The Daily Zeitgeist - Young People Growing Horns, GTFO Biden 6.21.19

Episode Date: June 21, 2019

In episode 418, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Bechdel Cast co-host Caitlin Durante to discuss young people growing horns, Iran shooting down a US drone, Joe Biden losing his mind, more on ...problematic behavior by Tony Robbins, the Jamba Juice Sicko Mode remix, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Horns are growing on young people’s skulls. Phone use is to blame, research suggests.2. Trump says Iran 'made very big mistake' after downing of US drone3. Biden Is Now Demanding That Cory Booker Apologize for Saying That Segregation Was Bad4. Tony Robbins Punishes Followers By Making Them Drink Unidentified Brown Liquid “Designed To Have A Lasting Effect”5. Tony Robbins Has Been Accused Of Groping More Women And Mistreating Vulnerable Followers6. WATCH: Sicko Mode but it's Jamba Juice7. WATCH: Big Thief - UFOF (Official Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever
Starting point is 00:01:28 you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 87, Episode 5 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially, off the top, fuck coke industries and fuck Fox News. It's Friday, June 21st, 2019.
Starting point is 00:02:21 My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jackula, dead and loving it, a.k.a. Jackula, dead and loving it. A.k.a. Jackula, wed and hugging it. Shout out to my wife who just had a birthday and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host,
Starting point is 00:02:37 Mr. Miles Gray. I'm your private racist rejected from Harvard. Got me feeling so blue. I'm your private racist, using the N-word. Please hit me with a shoe. Kyle Kashuv, that guy who we're talking about, who's only racist in private. I can't believe he sent you that AKA.
Starting point is 00:03:01 No, that's from Velveta Underhound and Ruthie Fudge. At Velveta Under H1. And also, I see you, Brackish Joker. You also sent me a Tina Turner private dancer, private racist one. And I think a few other people did. But I see you. I just happened to do this one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Because we talked about him being a private racist. Yes, exactly. One of the last rights that we have as Americans is to be private racist. And racist. Yes. Or wait, racist and private. Yes, racist and private. Look, what two racists do at home in the privacy of their own home, none of my business.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Exactly. Until they go to work and then act that out subtly, passively. In front of my kids. Yeah. Right. Don't you fucking. Yeah, until that you fuck. Ohively. In front of my kids. Yeah. Don't you fucking. Yeah, until that you fuck. Oh, you recruit one of my kids?
Starting point is 00:03:48 Right. To be racist? Yeah. Oh, man. I mean, there's a racist agenda. Right. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:03:56 It's called the United States. Don't get me started. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Caitlin Durante. Hello, aka.k.a. What do you got? Lauren D. Titanic. Is that a fucking legit anime?
Starting point is 00:04:12 That's real. Lauren D. Titanic? That's one of mine. Yeah. I mean, I think you have to change your name. I think so. The fact that you have, God, your fucking name is so good for these. I know.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I have only nonsense. Right. And just like half words. Kaitlyn Durante's anagram game is so strong. I've got another one. If you want it. Lancer UTI is obviously the classic. But Titanic is, I mean, for-
Starting point is 00:04:36 Lauren D. I mean. For first time listeners, like you are, we were talking about our personalities and you said that your personality is defined by your love of Titanic and what is it Paddington? Paddington so I mean there you go
Starting point is 00:04:53 those are my two things this is courtesy of at Jace of Spades Lauren D. Titanic this one is adrenalinerenaline Cut It. What the fuck? Adrenaline Cut It. You get the most complex.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I guess my first two names only add up to nine letters. Yeah, that's trickier. So you don't get a lot of real estate with that. Give me a couple hours. I'll come up with some good ones with your name, Miles. I became so insecure after Latin Dancer UTI because I was like, that's the greatest thing I've ever heard, that I use an anagram machine to see what the options were.
Starting point is 00:05:32 And I was so just fucking bummed out because there wasn't shit even coming close. Ray G. Limes. I don't know. That's just off the dome, bro. Wow. I just came up with that. Thank you so much. Caitlin, it off the dome, bro. Wow. Impressive. Thank you so much. Caitlin, it's great to have you.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Thanks for having me. Add another thing to your personality. You're good with anagrams. Oh, yeah. I've got those three things. Paddington, Titanic, and anagrams. And the radioactive. Oh, well, you're spoiling one of my things.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Sorry, sorry. All right, we're going to get to know you a little bit better. Not that there's that much more to get to know. I mean, you only have three things and we've already covered them. But we're going to try and dig even deeper than that in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today, such as that young people are growing horns on the back of their heads from phone use, from looking down.
Starting point is 00:06:28 The muscles have shifted from our neck when we were looking up and making eye contact with one another. That was a bad old guy voice. No, you gotta talk like this. We used to make eye contact. I know, I can't see. Now we're all looking down at our dang phones. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Where was that character from? I don't know. From the hollers? Yeah, I think maybe. Anyways, because we're looking down, we have muscles that are forming on the back of our skulls that are then creating bone growths and horns. Do I have one of those?
Starting point is 00:07:03 Phone bones. Yeah. Yeah, so we will all examine the backs of our skulls live on air then creating bone growths and horns. Do I have one of those? Phone bones. Yeah. Yeah. So we will all examine the backs of our skulls live on air and figure out if we have phone bones. We're going to talk about America possibly going to war. Trying. Trying.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Trying. Doing their best. Doing their darndest. Folks from the Trump administration who aren't named Donald Trump seem to really want to go to war. Folks from the Trump administration who aren't named Donald Trump seem to really want to go to war. And the president, for the first time, is not taking the thing that I would want him to do and doing the diametric opposite. It seems like he doesn't want that smoke. And we're good with that.
Starting point is 00:07:38 We're here for it. We're going to just tell Joe Biden, fuck off, man. Just fucking leave. Oh, dude. Also, fuck off, man. Just fucking go, dude. Also, Nancy. ICE has stopped updating their list of people who died in ICE custody. That's troubling. We're going to talk about Elaine Chao being the new Scott Pruitt.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I'm going to give you a little more texture on Tony Robbins' hell, the hell that people pay him to put them through. And we will have, at the end, a nice, healthy round of what we're fucking with. What you're fucking with. But first, Caitlin, we'd like to ask our guest, what's something from your search history? Well, you know how we were just talking about Titanic? I do know that. just talking about Titanic.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I do know that. One of my most recent searches on Google was Rose from Titanic enamel pin. I was looking to make a purchase for like a blazer pin, like one of those little pins. Yeah, like ones you just like, yeah, a piece
Starting point is 00:08:40 of flare, if you will. I know of one that exists, so I was searching for it so i could buy it is it a like a replica of a prop from the film or of rose from titanic as a pin it's of rose oh shit yeah so like you know the scene you know the scene oh i do draw me like one of your french girls i saw it twice not that one but the one where she's like exiting the car before she gets onto the titanic yeah and there's like the beautiful reveal where she like lifts her head the ship of dreams she's like it doesn't look any longer than
Starting point is 00:09:11 the martania yeah uh that her in that outfit is there's like an enamel kind of it so is it like is it very photorealistic or it's kind of a caricature i don't know why i'm so invested in this i'm like i have to know what this pin looks like. It's pretty photorealistic. Do you want me to Google? No, no, it's better that it's in my mind's eye. And I'll take that with me. So yeah, I'm searching for that. Have they, you know what would be a cool pin
Starting point is 00:09:34 is like a pin with like a spinny thing on it for the, that is the guy hitting the propeller. Oh my God. Oh, wow. That's my favorite moment. Oh, like when it goes ass up when it's sinking? Yeah. That is maybe the most memorable moment from that entire movie.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I know. And it's kind of a shame because it's otherwise a pretty great movie. Yeah. But- Wait, why is that a shame? That that's very memorable? Yeah, just because it's like a moment out of one of James Cameron's action movies. It's like so violent.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Well, I think that was him sort of underlining that, you know, people fucking fell off. Yeah, I mean. When shit happens. And before that, I feel like all we were used to was seeing like those stupid ass dummies, like stunt dummies hit shit. Like when they would have to do like falls from great heights. Yeah. But with computer graphics, you can have that dude just fucking.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Spinning away. Spinning down like a whirly gig. Yeah. I mean, didn't he get the stars in the sky right? Or somebody- He got them wrong. He got them wrong. Neil deGrasse Tyson was like, in 1912, the stars wouldn't have been aligned like that. I'm rather taking the appropriate action of telling Neil deGrasse Tyson to go fuck himself.
Starting point is 00:10:45 He actually corrected the stars for the director special edition. Wait, how long after did Neil deGrasse Tyson was like, the stars are fucked? It was- Like years later? Yeah, I think so. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:59 James is slipping. That's right. What is something you think is underrated? Are you familiar with the game Canasta? Canasta. It is a card game. I've heard this.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Played mostly by people 60 to 70 and older. I've heard tell of this Canasta. But I learned it when I was a child. And I've been teaching my friends it
Starting point is 00:11:24 over the years. And it's a really fun child, and I've been teaching my friends it over the years, and it's a really fun game, and I think that more people should play it. Okay, describe it to me. Is that the one where each player starts with 15 cards in hand, and both players take turns in drawing one card from the stock and discarding one card on the discard pile? 15 or 13, depending on how many players. Say that again and look me in my eye.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Don't look at your screen. He wills one eye and just goes down. Oh, my God. The eye control. It actually looks like Solitaire. It looks like two people playing Solitaire a little bit. That's wrong. So do you know it?
Starting point is 00:12:01 Uh-oh. Spoiled your card. It's kind of much more complicated. So do you know it? Uh-oh. Spoiled your card. It's kind of much more complicated. People liken it to bridge because it's similarly very complicated.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But it's a more complicated version of Rummy, sort of. Gin Rummy? Is that a different game? Gin Rummy, I think, is a different game than regular Rummy. There's a few different variations of Rummy. I used to play with my grandmother and grandfather's called Kings in the Corner. Oh, really? Yeah, where you put the kings in the corner.
Starting point is 00:12:29 It was like a sequence game. Anyway, I don't know how many people, maybe it was like an old black person card game. My dad and I play knock gin. Do you ever play gin? What's knock gin? Gin is like where you, it's like gin,
Starting point is 00:12:40 but instead of putting the pears out, you keep them in your hand. I've never played gin. I don't drink gin. You're a man of principle. Yeah, I know. It just tastes like vase water. You know what I mean? It's overly floral to me. It's like a Christmas tree.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Although I have, one time a master bartender made me an actually good gin martini. I was like, okay, I can fuck with that. But I used to just drink a lot of Tangeray. Or in high school, that was like the thing kids always brought because like no parent really drank Tangeray. Right, so you could just take it.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Yeah, they didn't know. I think that's why I had like one of my early drinking experiences was a really bad experience with gin, and I never liked it after that. Mixing Tangeray and Tab. I think I just drank it straight, and it was warm. That happened to me. The first time I ever drank alcohol when I was in college, I had two shots of gin, which
Starting point is 00:13:30 is a weird thing. You don't really shoot gin. But I don't, you know, I'll still fuck with it. Was that the deal? Like, was the gin? Because you would watch your parents. You knew the liquor they would drink. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:43 So you knew, like, okay, that bottle has been fucking there since I was three years old. Right. And you're like, and that's the one. I've been looking my whole life. I wonder if that's what it is. We had old granddad in our liquor cabinet, I remember. Oh. I drank a bunch of Canasta when I was-
Starting point is 00:13:56 Never got touched. Just didn't put him in a cemetery? I'm kidding. That's not a drink. Canasta. That could be a drink though, I feel like. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:04 What is something you think is overrated? Harmony Corrine. Woo! Oh, yeah. I went there. Uh-oh. I just watched Beach Bum for the first time a few days ago, and God, did I hate it. And I hate Spring Breakers.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I just don't think he's- Trash Humpers? I don't think I've seen that one. Mm-hmm. Kids is okay. Trash Humpers seems like a description of his career. That he has like little culture that I hump. Yeah, gummo.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Fuck. Yeah, Beach Bums. I haven't seen Beach Bums. You had a tweet that spoiled something somewhat surprising. I don't know if we want to spoil it for our listeners, but... Are you going to spoil Trash Humpers or Beach Bums? Beach Bums. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:47 What I'll say about that Beach Bum is that there's, I think, like a 10-minute sequence that Zac Efron is in, and I love Zac Efron. That's why I watched the movie because I was like, Zac Efron's the star of this movie. It turns out he's not. He's in it for 10 minutes. It is a great 10 minutes, but the rest of it is unwatchable in my humble uh master's degree having in screenwriting opinion huh so you should
Starting point is 00:15:15 make that part of your personality instead of that i have a master's screenwriting yeah i could do that i'm hearing this yeah i just don't want to be too multidimensional. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. You don't want to intimidate men. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, I started watching Gummo because it was in Belly. Wait, the movie Gummo is in Belly? Yeah, there's a scene where they get to DMX's house, and he has Gummo on in the background for whatever reason.
Starting point is 00:15:39 And he's like, this shitty ass rabbit stinks. And I was like, what the fuck is, like, what? What? Like, what is this movie they're watching? So Harmony Koran first burst onto the scene as a child when he wrote Kids. Yes. Actually, what am I saying? I saw Kids before Belly. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Anyway. Anyways. Kids is, you know, an overrated morality tale where it's like, if you have sex with someone with AIDS, you've got AIDS. Yeah, don't worry. It's me, Casper. You deserve it. It's me, Casper. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Anyways, he did find Rosario Dawson, or at least the director of that. Rosario Dawson's career wouldn't be with us if were it not for- Larry Clark, who's another interesting character, too. What? No, Larry Clark's a great guy. There's nothing wrong with Larry Clark. Totally cool. Totally cool.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Just shooting up heroin with people to get the photo and exploit them. But I don't know. I mean, his photography is phenomenal. I was actually having a conversation with my dad about Larry Clark this weekend. Really? What do we think of Larry Clark? That's what you and your dad talk about? That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Talk about that and- Talk about. Yeah, on March 7th, 2001. Track meet where he showed up and I knew something was wrong. Anyway. Did you talk about what you were doing this weekend with your dad in New York? No. You should talk about that.
Starting point is 00:16:57 That's pretty fucking awesome. Yeah. Todd Gray. Todd Gray. Yeah. I basically hung out with him. Do we need to do one more? Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:17:10 No, my dad, he's showing at the Whitney Biennial in New York. Very significant moment in his career for art. If you like art and you're in the New York area, check out the Whitney Biennial. He's on the sixth floor. And yeah, I was there too. I hadn't seen the show, so I went out there to see the show. That's why I wasn't on biennial. He's on the sixth floor. And yeah, I was there too. You know, I hadn't seen the show. So I went out there to see the show. That's why I wasn't on Tuesday's episode.
Starting point is 00:17:30 And it was very, very nice. Ironically, my mom was there too. And we all had dinner. And it was like one of the first times me and my mom, my dad had dinner for like in a minute. How'd it go? Like that. It was fine. It was great.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Everything's cool. Yeah. I mean, like it was just, it was surreal. It was just kind of, it was weird that we were all in the same place, but then was fine. It was great. Everything's cool. It was surreal. It was weird that we were all in the same place but then it happened to be New York. The stars aligned as Neil deGrasse Tyson would say. Is it true that it's a big city of dreams?
Starting point is 00:17:57 Well, I do know that everything in New York ain't always what it seems. That's right. Is it a concrete jungle though where dreams are made of? I believe so. The Dog Pound, New York. Also, you said the stars align, but they didn't align correctly in Titanic.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Unfortunately. Back to you. Back to you, Miles. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Well, did you know that toy story is not about a story that gets bitten by a radioactive toy
Starting point is 00:18:32 the reveal of the fourth part of her personality the fourth and final final form I've been watching The Toy Stories with my son Because he's going to see Toy Story 4 While I'm out of town this weekend So I wanted to Get him caught up And I'm also a little bit mad that I'm missing
Starting point is 00:18:58 His first movie going experience Oh it's his first one in the theater? It's his first in theater experience Where are you going? Well, where is he going? El Capitan, I think. Oh. Yeah. Thank you for respecting the name.
Starting point is 00:19:10 El Capitan? Yes. But yeah, he's going to see Toy Story 4. So we've been watching the franchise. We're through the first two. I realize I either, I usually remember where I was whenever I saw a movie. Like, I just, that's, like, the weird thing that my brain, like, remembers. But I don't think I saw Toy Story 2 or I saw it, I realized yesterday that I saw it during, like, a time when I was, like, drinking too much.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Right, right. Because I just couldn't remember it at all. That's funny because, like, you would have been an adult and you're like I just put fucking soy sauce out came out in 1999 which was a bad year for me so uh yeah you know a lot was going on man we were pretty panicked about y2k also yeah yeah I had a lot of stress I'm not gonna blame it all on y2k but it certainly didn't help caitlin are you a fan are you excited for toy story 4 i am yeah i'm seeing it i mean as listeners as you're listening to this i'm seeing it right now wow no matter when you listen to this i am seeing toy story
Starting point is 00:20:16 oh no what a horrible curse it just plays over and over in my mind anytime anyone listens to this for years, you just automatically suddenly have to start watching Toy Story 4. Whenever you see me. I hear it's like David Lynchian. Like this one's like weird. Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Well, because it like asks a strange question. Like there are all these weird like philosophical questions that are created by the first movie. Like, what happens to toys after they go to a landfill? And then they're just frozen there, sentient, looking at a rotting banana peel for the rest of their lives. Like, that is a nightmarish hell. And the movie, the franchise has been like, yeah, let's go after that. Let's make that the theme of Toy Story 3.
Starting point is 00:21:07 It's like, what the fuck? But this one, I guess, is around the theme of what makes a thing a toy enough to become sentient. So they put googly eyes on a fork. Yeah. And then they're like, ah, it's sentient. But it's like a freak. It's just like so. Yeah, he doesn't want to live.
Starting point is 00:21:26 He's like, I don't want this life. Kill me. Oh, God, kill me now. So they've developed a God complex. Yeah, but it's so strange that that is a dark implication of the universe that only adults. I'm curious to know what your son's first take will be after seeing that. What the question will be, because I'm sure that'll be interesting for a child to see and try and process. Well, we're going to watch Toy Story 3 tonight as you're listening to this, guys.
Starting point is 00:21:54 We're going to be watching Toy Story 3, and that one is very dark. It's a dark film. So, yeah, I'm curious what he's going to think. But loves the movies to this point. They're great. Yeah. You know, Toy Story 2 very clearly takes place in a pre-9-11 world. So I had to kind of explain that to him.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I was like, you know, what you're not seeing here. We haven't lost our innocence. He's like, actually, honey, take that DVD out, put in loose change. Exactly. Boy's got to learn before he watches Toy story it's weird man all those saudis got out right away huh yeah yeah what you think about building seven boy but i mean the the uh climax of the movie takes place in an airport like as luggage is going through all these trains and it's just like you know so innocent yeah yeah So easy for them to sneak around in an airport backpack.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Exactly. Anyways. Man, remember when airports are easy to sneak around in? Those were the days. Wow. Wow. We've been spending too much time around each other. Miles, I think it's time for you to leave for a week.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Okay, I will. All right. Well, after this episode. Okay. All right, guys, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.
Starting point is 00:23:26 My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Hey, I'm Gianna Prudente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Basketball is just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her.
Starting point is 00:25:39 What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and
Starting point is 00:26:11 culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here. I'm just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
Starting point is 00:26:36 She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get
Starting point is 00:26:52 better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And young people are growing horns.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Discuss. Moving on. Growing fucking skull horns. Skull horns. Let's all examine. Yeah, I was feeling. Well, this all happened because earlier today, Super Purdue, Purdue Pharma, Anna Hosni sends a text. examine yeah i was feeling well this all happened because earlier today super purdue purdue pharma anna hosnia sends a text this with a news thing with an x-ray that says horns are growing on
Starting point is 00:27:34 young people's skulls phone use is to blame research suggests right and this x-ray is like of someone the base of someone's skull with a straight up little fucking horn. A little spike coming out the back. I don't think I have one. So Super Producer Anna Hosnier does have one. She felt a little protrusion. I have one too, but I've had this my entire life.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Oh, right. So I mean, I was in utero looking at my phone. Looking at your phone, exactly. so that must be why i took that phone uh my mom swallowed it was that how it works huh weird okay whatever we don't have to explore that anymore anyway uh so as we've discussed though uh so i don't have one but uh because i want to be young i'm gonna going to get an implant of one to try and...
Starting point is 00:28:26 To match your son? Yeah, to make me seem cool and hip. But yeah. Could you imagine? That's what the hey fellow kids type wave is next. You're like, hey, you know, I got a skull horn too, man. I feel that. Your old man knows a little something about yeet.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Ah, shit. Yeah, but that's pretty crazy. I didn't realize. It's a bone spur or something. It's not that we're evolving it into a skull horn. Yeah, it's basically that we're developing muscles where we didn't used to have muscles because we spent so much time with our heads bowed in prayer. I'm lifting my head.
Starting point is 00:29:04 With our heads bowed over our phones, that we're developing muscles at the back of our skull, and these muscles are getting little bony protrusions in them. Oh, because it's like a callus building from us looking down. That's what they said. It's the equivalent of a callus on a repeatedly used part of your skin. Do you think anyone's going to solve this? Because I know somebody whose younger sibling had a texting neck.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Her neck was fucked up from looking down so much at her phone. What do you mean fucked up? She had all kinds of neck pain and stuff and like like they were they were concerned like of like nerve damage that might have been happening from like her just basically almost being like chin to chest constantly um because i know that was like a thing that i remember i laughed at when they were talking about in the early outs are like do you have texting neck i'm like no right uh And then cut to this younger person who grew up basically texting or on iPad, whatever, Game Boys, what have you, Game Gears, Atari Lynx, whatever it was. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I'm just naming all the handheld things I can remember. The Sega playable memory cards. Chinese finger traps. Yeah. Sega playable memory cards. Chinese finger traps. Yeah. But yeah, it was like to know that now,
Starting point is 00:30:28 like we've gone from texting neck to now we're building bone spurs at the bases of our skulls is I guess interesting showing that our bodies are starting to change based on technology. Probably in ways that God didn't intend. I think we can all agree on that. Oh, sure. I like to think that my head has an erection. It's a boner.
Starting point is 00:30:49 For lack of a better word. Right, right, right. A sculler. A phone boner. A phoner. Yeah, well, guys, just please look up. Yeah, look up. Do you ever feel pain
Starting point is 00:30:59 from looking down at your phone a lot? No. I don't think so. Just the pain of when my son is like, Daddy, play with me. Look at me. You missed my first steps. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:31:08 you just missed this sick crossover I saw on Breaking Ankle's daily Instagram account. That's right. All right, guys, let's talk about war. The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps claimed responsibility for a U.S. surveillance drone that was shot down. And they claim it entered Iranian airspace.
Starting point is 00:31:28 The U.S. says it was still in international airspace. And the U.S. general who commented on this said that it was 38 kilometers away from Iranian airspace, which seems like the sort of thing that we should be able to like independently verify 38 kilometers is a lot of kilometers they say they have proof right but again regardless of what either side is saying like these are just every everybody's fucking with each other in little ways like so now the u.s will fly their drones close saying we got our eye on you or whatever but also i'm sure close enough to try and get it shot down and then the u.s can point it's like you see what happens i mean like they're just shooting stuff
Starting point is 00:32:09 down i don't know guys i don't know if the rest of the world is seeing this meanwhile like anyone who would even think to align with the u.s like i don't know except israel except israel and saudi arabia right they're they're ready but i think you again, without Europe, it could be very difficult. I mean, again, it's just definitely another escalation to something that is so unnecessarily tense. Right. And I think when you hear stuff like Lindsey Graham being like, well, if they start building their nuclear program up, all bets are everything's off the table or on the table i don't know whatever the turn of phrase he used what was interesting though is like right after trump first just tweeted like iran made a very bad mistake right and then met with justin
Starting point is 00:32:56 trudeau who i'm guessing was like don't you fucking even try something dude please no one wants this uh and then they were asking when like what what his thoughts were. Trump said, I find it hard. I find it hard to believe it was intentional. If you want to know the truth. Yeah, I think that it could have been somebody who was loose and stupid that did it. So his response to like, what do you think of this is almost that he doesn't want to further the narrative that this was an intentional act of aggression.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Right. Because it sounds like, from what we've heard him say, he doesn't want armed conflict, but then you have these maniacos by the name of Bolton and Pompeo who are like, yeah, like Bolton just wants to see Iran just kneecapped, and then Pompeo's like, I think Jesus will come back. Right. If there's war over there. So he does believe in a religion, right. That wants there to be like,
Starting point is 00:33:51 thinks that if there's a war in the middle East that will bring upon us revelations. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.
Starting point is 00:33:58 It's in the Bible right there. I just wanted to make sure, uh, just want to make sure he knew that that's what's happening. Do you knew? Yeah. You, I mean, wanted to make sure uh just want to make sure he knew that that's what's happening do you knew yeah you i mean he even said like that god may have sent trump to save israel from iran like he said that out loud and yeah he's he fucks with the rapture right so there's that
Starting point is 00:34:18 but you know i think what we'll see is hopefully more of a diplomatic pursuit because, I mean, based on Trump's response, he does not want smoke of any nature, which is very odd. But it seems like this is what the pattern, if we sort of compare it to other things, like when it came to North Korea, he was like, oh, you better watch out. Right. Because I've got a button too. Right. And it's a bigger button. And then all that for like a fake you better watch out. Right. Because I've got a button too. Right. And it's a bigger button. And then all that for like a fake talk that went nowhere. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:49 So if maybe with this, we'll just end up with the same Iran deal that he just blew up. Right. And they'll be like, yeah, see, I got him back to the table. But it'll be called like the Trump deal or something. Yeah. Iran deal too. Erectile boogaloo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:04 It is a weird just feeling to not be diametrically opposed to what he's doing. Like he has this, it usually seems to me like I usually have the feeling that he has thought through what I want and done the opposite. I don't think that's probably causally how he's coming up with his policy, but that generally seems to be how we end up. And this time, just by accident, I guess, he doesn't want armed conflict. Right. It's a weird feeling.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Yeah, he... I mean, he... Totally fuck it up. He also was careful to point out that like he wasn't being pushed by um people in the administration towards a more aggressive approach or he denied that like it that he was constantly being pestered by hawks but i see who's in that room right i don't i don't believe that i mean he's he did campaign like he just didn't like war so i think that's the
Starting point is 00:36:05 one consistent thing but at the end of the day you don't know what all these other people are going to do plus you have an environment where he's increasingly probably becoming more erratic based on the things that are going on with like the muller report and impeachment looming and his re-election that could be bad like i don't know what other... He might pull some shit. I don't know where it goes. I was surprised to hear him say I don't think it was intentional. They're like, it flew into our airspace
Starting point is 00:36:33 and we shot it the fuck down. But this is also part of, too, in general, Iran has a different view of what their airspace is in that region or what area they do control in their region. Maybe they have competing definitions of what their airspace is in that region or what area they do control in the region. So maybe they have competing definitions of what international airspace was and that's what happened.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Right. But either way, that was, I think, $130 million drone. Just think of, that's another thing that I was like, $130 million, $130 million war toy. Yeah. Well, I'm not going to say he definitely has my vote but uh you know uh you're not gonna write him off quite yet sure that's right uh speaking of writing people off uh joe biden guys what what the fuck yes i think we should leave it there okay what the fuck dude where are you why why are you still here yeah he I mean, look, people still have the feel good times of Obama in their minds when they hear his name.
Starting point is 00:37:32 So, of course. Oh, I love it. That's that guy who used to just do weird stuff. And he's had some great one liners recently. I think earlier this week he was telling donors in New York. He's like that nothing would change if I'm in the White House. Business as usual for predatory capitalists. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:49 It was basically the message. Right. He wanted to let people know, it's like, hi, the existing corporate power structure and banking structure, whatever, like, I'm not here to, you know, Bernie or Warren it up. Right. Yeah, yeah. We're going to keep on sucking this thing dry. Yeah. Because there's no real problems other than that Trump is rude and mean.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Yeah, exactly. That's it. Those are the only problems. And we just want a nice guy. And, you know, he's been all over the place when it comes to, like, the Hyde Amendment. He's just, his record on, like, bills dealing with people of color in this country, his treatment of Anita Hill, most people know that. Not the median voter quite yet. People who are very engaged are starting to see all that.
Starting point is 00:38:30 So now, I mean, he got real just, what's the word, when you're nostalgic for his time working with some very nasty segregationist senators. He was talking again back, he went went back way back in the way back machine and he was like i was in a caucus with james eastland and then he goes on to say briefly channeling the late mississippi senator's southern draw mr biden said of mr eastland he never called me boy he always called me son i thought you were gonna do the southern draw i didn't want to i don't even care enough at this point. It's not very creatively stimulating for me. Then he brought up another senator, Herman Talmadge. He said, one of the meanest guys I ever knew.
Starting point is 00:39:12 You go down the list of all these guys. Well, guess what? At least there was some civility. We got things done. We didn't agree on much of anything. We got things done. We got it finished. But today you look at the other side and you're the enemy, not the opposition, the enemy. We don't talk to each other anymore. Again, a bygone era, and also you were dealing with some of the nastiest fucking racists, like, ever. But he was civil. There was civility. Yeah, I miss him.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Civility is for dominant cultures to deal with. Civility means nothing to me. Personally, when I see that i'm like that's how y'all talk to each other because the language on this end of the spectrum is oppression so fuck your civility um and just an aside right when people like got very you know cory booker was like yo you need to apologize for like this dumb shit like eastland was a very very terrible terrible racist like he was accused like world war ii black soldiers who come came back of like that they were there was like a widespread rape of women in stuttgart at the end of the war and it wasn't like it was baseless these attacks
Starting point is 00:40:19 on like black gis who had just served in the war and then even and, and then again, hated anything to do with civil rights. So when people look at his track where they're like, why are you like reminiscing about this fucking guy? Like he was a fucking fire, trash fire. And even there's like an anecdote about how he basically was saying, like was trying to negotiate with JFK about getting one of his buddies, one of Eastland's buddies on a federal judicial bench in exchange for voting for thurgood marshall where he would block the nomination of thurgood
Starting point is 00:40:53 marshall and he's basically anecdotally by one account this is saying with rfk eastland told rfk he said tell your brother if he gives me cox which is his buddy i will give him his n-word jesus christ so that's why people are like when you hear joe biden be like yeah and like He said, tell your brother if he gives me Cox, which is his buddy, I will give him his N-word. Jesus Christ. So that's why people are like, when you hear Joe Biden be like, yeah, and like, hey, I didn't agree with him. It's like, dude, don't even bring this up. Like, you're better off. No one even exists in this world anymore. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Where we're like, man, I wish people would just, you know, sidle up next to violent racists. Right. To get maybe one thing done. But again, when you get people to work together there's always an exchange so what what did joe biden seed for him to get those senators on board for the things he was saying they worked on like what other did joe biden like okay well look we can do the crime bill or whatever the you know what i mean right so yeah cory booker basically called him out and then joe biden like, like the old man that he is who will never apologize, he basically said, apologize for what?
Starting point is 00:41:48 Cory should apologize. He knows better. There's not a racist bone in my body. I've been involved in civil rights my whole career. Period. Period. Period. He said period three fucking times.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I love the period three times also when you have to say there's not a racist bone in your body it typically means your skeleton is just racist as a clan hook you know what i mean like i don't know anybody who's said that and you're like that's true right there isn't a racist bone in their body yeah like people who deploy that defense it's oh man i can i i think there was some website that was doing a brief history of the not a racist bone in my body defense and all these people were like these are all nasty fucking racist yeah because i feel like it i wonder if it appeals to this idea that like deep down i'm not racist so like even the way they're thinking about it like as they formulate
Starting point is 00:42:44 this construction they're like well you know at my core formulate this construction, they're like, well, you know, at my core, I'm not racist. I just like say and do racist things. I'm a private racist. Part of the time. Same as private racism, racist bone in my body. Deep down, my bones are good. All the muscle of my heart, my brain are racist. But my bones are not.
Starting point is 00:43:01 My bones have lumps in them from looking down at my phone too much from my skull but they're not racist they're not racist i don't know well we should do a poll on everyone's skull bone spurs and see where they stand on the election but yeah you know this is just more like again like joe biden couldn't just accept what the criticism was of what he was saying or of these people and just did the things like, I'm sorry you got offended. Yeah. I'm sorry you feel that way.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Jesus. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Like, I do wonder if people were trying to be like, but what about, and he was just like, period, period. Just like shouting over them.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Yeah. And then again, you know, I have people coming out from like center left being like why are we still like why are we trying to drag this guy down why are we taking each other down yeah we gotta worry about trump because a guy who votes for these crime bills and treats anita hill like that i don't know what how much focus they're gonna put on writing the wrongs of you know systemic racism in this country. Maybe that's why. And I think Nancy Pelosi was like, oh, Joe's a good guy. It's like y'all are from the same planet. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Planet too rich and too old to understand where we're at right now. Right. Yeah. So Joe, come on, man. Just hang out. Hang out somewhere else, please. Don't need you. His numbers are wavering, as we talked about earlier.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Yeah. Well, the interesting thing, too, is when you look at the top five candidates, he has, I mean, his support with black voters is blowing out every other candidate. You know what I mean? I think, again, I feel like if black people hear exactly what this person voted for, what his records were on busing and things like that, you're going to be like, this guy is more of the fucking same shit. Is it just because he was with Obama? I think it's just because when you look at the other people, so the top five, Biden, Sanders, Warren, Buttigieg, and harris a lot of people uh will just say oh carl harris is a cop uh budaj they don't know much about warren is doing the best after biden out of all those people but again i think it is just he's instantly familiar to most people because he was obama's vice yeah right it's the same reason he's having success with a lot of people is yeah but it also would uh suggest that he has the most to lose.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Oh, 100%. Once information starts coming out. Yeah. And I'm sure if you have people like Warren and Sanders with more humane policies on trying to create equality in this country and throw it to Mr. Pharma Man, what he's going to be like, oh, I think we're doing great.
Starting point is 00:45:44 I don't know what kind of specific policies he'll have that might sway a voter to be like, oh, wait, it seems like he, I don't like exactly what his solutions are to problems I'm experiencing as a voter. Yeah. But that's what the debate stage is for. So we'll see what happens because Cory Booker, I believe, is on that stage with Joe Biden. Yeah. So that'll be another moment for, I mean, a lot of people were saying like, look, Cory Booker is saying this because it's going to get him on all the news shows because he's in desperate need of more visibility right now.
Starting point is 00:46:17 But I'm curious to see what happens on that debate stage because we talk about how people who are like in the single digits, like in terms of polling, they'll typically be more on the offensive or trying to make a scene on stage to try and get some, you know, airtime. Yeah. I mean, this is why it's a completely insane idea to like go easy on the candidates during the primary. It's like the, this is, this is the process. This is what the primary process is. It's to figure out things about the candidates, find out who you actually support and whose beliefs are actually valid for what you care about. Yeah. So, all right. We're going to take another quick break.
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Starting point is 00:51:29 around him to like get into relationships with him and very you know problematic shit but one of the weirder aspects of the picture that all these investigations are painting is that is how badly he treats the people who pay to come to his seminars like i i guess his whole thing is don't let yourself like be a victim like fight back against basically like don't get down but the way he frames it is like you're letting your abusive husband victimize you and uh it's just very i don't know strange that's where the advice ends yeah basically so stop that yeah all right give me ten thousand dollars yeah and one of the things that he does to i for some reason is he like doesn't give people access to bathrooms and water and food during these things.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Keeps them on strict bathroom breaks. I mean, this is very cult-y shit where you are putting rules in place that are making people uncomfortable and taking away their agency. Yeah, exactly. People would have
Starting point is 00:52:42 seizures and faint and have to be taken to the hospital. Anyways, there's- Oh, because of their lack of- Lack of water. Because you're on schedule and people with health issues are like, I'm sorry, I don't care what your doctor said. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:53 You're not drinking water for 30 hours. Yeah. He's being like, don't be a victim and then turning them into victims of his abuse. Right. Don't be a victim to your dehydration. Right. Exactly. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:53:04 You're really letting your diabetes get to you like that? Yeah. Wow. Who's in the driver's seat? So anyways, one of the new reports
Starting point is 00:53:11 kind of added some texture to that, explains that he would, if somebody was not living up to his standards during the course of the seminar, he would label them losers.
Starting point is 00:53:24 They would put a L on their forehead while playing Beck's loser and then get them to go up on stage and drink brown liquid that he called like a mystery liquid and it is designed to make you sick for quote designed to have a lasting effect. So it's not like a gross thing that you swallow and get over in a moment. It's like- It's poison? Yeah. Basically, it makes you-
Starting point is 00:53:51 What? Throw up. A quote from somebody who was his former director of security. Participants were throwing up all over the place in public restrooms, hotel rooms. Oh, boy. Yeah. Robbins' lawyer said it was just a gross shot. It didn't contain laxatives.
Starting point is 00:54:09 It was just pickle juice, apple juice, lemon juice, tomato juice, and a dash of Tabasco. It's basically Bloody Mary without the vodka, so I don't know what everyone's tripping about. It's also Ipecac. Yes. Anyways, it's just really fratty, hazing shit, and it kind of goes with his fratty behavior towards women.
Starting point is 00:54:29 And by fratty, I mean, you know, rapey and, like, wildly problematic. Yeah, just abusive monster shit. Yeah. So, anyways, they, you know, BuzzFeed is asking if you have any experience with Tony Robbins, hit them up at tips at buzzfeed.com because apparently the more people who come to them with their experiences, the weirder this shit gets. And what, 10 women have come forward so far? Yes, now 10 women. Yeah. So what is he just like threatening them with lawyers or something?
Starting point is 00:55:05 Yes. He has like a very powerful law firm that represents him that, you know, he before anybody like works for him or gets into one of his seminars, they basically sign away all their human rights. Like it's just like he NDAs them in the most like insane way. Wow. So like you can't say anything about what happens. That's just telling right there, right? I mean like. It'd be one thing if it's like,
Starting point is 00:55:31 please don't tell people about like the information I'm giving you because that's like proprietary and then I can't charge people for it anymore if it's out there. But if it's like, don't even talk about anything you've ever seen or heard me or done. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I guess, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Is there even an NDA that would limit like, don't go and take my teachings and then go teach them right don't make other people drink shit water right because that's proprietary abuse yeah there's contract law where the legalese might say one thing but then there's also i think in the u.s uh court system like there there are some laws that are like okay but this is common sense like you can't just abuse somebody and you know right and be like right well you signed an nda so you can't tell anyone about the abuse i inflicted upon you poop on stage to beck's loser right um it's so weird that they put on people's vomiting and stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Vomiting back in their hotel room, which suggests that it's after they get home from the long-ass day. They're still sick. I'm curious to hear from the people what rationalization the people who have the Stockholm Syndrome
Starting point is 00:56:46 like around Tony are saying like to his defense right because I'm sure eventually you are he's going to have to put people up that are on his side that are going to clear the strip it was actually this thing actually when I was vomiting I became more powerful
Starting point is 00:57:02 it increased my personal power tenfold. I mean, he's obviously very charismatic, and he uses that charisma to do what he wants to people, and create his own rules of how he can treat people. And I'm sure it is useful
Starting point is 00:57:20 to some people, but there's probably ways of doing it that doesn't involve physically abusing them. That's what I mean. But I'm trying to think of how those, those people are going to rationalize being poisoned. Maybe like what doesn't kill me makes me stronger.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Right. It's like, I also had a terrible GI problem because of that too. And that, but then that allowed me to be in touch with my doctor. I mean, I have gallstones right now. Maybe I should go and drink his brown
Starting point is 00:57:46 sludge. Please. I mean, it sounds like he's really helping people. What is his platform? It does sound like you're letting your gallstones make you into a victim. Yes. That's my problem. He's like, now punch him. Punch him.
Starting point is 00:58:03 It's really wild because one of the stories that they report is you know an eyewitness testimony from a woman who uh he brought on stage and she was in an abusive relationship her husband like physically abused her verbally abused her and he was like yeah but are you like a crazy bitch sometimes tony robbins said that and but so the the wild thing is that she still defends him like as the article is being written she's like yeah but he helped me like stand up to my husband and stuff you know why because he's already taking people who are victims of abuse and then acted on a very subtle way where his abuse comes off
Starting point is 00:58:43 as empowerment but there's already people who might be caught in a cycle where they're like, I can look at my abuser and try and rationalize why this is not an untenable situation. It's disgusting. Fuck, Tony. Yeah, man. Yeah, just bring this shit down already. What the fuck? Yeah. Why is it still happening?
Starting point is 00:59:06 All right. We're going to do a little round of what we're fucking with. That's fucking weird. Just things that we're enjoying. We talked about Chernobyl on yesterday's episode, but Miles, you finally watched it. I finally watched it. I can't stop talking about it.
Starting point is 00:59:23 I restarted it after the fifth episode. Yeah. Because I was so, have you seen it? I haven't seen it yet. I went back. Yeah. Because I really wanted to just watch it again, knowing what I knew, and then just navigating it like that. It's, you would, I think you'd like it.
Starting point is 00:59:41 But again, I do not have a master's degree i mean in anything that's your major flaw i know that's why i'm that's why i'm sort of afraid to even give my take right now because i feel like you're just gonna eviscerate it um but it's just good things yeah it's just the way it's told and i mean that oh god i can't talk enough about it yeah fucking is moving it is the hbo show is good also, the podcast is pretty cool, and they do an interesting thing where they go episode by episode, and the showrunner takes you through what was real
Starting point is 01:00:14 and what he had to fabricate and what details of the story he had to change around and what actually happens. So it's almost like the podcast preempts the articles that BuzzFeed would write about Chernobyl. Exactly. They're like preempts the articles that buzzfeed would write about exactly like here are the things that chernobyl didn't do like accurately right like immediately after you're like okay this is what happened i had to do this for this like i condensed 12 scientists into one character yeah that's like the characters that are the most unbelievable are
Starting point is 01:00:40 the ones that are most accurate to like the guy who is just like you'll do as I say now press the button that's going to cause a nuclear meltdown right and you're just like why how is that guy so that was not real right yeah no that was the guy who was exactly as they depicted him and the the backstory to that is actually uh with you only find out about it in the podcast. They had to cut it out of the show. So there's this guy who's like the bad boss the night of Chernobyl. Oh, I'm familiar with the bad boss type. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:17 As a screenwriter. Oh, boy. He is just demanding that everybody do the wrong thing. And when people question him he's like i've been working here for eight years you're a puny piece of shit like get out of my face and go press the button that's the wrong button to press uh so the backstory to why he like was so head down and like irrational about this is that he had in the past like been around a accident a nuclear submarine and come home with like all this radiation on him and then his child had ended up
Starting point is 01:01:55 dying of like thyroid cancer or leukemia and like but he refused to believe that it was like him that had caused it and they reportedly was exposed to a near fatal or potentially fatal exposure to radiation right which is something that can like a radiated person will pass that radiation on like or just from the clothes or whatever
Starting point is 01:02:18 yeah yeah so it's like that guy's whole mind frame which seems so inexplicable is actually a true story. And the backstory to it is one of the most interesting things. Yeah, and it was interesting to hear the showrunners, too, be like, yeah, we didn't want to sort of play armchair psychologists, which I'm like, oh, that's responsible. But then I'm also like, you're also kind of doing a dramatic thing, so you can give us a little bit of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:47 But it made the scene interesting. But anyway, that's one thing we're fucking with that's one thing we're fucking with another thing fleabag season two also very good check it out there's not that much to say about it other than that it's just incredible i heard the chemistry between the priest and and and god and god is amazing palpable. I mean, those rosary beads, man, melting down between his fingertips. So let's talk about Sicko Mode, this new song from Travis Scott. You guys heard this? You seen this? You heard about this? So Miles, you were noticing the other day that Travis Scott mentions Jamba Juice twice in sycamore right and i just passively
Starting point is 01:03:28 was like okay but then i like googled it and so had the internet about nine months ago also uh to the point it's just weird to hear this man from houston like by name call out jamba juice twice in one song like very casually he went on like i think it was fallon yeah i think and like he did a quote-unquote blind taste test of jamba juice where he like knew every single one even down to the flavors yeah the name the fifth one they mixed two flavors together and he guessed them all and not staged at all but it was totally staged like you could tell it was staged. It was badly staged. But the fact that
Starting point is 01:04:08 he would lie about having that ability suggests some weird relationship to Jamba Juice. His management was like, you know what would be a fun bit to do with Travis? He loves Jamba Juice. Maybe something with blind taste has to show.
Starting point is 01:04:24 But it's funny how he attributes it all to Kylie Jenner. Right. Because he was like, I wasn't really, I never fucked with Jamba Juice until Kylie Jenner. Right. Who strikes me as growing up in LA, there was like a style of kid who was always at a Jamba Juice. Right. Like when I used to work at this laser tag place, there was a Jamba Juice on the first floor. And that used to be the motherfucking spot.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah. Like that was the bar. Right. that's where kids got their drinks yeah was that jamba juice and jamba like can we get jamba jump there was like a whole so i feel like kylie jenner is from the fucking jamba crazed generation yeah and then god and travis got ted meanwhile there is a people were like thought it was so funny. Just like the M&M Mom Spaghetti over and over, there is a Travis Scott remix of Sicko Mode just called Jamba Juice. And what they did is made everything rhyme with Jamba Juice, and it's something we're fucking with, and I'll play it right now. This shit way too formal. Y'all know I like Jamba Joes.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Stacey Dash, most of these cop like Jamba Joes. All of these hoes, I made all rap like Jamba Joes. I love a good Anyways. I love a good trolly remix. And yeah, fucking with that. Did you see Booksmart? Not yet. Either of you, Jessica Williams' character has this monologue about Jamba Juice. And she was like, you know, I partied too much in my 20s. And I got banned from all the Jamba Ju and she was like, you know, I partied too much in my 20s and I got
Starting point is 01:06:05 banned from all the Jamba Juices across the entire nation. It was great. She's like, Jamba Juice is great. It's a sensation and I'm banned from all of it. And is she like lamenting that she's like ruined her ability to go to a Jamba? To go to Jamba Juice. Do you like Jamba Juice? I have never been that's fine what what year is uh book smart supposed to take place uh current oh current yeah oh you thought 2019 she was calling out the wave i was talking about right yeah yeah very specifically it's 2003 i mean
Starting point is 01:06:39 maybe jamba juice well she was talking about uh I think her character is meant to be probably in her early mid-30s. And she was talking about having partied too hard in her 20s. So maybe she was calling. That was my next question, is how old is she supposed to be? Because she's in her 20s, I think. Is she? I think, yeah. Born, she's about to turn 30.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Look at that. Wow. Good for her. July 31st, 1989. Nailed it. Happy birthday, Jessica Williams. So I think that, yeah, I don't know what era she was talking about. I would highly suggest you go to Jamba Juice.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Okay. Actually, no. You could just eat spoonfuls of sugar and take a bite of a banana. I do that already. Okay, then you've had Jamba Juice. I'm good, yeah. Just put grass clipp bite of a banana. I do that already. Okay, then you've had your juice. I'm good, yeah. Just put grass clippings in a blender. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Yeah, that was the one thing that Jamba Juice really got me with. Wheatgrass? The wheatgrass shot. I was like, wow, this tastes bad. It must be working. Yeah. It must be great for me. It tastes like total shit.
Starting point is 01:07:40 It's actually the Tony Robbins brown juice that he gives to everybody. But it's one of those things where you go into Jamba Juice and you'll see people who just came from the gym. Right. And I was I remember subconscious. I'm like, yeah, yeah, because I'm like this person. I'm probably going to go to the gym. I'm probably going to go to the gym. But, you know, let me get that protein boost just because.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Right. Because I just want to build unnecessary weight on my body. Yeah. Are you fucking with Booksmart? Is it a good movie? Yes, I enjoyed it quite a bit. How does it compare to Blockers? It's similar in that, you know, it's focused around high school girls.
Starting point is 01:08:17 It is way more, like, sex positive than a lot of other teen movies that came before it. Tone-wise, pretty similar. Like, they're both fun teen romps. I love her romp. How's your laughing more? I think, I mean, they're pretty comparable. They're pretty equal. Yeah, although I haven't seen Blockers since it came out,
Starting point is 01:08:42 so I don't super remember it. Okay, but from your master's degree point of view, if you had to put one over the other, I'm sorry out, so I don't super remember it. Okay. Both very funny. But from your master's degree point of view, if you had to put one over the other, I'm sorry, you're going to have to do it. I would say book smart over Blockers. Okay. I'll check that out because I really like Blockers. Is the director a woman as well?
Starting point is 01:08:56 It's Olivia Wilde. Oh, that's right. Yeah. See, this is why. It's not a perfect movie and it's got some problems. We did a recent Bechtelcast episode on it. Never mind. I'm not going to watch it if it's not perfect.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Yeah. Our guest was Vanessa Chester, your friend. Yeah, the homie Vanessa Chester. Thank you for hooking us up. She played Becky in The Little Princess, and she was Jeff Goldblum's daughter in The Lost World. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Really? Yeah. Oh, wow. I remember when she was in that, I was like, wait. What do you mean you're Jeff Goldblum's daughter in The Lost World. What? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Oh, wow. I remember when she was in that, I was like, wait. What do you mean you're Jeff Goldblum's daughter? All right. Fuck yeah. All right, Steven Spielberg.
Starting point is 01:09:33 That's pretty cool. I didn't know you were friends with. She was great. Jack, I mean. Jeff Goldblum's daughter from. That's what I like to say whenever I meet someone new. Apropos of nothing. I'm Miles Gray.
Starting point is 01:09:44 I'm actually friends with Jeff Goldblum's black daughter from Jurassic Park, The Lost World. Yeah. And they're like, okay. The toilet paper's over there. This is a CVS. I don't know how I forgot that since that's how you opened your job interview. What is this, a podcast? Okay, let me just start off top.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Hang on. Let me stop you right there. Are you recording this? Good. My name is Miles Gray. I'm friends with Jeff Goldblum's daughter from Jurassic Park
Starting point is 01:10:07 The Lost World, Vanessa Lee Chester. And then the other thing I'm fucking with is just the NBA offseason being more interesting than the regular season. The league could be
Starting point is 01:10:16 completely different. Yeah. They announced that Clay Thompson is in Space Jam 2, which has nothing to do with what's actually happening in the NBA,
Starting point is 01:10:23 but it got me so excited for the idea of LeBron, Anthony Davis, and Klay all being on the same team. Like if Klay signs with the Lakers, they're all in Space Jam 2, and they're all, Klay's about to be a free agent, and AD is signing with LeBron and the Lakers. And yeah, shout out to Frank Vogel the new Lakers coach my friend since I was in high school yeah a little biased
Starting point is 01:10:49 little biased he gave you rides to school he did full disclosure gave me rides home from school oh gotcha oh he didn't totally replace your family he was the hip uncle hop in Jack put in that Wu-Tang tape Wu-Tang
Starting point is 01:11:03 cool well Caitlin Jack, put in that Wu-Tang tape. Wu-Tang. Cool. Well, Caitlin. Yeah. It's been such a pleasure having you as always. Thank you so much for having me. I've had a delightful time. That sounded insincere.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Yeah, no, this has been great, I guess. Yeah, I've had fun here today. You guys are hilarious no really uh such a pleasure to be here with everyone look truly honestly sincerely i've had a great time oh you don't have to tell you don't have to tell us we hang out all the time anyway yeah it's even weird to be like hey it's been great having you i'm like it's like we see hang out all the time anyway. It's even weird to be like, hey, it's been great having you. I'm like, we see each other all the time. Where can people find you, though, is the question. You can find me online
Starting point is 01:11:51 at Caitlin Durante on Twitter and Instagram. And then you can find me, I'm going to be in Europe in August and September. I know it's a ways off. You simply must go to Tuscany is what we were saying.
Starting point is 01:12:09 You simply must. Before we start recording. You simply must go to Tuscany. But I'm going to be doing comedy. Some shows at the Edinburgh Fringe Fest. I'm going to be in Dublin and London and Paris, hopefully doing shows in those places as well. And so, you know, you'll have forgotten about all that.
Starting point is 01:12:30 So just, you know, have me back, okay, before I go so I can... Okay, I'm falling apart. I'm also teaching some online screenwriting classes. So they're accessible to everyone and they start in mid-July. So check out my website, CaitlinDurante.com for more info and to register if you want to take an online screenwriting class
Starting point is 01:12:52 from me, someone who has a master's degree and that's someone who's at a Starbucks every day being like, I'm actually a writer so that's why I'm here looking at porn at Starbucks Caitlin, is there a tweet you've been enjoying by any chance? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:09 I hope I screenshotted it. This is from very funny comedian Debra DiGiovanni. She says, appliances I use the most. Number one, electric kettle. Number two, back scratcher. Number three, the other one. one electric kettle number two back scratcher number three the other one uh miles where can people find you no get me the other one not my main one uh find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray um i'll be gone next week just just an announcement jack told me to leave so i'm going
Starting point is 01:13:43 if you're in italy out of here if you're in italy told me to leave, so I'm going. If you're in Italy. He's out of here. If you're in Italy, hit me up. Yeah. Maybe we'll hang out. Damn. Are you going to Tuscany? Jack said I simply must. You simply must.
Starting point is 01:13:51 You simply must. So I simply must go to Florence and to check out the Tuscan region. It's really something else I hear. A tweet I like is from Yusuf Roach, at Yusuf Roach. Oh, man. Such a Yusuf tweet. It says, laughing at the thought of the Sonic commercial guys burning to death
Starting point is 01:14:07 at the drive-in. Oh my god. Can you imagine if there was a commercial that dark? It's like, yeah, what do you think about corn dogs? What's that smoke in here? Oh my god, the doors are locked. The Sonic guys, huh? They're the best.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Sorry, just stalling for time i do love that when you go on vacation it's to italy and europe and when i go on vacation it's to get my stomach pumped because oh yeah i've too many men have jizzed into my stomach. Whoa. That was a fan theory. That was, yeah. Oh. That I started. Jack, what happened? Well, I want to be as big as Rod Stewart and, you know, Lil' Kim. We were talking, I don't know if you heard, this is a myth that people used to say a lot in, like, middle school, junior high, high school, that, like, some celebrity had always had to have their stomach pumped.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Oh, I heard these things, yeah. Who did you hear it as? I feel like it was Courtney Love or something. That was one. Okay. It all changed. We realized there's regional. This myth is regional.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Interesting. So that's an allusion to that. I get it. Now Jack just rattling off. I know. I was like, Jack, what is happening over there? You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Some tweets I've been enjoying.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Anna Dresden tweeted, oranges must really hate what we do to them. Drill tweeted, age zero, baby. I want my dad dad. Age 25, millennial. I want my dada. Do you see how fucked this is? Whoa. And Megan Amron tweeted, the human body is basically flavored water.
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Starting point is 01:16:12 We ride out on miles. What's it gonna be? Oh, let's do a track by Big Thief. And it's called UFOF. Yeah, yeah. Think about's called UFOF. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. Think about that.
Starting point is 01:16:27 These UFOs fuck. Yeah. I've always said that. It actually stands for, I think, friend. It's like their new album, Big Thief. Anyway. Oh, okay. UFOF.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Get into it. Cool. They're, you know, just get into it. It's the weekend. Enjoy yourselves. Hey, Miles. Did you know that Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio? And for more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
Starting point is 01:16:50 you listen to your favorite shows. Did I know that? Did you know that directive you gave me? Did you know that? Yes. Cool. I do now. All right.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Well, we're going to ride out on that UFOF song. Hey. We'll be back on Monday. So have a great weekend. You really worked through that. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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