The Daily Zeitgeist - You're Trendbelievable 6/12: NYC Mayoral Race, RFK Jr./CDC, Great White Shark, Warner Bros./Discovery, Trump Approval Ratings

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

In this edition of You're Trendbelievable, Jack and Miles discuss the NYC Mayoral race, RFK Jr. purging the CDC's vaccine panel, tracking the largest Great White Shark, the un-merging of Warner Bros. & Discovery, Trump's approval ratings and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We were doing it before we started recording and then started going, oh! Like, like, Polly Walnuts. And it is actually a sample of Andrew Dice Clay. Unbelievable. And that's unbelievable. And it is actually a sample of Andrew Dice Clay unbelievable Unbelievable and that as we say is unbelievable My name is Jack that over there is miles is the show where we recording a show don't talk about anything we just So that's the thing we found out listeners We've found out though. There are some more people more people listening to the show! Tell your friends about it. Welcome, welcome.

Don't tell them the part about how the show is a second-rate podcast. Yeah, yeah. Tell them it's good. And we're stupid and I peed myself that one time. Don't tell them that part. Just tell them about like the smart... You said it was... That people say I peed myself. Oh, okay. They're fine. You know? Like this one said it was that I that people say I people allegedly you know But mm-hmm if that's what you say, bro

Yeah, yeah get the word out people new listeners are coming yeah, welcome like gang welcome welcome welcome no good reason Our shows bad. No, it's a it's fine Zoran our shows bad Um, our show's bad. No, it's a, it's fine. Uh, our show's bad. I don't know. Maybe it is. It's just spiraling on my, I don't know what the fuck are we even doing here, man. I mean,

Zoran, mom, Donnie. Yeah. Mom, Donnie, isn't it? What is that? Mom, Donnie. Oh, mom, Donnie is it. Oh, sorry's like a Mondani. Oh, it's like a Mondani. Oh, it's like a Mondani.

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Oh, it's like a Mondani. campaigns, very good with the social media. It's probably also like the legit populism, you know what I mean? The actual like- Well, that's the thing that got in the way of the Democrats winning the election last time, so like, I don't understand how that, that should be hurting him.

He's running against like main centrist Democrat guy Cuomo, he should be getting crushed according to the Democratic party. Like this guy must, real liability for himself. What's going on here? I mean, again, like this is the thing that really people, the campaigns should take a look at. And again, not for the Democrats because they've lost the plot,

but like actual progressives or like DSA candidates, people who are like running for office to upset the status quo. This is a pretty good blueprint. But I think more than that, it's just merely what he stands for and what he's saying in this time of great strife and inequality. And that his main opponent in the city of New York

is somebody whose bagel order is an English muffin and who doesn't even know that you say bacon, egg and cheese. It's a bacon, cheese and egg on muffin and I take the bacon off. Yeah, cool. cheese. It's a bacon, cheese and egg on muffin. Bacon, bacon, cheese and egg. Yeah, cool. To keep my grillish figure, sorry, I can't stop flirting like a fucking creep. Anyways, yeah, he pulled ahead in the polls,

which we don't put a lot of stock in polls here. The Daily Zeitgeist. But it's great to show, it's really about familiarity. Clearly the voting population there is familiar with Zoran. And also these sorts of people generally surprise, do better on election day than they're doing in the polling. The Atlantic for one, they seem pretty nervous because they just dropped an article, New York is not a democracy.

I saw that. Could ranked choice voting help Zoran Mamdani beat Andrew Cuomo? And then a picture of him looking dumb and- Wow, that's crazy. The pro genocide of the Atlantic is questioning Zoran Mamdani's candidacy. And then they just drew a bunch of shit all around him.

Like just a bunch of- Dude, it's so fucking disgusting how they're slamming this guy merely because he's like a Muslim guy, supports Palestinian people is also anti-landlord. So like literally every part of the establishment is like, what's the guy who's the mayoral race? When it was clear, there was no strong front runner. Oh wait, no, that might be Cuomo they're talking about. Anyways.

Well, either way, like Cuomo is also engaging in some pretty disgusting Islamophobia bullshit because he was sending out attack mailers against Mamdani that were like exaggerating his facial hair, like thickening it and elongating it to make him look like some kind of, I don't know, I think like Al Qaeda analog or something is what they're going for.

And these were aimed at Jewish voters in the city in order to paint his like pro-Palestinian support as him being a threat to Jewish people in the city. Really fucking cool Cuomo. Yeah, so may your rise in the polls continues on and would love to see you be the first Muslim mayor of New York City. Yeah. All right.

CDC, how's that going? So RFK Jr took over, but he promised that- The vaccine sign-off that you say is now become way too real. He promised, Miles, he promised at the start that he was gonna be cool about the vaccine stuff. You sound like Senator Bill Cassidy, who's been saying that, who's like, he told me that's why I confirmed him is that he would, it

wouldn't be a bunch of nonsense around vaccines. Well, so he just fired the whole independent vaccine advisory panel and replace them with people who you guessed it, don't give a fuck about science. We don't give a fuck. We don't give a fuck about science. We don't give a fuck. We don't give a fuck about science. It's science. Just a bunch of anti-vax grifters, COVID conspiracy theorists, COVID vaccine skeptics. And we don't give a fuck to your own research. The most, like, I guess normal of these people is like the COVID vaccine skeptic.

And then you just have across the board, anti-vaxxers, like, whack those. You know what I mean? But it's like, the people were like skeptical is like, I guess the most reasonable seeming people that he's appointed to this, what was an independent body. I don't know about this stuff. But this is, yeah, the people are,

there's walkouts at the CDC, calls for RFK Jr. to resign, obviously, because as many public health experts are saying, like, this is going to lead to a fucked up spread of totally preventable illnesses. So what happened when he went to I think it was American Samoa was like, spread his. Yeah, me like during a measles outbreak was like, It spread his. Yeah, me like during a measles outbreak was like, you know, we got we got to be careful about these about these vaccines and led to the deaths of children. And then later was like, I don't know.

Well, I wouldn't take I wouldn't blame me for that. I was there for them, following literally what I said about vaccines about me. And I did say measles, I'd be more worried about weasels. And yeah, some children, unfortunately, passed away like it's really fucked up to the point where like yeah you can treat all this stuff with vitamin A yeah cool cool cool dude so shit's still falling apart everywhere else know, it's not just LA. It's still happening. Oh, yeah. Full class of are there burning way most? No, no. I guess on this podcast, in this household, we believe the way modes are the future.

Thank you. Thank you. Treat them well and let them lead the way. OK, Whitney. That's all I care about is the way. No. The other thing you care deeply about is Jaws. Oh, yeah, Jaws, the movie, my first personality as a four year old, the guy who likes Jaws a lot. I'm still still eating off that.

I mean, for new listeners of the show, canonically, Jack is one of the biggest Jaws fans there are love. And he kind of is into the idea of getting his whole shit bit by a great way. I did, yeah, yeah. So like, I had seen Jaws a hundred times by the time I was like six years old and that was like the first thing I told people

about myself, it was my whole personality. And then when they would be like, what do you wanna be when you grow up? Jaws. I would say, I wanna be eaten by a shark. I wanna be a shark-eologist, which was a made up phrase that I came up with that was cute.

You know, I had workshopped it with some adults and they thought it was cute. And then they were like, oh, that's cute. I was like, and then I want to get eaten like Quint at the end. Jesus Christ. What was an adult's reaction to be like, and then my dream is to be consumed by a shark.

Yeah. Sharkyology. Oh, and get consumed and turned into shark energy. So I'm flowing through the alcohol on this little boy's breath. Does this smell like vodka? Anyways, uh, we've got good news. We've got news that I feel like is just like that a science writer is like, how can I bend this into the plot of Jaws?

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And here we are. We've got the largest great white on record. At least there's a superlative. Yes. One of the largest or they're saying the largest great white on record named Contender, of 14 foot

1600 pound shark has been need to name it like it's a fucking SUV I know the Dodge contender maybe they were just like a fan of on the waterfront or something Yeah, yeah, and then like it's like no that other one could have been a contender this one is contender This one is can go on also on the waterfront right now feasting exactly been spotted With their like GPS tracker for the first time just off the coast of North Carolina I mean they really set this shit up for dramatic tension They have it tagged but it's a tag that's on its dorsal fin that you can only

Track when it's doors dorsal fin breaks the surface. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like they just... Yeah, exactly. It's like the part where the yellow things pop to the surface and then the dorsal fin comes up. It's like, and we back. But yeah, it's right outside the Outer Banks now as marine biologists say, quote, feeding aggressively. And it's funny, in this biologists say, quote, feeding aggressively. And it's funny, in this article, they're like, and this is near a beach town where people go during the summer, and one of the great,

anyway, they're saying this isn't really anomalous. This is just part of a pattern where they're just gonna load up and eat because then they have a thousand mile swim they gotta do. So, normal shark tings, basically. But obviously don't go out there and try and blow this fucker up with a barrel full of tannerite or something. As we all know Steven Spielberg basically kicked off the shark extinction event. The novel that he based his film on.

So you might not realize this but the novel draws has a film based on it was how Steven Spielberg Was he was like I do in many ways feel a little bit responsible for the thing that was this like anti-shark bias that was kicked off by the novel and Also, you know, that's like Hitler blaming based on the novel. That's like Hitler blaming the protocols of the elders of Zion He's like, I mean, you know, there was a book that kind of. The book and then some of the actions that I did based off of the book. The book or beliefs.

Anyway, it's not all me. But anyway, Steven Spielberg, great to see. Also, I mean, shout out to him because all of these headlines hit our brains like this because of Jaws. Like, great white shark spotted off, you know, the coast of of a, you know, aggressively feeding off the coast of a picturesque beach town. Does sound dope as hell.

There's also there was a like, I think it was like 2020 or like 60 Minutes, one of those like news magazine TV shows that had like a guy on who just fucks with like great white sharks and like goes out and like swims with them and is like, they're actually really lovely creatures and like will like just swim with great white sharks. I've definitely seen videos of that, of I guess people doing that and I'm like, what the fuck? I mean, whatever, you know, go be grizzly man, however you want to. I mean, I would, I would love to go be grizzly man, however you want to. I mean, I would, I would love to be the grizzly man of great white sharks.

Would you Jack get into like a cage and do that whole thing? Yeah, definitely into a cage. Yeah. Oh dude, the way you just know, thought, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So you really want to, you really want to be down there with them. Yeah. I feel like, yeah. Right. What the cage isn't going to get bent apart. Like, first of all, they don't want to be in that video where. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, right? With, the cage isn't going to get bent apart. Like, first of all, they don't want to eat you. Have you seen that video where the one almost breaches the cage?

There's a terrifying video. No, like some tourists are doing it. They get in the diving cage and the fucker's mouth just like starts breaking through and they're like, ah! Uh, can we pull me up? Pull me up, please. Yeah. What's the safe word again?

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We're big Zaslav fans over here. Love this guy. CEO of Warner Bros. Discovery. CEO of Warner Bros. You know, one of the villains of the writer's strike, one of the villains of just like- Everything? CEO media, CEO dumb. Yeah, CEO dumb.

Literally dumb. CEO dumb. CEO dumb. But there's a report, so Warner Brothers Discovery is now splitting, so it's just Warner Brothers Discovery is now splitting. So it's just Warner Brothers and Discovery as separate companies after joining those companies. So it went, Warner Brothers joins with Discovery, launch HBO Max, drop HBO so we're just Max. And then this year, add back HBO Max,

make a big announcement about it. And now splitting Warner Brothers from Discovery. Sounds like a lot of bad decisions are being made over there. You'd think so, but I mean, what does it cost? Like, it's just keeping them in their name in the headlines, and like, it's not like they have to pay money for doing these bad, oh, wait a second here. So it turns out they've been consulting, they've hired

hedge consulting agency McKinsey to like instruct them on like how. I get like, it's just like he's hired somebody to like tell him how to do his job, but also probably to. So he has like he can be like, oh, that's what they said. So he doesn't ever have to. Yeah, outsource the decision making

so the risk isn't on you as much, but still is, yeah. Yeah. And so they advised them on all of these decisions and somebody broke down like how much each decision cost them. So in 2022, McKinsey said, Warner Brothers, y'all should merge with Discovery into one company. And they said, oh, okay. And then they said, all Brothers, y'all should merge with Discovery into one company.

And they said, oh, okay. And then they said, all right, for that advice, we're charging you $55 million. Okay. And they're like, okay, fine. What a deal. Zazlov's like, what a deal. I mean, at that price, fine, of course. Hold on.

So your idea is to merge the two companies that are owned by the same entity? Good, good call, good call. Then between 22 and 25, McKinsey told them again, to change HBO to HBO Max, then to Max, and then back to HBO Max. You know how much they charged them for that sequence of decisions? 37 million fucking dollars for that one. Yeah, at least. Okay, fine. At least, I mean, that's a fucking one. Yeah, at least.

At least, I mean that's a fucking deal. Yeah, okay, I was gonna guess way more. So that's a good deal. And now, that shit's getting weird. They're like, you know what? The McKinsey says, you know what, Warner Brothers discovery? You guys should separate.

And they're like, wait. We actually don't like your energy together. You told us like fucking three years ago to fucking merge. Ah, actually no, this is, no, you guys should separate. That's definitely a good deal. Okay, fine. How much is the bill for that? $63 million.

McKinsey billed Warner Brothers Discovery $63 million to basically be like, you guys should split up even though we told you a couple of years ago for $55 million to get together. That's a total of $155 million. They just shit down the toilet because they can't just, because these people are fucking so bad at their jobs. Paid over a hundred million dollars to look indecisive and stupid.

You know how many fucking original shows you could have produced? Pilots, you could have fucking financed for that. And then what do we do about our people? Or then they have to pay McKinsey to tell them if they should keep the pilot or not. It's so funny because then McKinsey also will come and tell the studios and they're like, hey, actually, you know, like having diversity makes money. So think about that. Do I know that that's the one piece of guys are so fucking smart how much is

that 75 million there you go we need to have McKinsey man let's check in with Trump's approval real quick on a couple of things because we did we can we move can we work for McKinsey though like people to judge it no I think you have to be like straight up a CIA agent work for them yeah that makes sense we have to be sheep dipped oh shit yeah yeah where you like work for a cutout like a thing That's like not really a company, but it is a company, but it's actually the CIA. Yeah podcasting Podcasting that would be the perfect cover because like nobody knows like who listens to what you could say of a podcast and most

The time people like oh, okay, whatever. Yeah, you know, and most of the time people are like, oh, okay, whatever. That's all. You know, just keep it moving. You're like, oh God, it's a great cover. It's a great cover. Or it'll be like, hey man, you like Rogan? And you're like, uh, I'm sorry. I'm a compulsive liar.

I don't work in podcasting. Yeah. I actually, I'm a CIA agent. Yeah. I'm a CIA agent. Just pivot to that. Whoa, dude. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Just pivot to that. Whoa, dude. That's pretty cool.

Yeah. And you know what? I'm not even allowed to talk about it or talk to you at all. I'm mad, dude. I'm actually Kobe Bryant. Oh wow. But yeah, Trump's dumb ass is currently sending

his approvals into the toilet. Not that he gives a fuck, but all of the body snatching and broad daylight of innocent people and their children apparently isn't going down well with people, even if they are like mainlining mainstream media visuals of burning autonomous vehicles and some spray paint being put on a wall.

He was at the Kennedy Center for, to see his, apparently his favorite musical is Les Miserables. That's fair. Yeah, Les Miserables, bro. He's got very like cosmopolitan taste. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And so while he was at the Kennedy Center that he's in the midst of absolutely gutting and changing all the programming so it's not woke anymore. He got a pretty mixed reception in Washington DC with people cheering. This is mixed. This is definitely mixed.

Definitely mixed. I'm not saying everybody's booing in there because clearly people are also like DC changes with whatever whoever's in power. Yeah. Like, so you're going to get definitely some MAGA people in there, but then you also have the DC locals and this isn't raucous applause. This is like cheering and banger. Here it is.

Yeah, there's some booze in there. There's definitely booze. There's definitely people who are like, yay. It's hard to tell. Some people are like shaking their fist. It's either they're shaking their fist or they're like waving like one wood at a boat. Like back in the 1910s, like a boat is sailing away and you're like. Yeah, or it's like, go, go, go, go fist,

or it's like 19, like a silent movie about a snake oil salesman. You're rapscallion. And I'm like, why, I gotta. But what's also ironic. I choose to believe it was the latter. Just angry fist shaking. Yeah, it feels, I mean, for that, the age of that crowd,

that's worse than the middle finger, as I understand it. But it's also ironic, because earlier when people were filing in, a group of drag queens came in and everyone was applauding them too. But anyway, here he is. His approval ratings are now at 38%. People hate the big, beautiful bill right now.

It's at a 27% approval, which is, I was like, oh. Like even with Republicans, cause Republicans, when they're asked about Medicare, more people are saying the funding needs to stay at the same levels, if not more, is where the Republican voters stand on Medicare too. So anyway, everything else isn't a surprise, like only these underwater on everything,

like 43% only, like 54% disapprove on immigration issues, 56% approve deportations. And that used to not be the case, right? No, like it's- Immigration used to not be- He used to be, he was polling positively, which was like a lot of people, the last polls were like, oh, he's using this as a green light for this shit.

But then when it happens, as you saw from like the Latinos for Trump people in Miami and stuff, and like, no, but not, oh, wait, no, not like this. Or there was, I saw this thing in the Daily Beast where this guy who had a roofing company in Florida, like six of his guys were taken away. And he was like really getting emotional by it. And he's like, but I supported the president.

Like you motherfuckers. He like, but I supported the president. Like you motherfuckers. He is, but I supported this. Yeah, it's like, I didn't think. Who did you think? Listen to what the fuck they say. It's only the Democrats that don't follow through on what they're gonna promise on the campaign trail. That's right.

Like that's very fucking different. But literally a plurality, over 50% disapprove, straight up. Like your options were approved, disapprove, not offer an opinion. Like, so people could be like, oh, you know, I don't know yet. Still making up my mind. Immigration, 54% disapprove. Deportations, 56%. The economy, 56% disapprove.

Trade, 57% disapprove. Universities, which I thought, like, I don't know, based on how the mainstream media treats it, I assumed like they were doing that because people hated it. 54% of people disapprove of how he's doing that. Israel, 52% of people disapprove. Russia, 57% disapprove. Yeah, so yeah, toilet dweller numbers.

Like really bad in the 30s on the approval front on most of these. Yeah, but this, toilet dweller numbers. Like really bad. In the 30s on the approval front on most of these. But this is kind of normal for him, right? Most people are like, man, fuck this guy, but because through minority rule in this country and the lack of real voter protections being put in place, they can kind of figure shit out like this. But then on Thursday, that's today, actually,

as I look at my fucking sundial. Sundial, actually, is what I use. Like, Trump posted this on Truth Social, which indicates to me, at the very least, he's hearing grumblings about the deportations. Doesn't mean he's gonna change anything, but usually he doesn't give a fuck. But when he comes out to say, like address a certain industry usually means

that the lobbyists or donors have been blowing his phones up. This is what he posted quote, our great farmers and people in the hotel and leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good long time workers away from them with those jobs being almost impossible to replace. In many cases, the criminals allowed into our country by the very stupid Biden open, blah, blah, blah, blah. He said, this is not good. But then he said, we must protect our farmers, but get the criminals out of the USA. Changes are coming. Now what that means, I don't fucking know. I mean, maybe it means that his whole, that the latest Homeland Security, like that the latest Homeland Security, like, advisement from Miller being like,

just go to like Home Depot. As long as you're making arrests of brown people, you're right. Maybe that's not going over so big for some reason. Yeah, maybe just generally. Making him look like a complete fucking idiot. Is he generally trying to villainize people who are here also like under a process

where they're attaining citizenship and paying fucking taxes. Is that maybe doesn't? Nah, nah, maybe not. I mean, here's the thing, like with all like the government spending cuts and things that are happening, that's like reverberating across political boundaries

because there are many people who like rely on funding for certain programs that employ them or whatever. And so these ripple effects will continue at pace. So anyway, LA is still fine though for the record. LA is still fine for the record. We are fine. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending

on this Thursday, June 12th. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves. Get your vaccines while you still can. Might not be long. Get your flu shots. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to y'all tomorrow.

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