The Daily Zeitgeist - X Marks The ROT, Oppenheimer Omissions 07.26.23

Episode Date: July 26, 2023

In episode 1521, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, Kiki Andersen, to discuss… X Rebrand Going V Well, Glenn Beck and the Inevitability of the Rightwing Mental Boomerang, The Other Tragedy ‘Oppenheimer’ Completely Glosses Over and more! SuperFreak Dubner Embraces ‘Climategate’ Swiftboating: ‘Everybody’s Scared To Be A Skeptic’ Christopher Nolan’s Martyrdom of Saint Oppenheimer Civilian Displacement: Los Alamos, NM Nuclear Nuevo MéxicoColonialism and the Effects of the Nuclear Industrial Complex on Nuevomexicanos In the Shadow of Oppenheimer ‘Oppenheimer’ extols atomic bomb triumph but ignores health effects on those living near test site ‘People have been dying ever since’: Anger mixes with hope for NM Downwinders Biden extends radiation compensation fund, but NM Downwinders still seek help US senators seek expanded compensation for those exposed to nuclear fallout LISTEN: You've Got A Woman by LionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 297, episode 2 of... Two Daily Zeitgeist! Yay! ...production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take, I guess you could say say a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. Yeah. It's Wednesday, July 26, 2023. Uh-oh.

Uh-oh. You know what that means? It is National Coffee Milkshake Day, National Bagel Fest Day, National All or Nothing Day, National Aunt and Uncle's Day. Shout out to the aunties out there. I don't say aunt. I say aunt. I don't know. Are you an auntie? Are you an aunt?

I think it's situational. I grew up in different places and some of them were aunts and some of them were aunts. I think I call all of my aunts, aunts. I'm like Aunt Carolyn, Aunt Betty. Because that's what when I was very young, that's how I'm like Aunt Carolyn, Aunt Betty. Because that's what, when I was

very young, that's what I, how I was pronouncing it. But then, definitely went through an aunt phase. Oh, I stay there. Never left. Never left. Also, shout out, it's National Disability Independence Day. So, full of celebrations, July 27th.

I like whoever the dramatic motherfucker is who made it national all or nothing day. Dude, the fucking picture on the website is a guy tightrope walking across like a chasm. It's like, oh shit, man, I could fucking die, man. It's all or nothing, babe.

So, yeah, I guess that's what you're supposed to do. Just go all in. Don't hesitate. Just be confident. Happy all or nothing. i think that's good advice for the modern world just go all in you know strong and wrong it seems like that's working out well for all of us my name is jack o'brien aka you don't know what that fish should taste like dude you don't have the first clue which sw fruit. Ain't no particular taste. I'm betting you'll ever guess.

But it's lingonberry fruit in your fish. That is courtesy of Scotty Magoo on the Discord. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Oh, my God. It's Miles Gray. Shout out to the Lord of Lancashire, the peacekeeper of Pasadena for preventing full out brawls at the Rose Bowl. That is my AKA coming off that last weekend. I'm still I was telling you this after recording.

I'm still affected by all that shit that was popping off in the stands. Anyway, thanks for having me. See an adult's unresolved shit like fucking up their kids' lives in real time at very important developmental stages can be difficult. Yeah, yeah.

I hope in that child's formative memory he remembers me as the person that helped his father become just overly violent at a sporting event and i wonder if his dad's like if that one dude didn't freaking stop me i would have stomped him out don't be like that guy son i told you about how i have that one kid who i imprinted on at like a very young age because it was when like i my job was pool boy and also like unofficial lifeguard

and i like jumped in his tiny pool. I just like waited over to him and pulled him out while he was drowning. And his mom like chose not to jump in when he was like, I was like, is he okay? Can he swim? Is that just a funny way that he swims? And then like, I saw her like two days later, she's like, he won't stop talking about you. And he was like a real like violent kid like that i i was like noticing like he was like stopping his little sister's like dolls on the

head and shit oh wow so i'm just i feel like i'm on borrowed time and that kid's gonna show up at my door like uh anton sugar at some point in the next 10 years and just be like hey friend jack that boy was me no oh my god anyways miles we are thrilled to be joined by an emmy award-winning comedian and the host of the new podcast indecent where she talks to experts about what is and isn't considered acceptable in today's society who sets the boundaries for today's taboos please welcome to the show kiki anderson thank you so much for joining us you're an emmy award-winning journalist correct and and you're classing the join up by by coming over here i like what what what made you transition

from journalism to comedy i'm always interested when people have like i went i was a lobbyist and then was like i want to do comedy so i'm always interested when people are like yeah i did that got my enemy i got my emmy now i'm doing comedy yeah well you know journalism is a hard tough industry and so i decided to go to comedy because it's notoriously easy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah of course of course at least the laughs at least everyone's laughing together when things are going bad in comedy i guess then watching like a newspaper or publication yeah and i like getting paid nothing like it's good so you know journalism comedy it's all the same yeah yeah it's exposure exposure yeah entry-level comedy is like a pretty great track to be on parents are always

impressed and you know they're they're like oh that's great and so what do you be making next year and the year after that it is funny though that it's like the same things like where you see like interns who are like how are you able to be an intern at the new york times and then get a job it's like well my parents are like bankrolling that it's the same way there's like comedians who are like the secret trust fund comedians are like, how are you out here without working ever? It's like, oh yeah,

yeah, yeah, secret wealth. Yeah. It's actually easy. I do think there's comedians who like secretly work but they don't want people

to think they're not full-time comedians. I'm like, you have to be doing something during the day, right? Right. You're not touring.

What's that at a gig? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. I'm a professor okay cats out of god this is so embarrassing i'm a uh philosophy phd and a professor yo you see like exposure i was at this thing where like a comedy club was like a presenting sponsor of like a, like a jazz in the park day. And part of it was like, Hey, just so you know, like, I guess their thing was like, as the jazz bands would kind of take a break, like a promoter from the comedy club would come out and try and get people like, he's like, yeah, you know, a lot of people are stressed these days.

You know, what's good laughter. Come on down to the club. We got a lot of great comedians. Actually want to give you a taste. Now this guy's coming up. His name's Robertbert he does a lot of stuff for us at the comedy club but he's now doing a little bit some open mic stuff and i said he can come up real quick give you guys a couple jokes just to give you guys a taste the jokes were almost made me die though this is the one i will tell you i will i remember word for word he came up and goes hey so and like his whole style was like kind of mitch headberg-y, sort of like, I don't give a fuck, monotone. Perfect for that scenario. Yeah, exactly.

When someone's so dead, he's like, hey, so I've been reading some J.K. Rowling lately. J.K. Wow. And then everyone was doing anything, and I groaned, but in the funny, I was like, ooh!

Fingers! Yeah, yeah yeah yeah so i was like you know we all got to get it in where we can so respect to that to that joke at least he didn't go somewhere transphobic where they just kind of made a just a weird play on jk that guy's gonna be Yeah, that joke did distract me from the impending climate catastrophe for a moment. Yeah, exactly. As promised. All right, Kiki, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about how the X rebrand of Twitter is going V well. We're going to talk about Glenn Beck's new book and like the inevitable right wing mental boomerang.

And also, I like I was intrigued by the cover. I don't know if I fell into the Glenn Beck trap, but the cover of the book has three three men on it. It has Bill Gates, Joe Biden flanking somebody who nobody knows who it is. Marlon Brando from the Island of Dr. Moreau. It looks like Marlon Brando from the Island of Dr. Moreau crossed with like Rupert Murdoch, maybe. Yeah, yeah. That's what I thought of Murdoch.

But it's Klaus Schwab, one of the leaders of the IMF, that they were like, this gonna move some copies oh hell so but we'll talk about that theory we'll talk about the uh some of the tragedies that oppenheimer completely glosses over oh like that like it's an atom bomb yeah yeah like that one all of that yeah yeah plenty more but first kiki we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history well it's pretty dark are you ready yeah let's go okay yeah it's not even noon yet let's go yeah let me just think about that jk rowling joke real quick okay i'm

ready get to a good place so i can bring you down yeah so my last week in news uh i tried to pitch this story that we never were able to do because we didn't get a call back. But I was living and working in Baltimore at the time. And the, like, beloved giraffe at the zoo died. And I wanted to know what they do with zoo animals when they die. Like, do they have a giraffe funeral? Do they bury them? Is there a giraffe graveyard? Like, what happens to them?

And we never got a call back. And it's been bothering me for years. So very recently, I Googled it. And apparently, they all get cremated. But not for reasons that you might think. They get cremated so that people can't sell their body parts, like, on the black market. Oh, right. And get, like, a giraffe skeleton.

You're like, nobody's getting this skelly. Right. If we can't have it you can't either wow that is so selfish i want to buy a giraffe skeleton that's uh you must have very tall ceilings in your apartment do they have horns what's the shit on the top of their head yeah some, some of them have those little guys. Antennas for Wi-Fi. Oh, yeah, 5G. Yeah, yeah, because they have ears and nubs too, right? Mm-hmm. Okay, that's my stupid question that I want to contribute to this discussion about giraffe anatomy.

Giraffe head knobs. We'll see what comes up. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Yeah. Oh, okay. And where can I buy them? Baltimore Zoo. Yeah, exactly. Google giraffe ossicones for sale.

So, wait. Did you Google the shopping tab of Google? Or did you go image results? Actually, on Facebook Marketplace. They're very friendly to the black market. Right. Wait. So, at the time when you were covering that story,

did the giraffe just kind of pass away due to natural causes? It wasn't like a dubious or suspicious death, was it? Yeah, fentanyl is really infiltrating the zoo. Yeah. No, I think he just died of natural causes. Actually, okay, wait. On that same subject, do you guys know this famous hippo, Fiona, is at, I think, Cincinnati Zoo?

I am not. No. I'm not familiar. Okay. Yes. Okay, go on. Hippo content is huge on the internet. Fiona is a celeb.

And apparently, that's the same zoo that Harambe was shot at. So they've just done this whole rebrand with this hippo. And I'm like, no, you can't get away from your dark past. Ooh, yeah. Wow. Cincinnati. So are they just like cranking out stars at the Cincinnati Zoo or something? Apparently they got a really good PR team.

Yeah, yeah. For real. When I Google Cincinnati Zoo hippo, I see that they're mourning the loss of henry the hippo back in 2017 oh 2017 okay well they probably killed him yeah father of famous fiona oh fiona's father oh you hate to see it you hate to see it they're kind of setting us up for disaster because hippos are you know they they will kill a motherfucker like real they're they're very deadly in the right circumstances so that was like my one little kid like annoying factoid i would say like hippos are actually the most dangerous like if like to humans it's not this or that but yeah it's what they do

it's what they do besides mosquitoes that's my kid's favorite fact right now you know the deadliest animal is mosquitoes because you're going very narrow for like blood-borne illnesses yeah okay which fucks my younger kid up because he gets a lot of mosquito bites he's got that sweet sweet blood that the mosquitoes crave yeah yeah so nothing you can do Sitting in bed waiting for mosquitoes to come and bite you to death. He doesn't like he doesn't fuck with him. Be like, oh, you know, like you could get you know what you could get from that. I think he does. Like when we're not around.

Ah, it would be my guess. Yes. The fact that my youngest hair has turned completely white. Second word was Zika. Yeah. What is something kinky that you think is overrated? my youngest's hair has turned completely white. His second word was Zika. Yeah, exactly. What is something, Kiki, that you think is overrated? Something that is overrated?

I think that in the year of our Lord, 2023, we should be allowed to put our elbows on the table when we're eating. I think that this is a stupid rule that we're still abiding by. And I looked it up, and the reason is because apparently our tabletops used to be on logs, so if you put your elbows on the table it would like flip the whole table over but like that's not a problem anymore so i think we should be more rude when

we're having dinner wait the the etiquette of elbows on the table was born out of eating off a floppy logs what the fuck i just thought okay yeah i mean it's funny how quickly i started i just had my elbows on the table like i think once my mom or like like my grandmother gave up on trying to get give me any sense of etiquette but damn okay i know i mean that makes sense if you flip the table and get dinner all over somebody's lap that's super rude but like that's not a risk anymore what is yeah i guess what is it like eating a hamburger with your elbows flip the table and get dinner all over somebody's lap, that's super rude. But like, that's not a risk anymore. What is? Yeah, I guess.

What is it like eating a hamburger with your elbows on the table kind of thing? Just having or just having a wide base with like your fork and knife with elbows. I'm just trying to give I'm just trying to put myself at the table right now and figure how I'm. Yeah, I'll eat a sandwich like this with my elbows just barely. Like I'm in my 30s. My back hurts. Let me put my elbows on the table. Yeah, it's probably a sandwich like this with my elbows just buried. Right, like I'm in my 30s. My back hurts. Let me put my elbows on the table. Yeah.

It's probably like good for core strength not to have them on there, but also we need a rest in the fear of our Lord 2023. My head is heavy. Yeah. You're literally holding it up. Yeah. Please, please stay with us. What's something you think is underrated?

Something I think is underrated is saying less. I feel like the pendulum has swung too far the other way. Like we got too in our feelings as society. We're like too vulnerable. We're too, we're using like too much therapy speak, Jonah Hill. But this all comes from, I recently saw on TikTok this trend called crying girl makeup, where girls are doing their makeup to make it look like they've been crying. And I'm like, we got we got to stop.

We got to stop fetishizing being sad. That's not good. Right. Is that just to have like kind of like red, irritated eyes with like vague memories of mascara or something? Pretty much. That's exactly right. and like they're kind of shiny like you might have pink eye or you might have been crying right is that this is where i'm like old i'm like is and that's and that's appealing now

yeah i mean i don't know like i'm 31 so i remember when on zanga people were posting like emo semi-suicidal song lyrics. But I think we should have stopped there. Like we don't need to be making ourselves look like we've been crying. We have plenty of things to actually cry about. Yeah, exactly. Like let your band t-shirts announce like your mental state. You know, that's like I remember, you know, like the goth kids are really good at just being like, oh, I can tell from your vibe.

You probably were crying, but you're not. You don't have it on your face. Yeah, when I picture crying girl makeup, I picture streaks of dark eye makeup. But the image results seem more like pink-eyed with shiny, glossy cheeks. Right. And I do think we should fetishize pink eye. Like, let's do that instead of fetishizing sad eyes. Pink eye makeup. Staple a cocky? Wait, what is it called? What do you call it? What's pink eye actually called's do that instead of criticizing pink eye makeup wait what is it called what is it what do you call it what's pink eye actually called is that a

bukkake what no no no is that what he said conjunctivitis it's fart bukkake fart no i was like thinking of a staph infection yeah but no yeah yeah yeah did you ever get i never got pink eye so maybe i should start fetishizing it because it's just one of those things that's always been out of reach for me. Or maybe I should just like fart. Have somebody fart in your eye? Yeah. Have my face farted on more often. Yeah.

You can get someone to do that on Craigslist like pretty easily, actually. I mean. Pretty cheap. Surprisingly cheap. I mean, with a newborn, with a new baby, baby you know i think if i just time it right i could probably just get a direct one to the face anyway yeah yeah hey you never know you never know all right well let's take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll talk about some news fantasy football fans the nfl season is here and now is the time to get ready to dominate your leagues.

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Yeah. He's doing work. He's putting in the work. It's weird because it feels like it was by design from the beginning. He's like, I'm in phase three. But all it is is just him not hearing no from anyone at all. Yeah. For the past 20 years of his life. Here we 20 years we are yeah yeah x.com is not

doing great apparently there's already problems within hours of announcing that you know it's x.com for starters like just just you know x.com x many derivations of that have already been trademarked by literally hundreds of companies including meta and microsoft so many people are like yeah i'm expecting lawsuits probably around this and their ability to use that as a brand and then we also found out that like when they tried to take the fucking bird logos off their headquarters in san francisco the police just shut the whole thing down because they didn't have permits to like be operating like the heavy machinery you needed like to work on the exterior of the building and yeah and it's just kind of like those are like the little problems and now we're also finding out that musk has changed the names

of the conference rooms to shit like sexy but like with like the like a capitalized x or like exposure uh e capital x p-o-s-u- R E. And many people are right to point out like, let's not forget he was accused of groping and exposing himself to a flight attendant that he basically got to put them on mute because of a big cash settlement. And that is other companies. Like we hear nonstop reports of like how it's like toxic sexist culture, the places like Tesla. So I'd imagine, yeah, going into meet me in sexy for a talk. I'm sure it won't lead to any kind of complications if there even is HR at Twitter right now. I'm sure he got all of them to quit like right away.

That seems to be phase zero of the plan. Yeah, 100 percent. Is it called tweeting now or is it called X-ing? That's we don't fucking know i think i mean all out of habit we're all calling it tweeting but this is this leads to the next point is that because we're like they're abandoning all that brand familiarity of like twitter and erasing sort of the word tweet from our cultural lexicon, it's only going to cost Twitter about $20 billion in brand value. So that's what that has done. I'm not sure what that means, but I'd like when I do the quick maths, the last report we heard is that like basically it

lost half of its value when he bought it at 40, 40 some billion dollars. So then if it lost $20 in brand or 20 billion in brand value, I don't know, I don't know how to do that math, but it sounds like not good. I think it's $2 billion to the left using quick math. Yeah. Okay. So we have 44, 22, minus 20, and now it's a $2 billion company. $2 billion, which is impressive. I mean, he makes sense when you think about it.

It kind of makes sense. How, how so, sir? It's like, you know, like you'd want to, you want to unburden yourself of all that brand value. It's like expectation. You know what I mean? And you can kind of start from scratch and make all that money back, I guess. Kiki, how have you been navigating this evolution of Twitter? I don't know. Twitter used to be my favorite platform, but I tried to get on threads. If we're going to be in a billionaire's terrarium, I feel like threads is the new move. But threads

is so corny. I can't get behind threadsreads. It's like I was telling somebody, it's like when you go to an open mic like the day after New Year's and there's all these new people there that have never done comedy before. That's how Threads feels. It's like all these people that don't know how to tweet.

And so it's like weird attempts at being funny. And then like you're seeing content from people you don't follow. So yeah. Or like the people that like people I went to school with who now are like, to your point of like, I got one liners. Check this out.

I was just reading JK Rowling. Thread that shit. Like, yeah, that guy's killing it on thread. He had another one that I'm pretty sure is just one of these stolen like Rickles or Rodney Dangerfield jokes. He's the, I'm sorry. We keep bringing this guy up. The other one he said stolen like Rickles or Rodney Dangerfield jokes.

I'm sorry. We keep bringing this guy up. The other one he said was, so I had to go to the doctor, my mother-in-law's doctor, because, yeah, we had to talk about her sleeping medication. Because it's not strong enough. She's not sleeping. It's supposed to put her to sleep. Like, that was the cadence of that joke.

We're like, huh? All right. Wait, that was the joke. Yeah. Like basically he meant to be like, it sounded like a concern,

like son-in-law, but it's like, these pills ain't working doc. She's still talking. Uh-huh. Yeah. So anyway, spread the word. I'm telling you,

that guy's going to be the next TikTok star because people are going to stick around for the punchline and never find it and the engagement is just gonna be through the roof he's gonna sell the theaters in no time they're like he's doing that up there he's doing art up there yeah yeah elon though it's uh it is wild like what he's just what are the are these ideas are these just reactions without a plan i'm trying to really understand like what the what the room is like when he's pitching this shit to like the other twitter people yeah i mean it really feels like we saw what the room is like in succession when kendall roy was like pitching you know like anytime kendall roy was pitching and it would just

be like yeah so set it to uh super growth double click it five times pull in banking play skyrocket growth to the moon something like that like just oh cat like just tossing off these casual asides of like you know right what's the temperature in the room with the temperature in the room take the temperature for me yeah it's just not because yeah like his play at x.com is that he's hopes it will be some kind of all-encompassing omni platform including banking like why the fuck would anyone trust you like we don't even trust you to run this website efficiently like that that is just a place where we type words yeah chiquita banana and dole fruit don't even trust you enough to be on there anymore after they got fucking impersonated so many times but yeah sure i'll i'll put my savings i put my savings into x.com savings yeah no i would rather be on neopets.com

like this guy he's proof that there is no such thing as a billionaire how do you have so much time to come up with so much dumb shit yeah right it's yeah truly it's not because of the ideas folks it's because his just weird i guess uh kendall roy chat game is just uh pretty good i guess i mean we saw what happens like in that cnbc interview when like someone actually asks him a question he falls the fuck apart and he'll bring up a meme about fucking princess bride and you're like oh that's not an answer to the question sir but okay well i just think he should have stopped like what you know like dave chapelle like brought him out in a theater and everyone booed him like for most people that would have been enough to like hide in a cave and

never come back. But he just doubled down. Yeah, truly. Well, he never gives up. No, we'll give him that.

Yeah. Because everybody's just telling him to keep going because he has enough people that he's surrounding himself with that are just like genius, sir. Right. They're just haters because you're balling so hard that's all these are great ideas they're broke boys uh-huh yeah well balling with a hard g yeah yeah exactly balling balling go all right let's let's check in with glenn beck it's been a couple decades

but yeah he like i haven't had to say or think about Glenn Beck, I think, in a decade. Have we ever covered Glenn Beck on this show? I feel like maybe as an aside, but it's not I don't think as a focal point to be like Glenn Beck. Remember him? Because he's just been he's just fallen into obscurity since like his heyday of the late aughts yeah he's he's got to be a cautionary tale that like fox news anchors tell each other right like yeah because he he was riding high and then got fired kind of at the peak at the height of his dressing up as a founding father ness yep yep exactly to lead the charge against Barack Obama. Wait, what did he get fired for?

I don't think it was ever really clear other than contract shit. Not thinking he was paid enough. And now he's like, check me out on Yahoo Fantasy Sports. It actually has nothing to do with fantasy sports, but it's like the streaming app that they use for that. sports but it's like the streaming apps that they use for that you can go over there and you know if you type in this exact url you can find a live stream of me standing in front of a blackboard with cosplaying as ben franklin yeah exactly i know when he left it was just sort of like i'm leaving fox and people yeah oh okay and i think that caused a lot of speculation because it i think i think at the time people were speculating that it could have just been like toxic content equals ad exodus.

And just that little bit of having him for a little bit. Just they were they got scared really quickly. But either way, he left. He's gone on to do nothing that we ever mentioned. But he manages to say, you know, somewhat relevant in the right-wing takersphere. But recently, like many other bigots of his kind, he has gone after Target for not going full

Westboro Baptist and disappearing gay culture during Pride Month. And he basically was like, we have to boycott Target because yada yada grooming blah blah protect the children's. And now he's got some dumb ass book coming out and he is complaining that Target isn't selling it in their stores.

He says, dear Target, this is on a tweet. Why is blowback a warning to save democracy from the next Trump? A purely political book allowed to be sold in your stores. But my book is not. And you're like, sir, you just spent like weeks on end telling people to not shop there you hope they burn because demons run it but then you're also like sell my book please honestly the book itself is like a conspiracy laden pile of Nazi farts. So there's not so much to discuss there in terms of substance. But again, like it is good to point out, it is being sold on Target.com, just not in their fucking stores, which again, have you been to the book section of a Target? And I use book very lightly.

There's a couple books there. It's like 10 books. Usually that's there. very lightly. There's a couple of books there. It's like 10 books. Usually that's there. It'll be like whatever.

If there's like a Stephen King book, whatever the popping kids book is. And then like a couple like random things. I'm looking at the fantasy section or sorry, not the fantasy section, the book section, um, target. It's so great.

Cause this is the same guy that would be like, I don't think target has to sell to gay people, but they do have to sell my book. Yeah, that's exactly that's which again it's just so you see another moment like this where you have a right-wing hate grifter do the thing where he like screams about woke corporations and then only comes back around and is like help me because i also rely on you for my book sales shut the what is this yeah good news is they are selling prince harry's book and

cat kid comic club oh okay oh okay yeah so yeah cat kids going off it's the it's the next shared cinematic universe that's gonna fuck everyone up in like 10 years i yeah i was trying to figure out like i'm not gonna read it but the cover got me because and I think inadvertently so. Like, you've got Bill Gates and Biden flanking some bald guy like Bill Gates looks like he's like an operator, like he's wearing like a black, like paramilitary uniform with his name on it in case you didn't recognize bill gates says gates on and then like they're flanking a bald guy who again like there's no way you have any idea who this person is but i guess in the world of you wild nazi fart conspiracies like he is a household name and like a recognizable face his name is klaus schwab he's one of the leaders of the imf so i mean the international monetary fund probably yeah he's probably not like the coolest dude in the world and so the book is about like watch out for the great reset because the next step is gonna fuck

you up and the great resetet is this international economic theory that was set to debut at Davos and the Davos that got canceled by the pandemic. But it's basically international billionaires coming together and being like, climate change is going to make people mad. And so we have to like bring the values of companies together with people and like stop being so completely distanced from what matters to people, which that sounds like a good idea. Their method for doing that is through deregulation

and like getting private companies like more involved in ruling the the world oh like law enforcement or that kind of shit yeah yeah yeah yeah and the conspiracy is that the great reset was actually the cause of covid they like created the pandemic so that companies could come in and seize more power, which it seems like it's basically impossible for companies to have more power than they have right now. So why kill millions of paying customers across the globe and freeze the economy for a couple of years to do that?

I'm guessing the explanation in the book is some combination of they hate white people and they don't like our freedom or some shit. But I don't know. freedom or some shit right but i don't i don't know it seems like a mess i i feel like they were like who is this is this ya literature like it looks like it could be like a hunger games style book mixed with like a tom clancy book and yeah that's why they're not putting it on shelves yeah they've got a whole new thing that they're pressing they said that like in the book there's like also the great narrative movement that is going to completely change the way we it's going to address how we're perceiving the decay of like traditional values throughout the colonizer world. So and then there's like mentions of the CCP and Vladimir Putin just for good measure. So I don't know what it means, but there's a lot of words that resonate with people, I guess.

things connected and like 50 different like circles like words that he's circled and then like drawn an arrow to another word but i also like this just reminded me of um did you guys ever read the book freakonomics do you remember when i was like hell yeah such a popular like it was like smart it's like bestseller smart person everyone had it in their bathroom yeah yeah everyone had it it's still a popular podcast the author steven dubner i think is is the new york times journalist he like i remember like at the height of that i think it was his podcast like popularity he like did an episode where he just like hung with glenn beck and like glenn beck drove a race car around and then they just like riffed on like some theory that driving race cars will make you drive safer because

you're like aware that they're dangerous or some shit but no i just i feel like we've never fully reckoned with what a reactionary hack yeah and and like that book in particular like that that guy i think in his follow-up to free economics like he had something about how the climate crisis was actually not that big a deal because someone was going to like come through and solve it. And he like compared the climate crisis to the crisis in New York City at the turn of the last century when like there was horse poop everywhere because everyone was driving horses. And he was like, but progress naturally came through and solved that for us with cars. So now climate change is just like the latest thing. And we we're gonna figure it out by putting a bunch of gases into the atmosphere that'll make it cooler and we're good here and that is such like fucking white guy thinking

yeah yeah what a leap yeah yeah it's like it sounds like it sounds like your mom solved a lot of problems for you behind the scenes that you weren't aware of either. And I don't know how to fold a T-shirt. Yeah. Just one little fact to know about. Yeah. But if I leave them around someone folds them and puts them in there. So problem

solved. I just want to say if he wanted us to be scared of Bill Gates and Joe Biden, like why did he make them look so cool on this book cover? Like they look like a hard as fuck here like bill gates has ever looked joe biden looks like he could like shoot a fucking jet out of the sky with like a handgun like that's how like his like face is like what's fucking next for me which i'm usually usually he's asking that out of confusion. Not out of confidence. Yeah, like this is a Joe Biden I would vote for. Like he looks present, engaged.

He remembers that he's president. He's got good eyesight, it looks like. He looks like he's looking very far away. Just kill a room of bad guys with his laser eyes. Yeah. Like the Biden on the cover feels like it's laser eye Biden. It's like dark Biden just with his laser eyes turned off. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. He's charging. And the guy next to him, he looks turtley enough for the turtle club. I don't know who he is, but I mean, you said who he is,

but I still don't really, I don't understand. That was a lot of words. I don't believe when you said IMF, I thought you spent impossible missions force, like from mission impossible. Cause isn't that like you said IMF, I thought you meant impossible missions force like from Mission Impossible. Because isn't that like the name of their the group that he's part of? Anyway, just another factoid. I just want to point out, I think like as as I like just kind of peruse a little bit more about what the book is.

It's like any fucking conspiracy book for the right, which is essentially meant to say, like, all the progress you're seeing around you is fucking evil and you're gonna have to explode the corporations or people of goodwill in order to preserve our like archaic way of living because in like just sort of one of the descriptions goes on to talk about how glenn beck and the co-author reveal the most important technologies and social and cultural changes that will soon cause an unprecedented level of disruption in the united states they also outline the dangers and opportunities associated with these disruptions and provide a plan to protect individuals and families from losing their liberty yeah so yeah basically i think which means the you're they're perceived right to be terribly racist and hateful in public, maybe? I think that's usually what it means.

Yeah. But anyway, in the intense struggle for the future of humankind, whose side will you be on? On the Freakonomics guys, he was fully in on, like there were those leaked emails where people tried

to cherry pick. it was like the first like you know podesta emails leak but about climate change where they like pulled all these emails and then like cherry picked these little details to make it seem like climate scientists were lying about climate change and he like went on fox and was like i think we have to take a whole new look at the entire narrative that they've been giving. That's like this New York Times reporter who wrote Freakonomics. I mean, I'm sure people have written that book off at this point, who were paying attention,

but I do feel like it's still out there and still has the cachet of being associated with the New York Times, and he's a fucking complete hack. Right. Yeah. This is news to me. I thought it was just like a good bathroom reader

that everybody got behind. I didn't know he was a kook. Well, I think at that time, what he was saying was like just vague enough that you couldn't quite parse, like, you know, maybe what his ultimate worldview was. And I think also just like to shorthand,

like New York times. Good. Yeah. New York times. Good. We should all just think a little bit more like economic, economic, economist.

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And we're back. We're back. and if i seem a little distant it is because i'm coming to you from the like 15 seconds in the past for some reason there's a fucking long ass lag that is happening i'm hearing everything everybody says 10 seconds later i apologize to our guest. I apologize to my parents. I'm better than this, I promise. Didn't apologize to me, though. I apologize to Miles, of course. I just feel like you're used to it at this point. Yeah, the non-apologies?

Yeah. A little too used to them at this point. All right. Should we talk Oppenheimer? I don't think Miles, you haven't seen Oppenheimer yet? Nah, nah. This week though. This week I will go to look at Killian Murphy's spooky face in IMAX, I think.

Spooky face? I need his Botox beautiful face. What are you talking about? Wait, hold on. Okay, wait. So you... Killian, he doesn't look haunted as fuck to you? Yeah, but maybe that's my thing. Okay, I'm just making sure we're seeing the same thing. I'm not knocking you if that's what you're into,

but I'm like, he haunted. But I get that. Then that's why he stays working because you can't fake that face. I like a good hollowed out husk of a man, personally. Yeah, yeah. Have you seen the pictures where people took pictures from the front row of the IMAX?

It's just so warped because it's just a wall-sized close-up of his face. And his right jowl is really the star of this shot. They shouldn't sell seats that close to the fucking screen. Because I saw Barbie in the second row. that close to the fucking screen because i saw barbie in the second row and i was definitely testing like the limits of like what is too close to a screen because it's like a bigger screen and i was like my head was like jerking around but then also like the perspective does shift a bit when you're the viewing angle is so acute anyway why am i why am i going to complain to the capitalist theaters to be like sell less seats, to make the experience better for everyone?

If you just stand on your seat and in an athletics position and then just look back and forth really fast the whole time, that helps. Yeah, blends into one image. All right. So Oppenheimer, as we mentioned on our weekend digest, is making way more money than anyone expected. Currently has 94% approval rating from critics and audiences on Rotten Tomatoes. And it's coming under some heat for some things that it just kind of glosses over. Yeah, I feel like this week I've seen non-stop articles about like like what the movie gets right and what is made up or other things like here's the real oppenheimer story or

things you probably didn't know were not there in the oppenheimer movie that seems like to be a lot of taking up a lot of space right now as people watch it are the articles like they actually dropped those bombs on japan it's japan like do you see how big those things were and like super hot i don't know if you know this but like that's those bombs like killed a lot of people after it wasn't just him having sex with florence pugh all the time in front of congress yeah yeah but so i i guess Oppenheimer illustrates the devastation and his guilt only through like subjective visions that Oppenheimer has. The whole movie is told from his perspective. Right.

It like stays on the perspective of Oppenheimer himself, which conveniently allows a movie about one of the greatest horrors in modern history to be blockbuster entertainment for mainstream audiences. Right. But he was so conflicted when he made it, though. Just so you know. But also, people's shadows were burnt into concrete from the blast. But he felt bad.

Yeah, right, right, right. I don't know. Hot take, I feel like it's almost like going to McDonald's. I don't know like hot take i feel like like it's almost like going to mcdonald's like i don't go to mcdonald's to feel good like yeah i don't think anybody's going to oppenheimer to like learn history like you're just learning about this weird dude yeah i think it on some level like i get that like as a as a work of like entertainment it's like okay there's plenty of like bummer shit you can watch if you really want to like drill down into like the atom bomb and shit like that but i think for like when you're talking about someone who's what they're what they're what they gave to the world and you kind of avoid

like what that actually ends up being then it feels a little bit like well are you telling the whole story to just kind of focus on him there because i i think there is so much complexity there that you can make like a good story out of but i i get why people be like huh you kind of gloss over like what where all that work led but okay yeah big part of the story yeah yeah yeah so one of the details that our writer jam kind of points out it also gets glossed over in addition to the dropping of the bombs in japan is the land in los alamos where the manhattan project was based was like first of all forcibly secured and indigenous and hispanic communities were relocated lands were seized by armed soldiers who showed up with letters written in English that the people who lived there couldn't understand because they sent no translators. And part of the reasoning that the military in Oppenheimer specifically used to pick Los Alamos

as the site of the Manhattan Project was because competing sites such as in Utah would have meant evicting white farmers. Oh, of course. And they also saw the dispossessed Hispanic and indigenous residents as a potential, quote, cheap labor force for the Manhattan Project. Oh, my God. So they're like, okay, once they're displaced, they're going to be desperate enough to come work for us? Yeah. to come work for us yeah it's like even if you're centering his point of view and like his decision making going into this it is like you are having to do a lot of work on his behalf to just make him seem humane and the the big thing is like and this this part feels wildly cinematic like the

sort of thing that christopher nolan would have to explicitly be like man that would be an amazing thing to show is that like they knew the area around the trinity test site was like far from uninhabited so they're like all these communities who lived around the like where they set off the explosion who are not warned about the dangers of the experiments. And like, so there's like dozens of families within 20 miles. And these are like largely poor families and ranchers and farmers. And there were like all these storms on the day that they were supposed to conduct the test. And a physicist warned Oppenheimer that this could be a catastrophe.

conduct the test. And a physicist warned Oppenheimer that this could be a catastrophe. And Oppenheimer relayed this message to the military by saying, the weather today is whimsical. Oh, it'll whimsically carry radioactive fallout miles away. Is that what he means? Very whimsically? Oh, the whimsy of radioactivity. Okay. Okay. Oh, the whimsy of radio, radio activity. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

He had that cool quote about being become death destroyer of worlds, burning a hole in his pocket. And he was like, I got to use this thing, man. Like, this is going to fucking rule when we set this thing off. Dude, you got to put, you know how thick the glasses are. You got to put on even fucking look at it. It's going to be fucking wild, bro. I love the two that the guy who told him that was enrico fermi yeah yeah enrique of the fermi paradox uh for people who like to talk about like space life out there yeah yeah make a story about him yeah yeah seriously so just a

little like scene that was omitted so So a meteorologist warned that the weather that morning was likely to spread fallout far and wide over New Mexico's civilian population right in the middle of a period of thunderstorm. The meteorologist complained in his journal of the scheduled test, what son of a bitch could have done this? And so as the storm raged in the hours before the test, Fermi warns Oppenheimer there could be a catastrophe. Oppenheimer took a break from reading the poetry of Baudelaire to relay to the military the weather is whimsical thing. I love that. Fucking reading poetry. He's about to end the lives of people and like, you know,

poison generations. Right, right, right. Cause yeah, that fallout is like a, still a legacy to this day. I definitely know about it.

It affects people's DNA. Also that quote is so corny. Like why? Like, I don't know if you're like quoting the fucking death thing, like that guy shouldn't be allowed to make decisions. I don't know. Right. Right. He's like, but he's going to help

us flex our power on the communists. That's the real big part of this, too. They went through with the test. It was essentially a dirty bomb by today's standards because it didn't succeed that well. I think only there was like 20% of it

that didn't go off, or maybe it was only 20% went off. Yeah. Yeah. 20% of the core went off and the rest was, you know, scattered across New Mexico and beyond. Literally ruined a batch of film at a Kodak factory in Indiana. That's close by based on my rough geography and knowledge of the United States. So they're in New Mexico and it blew all the way to end oh no that's very wow yeah what oh boy that's 1267 miles from the middle of new mexico to indiana okay so huh that's like all of middle america yeah right

yeah yikes yeah and like that wasn't as far as it went. That was where it went and ruined a batch of film. Right. It was still that powerful that far away. The military collected radioactive fallout, and you might assume that was in order to document and make decisions better, but it was totally just based on legal ass covering.

And for thousands of people who lived near the Trinity site, they were awoken that morning. So this is the detail. This is the most cinematic, fucked up depiction of this entire experiment that I could imagine. fiction of this entire experiment that i could imagine so the thousands of people who live near the trinity site are awoken that morning by a goddamn nuclear blast that a thing that like has not been possible doesn't exist as far as human assumptions about reality like human understanding or technology right yeah yeah most of those people didn't even realize what had happened until the news of the bombing of japan and their land crops livestock and water were irradiated leading to generations of people suffering from various types of cancer in the weeks after the test they were never advised that their land crops livestock and water may may have been contaminated like it just

feels like that's all incredibly cinematic. Yeah. But we can't tell the story from the perspective of the people and have to do, like, the great man theory of history where everything's controlled by a protagonist who is sitting with detached bemusement and reading poetry and, you know, making massive decisions that affect the lives of thousands of people.

And millions. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, Hills Have Eyes had a better, they did a better job of depicting the impacts of nuclear. Yeah, truly, the Hills Have Eyes is a story for the people about the downwinders from the fucking Trinity blasts. Yeah. And like, again, it is wild, too, too because to tell that story you have to reveal a

lot about the united states government about how commerce works about the motivations to just be like yeah we're actually don't want to displace white people we want to displace like hispanic and indigenous people we don't care about the poor people downwind and if they try and come with us with evidence that they've actually suffered because this testing, we're just going to fucking turn a blind eye because those people have no they they've never had and never will have any kind of financial recourse due to what happened there. So that's that's that they'll come work for us. So, yeah, exactly. It's like, hey, if you want, we'll test your body for a couple bucks. Oh, I could be fun.

your body for a couple bucks. Huh? That could be fun. Yeah. It kind of reminds me when my sister and I, we went to Vietnam and we went to over there, they call it the American war, not the Vietnam war.

Yeah. And like the pictures in that museum are so much more horrific than anything you've ever been taught over here. It's not a GI with like a sleeveless, you know, fatigue jacket on with cigarettes in his helmet singing Fortunate Son. It's like, yeah, and that's what it was. We don't know about chemical warfare or these other terrible things and napalm and shit like that. Right.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's always like that's always it's that's what's funny is like this way. I guess that makes sense because America, like the film industry is not always going to really crank out those real sort of sober eyed depictions of what are like imperial wars end up looking like on the other side. It is going to be like, yeah, there was Oppenheimer. He did that. And yeah, maybe it was kind of like these guys in Germany kicked some butt and then they came back. And they're still just kind of like we're always we're not left with like a real total telling of like the humanity of of war but hey that's for the european filmmakers to do because they have fantastic anti-war films right is this movie funded like i know like top gun has like military funding behind it do you know if like oppenheimer does i don't know i mean unless that usually like

it happens because you want to use the the military's toys and they're like fine if you want to play with our toys on camera then like we have like a say in stuff so I'm not sure uh with this one but I'd imagine I'd imagine there was some consulting on some level probably but yeah I have no I have no idea there's an election coming up yeah right we'll see how this is used for I don't know which party will will benefit from Yeah, I have no idea. There's an election coming up! Yeah, right. We'll see how this is used for... I don't know which party will benefit from Oppenheimer. Seems like Barbie is definitely being used by the right to beat the culture wars to death,

but I don't know about Oppenheimer yet. I mean, it is crazy. The people who are called the Downwinders, who are directly affected by this, like the fallout, the government won't acknowledge or compensate those families like that them specifically they're just like yep nope that never we're not talking about that yeah we can't hear you and yeah so they again feel erased by history due to the film's glaring omission of their story and erased by

the government and like biden last year extended the film's glaring omission of their story and erased by the government. And like Biden last year extended the government's Radiation Exposure Compensation Act, but it still doesn't cover anyone affected by the fallout from the Trinity test. And some lawmakers are trying to use the movie's popularity as a way to finally change that. So like

maybe there's a good thing that could come out of this, but it doesn't seem like it's based on sort of the narrative trajectory of the movie that that would happen. Right, right, right. Yeah. I mean, we see this all the time, like just cancer clusters that pop up near like EPA Superfund sites or like or how long it takes for like the EPA or the government to be like, oh, yeah, that is a cluster of cancer cases that was caused by something that happened like in LA, like where the jet propulsion laboratory is, you know, where they were like doing a lot of work trying to figure out how rockets, how they can make

shit travel very far to either destroy things or send things into space that contaminated a lot of water, like in the San Gabriel Valley, that meant there's these cancer clusters that popped up that took a while for them to be like oh yes this is okay so we need to put like full-time water treatment like everywhere near this place because yeah we were too busy like playing with

chemicals to figure out how to kill people better uh it just feels like a i can't imagine for every like the groups of downwinders there are there There's you know, there's plenty more. I mean, if you think of how long it took for people even in Flint, Michigan to even be acknowledged. Yeah. Sorry, I'm just Googling how far the propulsion laboratory is from my house. When did that happen? Oh, this is in the 60s. It's fine.

It's fine. You're you're you're you're completely different water district. So it's OK. It's fine. You're a completely different water district, so it's okay. It's people in Pasadena and La Cunada, Flint Ridge, and Altadena that are typically the ones that are most affected. We don't like Pasadena anyway. The parking's terrible. Yeah, and they didn't let Black people own property until very late in the game. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We have our feelings there. Well, Kiki, such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist.

Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? Yeah, thank you guys for having me. I am on Instagram as itskeekyanderson. My podcast Indecent with Kiki Anderson is also on Instagram as indecentkiki and you can stream us anywhere you get your podcast. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? I'm watching Righteous Gemstones

right now. My boyfriend loves it, so it's very like bro-y humor, but I'm kind of behind it. It's fun. Have you watched all the seasons of it? We're on the most recent one, yeah. Okay, yeah, I still have to watch. Well, that's, it's three, right?

Season three now, right? Yes. Yeah, I think so, yeah. I'm waiting to, yeah, that complete before I dive back in, because, yeah, I love that show. Danny McBride, he's a genius. Miles,

where can people find you? What is the work of media you've been enjoying? Uh, wherever you have at based applications, miles of gray, G R a Y. Just find me there. I'm doing shit. Uh,

also if you like true crime, I got a new true crime podcast out called the good thief, uh, where we talk about the search for the modern day Robin hood of Greece, uh, which is a really dope story. So please check that out. You can find Jack and I talking basketball on our basketball podcast.

Miles and Jack got mad boosties. And I'm talking 90 Day Fiance with Sophie Alexandra on 420 Day Fiance. And some work of media like I'm not going to front, man. The Steph Curry documentary underrated. Pretty good. Pretty good. Not going to lie. media like i'm not gonna front man the steph curry documentary underrated pretty good pretty good not gonna lie i mean i think it is it was not that i was going in to be like this better suck i'm not a curry hater by any means but it really helps underscore like how exceptional he is so uh inspiring story and a guy who respects his mother. We love to see that. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien,

on threads at Jack underscore O underscore O'Brien. Tweet, I've been enjoying. I mean, Rob Delaney had a good, he tweeted my favorite letter. You sure you want to know? Because it's easily the most twisted one attributed to the sassy billionaire. You can find us on Twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about

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you listen to and you're like is this now or this was from the future from the past uh so check this out this is lion with you've got a woman all right we will link off to that in the footnotes the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio forio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning. Back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye.

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