

Six weeks is not enough time for anyone for anyone to make a reasonable decision as it would relate to that so that one okay seemed like he was on the reality-based reasoned sort of crew there on masks he said we were all more afraid of the word mandate than we were the damn mask and i think our pride trumped and stamped down our honor there we chose privilege over principle starting he's starting to heat up though getting a little mcconaughey here and then he really then they were like okay so like what how do you think about your relationship to politics and like where you fit in all this stuff he says i'm working on what i'm trying to understand politics to be whoa okay i think we've got to redefine politics if each party's only about preservation of party.

Well, I'm almost arguing that's undemocratic. I mean, there's something to that. And then he says, if you're only there to, you know, by hook or by crook, preserve your party, you're leaving out 50 percent of the people. So I think politics needs a redefining. OK, OK. What else you got? Then he said, look, I'm not a man who comes at politics from a political background i'm more of a statesman philosopher folk singing poet i don't talk hell yeah i talk people there he is statesman philosopher folk singing poet that's what i was waiting for i was waiting for some something like waiting for something like that. I don't know.

Yeah, I guess I'm not sure what his philosophy is aside from him. I think he's also on that Yang like radical centrist shit because he's like, the way I look at it, there's 60% of people out there. That's the majority. And we got to find it from the center, man. And you're like, oh, boy. Is Matthew McConaughey trying to fuck me with this uh answer it's like such just like this shit that a fuck boy would say at a party like i'm trying to fuck you

there's just like are you brushing my hair back i'm more of like a statesman philosopher like you focusing and poet if you will okay sir thank you all right all right all right all right oh yeah i don't know well this is i mean only from that last poll only 25 percent of texans were like yeah yeah yeah maybe maybe maybe i mean it doesn't seem like the right state for that sort of thing either like i mean he i know he's from texas and like is a proud texan that texans are proud of but i do feel like there's a there's also like maybe mayor of austin would work but yeah i feel like yeah you know he reminds me of man he reminds me of somebody like joining a random club and thinking they have it all figured out and you just feel like oh yeah that kid is so naive he doesn't know what he's stepping into it's like if you actually think about what people vote on

and like how they vote they rarely they rarely look at like trying to solve the the problems that we have they're just like thinking of the one issue they care about most and they're like well how does this politician think about this one issue how do they care what do they think about taxes and they're just going to vote how does this politician think about this one issue? How do they care? What do they think about taxes? And they're just going to vote whoever is going to make their taxes cheaper. Or, you know, there's some people who are single issue voters on like abortion and only abortion, you know? So it's like, ah, I don't know, man. I don't know how many people are really convinced that politics can be redeemed and that there can be a, like a utopia America where people,

politicians aren't slimy scumbags. It's like, that sounds great. That sounds nice. I think everybody who gets into politics might think that at some point, but then you get there, then you saw just like people doing favors for each other. And it's like,

people, I don't know. It's not that clean. I got involved right when Obama was running running and i was like here we go so this is this lobbying firm and i'm like yeah bro we're gonna help get this fucking health care shit and then you're like wait who's paying my wait who cuts my checks and i'm like wait we work for this industry what the fuck and then i'm like no dude i can't i can't keep doing this shit this is like but very idealistic because you have this belief you're like yeah if this is like the right amount

of people but you're playing a rigged game and so until you can like change the rules there's not much that can be done so i think that's why the emphasis really needs to be a little bit people need to zoom out a little bit more and be like it's not just the people that you get in there like it's fundamentally you're sending them into the terror dome. So there's pretty much only one outcome. Yeah. Any one of these like experienced politicians will just eat him alive, man. And they're just going to get him to say what they want him to say on like the condition they help him with something else.

And that's just how politics works behind the scenes. You know, even someone like AOC who everybody is like, she's the only principled one i see it all the time people believe that right and then you see that she's like voting absent on something she really has very strong wait hold on where are you on that iron dome funding ma right and she's just gonna just sit quietly because she feels like she has to so right i don't know i'm like yo just flame out do you and they vote you out, then go out a legend because you could probably come right back in. But like it's but there aren't many politicians who are willing to go. No, I'll fuck. I'll I'll ride this shit till the fucking wheels blow off and I'm voted the fuck out.

And yeah, when you start seeing people triangulate and do shit like that, you're like, oh, you're become you're you're understanding the hill a little bit and you're trying to survive the hill you're doing hill survival moves i do wonder what the like there there were all these uh stolen facebook numbers that indicated to bannon and you know whatever that data firm was that they're that america yeah cambridge analytica that america was like ripe for an outsider candidate like i think it was a couple years before the presidential election and that's why they backed trump kind of reluctantly i i wonder what those types of numbers say about the country now because it does seem like we're still kind of you, disillusioned with politics as it currently exists.

But we're also disillusioned with the presidency of the outsider that they chose last time. So I don't know. I'd be curious. That's what I was going to say. Hack Facebook. I was like, here's all the ways that Bernie could still win. Like, this is how you do it. Right.

I'm one of those people, too, where I'm just like so jaded. And I get why people say they don't want to vote because it feels like we don't really have, like, we don't get to choose. We want to vote. We get to vote against the person we don't want. And that's just the system we have. And it sucks, but that's what the situation is, trying to convince someone to vote with you because you know that this person isn't perfect. It's like all the people who wanted Biden. And it was the purpose was to get Trump out. Right. Yeah. I hope I'm not like shattering anyone's reality by saying that. But that's really why I wanted Biden.

And I was like, yo, Trump is going to kill us all. And I don't want to end up on a list because he like floated that idea about Muslims. I was like, I got to get this guy out of here before he starts doing that. And, you know, that's the baseline. That's where we're starting. And so when you have someone like Matthew McConaughey come in and say like, look, I can fix this. It's like really you're not selling us on anything new. You're coming in and you're going to say, I'm going to be the right person.

That's what they all say. And then they come in and then something happens. And then now all of a sudden Guantanamo is not getting close. And now all of a sudden we're going to do healthcare, but it's going to look like this. It's not going to be free. It's everybody's making compromises. Everybody's making compromises because they have that one issue they got to get through. So I don't know. I'd almost rather him come in and say, look, we got to fix the wealth gap and everything I'm going to talk about, I'm going to bring back to the wealth gap. Exactly. That's a serious strategy.

That would be amazing. Yeah. All the pain you're feeling is because of inequality. So that's what I'm here for. Every spin. Watch, say any topic right now, I'll bring it right back to inequality for you. Yeah.

Fucking anything, go. And no one talks like that. I mean, that's the other thing is that i think just the way people are communicating too it's still like this hybrid of like old gate beltway talk but also just like with trying to be somewhat more conversational when really people seem to speak directly at the ills and how to solve them but everyone's different because then someone's like this person just hates amer. It's like, no, I'm identifying issues and they're fucked. But McConaughey might be like, I can fix it, man.

Unlike a Buick Enclave to 2021 that will not ever need any fixing because with their 72-month warranty and 0% APR financing for qualified borrowers, I mean, we're looking at a new adventure, Buick. His sales pitch is always like, I saw a moose running across. Yeah, right. It's just so wild. They said Encore, the Buick Encore GX. Your point on people voting for Biden because he was against Trump is interesting. I may be in the minority here. I actually voted for Biden based on the art of his son, Hunter.

But I don't know. That's a sensitive man. He raised that artist. Yeah, exactly. We need more news articles about the people who voted for Biden only for Trump. Right. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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that you've actually seen evidence of if you saw or heard Joe Rogan talk about how he thought that Joe Biden didn't actually get the booster shot and that that was like a fake booster shot that he got. Oh, right. Because he might have freaked out on camera. Yeah. He was like, he could die. He could have died of the of the reaction. He could die. So that is actually was first forwarded by a bunch of people who think that Joe Biden has built a fake soundstage on which he appears and pretends to be in the White House. And they use this evidence where he is photographed

in front of windows that have projections of the Rose Garden on them. And they are like, this is clearly a sound stage he isn't actually the president we are watching a movie with a fake president and donald trump is the real president is what uh one q anon one q anon thought leader claimed other people are just using it as like sort of a broad like jack uh posobiec is calling it the Truman Show presidency, which quickly got pulled, bubbled up onto Fox News, where it was, quote, Truman Show presidency. Biden ridiculed for using fake White House set. And first of all, that's their hearts. That's published on Fox News.

Those words out. What do they even mean? What is that article even? I'm sorry, I'm still hung up on the thing that you're saying people are using as evidence that there was was he actually were there actual projections of the Rose Garden in a window? Or are they mistaking the fact that like the windows there are like so bulletproof, like it distorts things when you look through it no no so there is a building in the white house complex where lots of presidents have had made appearances he is doing most of his appearances from there because it is a bigger room than the rooms in the white house and apparently and i haven't confirmed this but we are in the middle of a global fucking pandemic and so they don't want a lot of people like a you know press swarm of a swarm of press people in the same room as our like 95 year old president during a global pandemic and so it's

like this big kind of room in the eisenhower executive office building connected to the white house the press is fully, like there are many photographs that show that it is just a backdrop. Like the faux White House aesthetic was created for the global coronavirus summit, but it's in no way looks like, would fool anyone.

And in fact, the projection in the window had the words built back better floating in the middle of it which should have been a non dead giveaway but that's because kamala's a witch uh-huh yeah yeah he's everywhere whoops yeah there's so many pictures where it's clearly uh he's in an auditorium for policy announcement because it's bigger and he's not trying to die from the pandemic and he's not trying to kill a bunch of press people from the pandemic and it's just so easy to fact check like fox news knows it's laughably bullshit yeah like untrue because they are invited to these events they're in that motherfucking room yeah they're there yeah they're right there they know nobody's trying to pull one over on them

but they can report on i mean this kind of ties into the theme of the episode they can report on the social media response which makes it like technically true despite the fact that the response happens to be a bunch of bullshit and they know it dude have you have you scrolled down to look at the comments on the fox news website dude there's so much despair going on someone's like i feel like we're living in a simulation things are just getting more bizarre by the day someone else is like i can see this coming from a mile away biden's approval ranking is falling oh my god man they believe it they believe this i mean i mean i think he's in a bunker the q anon kind of conspiracy theory is funny because

one person's like if in case you needed any more proof, you are definitely watching a movie with a fake president. Look no further. And then he said, I challenge you to find me one picture like this while Trump was at the White House. I'll wait. And it's like, no, they built that for this other thing. But also somebody like a QAnon

believer was like, but so who, if Trump is still president, who's making all these terrible decisions that we disagree with they were shut up you fucking yeah they didn't say i'll win but uh i do think that that uh raises some interesting questions for right like go just i mean look if if you can see the fucking matrix then explain explain the fucking matrix. Don't just go, we are watching a movie right now, folks. Yeah. And who is producing the film and for what goal exactly?

And so it really, I think that's what's so, I think alarming, you know, is the energy, the mental energy spend that's going into saying things out loud. It was like, no, man, we're watching a movie. This is all fake, man. Like that's a that should be a really scary place to be more than thinking that Trump isn't the president. But OK, go on. Yeah. They need to believe that he's both like weak and asleep and doesn't know what's going on, but also has like this elaborate conspiracy where he's pulled the wool over everyone's eyes and he's just pulling levers behind the scenes as this country. who is kind of part of the media like where you think we're headed in terms of like trump running again and you know what what support for him is going to look like and you know what what are the vibes within uh vibe check with mac quick vibe check uh what do you do you think like he he had that um rally over the weekend but that like seems to indicate he's going to do it again but like

how do you like how are you thinking about it right now i mean yeah anybody any reporter who was paying close attention to trump during his whole regime the last four years it it feels like we haven't had a break yet which is crazy but i mean it's obvious to anyone that he doesn't even know what he's doing yet and that right now he's testing the waters. He's dropping a little, a couple of hints and seeing how people react. He's waiting for the polling to get back in because he's so terrified of the embarrassment of the humiliation of announcing that he's running again. And most people not getting behind him.

You know, he's not going to run unless he knows for sure that every Republican congressman is not going to either not going to run against him or get steamrolled by him. He needs to know for sure before he, he risks his brand like that. And, you know, that's kind of how he was president. You know, it's, it's hard for me to believe that he had some big mystifying plan and the whole thing was set up to push America in a certain direction. He doesn't know it. He doesn't know what he's doing. Right. Right.

He's sort of doing it day by day and shooting from the hip. Yeah. Trying to just see like what, what's going to please the MAGAverse the most, what's going to make them the most engaged and the most excited for the next election cycle or whatever. So that's, that's what's going on right now in Mar-a-Lago. He's sitting around asking his yes man is now the right time.

Should I do it? What are people saying? How do I know for sure? And I'm sure he's getting it from both sides. There's that poll that came out that showed that only 44% of Republicans want Trump to run in 2024. So who knows how that poll is going to change between now and it becomes time for him to announce or if that time is going to happen. Because say that number goes down, that can probably indicate to us that it's not going to happen. The number goes up, I think it's going to indicate that he will. So that's where he's at.

But on the other hand, you know, I think he wants to run mostly because he's still trying to get on Twitter. He's still trying to have some sort of White House prestige that he's holding on to. We saw that when he was doing his like random press releases where he was like typing in all caps. It's still him wanting to be president. He wants people to care about what he thinks in the same way that Tucker Carlson wants people to care about what he thinks. It's crazy. He should honestly just disappear and be glad that he had the run. And who knows if he disappears forever, his reputation might improve based on how bad people think of a job that Joe Biden's doing or whoever's going to come next. Maybe it's DeSantis or whoever. It rehabilitated George Bush's reputation. So my take is this, he should disappear. He won't because right he needs people to know what he's up to and he needs them to think that he's got a plan when he doesn't i feel like his kind of disappearance to this point has been helpful

to him because those numbers that you know 44 support him running again like i think it's two-thirds of republicans think he should like be involved like heavily in in the future of the party and like that's up i think 20 from january 6 so it's like moving in the right direction for him with with him being artificially silenced and it'll be interesting like once he's able to figure out how to start spouting off again. Yeah. Dude, January 6th is the perfect indicator for this, man. Because when January 6th happened, there was this sweep of consciousness that was just running wild through the Republican Party.

And you had loyalists like Nikki Haley saying, we've gone too far and we need to reel it back. But just this week, she was on TV saying that January 6th didn't happen and that racism doesn't exist in this country. And so the more time we have between January 6th and the Trump presidency and now, I think the MAGAverse is going to romanticize how good they had it when Trump was running. Even though they had all when Trump was running, even though they had the, the all three branches of the government, but still weren't able to do anything because

they don't really have a plan, but they're still going to romanticize it and think, well, damn, we had everything. The country was on track. The economy was booming. And then as soon as they're, the Democrats took over, it all went to shit. So they're going to tell themselves what they need to, And as soon as the Democrats took over, it all went to shit. So they're going to tell themselves what they need to, to imagine Trump is like this hero. And, you know, you ever see like the Trump flags of him as Rambo with these like huge arms and stuff like that's going to become that's that's going to be what they remember of Trump. So, yeah, yeah. If he stays quiet, it's a problem. When you when I look at the polling, right, almost a third say he should not remain a major political figure right among republicans and 22 said they would support another presidential

candidate that shared his values to me i see more of like a schism there where i think the people who are like like newly minted conservative wonks i guess think like no man like we're not going to be able to win with Trump. Like that's clear. Like if we really want to go full steam with this like fascist, ethno nationalist agenda, then it has to be someone else. And it seems like if that's people's aims, there's on some level, they understand that it energizes people to be against Trump. So if they're thinking about it that way, it's like we like someone with the same fucked up core beliefs, just not that brand brand because that's going to be harder to win

but then you know there's also a lot of like operatives and uh people that he consults with apparently the reporting is that like many of them are saying wait till after the fucking midterms because the second you start going out there saying like i'm gonna run and shit it may fuck up everything and there are definitely people who believe that so i mean on some level there's is like this sort of half reckoning with trying to understand like from a purely electoral strategical standpoint what does it mean to have trump anywhere near an election but then they're clearly there's 44 who are watching a movie right now with a fake president i hope he's shook enough by the people who booed him for getting the vaccine that he just like loses it like chapelle and like just can't focus on anything else but like the

people who disagree with him and like his starts, uh, you know, focusing on that. Oh, that even the MAGA people like, like old Chappelle fans, like, damn, he used to have it, man. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. He just won't stop talking about this fucking, this election. And just focuses only on like the one piece of negative feedback that he's gotten in 10 years. And like, that becomes all he talks about or however,

he just loses whatever confidence and like pocket he was in with the mega thing but i think like anything if like that you're gonna kick you're gonna purge those people who are making you feel those icky things yeah yeah you know yeah i just really want trump jr to run so that just so we can watch him do this whole campaign and not get his own dad's endorsement. He really wouldn't. He fucking wouldn't, man. He completely fucks it up for him. He's like, I'll be honest, I mean, he's completely unproven.

He's an amateur. He's a lightweight. He's a lightweight. Total lightweight, that kid. His puny stick arms. Ask him to roll up his sleeves next time you see him. Check out his tricep definition. Nothing.

No Christmas hands. Santa's horseshoes back there. Big old horseshoe triceps. All right, let's talk really briefly about deep fakes. Justin Bieber was fooled by a Tom Cruise deep fake. I know this isn't like the CIA being fooled. Bieber's not our sharpest celebrity but canada's we're not claiming it right okay sorry america north america's sharpest

celebrity but i find it's still interesting because it's someone who wields immense power online like fooled for multiple hours even created a video so it was like a video of tom cruise like playing the guitar tom cruise from like 20 years ago because he looked like way younger than he does now and it was very convincing and beaver was like whoa you're shredding but like i still can apparently he's like offered to fight tom like box tom cruise so like there was some of that it became a thing and then people were like hey man that's that's a that's from an account called deep Tom Cruise like do you it's a deep pick but you know 60 minutes did a report yesterday where they like it was about this it talked to a bunch of experts who are like this is going to be the biggest story of the next like 10 years when it comes to media and it wasn't like somebody who

just invented like a new technology trying to like boost it was just like somebody who pays attention to disinformation for a living but the thing 60 minutes did with it was they de-aged the reporter by 30 years which is like a suspiciously cool thing for the reporter using this like cutting edge technology to make him like look more fuckable. Right. He's like, damn, I look good, right? Damn, this guy can get it, huh? Catfish the whole news media.

That's wild. Right. Yeah. But anyways, it's just the expert from the 60 Minutes report, the CIA, the FBI all seem pretty confident that in else has, but like, it does seem like it could easily be used to just completely fuck everything up. I mean, it's all it takes is just a fucking fake quote from someone. Right. And even if it's debunked, you know, kind of like just the momentum that people already

have going in this country. It's like, well, if I want to believe that about the person, like, I don't give a shit because then people would be like, yeah, but he would say something like that. It's like what someone's rebuttal might be like. That's not real. Like that's actually not really like, yeah, but either way, either way, not either way. Yeah. Yeah. No, no.

My God. I just got chills from that. Yeah. Either way. No, not fucking either way. Then just tell me what the two ways are and tell me why that you're still not fucking disturbed or alarmed. Right. But yeah, I mean, that's where I feel like that's like the low. I feel like the lowest hanging fruit before we see something like, you know, Trump, like, you know, doing what messy one V one, like with a soccer ball or something.

Right. I'd love to see that, though. Or like Fauci, like talking about the conspiracy behind the vaccine or something right i'd love to see that though or like fauci like talking about the conspiracy behind the vaccine or something i could definitely see that doing this almost feels like if yeah like crank callers and we're running the show behind the scenes and like what we were seeing was all just like crank call after crank call like there's like that stupid video that ruled my childhood it was like that you kicked my dog thing her paw so like that to me was like a fake thing that didn't matter it because it was like funny but now it feels like that's gonna be the standard and that's what people are gonna be like putting money behind because they want to like grassroots create like movements and so I don't know know, man, it's really, it's really sketchy. I just saw this

all like, non binary, universal, progressive looking ad on on the internet that was all about, like, making abortion illegal and protecting the Republicans from passing that law in Texas. And it was like, I'm non binary, I'm LGBT, I'm this, and I support banning abortion. You know, it's like, we're just going to have to get used to that of where people are just going to be putting whatever because they think that that's what you want to see. Or they think that that's like the shortcut to actually creating a movement. Right. And it's going to work. It's going to work.

That's the funny part. That's the funny part. Right. I'm a non-binary asian person i support fema camps put political dissidents it's like wait what the fuck is this huh i don't know i figured that the messenger was the important part no no there's still some value i'm still coming to grips with the fact that the racist prank call Paul, kick my dog is fake. Apparently, Kerr Paul never said those things.

The future is an Arnold Schwarzenegger soundboard prank call. Is that the original deep fake? You idiot. I hope you leave enough room for my fist because I'm going to ram it in your stomach. I will. Bye. This is the switchboard at the Gator Lodge. Governor, what are you talking about?

I love that shit. How are you? Oh, man. Eamon, it's been a pleasure having you, as always. Where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter, Eamon.com spelled A-Y-M-A and then D-O-T-C-O-N. I just dropped a new podcast, uh, amen.com spelled a YMA and then D O T C O N. I just dropped a new podcast though.

If you like the sound of my voice, it's called scoot over. It's interviews with people who have created spaces for themselves in industries that have traditionally asked them out. So, you know, really dope interviews with like a plus size model who now does ads for like target a woman graffiti writer who started doing graffiti at a time

where women were not allowed to in a lot of ways and now she's doing fashion designer stuff a lot of dope interviews and of course you get to hear my silky smooth voice on it so Plus-plus. Yeah. Yeah, and is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? I think I have to give the award to a tweet I hate but it's so funny because of what happened afterwards It was a tweet by Josh Mandel of Ohio. I think he's running. He never won a race, but he's there. He takes Twitter bio. Oh my God. I just looked at it. It says first statewide official in Ohio to support president Trump. Oh my God. The cringe. Anyways, I was a Trump fan before. Oh, my God. Cool, bro.

That's a cool identity you have. Anyways, he tweeted, by advancing the live critical race theory, the liberals are stomping on the grave of Martin Luther King. And so he got, quote, tweeted by Bernice King, who runs the account Be A King, which you should follow, by the way, because all she does is beat up on Republicans for using, uh, Martin Luther King. She says, uh, dear Josh, Josh Mandel, Ohio, I invite you. If you truly desire to advance the cause of humanity towards true peace, the study of my father's teachings of full and in context, he was not a drum major for a colorblind society, but for justice, which requires truth about our past and present, which if that wasn't enough, Josh Mandel was like, I want more. He tweeted back and he was basically like, no, actually, that's not what your dad stood for.

Actually, um, actually, oh no. He did that. And, uh, it was just hilarious. It was a great day for Twitter. Honestly. Uh, there were most days where I'm scrolling and I'm like, why am I doing this? Why do I have this app? And then you see something like that and it's like, that's why.

That's why Twitter exists. Miles, where can we find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram at Miles of Grey. Also the other show for 20 Day Fiance. Talking 90 Day with Sophia Alexandra. So stop by for some larps, some tweets that I like.

The first one is from at Joe Schiappa, S C H I A P P A. It says six year old son points at Gatorade in store fridge. Jonah at camp was telling me about the blue Gatorade. Me, you are not drinking Gatorade six year old. I didn't say I want to drink it. I just heard about it. Pause. Then quietly just want to taste the drinking Gatorade six year old I didn't say I want to drink it I just heard about

it then quietly just want to taste the blue let him taste the blue man come on fuck his whole life up just tell me another one is a quote tweet from at garbage ape so

quote tweeting an article from the hill where it's like a it's like a clothing rack of like you know nazi uniforms it says three million euros worth of nazi memorabilia found in alleged pedophiles home and then garbage ape said thanks for including alleged so this person's reputation isn't ruined that's great you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien a couple tweets i've been enjoying lewis vertel tweeted i miss bomb themes like nobody does it better and all-time high they should sound like lately horny coffee commercials i thought it was perfect and then then Ify Wadiwe had a great thread. In this thread, I judge which slasher's ass I could kick.

Number one, Ghostface from Scream. Off rip, Skeet Ulrich. Ghostface is getting washed completely. Matthew Lillard, however I have concerns. Man's a 6'4 and built like a total unit, but the robes mess with his agility, and in the end, I'll win. And then he goes through, and some he doesn't win jason borges for clarity we're talking human jason

so it's fair but to be honest jason's world has the horniest women no way i won't be caught lacking in some cheeks i lose he could kick chucky's ass, Norman Bates. You say that now. Yeah, but lose to Pinhead. That's the kind of transparency we need in Texas. Yes. Right. Thank you.

Thank you. He even defeats Jaws, which is... Go to the thread to find out how. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes.

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