The Daily Zeitgeist - Yelp For Shook Ones, Budweiser Meat? 3.14.19

Episode Date: March 14, 2019

In episode 348, Jack and Miles are joined by writer and film critic Vince Mancini to discuss the top cities in the world, Budweiser's new meat line, if Joe Biden should run for president, Facebook being friendlier to Trump than we thought, Elizabeth Warren trying to regulate big tech companies, Trump's shady attempt to buy the Buffalo Bills, Yelp for conservatives, Jacob Wohl faking death threats, Manafort's sentence, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. QUALITY OF LIVING CITY RANKING2. No U.S. city cracks the top 30 on this well-regarded list of the world’s best places to live3. Budweiser and Coleman Partner for New Natural Meat Line4. The Old, White Giant5. Elizabeth Warren calls to break up Facebook, Google and Amazon6. Trump’s Big Tech Bluster7. Facebook backtracks after removing Warren ads calling for Facebook breakup8. Michael Cohen Claims Donald Trump Inflated His Net Worth by $4 Billion in Attempt to Buy Buffalo Bills9. New York Attorney General Opens Investigation of Trump Projects10. Inside Donald Trump's Shady Scheme to Keep Jon Bon Jovi from Buying the Buffalo Bills11. A Yelp-style app for conservatives wants to protect right-wingers from “socialist goon squads”12. Jacob Wohl Faked Death Threats Against Himself13. New York Charges Manafort With 16 Crimes. If He’s Convicted, Trump Can’t Pardon Him.14. WATCH: Donny McCaslin - The Opener ft. Sun Kil Moon (Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 73, episode four of The Daily Zeitgeist, the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Thursday, March 14th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack is a friend. O'Brien's been a good friend of mine. Lately, something's changed. It ain't hard to define.

Jack has got himself a take on the daily zeitgeist. Yeah, and he's launching them with his miles. Alright. That's all I got. No chorus? No chorus. That's where we cut it off. That's where Steve Mellerson cut it off. Thanks, Stephen.

Where can I find a podcast like that? And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I'm sorry, Judge Jackson. I was not real. Never meant to come to court and lie in jail is where I don't want to die. And that was Miss Jackson from the perspective of Paul Manafort because he got sentenced totally seven and a half years when all said and done, which Trump could pardon him for. But the state of New York decided to get real petty and immediately hit him with a 16 count indictment on state charges.

So did they have a very bad day? Did they have to wait to hit him with that? Like, was there something about the timing, or they just wanted to do it? I don't know. Oh, you think you're done. I'm sure some legal expert might tell me there could be some statute against that. I like to believe they were just like, we want to kick you at your lowest point. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Well, we are thrilled to be joined by the senior film and culture writer from Uproxx, founder of Film Drunk and the Frockcast. He also writes for GQ and The Ringer. Please welcome Vince Mancini. Hey, guys. What's up, man? I don't have a cool song to sing. Hey, that's all right.

You got a nickname? Ooh. I mean, my nickname's... Pantsini? Yeah, that's good. No, I got Linguini. Linguini. Oh, okay.

Of course. I got Gopher. Dance Machini. Oh, I wish. Okay. Linguine. I got gopher. Dance machini. Oh, I wish. Game genie. Uh-huh. I got, oh, and DNA.

Oh. That was a good one. Why DNA? Because I have hair that's curly in the front and straight in the back. And one of the guys I played basketball with said it's because I had messed up DNA. And they just kept hitting you, oh, that's DNA over there. Which I kind of appreciate it. I mean, if it burns good enough, you're like, all right, fair enough. You landed that one.

Just stick with that. Oh, that's amazing. Curling the front straight in the back. Wow. You ever figure out why that is? Just the messed up toxic gene cocktail, I think. All right, man. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today.

We're talking about where American cities came in on the list of the best places around the world to live. Hint, they did not crack the top 20. There were five, I believe, five Canadian cities before the first U.S. city. Yeah, I believe that. We're also going to talk about how Budweiser just does not understand their brand at all. We're going to talk about Biden being close to announcing. We're going to talk about Facebook and how it might tie into the 2020 election. how it might tie into the 2020 election. And we're going to talk about the president's,

right before he decided to run for office, what he was up to. He was trying to buy the Buffalo Bills via a fake uprising in the city of Buffalo. So we're going to talk about that. It's an amazing story. And also conservative victimhood and how conservatives are dealing with the fact that they are the most persecuted people in these United States. And the history of the world, actually. Yeah, that's true. But first, Vince, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I wish I did more searches.

I don't think there's anything revealing about me. The last thing I searched on Twitter was Pelosi impeachment, because I was trying to figure out, you know when you get the crumbs of a news story and then you got to figure out what everybody's making jokes about? So I was kind of doing that. I was trying to trace the steps of the internet. What'd you find out? Who's Pelosi? She is a lady that's in Congress. I think she used to be my congressman. The lady. Okay. That could be a soul sign. Was it the story of her saying she doesn't want to impeach, that he's not worth it? Yeah, she does this thing that all really inspiring political leaders do,

is that they tell you what's not feasible before they ask for anything. Right. They start off, they're like, hey, i think you guys should not expect too much from me right yes of course so yeah we know who pelosi is what's a peach mint a peach mint is like it's a type of gum that combines both the peach flavors and well i got a lot of learning to do what is something you think is underrated uh Underrated? I think audio books are underrated. Okay. I like to – audio books and podcasts, you know.

I like to be doing chores while I'm experiencing my content. Yeah. Yeah. Getting shit done. What do you use for your audio books? I use Audible. I know there's a library program that supposedly can get all the audio books from the library for free, but I haven't gone down to the library to get that done yet. Yeah, the last time I was at a public library,

they just had like a big audio book CD library. Like just one? No, but you had to like rip the CD in order to listen to it on any sort of listening device. It wasn't that long ago. It was like 2010. Yeah, I used to check out the CDs and listen to them on my six CD changer in my car that I had at the time. There you go.

And put it in the trunk, which was... Oh, man. Yeah. And put it on shuffle, so it's like a real naked lunch type of thing where you're just all over the place. Which chapter is it going to be? I don't know. What kind of books do you listen to? I mean, as far as audiobooks, I find just a lot of like facty nonfiction.

Yeah, yeah. That's my thing too. What's the best fact in a nonfiction book you've read in the past year? Or listened to? Ooh. Yeah. It's reading with your ears. My mom wouldn't agree.

I remember one time I tried to get an audiobook of like To Kill a Mockingbird or something when I was in school and she's like, what is this for? And I was like, so I know that I can read the books. She's like, you're not reading. Yeah. That's when you're still trying to train yourself. Yeah, no. And I was very early on trying to cut them corners.

If I was better at reading while mowing the lawn, I would definitely do that. But it's hard. OK, but back to you. Yes. What is the best non-facty book or facty book? Well, okay, so a new one I read this year was Boomtown. I think it's sort of new.

It was like the one about Oklahoma City, and it's a lot more interesting than you would think than just a book about a city, but it was really good, and I think it's going to come up later in one of the stories you're talking about today. And then an older one I read or listened to. I feel like you can you say read? You can say read. Yes, please. I read.

I mean, semantically speaking, I mean, by definition, what does read to read mean? It means to take information from a source into your brain. OK, so it doesn't have to be visually. Yeah, man, I'm reading your face right now. and it's saying that you don't buy this shit. No, no, no. That's drag queen slang. Right, right. That's a different kind of read.

If you look by a Webster, look at and comprehend the meaning of written or printed matter by mentally interpreting the characters or symbols of which it is composed. World's changed a lot. I mean, I still call it reading. I don't know why I'm debating it because I think it's still the same shit. So I read cover to cover every single word. Yes.

With the pages in your fingers. There's a new version of The Right Stuff and it has Dennis Quaid reading it. And that's just a good, strong audiobook. I'm very picky about my audiobook readers. I don't like it when they get an actor and the actor thinks that he's doing a monologue where he has to pretend that he's coming up with the words on the fly.

And it's like, no, dude, this is a book. Just read it to me. Right. We know you have a script. You have the book in front of you. Do the character's voices, but your narration should not be a thing that you have to emote during. Right. Yeah.

Don't make it about yourself. Just you are supposed to disappear as soon as possible. And it should just be us in the book. What is something you think is overrated? On the flip side of that coin, I think TV and movies are overrated. Okay. Yeah. This is the part of the year.

I mean, I am a film critic and I feel like this is the time of the year every year where I wonder like if I'm ever going to see a good movie ever again. It's like always the bad movies in January, February. Right after award season's over, they're like, now you get the crap trough.

We're going to shit into your eyes. Get ready. Is there anything you're looking forward to? I am looking forward to that Triple Frontier that just hit Netflix today. I don't know if I'm smart for looking forward to? I am looking forward to that triple frontier that just hit Netflix today. I don't know if I'm smart for looking forward to that. Oh, Ben Affleck? Yeah.

One more job? Yeah. One more. Oh, it came out. Oh, I got to get on that. It looks to me like this video game, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Wildlands, as a movie. Because it's like Special Forces dudes stealing drug money, just doing wildly illegal shit in Central America. Yeah, you know, history.

I like Ben Affleck because he doesn't look good in costumes anymore. No matter what he puts on, he just looks like a dad at a costume party. And I feel that. I recognize that. Yeah, a little puffy. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? What is a myth?

What's something people think is true you know to be false? Well, you know, I was watching that new version of Queer Eye for the straight guy, and he's always telling people, the hair guy, he's always telling people to put the gel on or put product in back to front. Back to front? Yeah. Interesting. And I feel like that's just wrong. That doesn't work for you, DNA.

You put it front to back because you want people to see the front of you. Wait, what do you mean back to front? I don't have hair. You put the product in the back and then you move it forward. Oh, like you concentrate in the back and then just begin shifting it to the front? Yeah, I think so. That's what I got from the show.

I've tried it a few times. It doesn't work for me. I think maybe the idea is that they don't want people to go all the product in the like front quarter of their head. And then it's just, it looks bad, you know? Okay. I get really about even distribution of product. Don't just concentrate on the glamor hairs. Kind of like the hair version of when you're writing an article and you just rewrite the first paragraph over and over 17 times. And then the rest of it is just like a brutal rough draft yeah you know yeah

yeah all right man well i think we know you now uh let's get into the best places in this world to live i guess it's a hr company mercer, that ranks all the different cities around the world in terms of livability. And people usually pay attention to the top 20. And you will not find a U.S. city in that top 20. What was the top U.S. city? The top U.S. city was San Francisco and came in at a cool 34 oh boy it's a great city to live in if you have 34 million yeah exactly it's a weird list uh boston i guess if it's u.s cities then boston honolulu new york seattle chicago dc philly and pittsburgh yeah i do think they are

assuming a certain amount of disposable income on the behalf of the people who they're talking to because they are like placing professionals in these cities like that's what they do and so that's kind of what who they're speaking to who they're thinking about i mean but the things they're ranking based on are recreation, housing, medical and health considerations, school and education, public services and transport. So they are all things that we look for. Well, I mean, Geneva is famously known for being a very affordable place to live, as is Zurich and Basel. There's three Swiss cities. I mean, I would love to go.

Shout out to Vancouver at number three. Vancouver is number three. BC, Zeitgang. It's pretty wild because natural environment is also one of the things that they take into consideration. And there are five Canadian cities on the list before you get to a single U.S. city. You've got Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, Ottawa, and Calgary, which are all frigid nightmares, I'd imagine. Ottawa with a bullet.

Wow. I was not expecting that one. Ottawa, baby. Yeah, where they skate to work. Yeah. You know? I like Ottawa because you can't say it without a Canadian accent. It sort of forces you into, oh, I'm from Ottawa.

Yeah. Ottawa, eh? I really, look, I'm glad Sydney's on there next to Amsterdam. Mm-hmm. Wellington, New Zealand. Sounds great too. Yeah. Yeah.

What was the top two? The top two are Vienna and Zurich. Oh. Other top U.S. cities. And, you know, the U.S. cities start coming pretty fast in Furious after 34. You got Boston at 36. Honolulu at 37. You don't say New York is at 44.

New York is the only city that has moved up in the rankings. All other U.S. cities have gone down, and they credit that with just the rise of, I think they said populism? I was going to say the machines. Right, the rise of the, I think they said machines. I'm just glad LA's not on there. You know, people don't need to come out here. The traffic's fucked. LA's on there.

We're at 66. Ooh. We're tied with Houston and Miami. 866. Hey, I like Houston. I like Papa Do's. Yeah. I like Poncho Train sauce.

Right behind Atlanta. Yeah. So I Papa Do's. Yeah. I like Ponchatrain sauce. Right behind Atlanta. Yeah. So I don't know. It does seem like a suspiciously white group of cities that have scored high on this ranking. Yeah, but not a lot of color in Zurich, I'd imagine. Right. Yeah, I don't think so. Let's talk about a corporation that does not understand what we see in them.

And that is the Budweiser corporation they have released a product they've released a line of products uh that okay they've just announced them so you probably these probably will never hit your shelves but they uh have announced with with confidence uh that they will be releasing a line of meat products. And one of those meat products is Budweiser pulled pork. It's everything. No, it's a whole line of Budweiser meats. I know, man. But Budweiser pulled pork is so gross to me.

Does Budweiser, is there Budweiser in the pulled pork? Like, do they use it as a braise at all? I think that must be what it is, right? They say it's using like brewmaster sauce, whatever the fuck that is. I mean, to be honest, like, beer does help in the cooking of these kinds of things. Not Budweiser. I think it's funny that they have, like, their whole ad campaign now is to position themselves as, like, anti-foodie and, like, anti-connoisseur, basically. And they're like, well, well no but check out our line of

artisan meats well this is the thing what are you talking about I thought this was for the many not the few they're trying to capture millennials like in the press release it says Budweiser is an iconic brand that is recognized throughout the US with impressive advertising and marketing and it's they're teaming up with this group Coleman Natural Foods who is actually

making the meat and it says the Coleman and Budweiser partnership will help create awareness for the millennial consumers to stop and shop in the processed meat case. Now, this smacks again of old motherfuckers thinking like, how do we get these millennials? How do we reach these kids? Because if they knew this generation, yeah, you know we love Budweiser and processed meats. Like, come the fuck on. We already know we're killing the beer industry.

Right. And they're very health-conscious people. You know, I think the sort of snarky perception is like all millennials are like, oh, they only eat like grass and things that don't cast shadows. Right. But, yeah, I don't know. It's just funny to me, and it just smacks of like some pitch guy really being like, this is the next wave for you guys, Budweiser.

This reminds me of that leaked document from the Pepsi logo design. It's just somebody selling complete rubes who are running a company, like something that is just bullshit, but they get away with it by being like, no, man, it's what the kids are into. Right.

Yeah. Being the ambassador to youth culture is always a lucrative position because you can just convince business people of anything. Right. Well, which is what's funny about this last one, one of the founders of this family, Ranch the Coleman's, the way this line is in the press release, it just smacks of like the thing the marketing people told him because he says, this is a quote from him. Introducing classic Coleman natural Budweiser products to a new younger audience will bring

generations of consumers from the beer aisle to the prepared meat case. Our great tasting product and recipes will continue to bring them back time and time again. The fuck they will. Right. I'm sorry, Coleman. But, you know, on the- Does your grocery have a prepared meat case?

I just think of it as that weird part of the meat case where, like, the Johnsonville brats are. It's like Oscar Mayer and shit, right? Well, I don't know about the- at the grocery stores I go to, the hot dogs are in a different area than, like, the Lloyd's pre-made you know sloppy joe shit or whatever that stuff is okay anyway uh the one thing i will give them though is they're pretty actually this the foods themselves they're trying to be pretty health conscious because saying it's slow roasted all-natural coleman pork which contains no antibiotics ever no added

hormones 100 crate free pork raised by cole Farmers, fed an all-vegetarian diet with no animal byproducts. So I feel like they knew that part. I would be like, oh, okay. I see what's going on. And then I'm like, wait, Budweiser spare ribs? Yeah. Well, Budweiser's doing the whole no corn syrup thing.

So now they're trying to position themselves as a health food also. Right, Exactly. Yes. The healthiest. You know, if they were smart, I would be drinking Bud Light pulled pork. Yeah. That is the only way this could be grosser. I feel like they are very confused, whereas Coors Light has been selling the idea that their beer is colder.

Right. For like 35 years. And that's, I mean, you just find that and you stick with it. This just smacks of them grasping at straws, you know? It really is an amazing campaign, the Coors Light one, because it's basically, look, you don't want to taste our beer. You want to just experience it like a shard of ice going down your throat. Slicing your esophagus. Right.

Where you don't realize you've drank it because you're just too distracted by its temperature. Our beer evokes the image of 500-foot-tall Gen Xers playing football in the mountains. Right. Do you remember those commercials? It was always just gigantic humans fucking around in the Rockies. I'm like, I guess this is a wave. I like it when it would just start snowing and then everything got awesome. Right, right.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, because someone would like open one or something? Yeah, they crack one open and then suddenly like everybody's tops coming off. It's weird because it was like the snow would come down, but then people would take clothes off somehow. Yeah, yeah. Because that's how we get down in Coors Lighttown. Yeah, that's right, man.

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Yes, he can gain the trust of maybe some of these blue collar Democrats that voted for Trump. Yes, he has said some wild racist, super predator type shit. Yes, he looked like a disgusting misogynist when he questioned Anita Hill. Yes, he is too much of a centrist to energize this progressive base. Yes, he opposed school integration in the 70s. Yes, he supported the Iraq war.

Look, I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. Look, the nation is a clamor for a used car salesman with a bad fake tan. Yeah. Right. So clearly you fight fire with fire. Yeah.

Just go orange on orange. Yeah. It's just one of those things where it's funny. Like, yes, he is obviously pulling the highest out of anyone, even though he hasn't actually entered the race. But it's like, I feel like the establishment Democrats just really want him because they're like, look, we can kind of maybe get a hold of this thing. And maybe if we force him through, progressives aren't going to not vote for him if he's the nominee. You know

what I mean? Because they know it'll be easier to convince progressives that, well, if it's a binary choice between Trump and Biden, what are you going to do? But little does he know, or the DNC realized that is not where the momentum is going in the base, like back to the middle. Yeah. I mean, at the same time, it could be a thing where all of the progressive candidates split all of the energized base, and then Biden just gets all those standard run-of-the-mill centrist Democrats from back in the day. I think people are like, well, Bernie, he's too old and white. You know who we need? Joe Biden.

An older guy. Get him back. Yeah. Well, you know, I think the other thing will be interesting is just, you know, like Hillary had to discuss her super predator comments. Joe Biden was a lover of mass incarceration. So he's got some explaining to do. But I just feel like, you know, because this country already has, you know, very little enthusiasm for reconciling our history of racism.

I don't know that Biden will actually be meant to like held to meaningfully account for his past views. But, you know, especially also the establishment apologists will be like, well, he was the black guy's best friend for eight years as vice president. So, I mean. I mean, in a perfect world, he would be the Republican candidate. He would be like the one where it's like, oh, if he wins, like we'd live with that. Oh, yeah. God, I would love that. Exactly.

Yeah. We're in a different time now. Yeah. So we'll see. I think there was a point where people were like, well, he's probably got the best chance to beat Trump. And so that's why I would tolerate him. Well, he's probably got the best chance to beat Trump.

And so that's why I would tolerate him. But I don't even know that that's true or that he even has a legitimate claim to the throne at this point. It's just that whole thing like up top I was saying. It's just polling, great. But, you know, we saw we're polling Goddard last time around. And then also like the idea that he really does appeal to like, Rust Belt Democrats that the DNC totally forgot about in 2016 and overlooked. Right. But even then, I feel like there are plenty—I'm sure there are plenty of candidates who are really great speakers, have a lot of energy, some charisma that could probably bring those people in. But, yeah.

Yeah. And electability is such a, you know, it's a vague term that the media can use to just be racist and sexist, basically. To just be like, well, he's the most electable. Yeah. And everyone's so just nostalgic for the Obama era that anyone that reminds them of that. Right. It's like a beautiful, nostalgic dream that they get to have for a while. Right. Ilhan Omar.

She's not nostalgic for that shit. No, she's not. She came for him. She's great. But you can tell there's all these, like, you know, establishment sycophants in his ear. for a while right ilhan omar she's not nostalgic for that no she's not she came for him and i yeah great and but you can tell like there's all these like you know establishment sycophants in his you're like yeah man the people fucking they're they're dying for you it's like yo no they're not they're actually not i mean there are people that are but there's a lot i mean when you look at like all the younger voters consultants with lanyards yeah telling them that. Right. And I think when you see the crop of young voters that are going to be up for grabs in 2020,

a lot of them aren't going to be as nostalgic for Joe Biden. But, you know, I just want – let's just have these debates. Let's get messy. Let's see somebody drag out Joe Biden's old comments, see how he handles that. Yeah. And we'll see what happens. Yeah. I hope it's not him.

It just depends if you see the Obama era as like a simpler bygone time or like the time that handed Trump a drone program. Right. Exactly. Let's talk about the 2020 election because Elizabeth Warren last week announced that she wants to regulate Facebook, Google and Amazon basically out of existence. She wants to break up the monopolies. I think the only complaint there would be people being like, but Amazon brings me shit. And other than that, I think everybody would be good with that. Yeah, break it up.

Give everybody their reasonable Amazon or something. I don't know how that works. I don't either. But they have too much power, yes. Amazon Bell. know how that works i don't but they have too much power yes amazon bell and they also get those products to your doorstep in record time via just treating people like behind the scenes in warehouses various places that you can't see but anyways the fact that she's angling to you know do this against the guy who facebook supposedly accidentally helped elect uh

sets us up for facebook to like drag their feet and fixing some of the problems that helped him right uh win in 2016 and the new york times pointed out the trump administration despite him being real anti-tech in front of the media, is actually extremely favorable to tech monopolies like Google and Facebook. They have a guy in charge of regulating them who is basically the most, his name is Makan del Rahim. He is the most friendly to those companies that he could have possibly put in charge of the antitrust division of the department of justice. So they're good.

MySpace Tom, basically. Yeah. They basically put MySpace Tom in that position. Right. And yeah, I mean the, the scary thing about Facebook is,

you know, even though we are now onto them, it's still impossible to track for the most part. Like I've heard it described as propaganda megaphone in your ear that I can't hear. And, you know, I think that's pretty accurate. That's why I think it was easy for everyone to be blindsided by the results of the 2016 election is we weren't aware of what was happening in millions and millions of people's news feeds uh you know or just like on social media in general i think we need to have a campaign to like for people to commandeer their parents uh facebook feeds right and just like

yeah start just start liking stuff that's not weird fox News dad memes. Right. Because I feel like that is – because younger – people younger than like 45, I don't think are out there getting their news from their Facebook feed. Yeah. But then like my people my parents' age, you know, they'll just spout a meme like it came from the New York Times. Right. Right. Yeah. See, we need a new form of parental controls.

Yes. Where we can control what our parents are saying. Like, we're going to change the meaning of the parental advisory. Right, exactly. Wait, so is she just trying, she's just saying, like, break them up? Yeah, and she, I mean, she, no, she's not just saying break them up. She has a very detailed, you know, plan. As, like, a lot of the stuff she comes out with is, like, really thoroughly thought out.

But she has a lot of just, you know, except for saying she's a native American. Right. Right. Uh, but like when it comes to actual things of substance that aren't just silly. Oh,

really? What? Her, her claim that she's a, okay, my bad. My bad. I mean,

I know what you're saying, but I just want to call that out with like that i think that's substantive it's a substance that you would go around for years telling people like oh yeah i'm nato-american yeah no that's definitely to help me uh get in this school right for your diversity numbers yeah but she atoned i guess but oh yeah she is one of the people totally behind her and it will never be raised if she wins the nomination yeah she's one of the she's one of the candidates I really, really like. Yeah.

I just hope a lot of people can tell that her ideas are actually very good. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what's more racist, just being like her saying that she's Native American or everybody immediately being like, oh, look at her. She's so white. Right. It's like, well, how do you know she's not Native American? Right.

I don't know. Yeah. I'm not doing her genealogy. That whole story, though, seems like it's all just playground, schoolyard shit. It's just like he called her a name, and then she responded, and everyone's like, oh, shit. And then she ended up looking stupid. But her plan calls for legislation that would feature a new business category for companies with more than $25 billion of global revenue. That sounds fair, yeah. Yeah, they should maybe be in a different category.

And they would basically be called platform utilities. And they would be regulated almost like utility companies. Ah. Which is an interesting idea. They would have to meet a standard of fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory dealings with users. They would also not be allowed to share data with other companies, which are both ideas. Sounds great so far. Yeah. And Facebook loved this, right? Yeah. Her campaign or people who support her put up ads saying, break up Facebook, courtesy

of Elizabeth Warren or whatever. And Facebook took those ads down. Well, I mean, are we surprised? Then they immediately came out and were like, we're sorry, we don't know. Standard Facebook rhythm of

we doing something just completely reprehensible and then apologizing for it. Right. Like if you post about like a hate crime, Facebook will be like, oh, we didn't see that. Like we don't have enough people to regulate that. Right. But then if you put up an ad that says stop Facebook. Right. Oh, we're going to delete that right away.

What do you think? That person is gone. But then once Politico, they reported that they had to backtrack, and they were like, oh, well, we actually took it down because it had a logo in it. Oh, okay. But we're going to put them back up because we're all about robust debate was the word they used.

Robust debate. So, yeah, it's just definitely worth keeping an eye on. If they get so messy and they're like, all right, you know what? We're going to have to help Trump out again. Right. We can't let this happen. She's going to break up our money, bro. Yeah. I mean, they definitely helped Trump out. And like the standard narrative that came out was, oh, well, we offered like people, we, we offered internal Facebook consultants to the Trump campaign and the Clinton campaign. And Clinton just said no. And that may well be the case, but it's still Facebook was a huge part of Trump shocking the world.

The only time that campaign ever said no to more consultants. Right. That's right. All right, let's talk about the president's attempt to buy the Buffalo Bills back before he decided to run for president. This is just a wild story. Yeah. Who would have thought that Trump always likes to use shady stuff no matter what it is, whether it's real estate or covering up affairs or even something that seems as straightforward as simply just buying a NFL team.

Right. I mean, this has been his white whale since like the 80s, right? Right. He was like, he had a USFL team and he was trying to leverage that. He got the USFL team because they wouldn't let him buy an NFL team. Right. And then he tried to leverage the USFL team into an NFL team and it ended up killing the entire league.

Right. Yeah. He wanted to have it be like an ABA thing where they merge with the league. So he was like, yeah, we're going to take the USFL and put it at the same time as the NFL. And they're going to be so sorry. Yeah. They're going to be so discredited.

And then just nobody ever watched the USFL ever again. And yeah, he's a brilliant business person. Yeah. Well, I think the reason this story came back up is because when Michael Cohen was testifying, he talked about, oh, Trump also inflated his assets by $4 billion, so you get a loan from Deutsche Bank to buy the bills. And what we're figuring out now, or as our writer, JM, was pointing out from old articles that were written about this time, it was down to like a three-person bidding war over the bills. It was the guy who owns the Buffalo Sabres, Donald Trump, and then Jon Bon Jovi and like a consortium of rich guys from Toronto or Canada basically who are going to buy it. And Trump tried – he figured out a way to basically poison the well for

Jon Bon Jovi. Yeah. So he created a false flag group of Bills fans. Basically this group of Bills fans called themselves 12th Man Thunder. And they started doing protests, like establishing Bon Jovi free zones in local bars. And like one time a cover band tried to play some Bon Jovi music and they got like booed off the stage. Yeah. I kind of like these guys so far. Yeah. So it turns out there was nothing organic about this grassroots movement. It was purely astroturfed, Donald Trump fronted affair just to basically make people... The idea that he was trying to get out was that Bon Jovi and his Canadian business partners were going to move the bills to Toronto.

Yeah. And take away your precious bulls or bills. Bills. Yeah. Yeah. And I think it was just, you know, it's right on track, baby. Just xenophobia. Yeah.

Like these Canadians are going to fuck up the bills. I mean, the border war. Are the Buffalo Bills like the root of all white nationalism? I mean, like, so if Trump buys the bills, maybe he doesn't run for president. Right. Also, like, Timothy McVeigh bet $1,000 on the bills in the fourth Super Bowl that they were in and lost it. Yeah, this was a story. Actually, it's from Boomtown, the book I mentioned earlier.

But yeah, so Timothy McVeigh was like this lifelong Buffalo Bills fan, and he bet $1,000, supposedly like the last money he had, because he's like, there's no way they're going to lose another time. Right. And then he like lost it all, and supposedly that like helped him spiral down into a crazy Turner Diaries obsessive guy. Wow. Yeah, because I think right after Trump lost his bid for the bills, he launched his presidential campaign nine months later.

Yeah. If we would have just given him an NFL team, I feel like the country, if it was like, all right, so Trump, you can either have Trump as president or as an NFL owner. We would have been like, well, sure, give him an NFL team. He's perfect as an NFL owner. Right. Isn't it really Don Beebe's fault? You know what I mean? Because wasn't he the one holding the fucking football up

and then Leon Lett just fucking bashed that shit out on the one yard line when he was like feeling himself too much? I mean, that's really what we need to be looking at. Him or Scott Norwood. Right. Is he the kicker who missed the kick? Wide right. Was Don Beebe in the second Super Bowl?

That was the second time? I don't remember. I just remember in my Sports Illustrated for kids, it was in my worst moment ever illustrated part. And I was like, damn, Don Beebe. I've never fucking let that go as a kid. Thank you to Sports Illustrated for kids. The perforated trading cards in the middle were kind of shitty.

They were terrible. Yeah. And I loved cards. I love trading cards. So when I was like, oh, it comes with cards. And I'm like, what the fuck is this perforated trading cards in the middle were kind of shitty they were terrible yeah and i loved cards i love trading cards so when i was like oh it comes with cards i'm like what the fuck is this perforated bullshit my upper deck at but anyway so this group right the crazy thing is this the trump hired this guy michael caputo who like like helped oliver north out during the all the iran contra stuff he was like, boosting the careers of Boris Yeltsin and fucking Putin. Right. So then he's like, oh, perfect.

I need you to fucking destroy Bon Jovi. And, yeah, it was just amazing, like, you know, using political operatives who were, like, real good friends with Roger Stone and shit. I just love the idea of the astroturfed anti-Bon Jovi group. Right. Yeah, especially, like, how are you going to get a bar to be a Bon Jovi free zone? That's impossible. Living on a prayer comes, what the fuck?

In the United States, that cannot be done. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Drunk people love Bon Jovi. Right. And then the,

the, the wild part, the, the guy who fronted this organization, this guy Caputo, he found a double amputee cancer survivor to be the face of the organization because he was basically saying like, yo, if he's at the front, who's going to criticize you? You're a double amputee cancer survivor. And the thing was the university,

was the university of Texas? I have no legs. Or Texas A&M. Yeah. They sued, they hit him with a cease and desist because they're like, we actually trademarked the phrase the 12th man, so we're going to hit you with a cease and desist. And Caputo immediately marks the guy out there and he's like, look what they're doing. Texas A&M suing a fan who's a double amputee cancer survivor. They're sick. Keith Olbermann even hopped on.

He's like, they're the worst people in sports. I don't remember that, actually. Well, and then to make it up, they get Texas A&M to donate $25,000, you know, to help this organization, quote, stop the Canadians from buying their team. And then as like a sort of like, look, we'll settle. We'll just change our name to Bills Fan Thunder.

And, you know, still, again, circulating petitions around the city, keep the team in Buffalo. Again, something that was never uttered by Bon Jovi or these Canadian business people that are interested in buying the team. They never for once said, we have any interest. Like, no, we just want to buy the Buffalo Bills and own this team. Yeah, Bon Jovi was talking about moving to Buffalo.

Right, right, right. The only thing that was Canadian about the entire thing was that his business partners were from Toronto, and then Trump was like, oh, we're going to fucking use that. Yeah. They're foreigners? Ugh. Yeah.

He's got a gift. This does kind of make me think of him as more of an evil genius than I did going into this story. Well, he's just – I think that's just always his tactic. You know what I mean? If I don't like someone, let me create some fake outrage about him. And it's also kind of the U.S.'s playbook in general when they want to topple foreign governments. It's like how do I astroturf some outrage in this country or whatever? Most of the time.

some outrage in this country or whatever. Most of the day. Anyway, so yeah. Is the Buffalo Bills the node that all the evil energy travels through? I think, yeah, it has to be. It's so weird to actually think about these little things, right? Yeah. Of like the Buffalo Bills winning the Super Bowl and that connection to Timothy McVeigh.

If Trump owned it, would he have been too distracted to try and run for president? Oh, yeah, definitely. And he probably would have put the bills, like the bills wouldn't exist anymore. We can all agree on that. Somehow, right? It barely exists now. Yeah. He would have driven that franchise into the ground, the first NFL franchise to go out of business in the modern era. Like nobody wanted the golden seat package where the seats were made of gold. It was either he got to experiment as the like an experiment in failure as the owner

of the Bills or as the president of the United States. And we got the shit end of that stick. Shout out to the Bills backers. Congratulations to the Bills backers. You know what I mean? At least you're safe. Congratulations to the Bills. Yeah. Hey, and thank you for the Buffalo Wings, too. Yeah, absolutely.

And salt potatoes? Yeah, and white nationalism. What are salt potatoes? Actually, that's Syracuse, my bad. What's a salt potato? It's just you boil potatoes in water that is basically saturated with salt and they're really good.

Really? Yeah. It's just a boiled salty potato? Yeah. God. And then you butter them. They're incredible. Wow.

Highly recommend. All right. Salt potatoes. Dinosaur barbecue in New York is like a Syracuse barbecue joint. Oh, yeah. They do them. Right. You can get that on that website.

I'm not doing that. I thought that's just how you boiled all vegetables. Well, this is like apparently it's a lot of salt. Yeah. It's like the amount of salt that you would usually see used during a snowstorm. I think, in fact, that's how it came to be in Buffalo. It's just they had a little extra. They had been spreading on the streets.

They're served in the summer when the young potatoes are first harvested. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes. Well, I would love to have some salt potatoes for dinner tonight. I think we're all learning a little bit about Buffalo. Yes, Syracuse. All right, we're going to take a quick break.

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Somebody saw that and was like, I smell money. Yeah. We need a green book for Republicans. Yeah. So that's basically what they have created. I mean, yeah. Yelp for scared conservatives. Right.

And they love to pretend that they're African-American or in the LGBTQ community or Muslims or something. So they can be like, oh, I mean, look at what we're going through, though. Right. I wear a MAGA hat and I'm racist all of a sudden. Wow. Okay. Well, yes, there is a thing called 63 Red Safe, which is a terrible fucking name. I have no idea what the fuck that means.

It just sounds like some shit that an NFL quarterback would yell out. 63 Red Safe! Lightning, lightning, lightning! So it's an app, like you said, you can basically assess a business over how likely you are to be genocided by socialist Antifa if you go there. And this is a clip where you can hear the creator talk about it first. And let's talk about it on the other side. I've seen this described as Yelp for conservatives. But Scott, on the locations that are deemed unsafe, and that one right there is safe,

what went into saying they're not safe? unsafe and that one right there is safe. What went into saying they're not safe? Sure. Well, you know, users can review the local businesses and restaurants. It's just four quick questions. Yes or no questions. Number one, does this location serve all customers, regardless of political beliefs? Will they protect their customers if they're under attack by others in the restaurant? There's a concealed carry question. And does the location have a political presence in their social media? Again, we're trying to get politics out of these businesses. We want businesses to understand that there's no money in politics. And we're working to call them out on it.

People just want to go out and eat. People just want to go out and eat. They just want to go out and shop. Let's not mix the two. There's sort of a general unease among conservatives, and we want to make sure everyone's safe out there. I mean, those four questions can actually be distilled down to, one, do they bang with racists? Right.

Yes or no? Okay. Two, will they intervene if you're attacked for screaming shit like, speak English, we speak English in America. Three, can you bring your strap? He really glossed over that one fast. He was like, there's a concealed carry question. And four. Can you keep that thing on you?

Mm-hmm. And does the business, are they cucks? Is number four, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, wow. Do they need a safe space where I can carry my gun? Yeah. Right.

Well, you know, I hope this leads more people to not go places where people are going to stand up to racism and bigotry. Yeah. Essentially. I mean, I like the world where they can only eat at like the Olive Garden and the Cheesecake Factory. Right. And then the rest of us get the good restaurants. Yeah. I mean the Olive Garden and the Cheesecake Factory. Right. And then the rest of us get the good restaurants. Yeah. I mean, Olive Garden though.

Salad and breadsticks. Stay out of the Olive Garden, Maga. Cheesecake Factory. That's my place. I wonder if they, I mean, look, everybody loves Cheesecake Factory. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know how popping this app is, especially when you consider the history of how terribly these apps end up being. Every conservative app we've talked about has had either crazy malware shit going on or was just a straight up scam or fraud.

Well, you don't actually have to get people to use it. You just have to tell them that buying the app will own the libs. And so you just get all the people that cut the Nike swooshes off of their socks, and you get them all to download a 99-cent app. Boom, there you go. I mean, at this point, conservatism basically is like its own grifting scheme. So yeah, this is just part and parcel with everything else. Right, right.

Yeah. I mean, I hope it all works out. And I mean, if it's anything like, what was it, the Trump dating one? Oh, yeah. It'll flame out in about three minutes. Yeah. That's been responsible for at least 500 common law marriages. So in the drive to be the victims of persecution, one conservative has taken it the furthest that you possibly can by threatening his own life.

Yeah. Jacob Wohl. Yeah. The man who gave us the beautiful Twitter meme of overhearing hipsters in a coffee shop talking whatever the weird liberal scuttlebutt was saying. Right. Like, just overheard some hipsters in the coffee shop talking whatever the weird literal liberal scuttlebutt was saying like just overheard some hipsters in the coffee shop say but it's like okay thank you for that construction of a joke tweet uh you know he was banned off fucking twitter basically because he's uh just the dumbest liar ever which is on brand with the gop really high level comedy or yeah exactly we don't know which one it is quite yet. We might

look back and be like, was this Andy Kaufman? We don't know. But anyway, he had like a really cool trip. He went on to Minnesota to try and be like, I'm going to the belly of the beast in Ilhan Omar's district. And he was like really trying to play up how unsafe it was. Like he was

wearing a bulletproof vest. Like, you know, I have to wear this for my own protection. Then he got to the point where he was like, it was. Like he was wearing a bulletproof vest. Like, you know, like I got, I got to, I have to wear this for my own protection. Then he got to the point where he was like, it was so scary for me there. I was getting death threats. And he's like, look at this DM I got from at Drake homes. Six one,

two is a self-described diversity coordinator. So, you know where he's, what side this guy's on. He's probably works at a hipster coffee shop. And the DMm was i hope you fucking know that if i bump into you in dinky town or anywhere else in my city i'm going to shoot you and shit on your fucking bodies uh oh wow and then he said get the fuck out of my city you piece of shit now now when he first saw this he was like i guess he was trying to say that he was going to go to the police with this.

Because like, oh, this is a clear, this is someone is putting my life in danger. Come to find out that this is an account that was run by Jacob Wool. Right. And I mean, he's just sending himself fake death threats. What were the ones that he did a while back where he did like women for howard schultz or something like this is not his like first uh fake twitter account rodeo no i mean i don't god i can't even keep track of all the scams he's had and i need like a list i mean he has yes this man is known for doing all the fake shit oh the last one was when he was trying to say he had like a woman who was going to accuse Robert Mueller. Of rape.

Yeah. Yeah. And then it like ended up being his mom's phone number and shit. Yeah. The website was registered to his mom's house. And then he called. Yeah. He hooked up with that other conservative guy who had like shot himself in some sort of back alley meeting where they were supposed to exchange

like opposition research or something. And then they partnered together on trying to frame Mueller. And then there was a press conference where his lawyer had his fly down the entire time. Oh, I think that's Jack Berkman, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That quote unquote press conference

was the most awful thing to watch. But it was also fitting where it's like the guy's talking so authoritatively, his fly's down the whole time. He said that Jacob Boll was like a Mozart or Beethoven. He's one of our great geniuses. Yes, yes. Yeah. Oh, and that reminds me of that surefire intelligence thing. Remember all the, when they talked about the people that worked for the company? One's just a picture of Christoph Waltz.

And they're like, yeah, it's one of our other guys that works for this company. This stock photo of a model. Right. Yeah. This makes me wonder whatever happened to James O'Keefe. Is there now going to be a spot for him again? Because I don't know what his latest grift is. I mean, when his Project Veritas thing started falling apart.

He seems too subtle for the Trump era. I know, that's what I'm wondering. Like, it seems like he's not dumb enough, maybe. Yeah, like you have to be like a professional wrestler slash used car salesman in today's political environment. But like wildly incompetent. Yeah.

Or else it doesn't match the sort of tone that the conservative party is going with. Because, yeah. But O'Keefe also got owned pretty bad, too, when he tried to get the Washington Post with like a fake accuser of. Yeah. Is that what. Is it Kavanaugh? Is that where he went?

What do you mean? That was the last time he made really big news. Right. Was because then the Washington Post smelled it from a mile away and started looking up this woman they were like supposedly was giving them a tip. And then they pulled up with it. It was a Roy Moore accuser. It was back in the Roy Moore era. That's right.

And then they had the camera. They're like, well, that's weird because we saw you respond to an ad about how you're going to work for conservative media. Now, you don't have anything to do with James O'Keefe, do you? And she was like, I got to go. So, yeah, I mean, look, learn how to cheat right. That's all. Well, speaking of learning to cheat right, the transitions have really just written themselves today. Thank you so much.

Paul Manafort now faces seven and a half years in prison. He was finally sentenced by Judge Amy Berman Jackson. And she didn't seem that charmed by him. She seemed like she was not into him yeah she didn't throw the book at him but she was just like but she let him know i think in case if he ever tried to appeal her statements are pretty clear to say like this is why i gave this sentence the person like was like you squandered your chance at leniency like they're using those words and like and you know contrary to what you may think, facts matter in my courtroom.

Right. And, you know, it was one of those things a lot of people were like, oh, give him 10 years, give him 10 years. It ended up being seven and a half total. Right. Fine. Definitely within the guidelines, unlike Judge Elliott, who was like, oh, I'm sorry, bro.

Let me give you, like, a couple years with time served. Yeah, he seems to be, like be really good about giving people late sentences. I mean, unless you're a black congressman. Yeah, when they're white. Yeah, you set the record for longest sentence ever. The question is, is he going to do it at a real prison, or is he going to get to go to some cushy federal minimum security thing where he gets to play softball every day?

It is. I mean, he's going to be cushy because the nature of his crimes puts him already in that kind of a prison. Wasn't he in solitary a big portion of the time that he was being held for? Because he was witness tampering. Right. Because he was on bail. And when he started fucking around, she's like, oh, no, you're not fucking around and coaching witnesses.

Go to solitary. Right. And she was also very, very clear up front and said, this trial has nothing to do with collusion. I'm looking at financial crimes. And these have been proven. This is not anything to do with collusion. So this sentence has nothing to do with collusion. And, of course, the first thing Manafort's lawyer comes out and says right after saying this is like, it was proven.

There's no collusion. And it's like, yo, okay, we already know. Right. The pardon is getting cooked up right now. Right. The White House. They have no reason to say that other than that they're kissing the president's ass. Yeah.

And I know that's what he wants to hear. Of course. Because he's the guy who can pardon them. And there's nothing anyone can do about that, right? Well. Oh, shit. Unless you're the state of New York. That's right.

So we all know the president can only pardon you for crimes you've been charged at the federal level. But at the state level, his hands are fucking tiny and useless and tied behind his back. Right.

And right after his sentencing in this federal case, the state of New York hits him with like a 16-count indictment for crimes in the state of New York. So, yeah, it's not a great day for him. So I'm not sure what he'll do now. I mean, like, does that make him want to change his tune?

Right. Because now they're like, now you're unpardonable, Paul. Right. It would make sense if everything he's done up to this point is just with the knowledge that he thinks he can just get out of this pretty easily with a pardon. Right. Yeah. With the knowledge that he thinks he can just get out of this pretty easily with a pardon, right? Yeah. Is there a running tally between how many people are going to prison from the Trump campaign versus how many friends of Nixon went to jail? I feel like at this point, Trump has to have eclipsed him, right?

He only had a couple. Yeah, the number of indictments and yeah not now convictions probably has to be i mean it's cohen manafort uh that what was the other guy papadopoulos there's that nader guy we still we say michael flynn yet nope michael flynn so many people about i mean ro Stone, imminently. He's already been indicted. I feel like Eric Prince is probably coming up soon for lying to Congress.

How is he still not in prison? Again, anyone who has not seen the Al Jazeera-Medi Hassan vs. Eric Prince showdown at the Oxford Union. In passing, we did. People need to check that out. They had him on an Al Jazeera talk show where he just – it was really refreshing to see somebody not let him squirm out of it.

Right. They weren't worried about how uncomfortable it was for audiences to watch. They weren't worried about losing audience or, I don't know, whatever the fuck keeps mainstream media, about losing audience or, I don't know, whatever the fuck keeps mainstream media, American journalists from just staying with an awkward moment and just calling somebody on their bullshit. But yeah, they were like, here, I have the transcript here. I'm holding it in my hand.

You said this, which now you're acknowledging is a lie. No, no. Look, smoke bomb. Right. Was his family the one that Betsy DeVos was born into or the one that she married into? No, that's his sister. Oh, it's his sister? And she married into the DeVos family.

Imagine being born rich and then the thing that your two kids say that they're going into. One is like, I'm going to take all this money and start a mercenary company. And the other one is like, I'm going to dedicate my life to defunding public school. It's like, wow, great kids you raised there. Like imagine having all the money in the world and those are the things that you've chosen. If you became like a sneaker head,

it would have been a win for you. But then he would have been like, yeah, I've weaponized this uh nike presto to be a stealth bomber right uh uh watergate let's see 40 government officials indicted or jailed in total that's a lot yeah i mean i think 35 people so far or yeah 35 for muller oh wow so he's creeping up but But 26 Russian nationals. But it's Rick Gates, Flynn, Papadopoulos, Alex Van Der Zwan, the lawyer from Scott and Arps, I think, right? Or one of the law firms who lied and then had to be like, oh, no, actually, I did lie.

Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So, yeah, the count's running up. And there's plenty of people, too. We're still on the hook. He's still got that weird team of Civil War reenactors like Ty Cobb and his shady doctor. He's got a whole team of people with weird mustaches.

Oh, and John Bolton. Yeah. A lot of weird mustaches in that group. He doesn't like the mustaches, though. Yeah. He's always said that he didn't like John Bolton's mustache. Initially, I think when they were talking about John Bolton even having any kind of affiliation with the administration, I think he's pointed out something about his mustache. Yeah, I think that's one of Trump's only good instincts is that he didn't like John Bolton's mustache.

Yeah. Like, yeah, that is a sociopath's mustache. That and also got to give it to him. He did finally ground those Boeing 737 MAX 8 planes. Yeah. After everyone else was like, hi, are you the only country on earth letting this happen? Wait, do you think Trump's zeitgang? You think he listens?

Oh, he's zeitgang. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. He's got it tatted. All right. Well, Vince, it's been a pleasure having you, man. Oh, yeah. Thanks for having me on.

I very much enjoyed it. Where can people find you? I write for Uproxx, and I have two podcasts. We have the Film Drunk Frotcast, F-R-O-T-cast. That's about comedy and movies. And then we just started a new one where we're re-watching The Sopranos, and that's called Pod Yourself a Gun. Uh-huh.

Yeah, that's our Sopranos podcast. Nice. Love The Sopranos. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? There is. I wrote a couple down. Actually, I had one or two. Okay, so the first one, this one comes from Henry Hoke, who I wasn't following, but someone retweeted it into my timeline.

Onwee Perkins, at Onwee Perkins. Why couldn't Huffman and Laughlin just do what my mother did to get me into college? She brought a ricotta pie with pineapples to Jeannie Cusimano's sister and told her to write that fucking letter of recommendation or get murdered. Which, you know, combining the Sopranos and the scam. Real life events. Yeah. The scam to get, you know, rich people into college.

Yeah. Great story. We're taking the day off from talking about that story, but it'll be back soon, guys. It's overwhelming. There's too many pages. There's so much be back soon, guys. It's overwhelming. There's too many pages. There's so much good shit. Of tea. It's amazing.

And I got one more. Yeah, yeah, please. So this one is from Pixelated Boat, who I am a follower of. It's also about the same subject. Weird. Bribing an administrator to enroll my hated human son, Clermas, in dog school. Clermas. Clermas. Clermas.

That's a great name. Someone name their dog Clermas please. Yes. Miles where can people find you? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. A tweet I like also having to do with the college admissions scam by Hannah Dickinson at HansDickey. It says, imagine being

so stupid you send your parents to jail. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. A couple about that scandal in particular. Andrew T. said, it's probably worth noting that statistically speaking, not a single white person deserves to go to college. And James Vander Beek tweeted. What? So ABC News tweeted, FBI special agents,

it basically tweeted the story about the arrests and that it was named Operation Varsity Blues. And James Van Der Beek tweeted, if only there was a succinct turn of phrase these kids could have used to inform their parents they were not desirous of their life path. I don't want your life. Anyways, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.

You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talk about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out. Miles, what's that going to be? This is a song by sax player Donnie McCaslin.

Oh, sorry. I forgot to say my personal Twitter account. Oh, yeah. At Vince Mancini. Oh, Vance. Sorry. No, no, no. Grinding the show to a halt once again.

No. Follow Vince, please. Please do. It's a good follow. Now, McCaslin. Donnie McCas to a halt. No. Follow Vince, please. Please do. Gets a good follow. Now, McCaslin. Donnie McCaslin. He got an album called Blow Out. But this is a track.

It's called The Opener featuring Sun Kill Moon. And it's just a weird, it's just a funky mashup. I really enjoy it. So, yeah, this is The Opener by Donnie McCaslin. All right. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast, and we'll talk to you then.

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