The Daily Zeitgeist - Xmas Shortage Stories Are BS, Hell Is Bossware 12.09.21

Episode Date: December 9, 2021

In episode 1046, Jack and Miles are joined by podcaster and comedian Jackie Kashian to discuss Mouse Movers: How workers are fighting back against BOSSWARE, Patriot Front? Huh? What? Never heard of them!, News of Christmas Shortages Continues to be Bullshit and more! Mouse Movers: How workers are fighting back against BOSSWARE Patriot Front? Huh? What? Never heard of them! Trumpsters blame Biden for Santa shortage in latest GOP 'Forever War on Christmas' News of Christmas Shortages Continues to be Bullshit Biden says 'America is back' as multiple crises intensify and Christmas tree shortage looms: Bruce BLAME THE SUPPLY CHAIN FOR LACK OF CHRISTMAS TREES The Dork Forest with Jackie KashianThe Jackie and Laurie ShowListen: Stay Kashianjackiekashian.comLISTEN: Oil Slick by Puma Blue Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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because we're all pretty aware of pastries. We're all fans. Guess it needs it. You would think that, and then National Pastry Day comes, and you're like, ah, never mind. This is the best. Also, Christmas card day. I thought that was Christmasmas but i am wrong

my name is jack o'brien aka jizz lane maxwell has the hammer fall down upon her head too bad maxwell is the scapegoat now that epstein's dead. Whoa, whoa. All right. That was courtesy of Matt Dick. Matt Dick, though, on Twitter. And shout out to the Beatles documentary, which informed us, which made me feel good for always hating that song because it was apparently the worst recording process of all time. Well, I'm thrilled to be joined, as as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! The time is

right. Gotta join that light. Simply having a wonderful Spliffmas time. And shout out to Hannah Rimmick, you, the AKA goddess herself, Hannah Soltis. I sees ya on Discord.

And just keeping that beatles theme going although you know that's what that's the paul mccartney the thing that i grew up hearing adults say this is crap that song is crap that's what you learn from the uh documentary is that maxwell silverhammer is like a mccartney joint that everybody in the band thought was like very corny and he was like no no you have to you have to like then we'll we'll hit this thing and it'll like sound cool and and then after the filming of the documentary they did the abbey road sessions and apparently it was the song that broke up the band or did the most to break up the band anyways miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third

seat by one of the greatest stand-ups funniest podcasters doing it anywhere uh you've seen her on hbo's two dope queens and heard her on her podcast dork forest and the jackie and laurie show please welcome the brilliant the talented jackie kation yay I feel welcome! What's up? And I will not be breaking into song. My loss. Their loss. Yeah, our loss, for sure. Some say love. No. Come on. Just a straight

down the middle. Just straight. Just doing something out of Gary O.P. 97. Yeah, that's it. Love it. Jackie, where are you coming to us from? What part of the cursed landscape are you at right now? God's green earth. We're talking Hollywood.

Hollywood, Florida. Oh. Weirdly enough, it looks like carrion birds are floating in the sky. I wonder if you can see them. But it's not good. It's not good. But there's a lot of music-themed art. I'm surrounded. And I don't know anything about music. It's not good. And then there's, but there's a lot of music themed art. I'm surrounded and I don't know anything about me. Like I know I listen to music. I'm not a monster,

but I don't like, I'm not, I haven't watched that documentary. There's a giant picture downstairs that I just tweeted. I said, I think it's a heavy metal. I know he's hugely famous. He's wearing a bandana as a hat i don't know who he is and everybody feel free to guess and then in two hours when i'm done with this i guess i will post a picture and you all go how could you not know how did you not know that it's bandana hat my favorite my favorite type of genre of music themed art is things that are shaped like musical instruments. Right. And you were sharing before we recorded that you are, in fact, in a hotel shaped like a guitar.

Yeah. And you know those, you know, when they line you up like cattle to check into a hotel? Right. The posts are all guitars. Oh, wow. Everything's a guitar. Yeah. Like for like rope and stanchion? Like that kind of thing? Yeah.. Everything's a guitar. Yeah. Like for rope and stanchion?

Yeah. That kind of thing? But isn't that way more of a footprint? Yeah. Oh, this whole thing is a footprint. It's the devil's thumb. It is sticking out of the Everglades or wherever the hell I am. Like a giant footprint.

This thing. When the aliens come, they'll be like, oh, they didn't like this planet at all. No, no. Oh, so they were trying to kill it. Oh, it makes sense now why it's dead. Stab, stab, stab. This is a giant knife into the earth.

That's what this is. The art in my room is something, and I'd show it to you, but of course it's a hotel art, so it's, of course, nailed to the wall. But it's guitar picks. Guitar picks shaped like stuff. Yes.

Very cool. Nothing is more metal, nothing is more rock and roll than things shaped like guitars. Than hotel, mass-made hotel art. With guitar picks. Than macaroni art, but with guitar hell yeah yes that's exactly what we're talking

about I think my lamp is a drum oh yeah oh that's like just got to be so weird you're like and they're like fuck is it my lamps a drum the toilets a drum stool look it's one of those symbol hats instead of a fridge or right yeah whatever yeah that that

would be what they serve the burger in is like the oh yeah there's a symbol the hi-hat right and there's a burger inside or it's smashed because it's too if they aren't doing that they're actually leaving money on the table that That's right. And I'm guessing the elevator is just rife with rock quotes, right? Oh, there's something going on. I don't know what's happening, except for no one with masks. That's what we know. A lot of people, a lot of things not happening here in Florida. A lot of people living on a prayer.

My favorite philosopher, Eric Clapton, has always said, you don't need that. You don't need that fucking mask. Don't let the government tell you what to do. I had a moment at LAX yesterday. I tweeted about it, but it was I was in an elevator going up to the Delta Sky Club. I travel a lot, you guys. I'm in the Delta Sky Club. It's very glamorous.

Anyway, it's a tiny elevator. Me, two other middle-aged women and an older man. Demographic, just so you know, the man's Middle Eastern, might be Arabic or Armenian or something. I'm Armenian, so I can almost tell. And then there's an Asian woman and another Middle-aged white lady. And we're all going up this elevator. We're packed like sardines, but we're all wearing masks. And I make the joke that I make now in a packed elevator, which is

masks and I make the joke that I make now in a packed elevator, which is we're packed in here like it's 2019. I'm not saying it's super funny, but sometimes it'll get a laugh and I'm a desperate, desperate comedian. So I get a laugh and then the guy says, this is all ridiculous. You know, this is a, this is just a plot. Oh, hell yeah. Giant silence, buzz buzzkill on on inside this tiny tiny elevator and we were all shocked and so i just said back you didn't want to stay living and then the doors open and he walks out and he goes i get to say that you know it's freedom of speech and i get to and i said me too man look what we just did you said something i said something the whole thing and then i lived in hope that he wasn't going to the sky club all right jackie we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment

first a couple of things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about mouse movers, which is just a little piece of, you know, it's like a souvenir from the hell world that we live in. If we could bring it back to ourselves in 2019, we would all be like, what's that? Yeah. Oh, no. What? We're going to talk about Patriot Front. So we're going to check in with a lot of these stories. I even fell for one.

The Christmas shortages, you know, Santa's are, there's a Santa shortage. There's a Christmas tree shortage. Rush out and get your Christmas trees and your in-home Santas, I guess, before they run out. Turns out that's all bullshit. So we're going to talk about that. All of that, plenty more. But first, Jackie, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? I googled a thing yesterday because I got a, I don't know if you guys know this, but I'm everyone's favorite aunt.

And so I get a lot of questions via text, some business related, which is nothing funnier than that because I'm not great at this business. But I guess I'm better at it than other comics. And I'm willing to answer a question. And like every comic, I will at least have an opinion, even without the information. So I made a joke in a text chain for the comic that he didn't get the joke. And I realized that it was a reference to a hacky premise from the 80s, from the 1980s in standup comedy. And so I Googled who said many parts of a pine tree are edible. And it was a grape nuts commercial from the 70s with a guy named Yule

Givens. And Yul Givens said in this weird, weird Grape Nuts commercial, many parts of a pine tree are edible. And for 20 years after that, from the 70s through the early 90s, it was one of the hackiest premises on the road, stand-up comedy-wise. So what were the derivations off of that? How was it used? Sometimes it was a throwaway line, just a tag. Sometimes they would change it. Many parts of a pine tree are edible.

They would say sometimes many parts of a pine tree are fuckable, you guys. Write that down because that's good times. That's just good writing. Anyway, because they both have an able. Anyway, it was terrible. There was trouble is what I'm saying. It was a weird commercial. I don't blame them.

But that is the last thing that was interesting that I Googled. It's a quote from the father of modern foraging. Right. He was a weird eating guy from the 70s. What a strange time. Could you imagine General Mills featuring somebody who's a freegan in one of their commercials? Or even Rick Steves. It would be like that.

What? Okay. What's this intersection of brands that I'm seeing right now? When advertising was just a little worse. But Grape Nuts is weird. So, like, the people who eat Grape Nuts are weird. Right. I grew up as part of a Grape Nuts family, and it was weird. Yogurt and Grape Nuts was like a thing in my family. And it's a bad,

it's a bad snack. And what the fuck feels like child abuse. Well, what is it even? Cause I remember as a kid, like going through the cereal, I'm like, that looks like shit.

And it's two words I don't like. So let's go on to rice. Crispy street cereal. But like, what is grape nuts? Even it's not. It's, it seemed to be, I think it's a baked grain is what i think it is i think it's a wheat thing like have you ever eaten weetabix is sort of the fun version of grape nuts and weetabix isn't fun i like weetabix

but that's because i put a lot of fruit on it with my milk but Grape nuts seems like it is the result of a bet between some giant food barons of like, I bet I can get people to eat just the worst, essentially gravel. It is so bad

in your mouth. There's like one and a half seconds where the aftertaste is like pretty good. And I think that's what it's been coasting on. But also like grape and nuts are two words that are appetizing to people. Like grapefruit has been coasting off having the word grape in it for so long, even though it tastes like shit. Grape nuts. Wow.

Same deal. I like grapefruit. I've not made a stone over here right i actually do like grapefruit but like my kids point yeah my my kids reaction to grapefruit is like this tastes horrible but i think it gets a lot of points just based on the name yeah it's not it's definitely not for kids that's for sure like i i remember in my house we had a grapefruit tree that like every adult would be like whenever they came off and I had to go pick them and like bring them back. People would never like, oh, I love your grapefruits. There's just the flavor is so good. I can never understand. It's I was like 23 and I was like, oh, right. It's not just that it has to taste like juice.

Yeah. And that's there are other dimensions of flavor that can be positive. Yeah. Yes. I don't know what it is about becoming an adult and being able to have like a nuanced palate. Right.

But when you're a kid, you're just like, nah, I just want a fruit roll-up. Leave me alone. Yeah. That's weird. Yeah. What is something you think

is overrated? I was torn between NFTs and cryptocurrency. One and the same, really. Right. They feel like, I mean, money itself is such an illusion. But this is like the illusion of the illusion. And you're like, okay, all right.

I get it. All right. You're bored. There's like, you have so much money that you're like, oh, but I just, I'm the only one that has this picture of this thing. And you're like, I'm the only one that has this picture of this thing. And you're like, I don't understand. Go outside. It's happening.

It's like a boring satirist is writing reality now. Like somebody who is trying to satirize the fact that money is nothing. It's a Mark Twain automaton. Something's gone horribly awry. There's a Tracy Allowain automaton. Something's gone horribly awry. Yeah.

There's a Tracy Allaway tweeted a couple of days ago. It's a dude that said, just saw someone describe crypto as Mary Kay for young men. And now I'm dying. Oh, my God. That stuck the landing. Nice work. I mean, there's I also saw recently this clip, this viral clip of a guy at a party who was displaying an NFT he owned on a backpack. Like, had a backpack with, like, an LED screen on it.

And it was just, like, rotating this, like, NFT gift that he owned. And it was just like, what the fuck? I'm part of you want to say, like, that'll never gain traction. But I don't know if I'm just an older person watching like a wave crest. And I'm like, and now I have my LED backpack for that. Right. Well, fanny packs are back. So who am I to judge?

Right. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, I get it. It's like it's certainly my friend, Carmen Morales, does this joke about how only rich people are the ones who want to downsize, who want to clear out all their stuff because they could buy it again when

they want it. Carmen Morales, you guys go find her. Yeah. Cause it just feels like more crap where, I mean, I do, I have nonsense.

I have, I have, you know, rooms full of, of just stuff but i can't imagine right yeah it all falls apart that's how overrated it is i'm blown away yeah i think and and also like looking at all the ways like nfts are just especially nft has just been abused to high hell like in terms of like how did someone bought a 650 000 picture of a yacht you're like this couldn't be more like like a transparent

form of like some kind of money laundering than like i really don't see any reason why like yeah dude this picture of a yacht uh 650 put down on it could have been a home bought this gift anyway wow i do think like the blockchain is cool it's a cool concept it's like what makes it cool explain it to me make it cool it's basically a online record or just like a digital record of everything that has happened to a given like document or you know uh thing that's being sold it's just the nfts and it's dispersed which is like what i think is cool it's not like centrally held by a bank or something it's the reason that it is kind of irrevocable is because it like the second it's out there everybody has access to that and everybody has a copy of it so it's just like blockchain is just a current word for providence yeah in a way yeah yeah okay well it's just because i was like what does it even

what does it mean blockchain right but now i know now i know It gets slippery, though, too, like with the decentralized stuff, because now you're already seeing how it can begin to centralize, whether informally or formally, like in exchanges or just with people who have owned a ton of a certain crypto. So, I mean, that's what makes it, I think, such a Wild West moment where I think people are still trying to find, like, there's some stuff that i can it's usable there are other things where people are completely just you know running wild with it but yeah that is there's a cool concept in there and everything that's being

done with it is very stupid anyway so buy zeitcoin guys uh it's on uh coinbase miles we're we're not dropping that yet oh my oh right. We got to get a bunch of other influencers. We got to get that bad artist to create the gif that will be attached to it. Jackie, what is something you think is underrated? So many things. So many things are underrated.

Everything everyone loves, right? Like, people love different things that nobody else loves. But there's, you know, because there's 8 billion people on the planet that, that there there's. So like some people love horror movies and I do not, I do not, but I, I respect that they, that they like horror movies. And I recently found out that what people, what some people love about, and this was an episode of the dark forest is that, is that what people love about horror movies is that they have a lot of anxiety and sometimes watching a horror movie can bleed off that anxiety. And I was like, how is that even possible? It should make you more scared.

It makes me more scared anyway so uh i would say in my for me things that are underrated that people don't appreciate are literally uh romance novels hey bram occasion over here telling you about romance novels been reading them since junior high and they make me they're i mean there's so many they're they're they're like comic books and stand-up comedy in the way that there's they're written for everybody and by everybody yeah like they're written by every race every religion every gender every sexuality and you know some you know a lot of them you know the mocking of them is valid because a lot of them are poorly written. But some of them are not. But there's historical, there's paranormal, there's cowboy ones that my great aunt loves.

I mean, it's so craptastic that it can be anything. And the ones that I read are sort of historical, and that is in finger quotes. Yeah. Because, did you see Bridgerton? I was just going to ask you what your thoughts on Bridgerton are, because that has been the breakthrough of romance novel culture, right? Is it Shonda Rhimes? Is that who produced it? Yeah. Okay.

She, quite honestly, nailed the vibe of them. Yeah. Which is dumb and hilarious and kind of sweet and also kind of epically sociopolitical. You know, like Bridgerton, I, weirdly enough, had read those books prior to it coming out, which is weird all by itself. Such a random thing, Julia Quinn. So we're in the heart of lockdown, right? We're deep lockdown, looking for something to watch.

And I was like, what is this? And so we put it on. I live in a small house with my husband. So there, it's on the television. He's watching it and he's like, how can she not know what sex is? And I was like, well, I don't know if you know about the educational situation of women prior to about 1960. Right. Like literally 60 years ago, 70 years ago.

Tab A, slot A, never mentioned. Right? I mean, if you lived out like there was no ikea like nobody nobody was given directions and uh and so the fact that you didn't know is accurate and it's so funny about romance novels in the way that they're that they really um some of them do do this weirdraming, but they're, you know, more and more like history of like women will come out because nobody ever wrote anything about it because women didn't get published. So you assume that women were just in the house breeding and doing dishes and getting sandwiches for people. But it turns out back in the way back days, there were like women doctors and women lawyers and women scholars and

translators and and all that all kinds of stuff so maybe the historical romance novels are speculative fiction in the way that they talk about heroines right right but maybe they're also channeling some sort of the history that was never written so that's what i think is underrated at that genre i mean in general i think more and more people are beginning to realize how powerful also channeling some sort of the history that was never written. So that's what I think is underrated. That genre, I mean, in general, I think more and more people are beginning to realize how powerful it is and how popular it is. Have you been to the Ripped Bodice in Culver City? Yes, I have. They do stand up. They do have a withstander show. Right, right. And like so and then, you know, they're like to the point where Sony TV, Sony Pictures TV, they signed an overall deal like these owners of a romance only bookstore signed an overall deal with Sony Pictures TV, they signed an overall deal like these owners of a romance only bookstore signed an overall deal with Sony Pictures TV off the strength of their knowledge of the genre, which is like really interesting to me.

And I think I think goes to show how much even now, like at the higher levels of production that is coming into focus and realizing how much of a popular genre it is. That is coming into focus and realizing how much of a popular genre it is. Here's a fun fact that a lot of people don't know is that the reason why romance novels are sold in grocery stores is because women would get a grocery budget and they could hide their book purchases from their husbands in the 50s and 60s. Oof. That makes total sense. No, no, that makes total sense. makes sense yeah right yeah yeah absolutely like what's a good starter for people who like bridgerton oh what's yeah to like a a novel to get started if you wanted a historical room you know lorraine newman actually uh emailed me she was like you read these things i've never read these things you got something for me? And so I turned her on to a series that is actually kind of adorable and pretty good sexy

times. The author's name is Stephanie Lawrence, you guys. Miles, Jack, Stephanie Lawrence. And it's the first one I think is called Devil's Bride. Why wouldn't it? Why wouldn't it be called Devil's Bride? Of course it is. And there's the first six books are actually really good. The next 12 are okay. I think the six after that are hit and miss. And here's the thing about romance writers as well,

is they have to write two or three books a year. Wow. To make a living. Right. Because the money is really good at the publisher level but not at the author level right so it's like the comic books right or just like when people buy scripts for like lifetime or hallmark movies or that's it yeah people are buying them but they're seven grand a pop so you can do like eight are they seven grand because a friend

of mine has uh one coming out december 19th jennifer jen kirkman oh yeah i think jen kirkman might command a better price than uh right it's a good idea but yeah it's a well i did back-to-back episodes last december a year ago this month of uh Hallmark Christmas movies, because I don't have cable, so I've never seen them. But I assume that they are romance novels in hour and a half form. But Jen Kirkman did Hallmark movies, and my brother Russ did Hallmark movies. My brother Russ is an econ professor, and he had spreadsheets, because he loves he the guy is a is a marshmallow of a dude when it comes to movies but this the spreadsheet was how much the budgets were who where they were shot who directed them and most of the budget goes to the women actress who is the lead

oh wow and the rest of the budget is split among the crew and the the rest and the guys always change the women are off we'll often get like a six picture deal but the guys but my brother's like they all look like the same guy you know yeah they're just sort of a six foot six foot two brown haired guy with regular features and i was like, yeah, that sounds handsome. That sounds like an adult man. Wait, 6'2 regular guy? Okay. Whitey Magoo's. I think he has a column for when anything that isn't

a straight white guy is involved. Because he broke it down. He loves the spreadsheet. He's an econ. Yeah. Love some facts. Alright. Well, if you like Bridgerton, Headshake. He's an econ. Yeah. Love some facts. All right. Well, if you like Bridgerton, go check out the works

of Stephanie Lawrence. You can. Stephanie Lawrence with an NS. Lawrence. Much classier. You also, to some extent, it's like suggesting porn for people. I mean, you're like, do you like stepmother step well

what you want to do is you want to go to this one i mean is there always so like the thing that i think stuck out to a lot of people was in bridgerton there was a large plot about the male lead always pulling out right like which is like kind of sexually graphic to be a plot point, I think, for for like a high. Is that is that typical of romance novels to like have a sexually graphic sort of plot? For a while, it was about page 145 that they would that the sex scene would happen in a book of about 300 pages. So there would be usually some sort of touchy-touchy business right around page 45, 50, and then about 145 they'd get laid,

and then they'd spend the last half misunderstanding each other and then finally doing it again. Or they'd spend the whole middle of the book just doing it, doing it, doing it, doing it, some small misunderstanding, then reconciliation. It's one of the greatest things about romance novels.

Turns out there's always a happy ending. Yeah, gotta be. Both for him and for us. There you go. All right. Well, let's take a quick break and we will come back and talk about some news stories. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.

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listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And the hottest new souvenir from the year 2021 is the mouse mover, which is how you trick your boss into thinking you're still at your desk because that is important to them, apparently. Yeah. I mean, that's we've seen it. The this like obsession has gone from, you know, like bosses now in the work from home era seem to be more focused on things like if you're present rather than if you're productive. Right. Because we've seen all this stuff, like every single study that's come out of like the lockdowns and things have shown for people who have been able to work from home, you know, despite the stresses that it caused from if you're going from just a brutally productivity centric analysis, productivity has gone up. Yeah. And output has increased.

Yes. up yeah and output has increased yes yet there's still this like just fucking evil inst like insistence on being like well what's going on you doing you sleeping at at noon for 20 minutes even though you're also teaching kids like algebra in the other room that has also caused so much stress and i think that's why we've seen the rise of what many call bossware which are just different programs that are intended to track worker activity. And it's just gone up more and more and more. And you see it in things like, you know, a lot of people have found that they'll use, you know, apps like Teams or Slack. And on some instances, based on if you have like a computer owned by a company, they can put software on there that says like, oh, if your mouse isn't moving moving for like a minute then it's going to set your status to away and give you a little electrical charge and the thing

that they implanted in your neck right yeah exactly to the countdown it's like yeah it's like the fucking uh computer and lost that you have to punch the numbers in but yeah and then so this is like obviously led to you know uh bosses sending like humiliating emails or phone calls or they're just questioning someone's like they're like what are you doing it doesn't even seem like you're doing anything you even need a job that kind of stuff and yeah we're finding out that now workers are having to find a way to push back against this nonsense in the form of like you're saying a mouse mover a simple device a simple device pretends, that moves your mouse as you try to eat lunch. You're like, I'm going to go get another cup of coffee.

I'm going to go have a cigarette. I'm going to, you know, whatever you're going to do. Oh, what a bunch of assholes that they have to, we have to create these things. Because like you said, productivity is up. Yeah, that's not a, that hasn't been an issue. And I think, like you're saying, even, which is odd enough, because if you're in an office, many people will just smoke cigarettes to give themselves a reason to fucking take a break. And you don't see people being like, what are you smoking cigarettes?

It's just accepted because then there's like the idea. It's like, well, you came to the factory today. So at least I know if you're here, then you can't be helping your family do something navigate an incredibly stressful time right right yeah and it's you know that that sort of same i think that same perspective hasn't been adopted but these devices like they run the fucking gamut which is amazing because in the beginning there was a company that started in February of 2020, like a mouse mover company. And they just did it because they're like, we know people use it for like, if you're looking at many different screens for like data analysis or things like that,

sometimes you just want something like that. So the computer doesn't like, it might not have the function to know that you don't want it to go to sleep or something. So you use a mouse mover for that. But then this company just saw an exponential uptick in sales since April of 2020 when they realized, oh my God, I'm being watched in my own home. And the only way to combat this is if my mouse is moving. So they have mechanical ones that you just rest your mouse on and it just kind of goes left to right to just kind of keep it moving. They have usb devices you can plug in that will just tell your computer that there's like a mouse being moved so it will no matter what you can just

do whatever you need to but the observing eyes that be won't know and some they're also just youtube videos too i didn't realize that have like these moving graphics and you have like if you have an optical mouse it will actually like create like it'll create movement in the cursor again so you can just run a video and people are going to think your work that you're that you're doing something and what you're really doing is playing lord's water deep on steam but uh you know i also need to move my mouse for that right uh wow what why i've never understood i mean granted I do standup, so there's not a lot of oversight. Right. And, uh, but I never understood, you know, when I, when I had day jobs, why there was so many shit bags, right? Like why, what do you care?

Am I doing the job is like, I remember I used this stuff envelopes for some gig. I worked at a nonprofit and my boss told me how to stuff envelopes and address envelopes for this mailing. And she explained it, took 15, 16 minutes to explain it. And then she said, do you understand? And I said, mostly. I'm going to probably have to ask you two more times as I do this how to do it again. And she was like, what? And I said, yeah, I don't care. I mean, I don't get a lot of my self-esteem whether I got this right the first time. I just want to do it how you want it done.

Because I don't, like I would be really good as like a prep cook because I don't care how I cut the vegetables, but the chef does. And most people go to work, they don't want to take it home with them. We're not all inventors, right? So, yeah, I'll do it however you want. But then when it's done, don't stare at me. I'm going to do it and then get the hell out of my way. Yeah.

hell out of my way yeah there's we've talked before the theory of bullshit jobs essay and then book written by david graber that argues that like half of the jobs of societal work is like pointless and like just there to give people give like bosses people to boss around and i feel like this is a huge check mark in the like for that, because productivity, like you said, is up. So that's not what they're that's not what they're worrying about. They're worrying about whether you are being like whether the quality of your life is being diminished by their like power and control it's not anything about productivity and effectiveness yeah yeah or for people to recontextualize what it means to work too right because if you're like wait well i'm working but i'm also doing this other stuff why don't i do more of that you can't be feeling that comfortable because this whole financial system is based on the threat of homelessness and starvation to coerce you and to keep working. So I don't start loosening your definitions of what it means

to survive. We can't have that. So you better have that fucking mouse moving is, I don't know, very low stakes, but it's, it's one of these things that's been across the board, just been denounced. You know, the electronic frontier Foundation calls Bossware, you know, invasive, unnecessary, unethical. The Center for Democracy and Technology called it out as being, quote, actively detrimental to employees' health and demanding that, like, OSHA actually updates its policies so that, like, on worker safety,

to also include, like, at-home workers, just for, like, this kind of weird, you know, patrol, like, productivity patrol that also include like at home workers just for like this kind of weird you know patrol like productivity patrol that's like unnecessary right right because it's not like we're not all accepting that you know like there's a tv in this room this this ipad i don't know who else is watching but i've sort of accepted that i'm probably never alone. And there's cameras in this casino, in this hotel. But there's absolutely no reason for me, for anyone to check in and go, hey, by the way, I am watching you. I'm just like, well, the low-level hum of me being watched at all times is already there.

You don't need to poke it. Please don't prod that open world. I heard, yeah, the panopticon is real. All right, let's talk about Patriot Front real quick. So over the weekend, last weekend, about 100 members of this far-right group, Patriot Front, gathered in D.C. to do a little march, have a little speech about European diaspora

or whatever fucking code word they're using. Diaspora instead of colonialism. Nice work. That's the fun of it, right? We're a diasporic community. We like diversity in the European countries that our members come from.

That guy's vaguely pink actually this person's vaguely tan right but yeah yeah but this is the same group from charlottesville they just changed their name right right right vanguard or something right vanguard america and that's the guy alex fields who you remember was the man who killed heather hire he was decked out in their regalia of like you know khakis and like polo and at the time they were like well he's he wasn't they couldn't find that he was an official member but based on the images you're like well he was definitely around it and wanting to participate and i think that was enough for them to realize maybe a rebrand is in order so they became patriot front which is also really a really cool name as well.

Oh, it's got the word patriot in it. Yeah, exactly. And the flags were all upside down. Yeah, they love it because the United States is in distress. They're in distress. Right. And they're anti-maskers, but they're all masked up. It was 5 o'clock Tuesday.

So brave. But, you know, they do shit like security for neo-Nazis. It was 5 o'clock Tuesday. far-right extremism in this country yet again republicans were just lockstep in their what this always happens their confusion and denial about what this group is that very much intersects with their with their party and saying things like uh marjorie taylor uh gestapo she was even saying stuff like nope this is a quote from her, with an image of these people, said, no patriot group I've ever seen wears khakis, stormtrooper knee pads, and covers their faces like they're scared.

Uh-huh. Except everyone you talk to and get money from, you crazy, stupid shitbag of a human. I'm so full of rage. She's the worst.

I spend a good portion of my time going, oh, middle-aged white women. Great. 52% voted for Trump. Okay. Who do I punch? But yeah, these guys, so they were the vanguard ones from Charlottesville.

Yeah. That's nuts. And theans are pretending that they didn't that they've never heard of them they don't know who they are yeah van what don't know who who are wait you've been looking at my retirement a vanguard account what huh oh that's really the the tact here yeah for sure but they get it yeah the i feel like yeah the the republican party is like a white supremacist institution and like the the degree to which they're still be treated being treated as a as a viable second viable second party is an absolute crime like this yes yeah i mean there's a lot of oh man man, there was that Twitter thread, Jack, that I sent you earlier that I saw. It was very popular from this professor, Dr. William Horn, who is just talking about that.

I mean, this he did a whole thread about how what's happening right now and the like polarization and the fact that the Republicans are doing everything they can to completely upend or, you know, overturn whatever election results, they don't happen. You're saying this is actually kind of like worse than the Civil War. And let me tell you why. And one of the biggest things that stuck out to me was this insistence on the media and Democrats that they have a complete inability to say this thing like the Republicans have completely turned into this like ghoulish party that it's we're not even talking about how radicalized it's become the word bipartisanship is still used as if you're dealing with people of good faith and in general i mean for all the dose disappointment

there is for democratic leadership it's just you do see though too like especially on the news there's no full-throated sort of description of what the Republican Party is and what they're trying to do. It's just like they're becoming very aggressive with their gerrymandering efforts, but not saying this is because they're building the framework to completely kneecap the sort of democratic process that exists in the country. It's just always a few degrees short of that. And it leaves people completely like confused to know what's happening like right now in real time. Right. We're going to try and have that professor on. He teaches an entire course on like white backlash, the history of white rage and white backlash.

Didn't he write a book? Or doesn't he have a new book out that is that looked fascinated i can't remember the name of it demand the impossible i think is one of his or no that came out in 2018 but i mean right but yeah yeah i mean he was he the thread comes about because somebody's like so we're gonna dissolve into civil war. Right. And he's like, actually like that would be not the worst case. The worst case seems to be what's actually happening, which is that the white supremacy is becoming the mainstream option. And there isn't enough of a,

you know, pushback from anyone resisting established. Yeah. From establishment. And, you know, it's interesting because my new album, I have like a throwaway line that we're going through the laziest civil war right now that I've ever seen in my life. And it's a very, like, it's on brand.

You know, the only people right now. And I didn't put it on the album, but I said, where was I last week? I was in Raleigh, North Carolina. And I said, you know, I would tell you guys to pick up arms. Right. Because the only people right now shooting anybody are the bad guys. Right. The bad guys are the only one that are killing everybody.

And I would say, I would say that you should, you should raise arms except for that. I'm unwilling to do it. Right. Right. So I don't know how, I don't know how to fight people that are willing to shoot innocent people, like who are just willing to mow children down and people on the street. And the only joke that used to get a bigger laugh, what, six or seven years ago, used to get a good laugh, that the Germans are going to get to be the good guys in world war three.

Right. Right. Yeah. Cause if you miss the worst thing you ever did, you get to be the hero in the sequel. And they're the only ones paying reparations. So like literally paying reparations. Yeah.

Which is not a extreme position. It's like the right thing to do in like, yeah, there was, not a extreme position. It's like the right thing to do. Yeah. I saw some video where some dirtbag American dude was standing outside what I guess used to be the Reichstag and or is, I don't know anything about Berlin.

He did like the Nazi salute and some German pedestrian walked by him and punched him right in the face. It was one of the face. Right. It was one of the greatest. I love the, it was a great.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think it's, it's, I think it's just one of these moments too. Americans have never in, you know, the modern history had to really deal with some kind of issue,

like on the soil of America. You know what I mean? Like there's just, there's just it's it's not a it's not a problem solving it's not necessarily a problem solving skill people need but because of the relative stability there's just this utter lack of imagination for how bad things can get or how good things can be either so you're just dealing with a lot of so what happens is in this space right now where a lot of people are scratching their heads like is this bad like i don't think america could become a place where like they'll use the supreme court to create a caste system and an apartheid state wait they did

and they are so after the civil war after lots of people died and like to you know make it so that that wasn't the case they like there was the backlash and then the it became official law to in in the late 60s though there was a lot more rioting and a lot more and and real change happened it wasn't exponential actually it was exponential from what came before right right right but it it's obviously not enough and it's obviously there is this white supremacist backlash of well we're we're losing we're losing you know there's not enough of some it's this and plus nobody is putting on uniforms and lining up only the do doofuses of Vanguard Proud Front or Patriot Front or whatever are all wearing the same chinos like they work at Old Navy and lining up and carrying flags. The original Civil War was in a different time of warfare, right?

I mean, we are in a civil war because of guerrilla warfare, because of insurgency, because of terrorism. That's what we're in. I don't know how to, I mean, nobody's lining up. We're not going to all go stand. I'm not going to put on a blue hat. Well, I think that's what's, that's what will make this new, you know, part of history even more insidious if it's unfolding the way it looks like, which is there'll be people who are materially comfortable and can actually rationalize that they don't this. Yeah, things are bad, but it's not bad for me. And it's not bad enough that I need to upend my own relative stability to try and change something. Yeah. Try, try to get what is hilariously called the middle class to stand up because there is no middle class. There is only the wealthy, of which I am one of.

And I consider my wealth the fact that I live indoors, the fact that I can buy a pair of shoes and not look at the price. I mean, that's a real sign of wealth to me is that I can buy clothes and not have to be worried about how much they cost. I can, and it isn't the obscenity that is billionaires, but it is real. You know, the fact that I'm doing well. Yeah. And to try to get me to do something besides tweet, besides, besides you know go out and stand on a corner once every six months you know i used to do a lot more protesting in the in the 80s and 90s where i was on the street and it did not feel super effective like i was in the 80s i did a

lot of anti-apartheid protests at college and stuff and it it didn't feel like it did a lot right but it did help i did feel part of something you know it did feel like i was doing something which is a huge need in like i think loneliness is epidemic right now so like it does feel like there are like ways that like activism getting some community response like dual power, like they answer many questions that I think are being asked or aren't being asked enough. But, you know, many problems that we currently have. Right. All right. Let's let's take a break and come back and talk about some bullshit.

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a comprehensive look at like how this happens basically every year i do also want to just add that in sort of a coalescence of stories from our doc into a artful collage and arsonist climbed the christmas tree sculpture outside fox news headquarters and set it on fire. I'm like, that shit went up. So, yeah. And they're they are like, that's all they're talking about on Fox. But again, that's the point of that channel. Yeah, that's all they're talking about when, you know, three people just got murdered last week. You know, you're just like, that's the thing.

You're like, oh, they're's the thing you're like oh they're terrorists and you're like what about okay all right yeah well but i mean again that's the thing that when if that's like sort of like the momentum of how you take in the world like through fox you'll it'll it just conditions you to be outraged at the things that have nothing to do with you and completely ignore all of the things that absolutely are existential threats to your life. Yeah. Wow. So we've talked about a couple of the stories that are getting run this year. The Santa Claus shortage, which I've seen, like, it seemed like the implication was that it was like Fauci's fault

because the Santas didn't want to get vaccinated or they didn't want to have to wear masks because they wanted to be just face to face with children. The like germiest, most like spittle flecked humans in existence. They wanted those on their laps. Yeah. But the real reason somebody actually looked at it, the real reason why there is a shortage of Santa's compared to last year, not compared to like all time or, you know, it's a relative shortage, is that hundreds of Santas died of COVID. Right. A bunch of old guys. There were a bunch of old dudes who.

Cold morbidities. Yeah. And right, right. They're also not the healthiest dudes in the world. And they spend all their time around kids. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

Yeah. Did they? There was a big there was a big they killed. They died. The COVID killed them. Yeah. There's I mean, that's what they're saying, that there's just a lot of people used to work as Santas and years past who passed away from COVID or are hesitant to go to a job where, you know, germ ridden kids sit on their lap.

And after all their Santa friends died, I'm assuming they're all friends with one another. Yeah, that feels like a tight knit group. Yeah. I mean, they do have the Santa con, so I'm sure they know each other, know that like they're dropping like flies fox's online reporting mentioned the santa story and and even mentioned like and you know that there have been disproportionate number of deaths but they ended it at the they edited at the end of a uh sob story about how one woman couldn't get a santa for her country club party oh i think it's tear yeah yeah that's fucked up that's not fair that's not fair

to her or her country club yeah right or her country yeah yeah that is so brutal my brother has as uh he's in charge of the santa for his church in milwaukee and he said our santa is retiring and i was like i think that guy's been your Santa for almost 20 years. And I said, so how old is he? He goes, he's eight. And I was like, that guy gets to retire. You know, Ruth Bader Ginsburg gets to die. You people fuck off. These people are old. Right. Yeah. Yeah. What's next? Thanks a lot, Fauci. He's retiring. Yeah. He's 80.

He's 80. It turns out he'd like to sit down. Way to go, Joe Byron. So the one that got me, Christmas tree shortage. We got our Christmas tree extra early this year because. Oh, you got it? Just in case? Yeah, we got it.

Just because, you know, even I think NPR was saying, like, there's a Christmas tree shortage. And so, first of all, there are, like, slightly less Christmas trees for sale this year because of the extreme heat and flooding caused by climate change. But according to, like, the National Christmas Tree Association, which is a real thing that monitors the supply and demand for Christmas trees. According to them, there is no Christmas tree shortage. There was an oversupply of trees between 1995 and 2015, and the oversupply meant that farmers couldn't raise prices, which affected how many trees they could plant, which then led to the current system. So any like, there's a Christmas tree shortage story is actually, there's the right amount of Christmas trees.

Right. They might just sell them all. Right. With no leftovers. But yeah, Doug Hundley, I'm sure I don't have to tell you this, but he's the spokesman for the National Christmas Tree Association. He said the shortage talk has been going on for the fifth year now.

And those of us at the NCTA, National Christmas Tree Association, have tried to put water on that fire, but it just doesn't work. Which, shout out to, I heard the same thing was going on in fox news earlier yeah i just like that there's honesty in like this trade organization where they could have been like yeah i mean oh my gosh get out there reporting probably important to get your christmas tree as soon as possible and maybe buy two once you buy two yeah and uh no maybe not but they're like no no no no no no like maybe they're so they love the spirit of christmas they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like maybe they're so they love the spirit of Christmas. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's bountiful. It's plentiful. Everyone. No, right. It's fine. There's going to be some woman who has a really fancy job who goes back to her hometown and falls in love with the guy who runs the Christmas tree farm. i'm told but guys think about how it's affecting the wood chipper industry heading into christmas you know there's fewer trees that have to go into the wood chipper which that can't be good for i don't know john deere who who is a hero of ours here right yeah but it just means fewer trees

are being wasted but this is so jam like put together this list of just the past 10 years, like shortage panics around Christmas supplies. So we've got Wall Street Journal from 2016. There may not be enough eggnog this year. CNBC, spike in eggnog sales could lead to Christmas shortage. 2015, candy cane crisis. U.S. takeover leaves Canadian retailers short. Can we take this one by one? First of all, eggnog.

Has anyone ever wanted more than one fucking glass of eggnog in their lives? Oh, when I had, I would just have diarrhea from the amount of fat and how rich it was. It's just like, can we cut this with regular milk and then be done with it? And they only sell it in half gallons. And you're like, why, why isn't it sold in a tiny half and half thing so that I can then have anyway,

candy canes in Canada. Boo. I don't believe it's almost like wall street journal might have like some connections with wall Street or something. Some economic reason for creating. Not enough eggnog. What are we going to do? Yeah, just get the eggnog.

Oh my God, Elf's on a shelf are missing. Oh my God. Buy, buy. Drink. So 2015 candy can drought. Candy can crisis. U.S. takeover leaves Canadian retailers short. Takeover. Again, i love the wording there like we're fucking we've like advanced on their border or something yeah

yeah northern michigan just running over there we all remember 2008 you know as the year of the christmas mistletoe shortage oh mistletoe shortage. Oh, mistletoe shortage? Yes. The Telegraph. Christmas kissing at threat because of mistletoe shortage. Oh, I want to find people who write headlines and bury them alive.

Head first, paint their feet with honey, and then release ants. I find headlines to be the most infuriating. And wow. I mean, that's. Yeah. A lot of people say that led to the current financial crisis, you know?

Right. Well, that's actually, that's our hour. Jackie. What? It's been such a pleasure having you. And that's our hour. And that's our hour. And that's our hour. Jackie. What? It's been such a pleasure having you. And that's our hour. And that's our hour. And that's our hour.

Yes. Well, this has been a delight. You too. Yeah, it's so fun. First of all, can I tell you about that document you sent me and how it should be its own blog? Because it's hundreds of pages of current event. Like, I've already tweeted, Facebook posted, and sent via text at least five different links that are on that list going, did you see this Bluetooth phone that's a Fisher-Price thing? And I was like,

I don't know what I would do with it, but I want it. I don't know why I want it. I know. It's a living record, a living document. It is a living document. That was terrifying once I opened it, by the way. Because I hadn't got to the third paragraph, which said, we're not going to do it all. Don't worry about it. I had already read. Well, thank you so much for joining us.

This was truly a pleasure. Where can people find you and follow you? Oh, thanks so much for having me, you guys. And my name is Jackie Cation. And the name of my new album is Staycation. Get get it because we were all at home for a second and that's what the audience says when when you're done with your set staycation stay and then they all carry me off and and so cation is um but that's how you pronounce my last name and uh it's gonna do good work for people pronouncing my last name because it's uh and it and everywhere is pronouncing my last name because it's uh

and it and everywhere is just at jackiecation everything's free to listen to on all the places you listen to things you can watch uh videos of me doing stand-up on youtube and all the things and other than that i have the two podcasts but if you just go to jackiecation.com thank you very much is the dork forest a reference to the dark forest no the dork forest is a reference to a Thank you very much. And it turns out it was a Civil War reenactment guys. Oh, yeah. And so the bit itself is just sort of one of those list jokes where I list different dorky things that I have to go past to to get to the Civil War reenactment guys. So when I started the podcast, I was like, I kind of want to interview people about what they love. So the Dork Forest was born. There's a new sci-fi book it's like the second book in the three body problem trilogy that is about to be like a big show on hbo or what or netflix i think and it's called the dark forest

so oh right right oh so i look forward to that being mistaken for a thousand years. Yeah. If it's a hit. Well, you just tell people the truth that they based the second book of that series off of your podcast. That's right. Have you read the N.K. Jemisin Broken Earth trilogy? I haven't. No. Won the Hugo three years in a row. It's an amazing.

They're going to make a TV show out of that, too. It's amazing. Yeah. OK. I'm going to have to read that. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? The one that made me laugh

and made me angry yesterday was Brent Spiner, the guy who played Data on Next Trek, Star Trek The Next Generation. He tweeted something like, is this right? I spent a night in jail for parking tickets, but you can just say no to congressional subpoenas. And I was like, that was my current one yesterday that made me laugh and full of rage.

Right. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray and also the other podcast for 20 day fiance with Sophia Alexandria, where we just talk about our favorite show 90 day fiance in all its iterations. A tweet that I like first one is from make oxtail cheap again at C Sim Simas tweeted. They really had us baby millennials dressing business casual to go to the club. And for anybody who was hitting the clubs and the aughts and the tens, there was just the weirdest dress codes back then.

Yeah, you really had to look on some button up like leather shoe nonsense. And we were dressing. I mean, look, they were we were all being indoctrinated for our jobs as, you know, middling corporate workers. Then the next one is from Jen Richards at Smartass. Jen tweeted, hey, in case you weren't already feeling old today, I just heard an intern say they loved Succession's new weekly drop model and that it was a smart way to get people hooked. There you go. I mean, that is... It's fucking innovative. They're at the cutting edge of

content. Of reinventing television. Well done. They've done it. Alright, Derek, at Derek 818-533... I think that's their phone number, so I won't read the rest. Said, when someone is knighted by the Queen, they should have to fight

for the queen. They should have sent Paul McCartney to Iraq. Wish they had done that. And at Mark Dubs tweeted just got my fourth wall blown out by Kurt Vonnegut. Which I liked. You can find me on Twitter at

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