The Daily Zeitgeist - Zeit Trends Can't Jump 3/3: Endemic, Poeltl, Tom Hanks, Trash Food, Kytch, Jack Harlow

Episode Date: March 4, 2022

In this edition of Zeit Trends Can't Jump, Jack and Miles discuss the endemic phase of COVID, the new NBA player guessing game 'Poeltl', Tom Hanks appearing on 'Dead Eyes', trash foods they used to eat as children, Kytch suing McDonalds for $900 million, and the incipient remake of 'White Men Can't Jump' starring Jack Harlow! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just

starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.

Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because

of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Zeit Trends Can't Jump. That was courtesy of Brian and the Zeitgeist today, because that movie is being discussed. And that's what we call in the business a tease.

Now you're not going to be able to not listen all the way to the end to find out why is White Men Can't Jump trending. Guess what? It's bad news. Not going to be able to not listen all the way to the end to find out why is white men can't jump. Trending. Guess what? It's bad news. Yeah, kind of. Anyways, I'm Jack. That is Miles Gray.

Yep. And here are some things that are trending. ending it's endemic times according to the zeitgeist according to you know just the general general vibes america's given off and i get the exhaustion based on my policy of believing what people tell me about themselves i believe that we might not be able to withstand more like harsh lockdowns because people seem very tired of this shit um i'm just saying that every time i look at them every time i hear the endemic shit i go and check the numbers and we're like right in the middle we're right in the middle of like where we've been throughout the history of this like deaths definitely like right in the middle cases we just got over a big

massive peak yeah and that that's in the u.s and worldwide uh deaths are probably a little bit above the middle uh since the start of the pandemic and cases are still coming down from a peak but they're coming down so that's the thing they're coming down right okay but and it's coming down from a just massive massive high so yeah i don't know man it's like i i think there's a narrative that i heard right when omicron hit where people were like this is this is the thing that ends it it's a less deadly version it you know will expose everyone to the disease and then we're through because like not everyone's gonna die everyone's gonna get it but not everyone's gonna die look not everyone's gonna die okay people are still dying a lot and also there's no evidence that there's not another

strain coming for our asses so i don't know it's just it it well it also like you said it feels like this it's like just a massive campaign to get people to feel like they're we're out of the woods or somehow that it's okay now what we're like how everything's like yeah take your masks off just fucking throw them away don't need them everything's fine don't look at the numbers exactly and analyze them or compare them like you just did but it feels like this huge push from like many different sides to kind of like put it in the air that we're done yeah with whatever this is the worst way to put it in the air in my opinion yeah um yeah it just and i don't i don't necessarily

think it's a top-down thing where it's like corporations are saying that like i think everybody wants to believe it and america more than other countries tends to be a place where we will manifest our own reality through just sheer tyranny of will and feel like we're kind of seeing that combined with the what's good for business is good for america type thing um so yeah but like you said it's a combination of the people like the energy levels already like we're fucking done please which yeah yeah we get it we've been life has been altered like irreversibly for years now um but the other side of it it's like we're getting encouragement from the media and like politicians to be like,

yeah. Right. Shit's over. Right. Yeah. Right. Pretty, pretty much.

It's like, feels like that friend that's like trying to encourage us to do something bad. We're like, yeah, we're just, yeah, we're kind of into it,

but we don't need encouragement. What we need is also some other way to look at this, give people perspective or just support people. So they're not associating, you know, locking down with, oh, my my money's gone i have no recourse right right well that's what got us in trouble in the first place miles because then you got labor movements you got people oh my gosh um what's next well i'll tell you what's next they just raise prices and then uh have massive profits and it's called inflation so it's our fault um all right so

that's just a little check-in on the covet front that's fun now actually fun so as you know i've been a bit of a wordle fan yeah past uh these past weeks and there have also been like wordle clone games people were sharing uh one that had like uh profanities oh there i said it oh wow i like that you know like uh potty wordle i think is one way of calling it no i have no idea what it's called um quartal q u like quads not quattro quattro uh like quads not quattro quattro uh is a game where you get to play four words at once that almost broke me because it was uh it came with unlimited practice games so you just play as much you wanted but i'm done i'm off quartal'm just happy to do a game a day back to Wordle. And then they pull me back in with Purtle.

Okay. Now, it's not spelled like it sounds. It's P-O-E-L-T-L. It is the name of the 7'1 Spurs center that John Morant just, you know, murdered. Nearly decapitated. Yeah, just dunked over in a game a couple of nights ago. And this game is a game where you like put in the name of an NBA player. Has nothing to do with spelling.

Don't worry. So my starter was Joel Embiid. Not surprisingly. Okay. And then it tells you like a bunch of fat like height his jersey number uh age uh team conference and it tells you like where the overlap is between your person so it's basically it's wordle in the sense that it's starting with a random guess and then like getting clues that get you closer and closer to the answer. Um, and it's a lot of fun.

I, I had not thought to take this outside of the world of spelling. And this is, this is great. Like this makes me think there's, there's a whole future of these sorts of this model of brains where you do random guests working towards a set mystery answer. Right. Like this immediately

made me want a movie version of this. Oh, man. What's that? For a second when you said Purtle, I thought it was like Neil Pert from Rush. Oh, interesting. It's like a Rush-based word game, but no. Yeah, there is

one that's just based on Neil Purt uh that's spelled just like his last name uh yeah tell tell me all the other ones i guess i'll try i mean i like word games you know i love playing words with friends so i like i like the odd word game so i feel like i will get into wordle but then that feels like a slippery slope and wordle is easy because it's like two minutes. It doesn't take much of your time up. It's just a single word game. No, but I feel like then I'm going to start obsessing. I got to fucking really start nailing these.

No, you just Google the answer and then you put it in. I told you. You just cheat and then it's easy. All right. I'll come back with a report after the weekend. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'll come back with a report after the weekend.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Wordle, Purtle, and Quirtle. If you're, if you're really, if you're stuck on a flight and can't get sucked into a movie because you're taking care of two under five-year-olds,

Quirtle is a good way to pass. Okay. I'm not speaking from personal experience. No, no, no, no. Tom Hanks is trending.

Have you ever listened to Dead Eyes? No, no. The tom hanks is trending uh have you ever listened to the dead eyes uh no no podcast so there's a podcast by a comedian who i think knows some of the same people we know and whose name i should have written down here so i could act so i could not be insulting and just uh take it out of it's connor ratliff it's connor ratliff super producer anna hosnia has informed us uh and so he is a comedian actor and got cast to be on i think it was band of brothers which was a show that tom hanks right ep'd and he got cast was like part of the cast getting ready you know and then was abruptly fired and he was told the reason was because tom hanks uh thought he had dead eyes so he has been publishing a podcast okay yes i've heard this okay this okay yeah yeah so he's been publishing a podcast where he kind of interrogates that um moment from his life and trying to figure out what went wrong whether

he has dead eyes which is such a such a hard thing to hear about yourself presumably uh especially if you're an actor hearing it from uh, our foremost actor and also somebody who at least takes up, you know, I'd say a portion of people's paternal feelings. Right. If you were raised on their mood on Tom Hanks's movies. Anyways, big news.

Tom Hanks will be coming on his show to talk to him, to hash it out. That's good. Yeah. So check out Dead Eyes and then get ready for him to really nail Tom Hanks's ass to the wall. You know, that's like what exactly what you want in a podcast is there's like an ending. Not to say that it's all about this, but like most podcasts that start off really interesting, you don't get that like juicy conclusion. It reminds me of Mystery Show

when they try and find out how tall Jake Gyllenhaal was. Yeah. And then there's actual encounters with Jake Gyllenhaal. With this, I like when people get to confront the, I don't know, the main figure at their whole life story. That was such a great podcast episode. And yet my one issue, so for anybody who don't know, the main figure at their whole life story. That was such a great podcast episode. And yet my one issue. So for anybody who don't know, there's Starley Kine, journalist and, you know,

This American Life contributor had a show on one of those like kind of boutique networks. Gimlet, I think it was. And I think they only did like a handful of episodes but one of them was she was trying to figure out how tall jake gyllenhaal was went like and just took you on the journey as she tried to figure that out like it was a murder mystery eventually gets to meet jake gyllenhaal and he reveals how tall he is to her is it like six foot yeah but he's like trying to say something i think it was like 5 11 and a half or something right and i was like i don't believe you bro wow i don't believe you and i yeah i just want to take him to yeah you're like stand next to this 7 11 door

real quick right let me just see yep okay leave yep it's under the six it's under the six yeah i i feel like that is one of the hardest things to be like getting a soft drink company to be like all right this shit's really bad for you like an actor having an actor be come clean about right being shorter than they appear on on i wear lifts okay okay? Every shoe, there's lifts. It's fucking pathetic. Anyways, shout out to Jake Gyllenhaal in a Michael Bay movie that looks wild. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews

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everyone is welcome here on MTV's official challenge podcast. So join us every week as we break down episodes of the Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras. Listen to MTV's official challenge podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back there was a twitter thread uh earlier today where somebody put out the question what is one food you ate as a kid and won't eat as an adult people are coming through with answers like hamburger helper i think hamburger helper was the thing that was trending because people felt a certain way about that answer. I think there were multiple people giving that answer.

Some people put French bread pizza, Kraft mac and cheese. Just a lot of foods that are bad for you. And this made me realize that I have not phased anything out of my diet for being bad for me. Yeah. I really eat everything. I ate tuna helper the other day. Yeah. I like it.

I've eaten entire pots of Kraft mac and cheese. Oh, yeah. That's not. To the dome. I've never. Who Kraft mac and cheese shames? I think a lot of people. I mean, I think people who, like, there's a. I think a lot of people, I mean,

I think people who like, there's a part of my brain that's like, yeah, no, you should definitely not eat that shit. Like the, the one thing that like nutritionists have been telling us from like for the past,

at least since, you know, the last 15 years is that the food that comes in a box that is made by massive corporations right has gone through the lens of food scientists who are uh using like some of the smart smartest like thinking in the modern human race to make their food more addictive like you shouldn't eat that shit yeah um and guess what i still do because their whole thing is like they're inventing crack but of like cheese where they're like how do you

take cheese but step on it so many times that you can get like 300 000 times more portions out of it and it's addictive i mean we all win here and i think it's good i still eat that shit i don't eat it off often but when i the mood strikes i yeah i go with it no good. I still eat that shit. I don't eat it off often, but when I, the mood strikes, I, I go with it. No, I just have not fought that battle to weed those things out of my diet. Okay.

There are things like, I just don't buy it anymore. Like I don't eat SpaghettiOs. Yeah. You know, I wish I could say I don't eat SpaghettiOs. I haven't in a while, but I have,

I haven't in a while. It's been haven't in a while it's been a while uh it's been a while okay but i definitely had a thought like once while food shot because i do a lot of the food shopping and i am weak-willed and i get i get won over by that shit like the spaghettios i just remembered like being at my friend's house in Wheeling, West Virginia, watching Dukes of Hazzard, and his mom served us SpaghettiOs, and I was like, that shit is going in the cart, and I'm gonna... Yeah. I have good memories of it, too. Like, I would put so much of that green bottle Parmesan cheese, let's not call it Parmesan,

but, you know, that big old green tub of shit. Yeah. And, you know, with tabasco and i was like that was the fucking life oh yeah that again but the salt man anyway the only answer i could come up with is skin milk i think that is forever out of my diet because it was i never drank an inferior milk but that was all my family would would drink when i was growing up and that's one where i was just like the second i had non-skim milk i was like oh okay yeah you got it we were doing it wrong like that i think yeah which is funny because

the thing i will i will probably no longer do is just drink those little mini containers of half and half right those little tiny yeah yeah to the dome just for some flavor you know yeah you get to like danny's or some shit you're like you, you know what? Let me just pop off. My mom would yell at me. That's so gross. Yeah. Room temp half and half. Oh, but it was so fatty.

Did you really drink those? Yeah, yo. That was a problem. Did you pour sugar in there? Fuck no. I was just, I'm fucking weird. My mom was like, what are you doing? And she would get mad because I did it once.

I remember the time I did it and it wasn't my family at the table it was like her friends and she was like don't like she was acting like i was like tying off to do like heroin or some shit in front of them uh but yeah i learned my lesson and i learned to drink my barbie milk in peace that's what you call the little milks you call them barbie milks that's cute my friend's sister did and i was like yeah it's catchy actually thanks justine this is a this is a fascinating relationship between you and uh half and barbie milk yeah single and you're out here drinking skim milk see i was on the other side of that skim milk is blue it's basically like milky water but it has a lot of sugar in it which is like the thing there's sugar in it oh yeah like yeah yeah skim milk's not i mean yeah when i've had it like since then i'm like oh this is just

like sweet water it tastes like oh god it's not good okay i don't know i don't think they like dump sugar into it i think it just yeah naturally occurring yeah right We do have an update on a past story. If you, if you were listening back when we talked about McDonald's ice cream machines, yes. Frequently broken. There is a company that came through with a little phone sized software insert that you plugged in to the McDonald's ice cream machine,

uh, allowed people to operate the machine via their smartphones and service it. That was the big thing. Yeah. When they would shut down, that was the whole reason when it's like, why is the, why are the machines always down?

It's like, because this one fucking company had this patent on, and they were the only people that could fix it. And you, you could do is buy this like hack box that would bypass that shit. So you can just service your own fucking machine. Right. Wasn't that the deal yeah it was a great uh sort of lesson in like the way that capitalism actually works like you you know they said like oh the market economy is gonna like make it so

like the best product wins and like this is the best way to distribute things what actually happened is this company got the contract to make all the machines, got a line in there. And the, uh, contract that was like, and we're the only ones who are allowed to service it, then sold shitty machines to them so that they then required a bunch of servicing.

And the company that sold them, the machines actually ended up making more money on the servicing than they did on the machines in the first place. That's how they got you. Uh, meanwhile, like people had to like create an app to keep up with which McDonald's, the one McDonald's that had a functioning ice cream machine

in all of Los Angeles, because they were so bad. So this company saw an opportunity, popped in there, solved it. McDonald's then made it illegal for their franchisees to use this software. So now this company, Kitch, K-Y-T-C-H, is suing McDonald's. Yeah, great.

For $900 million. Great. Yeah, hell yeah. I don't know, it'll be interesting. I'd love to see McDonald's have to pay these people a lot of money and i'm sure mcdonald's like how did we fuck up and hire that company to do the machines like we're all in this i'm sure on some level too they're like uh it's better because

weren't they sending spies and shit in the height of like all these like lawsuits popping up or like mcdonald's people were like posing as like franchise owners and like misrepresenting themselves to kitsch people it's like this whole thing i remember being that sounds like the sort of shit that a massive corporation would pull but yeah hello my name is daryl donald's you're clearly ronald mcdonald man like you didn't even take the makeup off oh you're ronald mcdonald all right grimace get the fuck out of here man why is that guy crying in the bathroom the ronald mcdonald makeup i don't know man he forget it got a lot of tables jack harlow all right so this uh finally the payoff Oh, we're out of time.

You have to come back tomorrow to learn why White Man Can't Jump is trending. No, it's trending because they're doing a remake of the movie. I don't know. Is it going to be a series or a movie? I don't know. No, it's a movie? Yeah. Okay.

Kenya Barris, Doug Hall writing the script. You're a huge Hall head, right? Oh, yeah. They call me one of the kids in the Hall. Yeah. I know who Kanga Barris is. I don't know who Doug Hall is, but they're remaking it, a movie that probably didn't need to be remade.

We don't need to remake anything, to be honest. The fact that the original one is like so watchable or was when i was 12 is a testament like it's it's kind of a miracle because wesley snipes not a basketball player the basketball action still works because while not a basketball player is just amazing athletically on film he just knows how to look awesome on film and woody harrelson uh you know both just like carrying the fucking movie up a hill on their backs via their sheer charisma anyways a long rambling way of saying they have cast first-time actor jack harlow yeah to play the woody harrelson character jack harlow rapper i don't know if he can play basketball woody harrelson could play basketball

i think he played just don't i hate the remakes and then also jack like is jack harlow does he have the woody harrelson charisma because woody Woody Harrelson, he's not some fucking slouch. He can bring it. Can Jack Harlow? Or is it more just like, this kid's popping all the buzzy charts for the social medias. We got to get him in a movie and quick. I don't know.

If he's good, then great. But honestly, at the end of the day, I'm not like, I was never asking for a remake of White Men Can't Jump because the original is fine. Yeah. All right. That is going to do it for us on this Thursday.

We're back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. We will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye. Bye.

I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.

And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil.

I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball.

And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.