The Daily Zeitgeist - Zeit Boy Rick 3/5: The Wire, Supreme Air Force 1, Art Van, The Last of Us

Episode Date: March 5, 2020

On this edition of Zeit Boy Rick Jack and Miles (and DJ Danl) discuss whether the Wire or Breaking Bad is better, Supreme is working with Nike on a new Air Force 1, Art Van is closing down, and a Last of Us show is in development.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all. And we are coming along for the ride. Woohoo! That would be me, Devon Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of the Challenge 40, Battle of the Eras.

Join us as we break down each episode, interview challengers, and take you behind the scenes of this iconic season. Listen to MTV's official challenge podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one game on their minds, Sword Quest. Because the company had promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists,

but the prizes disappeared, leading to one of the biggest controversies in 80s pop culture. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Renee Stubbs, and I'm obsessed with sports, especially tennis. Tune into my podcast each week to hear me and my friends in the community break down the latest matches, including the US Open. Plus hear from some of the biggest names in the sport about what the future holds. It's about belief, and once you break through that, then you know you can win a Grand Slam.

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Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Zeit Boy Rick, a play on the famous iconic film White Boy Rick that nobody saw. I'm Jack O'Brien. I'm an airplane. That's Miles Gray. Miles, you've been singing this Drake song for the past couple days. So is Drake about to have a renaissance? I don't know.

He put two good songs out in one video. Probably means he has some kind of album coming out, but you never know. It could be three just good songs or it could be straight magma magma we don't know what was the last no what was the last album by him that you thought was like a really great album that i fucked with probably nothing was the same yeah it was like

when i was really you didn't like if you're in this you're's too late? Well, that one, it had too many songs, and there was a lot of good shit on there. I just don't think, I always viewed that as him trying to get out of his deal. Like he just needed to get that album done. I did too, but it was so good. There was a lot of good shit on there. But hey, you know, what do I know? It was so good, man.

So good, bro. Let's talk about what's trending. A, The Wire is trending because people, somebody asked which is better the wire or Breaking Bad and I think the wire is trending because that's the answer in my opinion my humble opinion

I did not like how Breaking Bad ended I think it would have been a good ending if they had acknowledged that it was all in his head but oh you wanted it that's how you wanted Breaking Bad to end? I think that's what Gilligan intended the ending to be, that from the time he closes his eyes

as the police are closing in, and then he opens them and the keys come down, like just straight wish fulfillment. Everything plays out like walter would want it to everything around him just like completely goes his way um and i don't know it seemed like i i have a whole theory about how vince gilligan was like struggling to struggling to like control the show for creative control with Bryan Cranston, who fell in love with the character, and so he had to give him a heroic ending.

But the way he kind of threaded the needle was by making the ending something that happened in Walter's head, and he actually died ignominiously in that car as the cops were closing in, in the snow. But still, I think The Wire is better, even if that was the ending. I mean, I think The Sopranos, for me personally, need to be in this discussion as well. I think The Wire is better than Breaking Bad.

Yes. You think The Wire v. Sopranos is the real conversation? I don't even know if it is because they kind of do different things for me. Right. But I personally feel like The Sopranos is one of the greatest TV shows of all time. Yeah. I also believe The Wire is. I think The Wire is one of the greatest works of art.

American art. Take it up a step. Yeah. Okay. But I also, I think Sopranos is, I would say the same thing about Sopranos that you said about if you're reading this, it's too late, that it's just like they,

it seemed like they were spinning their wheels, just kind of playing out the clock on a couple episodes there at the end. Sure. But that happens to most shows anyway, not the wire. Well, some people, you know,

some people have their opinion. I didn't, I didn't like the newspaper part, but that was it. Um, but yeah, I think with, you know,

breaking bad V wire i i think the wire edges it out yeah yeah um supreme air force one yeah finally donald trump is gonna stun on all these fucking losers he's gonna make it a collaboration supreme air force one coming at you um actually no it's just a collab between n Nike and Supreme for the Air Force One sneaker. That, you know, a lot of the, most of these collabs these days with Supreme and Nike are simply just finding a way to put the box logo on a shoe. Right. And this is no different. And they've just done it with one of the more iconic sneakers.

And, you know, again. The all white Air Force One. All white, all black. I think they have a camo one. Or no, I think it's like olive green. I think there's also in canvas. There's a variety. But really, all it is is you get a little box logo tag on there. Like very little.

Just below the swoosh. Just below. Just so you know. Just so you can let people know, I paid more money for these than I should have. Right. Unless you're getting it for retail what is yeah that that seems wild that people are um paying a ton for this but well i mean this is just kind of where you know consumer hypebeast culture is at like it's acquire at all costs um i i mean i think that's a real quick race to the bottom for people. Yeah. I just get what the fuck is available.

Because I can't put the energy into like waiting in lines. I'm damn sure not going to use a bot to get something. Yeah. So. All you need to do is get like the Supreme Box logo iron on labels. Yeah, right. Just get a bunch of those. Put them on my own like fucking triple A plain white t-shirts.

I'm going to draw in red pen and just be done with it. Well, it's funny too because the hype around it has also helped launch other brands that are just basically parodying the Supreme brand. So, hey man, it's a whole ecosystem. It is a whole ecosystem. A whole damn ecosystem. Art Van is trending. Yeah.

That is a manufacturer outlet for furniture furniture in the midwest that's closing oh good so nothing happened to the art van no no what's the art van trending i don't know i just that's my new gut reaction whenever we do trends i'm like art van was probably a good person yeah uh and i'm guessing art van was probably a real person as well. But yeah, I guess we didn't realize what was going on with them, with their furnitures. And finally, Last of Us is trending. That is a video game, a zombie video game. Oh yeah, Jack, you know about Last of Us. Go on, go off.

Of course. Go off, PS King. I mean, of course, who can forget Last of Us? Exactly, go on go off of course go off ps king i mean of course who can forget last of us uh exactly zombie video game where um it's all you know zombie zombie wasteland it's all fun and games so it is one of the greatest video games of all time wow i think many people would say uh it for sure getting the thumbs up would say, uh, it for sure. And the thumbs up from super producer Daniel. It for sure challenged what people thought a video game was,

what it could be, how you play a game, what a narrative within a video game is. Right. It's one of the first times it was one of the first video games I had to put down because I'm like, this is kind of fucking me up. Right.

Like it's most games. You're like, yeah, fine. Fucking zombies. And there's guns. Great. I'm gonna go through and I'm fucking clap this is kind of fucking me up. Right. Like it's, most games you're like, yeah, fine. Fucking zombies and there's guns. Great. I'm gonna go through and I'm fucking clap everybody and stab, just button mash.

Right. This game was like, oh, you thought that's how this is going to play out. Right. It like forced you to like respect your limitations as a human being. Wow. And you're like play into your vulnerability

as a human being in a very unpredictable environment. And from that standpoint, it's definitely a transformative video game. Now, Dan, you can come in here too. We can share this mic because we love this game and we're trying to tell Jack how important it is. But to know that they're making a TV show based on this is good for many reasons. I agree. I want to back up that the narrative is so strong

and that in the video game world, this was one of those first games that made people treat video games with the respect of the capabilities of their storytelling. And just to nail home one of the facts that Miles is talking about, especially when it comes to the whole

button mashing whatever thing, you're lucky if you're walking around in this game and you find three bullets. Yeah. Three. Oh, wow. Straight up up your best weapon in this game is a brick uh-huh that's how you play this game is it just because the guns have all been used up all the ammo shit's scarce but it's just a different that's not the way the game is meant to you're not you're not a tough guy who can just absorb a bunch of fucking damage it's about like you're a person you're hanging by a fucking thread. I don't think you're going to be able to fight these guys that are sneak around because that's just the reality.

You're outmatched. So you have to like respect that. This is also really conveniently timed with the release of Last of Us Part 2, which is coming out shortly and is also kind of. and is also kind of in a similar way, pushing down some of the barriers of video game storytelling, showing one of the first lesbian relationships in a game. And it's, I mean, it's just incredibly progressive in so many different categories,

not just gameplay, but storytelling and all of that. So I think this is a really good, it's a good story to make a TV show out of. And yeah, on top of that, Craig Mazin from Chernobyl. Yeah, the creator of Chernobyl is making it. And the game's creator, Neil Druckmann, is also involved.

So there's like, okay, good. There's someone who knows how to do great TV, plus the person who understands what the game is about and what they want it to communicate. Yeah. So it'll be, I mean, this is exciting. Very exciting. I normally would be like, Oh cool.

HBO is making a video game show. Great. But like, this is, there's some depth. It seems like video game content has like jumped a level or something because, you know, the Sonic movie,

people were like, wait, this isn't terrible. What would happen? And it was a big hit and detective Pikachu. Like people seem to respect that as a as a movie and now they're like going full uh peak tv on on a video game so that's interesting um i'd be able to fill you in on that man yeah yeah i i'm excited now for this and people are throwing out names like Keanu for the

lead. Whoa. Okay. Or at least I saw his picture in a headline. Yeah. I mean, he looks good, sort of gaunt and sweating.

So that might be him. Little stub. Do you remember how well written Max Payne three was? I thought like Max Payne three was also well written. I'm just going on tangents. Cause like people are, people have also really you know for the last 8 years 10 years

have really been dialing in like what it means to even write a video game and what the story is versus like how are you gonna fuck up these non playable characters right well shit Miles it's been a pleasure talking to you today we will

remain in icy silence until we record again tomorrow I guess we should reveal to the public that our rule with each other is we only speak when the mics are on cause then it ain't making money baby that's right

our words have to be monetized or we just can't work up the courage the courage to talk to each other. All right. Love you guys. Have a great Thursday afternoon. Yes. And we'll be back tomorrow to close this week out.

Right. Yeah. Talk to you then. Bye. Bye. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all.

And we are coming along for the ride. Woohoo! That would be me, Devin Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of the Challenge 40, Battle of the Eras. Join us as we break down each episode, interview challengers, and take you behind the scenes of this iconic season. Listen to MTV's official challenge podcast on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Renee Stubbs, and I'm obsessed with sports, especially tennis. Tune into my podcast each week to hear me and my friends in the community break down the latest matches, including the US Open. Plus hear from some of the biggest names in the sport about what the future holds. It's about belief. And once you break through that, then you know you can win a Grand Slam. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast every Monday on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. In 1982, Atari players had one game on their minds, Sword Quest, because the company had

promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared, leading to one of the biggest controversies in 80s pop culture. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, fam, I'm Simone Boyce.

I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the podcast from Hello Sunshine that's guaranteed to light up your day. Check out our recent episode with dancer, actress, and host of Dancing with the Stars, Julianne Hough, revealing the healing journey behind her new novel, Everything We Never Knew.

I am showing up for my younger self and it is becoming a ripple effect energetically in my life and that's why I feel so safe now. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.