The Daily Zeitgeist - Zeit Risk T****Twister 3/3: Zelenskyy, Trump, JD Vance, Academy Awards

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

In this edition of Zeit Risk T****Twister, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, Zelenskyy's tense meeting with Trump and Vance, JD Vance's ski vacation, the Academy Awards and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I mean, it's funny just you showing me that clip. I'm kind of wanted no more But I also feel like I saw the best part like you just know there's there's more but the thing about flight risk is it's a lean 90 and Oh, yeah, that is wise by Pardon me. Pardon like 20 minutes Yeah, anything where I'm like, oh an hour 30? OK, I can do this. Like I rarely shut off a 90 minute movie. No, no, no. That's why I like I watch like Hallmark Christmas movies

because they're like an hour and 15. So it's too short and it's too dumb to be like too offended by it. Right. I did not know that it was a screwball. Like, I guess I kind of had the sense that it was a slapstick comedy from his hair falling off. But like the way his hair trailers pitched it was, yeah, that it was just a thing like that. That it was a thriller and it's straight up a do just style violence comedy. I did not think there would be a titty twister. The titty twister killed me.

I can't believe, in the year of our lord, whatever world we are in now that we're doing fucking, all right, titty twister. As he reveals that he doesn't get paid to be a hitman, he just does it for free, for the free opportunity to give people titty twisters. And I'm wondering if that line was. I can't tell if that was improv. I can't tell if the tennis was still I was in. Hey, you want a little pity twister?

Can you imagine it's in the script? It's hard for me to imagine that being in a script. It's so stupid. All right. Yes. Any twister? Yeah, I didn't see it come up during the I didn't see it come up during the during the flight risk best original screenplay montage. Like they didn't show that part. So it was hard to tell. I can't picture that in a table read at all.

Hello the internet and welcome to this Monday morning week trend edition of DER DELI ZEIT GUYS! Yes! Yes! Oh yes! Or DAH or DAH! DAH DAH! Yes, because we are, I don't know if you saw this thing at the Kremlin News, like now

that Russia and the United States foreign policy goals have aligned aligned and I'm like wow what a way to put that Yeah, okay. Anyway, uh, just Gravitationally just happened as a matter of course. There is nothing awkward or pushy happening Yeah, no, I'm times a weird clock is right, you know No weird jerking of the steering wheel to one side that doesn't really make sense for any reason that anybody can tell. I think it's like, yeah, Republicans would be like, well, you know, broken clocks, right? Twice a day. That's kind of the overlap you're seeing versus now. It's like, no, the watch is set to the exact same time. Right. Like at the every, it's actually the same. It's, they're, they're

not broken. They are. They actually don't need watches because he just tells us what time it is. Yeah. We just call him and he tells like metaphorically. He's like, oh, what's up, homie? You know what time it is to like, I Vladimir. I do. Yes, he does. Putin does say that all the time. What's up, homie?

You know what time it is. You know what time it is. My name is Jack. That over there is miles. And this is the episode where we tell you all the things that were trending from Friday through Monday morning. Um, and, but first we like to get to know you a little bit better. Uh, let you get to know us a little bit better by telling you stuff we

think is underrated stuff we think is overrated. We like to ask our guests throughout the week, what they think's underrated, overrated is where we get a chance. No one asks. Yeah. Um, yeah. And to. And you know what? I'm just gonna go through all the overrated and underrated from our guests from the past week and talk about why they're wrong. No. Miles, what is something you think is underrated? Oh, man. A couple things. First one, pretty obvious, the but not price gouging. Pretty I think a pretty solid business model or just, you know, for we live like in a time where everyone's like,

what a consumer goodwill. What do we have consumer confidence? Yes. Stop just fucking overcharging people. I say this because I went to this Japanese market in L.A. I bought a dozen organic eggs. You know LA. I bought a dozen organic eggs. You know how much I got a dozen organic eggs for? At least $45. 5.99.

What? $5.99 is what I walked out of this Japanese market. It's just weird because you're telling a story like it just happened and not like it happened in 1997. Yeah, when I was 12 years old, when I was 17, I couldn't, I thought I was fucking stealing something. When I saw that, I was like, nah bro, did they, did they fucking fuck up their handwriting?

And then I asked one of the people I said, it's five 99. They're like, yeah, just, just, uh, you can only take up the hand. I was so fucked up. Like, you you know like you're just so conditioned as a consumed like yeah They're fucking me again. Yeah that you see it, and then you're like I'm not being fucked or I'm being fucked gently yeah, I don't know So anyway that was such a thing and then like I told everybody like you need to get down to the Nijia market over here I saw tell bro. They got fucking they got the shifts for 599 So that was fantastic. The other thing I'll say underrated a petty knife petty knife is a small sort of like Small knife you'd use much smaller than like

Yeah, it's like a paring knife. Basically, it's like a utility knife but it so I recently my cousin got back from Japan and you know My house burned down so I lost I lost all my knives And I had a kid I had a couple of Japanese comes after last month. I was very like Very connected to he he like replaced all my knives for me. It was very wild very sweet And but I got like a new petty knife. This shit is so fucking sharp That I'm like use I'm like using it more than like my traditional kitchen knife because it just you get such control with it I'm peeling fucking fruit for the guys child. I'm peeling fuck everything. I'm cutting cheese. I'm

deboning fucking chicken Anyway, it's very nice. I think all that to say it's probably just a sharp ass knife really is the best thing. But a petty knife is great because it's easy to control. Small, sharp, small, sharp, best cheese knife you could use. It's just so fucking solid. So, you know, I just want to say people at the very least. How small we talking on that blade like finger?

We talking like four and like finger we talking like For like five inches five inches. Yeah, it's not like a box cutter No, no, but it's enough that it's like if you someone said hey, I'm gonna chop this like cabbage up You like what this fucking tiny thing like no, but if you're like, hey, I'm gonna slice a tomato or whatever cut stuff up smaller Perfect. Perfect. Yes. Okay. Got it I'm gonna slice a tomato or whatever cut stuff up smaller perfect perfect. Yeah, okay Got it. I'm just picturing John Boyd's character from Anaconda coming in be like I'll cut you up real nice Thanks, don't but they don't they don't buy Because he's doing yeah, it's John yeah, you're doing a white guy doing doing we don't even know a gun roll

Yeah, you're doing a white guy doing doing you don't even know what I got on rule. Yeah. Yeah, exactly I can do right a gun. We have these specific white people that act as conduits to do a problematic Without being problematic. Yeah, that's right All right My underrated is wind Just by me I've never once Check checked the weather report for wind and then it just well first of all it did just burn down entire chunks of Los Angeles

earlier this year I don't know if you heard about that miles while you were out for some reason I don't know what you were up to bro crazy news story but and then even then like people had a hard time blaming the wind like Henry Winkler and Whitney Cummings had to make up an arsonist oh my god the wind I just think I was out of Whitney Cummings anyway but god damn damn Fonzie. Unbelievable. I read for you. I know we're all for you Fonzie Hopefully he comes back. Hopefully he's like sorry guys. Uh, that one got away from me That's what that's what millions do to you Yeah, it's just like, you know, he's with a bunch of people in the Palisades probably who lost their you know

five million dollar homes and is who lost their, you know, $5 million homes and is, uh, they have theories. I lost my only home in the Palisades. I have five in the state, but Palisades homes. I lost my Palisades home. Um, but yeah, I don't know. I think it's like, but I think I suffer from the same thing where wind is just hard for me to plan for. I'm just like never expecting.

I'm never checking for it. Suddenly the air is like 20 degrees colder than I was expecting it to be. My kids are shivering. My hat is flying away. Your toupee is blowing off like Mark Wallberg. It always blows away, which is kind of fun. Yeah, I do like the comedic. Yeah. Chasing after it down the street.

Also, I'm going to say, I don't know, I'm assuming it's hard to add like fake wind in a movie. Maybe not. But like, I feel like it should be used more often. It's a great atmospheric. Like movies love to use the rain to set a mood. But but like there's this movie vulvaire that I think is one that Pinal atmospheric like movies love to use the rain to set a mood, but but like there's this movie volvair that I think it's one that Penelope Cruz won an Oscar for but it like takes place in a Constantly windy town and it like just has these like poetic Meditations on like the wind like legends that like the wind drives you mad when you live there And there's just this like constant sound and movement and it's just like a

constant ghost howling down the streets of your town. Yeah. And then, uh, and yeah, then it just starts, it causes things to just start flying around that never flew around before. Uh, it's like someone just comes along and shakes your city like a snow globe. And then you get to like pick everything up. Did you feel an earthquake last night? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Speaking of getting shook and like a fucking snow globe.

So you had one big shake. It was like it dropped. It was one of those droppers where you're like, yeah, and then a little rocking the epicenter, North Hollywood, California, baby. Is this yeah. Coming for you, baby. Jesus. Yeah. Coming for you, man. I know, part of me was like, what the fuck? Leave me alone.

Yeah. Leave me alone. Leave me alone. Miles, what something you think is overrated? Overrated, this ties into the Oscars, but the old way of presenting awards, traditional awards show presentation like when presenters go up to give out the award I this is like one thing that I

really liked about the Oscars was the way they like personalized the presenters connections to the nominees was like yeah with Robert Downey Jr. yeah or just like even like the costume when like it was time for costume design each person that was in the film sort of like was giving their flowers to the person that like designed the costumes or like other people just giving it up to like other direct, you know, like it was just, it felt like so much better

than just sort of like the art of editing is known as a block. And like there still was some of that, but to have like then sort of couple that with people saying like, I was so great to but to have like then sort of couple that with people saying like I was so Great to work with you like your dedication It just gives it a nice personal touch that it feels almost like oh shit like yeah cool Like you're it's nice to see other people acknowledge their contribution even before an award is given

I think that was just a very nice touch to it because it almost came off genuine. And I think that was- Came off like they're people. Celebrities, they're people too. Yeah, so I was like, okay, cool. This made it a little more interesting because you're just kind of, you kind of build the skill of tuning out

like this sort of very dry boilerplate kind of like, and now to give the award, here are the nominees part. You're just kind kind of like you just basically black out until they open the envelope to announce it, right? Whereas this one gave you a little bit more of a reason to listen. So I Good nice touch. I'll give you that. Yeah, and then the ones that weren't that I felt like Was like I can't read the prompter. Oh, yeah well like it was great when it's like and now Andrew Garfield will go up to, like, just give his flowers to a sort of confused Goldie Hawn, who wasn't sure that this was like her moment. She was she was like being so humble. She was like, oh, thank you, honey. Well, let's keep this movie.

He's like, no, no, I have more. Yeah. Yeah. And she was like, oh, OK. Again, like, I felt like that was the overall theme that was like emphasizing the humanity of people like, hey, we're people. You know, my mom loved you. She was you were an important part of her. My mom, my mom was really into you because, you know, old. And I was I know you love hearing stuff like that.

The whole Goldie Haan thing made me think about how like I used to just watch like all these like retrospective TV shows. Like I remember I knew Goldie Hawn was in movies and then I like as a 12 year old found out about laughing and like she had this whole comedic career. And she's like held up as a great comedic performer that I was just like, I don't know. I mean, I know from like Bird on a wire or like whatever movie she was in in the 80s, like stuff like that. Yeah. But then what was the thing Nixon said on laughing? Like I was just trying to remember, like I was like,

I know there's a famous like Nixon line in laughing where they had Nixon as a guest on laughing. Yeah. Yeah. Like Lauren Michael, yes. Socket to me. That's what it was. Socket to me. And again, this is a product of me watching like weird VH1 shows that it then made me think, are younger people going to give a fuck about like shit that we remember from the 90s and 80s? The way somehow I'm like, yeah, laughing.

Remember that Nixon moment from laughing in the 60s or 70s? I don't feel like I knew that laughing existed for most of my life. Like I was not watching the retrospectives. I did not know that Goldie Hawn was like, you know, a young ingenue on this. Like basically it was like another SNL, SNL competitor that she was like the star of the breakout star of and then like went and started to be in movies and immediately like got nominated or won an Oscar within

like a couple years and a couple of movie roles. But yeah, I'm actually reading this Lauren Michaels biography and it's like interesting like talks about that that early stuff and those early times. And a lot of the shit is not that funny in the early days but comes around, I'm assuming. All right, sticking with the Oscars, my overrated, I would say is like, all right, did you watch Kieran Culkin's acceptance speech?

I was in the room when it happened and then I just wasn't interested in what he was saying. So I know you had mentioned something earlier. And I was like, what did you say? What happened? Yeah. So I think like I find him charming. Like you, he's like, you want to love him and hate him. Like it's the whole thing with his character on succession. Yeah. But then like he hates himself already.

So he's sort of just being like, ah, well he took care of that part. So I just like him hates himself already. So you sort of just being like, Oh, well, he took care of that part. So I just like him, I guess. So he got up, gave a speech and then like at the end was like, all right, so there's my wife jazz. Uh, and like, I told her if I want an Emmy, she would give me a third baby and I want to end me. And she was like, no, I'm not going to do that. But if you win an Oscar, I'll give you a fourth.

And he was like, well, now I won an Oscar. So let's let's get to fucking essentially. And I I get that it was like tongue in cheek. And he may not be expecting her to have a baby. But the people who meet her for the first time for the next 10 years of her life are sure going to be asking about it. And it just, you know, what made you guys on you owe him, right? Just a weird, and it also just felt like a weird, like trad wife as childbearing reward

figure. Yeah, sure. For like man doing good job at work paradigm. It just felt felt a little like, I don't know, a handmaid's tail style birthing contract. Yeah, not that like that's the energy he was giving and people like people seem to be like this was one of the highlights. It was like such a cute human moment, but it just felt it's like even as like a joke to be like you owe me.

You owe me a child me It's like what do you fuck? What do you like? Richard what the fuck is this shit? But we owe me a where where are my heirs? Yeah, I get maybe being like but he doesn't mean it So it's fine. I'm like, okay It's kind of like the same way like the office was getting away with like racist jokes by being like well, he's dumb So it's like why that bad? Okay, we're making we're laughing at it But as people gain a little more perspective like no, it's like the funniest fucking thing, right?

Right, whatever, you know, I hope I hope he has a contract. This is why you can't just be out here making Fucking agreements based on how many awards you win. You should, if you're serious. Yeah, you need a birth and contract with your significant other. Lock that shit in. I've been saying that from day one. Exactly. Under penalty of death.

After watching some of those Steven Crowder household ring videos, I realized that you need to get your shit locked up. That's where it's like you're flying too close to gross real shit, I think is the thing. Right. But whatever. I mean, it's funny because as you said that, the thing I was focused on the whole time was Jeremy Strong. I was like, yo, this motherfucker's probably dying inside. And I remember right after they cut away from Kieran Coulkin leaving the stage, they showed Jeremy Strong. And it was funny, dad was that was over too we were watching and we

both went oh and then Hermes he's like what we're like yo Jeremy Strong look fucking upset and I rewound it and Rose like he just looks like he's like looking off I'm like no no you can see the hurt in his eyes he's he look he is still processing that loss But I think that's just me projecting more shit onto Jeremy strong than I probably should have yeah There's also the songwriter who has been nominated like so many times Diane Warren. I think Is that's not her name Diane Warren Is it it's dying? Oh, yeah. Yeah, she she had a tough like

accepting that she lost face Experience that got you got a feel for him. Oh, did she tough gig just like You can kind of like no no like over like what the fuck face right? Like just you can kind of see the blood drain from her face a little bit damn yeah hey shout out to her she's from the valley there you go all right let's take a quick break we'll come back and we'll we'll talk about that Trump Zelinsky meeting the that happened the end of last week right after we recorded our last episode yeah well we'll be right back. and I know a lot of people are gonna attack me. Why are you gonna go visit your dad? Your mom wouldn't be okay with it. I'm gonna tell you guys right now, I know my mother.

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And we're back. We're back. And we're back We're back We're back So I mean, yeah Trump Zelensky, JD Vance, the Vance dance, Marjorie Taylor Green's boyfriend, Marjorie Taylor Green's boyfriend, all ganged up on wartime president, Voldemort Zelensky Is that how you pronounce his name? Vladimir. You better say Voldemort. Voldemort Zelensky.

But basically it was, you know, Zelensky came in, the press was set up and it felt like it was, it was a setup, you know? Oh yeah. They, uh, Trump and Vance were just like waiting for him to say anything that they could just jump on. Zelensky obviously was pushing back on their narrative that like the whole war was his fault and that Russia is good and can be trusted. Hold on, they invaded, they, Russia invaded Ukraine. You sound like you should be more grateful is what I'm hearing. I like a Henley in here full like why aren't you wearing like a suit, bro? What's up? You look really like district like fucking.

They really like Trump did mention at the beginning, they like were nagging him from the beginning. They're like, ah, thank you for getting dressed up for the occasion. Uh, moving along. But then he said, I think he's dressed beautifully. You look like shit. No, no, you're great. It's great. You're beautiful.

But the other comment, like kind of dashed off comment at the end was where he was like closing the thing and he was like, I'm assuming this was really good television, which is just like that is his instinct. Like anybody who's like, he's got a great instinct for like deal making and negotiating. And no, he doesn't. So I think his instinct is for reality television and like creating moments that are going to make for good TV that he would want to watch to get a little youth to active use some youth Vernacular some Gen Z vernacular. He is a master of crashing out, you know, I mean He is that master of the crash out to make very entertaining Like public crash outs

That's what in that cuz that's what that was to see this weird Like the bully and then the bullies weird little friend who JD Vance was like, yeah Get him. Yeah, get him. Get him, Donald. Like that weird dynamic and Zelinski's in there basically being like, so I'm fighting off an invading army. You motherfuckers said you were going to give me security assurances. Now you're trying to get me to sign some fucking weird ass minerals deal with no security, no fucking security assurances.

What the fuck do what do I look like signing this shit right now? Yeah. And what, who the fuck do you think you guys are thinking you can put this shit in front of me and think I'm like, oh my God, I love it. Thank you so much. They're like fighting for their fucking existence. And this is what's happening. I can't like it was very it was so hard to watch because you're like, holy shit.

Just like America completely becoming like this other thing now, Like it was very, it was so hard to watch because you're like, holy shit, just like America completely becoming like this other thing now, just before everyone's eyes trying to be like, you better watch out. Like when it got to the point, it's like, you gotta know your, you don't have a good hand. You don't have good cards. You gotta know your hand. You've got bad cards, Moochato.

He's like, I'm not playing a game, motherfucker. What are you talking about? He's like, you know what? You're risking World War III. You're risking World War III. Like he just kept escalating rhetorically again because he just wants to have, it's just became this scene, this like circus on the way. And it's just, the whole thing was just very,

very difficult to watch. And then the internet with like, you know, the speed of light just started making all these fucking memes. You see the ones where they were playing like a Stratego or like whatever that other or risk or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It was just like, ha ha ha ha ha ha.

But no, it is. It is kind of what's happening here. Yeah. But no it is It is kind of what's happening here Also like for all the like Trump supposedly being a populist the popular opinion of Putin is pretty fucking unfavorable like that seems to be one place where they're real comfortable

stepping out of line with like popular opinion 90% of Americans at least in 2023 thought he was extremely untrustworthy. Yeah. Specifically, there's like a poll that says that. And I don't, yeah, so I don't know.

It's not like this is coming from some popular groundswell, as with like all of his policies. It's coming from somewhere else, I guess. Yeah, it's coming from Vladimir fucking Putin, dude. Right. Like, it's so obvious that at this point it's like the fucking news really needs to fucking wake the fuck up and stop being like, that was the other big takeaways. They were like, uh, you know, Zelinsky lost his cool and like that he really fucked himself there.

And, um, not, yeah, just being like, and like, I also saw people being like, and obviously Trump is doing this because he thinks that Russia will be a good ally against China and like making kind of what rationalizations. Yeah. They rationalizations that don't really make sense for his behavior. Well, they try and do the thing rather than like be a little bit. Giving people context about how this completely goes against the order of things or whatever. They try and do this thing where it's like trying to understand where he's coming from with all this,

even if it makes no fucking sense. And they don't even say like, but that doesn't make any fucking sense because X, Y and Z. They don't do that shit. They're just like this. I think this is what he's thinking to again pretend like they're doing journalism, but also just zero pushback in manufacturing consent. like this, I think this is what he's thinking to again, pretend like they're doing journalism, but also just zero pushback and manufacturing consent. And again, this whole meeting was supposed to be around this fucking deal that was going to be made.

The deal in this instance was Ukraine would allow for like $500 billion in rare earth metals to be extracted where they get like a measly cut of profits in exchange again for no fucking security Assurances and no not even a commitment to having a ceasefire just run of that It's like give me that and you'll be okay how and again this deal of course was untenable for Zelinsky because he wants fucking security assurances because he's fighting an invading army and the deal is assurances because he's fighting an invading army. And the deal is so unrealistic for two really big points. A right.

We haven't the 500 billion thing. It's supposed to be like to repay all the stuff we've given you. We haven't even given them close to 500 billion worth of arms. Not even close. We're not even the biggest like supporter of their military effort. Like they're, they're Western European countries that have supported the more the fact is we just dusted off Some old shit that we had just old killing toys and we say oh, yeah Y'all could have them and that 500 that amount that we say we're sending no That's for us to buy shiny new fucking kill toys. That's not because I here's the money

We're like, oh, yeah, you could have that you could have that. You know what? I'm gonna replace, I'm gonna replace that high Mars system anyway, with some news. There's some new shit out. I really want that. So yeah, y'all could take that. That's how the, like this transaction is working. So it's not like we're there on the hook for a half trillion dollars. Then would the rare earth metals part, we don't even know if there's enough rare earth metals in the ground in Ukraine, that would even total $500 billion.

Like that amount even baffles the commodities and geology expert community who know about, like they're like, what is he, like they're even from that perspective, what is he talking about? This is a write-up from like a commodities newsletter. First of all, it says, most estimates for 2024 stand at 4 billion to 12 and a half billion

globally in terms of sales of rare metals. The global market at the low end is 4, at the high end 12 and a half. So it said it would therefore be astonishing for Ukraine to conjure up $500 billion worth. $500 billion. How? Then this other thing, this is again from the same article. It is also notable that even during the most recent rare earth metal price boom, which ran from late 2020 to March of 2022 and saw exploration companies enthusiastically snap up and try to develop new supply sources around the world. No one made a play for Ukraine. Right. That's even predating the war. Right. Like there's just not, it's just not something that's on the radar. So, I think again, Trump goes on to be like, well, it's a great deal,

because his logic here is that all the American commercial mining companies that would be in Ukraine would act as a deterrent, because Russia wouldn't dare attack and risk harming Americans in Ukraine and risking war. It's like, bro, they're not going to attack because they got what they wanted through this dumb fucking deal. It's not because of the presence of it. Like the America is not going to do shit. So stop pretending that that's the position America is going to take. And it just feels like terrible negotiating and like bad fascist improv. Like clearly Trump was

told by Putin, just fucking make Zelensky go away and make them weaker so I can take my depleted army back home and like we can have some kind of a win here and To achieve the alienation of Zelensky Trump goes for this weird ass minerals deal that makes no sense and just ends up having the effect of Strengthening European alliances because after that they're like, oh shit. Yeah, you know Zelensky went to the UK and starmers like bro We got it. We're going to have to figure out how to do this shit without the crash out crew

in D.C. and Trump can't just announce, OK, bye bye, Ukraine, because he needs the pretext no matter how flimsy to not look like a Russian asset. So his idea to create this pretext is just like this untenable deal. So then he can be like, well, I tried to help him, but he just wouldn't take the deal. Right. So therefore, I knew it seems like they're like really just going along with that. Yeah.

So again, if like, if the improv suggestion from Putin to Trump is this scene is about cut ties with Zelinsky, then Trump just started the improv scene by saying, let me have sex with all of your ghosts or else And I'm right. What the fuck? Huh, but yeah, like you say Washington Post RIP fully to that fucking place with these op-eds. They're putting out now. It's like Absurd. Yeah, they just put out an op-ed Zelensky must mend the breach with Trump or resign from Mark A. Theusen, which I don't

know, is that like an anagram for Lindsey Graham? Or is that? But yeah, this should have been a back slapping feel good meeting celebrating the minerals deal. Unfortunately, it was a terrible deal for Zelensky. So he was not feeling good for some reason. It was a knee slapper because it was so fucking absurd of a deal. Not a back slapper because we're going to feel good.

Yeah, it just says go like the this whole like Mark Thiessen, I think, is a Bush. I think a speechwriter or something. He's from the Bush era. But like even him trying to act like this is good. It's just so disorienting. Yeah, anyway, the billionaire capture of our media has just led to a fun toilet bowl ride down to hell for everyone. Yeah, it's really wild. As far as what people think, like I mentioned, there's been polling that suggests that, you know, 90% of Americans for some reason find Vladimir Putin untrustworthy.

I don't know what their deal is, must be hangover from the Cold War. Just some other evidence that this is not a popular position. So right after this, where JD Vance was kind of the instigator, he was like the first person you did but first of all you should thank our president and wash his feet with your hair Okay That's his thing. He give him gold gifts of gold and you know, he's not that into frankincense or more But he was he was so annoyed that You know at Zelinsky and you know Uh, you know, at Zelinsky and, you know, putting up big, uh,

big Dick energy in the room. And then he, uh, Johnson off to a ski vacation with his family in Vermont. And it did not go well. No hundreds of protesters showed up to line the streets. Um, some with some pretty devastating signage, such as Vance skis and jeans. Ooh, the worst thing you can do. I mean I play pickup ball in jean shorts but that's just me. I guess you're not supposed to ski in jeans. But it's because you want to show off your legs. I gotta show off them.

You just say they look better in cutoffs. Exactly. Show off the thighs, baby. But they he even got hassled as he was skiing, as if it were some common visiting dignitary. He had to be moved to an undisclosed location, but one person nearly took him out, but like almost ran into him on the slopes. And another one called him Putin's puppet on the mountain. Yeah, so great. It looked like I saw clips on Reddit of like just like the clusterfuck. It looked like having just secret service and him skiing and like other people like what like hating this guy.

It just felt like a fucking nightmare. But I just love how, again, like like Fox and Friends the media comes to his defense and they're like bro they should not be they should leave him alone you know they should just like he's with his family quote I think your family should be off limits says the lady from real world from fucking 40 years ago. Thanks. Also, skiing vacations are where like billionaire power broker like clash with the blue collar ski workers and the like townies. That's if 80s, what do they think about us anything? This is exactly where this should be happening. Yeah, I'm surprised JD Vance is so like into that kind of media would know.

Like the last place I need to go is a ski resort. Yeah, they're going to prank me. I mean, there were the strikes earlier this year. So it's a hotbed of class tension. So, yeah, shit. Perfect place for him to go immediately after, you know, pissing off the American people with a wildly unpopular take. What's always there is I always see these like sort of screen caps of like comment sections

and half seem real. The other half seem like bots. But there are like definitely a group of confused boomer conservatives who are like, no, I'm pretty sure I was raised to hate everything Russian from birth is What is this and I don't understand what what we get out of it. It's like, yeah Yeah, it's kind of hard to get you know explain it. Yeah. Yeah for sure Also, there was a blind item that suggested that Again, you know blind item note no way to corroborate this as of yet.

Similar to the couch fucking it just fits, you know, just fits his personality, his energy, his aura. What he tried to fuck a chairlift. He tried to fuck it. No. Somebody said I skied at sugar bush in Vermont today. Guess who was here? None other than our esteemed vice president, JD Vance.

Half of central Vermont was out in the streets protesting him It was hilarious. The loser couldn't even get off the chair lift He went around the bowl wheel and they had to shut it down so Secret Service could get him off the chair I'm not kidding true story fucking Jerry of the day Don't even know what Jerry means that's like that's like a pejorative nickname for people who don't belong. Yeah, who aren't like real skiers, like they wear jeans and ski. There's a very big Instagram account that just shows like ski fails like that. I think it's called Jerry of the Day.

But honestly, misinformation about JD Vance is the most harmless misinformation ever. So yeah, I think we need to add to that. It's because he tried to have sex with he was trying to fuck the chair left Yeah, he was going up. It is very couch Adjacent, you know, it's a they call it a chairlift, but it's more like a metal couch. Yeah three across, you know, yeah All right. Let's uh, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk anything we missed on the Oscars up top We'll come back. We'll talk anything we missed on the Oscars up top. We'll be right back.

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I mean, it like it's a good point that the Ukraine war effort, Ukrainian war effort was like extremely popular for probably like it goes with the grain of white supremacy in America You know, it's like white people being like those people look just like me like that's so yeah It's it'll be interesting to see how Trump supporters respond to this whole thing going going sideways. Hmm. Yeah this whole thing going sideways. Although, it is what a lot of the shit he does is like, it is what the Democratic Party has been doing and just all American policy has been doing.

He just does it like real openly and stupidly. Yeah, well, because I think there's, most Americans are kind of deluded into thinking we're still trying to do good. Right. Whereas Tom's like, bro of diluted into thinking we're still trying to do good. Right. Where it sounds like, well, we we're not trying to do shit, bro. What are you talking about? And it was like, oh, right. And I mean, not to say that, like, like, get real, everyone, it's been this bad forever.

But like, that's sort of like the difference is sort of not even trying to hide the self-dealing, not even trying to play politics in any in any way. Guys, just hide the self-dealing. Not even trying to play politics in any way. Guys, just hide the self-dealing a little bit. Right. And we'll go along with anything. All right, Oscars, watched them out of one eye while doing other stuff, but a lot of stuff happened. Yeah, my eyes are fucked now.

Just watching that Sixers win over the Warriors on loop. Oh my God, man. Just just when I want they lost like 10 in a row, shut down and be for the year. Nine, nine in a row, shut down and beat for the year. It's time. It's losing time, baby. It's time to lose the rest of our games. And just, you know, shut it down. Try and get the best draft pick we can. And the 76ers of course win just when they need to start focusing on losing. Weird, weird league fans who people who aren't fans of the NBA are probably like, what are well adjusted?

Do you want your team? Yeah. We're well adjusted. Or me. Like, I went to, I went like, I don't care about nothing. And now I'm like, yeah, bro, we're winning the fucking championship this year. Yeah. Just fucking like, I don't care how many people get injured. No, we're not. But anyway, I went to I went like I don't care about nothing and now I'm like, yeah, bro We're winning the fucking championship this year. Yeah, just fucking you might be I don't care how many people get injured No, we're not but anyway, I want to see I did feel like a winner though because I Famously only saw one movie that was in contention for awards and guess what it was fucking anora

So I felt like so in tune with the award. I was like could tell I didn't know I thought the I didn't know, I thought the, I didn't know the Brutalist was about Brutalist architecture. You thought it was just about a guy who was mean. Bro, I just thought. Bad personality. I didn't read a single word. I saw like an emaciated Adrian Brody.

I said, I don't know, but it was some sad Eastern European shit. I don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Like this is kind of where I went with it. But yeah, when was the last time a fucking guy? What's the guy's name Dave Foster? What's his name Dave? Foster John Baker Sean Fucking composer The that cuz he went best screenplay editing director best picture

He he he sort of won four out of the five awards that they won that night, single-handedly, not single-handedly, actually with the other producers. He won the four big ones that he was nominated for. It's never really happened before. Disney has won more Oscars in a single year, but that was, it wasn't like best picture, best director, best screenplay, best editing. That that seems wild to get screenplay editor director like on the individual merits. I was like that's pretty

Impressive. I mean they made a point of emphasizing this when they won But like this movie had a budget of six million dollars Like it was a pretty small like that's how you get somebody who's like doing all those things, I think, largely. Although I think I think Christopher Nolan also like does a lot of the shit but yeah, you're sure. Sure. Yeah. Soda Berg, I think is kind of like that. But I had a budget of six million dollars for the last five winners had like really low budgets, Nomadland, Coda, everything everywhere all at once. Now, an aura that's like 80% of the last five years, best picture winners. Obviously, Oppenheimer was a huge movie that destroyed last year's Oscars.

But I don't know, we talked about this as like Hollywood and corporate thinking, Netflix, COVID, a lot of different things like kind of conspired to fuck up studio movies. And like, we were like, there's probably a new wave of like, independent movies coming. And that at least seems to be happening. If you if you look at like, who's who's winning Best Picture? Well, that's where like, you'd hope the corporate thinking goes, hold on, dude, like these like weird stories. And and I call them weird because they're not based on IP that we own Right like weird little stories are coming up people like those better So I guess maybe we just do more of those and they're cheaper. So maybe we just make a fuck ton of these

Oh, yeah, maybe not I don't know the only real IP movies that were like close to winning were obviously Dune Wicked and then Conclave which which optioned the Pope cinematic universe. Demi Moore did not win, was expected to win, I think was like one of the biggest favorites heading in to the night. Like that category was basically seen as a, as a lock. Damn. She looked a little crestfallen when they showed after like Mikey Madison had accepted also from the valley. Shout out Mikey Madison.

Shout out the valley. The valley is just the source of all. We're just the people on the fucking fringe, bro. We're not the fucking West side, but guess what? We're out here. I remember her majesty was like, is that her boyfriend? I was like, no, that's shit. He, they look related.

And then when she got her speech, the redhead dude she was with. Yeah. And she's like my twin brother, miles. I was like, see, that's shit. They look related. And then when she got her speech, the redhead dude she was with, yeah. And she's like, my twin brother, Miles. I was like, see, they're related. There you go. Yeah, that was cute. She has a twin brother.

She's like, you're my best friend, not that you have a choice. That acceptance speech was really interesting. I've only know Mikey Madison through her performances to see how different obviously like she wasn't even on Nora when she went up there but like you got a real taste for you know she's an actor we got a real taste for like her actual character and I'm like damn she was spitting like as a Nora because she was truly like there

is a just a teenager when she went up there. She's like, oh my god, this is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. She just seemed really young and Anyway, why did you and Brody baby? best actor for a second time People noted that as he was taking the stage She took his gum out of his mouth and threw it at his partner to his partner Some would say Georgina Chapman wait he did all is that what's going on? I was like, what the fuck? You have like a Lippor in or something. Do way better. Yeah. Like in school. It's not even like a fucking pouch. Just loose shoes. All right. Put that in my Gatorade bottle under my seat.

You could have just spit it into your Gatorade bottle. I don't want them to see I spit into a Gatorade bottle. Okay. It's embarrassing and they can see all the spit. It's the clear bottle. Okay. Good for him. His partner is he shout out his partner and her kids who are now I guess his stepkids. His partner is Harvey Weinstein's ex wife.

So like those he's shouting out like Harvey Weinstein's children from the stage, which. And just OK, Russell Wilson, a piece of interesting piece of context. Yeah. Yeah. All right. J.M. said so no matter how much gum he throws at her, Adrian Brody will never be her shittiest romantic partner.

They we talked about. I'm surprising to have a shirt is like I'm not the stepfather The father that stepped up. That's right. How you like that Harvey and then it's like yo wait, don't shut him out. Okay, that's right So I just going along with the like indie element of the whole thing the movie flow one for best animated feature against Inside Out 2, I think was nominated and the good robot, Wild Robot, which was also nominated. I really liked Wild Robot. I thought that was good. I haven't seen Flow, but JM was pointing out that it is like another example of like independent.

It was made for three point seven million dollars by a Latvian director using free open source animation software that basically anyone can use on a lot. Yeah. Well, inside out to cost two hundred million dollars to make. So yeah. So your movie sucks. Okay. Fuck.

Yeah. Wow. Three point seven million is that's pretty remarkable. Okay. Fuck. Yeah. Wow. 3.7 million is that's pretty remarkable. That's wild. Yeah. Good for that. Yo, so when no other land won for a feature documentary, and we talked on the show about how they were still I'm pretty, I feel I don't know if anything's changed, but up till the awards, they had not secured any American distribution for this documentary. That's talking about what's happening in the occupied West Bank. My fucking stepmom sat on the remote inadvertently and muted the TV, but we didn't realize.

You thought they were cutting their mic? Yeah. I said, and I went up there and go, what the fuck is going on? And everyone's like, there's no sound. Wow. I'm like, what the fuck? going on? And everyone's like, there's no sound. Wow. I'm like, what the fuck, wait, what? I'm like, hell no, hell no.

I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. And then she's like, oh wait, hold on, the remote is here. And then I hit the mute button and it came back on. I was like, oh, for a second, I was like, bro, I was not ready to fucking fully go cross the Rubicon into like, and now you will not hear anything that goes against the wills of the American empire. But yeah, that was also, yeah, it was wild to have

like that moment be where you could hear some of the real as shit being talked, because from what I saw, like none of the people that won for Amelia Perez ever like mentioned with the trans community, like in their acceptance speeches. Yeah, I don't know if they did. We're at a pretty critical juncture here in being able to stand up for marginalized people.

But yeah, that was a big speech. Yeah, they specifically called for an end to the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people and also called out US foreign policy that's helping to block a political solution without ethnic supremacy And yeah, I mean we're so far from the US not doing that the US is blocking this movie from like right getting distribution Yeah, we don't like the harsh reality of our foreign policy. No, because I think that's what they said It's like and the foreign policy of this country is actually preventing it. It was interesting to see like some people stood up when they won, other people seemed firmly planted in their seats. But hey, it is what it is, because we don't want to bring too much sunlight onto a situation like that. But I think most people clearly understand how powerful the message and how important the story is because it won.

Yeah I will say another place that people are probably saying it is what it is this morning is Hulu because they were streaming the Oscars for the first time and they missed the open Wicked performance by Cynthia Rivo and Ariana Grande. Really? Also missed Conan's monologue. Wait, like it just wasn't part of the stream? Like they were just greeted with?

It's like, I feel like it was like being handled by like a 50-something guy. It was like, oh shit, I didn't even realize the Oscars were on. They also like cut out during the best actress category, informing viewers that the show was over. And then someone had to be like, yo, you die. Like you, you have to like add extra time. You can't just like have it cut off at the time they say that's pretty standard for anyone who's ever used a DVR. Right. And then it happened again during the best picture Like all right right now. It's got to be over, right?

So I don't know for this and many other reasons I have a hard time believing that 1 billion people watched the show which was mentioned multiple times That mm-hmm a billion people around the world were watching it But a billion people around the world were watching it. US ratings have been around like 16 million people in the past couple of years. I think they got as low as 11 during the pandemic. But seems like that, you know, 11 to 16 in the US, that's like, that's your base right there. Like that's who would be watching this.

Right. I don't know that you're going to, um, yeah, yeah. Brian pointed out that a billion people would be everyone in America and Europe, just every single person on both. We can only get, we can only add 300 million to that pot. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's exactly what, uh, let's see. Like what? The world cup probably didn't even get close to whatever. I mean, clearly that's like one of those oniony type jokes where people are like, I think so.

And then you think of it like, no fucking way. A billion people watch this. Right. Not only muster like they said 16. So that's up from previous years. We don't. Last year was 16. But last year also had Oppenheimer and Barbie, like the two biggest movies of the past couple years, Vying, and like a musical number by Ryan Gosling and stuff like that.

So I think it was probably this one. If I had to guess, this one will be slightly down. But yeah, whatever. I mean, it's interesting to see the charts charts of like just the dwindling interest in the I'm just curious if someone can map like wage stagnation and inequality with waning interest and stuff where wealthy people Do backs laver times? Yeah, yeah giggle fests. Yeah, just think I think there might be something there Hmm, it was easy trick yourself and to be like and I might one day be in that class of people or some shit.

Like it's about aspirational. We're like, I feel like now you're just like, nah, fuck all this shit. Yeah. All right. Well, those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday morning. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.

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